Best thing I could see happening is in a few years a new dev gets the liscense and they basically do modern remakes in the same vein as the Destroy All Humans remakes, aka 1:1 the same story and content with just better graphics and polish on the gameplay. Then just drop 3 and 4 from canon and make a totally new SR3.
@@Epditz Saints Row 4 is a Love Letter to the entire Franchise and it Gives finality to a majority of the characters in the cast. The idea of going around and Helping your friends by freeing them from their own personal hell is a well done idea allowing the players to really dive deep into what's bothering or Holding the crew back for all these years. -Like Shaundi Feeling like she's responsible for the death of Gat because she's to weak and her insecurities about her SR2 Self. -Helping Johnny get over and Accepting the death of his Girlfriend after seeing her be Killed over and Over again for Year's It Brings All of the Fan Favorite characters back and Fixes the problem that SR3 Had In killing off Johnny Gat for no good reason but now give it context. SR4 has the most creative and Fun Missions In the franchise. In the Game one moment your doing and metal gear stealth level, another your Doing a side scrolling beat'em up or you revisiting SR1 gameplay for a bit. SR4 has the second best Villain in Zinyak, he could easily kill the Boss and all his friends but that would be too easy he wants to Break then Physically, mentally and emotionally which brings the whole personal hell for the crew. Also his VA and lines are memorable and sometimes has funny moments. I could go on more but that's just what came to mind of the top of my head.
I don't hate that they killed off Gat, my biggest issue is how un-ceremoniously they did it and how early it was. On my first playthrough I honestly didn't realize he was dead until the funeral scene at the end of the first chapter. He deserved much better than an off screen implied death. Also Shaundi is pretty much a completely different character, I wouldn't mind the change if they actually had some reason to justify it but nope it's pretty much just an entirely different person with the same name. I also completely forgot Angel existed till you mentioned him in this video lmao Kenzie and Oleg are pretty cool tho, no complains about either of them.
Shaundi's change would have made sense if it only occured after Gat's death and the Saints getting cornered by the Syndicate. Like the scene with the Boss and Peirce trying to send her home before she reiterates that she's not backing down after what happened to Johnny clearly seems to indicate that was the intention, it would be a perfect transition point, but... She's already by their side doing a bank robbery with a hardened attitude in the opening.
I only played sr3 back in middle school and loved it. I played the 2nd one during these past few months after the backlash of the reboot. As much as I love sr3, it doesn't hold a candle to the 2nd game. The 2nd game feels more complete.
You're definitely right and glad you see it that way but the third is still amazing in my opinion like personally yeah they could have done better but it's still damn good our characters get some more development and honestly the story isn't shite. I mean yeah it's not what the first two were and I'm glad it wasn't they tried something new to an extent it kinda worked in some areas. My only issue was being forced to do activities I'll agree with him there but I didn't mind everything else about it plus it was a good different game from sr2
The first act of the story is honestly pretty damn good. It's just after you Kill Phillip is where it goes all downhill. Also the fact that we never actually saw Gat die it really made me think he was going to show up near the end or something. Seems like a weird way to kill off a major character so I didn't even believe till the end of the game. Also the Killbane ending is so damn good
@@starkiller007 Yea that kind of is true lol whole story is a mess. Guess I was just let down that Phillip was killed off so early. The rest of the story felt so dragged on afterwards. Other then Viola cause she was awesome and the highlight of SR3 for me. Hate how they didnt bring her back for 4
I agree. It's like their most creative writing was at the beginning, and they just gave up by the end and got as random as possible.With a few bright spots here and there.
@@ashy113 it's an actor. SR IV Showed real Gat is on alien spaceship after getting kidnapped, cuz Bri'ish alien scared he'll kill them all if not stopped
My favorite part from SR2 was hearing my character randomly sing along to the song Down Under. As soon as I heard that I knew that it was going to be the best game in the series. 3 is pretty enjoyable but doesn’t hold a candle to 2
If you play as different voices I think they all have their own songs they sing. I did the black female voice and I always noticed for years some audio glitch was going on everytime Take On Me played. Just a couple years ago I investigated and listened closely and it was just my character singing.
They have that in the third game for just one mission i think. Peirce and the Boss start singing a Sublime song, What i Got. The Third Game is a good game. And honestly it really wasn't the game that ruined the series or started the downfall. SR2 is the better game for sure. Still cant wrap my head around blowing up earth and putting us in a simulation for the 4th game. After we become the president off screen. Like it just seemed like a terrible way to take the story.
the third has the most boring city and pedestrians in the game. i prefer saints row 2 map, i mean the mall still blows me away to this day. so many different floors and little areas with water fountains and cars that randomly spawn, i even got a gyro copter to somehow spawn in there but i ended up blowing it up trying to out of the mall.
Personally, I feel like the ending where you kill Killbane was intended to be the final ending. The speech that ties everything together, the epilogue, and the fact that the other ending is literally a joke makes me feel this was the ending they intended to be canon, but a different story team built of the joke ending of SR4
They probably leaned into the sellout ending when the sales turned out better than expected. They definitely had opinions on the direction expressed in that ending and Gat's callout but THQ probably demanded another one just like it after SR3 out performed the original games which probably explains the jokes about Dex in IV and Gat Out of Hell since that was a hanging thread the fanbase still wanted answered but had nothing to so with the future of their series unless you count the unreleased Arcade game as still Canon but still means the plot is unceremoniously resolved not by Playa/Boss.
They did keep doing them. And they made Saints Row 3, 4, and Gat out of Hell. But everybody complained so much that they rebooted everything. But you didn’t like that either so here we are.
Even as somebody who really likes all of the saints row games... *looks at SR 2022* almost all of the saints row games i have to agree with most of this. SR3 always felt like it was stitched together following the surviving parts of a story script that was accidentally tossed into a paper shredder.
Holy shit dude, my first username ever for the internet was "luigifan07" and seeing your username took me back to the day I came up with it! Mighty fine username, if I do say so myself lol
The pacing of the story was an absolute mess. In Saints Row 1 and 2 each gang had at least three major characters to serve as escalating antagonists for 9 a game. In SR3 they had 5 for the entire Syndicate. Meanwhile you gain five new Saints to fight them. The developers tried to make a game that was nothing but set-piece climaxes, but since there's no buildup everything gets killed off almost as fast as it's introduced. And then instead of adding in any actual escalation in earlier missions they just shoved in mandatory side missions as padding.
Playing with the various voices, I found nu-Shaundi saying something that I didn't completely hate for once in Stilwater Blues "mission". The line was "are we killing the Syndicate or are we becoming them?". I felt like if that could've gone anywhere instead of being yet another throwaway line, it could've added to the whole theme of "sellouts vs gangsters" the game pretended to have going.
That would’ve actually been a really good story, Gat added to that and so did Birk I’m the beginning, that could’ve lead to us becoming more like sellouts and we wouldn’t notice unless we pay attention to dialogue and certain actions.
@@mrcocoloco7200 even with a decent rig (r5 3600 rtx 2070 8gb and 16bg of ram at 3200mhz) it runs funky. I've had many numerous crashes on it just in W10 compared to playing on 7 way back the in the 2010s.
It's more in "playable" state on PC compared to 2. At least most of those who tend to prefer it over 2 tend to name this as their main reason since most of them tend to be PC players.
I think Saints Row 3 is pretty great. They should've leaned more into that more depressing atmosphere after Gat died though. It's like as soon as the Morning Star is dealt with, they just forget Gat ever existed. I'm fine with the entire celebrity life of the Saints, but that could've been the perfect way to bring back the serious gangbangers from the first two games in the 4th one. Have them realise being famous has essentially ruined all their lives so they decide to go back to the old ways.
