I was under the impression the dwarves on snow white were the mystical humanoid creatures that are able to prospect and mine already polished diamonds in a raw diamond mine, not humans suffering from dwarfism.
Growing up, I never made the connection that the dwarves in snow white was a representation of people with dwarfism. I just assumed it was an implementation of a fictional race of people, like the dwarves from world of warcraft, or other fantasy race dwarves. Like garden gnomes, elves, and fairy's.
Derick Mitchell as the little people said Peter Dinkleage does not speak for all of them look at the munckins in Wizard of Oz those actors did not get offended!
Dwarfs and other creatures who ended up in fairytales, often started out in serious reports from people of all cultures and races seeing them. Just like giants, mermaids and other things. Its just that movies shaped our image of these things in such a goofy way, that we think about what we saw on screen and go naaaaah, thats to weird and childish. Its not total fantasy always...if you dig into this, you find many interesting things that werent made up for kids at all. And its not a coinscedence that you can find depictions and descriptions of these things in so many differetn cultures, that didnt even mingle with each other at the time, and it was written down in chronicles too.
Peter Dinklage actually got a quite a bit blow back from the small people community for those comments. They equated it, to him trying to pull the ladder up after he got his. One of my favorite comments was “Peter Dinklage is not king of the dwarves and does not speak for us.”
From what I've heard, the dwarfism community heard Peter Dinklage's thoughts on Snow White and told him to shut up. There were a lot of articles talking about the outrage over how he'd cost them what could have been career-making roles.
@@NotMyRealName6 A lot of people do think he just didn't want any other little people getting famous and threatening Dinklage's spot as Hollywood's go to actor for a role that needs a little person.
The older I got, the more I realized Walt Disney was a person. He was genuine yes in his vision of a better world, but he had his dark sides to like everyone else. It's in a lot of these cartoons, especially in those early years, that are often banned or have changes implemented. But what redeems him is his integrity. He kept his private thoughts private and showed respect even towards people he privately did not like being around for whatever his personal reason is. He wasn't saintly, but he did his darnest to be the better person because he wasn't blind to suffering. Walt Disney was not perfect, but he was a person.
Yes a popular artist/ Animation Legend, Can obviously become Egoistic; I believe I went To school w/Disney Grand-son it's too Long of a story, (or I have little info) any Way to my point that Disney relative was Civil towards myself And he gathered "popularity " well Also good looking Family (curly blond And tall and thin well Dressed) enough said.
I never took for granted Walt Disney as a symbol of patriotism; even without figuring out what lesser qualities he had, I knew he was still a person with a big set of expectations placed on him and inevitably was going to face some moral struggles in his time, but the issues were never the status quo for Walt; at his core he desired to impress audiences with a wonderful new technology and entertainment experience and a good team behind it, and he certainly achieved that. Regards, Samuel Farris.
Here is how I look at him while he wasn’t perfect he did what he did out of a genuine passion he even said himself that he didn’t make cartoons and movies for money but for enjoyment which is why I personally believe he would be ASHAMED at what his company has become these days.
The only perfect person is jesus Yet despised and rejected How can us mere mortals Be something we are not Altho in the theatre and movies Actors try to play a larger than life Image!
It should be stated that the dwarves in Snow White did not live in a cave but in a house, and were very wealthy because they had mined all of those gemstones. It was also the dwarves that ended the witch. They were never portrayed in a negative light.
4:17 I have no doubt that this habit caused not only vocal cord issues but problems with his esophagus in general. I find it odd that in all of his years, no one told him he was consuming his cigarettes wrong. Not a single person mentioned cigarettes are meant to be smoked, not chugged. That many years spent chugging dry, shredded tobacco along with the paper and filter. Have you ever tried to eat multiple crackers without taking a drink? Same principle just with a harmful substance. I'm surprised he could speak at all.
The biggest problem with modern critics is that they fail to take into context the times a person lived in. It's so easy to be so morally superior when you weren't raised or grew up during a said era. My personal take is that Walt was an idealist and saw some of the good of some philosophies but personally didn't adapt what he thought was bad in them. Which is why Jews, black people etc. Who knew him defended him. He was searching for an ideal, an ideal he put into words when he was describing his future world. Also, dwarves are a mythological race, in real life terms the only practical way to represent them is to cast short people. That also gives rare job opportunities for them who aren't Peter Dinklage. Something that was voiced by these actors. It's easy to virtue signal when you're already in a position of privilege, another thing when you don't live in that bubble and have to deal with everyday reality.
(Idealisation) is always the problem, and that can be deduced without having to apply modern morality to past events with hindsight at our sides to attack his choices in who he idealised.
@@LlibertarianGalt In what way, shape or form is idealism always the problem? Idealism is the first step towards an aspirational goal. What facts or points contribute to your deduction that makes being an idealist the perennial problem?
In 1971, at the end of a working day I went to the Disney offices in The Strand, London, to meet an employee to go to the theatre that evening. Peter went to use the restroom before we left and he was to lock up on the way out. As I waited, I answered an "out of working hours" telephone call. It was an executive of Disney in California, calling with the news that Roy Disney had died. The US executive had presumed that I too was an employee but I was not, I was a record company exec. For me, as for many of my age, the very last Disney film was "Fantasia" I love it to bits!
Thankyou! How I wish that I hadn't given up writing a daily diary during the heady years: the memory still serves well but I guess that much detail was lost in the next joint! That was life and so busy with the excitement of the day to give the time to the page a day books that I keep and have done religiously for the past four decades.@@jmen4ever257
If someone played both sides like that today, they would be scolded for not taking a firm stance against the evil. So your point is what? It's okay because he is him?
3:46 Shame Oswald hasn't been depicted in more Disney products as part of Mickey's group of friends after recovering the rights of the characters in order to use him in Epic Mickey. It's like they completely forgot about him after the second game flopped
I think that was because Oswald got taken from Disney by the company he worked with at the time. Something involving copyrights I believe. That used set him so much that he made sure a situation like this would never happen again. I also believe it’s this whole mess that inspired him to create Mickey. As a sort of replacement for Oswald. But feel free to look this up yourself.
@@johnprudent3216 pretty much what happened. Oswald and the majority of Disney animation studio at the time was taken from him by Charles Mintz and Universal. It’s what set off Disney to protect his characters, and be very wary of all the big studios.
Missed were two life-altering events--Walt Disney was in the Chicago post office as a substitute mail carrier when someone bombed the building, and Walt caught the Spanish Flu just after joining the Red Cross and recovered at home (hospitals were places that people went to die). Later, Walt Disney had a nervous breakdown brought on by overwork. Then his mother died--Walt had gifted his parents with a new home and even sent a studio repairman to fix a gas leak, but his mother died as a result of gas and his father almost died as well. Walt experienced tragedy and nearly died multiple times before finally expiring on 15 December 1966.
@@niasharamos1718 He didn’t die because he got frozen, he died from lung cancer. The frozen thing is just a myth, it hasn’t been proven if it’s real or not
I appreciate the nuance that this video provides! I feel very frustrated when people criticize historical figures according to today's social standards. It's too easy to look back on a well-known person's life and say he should have done this and he should have done that. Peter Dinklage, Meryl Streep and whoever else have not been elected moral judges of the universe. They weren't raised in the same world as Walt Disney and weren't in his shoes. You can't retroactively apply our culture today to the past and be critical when it doesn't line up. Judge yourself and your own actions, and your life will be much better off.
Well said hindsight is the best 20/20 you cannot apply modern morals to people 50+ years ago. You look at most people with a moral test 90℅ will fail especially if they have wealth and power.
Mining is one of the most physically demanding jobs in the world, so showing dwarves mining and actually being _good_ at mining can only be a good thing.
By trying to distance themselves from him and being a true neutral, they end up making him look like a paragon of virtue when compared to Disney Inc now.
It's funny how Dinkledge talks bad about movies portraying little people in that way but he had no problem taking paydays for acting in those movies. According to many little people actors it's hard finding roles as it is and now with Dinkledge's comments, all those actors won't be able to find work.
Peter Dinkledge also made a point to not take roles to perpetuated negative stereotypes about little people. He never once took a role as an elf or one of the seven dwarves even while he was a broke actor surviving off of ramen.
It's interesting on how Dinkledge refused to play a mythical creature known as a dwarf in Snow White, but he had NO problem playing one in the MCU, on Game of Thrones or in the last Cyrano movie when the lead character was now a dwarf instead of having a huge nose.
@@PoetPariahMusic Yes but its based on dwarves from the Norse lore. They just made him big in the movie so he would take the role or wont get offended.
I've seen song of the south in it's entirety, it's bad but it shouldn't be hidden, it needs to be shown so people understand that mistakes happen and we can progress from them
I still have a lot of respect for Walt and love going to Disney World…he isn’t perfect but who is? What is still chilling to me is one cast member recalled that Walt never said goodbye but the day before he went into the hospital Walt said goodbye to him
Is he perfect? Siding with Trash that murdered millions isn’t falling short of perfect. The guy is disgusting beyond any reasonable measure. Respect what? He was a traitor.
