myboy051 it’s not fancy boomboom hairtrick or well sponsored fabrication that pulls subs and views. It’s just the real deal that matters, but it’s rather boring for the masses! People want entertainment, but i only bring the facts, hence low numbers.. 🤷🏻♂️
Agree, and in a year it will be at least 30k... when more find out... lot of diy builders love this (like us) but dont know about it yet... Great content is valuable (especially for us), but masses dont want real SQ... they even dont have the right hearing, and taste..... Yes, we are special 😆😎
Man, sub par work is not even confined just to car audio, its everywhere within the automotive sphere. Its so fucking hard find someone who legitimately knows whats going on and is willing to go the extra step, do a really good job and achieve what the customer wants, even for the basic boring stuff like getting a service or a component replacement. Ive seen and experienced enough repeated below average workmanship that its led me down the path of attempting to do everything myself as much as possible. Even if some of my worst work does turn out average, i only have myself to blame and id rather that than waste hundred of dollars paying someone else to do the same thing to a same or worse standard. Like the M5 owner, i almost flat out dont trust anyone anymore. Enough ranting, i really enjoy your videos Peter, youre clearly the real deal and we are all very lucky that you are willing to share your knowledge/passion with us.
I agree, and I am really glad and thankfull that Peter is willing to share his knowledge like this. Its great to learn more from someone who knows his stuff and is willing to learn & try more for future improvement and is clearly also passionate about it.
Man I swear I want to ship my next build to you from Los Angeles. I’m learning so much from your insights and attention to all the details that I no longer have faith in any of the shops out here. 🤭
The states have some very good installers and tuners. You have to do some research. I understand that they may not be right next door but most of the time the drive is worth it.
Innovations Photography LLC indeed, there are great shops out there for sure, although you wouldn’t be the first to plan to put their cars in a shipping container! 😃
@Innovations Photography LLC Where in L.A. are you? Me (Billy) and a buddy (Bryan) own & operate a Grip Truck and Grip & Lighting Equipment Rental company in Pasadena (BB GRIP, LLC). I'm a still photographer & Gaffer/Lighting designer for still photography and TV commercials/film/video. I also have several very High-End car audio systems and can help you tune if needed. I've been in this game A LONG TIME...since the early 90's. If you are anywhere near Torrance, CA, look up *Jim Becker* (his user name on the DIYMA forums is "BigRed". He has a Facebook page as well. He is a realtor in the SoCal area but is also a World Champion MECA SQ competitor and a Master Tuner. One of the best tuners I know. Contact Billy (me) via Email at bbfoto (AT) hotmail (DOT) com
Becker doesn't do installs, he just does tune's. There are some very good builders in so cal that have installs/tunes/customers that compete in meca. Your best bet is to visit a meca SQ event and chat with the guys there, some do installs and compete, some just compete with a builds from a shop. I won't recommend a specific shop because that's just a bias of my own.
It seems the audiophiles are a bit camera shy! Perhaps we will get a cameo appearance from the owner of the BMW? It's nice to here the happy owner's thoughts. Nice touch showing before and after tuning Peter. Another excellent video!
💯 Peter finding a shop that does a decent installation is the big problem!! Plus most only want to sell their equipment and not entertain some equipment you already have. I understand warranty issues but as car audio shops are thin on the ground us folk with pre bought equipment are left out. Rant over, But loving the informative tuning video, see you soon lol
@Jeff3 It depends on where you live. The best place to ask IMO is on one of the better Car Audio Forums or Facebook Groups where a decent amount of actual SQ competitors hang out. They are usually more than happy to refer you to a legit shop or installer. There are just a handful of great installers in each locale, and the SQ competitors in the respective areas always know who the best shops and installers are. Of course, many of them do their own install and fabrication work as well. It's only fair to expect a shop to charge you a bit more for an install if you are not also buying the equipment from them...they have to adjust their pricing to account for the loss of equipment sales. They are a BUSINESS afterall and have HEAPS of EXPENSES to pay that you can't even imagine just to keep the doors open! You also cannot expect them to guarantee their work or your install because they have NO IDEA of the Quality and Condition of YOUR personal gear! You might have bought used or refurbished gear at a great deal, but it is untested. Amplifiers that have been sitting around a long time (or any electronics) can go bad just due to capacitors drying out and shorting internally, which may BLOW UP your nice, brand new, expensive component speakers or subwoofer(s)! If it's YOUR equipment that caused the damage, why should they be responsible to replace the other gear that was damaged, whether they sold it to you or not??? Your RCA cables could be pinched and shorted out, or the wrong type of RCAs for the type of equipment that is used... Their is a specific difference between "twisted pair" and "coax shielded" type RCA interconnect cables and what equipment it should be used with. When a shop uses equipment that they sell, they Know and Trust those products, and they know exactly what to expect from them, and what works together and what Does Not. They also know that the manufacturer will BACK THEM UP if there is a problem or issue. They are taking quite a gamble when using "your" equipment. If You OR The Shop is on a tight schedule with a DEADLINE to meet for the install, and just ONE piece of your personal supplied equipment does not work or ends up not being compatible with the setup, then EVERYTHING comes to a HALT and that schedule and your completed system gets thrown out the window until a solution is discussed and agreed upon! You have to realize that YOU are not their ONLY customer and they most likely have a tight schedule, with multiple deadlines, and have already promised installs for many other paying customers on their calendar. I get it, because I'm a DIY'er mostly and have A LOT of my own gear already. But what I discussed above is a real issue for shops that really does cost them time, money, and frustration. And it can result in a bad experience for both of you. Shops work on very small margins, and time is money like with any business. For many shops, it's not worth the risk or frustration.