Expect for Shaundi being to much a jerk to the boss and Pierce but other wise the game was pretty great and the deckers were a masterpiece and the luchadores was a masterpiece.
@@ROBLOX-1gv7ej2j Yeah Shaundi was just odd in the game. It's such a jarring shift from hippie gang banger to extremely serious, hostile to everyone including friends and the first one to shoot in every altercation. Is that ever even explained? It's just not even the same character at all.
@@coltonwilkie241 For some reason the gangs bangers have a strenger Strength in Santa row 2 the Weapons seem to be stronger In sants row 3 and The custom is better and saint row 3
It’s definitely not a bad game to me, but it *definitely* was the start of the downfall. I don’t know if it’s just me, but the story felt *insanely* rushed. I thought there’d be one more act before the final one, but it kinda just never happens. Matt just straight up disappears, Shaundi is someone entirely different, and it just felt… weirdly paced. Part of what made 2 so awesome to me was that fact that you *were* the bad guy. There wasn’t even a Grove Street situation where your gang was the most upstanding of the rest, having some level of the morals the others didn’t. No, you were the “best” because you *won.* Your character sold all the same drugs, murdered as many innocent people as he needed to, inflicted just as much chaos and carnage all because he wanted to do it and he wanted to win. As funny as the game could be, there was no denying the Boss in SR2 was a *monster,* and it made the story that much more interesting. There was absolutely nothing redeemable about the Boss besides his loyalty to his friends, and that was it. And that’s how it should’ve remained. A bloodthirsty gangster, a “Magnificiant B*stard” so to speak (thanks RUclips censorship). Someone who’s undeniably evil but you still can’t help but admire their schemes and plots.
The annoying thing about the Belgian being in the Tower is the game literally comments on how stupid it would be for him to be in the Tower. The writers knew it was lazy, they just didn't care because "LulRandom" was their design motto for it.
To me, the problem with SR3 is that it couldnt commit to either tone. This halfway point between the seriousness of SR2 and the insanity of SR4 just frucks my nuts.
I agree that it was a downfall from the original saints but nonetheless it was a fun game and I had nice memories. But I wished they kept true to their origin
I had played and loved Saints Row 2 in the leadup to SR3's release. At the time, I was extremely hyped and thought The Third would be the best game ever. Needless to say, I had set my expectations extremely high, as Saints Row 2 was one hell of a benchmark. However, when SR3 came out, I felt nothing but disappointment. The dull map, the reduced customization options, the disjointed story and the lack of distinct gangs to fight. This feeling of disappointment is something I have felt for the remainder of the series, which was compounded by the awful reboot. For me, Saints Row 2 was the peak, and now that Volition is gone, it will remain the golden age of the series.
I always assumed Saints Row's niche was that it focused on Organized Crime more then GTA did. Both are Crime Sims, but outside San-Andreas you're kind of on your own, not directly attached to any criminal enterprise. And even with San-Andreas technically you are, but also not really. Saints Row is a story about a Crime syndicates rise of power where's GTA is just a Criminal's Story. Hell, Saints Row 1 your character literally didn't speak but a handful of words and that wasn't until the very end of the game. Something Saints Row 2 even joked about.
For those who want to see what an actual good version of Saints Row the Third would look like, may I recommend the fanfiction Saints Row: The Third (rewrite) By TheHeadInCharge. It contains both seriousness and silliness as well as tackles the theme and idea of the Saints being sellouts and working their way back to their old selves. I highly recommend it.
I don't hate Saints Row 3, I just think it had no soul. It felt like a much smaller game and, if we're being honest, kind of boring. The story was forgettable and somehow both Rushed and Padded (Most of the Main Story Quests were glorified Activities and the ones that weren't felt like they were jumping the gun on things) Customization isn't quite as robust, the map is fucking boring with no visual distinction, the world didn't feel all that reactive the game felt so much shorter. I'm replaying it now on the hardest difficulty and I wiped out the Morning-Star in like less then an hour, I was even trying to take my time with it. I just the get impression the team behind it at the time might not have actually known what to do with it and leaned into the "Lulrandom" fad that was very popular at the time of the games release.
I really liked how saints row 4 tried to do something different and I liked the powers but I understand why people wouldn’t like it also saints row 3 isn’t super bad as a sandbox game if you just want to shoot people and blow shit up
A worthy successor to your saint's row 2 video. Can't say the same for what sr3 is to sr2. Honestly, Volition had so many opportunities for the reboot, the non-canon sr3 ending would have been perfect as the boss re embraces his violent and ruthless self as he was in sr2, but no, we get piñatas in a Mexican desert and a wingsuit stolen from just cause. Speaking of which, with the success your Saint's Row videos have, if you have played Just Cause, I'd highly suggest you review that franchise too. It's actually quite similar (Jc2 being very nice, jc3 being received worse but still good and jc4 kinda failing). Anyway, nice video bro keep it up 🎉
Plus R* messed up last year with the GTA trilogy. The reboot was Saints Row's time to shine, but they fumbled too. R* at least has GTA 6 to fall back on.
2 is leagues beyond 3 but that penthouse shootout with power by Kanye playing is imo the single greatest mission of the franchise, nothing complicated, just a reminder of who you were and who you have no problem being again.
Had the twist of the storyline in saints row 3 have been that Dex actually faked his death and used the Syndicate and STAG by proxy or behind the scenes, it would be good enough to realize that not only the saints soften with wealth and fame, and that he waited until the saints forgotten who they really are. Truly that would’ve improved the storyline. Also maybe have someone who played the messenger face of the syndicate of something like that and died the same way Philippe died from the syndicate tower, then the real Philippe Loren would come in and play the real boss of the syndicate and that he kidnaps Johnny Gat or shaundi and kills either of them, maybe it would sense that the saints would decide to stay in Steelport in a revenge campaign to destroy the sects of the Morningstar syndicate.
I’m glad some people acknowledged that this game was the beginning of the end for this series. Where the downfall began. I liked SR4 better because of the nostalgic things they threw in.. but SR3 was my least favorite of the series…. Until the reboot came along. 🤦🏾♂️
What's really grinding my gears is that SR3 had the potential to be absolutely EPIC and one of all time greats which is evident when looking at stuff like the penthouse mission. If it kept around that level of quality and just cut down on the overall length by dropping the filler from the main story line, it could have been amazing. Instead it's just ok, it's barely above mid and it's a thin line it threads.