‘He isnt perfect but who is?’ He was a bad guy? Wdym not perfect. Its pretty easy to not be sexist, racially insensitive, anti this or that. Anti labor unions?
You do know he was a 33rd degree freemason, right? And you do know what that entails, right? Maybe do some research...not the greatest guy in the world & not the happiest place on earth.
I've studied this man for the last 45 years and if he participated in anything questionable I feel he probably really thought he wasn't doing anything wrong. Maybe he was naive. He certainly made so many quality films while he was alive and they were very family friendly. He had some christian values and his daughter Diane said he very much believed in God. When he opened disneyland he had a protestant, catholic and Jewish minister at the opening. So think what you want, only he and God truly know.
How have you been studying him for 45 years? Have you met his family, friends and colleagues? Read historical documents? Etc. Are you writing a book? "I've studied [him] for 45 years" is a very odd statement...
Wasn't a villain? You do know he was a 33 degree freemason, right? And you know what that entails? Maybe do some research...not the guy you think he was!
@@ShannaM1 @ShannaM420 1. No, Walt Disney was not a 33 degree Freemason, as far as I can tell. There is no official record of him joining a Masonic Lodge or receiving any Masonic degrees The claim that he was a 33 degree Freemason seems to be based on a misunderstanding of his involvement with DeMolay International, a Masonic-sponsored youth organization that he joined when he was 19 2. These are some common reasons for conspiracy theorists to label him as such: - His creation of Club 33 at Disneyland, an exclusive private club for VIPs, which some people think is a reference to the 33rd degree of Freemasonry. However, there is no evidence to support this theory, and it is more likely that the name Club 33 comes from the address of the club at 33 Royal Street in New Orleans Square, or from the number of corporate sponsors of Disneyland at the time of the club’s construction23. - His use of Masonic symbols in some of his films, such as the square, compass, and all-seeing eye in early drafts of Fantasia. However, these symbols are not exclusive to Freemasonry and can have different meanings in different contexts. There is no proof that Walt Disney intended to convey any Masonic messages through his work24. These pieces of evidence are not enough to prove that Walt Disney was a 33 degree Freemason, as they are based on assumptions, speculations, or coincidences. They can be disproved by looking at the official records of Freemasonry and DeMolay International, as well as the historical and artistic sources of Walt Disney’s creations. There's some research for you sir. If you do have any other evidence of Walt Disney being a Freemason, I would love to hear it so I can look into it myself. I would like to have a logical discussion with you about this rather than you just insinuating I have not done any research, when in fact I have very much done so, when you just throw claims that I assume you heard on a RUclips video once and believed it completely without looking into it yourself at all. You didn't give any evidence for your claim an any capacity, how can you say I don't do research when you throw claims with no backing. I am actually a long time business researcher and love to look into the lives of many successful entrepreneurs such as Ray Kroc, Rockefeller, Steve Jobs, and, yes, Walt Disney. I have watched numerous documentaries and read many books about the man and am actually quite knowledgeable about him and his life, please don't just assume you know more about someone just because you watched a Top 10 video once. Sources: Was Walt Disney a Freemason? | Scottish Rite, NMJ Was Walt Disney a Freemason? - Skeptics Stack Exchange Was Walt Disney A Freemason? Exploring The Rumors Peek Inside Walt Disney’s Secretive Club 33 - Ripley’s Believe It or Not! Debunking Myths About Walt Disney - MousePlanet
Fantasia and Snow White were some childhood favorites also Bambi and Pinocchio. I actually feel fortunate to have been able to have grown up with those movies. It's too bad the companies getting run into the ground by corruption and greed.
I’m grandmother would disagree but I do agree I did not watch those movies when they came out but I do like them and it is a shame that it’s going down to the ground
In certain parts of Europe "Mickey Mouse" magazines are being published/sold with his comics and as a long time fan 'of em (stopped buying/ reading 'em upon starting middle school and getting my hands on my first smarphone) I can 100% say Mortimer was Mickey's upper-class rival, oftentimes trying to court Minnie. 🙃 Another fun fact is in the comics, Mickey was portrayed as a part-time police officer and an adventurer, one comic even depicting 'im trying to prevent an apocalypse in Mexico. (hope the last piece of info wasn't too much 🤐)
@@korribreki For some reason, Europeans loved Mickey comics, Goofy comics, Donald comics, Scrooge comics etc. But brands like Marvel or DC never got a foothold. I got a Norwegian Superman number 1 in my closet. But that's pretty much it. They only released a few comics in th EU market before giving up. One of the only comics still alive here in the modern era is Donald Duck. All other comic brands died out in the 2000's
@@SilentForrest Nah, I've lived in England, Sweden and Iceland and they all love DC comics (Marvel is also popular but not close) Belgium and Germany are both full of comic book stores too.
Let's just say that it was a different time, a different mentality and that it didn't age well at all. There are plenty of movies and cartoons from that period that fall into that category. My dad worked at the local library. He would show the full length and newly released Disney movies in our back yard on the weekends. Just like it was shown in the theaters. It goes without saying that it became popular with the local parents.
@@cartier-8548 They should be a reminder of just how much our general attitudes have changed for the better over the yrs. It is part of the history of film and animation. And should be seen in that context.
06:36. Considering how Communists and Socialists treat Conservatives in the USA today, that seems like a pretty peculiar take on your part? There's no "fair society" about it - the Communists ACTIVELY placed agents in American society (amongst many other countries in the world) to undermine and subvert it via the Communist and Socialist parties set up in foreign nations to bypass those countries' sovereignty and autonomy, or flat out hijack foreign nations from their elected representatives (a strategy that was later adopted by capitalistic countries and implemented via some international companies as its own version of the strategy). Is that "Progressive"? If you want to "inform" people about the "Red Scare", at least be fair in your coverage of it. (Both the civil rights movement AND the labor unions served as an entry point for the Communist and Socialist regimes to gain a foothold in non-Communist and non-Socialist countries via its disenfranchised, who then went on to install murderous regimes of their own in several minor countries). They didn't serve in those movements because it was the "right thing to do", they serve in it to gain power of a future government by embedded proximity to power and influence. Also, even Communists and Socialists have their own version of it to persecute their ideological and political rivals. I live in a Communist country, and I've seen FIRST HAND what their handiwork looks like. 07:03. Countries across the world has a "bad track record of racism" (so singling out America seems like a weird thing to do), both by some with their population and some of THOSE that come to live there. Even against subcultures in their own populations. 07:52. So did several current day politicians and "progressive movement leaders" of today. Are you going to be making videos of THOSE people as well, and criticizing them equally as hard? 08:22. The same can be said of today, and how some "Progressives" love to court Communists and Socialists who openly state bigoted views (and are celebrated for it). But I guess that's not going to be acknowledged. 09:16. That's because "socialism" was seen as a "good philosophy" back then (prior to discovering the horrors inflicted under it By Germany and Russia, to name a few)? You yourself said at the start of your video that Communists and Socialists were seen as the Progressives of their day. It's LITERALLY in the name of the political party and such policies formed the key objectives of their party. 10:46. "The [insert the accepted bad people of the week] are the reasons for the problems in the world." Sounds like the standard message on TV these days. Also, 11:54, not hearing a lot of criticisms against them STILL following that methodology in current day against other groups (if anything, it's ACTIVELY celebrated)? So why is it right for some and wrong for others - there's no consistency in that position (genuine question)? 12:58. Would that also include not "idealizing" the horrors of Communism and Socialism, and its various current-day versions? 13:32. And yet, I hear NO pushback against OPEN sexism against men current day? That is SEXISM TOO, but I guess that doesn't count (for some unknown reason). 14:09. How EXACTLY do you compare a vision for a futuristic society with a methodology of continual improvement with a closed society that wanted to remain constantly the same? There's no consistency in that position? O.o 14:24. True. But here's the more interesting question - why is the "Far Left" exactly like the "Far Right"? Perhaps because the "Far Right ideology" is ACTUALLY LEFT OVERS from "Far Left ideologies from the past", but since most people are ignorant of history, they don't ACTUALLY know that?
A point needed tho, is that Dinkledge was called out by WWE's Hornswaggle for causing the loss of seven acting roles for an already marginalized group.
Those comments were Peter Dinklage knowing he's still only the second most famous little person actor and trying anything he thinks will bump him to #1. You will never be Warwick Davis, sorry about it.