@@bbfoto7248 Much appreciated @bb foto, will have a look and see of any, already on Talk Audio so will start there. Doing some my install myself, amp rack and sound deadening but radio installation is above my ability. So rather pay to have it properly installed. Hopefully Peter @pssound will be tuning the system.
Im glad you do this kind of videos. Cause Ive gone through that path of paying lots of money to a supposedly hi-end audio profesional installer, not be happy with the sound and have lots of issues with the install. Fortunately, Ive found a proper installer that I can trust. He transformed how my car sounds, he went through everything and explained me everything. But its sad that lots of people will still be cheated by very flashy installers that just want your money.
reset1101 ohh so you’re in Spain? Yeah man, Spain & France as well struggle with good shops as i hear from many people! We tend to drive down to Northern Spain at normal (non-Covid) times for a little break. We should make an SQ meet next i’m down that way! 👌💪🔊🔊
@@pssound9749 Turns out I live in Northern Spain, so Id be sooooo down for an SQ meet when world is a little less crazy. I have no social media, how could I know when that SQ meet would happen?
Another great video pete! Speaking as a proud owner of a pssound install, the whole experience as well as the end result (it will never end 😂) has been exciting and enjoyable! Do youre homework before committing! Meets are great and educational too! Thanks for sharing 👌👍
Using audiocontrol dsp here. Its a graphic eq so its limited in adjustments and having some peaks and dips I cant do anything about like this system, but not much I can do but loving how it sounds.
OMG i also had a pair of EQT's and a 24XS active crossover. Back then that was almost the best of the best and if it was tuned properly it was playing very well although there was no time alignment. I exactly know what he is talking about :)
Indeed, I also had some EQT's 18yrs ago and although it was fun, the sound it "had" was not audiophile enough for me... (every component has a certain sound & takes reality away...) So my own built crossovers with high end parts sounded a lot better... but it took a long time tuning!... with aiming kickpanels and so... And meanwhile playing with ceramic Accuton drivers at home that were the new big deal back then 😄
@PSsound Great video, Peter! It is SO TRUE! There are actually A LOT of great car audio "Installers" and "Fabricators" and good "install" shops if you do your research. HOWEVER... *VERY FEW* of them have someone on staff that also TRUELY UNDERSTANDS how to tune PROPERLY!!! Like you, I have a great high-end system at home that I really enjoy as well. But we all spend A LOT of time in our vehicles, especially here in SoCal/Los Angeles which has minimal public transportation services compared to other cities and countries. It's IMPORTANT to be able to enjoy that time as much as possible in our vehicles, especially if it's in sh!tty traffic!!! A great car audio INSTALL with a DSP is WORTHLESS without a PROPER TUNE!!! You should post more of these "BEFORE AND AFTER" videos!
From my experience. People listen to friends cars or whoever to get a sound baseline. Not realizing those cars sound like SH!T.Never hearing a really properly tuned system at all. Here in USA all they want is 🔊🔊🔊 & more 🔊. I ❤ my 🔊 too but I hv to hv a balanced system. That's what I learned,that's what I preach & I trust my ears.Just sound better. SQ is a past artform.So glad I found your channel. ✌
Yes Peter did the same thing to my e92 bmw a few weeks ago and I can confirm that the sound difference was dramatically improved just by tuning my DSP Great job
Looking forward to my tune next week. I nearly fell out with the install, Focal MBZ speakers were just shit. Moved to some GZ stuff as I didn't want to be beaten by the build, and it's much better. Now off to Peter to see what a proper tune looks like.
