@@TacticalRuse "Why aren't you eating the food I make? Why are you being a picky eater?" These are words parents (especially Asians) would usually say if their child suddenly stops eating or eats less than regular. Eating habits are learned and picked up. Children can say no, but they won't say no. Because what kid will say no to being given food? Unless the parents show them the importance of having a healthy diet, children will assume what they're eating is just normal.
@@TacticalRuse Obviously parents who send kids to these sort of program means that they are trying to undo the damage they've done. But why not do it themselves? Put the children on a diet and an exercise routine? Why not be an example to the children? Well, it could probably be that the parent's eating habits are the same as the children. And some parents that are shown just want to correct their children's diet, not their own. In the video, it is also mentioned that one of the contestant's parents is even "more concerned for his son's happiness than health". They might not be mad at the children going on a diet, but they played a part in causing it.
@@TacticalRuse and again, that's on adult supervision. Whoever is looking after them plays a huge role in making sure how the children's lifestyle is. Regardless if the kid is staying with a parent or grandparent.
@@zulaikahsigam8325 to be fair though there is also somewhat of a generational difference. Most Chinese people did not live with so much available food to them up until recently. I know my grandparents and my parents generation struggled with having enough food during the winter. So when they encourage eating, there are also historical reasons behind it I think.
@@kaixinxu5154 my mom's Chinese and I understand the historical significance in why they do so. It's related to the mindset of eat now cause you might not know when you can eat again. I'm not saying it in an ignorant way. I'm just explaining to the previous commentor to why they're blaming the kids and not holding the adults accountable for overfeeding them.
I don't wanna butcher his name because I don't speak Chinese - the twelve year old is such a sweet person. How he talks about his family is very heart-warming. I hope he's doing good.
How can that kid's dad give his son all the food he wants to eat and then punish him for gettin fat! He was overweight since he was six!! Little kids only eat what you give them
I don’t think the father is trying to punish him. From his perspective the camp is a necessity in order for his son to have a healthy and longer lasting life. I think this camp won’t help a majority of the people who participate for various reasons but I truly think the father is doing what he thinks is best.
@@colinsmith1495 The type of dieting the camp implements encourages binge eating so it’s no surprise he gained all the weight back. As it runs now, the majority of those who attend will have short term results. What these kids need is guidance on overall lifestyle changes (including how to integrate exercise into their regular schedules) and knowledge about the food they’re consuming.
I know it sounds crude to compare, but I think the same thing about friends with very overweight pets. They almost make me want to slap some sense into them. They act helpless and confused. They talk about the problem frequently. I hold my tongue because I just don't understand.
Do you notice, kids aren't riding bikes? I believe, bikes came out, right before cars. When kids had to ride horses, no one was fat except the very rich The Wright brothers were bike makers Before they invented flight
That little 12 year old boy touched my heart. He's trying to be positive even though he clearly wants to talk to his mother and misses his family very much. ♥
I just wanna say that no matter what remember that the most important part of weight loss is to do it safely. I was overweight and was told that I must lose weight. I followed an extremely strict diet (800 kcals a day, no dairy, no sugar, no meat) and exercised non stop. It worked but I almost killed myself in the process and I permanently damaged my body. When I say this I speak from experience when I say that the most effective weight loss tactic is building healthy habits and learning to love yourself. Do it to better yourself, not just to fit into smaller jeans.
@@joelshajan8706your comment has helped the most and given me a new perspective. I’ve been putting physique first and health last. Maybe that’s why I haven’t stuck with it.
I'm healthy weight and walk a lot daily as I live the city life but 6 hours of exercise a day would absolutely kill me, I would fall into a coma for a week.
When you're the only child in a Chinese family, everyone spoils you. How do they spoil you? Lavish you with food. You go to your maternal grandma's house, they go "did you eat? You must eat!" Then you go to your paternal grandma's house they go "you need to eat all this food I cooked a whole day for you!" I feel bad for the kids at weight loss camp, they're fed to that point and it's not their fault😞
The only child policy ended the issue in Chinese family is that food is the center of everything. People social ize around food, celebrate with food ect
Honestly the subtitles aren’t really that well translated. 13:53 trainer said 回队伍去 which means “get back to your group” and not “get out of my sight” just a heads up cuz the trainers here aren’t really as rude as you might think…
What a lot of people seem to miss surrounding weight loss is that it mostly comes down to diet. People only burn about 600 calories per hour while running whereas simply counting calories and and in some cases drinking more water could help people lose weight without much exercise. Even if its a self improvement, you don't actually have to be muscular to be healthy.
yep exactly. I eat whatever I want and I have lost a lot of weight. No salad diet or having to regret not eating food. I lost so much weight just counting my calories and I get to eat whatever I want.
@@Peacht4n same with me, except I never gained weight, so never had over/underweight issues. Besides minding my consumption amounts I have very high metabolism. But I have always done calorie counting from the getgo. And it's true. You can eat anything from any food group and not having any guilt afterwards when calorie counting. It's the most human diet I think. Others seem to torture people. I also think it's finding the right diet that works for you. Some people it's the physical cardio, some it's more associated with getting your greens in, some people just need to stay clear of the sugary sweets etc.