A reason for why the killing Killbane ending feels better than the "sellout" ending is because it feels more in line with the first two games sense of consequence the gang life brings with it. Its a bloody buisness where nobody is guarantied to make it out alive which was beautifully shown in the first two games. In the first game, everyone knew the dangers of having Lin go undercover within the Rollers, not because the risk of her betraying the Saints, but because she would be dead for sure if anyone found out she was part of the Saints, but despite the dangers she still went through with it so the Saints could wipe the Rollers from the map, even if it would be at the cost of her life. Likewise the second game really shows that nobody is save, just the fact that Aisha associated with the Saints was enough to paint a target on her in the eyes of the Ronin, with her death being what shows a more human side of Gat with him being willing to let Shogo off the hook because he didnt want to kill him there out of respect for Aisha, showing that even the invincible seeming Johnny Gat is still a vulnrable human being And the Ronin werent the only one to kill one of the Saints during the events of SR2, Carlos was pretty much the reason there Saints were able to reform again by helping the Boss break out of prison and seemed to really look up to the boss and wanting to proof himself to show he deserves to be a lieutenant and not just became one cause he busted the Boss out, and the Boss maybe seeing a bit of himself in Carlos back when he first joined the Saints, with his death hitting the hardest in my opinnion because the Boss had to mercy kill him at the end of Red Asphalt because of his injuries being too severe to help him any other way Being part of a gang means having your head be constantly on the line, and every Saint knows that. They know that anyone of them could get clipped at any time and they still fight for the Saints, but anyone who messes with the Saints will pay for it, which is why going after Killbane (with the context of Gat being dead) feels like what the Boss would have done in the heat of the moment, finally getting revenge for Johnny, his second in command and closest friend by killing the last head of the Syndicate
One of the biggest problems of Saints Row 3 is the lack of focus it has. Im not even talking about the boring as hell activities, but more so how the gang warfare is spread out. In the two first games you always had a choice between three missions involving one of the rival gangs which created a good self contained mini stories. Granted, in SR3 The Syndicate is supposed to work together so there would be a lack of interaction between the gangs if they stuck to the old formula, but the fact the story of SR3 jumps back and forth 3-4 rival gangs/organizations with no clear focus is definetly killing its pacing. You dont really get to do a whole lot towards any of the gangs, until the game decides its time to take them down, but its never really earned. I think as much as it mightve been a problem for the story of the Syndicate as one giant entity, sticking to the old formula of series of missions for each gang you get to choose and finishing off with a STAG arc wouldve definetly given the game more purpose
I’m so glad I’m not the only one who hates 3, the artstyle and design down to the FONT pisses me off. Not to mention the fact they hired a porn star to voice one of the characters.
This is the one game where I actually preferred the "bad" ending. I ain't no sellout! Plus I was annoyed with Shaundi's personality in this game so I didn't care if she died.
Another thing I hate is Pierce’s smug “is it worth it?” Bullshit at the end of the game if you choose to let Shaundi die. Like wtf Pierce why don’t YOU go and save shaundi or literally anyone else? You are supposed to be the leader of a gang but by shaundi dying because you and you alone chose to go after Killbane it makes you realize you’ve really been doing everything on your own and your gang is useless.
Saints Row the 3rd is my childhood I remember being so hyped about it when it first got announced they should’ve just stopped with 3 and did the reboot like 1 and 2
it was nice that the SR2 video Istura made, actually made me play SR3 and i found it AMAZING, i felt something i havent felt in a while, like real joy and a sensation of "i want more" but the 4 game is trash... still, its always fun to see istura talking about saints row, be it good or bad... nice video, bro!! love it!
This was the first Saints Row I was introduced to, I saw Gat first time I loved him as a character for the limited time; to see him then go was a major sadge moment, although if "he did die" officially. I dislike the fact its off-screen cause it feels like they did him dirty. And yeah, beating Morning Star first being the leading faction, then being told we have to train to beat the Tech man and Wrestler man felt kinda daft, as u said if it was reverse then yeah it would make sense building up to beat the morning star. I think they tried to fit in Oleg in and couldnt link it to the other factions that well. As he had information on the syndicate regarding to others who could help you against them; as well as them seeming to shift towards Kill Bane being more of a villain than Loren for some reason? Kill Bane being kiiled being suspended is so dumb, even without knowing SR1 or 2 as SR3 is what I came to, we're just like "Yeah lol lets do a lil' trolling to Kill Bane" "Why not just kill him?" was what I thought, coulda dealt with Kill Bane then and there, and then had the story go around STAG similar to how SR2 was with dealing with gangs and then dealing with the big corporation. And its funny how Gat talked about Saints being sellouts and doing the arguably "good moral ending", then we just sellout cause Film make money $$$$$$$$$$ Edit: Forgot to add, beautifully crafted video btw. Look forward to next one.
30:08: That's actually pretty interesting when thinking about what they did in the Saints Row reboot game, during one of Neenah's missions where you have to mess up a dude's car by customizing it in the customization screen. Another immersion breaking segment with a bad joke similar to what's happening here, lol.
it might sound harsh but everything saints row related volition put out after 2 was mid. It was truly exceptional in the series and on its own. The other games just aren’t like that.
I remember Saints Row 3 in a positive light but wow I didn't know it was as flawed as it is. It makes sense why Saints Row 4 did not feel right when I played it.
This game was just too wacky I needed some type of seriousness the look was too cartoony wand childish saints row had the perfect balance and wasn’t trying hard to be funny bring it back plsssss
It’s not as good as Saints Row 2 of course but it’s still better than 4, GoOH and the Reboot. It’s a game for those who drinks Captain Morgan every nights
For a decade now, I've been arguing with people about saints row 3 and how much I dislike it. And I'll do it for another decade hahaha Tho I'll give it credit for introducing me to the series
Killing Shaundi to become "true gangsters" just makes you the monster Julius said you were. Maybe selling out isn't the worst thing you can do when the choice is to keep letting your friends die like you have before.
Fun fact: that canon ending on the film set is one giant reference to Red Faction Guerilla. The line the boss says is the speech given by Alec Mason at the beginning and end of the game. The games take place in the same universe...well, before SR4 anyways, so it's a nice little nod to another series Volition drove into the ground.
While I enjoyed The Third, it was an abismal letdown compared to what SR2 had. Missing tons of features and cool details the previous game had all around. On side note, I prefer SRIV than The Third. At least it's crazy feels way more energetic and fun compared to The Third's plain dullness.
I think they only brought back Johnny in Saints row 4 because of the amount of blacklash they had from killing him off in Saints row 3. I feel part of the reason they killed him off was of Sasha Grey, Creepy Hulk Hogan, Burt Reynolds were voice acting in the game and those people cost too much that there wasnt enough budget to keep the voice actor for Johnny. Saints Row is an ok game, its certainly better by leaps and bounds over Saints Row 2022.
Saints Row 3 is tremendously disappointing after you play saints row 2. The attention to detail saints row 2 has is just something we don't get in games anymore which is the real downfall of gaming as a whole.
Saints row 3 was mostly wack to me until the ending of the game with zombies and all the craziness it was genuinely fun, so was saint row 4 but the problem with that is they tried so hard to be something they wasn't and went overboard and completely destroyed the story, i don't consider it a real saint row game to me should have been dlc, sad to see what the franchise has turned into as of 2022
Yeah the series died the moment SR3 released. Been saying it since it released. It’s all downhill from here on out. Guess what series lost its soul and just overall fell apart? You guessed it. Saints row. Sucks to watch this series slowly get its soul leeched away from it.
I wouldn’t say the truth downfall I would say the star of its downfall the fourth game was it’s down fall in the reboot was the extinction of saint row and the birth of bastardization of the saints
I love this game but nostalgia really does block this one for me but I can see from coming from 1 and 2 why they say this is where the downfall started.
As someone who has played this game through like 5 to 8 times (one of the only games i ever played in my life more than once other than mass effect 2) in terms of pure entertainment, this is up there for me. I think in terms of story its a downgrade from 2 (i say as whole 2 is better but the clunky gameplay was hard to get through). I kinda liked the less gritty and serious tone in this game (it felt its own thing and not a gta like game), and u could make anyone (from a big tit babe to a old man) and feel like "the boss" as they said in the marketing promotions. The comedy and dialogue was fantastic imo, i havent really found another game like it. I think that was the main reason i kept playing it over and over tbh (the missions were repettive, the gameplay got repetitive after a while). Granted this game was my gateway into the franchise so i hold it in higher placement than 2.