I love your videos i have a 04 Chrysler 300m started my build i stripped the trunk bare to sound deaden then im doing the doors. I know the car is old but its in mint condition not many miles. I wish i had you to tune it when im finished. I don't know if you have time to read everyone's comments.
I really love the sweet SQ, but I also like to crank the bass up to 11 every now and again to really *_feel_* the lows. Building and tuning a system is... well, it's complicated! 😂
I use correlated and uncorrelated pink noise at given times. As i mentioned somewhere in one of the comments before, I’m working on a program where people will have 2 packages for online remote tuning: 1. 1 days job, where no explanation is given, i just get the job done with remote access. 2. A 2 day course where people get explanation & hence training, so they’ll understand better the whole process. These options will come with different prices though, likely £350 & £1000, which maybe sound much, but even if i charged 3x more, it would be still worth it for most people.
Hey Peter another awesome video. Love the channel. Attention to detail, dedication, and your motivation. Great stuff. True Sq. Inquiry; I've got 8 channels to work with (not incl sub) and getting a dsp shortly- following exactly what I've learned from you. BUT, I might need to break the rules a bit... My midrange & tweeters are on the same channels with passive cross (crossovers were chosen according to the 'flat' speaker freq responses,not just random crossovers) 😉 - Is it okay to retain that with a dsp? I know it kind of defeats the purpose. But I need the other 2 channels for my rear fill. If that makes sense. (4 channel a/b with channel 1&2 doing midrange/tweeter left and right.. And channel 3/4 doing rear fill left and right) or should I defeat rear fill in order to separate mid/tweet? Reply or no reply; thank you so much! If only you knew how much I've learned!
@myboy051 @Pssound You can create your own Correlated and Uncorrelated Pink Noise, Sine Waves, and other custom test tones using the REW program. In the menu at the top, look for "Generate" IIRC. For Android devices there is an app called *Function Generator* that is excellent. For iOS devices use the * Tone Generator Ultra* app...or just search, there are a bunch of them. www.4pocketsaudio.com/product.php?p=11 Here's a link to a DIYMA forum thread I started with Links to a lot of Test Tone sources... www.diymobileaudio.com/threads/test-tones-test-setup-track-repository-please-contribute-tracks-techniques.416219/ NOTE: It's always advisable to use Lossless, Uncompressed WAV or AIFF files for any type of test tone. For instance, most MP3 Codecs & converters have High- and Low-Shelf filters applied and also create artifacts in the otherwise pure signal.
@@bbfoto7248 - I’ve always had tone generator. I had to purchase the pink , white , brown noise portion for $2.99. I always use the app for setting gains with my oscilloscope.
Peter I have two presets that measure almost identically in REW frequency domain however they sound completely different. One has a focused center image, the other preset has a diffuse sound. It was by luck I got it to sound this way using a head unit time alignment preset. Is there a way I can see why the timing is so off? Using the impulse response function in REW maybe?
Ashton Murch i would also look into how you measure frequency response, what mic technique and settings before you can trust what u see. Also, time alignment, doing tuning steps in the right order, using the right noise tracks at the right time...very complex and easy to go wrong! This is why I’m planning 2 packages for online remote tuning. 👌
I have the same problem like this guy with the speakers. I have upgraded to the helix p six dsp mk2 and I have AudioSystem hx speakers 2ohms and dust tweeters. But no matter what i do I'm not able to have a decent Soundstage and not lose so much from volume level. and i don't know here in Germany where could i tune it. 😭
Pedro Luis Castrejon Diego deadening on sheet metal, then closed cell foam in different thickness and if someone is mad, then i use mass loaded vinyl on flat surfaces too.