Great summary in under 16 minutes, but when Walt dropped out of 8th Grade, was that grammar school in Chicago or was that high school? Education is forever changing. Walt created a school that's now called CalArts--he was ashamed of dropping out of school and did his best to promote education.
he created Mickey Mouse and his gangs and this was and still brilliants but he didn't create our childhood classic like Snowwhite, Cinderella, Pinocchio, Treasure Island, Peter Pan and so on he based them on the originala nd he based them very beautifully we didn't know of them until he based them and make them our classic but let us give a little credit to the original writes without them they're will be no (favorite, iconic childhood classics)
1. Batman vs. A neighborhood of Bloods and Crips 2. Phoenix Jones the real life super hero in Seattle Washington 3. The open water movie about the couple and the sharks 4. Hernan Cortez and the Aztecs 5. Btk killer in Wichita Kansas 6. Golden Age Italian-American mafia vs. Today’s Italian-American mafia 7. How a bank robber could use 20 year old money that he dug up after his prison sentence 8. The rise of rockstar games with Sam and Dan Houser 9. The rise of Walt Disney ✅ 10. How prisoners get away with using cellphones in prison and how they get away with posting on Facebook 11. How much do actors make from each film? How do actors make their money when they aren’t acting or filming? Is their acting checks enough to survive and live in luxury?
By the 80s and 90s, Disney was more of a children’s company. When I watched any of those movies, I never thought anything negative ever. And in business, money talks. They’re going to go to war and what makes the money. It has nothing to do with their creator. All he’s doing is trying to make money. You can’t be mad at him for entertaining the base audience, to make money. It’s called the business and people are reading way too much, into some thing that happened decades and decades ago.
@@endtheccp4228 depends really on what is moral outrage vs practical practice. Morality in such matters really only hit when the actual thing is sustainable or the owners arbitrary personality kicks in. Walt isn't some great prophet but he certainly isn't the villain of entertainment he is painted to be. He's just financially successful, though his practice of taking credit is criticized today it's also done by those who criticized him in doing so.
Once again, thank you for making videos like this. Not only does it amazingly go into detail about Walt but it ends on a broad note which emphasizes everyone to be open minded and learn as we're supposed to.
As much as I love Disney's entertainment, I'm not blind to its history. Just goes to show why you should never put people on a pedestal, no one is 100% pure.
Dinklage is a liar. The Seven Dwarfs live in a house, and work in a mine. Plus, even Disney has been forced to go back to seven Dwarfs, not those "magical creatures" which look like they came out of a San Francisco homeless camp.
In 5th grade, we did a big long project about, you can choose anyone you can, dress up as them, draw a later board about their life and memorize their whole life story. I chose Walt Disney. I dressed up as Walt Disney, and memorized his whole life story.
Ironic. The "red scare", which this video villainizes, unjustly judged people by whom they associated. An yet this video judges Walt by whom he associated.
I do believe the erasure of the reality of slavery in SOTS is not a racist act of cowardice, but a deliberate tactic Walt used and the company still uses today to get rid of any dark or serious themes in their movies to make it more family friendly. Famously he got rid of all the darker material in the Jungle Book that the source material had. The company then significantly toned down any dark, sad and heavy themes in their films (though the Hunchback of Notre Dame, Pocahontas and The Lion King remained pretty dark in places)
All I got from this is that Walt was a shrewd businessman who did what he could to grow his business without necessarily crossing every t and dotting every i, not unlike most Americans back then and even now. It’s all about the almighty dollar. Walt was an expert at marketing, of that, there is no doubt. This video didn’t even talk about his dubious history of (discreetly) taking credit for animation techniques he didn’t invent.
I could imagine that Walt was just trying to put some specific atrocities in simple text for kids to understand, yet its not like he could be completely excused for some cartoons mentioned in this video
About Song of the South: It seemed to me that Uncle Remus was the only adult that was a decent role model for the protagonist. Sure it depicted slavery, but that was a reality in some situations. I do not think that they were happy to be enslaved, but it is what they knew, and they did their best to enjoy what parts of life they could. I don't get that it was degrading or misrepresenting enslaved Africans in the American South. If anything, it showed them as wise despite not having an opportunity for formal education, kind despite not being treated fairly, and resilient in the face of highly unfair situations. On the other hand, the white characters were shown to be shallow, foolish, violent, petty, selfish, and disrespectful. That being said, I am not of African descent, I have never lived in the American South, and my family did not ever practice slavery, so there may be nuances that I missed.
There's actually a movie about Walt's first years as an artist called "Walt Before Mickey", in which he was played by the same guy who played Kevin in American Pie
I saw "Songs of the South" in a theatre in 198X, and it truly made me think that racism was a horrible, terrible thing. I watched it as an adult last year; didn't make it 15 minutes into the film! It is so *utterly, HORRIBLY* racist in its every line! I had no conception of how truly bad it was. Wearing the rose coloured glasses of nostalgia, every red flag just looks like a flag.
It’s a great movie and if the battle flag offends you you definitely don’t understand the south. It’s a badge of freedom and liberty and independence. It was the north that was the aggressor and Lincoln the traitor.
@@surfingbrrrd you’re wrong on that point. It was the tariffs imposed on the south by the fed government to enrich the northern states. The south at the time had the most money and largest businesses.
Slavery was about to end on its own due to its high cost. Lincoln made slavery an issue when the south was winning the war and to gain support in the north. It was political move not a moral one. Most slaves actually stayed on the same farm and plantations they were already working. Lincoln hated the south and did everything he could to ruin them even though it was him and his government that caused the war.
I actually know most of this. Walt Disney followed Ayn Rand's Objectivist philosophy (Objectivism is a philosophical system developed by Russian-American writer Ayn Rand. Rand first expressed Objectivism in her fiction, most notably The Fountainhead (1943) and Atlas Shrugged (1957), and later in non-fiction essays and books.[1] Leonard Peikoff, a professional philosopher and Rand's designated intellectual heir,[2][3] later gave it a more formal structure. Rand described Objectivism as "the concept of man as a heroic being, with his own happiness as the moral purpose of his life, with productive achievement as his noblest activity, and reason as his only absolute".[4] Peikoff characterizes Objectivism as a "closed system" insofar as its "fundamental principles" were set out by Rand and are not subject to change. However, he stated that "new implications, applications and integrations can always be discovered".[5]) from Wikipedia. who was a Russian-Jewish woman who couldn't Soviet Communism even in her adolescent years unlike most Eurasian Jews who embraced Communism and were some of their leaders, hence the Jewish-Bolshevism canard.
People rarely consider social norms when they consider the lives of past heroes. People have not always felt the way we do about life, and stuff, and everything
Disney CEO Bob Iger crafted an agreement with NBCUniversal in 2006 that would bring Oswald back to Disney. Iger-knowing how important Oswald was to the Disney family and the company’s legacy-traded the contract of sportscaster Al Michaels to NBC for the rights to Oswald the Lucky Rabbit.
Just fyi, snow white was written by the brothers Grimm in the 19th century, well before Walt was alive. He merely adapted it since it was an existing story in the free market
It's ironic that people get upset at walt disney for making dark jokes. Since they also make jokes about Queen Elizabeth, 9/11, slavery, and the Holocaust
An interesting thing not mentioned here is that Disney's surname was derived from the Norman "D’Isigny", which means "Lords of Isigny" - a title bestowed by William the Conqueror to a couple of his loyal followers in 1066 or close to it.
There seems to be a lot of effort in this video to paint Disney as a good person, no matter his misdeeds. I draw cartoons too, but I wouldn't call myself a saint just because I bring a bit of joy to others.
I agree and I find it a little ridiculous that everyone he was around had some type of connection with the nazi's however he just managed to turn his head and never get involved ... yeah right....
@@paulross1768 Since I'm not a dumb teenager, I don't know what that means. Urban dicks says I either "crapped under a toilet seat" or was "crushed by 2 beastly women" I guess I'm over it?
I am sure this discussion will never pin down the real man. How much was just what he needed to do for his movies to be hits. And how much was his personal views coming out. Only he knew the answer to that question.
When accusing Walt Disney of racism because of his 1946 "Song of the South," the movie is clearly set in the post-Civil War era and the workers are obviously not slaves. Who paid slaves and allowed them to come and go freely? On the other hand, who complained about the 1956 "The Great Locomotive Chase" for its Civil War depiction of multiple slaves? Why wasn't that 1956 Fess Parker movie slammed? Could the motivation have been Walt's anti-communism? The next year, Walt Disney appeared before the HUAC. Walt was also cooperating in the official persecution of communists. Could that have been the real reason for boycott of "Song of the South?" Today's Disney company is again under fire for some of its many political activism antics. Had there been an obvious communist-inspired boycott of the Disney Company because of Walt Disney's political activism, perhaps today's Disney Company would have been less eager to climb on band wagons that careened over a cliff. Jumping into politics makes waves and makes enemies. There's circumstantial evidence that the 1946 boycott of "Song of the South" was politically motivated and had little to do with what was shown on the screen--but a lot to do with who was going to rule the nation. The lack of a 1956 boycott of "The Great Locomotive Chase" seems to support that. This fight might make for a great video presentation on Infographics.