Honestly overall Saint's Row 3 is my favourite in the series and I played all of them except for the first game since I don't own any consoles. Saints Row 3 was a massive upgrade in terms of graphics, shooting and driving systems, the story was decent just like in every other game and also performance wise it runs way better than 2 on PC. Also I liked how they made buying all the stores necessary if you want to take over the map 100% and I enjoyed the voice actors choices we got for our characters starting with the 3rd game, I mean you can't go wrong with Laura Bailey or Troy Baker. I definitely didn't enjoy the more limited clothing options and how they killed Gat off screen. Like I don't even mind that they decided to kill him but they should've let us see exactly how it happened because in my opinion killing Gat is not an easy thing to do.
Back with yet another banger I see! After the heartbreaking and terrible "reboot" of the series came out recently I decided to go back and replay saints row 3 and 4. I definitely appreciate the mindless explosive fun those games still offer but man, they could've been so much more. They could've been great, the ingredients are all there but as you said this is where they started to get lazy in alot of ways as its easy to notice the dip in quality compared to the 1st two games in certain aspects. The story especially. The 3rd has alot of ideas but they simply aren't fleshed out enough to be anything more than surface level. They needed to real take the time to fine tune alot of things. Like the city itself steelport, is just so bland especially compared to Stilwater theres barely anything intresting going on. And don't even get me started on how they basically dropped the Dex storyline from the corporate warfare dlc and how they completely wasted the syndicate. Stag was kinda cool though but even they are lacking development. Anyways great video keep up the fantastic work 👏
I love SR3. This game is so straightforward and unchallenging you can play it with your brain either turned off or focused on whatever else, like music or a podcast. Perfect game to play when your mind is occupied by whatever.
Even though I may not like it as a successor to SR2 - since it lacked most of the overall mood I loved about that previous title - it did have that particular quality which I still think was fun. Not a bad game in and of itself, just far from a spiritual successor.
I agree, but I'd rather play something else if I'm up for any challenge. With that said, SR3 and 4 are a blast in coop and very comfortable to play at around 200 ping, the lag was almost not noticeable.
Gta always had humor but it reigned it in and always kept it measured. Think thats why it succeeded. Saints row kept trying to 1 up itself so much that it turned into a a dumb scifi game.
This video and the one before it are a most excellent analysis of this game series and I really think you are delivering some amazing reviews stepping away from GTA as your main focus. I'm hyped to see what you produce with other games and other genres in the future. The editing is fun, fast and on point, never slows to let your attention wander and the in depth analysis of the game as a whole is thorough and concise. A GTA youtuber going multigame? I never thought I'd see the day. Good job and keep it up man.
for me saint row 3 is the last saint row and johnny gat death is the real canon for me also saving shaundi is the real canon ending and boom!!! thats the real end for saint row franchise and i pretend saint row 4,5,AoM,and saint row 2022 did not exist in this world
As a kid I liked 3 and 4 didn’t know people hated these games, tbf I haven’t played them since I was a kid so I don’t really remember the games too much but I enjoyed them back then and I played 1 and 2 before 3
There's a bit of reason behind killing him first. it's like daredevil. If kingpin is taken out every low level ganster and crew will be hunting for the top spot. This making the saints fight a free for all rather then having a 1v3b gang fight they'd realistically lose
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Killbane speech about the Saints legacy ending with a whimper and not with a bang was prophetical... Years later and the reboot proved him right...
man that hurts physically
and is 100% right
Damn… I hate that that’s so true
It does indeed appear as though the franchise is dead, as least for now.
@@arthurfleck629 it is dead. the devs and community manager pretends it isn't
Best thing I could see happening is in a few years a new dev gets the liscense and they basically do modern remakes in the same vein as the Destroy All Humans remakes, aka 1:1 the same story and content with just better graphics and polish on the gameplay. Then just drop 3 and 4 from canon and make a totally new SR3.
Technically it ended with decapitating The Overload of the Entire Galaxy and taking his Throne. We don't talk about the reboot
To be fair with the Killbane match thing, unmasking a luchador wrestler is the biggest humiliation the unmasked wrestler could ever have.
Our fucking enemy should not be a goddamn luchador ... do you not see the issue? Its cartoony
Ngl the first saint row I played was the 3rd and I really like how over the top it was
Me too and I did every activity@@javi-xv7dl
@@javi-xv7dlthe third isn’t bad it’s only bad bc it was the beginning of the end for the franchise that’s all
Especially in Mexican Lucha Libre Lore.
saints row 3 is at least better than saints row 4 and the reboot
Good ol’ times.
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@@CAL08 Could you please tell me how?
I wouldn't call that a tremendous achievement
@@Epditz Saints Row 4 is a Love Letter to the entire Franchise and it Gives finality to a majority of the characters in the cast.
The idea of going around and Helping your friends by freeing them from their own personal hell is a well done idea allowing the players to really dive deep into what's bothering or Holding the crew back for all these years.
-Like Shaundi Feeling like she's responsible for the death of Gat because she's to weak and her insecurities about her SR2 Self.
-Helping Johnny get over and Accepting the death of his Girlfriend after seeing her be Killed over and Over again for Year's
It Brings All of the Fan Favorite characters back and Fixes the problem that SR3 Had In killing off Johnny Gat for no good reason but now give it context.
SR4 has the most creative and Fun Missions In the franchise. In the Game one moment your doing and metal gear stealth level, another your Doing a side scrolling beat'em up or you revisiting SR1 gameplay for a bit.
SR4 has the second best Villain in Zinyak, he could easily kill the Boss and all his friends but that would be too easy he wants to Break then Physically, mentally and emotionally which brings the whole personal hell for the crew. Also his VA and lines are memorable and sometimes has funny moments.
I could go on more but that's just what came to mind of the top of my head.
I don't hate that they killed off Gat, my biggest issue is how un-ceremoniously they did it and how early it was. On my first playthrough I honestly didn't realize he was dead until the funeral scene at the end of the first chapter. He deserved much better than an off screen implied death.
Also Shaundi is pretty much a completely different character, I wouldn't mind the change if they actually had some reason to justify it but nope it's pretty much just an entirely different person with the same name.
I also completely forgot Angel existed till you mentioned him in this video lmao Kenzie and Oleg are pretty cool tho, no complains about either of them.
Shaundi's change would have made sense if it only occured after Gat's death and the Saints getting cornered by the Syndicate. Like the scene with the Boss and Peirce trying to send her home before she reiterates that she's not backing down after what happened to Johnny clearly seems to indicate that was the intention, it would be a perfect transition point, but... She's already by their side doing a bank robbery with a hardened attitude in the opening.
@@nobody2996 oh fuck, that is a good point it would have made so much sense if things happened that way in game
I kept thinking Gat was going to show up near the end of the game on my first playthrough and his death was just a fake out.
@@MistahJay7 Same
@@MistahJay7 same lol
I only played sr3 back in middle school and loved it. I played the 2nd one during these past few months after the backlash of the reboot. As much as I love sr3, it doesn't hold a candle to the 2nd game. The 2nd game feels more complete.
You're definitely right and glad you see it that way but the third is still amazing in my opinion like personally yeah they could have done better but it's still damn good our characters get some more development and honestly the story isn't shite. I mean yeah it's not what the first two were and I'm glad it wasn't they tried something new to an extent it kinda worked in some areas. My only issue was being forced to do activities I'll agree with him there but I didn't mind everything else about it plus it was a good different game from sr2
Well SR3 has 10/10 on steam. What do you want 11? Many games can't even make it to 8.