The Pareto Principle, I believe, is worth mentioning. A $20k system is not going to sound 10x better than a $2k system. You can have a very enjoyable experience for a reasonable price IF you have a good installer. The problem is [at least in my area] many car audio shops are full of minimum wage workers with a year of experience but no education or training and they are often drug addicts. I’d say 9/10 people I meet have improperly installed systems and a “never again” attitude. I’m probably one of them. I’ve given thousands for a professional install to be finished in 2 weeks, just to find 5 weeks later they had 30% done and it was crap quality. I’m not sure why the car audio industry is so attractive to hooligans, but maybe it’s because of the cheap and misleading nature of manufacturers attracting the wrong kind of customers. I can’t even trust T/S parameters to be accurate or even published by the majority of “popular” brands. I say bring me your crap gear and I’ll make it sound good (maybe not quite as good as Peter), but rarely do people believe it after so many bad experiences.
Great to hear the comparisons of old and new setting.
I can’t believe Peter doesn’t have more then 8k subs. Those that haven’t watched him are missing out.
myboy051 it’s not fancy boomboom hairtrick or well sponsored fabrication that pulls subs and views. It’s just the real deal that matters, but it’s rather boring for the masses! People want entertainment, but i only bring the facts, hence low numbers.. 🤷🏻♂️
@@pssound9749 I think you deserve more subs as well. I guess the whole internet only has 8.02K smart people :) Keep doing what you are doing Peter!
Agree, and in a year it will be at least 30k... when more find out... lot of diy builders love this (like us) but dont know about it yet... Great content is valuable (especially for us), but masses dont want real SQ... they even dont have the right hearing, and taste..... Yes, we are special 😆😎
Man, sub par work is not even confined just to car audio, its everywhere within the automotive sphere. Its so fucking hard find someone who legitimately knows whats going on and is willing to go the extra step, do a really good job and achieve what the customer wants, even for the basic boring stuff like getting a service or a component replacement. Ive seen and experienced enough repeated below average workmanship that its led me down the path of attempting to do everything myself as much as possible. Even if some of my worst work does turn out average, i only have myself to blame and id rather that than waste hundred of dollars paying someone else to do the same thing to a same or worse standard. Like the M5 owner, i almost flat out dont trust anyone anymore.
Enough ranting, i really enjoy your videos Peter, youre clearly the real deal and we are all very lucky that you are willing to share your knowledge/passion with us.
I agree, and I am really glad and thankfull that Peter is willing to share his knowledge like this. Its great to learn more from someone who knows his stuff and is willing to learn & try more for future improvement and is clearly also passionate about it.
Peter. Definition of a cool, laid back perfectionist.
The key to a good car set up is preparation, planning, research and a good installer like Peter.. You can either pay once or pay twice in this game..
Man I swear I want to ship my next build to you from Los Angeles. I’m learning so much from your insights and attention to all the details that I no longer have faith in any of the shops out here. 🤭
The states have some very good installers and tuners. You have to do some research. I understand that they may not be right next door but most of the time the drive is worth it.
Innovations Photography LLC indeed, there are great shops out there for sure, although you wouldn’t be the first to plan to put their cars in a shipping container! 😃
@Innovations Photography LLC
Where in L.A. are you? Me (Billy) and a buddy (Bryan) own & operate a Grip Truck and Grip & Lighting Equipment Rental company in Pasadena (BB GRIP, LLC). I'm a still photographer & Gaffer/Lighting designer for still photography and TV commercials/film/video.
I also have several very High-End car audio systems and can help you tune if needed. I've been in this game A LONG TIME...since the early 90's.
If you are anywhere near Torrance, CA, look up *Jim Becker* (his user name on the DIYMA forums is "BigRed". He has a Facebook page as well. He is a realtor in the SoCal area but is also a World Champion MECA SQ competitor and a Master Tuner. One of the best tuners I know.
Contact Billy (me) via Email at bbfoto (AT) hotmail (DOT) com
bb foto awesome 👏🏽 good to know, I’ll look him up.
Becker doesn't do installs, he just does tune's. There are some very good builders in so cal that have installs/tunes/customers that compete in meca. Your best bet is to visit a meca SQ event and chat with the guys there, some do installs and compete, some just compete with a builds from a shop. I won't recommend a specific shop because that's just a bias of my own.
9:37 was the exact moment that I've decided to purchase a DSP lol
It seems the audiophiles are a bit camera shy! Perhaps we will get a cameo appearance from the owner of the BMW? It's nice to here the happy owner's thoughts. Nice touch showing before and after tuning Peter. Another excellent video!