They probably didn't mention a Fess Parker movie because this was an infographic on Walt Disney, not racist movies. A for effort though the what-aboutism is strong with this one.
@@KrakenIsland64 The Great Locomotive Chase was a Disney movie and television show. It was based on a book of the same name. Buster Keaton (not a Disney guy) served as inspiration for several Disney movies and Keaton's take on this was "The General." Walt Disney had a lot of input on The Great Locomotive Chase. I still can be guilty of bringing up trivia--the Great Locomotive Chase showing happy slaves in Civil War America may have become trivial by 1956 but showing happy Freedmen in post-Civil War America was beyond the pale in 1946. Or it could have been politics as usual.
Song of the South was post Civil War right or wrong on the portrayal it’s a kids movies and James Baskett who played Uncle Remus was the first African American man to win an honorary academy award and the first Oscar so yeah destroy that guys legacy snowflakes
I find it strange that there is a wave of destruction being lead by people who were born decades after the passing of people of achievement. The question is why is this necessary, and what is to be gained by this? Every time you come to RUclips, someone born in the last generation is posting all sorts of negative information about people from a time before they were born, never having lived in the times when these people were active and their works appreciated. Anyone who ever accomplished things through the efforts of others is going to be a target for criticism. But the matter needs to be taken within context and a complete understanding of the times and circumstances that influenced the actions of these people. The fact is that they achieved great things, far greater than what we are seeing today, and they did it with limited education and without the resources we have today. To that, in spite of surface disagreements of what people did or how they did it, they accomplished things. The world is complicated and diabolical because of dealing with the human element. In order to come to a common ground on things, there has to be an acceptance of what may seem the best decision or action to take regardless of what others may think, not knowing the whole picture or what is affecting the circumstances and actions of the person. While such people like Walt Disney, Lucille Ball, Cecil B. deMille, and many others from decades past were held in high esteem, they were still human beings who had psychological issues in their lives that shaped them. This applies to everyone in history--they were only human and dealing with issues that were complicated, many issues that had never been experienced before. So there was no hindsight to refer to. For the good or bad of it, we need to appreciate what these people accomplished no matter what negative reports come to the surface decades after the fact. These people deserve respect. If one of the purposes is to show the contrast of the real person over the public image is to show how we can be better people is the reason, that is one thing. But I do not see this reasoning reflected in any of these videos. So to tear these people down decades after they have died is not productive. This is dismissive, cynical, and a reflection of jealousy. These people accomplished far more than any of us and for that they should be respected. What's next, destroy what they did that serves as standards of excellence? We already have standards destroyed. The question is WHY is all of this necessary?
Nah. He's been dead for a long time now. It was different times and the mistakes of the past have shaped our future. Without atrocities and regrets everyone would be terribly immoral.
I was under the impression the dwarves on snow white were the mystical humanoid creatures that are able to prospect and mine already polished diamonds in a raw diamond mine, not humans suffering from dwarfism.
yeah but that won't stop those who look for ism's in everything
Yep.
Who cares
@@rtl1003 Peter dinklige
Nice!
Growing up, I never made the connection that the dwarves in snow white was a representation of people with dwarfism. I just assumed it was an implementation of a fictional race of people, like the dwarves from world of warcraft, or other fantasy race dwarves. Like garden gnomes, elves, and fairy's.
Derick Mitchell as the little people said Peter Dinkleage does not speak for all of them look at the munckins in Wizard of Oz those actors did not get offended!
Dwarfs and other creatures who ended up in fairytales, often started out in serious reports from people of all cultures and races seeing them. Just like giants, mermaids and other things. Its just that movies shaped our image of these things in such a goofy way, that we think about what we saw on screen and go naaaaah, thats to weird and childish. Its not total fantasy always...if you dig into this, you find many interesting things that werent made up for kids at all. And its not a coinscedence that you can find depictions and descriptions of these things in so many differetn cultures, that didnt even mingle with each other at the time, and it was written down in chronicles too.
@@aprilgosa5779 You also have to take into consideration that the Wizard of Oz was also released in the 30s. A lot has changed since then.
The term dwarfism was coined in the 1870's , Schneewittchen ( Snow White ) was first published in 1812 ... The folkloric creatures came first
@@aprilgosa5779 They got rich.
Walt Disney is still a saint in comparison with the monsters that lead the company today.
yes, walt disney was a genius, he changed the world, he made the best movies ever, the modern day people at disney just care about money HAIL DISNEY
Bob Iger is a crybaby...
Peter Dinklage actually got a quite a bit blow back from the small people community for those comments. They equated it, to him trying to pull the ladder up after he got his. One of my favorite comments was “Peter Dinklage is not king of the dwarves and does not speak for us.”
He just didn't want any competition in Hollywood. He wanted to be the go to for those roles
He is behaving like a snob.
Wouldn't a Snow White remake only create jobs for more dwarf actors though? Maybe just seven jobs, but still...
Did Mr Dinkelage even watch Snow White the dwarves were the heros they killed the Evil Queen/ Witch! They knocked her off the cliff! LOL
I guess he didn’t know how to play the Game of Thrones in real life
From what I've heard, the dwarfism community heard Peter Dinklage's thoughts on Snow White and told him to shut up. There were a lot of articles talking about the outrage over how he'd cost them what could have been career-making roles.
I forgot what Dinklage was so mad about, was it about the dwarves controversy?
@@Abebabe413 Except it's not even controversial if you ask the majority of the little people community, it was Dinklage slamming the door behind him.
@@NotMyRealName6 ah yes
@@NotMyRealName6 A lot of people do think he just didn't want any other little people getting famous and threatening Dinklage's spot as Hollywood's go to actor for a role that needs a little person.
yeah dinklage should have been the bigger man about all this
The older I got, the more I realized Walt Disney was a person.
He was genuine yes in his vision of a better world, but he had his dark sides to like everyone else. It's in a lot of these cartoons, especially in those early years, that are often banned or have changes implemented. But what redeems him is his integrity. He kept his private thoughts private and showed respect even towards people he privately did not like being around for whatever his personal reason is. He wasn't saintly, but he did his darnest to be the better person because he wasn't blind to suffering.
Walt Disney was not perfect, but he was a person.
well said. No, he wasn't perfect. Yes, he created a big part of our collective childhood. Accept it.
Yes a popular artist/
Animation Legend,
Can obviously become Egoistic;
I believe I went
To school w/Disney
Grand-son it's too
Long of a story, (or
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Way to my point that
Disney relative was
Civil towards myself
And he gathered "popularity " well
Also good looking
Family (curly blond
And tall and thin well
Dressed) enough said.
I never took for granted Walt Disney as a symbol of patriotism; even without figuring out what lesser qualities he had, I knew he was still a person with a big set of expectations placed on him and inevitably was going to face some moral struggles in his time, but the issues were never the status quo for Walt; at his core he desired to impress audiences with a wonderful new technology and entertainment experience and a good team behind it, and he certainly achieved that. Regards, Samuel Farris.
Here is how I look at him while he wasn’t perfect he did what he did out of a genuine passion he even said himself that he didn’t make cartoons and movies for money but for enjoyment which is why I personally believe he would be ASHAMED at what his company has become these days.
The only perfect person is jesus
Yet despised and rejected
How can us mere mortals
Be something we are not
Altho in the theatre and movies
Actors try to play a larger than life
Image!
It should be stated that the dwarves in Snow White did not live in a cave but in a house, and were very wealthy because they had mined all of those gemstones. It was also the dwarves that ended the witch. They were never portrayed in a negative light.
Comparing being short to slavery is crazzyy
4:17
I have no doubt that this habit caused not only vocal cord issues but problems with his esophagus in general. I find it odd that in all of his years, no one told him he was consuming his cigarettes wrong. Not a single person mentioned cigarettes are meant to be smoked, not chugged. That many years spent chugging dry, shredded tobacco along with the paper and filter. Have you ever tried to eat multiple crackers without taking a drink? Same principle just with a harmful substance. I'm surprised he could speak at all.
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@Jefferson Gonzalez I know it's not what was meant, but with all of the wonderful words that would accurately describe his chain smoking(
@Jefferson Gonzalez he knows it means chainsmoking
@M Y T H I C A L N O V A my reply to the statement that was posted 17 hours before you commented.
Chugging means drinking quickly, AFAIK.
The biggest problem with modern critics is that they fail to take into context the times a person lived in. It's so easy to be so morally superior when you weren't raised or grew up during a said era. My personal take is that Walt was an idealist and saw some of the good of some philosophies but personally didn't adapt what he thought was bad in them. Which is why Jews, black people etc. Who knew him defended him. He was searching for an ideal, an ideal he put into words when he was describing his future world. Also, dwarves are a mythological race, in real life terms the only practical way to represent them is to cast short people. That also gives rare job opportunities for them who aren't Peter Dinklage. Something that was voiced by these actors. It's easy to virtue signal when you're already in a position of privilege, another thing when you don't live in that bubble and have to deal with everyday reality.