@@fynkozari9271 lol that doesnt mean anything
@@nickhutcheson8580 you have to separate the wheat from the chaff.
@@fynkozari9271 Bro lmao it's not a ten out of ten at all at least a eight or seven at the best if any of them are a ten out of ten it's sr2 for sure
The first act of the story is honestly pretty damn good. It's just after you Kill Phillip is where it goes all downhill. Also the fact that we never actually saw Gat die it really made me think he was going to show up near the end or something. Seems like a weird way to kill off a major character so I didn't even believe till the end of the game. Also the Killbane ending is so damn good
The first act of the story is literally mostly activities, so nah.
@@starkiller007 Yea that kind of is true lol whole story is a mess. Guess I was just let down that Phillip was killed off so early. The rest of the story felt so dragged on afterwards. Other then Viola cause she was awesome and the highlight of SR3 for me. Hate how they didnt bring her back for 4
I agree. It's like their most creative writing was at the beginning, and they just gave up by the end and got as random as possible.With a few bright spots here and there.
he shows up when you save shaundi. he is alive for the movie scene of gangstas in space
@@ashy113 it's an actor. SR IV Showed real Gat is on alien spaceship after getting kidnapped, cuz Bri'ish alien scared he'll kill them all if not stopped
My favorite part from SR2 was hearing my character randomly sing along to the song Down Under. As soon as I heard that I knew that it was going to be the best game in the series.
3 is pretty enjoyable but doesn’t hold a candle to 2
If you play as different voices I think they all have their own songs they sing. I did the black female voice and I always noticed for years some audio glitch was going on everytime Take On Me played. Just a couple years ago I investigated and listened closely and it was just my character singing.
@@blaccery9504
They do in fact each have their own song they'll sing, but on top of that, they also all sing Take On Me.
@@Rad-Dude63andathird yeah the Hispanic male voice sings don't you forget about me from the mix
They have that in the third game for just one mission i think. Peirce and the Boss start singing a Sublime song, What i Got.
The Third Game is a good game. And honestly it really wasn't the game that ruined the series or started the downfall. SR2 is the better game for sure.
Still cant wrap my head around blowing up earth and putting us in a simulation for the 4th game. After we become the president off screen. Like it just seemed like a terrible way to take the story.
I honestly never felt like it was a GTA clone. They had their own formula that saw success with the first 2 games. Damn shame
the first definitly tries to be GTA SA... not saying is something bad since R* really abandoned the idea of gang banging since then.
@@PEDROGARCIA-qj3gr Every game set in the hood ain't based on GTA SA, lol.
@@PEDROGARCIA-qj3gr It was in development pre-SA as Bling Bling, how is it trying to be a game that was developed later but released first?
Really came full circle with gta online trying to be a Saints Row spin-off 😑
@@PEDROGARCIA-qj3grThe saints originally wore green but when they saw that Grove Street also wore green they changed it to purple.
the third has the most boring city and pedestrians in the game. i prefer saints row 2 map, i mean the mall still blows me away to this day. so many different floors and little areas with water fountains and cars that randomly spawn, i even got a gyro copter to somehow spawn in there but i ended up blowing it up trying to out of the mall.
The reboot setting feel dead
@@elperrodelautumo7511 yes the reboot is trash but saints row 2 is the best
@@Themistocles30 Saints Row 2 is The Fucking Chad!!
@@PearlTheCrystalGem Gat was way more bad ass in saints row 2.
@@Themistocles30 True
Personally, I feel like the ending where you kill Killbane was intended to be the final ending. The speech that ties everything together, the epilogue, and the fact that the other ending is literally a joke makes me feel this was the ending they intended to be canon, but a different story team built of the joke ending of SR4
They probably leaned into the sellout ending when the sales turned out better than expected. They definitely had opinions on the direction expressed in that ending and Gat's callout but THQ probably demanded another one just like it after SR3 out performed the original games which probably explains the jokes about Dex in IV and Gat Out of Hell since that was a hanging thread the fanbase still wanted answered but had nothing to so with the future of their series unless you count the unreleased Arcade game as still Canon but still means the plot is unceremoniously resolved not by Playa/Boss.
Saints row got bullied into turning cringe if they just ignored all the hate and kept doing them they probably woulda had some good
Dang gone!!
Yeah volition should’ve been more based …
They did keep doing them. And they made Saints Row 3, 4, and Gat out of Hell. But everybody complained so much that they rebooted everything. But you didn’t like that either so here we are.
@@demitriuscovington370 not our problem sr3, 4 and the reboot are pretty bad compared to the first two
@@nikolasferreira3247sr4 is the best in the series
Even as somebody who really likes all of the saints row games... *looks at SR 2022* almost all of the saints row games i have to agree with most of this. SR3 always felt like it was stitched together following the surviving parts of a story script that was accidentally tossed into a paper shredder.
Dang gone!!
I’ve always been able to enjoy them on the entertainment of the gameplay. Story fell off so hard though
Still baffles me how a developer could go from making one the greatest open world games of all time to sr3
Yo!
and eventually the saints row reboot
Holy shit dude, my first username ever for the internet was "luigifan07" and seeing your username took me back to the day I came up with it! Mighty fine username, if I do say so myself lol
@@SwankyJami Thanks I appreciate it. It seems like you have good taste in usernames lol
time and budget cuts if I remember correctly
The pacing of the story was an absolute mess.
In Saints Row 1 and 2 each gang had at least three major characters to serve as escalating antagonists for 9 a game. In SR3 they had 5 for the entire Syndicate. Meanwhile you gain five new Saints to fight them.
The developers tried to make a game that was nothing but set-piece climaxes, but since there's no buildup everything gets killed off almost as fast as it's introduced. And then instead of adding in any actual escalation in earlier missions they just shoved in mandatory side missions as padding.
Playing with the various voices, I found nu-Shaundi saying something that I didn't completely hate for once in Stilwater Blues "mission". The line was "are we killing the Syndicate or are we becoming them?". I felt like if that could've gone anywhere instead of being yet another throwaway line, it could've added to the whole theme of "sellouts vs gangsters" the game pretended to have going.
That would’ve actually been a really good story, Gat added to that and so did Birk I’m the beginning, that could’ve lead to us becoming more like sellouts and we wouldn’t notice unless we pay attention to dialogue and certain actions.
Always shocked when someone greatly prefers 3 over 2, absolutely boggles my mind
Well you can't blame them. SR2 sucks in the PC. Well if you have a good computer to play it with Mods that's the only way to play it.
@@mrcocoloco7200 even with a decent rig (r5 3600 rtx 2070 8gb and 16bg of ram at 3200mhz) it runs funky. I've had many numerous crashes on it just in W10 compared to playing on 7 way back the in the 2010s.
@@V1VISECT6 Facts. But that's is why I am telling this dude why Saints Row 2 is not a perfect 10/10. Not everyone can play it.
Let’s be honest…..saints 1 - 3 even 4 and gat out of hell is absolutely way better than the reboot
It's more in "playable" state on PC compared to 2. At least most of those who tend to prefer it over 2 tend to name this as their main reason since most of them tend to be PC players.
I think Saints Row 3 is pretty great. They should've leaned more into that more depressing atmosphere after Gat died though. It's like as soon as the Morning Star is dealt with, they just forget Gat ever existed. I'm fine with the entire celebrity life of the Saints, but that could've been the perfect way to bring back the serious gangbangers from the first two games in the 4th one. Have them realise being famous has essentially ruined all their lives so they decide to go back to the old ways.