Your videos always put a smile on my face!!! Great video a always Peter. 👏
Yeah ,guys I agree, sometimes I just get in my car ,put some really good music, and drive to escape, forsure ,being a audiofile !!!
hi Peter from Pssound! cograts for the 8k! many more to come!
lekvaroskilincs thanks Brother! ☺️😘
💯 Peter finding a shop that does a decent installation is the big problem!! Plus most only want to sell their equipment and not entertain some equipment you already have. I understand warranty issues but as car audio shops are thin on the ground us folk with pre bought equipment are left out.
Rant over, But loving the informative tuning video, see you soon lol
@Jeff3
It depends on where you live. The best place to ask IMO is on one of the better Car Audio Forums or Facebook Groups where a decent amount of actual SQ competitors hang out.
They are usually more than happy to refer you to a legit shop or installer. There are just a handful of great installers in each locale, and the SQ competitors in the respective areas always know who the best shops and installers are.
Of course, many of them do their own install and fabrication work as well.
It's only fair to expect a shop to charge you a bit more for an install if you are not also buying the equipment from them...they have to adjust their pricing to account for the loss of equipment sales.
They are a BUSINESS afterall and have HEAPS of EXPENSES to pay that you can't even imagine just to keep the doors open!
You also cannot expect them to guarantee their work or your install because they have NO IDEA of the Quality and Condition of YOUR personal gear!
You might have bought used or refurbished gear at a great deal, but it is untested. Amplifiers that have been sitting around a long time (or any electronics) can go bad just due to capacitors drying out and shorting internally, which may BLOW UP your nice, brand new, expensive component speakers or subwoofer(s)! If it's YOUR equipment that caused the damage, why should they be responsible to replace the other gear that was damaged, whether they sold it to you or not???
Your RCA cables could be pinched and shorted out, or the wrong type of RCAs for the type of equipment that is used... Their is a specific difference between "twisted pair" and "coax shielded" type RCA interconnect cables and what equipment it should be used with.
When a shop uses equipment that they sell, they Know and Trust those products, and they know exactly what to expect from them, and what works together and what Does Not. They also know that the manufacturer will BACK THEM UP if there is a problem or issue.
They are taking quite a gamble when using "your" equipment.
If You OR The Shop is on a tight schedule with a DEADLINE to meet for the install, and just ONE piece of your personal supplied equipment does not work or ends up not being compatible with the setup, then EVERYTHING comes to a HALT and that schedule and your completed system gets thrown out the window until a solution is discussed and agreed upon!
You have to realize that YOU are not their ONLY customer and they most likely have a tight schedule, with multiple deadlines, and have already promised installs for many other paying customers on their calendar.
I get it, because I'm a DIY'er mostly and have A LOT of my own gear already. But what I discussed above is a real issue for shops that really does cost them time, money, and frustration. And it can result in a bad experience for both of you.
Shops work on very small margins, and time is money like with any business. For many shops, it's not worth the risk or frustration.
@@bbfoto7248
Much appreciated @bb foto, will have a look and see of any, already on Talk Audio so will start there. Doing some my install myself, amp rack and sound deadening but radio installation is above my ability. So rather pay to have it properly installed.
Hopefully Peter @pssound will be tuning the system.
Im glad you do this kind of videos. Cause Ive gone through that path of paying lots of money to a supposedly hi-end audio profesional installer, not be happy with the sound and have lots of issues with the install. Fortunately, Ive found a proper installer that I can trust. He transformed how my car sounds, he went through everything and explained me everything. But its sad that lots of people will still be cheated by very flashy installers that just want your money.
reset1101 can you share the name of your man? 😎
@@pssound9749 Sure. Shop is called Dalmau Car Audio. Its located in Zaragoza, Spain. And Pepe, the owner, is a magician.
reset1101 ohh so you’re in Spain? Yeah man, Spain & France as well struggle with good shops as i hear from many people!
We tend to drive down to Northern Spain at normal (non-Covid) times for a little break. We should make an SQ meet next i’m down that way! 👌💪🔊🔊
@@pssound9749 Turns out I live in Northern Spain, so Id be sooooo down for an SQ meet when world is a little less crazy. I have no social media, how could I know when that SQ meet would happen?
reset1101 i guess i would share a little video about then! 😃
Another great video pete! Speaking as a proud owner of a pssound install, the whole experience as well as the end result (it will never end 😂) has been exciting and enjoyable! Do youre homework before committing! Meets are great and educational too! Thanks for sharing 👌👍
Gary Orford ohh your Vectra has moved up so much and is so much fun now! 😎😎🔊🔊
Using audiocontrol dsp here. Its a graphic eq so its limited in adjustments and having some peaks and dips I cant do anything about like this system, but not much I can do but loving how it sounds.