(Idealisation) is always the problem, and that can be deduced without having to apply modern morality to past events with hindsight at our sides to attack his choices in who he idealised.
@@LlibertarianGalt In what way, shape or form is idealism always the problem? Idealism is the first step towards an aspirational goal. What facts or points contribute to your deduction that makes being an idealist the perennial problem?
@@JLP627 I meant idealisation sorry, my bad.
@@LlibertarianGalt Ah, makes sense now LoL
I think the real problem is that they're not happy with what they have and use that anger to put others down instead of picking them selves up.
In 1971, at the end of a working day I went to the Disney offices in The Strand, London, to meet an employee to go to the theatre that evening. Peter went to use the restroom before we left and he was to lock up on the way out. As I waited, I answered an "out of working hours" telephone call. It was an executive of Disney in California, calling with the news that Roy Disney had died. The US executive had presumed that I too was an employee but I was not, I was a record company exec. For me, as for many of my age, the very last Disney film was "Fantasia" I love it to bits!
That would have been December 20th,1971.
Thankyou! How I wish that I hadn't given up writing a daily diary during the heady years: the memory still serves well but I guess that much detail was lost in the next joint! That was life and so busy with the excitement of the day to give the time to the page a day books that I keep and have done religiously for the past four decades.@@jmen4ever257
The animation on infographics is insanely good. Salute guys.
It looks the same to me for the last decade approximately.
proof of what? This is not my first day on internet or RUclips, Ive been on internet since 2006 non stop.
@MYTHICALNOVA2005 this is a very funny conversation.
He was a business man, he was playing both sides, he would then always be on the winning side.
This reminds me of Tommy Shelby in the final season of peaky blinders
A practice that not only Disney Inc does. But now it’s to the detriment of every company but China.
Walt was a true neutral.
If someone played both sides like that today, they would be scolded for not taking a firm stance against the evil. So your point is what? It's okay because he is him?
Say what you will about the man, but he is a saint - compared to the people running his company now.
100%
Agreed
lol no he wasn't... he's mistreatment of women and minorities in his company is well documented lol.
Disney is not what it used to be
lol sure
walt disney really didnt expect that much from a mouse drawing, impressed
Ub Iwerks did an Amazing job with Mickey Mouse
"He became conservative... that's ok, lots of things need conserving." 😃 yep, he loved his antique clocks collection.
3:46 Shame Oswald hasn't been depicted in more Disney products as part of Mickey's group of friends after recovering the rights of the characters in order to use him in Epic Mickey. It's like they completely forgot about him after the second game flopped
Fun fact: Sport announcer Al Michaels was traded for Oswald the Lucky Rabbit in a sport TV deal
I think that was because Oswald got taken from Disney by the company he worked with at the time. Something involving copyrights I believe. That used set him so much that he made sure a situation like this would never happen again. I also believe it’s this whole mess that inspired him to create Mickey. As a sort of replacement for Oswald. But feel free to look this up yourself.
@@johnprudent3216 pretty much what happened. Oswald and the majority of Disney animation studio at the time was taken from him by Charles Mintz and Universal. It’s what set off Disney to protect his characters, and be very wary of all the big studios.
He was in the mickey mouse shorts and epic mickey
Until these Friday night funkin mods.
Missed were two life-altering events--Walt Disney was in the Chicago post office as a substitute mail carrier when someone bombed the building, and Walt caught the Spanish Flu just after joining the Red Cross and recovered at home (hospitals were places that people went to die).
Later, Walt Disney had a nervous breakdown brought on by overwork. Then his mother died--Walt had gifted his parents with a new home and even sent a studio repairman to fix a gas leak, but his mother died as a result of gas and his father almost died as well. Walt experienced tragedy and nearly died multiple times before finally expiring on 15 December 1966.
BUT I WANNA KNOW HOW WALT DISNEY DIED FOR REEEAAAALL😡
@@niasharamos1718 died of Lung Cancer
@@tamyaevans1631 They said he died from being frozen but why did he get frozen?!
@@niasharamos1718 He didn’t die because he got frozen, he died from lung cancer. The frozen thing is just a myth, it hasn’t been proven if it’s real or not
It's Infographics, they always leave out details here and there. Either it's to save time or to make the story sound more interesting.
I appreciate the nuance that this video provides! I feel very frustrated when people criticize historical figures according to today's social standards. It's too easy to look back on a well-known person's life and say he should have done this and he should have done that. Peter Dinklage, Meryl Streep and whoever else have not been elected moral judges of the universe. They weren't raised in the same world as Walt Disney and weren't in his shoes. You can't retroactively apply our culture today to the past and be critical when it doesn't line up. Judge yourself and your own actions, and your life will be much better off.
AMEN!
Well said hindsight is the best 20/20 you cannot apply modern morals to people 50+ years ago. You look at most people with a moral test 90℅ will fail especially if they have wealth and power.
Yea abolitionists (liberal progressives) didn't exist back then
😑 naw just do the right thing and it'll hold up throughout eternity. See Jesus Christ.
@@JohnDavis_90 haha Jesus is a special example. I wish everyone acted like him. My point is that it’s his job to judge people, not ours. 😃
It's sad what Disney Company has become in modern times
Why what's wrong?
@@UN1VERS3S Have you seen the live action remakes
Yes it’s very sad
It was worse back in the day have you watch the video lol
@@UN1VERS3S If you had to edit a 3 word reply, I highly doubt you'd understand the point no matter how presented.
the 7 dwarves didn't live in a cave they lived in a house......their job was that of miners. how is that offensive.?
Mining is one of the most physically demanding jobs in the world, so showing dwarves mining and actually being _good_ at mining can only be a good thing.
Walt's questionable past explains a lot of Disney's actions today....
By trying to distance themselves from him and being a true neutral, they end up making him look like a paragon of virtue when compared to Disney Inc now.
Yes! Disney had more than a few skeletons in the closet, but the present-day wokeism is much more creepy.
Walt Disney is a legend
It's funny how Dinkledge talks bad about movies portraying little people in that way but he had no problem taking paydays for acting in those movies. According to many little people actors it's hard finding roles as it is and now with Dinkledge's comments, all those actors won't be able to find work.
Peter Dinkledge also made a point to not take roles to perpetuated negative stereotypes about little people. He never once took a role as an elf or one of the seven dwarves even while he was a broke actor surviving off of ramen.
It's interesting on how Dinkledge refused to play a mythical creature known as a dwarf in Snow White, but he had NO problem playing one in the MCU, on Game of Thrones or in the last Cyrano movie when the lead character was now a dwarf instead of having a huge nose.
@@paulwoida8249 he was 16 feet tall in Thor what are you even talking about?
@@PoetPariahMusic Yes but its based on dwarves from the Norse lore. They just made him big in the movie so he would take the role or wont get offended.
@@BOMBON187 no he was based on marvel's dwarves they are huge
I've seen song of the south in it's entirety, it's bad but it shouldn't be hidden, it needs to be shown so people understand that mistakes happen and we can progress from them
They are removing splash mountain as well.
By hiding the bad, it will be inevitably repeated, rinse and repeat.
The only good thing is the animation but not when it went to fully live action.
COPIUM Ya’ll smoking
Meryl Streep bad mouth's Walt but it didn't stop her from being in Into the Woods, which was produced by his company.
Meryl Streep also supports Roman Polanski and actual child predator.
A hypocritical Hollywood star? Color me shocked. 🙄
From what I hear Disney ironically became a Jewish company at one point so the joke would be on Walt Disney himself.
Disney as a company is a sick company.
yeah but they still have the magic of entertainment that no-one else does
@@Judyhopps-1iq COPIUM BRO
WALT WAS A N4ZI
I still have a lot of respect for Walt and love going to Disney World…he isn’t perfect but who is?
What is still chilling to me is one cast member recalled that Walt never said goodbye but the day before he went into the hospital Walt said goodbye to him
Is he perfect? Siding with Trash that murdered millions isn’t falling short of perfect. The guy is disgusting beyond any reasonable measure. Respect what? He was a traitor.
True
‘He isnt perfect but who is?’ He was a bad guy? Wdym not perfect. Its pretty easy to not be sexist, racially insensitive, anti this or that. Anti labor unions?
You do know he was a 33rd degree freemason, right? And you do know what that entails, right? Maybe do some research...not the greatest guy in the world & not the happiest place on earth.