Expect for Shaundi being to much a jerk to the boss and Pierce but other wise the game was pretty great and the deckers were a masterpiece and the luchadores was a masterpiece.
@@ROBLOX-1gv7ej2j Yeah Shaundi was just odd in the game. It's such a jarring shift from hippie gang banger to extremely serious, hostile to everyone including friends and the first one to shoot in every altercation. Is that ever even explained? It's just not even the same character at all.
@@coltonwilkie241 For some reason the gangs bangers have a strenger Strength in Santa row 2 the Weapons seem to be stronger In sants row 3 and The custom is better and saint row 3
Simply look at 2 and then look at 3.
They legit look like completely different games.
And then SR4 basically confirmed that
well... they ARE completely different games, from the same franchise, yea, but different games
It’s definitely not a bad game to me, but it *definitely* was the start of the downfall.
I don’t know if it’s just me, but the story felt *insanely* rushed. I thought there’d be one more act before the final one, but it kinda just never happens.
Matt just straight up disappears, Shaundi is someone entirely different, and it just felt… weirdly paced.
Part of what made 2 so awesome to me was that fact that you *were* the bad guy. There wasn’t even a Grove Street situation where your gang was the most upstanding of the rest, having some level of the morals the others didn’t.
No, you were the “best” because you *won.* Your character sold all the same drugs, murdered as many innocent people as he needed to, inflicted just as much chaos and carnage all because he wanted to do it and he wanted to win.
As funny as the game could be, there was no denying the Boss in SR2 was a *monster,* and it made the story that much more interesting.
There was absolutely nothing redeemable about the Boss besides his loyalty to his friends, and that was it.
And that’s how it should’ve remained. A bloodthirsty gangster, a “Magnificiant B*stard” so to speak (thanks RUclips censorship).
Someone who’s undeniably evil but you still can’t help but admire their schemes and plots.
That Mission with Kanye's Power playing in the back was definitely epic ! I remember being a kid & getting excited for that one lmao!!
The annoying thing about the Belgian being in the Tower is the game literally comments on how stupid it would be for him to be in the Tower. The writers knew it was lazy, they just didn't care because "LulRandom" was their design motto for it.
To me, the problem with SR3 is that it couldnt commit to either tone. This halfway point between the seriousness of SR2 and the insanity of SR4 just frucks my nuts.
Saints row the third is so off story wise that I genuinely enjoyed the 4th game more but the entire original series is still better than the reboot
Wild stuff!
As a kid I loved 3 and 4, but once I turned 12 I got my hands on 2 I never could look at the newer ones the same
I don't see what people like in Saint's Row 3.
@@IlMemetor72 3 was meh 4 i can see why you would have fun in that
@@IlMemetor72it's just fun times with friends when you are high and drunk. It's not sad and edgy like everything else that was coming out at the time
I agree that it was a downfall from the original saints but nonetheless it was a fun game and I had nice memories. But I wished they kept true to their origin
I had played and loved Saints Row 2 in the leadup to SR3's release. At the time, I was extremely hyped and thought The Third would be the best game ever. Needless to say, I had set my expectations extremely high, as Saints Row 2 was one hell of a benchmark. However, when SR3 came out, I felt nothing but disappointment. The dull map, the reduced customization options, the disjointed story and the lack of distinct gangs to fight. This feeling of disappointment is something I have felt for the remainder of the series, which was compounded by the awful reboot.
For me, Saints Row 2 was the peak, and now that Volition is gone, it will remain the golden age of the series.
I like the game, but to me it’s more of a B movie experience than a good story like the previous ones.
Cool.
Exactly.
I played Saints Row 2 back in 2012, and was blown away how much superior it was compared to Saints Row: The Third.
I always assumed Saints Row's niche was that it focused on Organized Crime more then GTA did. Both are Crime Sims, but outside San-Andreas you're kind of on your own, not directly attached to any criminal enterprise. And even with San-Andreas technically you are, but also not really. Saints Row is a story about a Crime syndicates rise of power where's GTA is just a Criminal's Story. Hell, Saints Row 1 your character literally didn't speak but a handful of words and that wasn't until the very end of the game. Something Saints Row 2 even joked about.
For those who want to see what an actual good version of Saints Row the Third would look like, may I recommend the fanfiction Saints Row: The Third (rewrite) By TheHeadInCharge. It contains both seriousness and silliness as well as tackles the theme and idea of the Saints being sellouts and working their way back to their old selves. I highly recommend it.
Might be a year late but damn, thanks for the recommendation.
@@WorlWyrm You're welcome.
I don't hate Saints Row 3, I just think it had no soul. It felt like a much smaller game and, if we're being honest, kind of boring. The story was forgettable and somehow both Rushed and Padded (Most of the Main Story Quests were glorified Activities and the ones that weren't felt like they were jumping the gun on things) Customization isn't quite as robust, the map is fucking boring with no visual distinction, the world didn't feel all that reactive the game felt so much shorter. I'm replaying it now on the hardest difficulty and I wiped out the Morning-Star in like less then an hour, I was even trying to take my time with it.
I just the get impression the team behind it at the time might not have actually known what to do with it and leaned into the "Lulrandom" fad that was very popular at the time of the games release.
I really liked how saints row 4 tried to do something different and I liked the powers but I understand why people wouldn’t like it also saints row 3 isn’t super bad as a sandbox game if you just want to shoot people and blow shit up
A worthy successor to your saint's row 2 video. Can't say the same for what sr3 is to sr2. Honestly, Volition had so many opportunities for the reboot, the non-canon sr3 ending would have been perfect as the boss re embraces his violent and ruthless self as he was in sr2, but no, we get piñatas in a Mexican desert and a wingsuit stolen from just cause. Speaking of which, with the success your Saint's Row videos have, if you have played Just Cause, I'd highly suggest you review that franchise too. It's actually quite similar (Jc2 being very nice, jc3 being received worse but still good and jc4 kinda failing). Anyway, nice video bro keep it up 🎉
The boss in the reboot is a different person from the original series as the new voices actors show
You are!
Plus R* messed up last year with the GTA trilogy. The reboot was Saints Row's time to shine, but they fumbled too. R* at least has GTA 6 to fall back on.
2 is leagues beyond 3 but that penthouse shootout with power by Kanye playing is imo the single greatest mission of the franchise, nothing complicated, just a reminder of who you were and who you have no problem being again.
The pissed off British voice was always the best lol
Had the twist of the storyline in saints row 3 have been that Dex actually faked his death and used the Syndicate and STAG by proxy or behind the scenes, it would be good enough to realize that not only the saints soften with wealth and fame, and that he waited until the saints forgotten who they really are. Truly that would’ve improved the storyline. Also maybe have someone who played the messenger face of the syndicate of something like that and died the same way Philippe died from the syndicate tower, then the real Philippe Loren would come in and play the real boss of the syndicate and that he kidnaps Johnny Gat or shaundi and kills either of them, maybe it would sense that the saints would decide to stay in Steelport in a revenge campaign to destroy the sects of the Morningstar syndicate.
I love when istura istura'd all over this video
So true
Ha!
I’m glad some people acknowledged that this game was the beginning of the end for this series. Where the downfall began. I liked SR4 better because of the nostalgic things they threw in.. but SR3 was my least favorite of the series…. Until the reboot came along. 🤦🏾♂️
Saints Row 3 was a warning to the player base of what was to come we just didn't realize it!!!
What's really grinding my gears is that SR3 had the potential to be absolutely EPIC and one of all time greats which is evident when looking at stuff like the penthouse mission. If it kept around that level of quality and just cut down on the overall length by dropping the filler from the main story line, it could have been amazing. Instead it's just ok, it's barely above mid and it's a thin line it threads.