OMG i also had a pair of EQT's and a 24XS active crossover. Back then that was almost the best of the best and if it was tuned properly it was playing very well although there was no time alignment. I exactly know what he is talking about :)
Indeed, I also had some EQT's 18yrs ago and although it was fun, the sound it "had" was not audiophile enough for me... (every component has a certain sound & takes reality away...) So my own built crossovers with high end parts sounded a lot better... but it took a long time tuning!... with aiming kickpanels and so... And meanwhile playing with ceramic Accuton drivers at home that were the new big deal back then 😄
Wow massive difference, nice
I always watch to the end🙃
@PSsound
Great video, Peter!
It is SO TRUE! There are actually A LOT of great car audio "Installers" and "Fabricators" and good "install" shops if you do your research.
HOWEVER... *VERY FEW* of them have someone on staff that also TRUELY UNDERSTANDS how to tune PROPERLY!!!
Like you, I have a great high-end system at home that I really enjoy as well. But we all spend A LOT of time in our vehicles, especially here in SoCal/Los Angeles which has minimal public transportation services compared to other cities and countries.
It's IMPORTANT to be able to enjoy that time as much as possible in our vehicles, especially if it's in sh!tty traffic!!!
A great car audio INSTALL with a DSP is WORTHLESS without a PROPER TUNE!!!
You should post more of these "BEFORE AND AFTER" videos!
bb foto unfortunately a phone recording can not give the drastic difference back, but hopefully it helps to send the message out! 👌
From my experience. People listen to friends cars or whoever to get a sound baseline. Not realizing those cars sound like SH!T.Never hearing a really properly tuned system at all. Here in USA all they want is 🔊🔊🔊 & more 🔊. I ❤ my 🔊 too but I hv to hv a balanced system. That's what I learned,that's what I preach & I trust my ears.Just sound better. SQ is a past artform.So glad I found your channel. ✌
Yes Peter did the same thing to my e92 bmw a few weeks ago and I can confirm that the sound difference was dramatically improved just by tuning my DSP
Great job
Lenny more people have to witness that type of A-B comparison! 😃
This is a great one. Thumbs up :)
Looking forward to my tune next week. I nearly fell out with the install, Focal MBZ speakers were just shit. Moved to some GZ stuff as I didn't want to be beaten by the build, and it's much better. Now off to Peter to see what a proper tune looks like.
That’ll be proper transformation! 😎
Nice jackup there. Great vid.
Goes from boring to exciting good video as allways.
I love your videos i have a 04 Chrysler 300m started my build i stripped the trunk bare to sound deaden then im doing the doors. I know the car is old but its in mint condition not many miles. I wish i had you to tune it when im finished. I don't know if you have time to read everyone's comments.
MrCountmein3 there is a Chrysler 300C i worked on before, check out the playlist. 👌😃
I really love the sweet SQ, but I also like to crank the bass up to 11 every now and again to really *_feel_* the lows.
Building and tuning a system is... well, it's complicated! 😂
Do u use uncorreleted pink noise for tunning? or sweeps?
By the way love your builds you're the best!
I use correlated and uncorrelated pink noise at given times. As i mentioned somewhere in one of the comments before, I’m working on a program where people will have 2 packages for online remote tuning: 1. 1 days job, where no explanation is given, i just get the job done with remote access. 2. A 2 day course where people get explanation & hence training, so they’ll understand better the whole process. These options will come with different prices though, likely £350 & £1000, which maybe sound much, but even if i charged 3x more, it would be still worth it for most people.
Love it, thank u!
I’d still love to see some kind of time alignment video with graphs. Good time alignment vs bad.
Hey Peter another awesome video. Love the channel. Attention to detail, dedication, and your motivation. Great stuff. True Sq.
Inquiry; I've got 8 channels to work with (not incl sub) and getting a dsp shortly- following exactly what I've learned from you. BUT, I might need to break the rules a bit... My midrange & tweeters are on the same channels with passive cross (crossovers were chosen according to the 'flat' speaker freq responses,not just random crossovers) 😉 - Is it okay to retain that with a dsp? I know it kind of defeats the purpose. But I need the other 2 channels for my rear fill. If that makes sense. (4 channel a/b with channel 1&2 doing midrange/tweeter left and right.. And channel 3/4 doing rear fill left and right) or should I defeat rear fill in order to separate mid/tweet?