@@lorelai9208 pretty common in the time period but either way that doesn’t change the fact that he created a great world
I've studied this man for the last 45 years and if he participated in anything questionable I feel he probably really thought he wasn't doing anything wrong. Maybe he was naive. He certainly made so many quality films while he was alive and they were very family friendly. He had some christian values and his daughter Diane said he very much believed in God. When he opened disneyland he had a protestant, catholic and Jewish minister at the opening. So think what you want, only he and God truly know.
How have you been studying him for 45 years? Have you met his family, friends and colleagues? Read historical documents? Etc. Are you writing a book? "I've studied [him] for 45 years" is a very odd statement...
COPE
Walt Disney wasn’t a villain, but he sure was flawed in ways, but you have to remember, there were different standards in his time
Wasn't a villain? You do know he was a 33 degree freemason, right? And you know what that entails? Maybe do some research...not the guy you think he was!
@@ShannaM1 @ShannaM420
1. No, Walt Disney was not a 33 degree Freemason, as far as I can tell. There is no official record of him joining a Masonic Lodge or receiving any Masonic degrees The claim that he was a 33 degree Freemason seems to be based on a misunderstanding of his involvement with DeMolay International, a Masonic-sponsored youth organization that he joined when he was 19
2. These are some common reasons for conspiracy theorists to label him as such:
- His creation of Club 33 at Disneyland, an exclusive private club for VIPs, which some people think is a reference to the 33rd degree of Freemasonry. However, there is no evidence to support this theory, and it is more likely that the name Club 33 comes from the address of the club at 33 Royal Street in New Orleans Square, or from the number of corporate sponsors of Disneyland at the time of the club’s construction23.
- His use of Masonic symbols in some of his films, such as the square, compass, and all-seeing eye in early drafts of Fantasia. However, these symbols are not exclusive to Freemasonry and can have different meanings in different contexts. There is no proof that Walt Disney intended to convey any Masonic messages through his work24.
These pieces of evidence are not enough to prove that Walt Disney was a 33 degree Freemason, as they are based on assumptions, speculations, or coincidences. They can be disproved by looking at the official records of Freemasonry and DeMolay International, as well as the historical and artistic sources of Walt Disney’s creations.
There's some research for you sir.
If you do have any other evidence of Walt Disney being a Freemason, I would love to hear it so I can look into it myself. I would like to have a logical discussion with you about this rather than you just insinuating I have not done any research, when in fact I have very much done so, when you just throw claims that I assume you heard on a RUclips video once and believed it completely without looking into it yourself at all. You didn't give any evidence for your claim an any capacity, how can you say I don't do research when you throw claims with no backing. I am actually a long time business researcher and love to look into the lives of many successful entrepreneurs such as Ray Kroc, Rockefeller, Steve Jobs, and, yes, Walt Disney. I have watched numerous documentaries and read many books about the man and am actually quite knowledgeable about him and his life, please don't just assume you know more about someone just because you watched a Top 10 video once.
Sources:
Was Walt Disney a Freemason? | Scottish Rite, NMJ
Was Walt Disney a Freemason? - Skeptics Stack Exchange
Was Walt Disney A Freemason? Exploring The Rumors
Peek Inside Walt Disney’s Secretive Club 33 - Ripley’s Believe It or Not!
Debunking Myths About Walt Disney - MousePlanet
Yep
@@ShannaM1 lol what person of power then and now isn’t a mason?!
@@CarolCityCane305 that's not the point. I'm trying to educate this person that Walt wasn't the sweet innocent man we were raised to believe he was.
Fantasia and Snow White were some childhood favorites also Bambi and Pinocchio. I actually feel fortunate to have been able to have grown up with those movies. It's too bad the companies getting run into the ground by corruption and greed.
Exactly!
I’m grandmother would disagree but I do agree I did not watch those movies when they came out but I do like them and it is a shame that it’s going down to the ground
The company is doing just fine. They still make billions of dollars in profits every year.
Okay, Walt Disney wasn't perfect. No human being is. But I've been given no clear, hard evidence that he was a terrible, evil man.
He sounds like a typical capitalist.
Jon Cena , chuck Norris , me, need anymore examples of perfect humans ?
Jon Cena , chuck Norris , me, need anymore examples of perfect humans ?
He might have not been evil but his company is
@@prinnyhayate5517 facts
I love how your videos are educational and entertaining 😊
In certain parts of Europe "Mickey Mouse" magazines are being published/sold with his comics and as a long time fan 'of em (stopped buying/ reading 'em upon starting middle school and getting my hands on my first smarphone) I can 100% say Mortimer was Mickey's upper-class rival, oftentimes trying to court Minnie. 🙃 Another fun fact is in the comics, Mickey was portrayed as a part-time police officer and an adventurer, one comic even depicting 'im trying to prevent an apocalypse in Mexico. (hope the last piece of info wasn't too much 🤐)
Fun fact: The comics were originally targeted at the US only but heavily flopped there. Some say it's because they don't like reading.
Yeah i remember those. I think they stopped selling them in 2006 or something like that?
@@korribreki For some reason, Europeans loved Mickey comics, Goofy comics, Donald comics, Scrooge comics etc.
But brands like Marvel or DC never got a foothold. I got a Norwegian Superman number 1 in my closet. But that's pretty much it. They only released a few comics in th EU market before giving up.
One of the only comics still alive here in the modern era is Donald Duck. All other comic brands died out in the 2000's
@@SilentForrest Nah, I've lived in England, Sweden and Iceland and they all love DC comics (Marvel is also popular but not close) Belgium and Germany are both full of comic book stores too.
@@SilentForrest they never stopped making 'em
Let's just say that it was a different time, a different mentality and that it didn't age well at all. There are plenty of movies and cartoons from that period that fall into that category.
My dad worked at the local library. He would show the full length and newly released Disney movies in our back yard on the weekends. Just like it was shown in the theaters. It goes without saying that it became popular with the local parents.
Yes but essentially it’s bad lol
@@alal2192
By today's standard, absolutely !
@@thomasridley8675 So why keep it around in todays society? Why do we pander to things that do not align with our morality. Nostalgic reasons?
@@cartier-8548
They should be a reminder of just how much our general attitudes have changed for the better over the yrs.
It is part of the history of film and animation. And should be seen in that context.
@@thomasridley8675 yeh ur right back in the day racism was ok… tf
Walt Disney didn't create Mickey Mouse alone. It was actually his best friend, Ub Iwerks, who designed the iconic cartoon in 1928.
They both created Mickey Walt create his personalty and Ub did the animation they both create mickey
06:36. Considering how Communists and Socialists treat Conservatives in the USA today, that seems like a pretty peculiar take on your part? There's no "fair society" about it - the Communists ACTIVELY placed agents in American society (amongst many other countries in the world) to undermine and subvert it via the Communist and Socialist parties set up in foreign nations to bypass those countries' sovereignty and autonomy, or flat out hijack foreign nations from their elected representatives (a strategy that was later adopted by capitalistic countries and implemented via some international companies as its own version of the strategy). Is that "Progressive"?
If you want to "inform" people about the "Red Scare", at least be fair in your coverage of it. (Both the civil rights movement AND the labor unions served as an entry point for the Communist and Socialist regimes to gain a foothold in non-Communist and non-Socialist countries via its disenfranchised, who then went on to install murderous regimes of their own in several minor countries). They didn't serve in those movements because it was the "right thing to do", they serve in it to gain power of a future government by embedded proximity to power and influence. Also, even Communists and Socialists have their own version of it to persecute their ideological and political rivals. I live in a Communist country, and I've seen FIRST HAND what their handiwork looks like.
07:03. Countries across the world has a "bad track record of racism" (so singling out America seems like a weird thing to do), both by some with their population and some of THOSE that come to live there. Even against subcultures in their own populations.
07:52. So did several current day politicians and "progressive movement leaders" of today. Are you going to be making videos of THOSE people as well, and criticizing them equally as hard?
08:22. The same can be said of today, and how some "Progressives" love to court Communists and Socialists who openly state bigoted views (and are celebrated for it). But I guess that's not going to be acknowledged.
09:16. That's because "socialism" was seen as a "good philosophy" back then (prior to discovering the horrors inflicted under it By Germany and Russia, to name a few)? You yourself said at the start of your video that Communists and Socialists were seen as the Progressives of their day. It's LITERALLY in the name of the political party and such policies formed the key objectives of their party.
10:46. "The [insert the accepted bad people of the week] are the reasons for the problems in the world." Sounds like the standard message on TV these days. Also, 11:54, not hearing a lot of criticisms against them STILL following that methodology in current day against other groups (if anything, it's ACTIVELY celebrated)? So why is it right for some and wrong for others - there's no consistency in that position (genuine question)?
12:58. Would that also include not "idealizing" the horrors of Communism and Socialism, and its various current-day versions?
13:32. And yet, I hear NO pushback against OPEN sexism against men current day? That is SEXISM TOO, but I guess that doesn't count (for some unknown reason).