A reason for why the killing Killbane ending feels better than the "sellout" ending is because it feels more in line with the first two games sense of consequence the gang life brings with it. Its a bloody buisness where nobody is guarantied to make it out alive which was beautifully shown in the first two games.
In the first game, everyone knew the dangers of having Lin go undercover within the Rollers, not because the risk of her betraying the Saints, but because she would be dead for sure if anyone found out she was part of the Saints, but despite the dangers she still went through with it so the Saints could wipe the Rollers from the map, even if it would be at the cost of her life.
Likewise the second game really shows that nobody is save, just the fact that Aisha associated with the Saints was enough to paint a target on her in the eyes of the Ronin, with her death being what shows a more human side of Gat with him being willing to let Shogo off the hook because he didnt want to kill him there out of respect for Aisha, showing that even the invincible seeming Johnny Gat is still a vulnrable human being
And the Ronin werent the only one to kill one of the Saints during the events of SR2, Carlos was pretty much the reason there Saints were able to reform again by helping the Boss break out of prison and seemed to really look up to the boss and wanting to proof himself to show he deserves to be a lieutenant and not just became one cause he busted the Boss out, and the Boss maybe seeing a bit of himself in Carlos back when he first joined the Saints, with his death hitting the hardest in my opinnion because the Boss had to mercy kill him at the end of Red Asphalt because of his injuries being too severe to help him any other way
Being part of a gang means having your head be constantly on the line, and every Saint knows that. They know that anyone of them could get clipped at any time and they still fight for the Saints, but anyone who messes with the Saints will pay for it, which is why going after Killbane (with the context of Gat being dead) feels like what the Boss would have done in the heat of the moment, finally getting revenge for Johnny, his second in command and closest friend by killing the last head of the Syndicate
One of the biggest problems of Saints Row 3 is the lack of focus it has. Im not even talking about the boring as hell activities, but more so how the gang warfare is spread out. In the two first games you always had a choice between three missions involving one of the rival gangs which created a good self contained mini stories. Granted, in SR3 The Syndicate is supposed to work together so there would be a lack of interaction between the gangs if they stuck to the old formula, but the fact the story of SR3 jumps back and forth 3-4 rival gangs/organizations with no clear focus is definetly killing its pacing. You dont really get to do a whole lot towards any of the gangs, until the game decides its time to take them down, but its never really earned. I think as much as it mightve been a problem for the story of the Syndicate as one giant entity, sticking to the old formula of series of missions for each gang you get to choose and finishing off with a STAG arc wouldve definetly given the game more purpose
Saints row 1: gangster
saints row 2: dallas from payday
saints row 3: deadpool
saints row 4: the mask
"Saints row" reboot: local hobo down the alleyway
you hit the nail on the head, as a long time SR fan I agree with everything you said
REALLY tempted to rewrite saints row 3's story. I'm sad they couldn't give us more
I’m so glad I’m not the only one who hates 3, the artstyle and design down to the FONT pisses me off. Not to mention the fact they hired a porn star to voice one of the characters.
This is the one game where I actually preferred the "bad" ending. I ain't no sellout! Plus I was annoyed with Shaundi's personality in this game so I didn't care if she died.
I honestly liked the murder time death time missions best except for the iconic song ones.
bro this editing was hilarious, sr3 was simply just ok
Biggest sin in this game is killing off Johnny too early AND changing Shaundi.
Another thing I hate is Pierce’s smug “is it worth it?” Bullshit at the end of the game if you choose to let Shaundi die. Like wtf Pierce why don’t YOU go and save shaundi or literally anyone else? You are supposed to be the leader of a gang but by shaundi dying because you and you alone chose to go after Killbane it makes you realize you’ve really been doing everything on your own and your gang is useless.
I remember being confused first playing Saints Row 3. After hearing how amazing it was etc, I was like "Wait is this it?"
Not gonna lie, 3rd is my favorite game, because its full of charm, intresting gangs and military, yet still is close enough to earth to be fun
finally somebody agrees with me that saints row 3 was the downfall & honestly i think 4 is better than 3 due to the nostalgic missions and characters.
That song in the character creation does go really hard tho
Ur pfp is nostalgic dead rising
Saints Row the 3rd is my childhood I remember being so hyped about it when it first got announced they should’ve just stopped with 3 and did the reboot like 1 and 2
My problem with sr3 is that it has like no replay ability and the city feels so lifeless
it was nice that the SR2 video Istura made, actually made me play SR3 and i found it AMAZING, i felt something i havent felt in a while, like real joy and a sensation of "i want more" but the 4 game is trash... still, its always fun to see istura talking about saints row, be it good or bad... nice video, bro!! love it!
SR3 and amazing don't belong in the same sentence...but I'm glad you enjoyed that game
if you legit struggled with the drugged safeword mission that’s embarrassing.
3 and 4 are actually really good, I enjoy playing them as much as the first two and they have replay value
Especially 4 imo
4 is awesome. SR2 and 4 are the ones I go back and replay all the time.
This was the first Saints Row I was introduced to, I saw Gat first time I loved him as a character for the limited time; to see him then go was a major sadge moment, although if "he did die" officially. I dislike the fact its off-screen cause it feels like they did him dirty.
And yeah, beating Morning Star first being the leading faction, then being told we have to train to beat the Tech man and Wrestler man felt kinda daft, as u said if it was reverse then yeah it would make sense building up to beat the morning star. I think they tried to fit in Oleg in and couldnt link it to the other factions that well. As he had information on the syndicate regarding to others who could help you against them; as well as them seeming to shift towards Kill Bane being more of a villain than Loren for some reason?
Kill Bane being kiiled being suspended is so dumb, even without knowing SR1 or 2 as SR3 is what I came to, we're just like "Yeah lol lets do a lil' trolling to Kill Bane" "Why not just kill him?" was what I thought, coulda dealt with Kill Bane then and there, and then had the story go around STAG similar to how SR2 was with dealing with gangs and then dealing with the big corporation.
And its funny how Gat talked about Saints being sellouts and doing the arguably "good moral ending", then we just sellout cause Film make money $$$$$$$$$$
Edit: Forgot to add, beautifully crafted video btw. Look forward to next one.
You cool.
I ain't reading allat
Exactly felt this
30:08: That's actually pretty interesting when thinking about what they did in the Saints Row reboot game, during one of Neenah's missions where you have to mess up a dude's car by customizing it in the customization screen. Another immersion breaking segment with a bad joke similar to what's happening here, lol.
it might sound harsh but everything saints row related volition put out after 2 was mid. It was truly exceptional in the series and on its own. The other games just aren’t like that.
I remember Saints Row 3 in a positive light but wow I didn't know it was as flawed as it is. It makes sense why Saints Row 4 did not feel right when I played it.
Ahhh.
@@theunderradarchannel6444 The other jarring point about SR4 was that you're so overpowered that the game was the most fun with no upgrades.
This game was just too wacky I needed some type of seriousness the look was too cartoony wand childish saints row had the perfect balance and wasn’t trying hard to be funny bring it back plsssss
Finally someone said it, 1 and 2 were the best in the series!
It’s not as good as Saints Row 2 of course but it’s still better than 4, GoOH and the Reboot.
It’s a game for those who drinks Captain Morgan every nights
For a decade now, I've been arguing with people about saints row 3 and how much I dislike it.