Reply or no reply; thank you so much! If only you knew how much I've learned!
Oh, I just saw the BMw e91 video with 'semi-active'
Answered the question. Thanks!
Yes, just wanted to suggest that one for you! 😉😃🔊🔊
Got my sounddigital evo 8k, !!!
Dennis Walker have fun with it! 🔊🔊🤘
What would you suggest to improve on the Morel 8"?Considering space limitations.
K Hunigan nothing, it worked well.
Hi again Peter, what app or source would you recommend for pink noise white noise etc ? I don’t have a CD player in my head unit .
myboy051 literally any source does the job, but you’ll need correlated and uncorrelated pink noise files.
@myboy051
@Pssound
You can create your own Correlated and Uncorrelated Pink Noise, Sine Waves, and other custom test tones using the REW program. In the menu at the top, look for "Generate" IIRC.
For Android devices there is an app called *Function Generator* that is excellent. For iOS devices use the * Tone Generator Ultra* app...or just search, there are a bunch of them.
www.4pocketsaudio.com/product.php?p=11
Here's a link to a DIYMA forum thread I started with Links to a lot of Test Tone sources...
www.diymobileaudio.com/threads/test-tones-test-setup-track-repository-please-contribute-tracks-techniques.416219/
NOTE: It's always advisable to use Lossless, Uncompressed WAV or AIFF files for any type of test tone. For instance, most MP3 Codecs & converters have High- and Low-Shelf filters applied and also create artifacts in the otherwise pure signal.
@@bbfoto7248 - I’ve always had tone generator. I had to purchase the pink , white , brown noise portion for $2.99. I always use the app for setting gains with my oscilloscope.
Peter I have two presets that measure almost identically in REW frequency domain however they sound completely different. One has a focused center image, the other preset has a diffuse sound. It was by luck I got it to sound this way using a head unit time alignment preset. Is there a way I can see why the timing is so off? Using the impulse response function in REW maybe?
Ashton Murch i would also look into how you measure frequency response, what mic technique and settings before you can trust what u see.
Also, time alignment, doing tuning steps in the right order, using the right noise tracks at the right time...very complex and easy to go wrong!
This is why I’m planning 2 packages for online remote tuning. 👌
Hi! What do you think about new UMIK-2?
Александр Карпов not much yet, i’d have to try it!
I have the same problem like this guy with the speakers. I have upgraded to the helix p six dsp mk2 and I have AudioSystem hx speakers 2ohms and dust tweeters. But no matter what i do I'm not able to have a decent Soundstage and not lose so much from volume level. and i don't know here in Germany where could i tune it. 😭
mariouslm where do u live in Germany?
@@pssound9749 i live in Stuttgart
Hi peter, which is the insulator that you uses?
Pedro Luis Castrejon Diego insulator for what?
@@pssound9749 in general doors,floor,trunk.
Pedro Luis Castrejon Diego deadening on sheet metal, then closed cell foam in different thickness and if someone is mad, then i use mass loaded vinyl on flat surfaces too.
Pete so funny you said the. when I'm getting on my kid's nerves. they tell me the same thing. dad why don't you watch peter from pssound.
Why don’t you or why do you? 😃
@@pssound9749 I do. I love your videos pete. I they to show them the magic you do. To see if they want to become installers when they grow up.
Which Morel sub is this?
UKBlue407 8” Ultimo i believe.
The Pareto Principle, I believe, is worth mentioning. A $20k system is not going to sound 10x better than a $2k system. You can have a very enjoyable experience for a reasonable price IF you have a good installer. The problem is [at least in my area] many car audio shops are full of minimum wage workers with a year of experience but no education or training and they are often drug addicts. I’d say 9/10 people I meet have improperly installed systems and a “never again” attitude. I’m probably one of them. I’ve given thousands for a professional install to be finished in 2 weeks, just to find 5 weeks later they had 30% done and it was crap quality. I’m not sure why the car audio industry is so attractive to hooligans, but maybe it’s because of the cheap and misleading nature of manufacturers attracting the wrong kind of customers. I can’t even trust T/S parameters to be accurate or even published by the majority of “popular” brands. I say bring me your crap gear and I’ll make it sound good (maybe not quite as good as Peter), but rarely do people believe it after so many bad experiences.
It is not "Porsh" it is PorshE :)
Kiklop haha i know, but we live in UK! 😃🤣