14:09. How EXACTLY do you compare a vision for a futuristic society with a methodology of continual improvement with a closed society that wanted to remain constantly the same? There's no consistency in that position? O.o
14:24. True. But here's the more interesting question - why is the "Far Left" exactly like the "Far Right"? Perhaps because the "Far Right ideology" is ACTUALLY LEFT OVERS from "Far Left ideologies from the past", but since most people are ignorant of history, they don't ACTUALLY know that?
Agree with you. This is a horribly biased video, with a very clear political agenda.
But who really is infographics.
I used to be a Walt hater, but these days I'm like...'what did this society do to that poor man to be so tormented'...
A point needed tho, is that Dinkledge was called out by WWE's Hornswaggle for causing the loss of seven acting roles for an already marginalized group.
He knew what he was doing, can’t have any competition in his possible roles
Those comments were Peter Dinklage knowing he's still only the second most famous little person actor and trying anything he thinks will bump him to #1. You will never be Warwick Davis, sorry about it.
Aaaaaaaannnnndddddd Disney just lost Steamboat Mickey
You know what they say
"Keep a close eye on your friends"
"Keep a closer eye on your enemies"
Too many people get their feelings hurt or look for things to be offended about. I just ignore their stupidity
South Park has shown the most accurate depiction of the Disney Corporation.
Family Guy did pretty good too.
@@deerejohn7209 South Park did it better
I bet they have.😁
@@lonewolf9578
Flashgitz may just have the edge there.
Before Disney brought fox, the Simpsons movie moved Disney
He has so many details I’m starting to believe he’s an immortal being who’s seen all of history
Great summary in under 16 minutes, but when Walt dropped out of 8th Grade, was that grammar school in Chicago or was that high school? Education is forever changing. Walt created a school that's now called CalArts--he was ashamed of dropping out of school and did his best to promote education.
Except schooling and education are two different things, especially when it comes to effectiveness.
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Peter Dinklage actually played a dwarf in Prince Caspian, the more you know🌠
That is the first and only time I have heard Donald Duck described as "eternally happy".
Right?! Donald has one of the shortest fuses of any cartoon character!
So Walt Disney was inspired by the famous Austrian painter with funny mustache.
Crazy to think that a person like this was the one who created our favorite, iconic childhood classics
He seemed to have always been quite brilliant, drawing and creating from an early age so it really isn't all that crazy at all.
he created Mickey Mouse and his gangs and this was and still brilliants but he didn't create our childhood classic like Snowwhite, Cinderella, Pinocchio, Treasure Island, Peter Pan and so on he based them on the originala nd he based them very beautifully we didn't know of them until he based them and make them our classic but let us give a little credit to the original writes without them they're will be no (favorite, iconic childhood classics)
In summary; Walt was the average person of the time he lived
If he was alive now, he'd be canceled by the Twitter mob.
For good reason
@@k4shr3di06 because he didnt like jews?
@@ahwmahwm5533 yeah
If he was alive now, he would have probably had different opinions.
Walt also had a small scale steam railroad in his backyard. He was a major train guy. His small scale Live Steamers are still out there.
The irony of Meryl Streep calling out Walt Disney. How's your mate Roman Polanski doing?
I don't know if I have mentioned this before but you guys always have a nice score for your videos.
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9. The rise of Walt Disney ✅
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11. How much do actors make from each film? How do actors make their money when they aren’t acting or filming? Is their acting checks enough to survive and live in luxury?
By the 80s and 90s, Disney was more of a children’s company. When I watched any of those movies, I never thought anything negative ever. And in business, money talks. They’re going to go to war and what makes the money. It has nothing to do with their creator. All he’s doing is trying to make money. You can’t be mad at him for entertaining the base audience, to make money. It’s called the business and people are reading way too much, into some thing that happened decades and decades ago.
Not really, especially given what was always known by society to be wrong.
@@endtheccp4228 depends really on what is moral outrage vs practical practice. Morality in such matters really only hit when the actual thing is sustainable or the owners arbitrary personality kicks in. Walt isn't some great prophet but he certainly isn't the villain of entertainment he is painted to be. He's just financially successful, though his practice of taking credit is criticized today it's also done by those who criticized him in doing so.
Once again, thank you for making videos like this. Not only does it amazingly go into detail about Walt but it ends on a broad note which emphasizes everyone to be open minded and learn as we're supposed to.
This video is very inaccurate and lacks a significant amount of context for some of the situations.
They’re making his image Hitler’s image just look and you can see what they’re doing.
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its incredible how ONE MAN can IGNITE the fire amongst others.
I love how your videos provide all the information so the viewers don’t have to fight through bias just to form their own conclusions.
Get real. Infographics is inga.ous bring overly politically correct.
@@starmnsixty1209 I’m really curious what you were trying to type when you put “inga.ous”? I can’t think of a word that’s close to that.
@@johnjacobs4280 probably infamous
I sincerely hope the op is just being ironic. If not, it's just sad.
Not all by far.
As much as I love Disney's entertainment, I'm not blind to its history. Just goes to show why you should never put people on a pedestal, no one is 100% pure.
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hear hear. Don't listen to trolls, listen to your own experience.
1.6K MCU fans aren't happy about their hypocrite overlord's expose
Family Guy did an episode a while back alluding toward some of the dark secret workings within the Disney franchise.
😂😂🤣🤣😂😂🤣🤣😂😂 Well if a degenerate Mic said it it must be true
Can’t believe my hero was an enemy of my religion.
As it is with all people, he’s only human. This doesn’t paint him as a bad man, only allows us to see Disney through realistic, human eyes.
I'd take Walt over any of these foul beasts running Disney now. BTW guess it was time for Infocrapics to take down another American Icon.
Yes, and though they wont talk about it i think all the good things he did outweigh the bad.
Dinklage is a liar. The Seven Dwarfs live in a house, and work in a mine. Plus, even Disney has been forced to go back to seven Dwarfs, not those "magical creatures" which look like they came out of a San Francisco homeless camp.
In 5th grade, we did a big long project about, you can choose anyone you can, dress up as them, draw a later board about their life and memorize their whole life story. I chose Walt Disney. I dressed up as Walt Disney, and memorized his whole life story.
Ironic. The "red scare", which this video villainizes, unjustly judged people by whom they associated. An yet this video judges Walt by whom he associated.
I do believe the erasure of the reality of slavery in SOTS is not a racist act of cowardice, but a deliberate tactic Walt used and the company still uses today to get rid of any dark or serious themes in their movies to make it more family friendly. Famously he got rid of all the darker material in the Jungle Book that the source material had. The company then significantly toned down any dark, sad and heavy themes in their films (though the Hunchback of Notre Dame, Pocahontas and The Lion King remained pretty dark in places)
Easy to trash a guy long after his death.
Michael Jackson has entered the chat lol
@@IllisiaAdams How so?
All I got from this is that Walt was a shrewd businessman who did what he could to grow his business without necessarily crossing every t and dotting every i, not unlike most Americans back then and even now. It’s all about the almighty dollar. Walt was an expert at marketing, of that, there is no doubt. This video didn’t even talk about his dubious history of (discreetly) taking credit for animation techniques he didn’t invent.
I hate him.
Yep this video doesn't want to get hated on by Disney so they played it as safe as possible but they got some info wrong.
Shouldn't have left out the fact he was a 33 degree free Mason or that Disneyland was used as a secret military base in the 50s
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@RGeeye you are correct, my mistake! I meant during the cold war times
I could imagine that Walt was just trying to put some specific atrocities in simple text for kids to understand, yet its not like he could be completely excused for some cartoons mentioned in this video
Song of the South takes place in Reconstruction, the black people depicted are not slaves.
Disney I swear to god let the mouse go into the public domain already
Oswald the lucky rabbit is just kinda forgotten from Disney history
Unrelated.
Oswald 😢🥺💔
Even though Disney created him FOR Universal.
These vids are the best. The amount of time and effort put into them is amazing.
U couldn't even have watched this one yet lol
@@kylekrynicki he knows it’s gonna be good because it’s the Infographics show
@@kylekrynicki lol I know but with this channel each video is amazing and entertaining.
Unless they’re about ancient Egypt.
So Walt Disney had his flaws but one question remain can you judge historical person by today standards?
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About Song of the South:
It seemed to me that Uncle Remus was the only adult that was a decent role model for the protagonist. Sure it depicted slavery, but that was a reality in some situations. I do not think that they were happy to be enslaved, but it is what they knew, and they did their best to enjoy what parts of life they could. I don't get that it was degrading or misrepresenting enslaved Africans in the American South. If anything, it showed them as wise despite not having an opportunity for formal education, kind despite not being treated fairly, and resilient in the face of highly unfair situations.
On the other hand, the white characters were shown to be shallow, foolish, violent, petty, selfish, and disrespectful.
That being said, I am not of African descent, I have never lived in the American South, and my family did not ever practice slavery, so there may be nuances that I missed.