And I'll do it for another decade hahaha
Tho I'll give it credit for introducing me to the series
Killing Shaundi to become "true gangsters" just makes you the monster Julius said you were. Maybe selling out isn't the worst thing you can do when the choice is to keep letting your friends die like you have before.
i rathear kill bane then have a ending that will show the death of the series later
This was the first game I pre-ordered since I loved Saints Row 1 & 2, and boy was I letdown.
Nice!
I pre-ordered it too and had a fucking blast+all the dlc 💀💀
bro ur just explaining the entire saints row 3 story and complaining
Fun fact: that canon ending on the film set is one giant reference to Red Faction Guerilla. The line the boss says is the speech given by Alec Mason at the beginning and end of the game. The games take place in the same universe...well, before SR4 anyways, so it's a nice little nod to another series Volition drove into the ground.
1. Saints Row 2
2. Saints Row 3
3. Saints Row 1
4. Saints Row 4
5. Gat Out Of Hell
6. 2022 reboot
While I enjoyed The Third, it was an abismal letdown compared to what SR2 had. Missing tons of features and cool details the previous game had all around. On side note, I prefer SRIV than The Third. At least it's crazy feels way more energetic and fun compared to The Third's plain dullness.
I think they only brought back Johnny in Saints row 4 because of the amount of blacklash they had from killing him off in Saints row 3. I feel part of the reason they killed him off was of Sasha Grey, Creepy Hulk Hogan, Burt Reynolds were voice acting in the game and those people cost too much that there wasnt enough budget to keep the voice actor for Johnny. Saints Row is an ok game, its certainly better by leaps and bounds over Saints Row 2022.
Saints Row 3 is tremendously disappointing after you play saints row 2. The attention to detail saints row 2 has is just something we don't get in games anymore which is the real downfall of gaming as a whole.
Saints row 3 was mostly wack to me until the ending of the game with zombies and all the craziness it was genuinely fun, so was saint row 4 but the problem with that is they tried so hard to be something they wasn't and went overboard and completely destroyed the story, i don't consider it a real saint row game to me should have been dlc, sad to see what the franchise has turned into as of 2022
Yeah the series died the moment SR3 released. Been saying it since it released. It’s all downhill from here on out. Guess what series lost its soul and just overall fell apart? You guessed it. Saints row. Sucks to watch this series slowly get its soul leeched away from it.
yep it die in three
That’s some flawed logic I think… how could an older dude be as dangerous as the muscle he employs to fight for him??
Appreciate the free quality content my guy
Yep.
I wouldn’t say the truth downfall I would say the star of its downfall the fourth game was it’s down fall in the reboot was the extinction of saint row and the birth of bastardization of the saints
I love this game but nostalgia really does block this one for me but I can see from coming from 1 and 2 why they say this is where the downfall started.
As someone who has played this game through like 5 to 8 times (one of the only games i ever played in my life more than once other than mass effect 2) in terms of pure entertainment, this is up there for me. I think in terms of story its a downgrade from 2 (i say as whole 2 is better but the clunky gameplay was hard to get through). I kinda liked the less gritty and serious tone in this game (it felt its own thing and not a gta like game), and u could make anyone (from a big tit babe to a old man) and feel like "the boss" as they said in the marketing promotions. The comedy and dialogue was fantastic imo, i havent really found another game like it. I think that was the main reason i kept playing it over and over tbh (the missions were repettive, the gameplay got repetitive after a while). Granted this game was my gateway into the franchise so i hold it in higher placement than 2.
Honestly overall Saint's Row 3 is my favourite in the series and I played all of them except for the first game since I don't own any consoles. Saints Row 3 was a massive upgrade in terms of graphics, shooting and driving systems, the story was decent just like in every other game and also performance wise it runs way better than 2 on PC. Also I liked how they made buying all the stores necessary if you want to take over the map 100% and I enjoyed the voice actors choices we got for our characters starting with the 3rd game, I mean you can't go wrong with Laura Bailey or Troy Baker. I definitely didn't enjoy the more limited clothing options and how they killed Gat off screen. Like I don't even mind that they decided to kill him but they should've let us see exactly how it happened because in my opinion killing Gat is not an easy thing to do.
Funny how the bad ending is the one that finished the redemption arc of the Saints.
Back with yet another banger I see! After the heartbreaking and terrible "reboot" of the series came out recently I decided to go back and replay saints row 3 and 4. I definitely appreciate the mindless explosive fun those games still offer but man, they could've been so much more. They could've been great, the ingredients are all there but as you said this is where they started to get lazy in alot of ways as its easy to notice the dip in quality compared to the 1st two games in certain aspects. The story especially. The 3rd has alot of ideas but they simply aren't fleshed out enough to be anything more than surface level. They needed to real take the time to fine tune alot of things. Like the city itself steelport, is just so bland especially compared to Stilwater theres barely anything intresting going on. And don't even get me started on how they basically dropped the Dex storyline from the corporate warfare dlc and how they completely wasted the syndicate. Stag was kinda cool though but even they are lacking development. Anyways great video keep up the fantastic work 👏
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13:30 absolutely. I feel like this hasn't been talked about much within the community tbh
I love SR3. This game is so straightforward and unchallenging you can play it with your brain either turned off or focused on whatever else, like music or a podcast. Perfect game to play when your mind is occupied by whatever.
I remember when games were challenging! The good old days
Even though I may not like it as a successor to SR2 - since it lacked most of the overall mood I loved about that previous title - it did have that particular quality which I still think was fun.
Not a bad game in and of itself, just far from a spiritual successor.
I agree, but I'd rather play something else if I'm up for any challenge. With that said, SR3 and 4 are a blast in coop and very comfortable to play at around 200 ping, the lag was almost not noticeable.
@@FadedMentality….. you think there aren’t challenging games anymore? What rock do you live under lmao
Gta always had humor but it reigned it in and always kept it measured. Think thats why it succeeded. Saints row kept trying to 1 up itself so much that it turned into a a dumb scifi game.
This video and the one before it are a most excellent analysis of this game series and I really think you are delivering some amazing reviews stepping away from GTA as your main focus. I'm hyped to see what you produce with other games and other genres in the future. The editing is fun, fast and on point, never slows to let your attention wander and the in depth analysis of the game as a whole is thorough and concise. A GTA youtuber going multigame? I never thought I'd see the day. Good job and keep it up man.
Keep good.
Imo SR3 and 4 isn't bad per se.
It's a good one. It's just simply a bad sequel to what is already a great series
It's about time someone said it.
Tbh, Monica Hughes looked mad different back in Saints Row 2
finally someone who agrees with me ive been saying this since god damn release 2 was peak
Yo!
On Jesus I agree
There's other youtubers who have said that since The Third's release, mate.
@@Merlaut715 not op but point me to em, I wanna watch em
3 was fine. It had soul and was right in its comfort zone. 4 was way too much.
for me saint row 3 is the last saint row and johnny gat death is the real canon for me
also saving shaundi is the real canon ending and boom!!! thats the real end for saint row franchise
and i pretend saint row 4,5,AoM,and saint row 2022 did not exist in this world
As a kid I liked 3 and 4 didn’t know people hated these games, tbf I haven’t played them since I was a kid so I don’t really remember the games too much but I enjoyed them back then and I played 1 and 2 before 3
This Video is a masterpiece it really needs more attention
There's a bit of reason behind killing him first. it's like daredevil. If kingpin is taken out every low level ganster and crew will be hunting for the top spot. This making the saints fight a free for all rather then having a 1v3b gang fight they'd realistically lose
Saints Row The Third is great. The reboot is really really bad