I fast forwarded to the end and now I’m stuck in a time displaced pocket dimension.
Mortimer is actually an enemy of mickey mouse, he pranks him all the time
There's actually a movie about Walt's first years as an artist called "Walt Before Mickey", in which he was played by the same guy who played Kevin in American Pie
I saw "Songs of the South" in a theatre in 198X, and it truly made me think that racism was a horrible, terrible thing.
I watched it as an adult last year; didn't make it 15 minutes into the film! It is so *utterly, HORRIBLY* racist in its every line! I had no conception of how truly bad it was.
Wearing the rose coloured glasses of nostalgia, every red flag just looks like a flag.
You poor thing
It’s a great movie and if the battle flag offends you you definitely don’t understand the south. It’s a badge of freedom and liberty and independence. It was the north that was the aggressor and Lincoln the traitor.
@@theyoutube8933 they didn't say a single thing about the confederate/battle flag. Also the main reason for southern succession was due to slavery
@@surfingbrrrd you’re wrong on that point. It was the tariffs imposed on the south by the fed government to enrich the northern states. The south at the time had the most money and largest businesses.
Slavery was about to end on its own due to its high cost. Lincoln made slavery an issue when the south was winning the war and to gain support in the north. It was political move not a moral one. Most slaves actually stayed on the same farm and plantations they were already working. Lincoln hated the south and did everything he could to ruin them even though it was him and his government that caused the war.
Maybe he just became infatuated with the "new thing" of natzism and after becoming familiar with it turned against it.
There is something deeply disturbing about a man who despises both women and cats.
They are either going to end up a serial killer or Walt Disney.
Be a killer, or rich? Is that a solid 50/50 split?
I actually know most of this. Walt Disney followed Ayn Rand's Objectivist philosophy (Objectivism is a philosophical system developed by Russian-American writer Ayn Rand. Rand first expressed Objectivism in her fiction, most notably The Fountainhead (1943) and Atlas Shrugged (1957), and later in non-fiction essays and books.[1] Leonard Peikoff, a professional philosopher and Rand's designated intellectual heir,[2][3] later gave it a more formal structure. Rand described Objectivism as "the concept of man as a heroic being, with his own happiness as the moral purpose of his life, with productive achievement as his noblest activity, and reason as his only absolute".[4] Peikoff characterizes Objectivism as a "closed system" insofar as its "fundamental principles" were set out by Rand and are not subject to change. However, he stated that "new implications, applications and integrations can always be discovered".[5]) from Wikipedia. who was a Russian-Jewish woman who couldn't Soviet Communism even in her adolescent years unlike most Eurasian Jews who embraced Communism and were some of their leaders, hence the Jewish-Bolshevism canard.
People rarely consider social norms when they consider the lives of past heroes. People have not always felt the way we do about life, and stuff, and everything
Disney CEO Bob Iger crafted an agreement with NBCUniversal in 2006 that would bring Oswald back to Disney. Iger-knowing how important Oswald was to the Disney family and the company’s legacy-traded the contract of sportscaster Al Michaels to NBC for the rights to Oswald the Lucky Rabbit.
Just fyi, snow white was written by the brothers Grimm in the 19th century, well before Walt was alive. He merely adapted it since it was an existing story in the free market
An eternally Happy Duck? What happend? The Donald Duck we know has the shortest fuse ever.
I’m watching this now before Disney removes it
It's ironic that people get upset at walt disney for making dark jokes. Since they also make jokes about Queen Elizabeth, 9/11, slavery, and the Holocaust
Where and when?
@@IllisiaAdams What do you mean?
An interesting thing not mentioned here is that Disney's surname was derived from the Norman "D’Isigny", which means "Lords of Isigny" - a title bestowed by William the Conqueror to a couple of his loyal followers in 1066 or close to it.
0:53 hey we share the same birthday 😂😂
I like these type of videos keep it up.
Minnie was there since the first Mickey shorts in 1928.
There seems to be a lot of effort in this video to paint Disney as a good person, no matter his misdeeds. I draw cartoons too, but I wouldn't call myself a saint just because I bring a bit of joy to others.
Sounds like you're panini pressed...get over it
I agree and I find it a little ridiculous that everyone he was around had some type of connection with the nazi's however he just managed to turn his head and never get involved ... yeah right....
@@paulross1768 you work for Disney so you can't say anything negative about them. I understand bro 👌
@@paulross1768 Since I'm not a dumb teenager, I don't know what that means. Urban dicks says I either "crapped under a toilet seat" or was "crushed by 2 beastly women" I guess I'm over it?
I am sure this discussion will never pin down the real man. How much was just what he needed to do for his movies to be hits.
And how much was his personal views coming out. Only he knew the answer to that question.
The worst part: no chewing gum allowed at Disneyland.
When accusing Walt Disney of racism because of his 1946 "Song of the South," the movie is clearly set in the post-Civil War era and the workers are obviously not slaves. Who paid slaves and allowed them to come and go freely? On the other hand, who complained about the 1956 "The Great Locomotive Chase" for its Civil War depiction of multiple slaves? Why wasn't that 1956 Fess Parker movie slammed?
Could the motivation have been Walt's anti-communism? The next year, Walt Disney appeared before the HUAC. Walt was also cooperating in the official persecution of communists. Could that have been the real reason for boycott of "Song of the South?"
Today's Disney company is again under fire for some of its many political activism antics. Had there been an obvious communist-inspired boycott of the Disney Company because of Walt Disney's political activism, perhaps today's Disney Company would have been less eager to climb on band wagons that careened over a cliff. Jumping into politics makes waves and makes enemies. There's circumstantial evidence that the 1946 boycott of "Song of the South" was politically motivated and had little to do with what was shown on the screen--but a lot to do with who was going to rule the nation. The lack of a 1956 boycott of "The Great Locomotive Chase" seems to support that.
This fight might make for a great video presentation on Infographics.
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They probably didn't mention a Fess Parker movie because this was an infographic on Walt Disney, not racist movies. A for effort though the what-aboutism is strong with this one.
@@KrakenIsland64 The Great Locomotive Chase was a Disney movie and television show. It was based on a book of the same name. Buster Keaton (not a Disney guy) served as inspiration for several Disney movies and Keaton's take on this was "The General." Walt Disney had a lot of input on The Great Locomotive Chase.
I still can be guilty of bringing up trivia--the Great Locomotive Chase showing happy slaves in Civil War America may have become trivial by 1956 but showing happy Freedmen in post-Civil War America was beyond the pale in 1946. Or it could have been politics as usual.
Song of the South was post Civil War right or wrong on the portrayal it’s a kids movies and James Baskett who played Uncle Remus was the first African American man to win an honorary academy award and the first Oscar so yeah destroy that guys legacy snowflakes
I find it strange that there is a wave of destruction being lead by people who were born decades after the passing of people of achievement. The question is why is this necessary, and what is to be gained by this? Every time you come to RUclips, someone born in the last generation is posting all sorts of negative information about people from a time before they were born, never having lived in the times when these people were active and their works appreciated.
Anyone who ever accomplished things through the efforts of others is going to be a target for criticism. But the matter needs to be taken within context and a complete understanding of the times and circumstances that influenced the actions of these people. The fact is that they achieved great things, far greater than what we are seeing today, and they did it with limited education and without the resources we have today. To that, in spite of surface disagreements of what people did or how they did it, they accomplished things. The world is complicated and diabolical because of dealing with the human element. In order to come to a common ground on things, there has to be an acceptance of what may seem the best decision or action to take regardless of what others may think, not knowing the whole picture or what is affecting the circumstances and actions of the person.
While such people like Walt Disney, Lucille Ball, Cecil B. deMille, and many others from decades past were held in high esteem, they were still human beings who had psychological issues in their lives that shaped them. This applies to everyone in history--they were only human and dealing with issues that were complicated, many issues that had never been experienced before. So there was no hindsight to refer to.
For the good or bad of it, we need to appreciate what these people accomplished no matter what negative reports come to the surface decades after the fact. These people deserve respect. If one of the purposes is to show the contrast of the real person over the public image is to show how we can be better people is the reason, that is one thing. But I do not see this reasoning reflected in any of these videos. So to tear these people down decades after they have died is not productive. This is dismissive, cynical, and a reflection of jealousy. These people accomplished far more than any of us and for that they should be respected. What's next, destroy what they did that serves as standards of excellence? We already have standards destroyed. The question is WHY is all of this necessary?
If history has taught is that we humans have two sides one good and bad side
Walt was not an angel but he was still better then bob igner
Disney deserves bankruptcy now.
Nah. He's been dead for a long time now. It was different times and the mistakes of the past have shaped our future. Without atrocities and regrets everyone would be terribly immoral.
@@WvlfDarkfire Or did L-GoL mean, the Disney Corp., for what they're doing lately?
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