@@ameliawilder28 when you exercise you can get a faster metabolism which wld allow u to eat even more calories. i wouldnt be surprised if at least a few of these ppl who do this for a living exercise to maintain their weight while also eating as much as they do, because these mukbangers do eat well over any recommended calorie amount lol.
"Counting calories" typically means running at a caloric deficit, which is HORRIBLY hard to maintain long term and can have pretty negative metabolic and psychological effects. It may work well for maintaining weight (where you're trying to be calorie neutral), but for weight loss it's not a good idea. Also, realize that 'counting calories' is a VERY inaccurate system, as the calories your body actually takes in and actually spends depend a LOT on efficiency factors which can vary fairly wildly from person to person, food to food, and exercise to exercise. Yes, that food may HAVE 200 calories, but how many did you actually absorb? Yes, the average person may spend 100 calories doing that, but are you average? I encourage everyone to look into the keto diet and the research behind it (one of the few diets with legit scientific studies behind it). The entire idea is to run on a different metabolism, in which your body will naturally burn fat, whether from diet or your reserves (your body).
big respect to people who were once obese/overweight and manage to lose to and get to healthy body weight levels. people don't realize losing weight is one of the hardest things we can do physiologically
@@anthonyvu3231 well, ye, gaining fat is a survival mechanism to store energy for hard times (evolutionary). Its supposed to be gained fast and lost slowly. The only hard thing about it is to stop indulging in overeating
That 12 year old talking about the soul connections with his family is fr one of the most moving inspirational quote i've ever heard, man should be a poet.
I’ve also struggled with being overweight and I can say at least 84% of my weight gain was because of my parents and culture. In my African Culture, we’re told not to waste food and are often body shamed if we don’t eat much. This happened to me. My dad would force me to finish the food on my plate just because “Other people don’t have much” But still there are ways to conquer this like saving the rest of the food for later. And even when I protested against this as a kid, I would only get punished for it. This led me to continue to eat. And when I get fat, I get body shamed. Every-time my family would say I’m fat, I would get depressed and it caused a big binge eating disorder for me. They would see the signs but never do anything much to help me. They would just say “lose weight” and think it’s enough when I don’t even know what to do to lose weight. No one ever taught me. Now that I’m grown, I’ve decided to block them from my mind because none of their words helped. I’ve started to learn about myself and go on a self love journey to appreciate myself for still being alive. Through that, I’m able to be comfortable with myself and do things not just to lose weight but to live a healthy life style. I’m not doing it for them, I’m doing it for me. I hope you’re not too hard on your self and take things at a good pace. It’s ok if you haven’t lost weight yet. Just keep going and remember “You’re not doing it for them. You’re doing it for you”;)
As a Korean person, I think the same is happening (shown in the video) in South Korea. Yes, it is true that the majority of Chinese people and Korean people are very slim, but there is still a noticeable increase in obesity. In Korea, I feel like the younger generations eat more than their parents, and not all of them get enough exercise due to factors such as school.
@@LZvv96310 i thought that was only in America. Obesity is still a bad thing in the middle east and they will most likely never accept it, as they should
This doc put in perspective finally for me, how fast and harmful corporate food has infested many parts of the world. It all starts with mindset and will, to really make a change for anything in life.
Obesity is a global problem comparable to an epidemic, no kidding. In the last few decades, the only few countries that didn't see an increase in obesity are located in Africa, or the poles. Every other country saw an increase (some more thant others, still).
Im with everyone else saying that 12 year old is probably one of the best humans ive ever seen in any situation. What a genuinely wholesome little dude
Wait till you start hearing about how such speech is how we were taught to speak and memorise since we can first speak. The combination of respect others will give to their parents and encouragement they gain from this further motivates Chinese to embrace this sense of “I have no choice.” mentality. Useful to keep us in line to control… When all of this just boils down to memory work, it’s not longer that impressive. :/ I hope the boy can one day honestly look into his heart and see the pain caused by our Chinese parents and one day heal from their absence and excuses we are taught to excuse them from… 😔
Wasting 5000 EUR for the camp, wow. His son knows that if he needs, his father will just pay for another session and he will be off the hook. Until he really decides to change his lifestyle, no camp will help him.
He does need camp but this camp will not help him long term. Hopefully he will someday find a program that will. Realistically, the son needs to enjoy exercise and eating healthy. None of this depriving them of their family or yelling at them will help.
I think young people are okey watching it, but as you get older ,it kind of gets gross who wants to watch people open their mouth and chew their food like a glutton.
I once weighed 120 kg and now I'm down to 89kg. It was a hard journey and nothing that can be achieved in one month. Those fat camps are not going to lead to the betterment of those kids' situations, you need to change their hearts and minds and make them realize how harmful the food is they consume if you don't they'll never change their habits.
I'm in the same boat as you, I weighed 105 kilos in 2019, I was 19 at the time, I thought to myself this cannot continue otherwise I'd have no quality of life to speak of in the future, so I drastically scaled down my diet and began exercising, I'm sitting at 75 kilo since late 2021 and have been keeping it there. It's a long and difficult journey, and these month-long camps are only gonna help short term.
I was obese back home and it is the stress, although I was born and raised in Beijing for 18 years and it's by far not the most competitive city in China, being a kid growing up is stressful especially with school. As a result I got into stress eating and secret eating, I would hide snacks and wrappers in secret places and eats them alone because of the stress, but at the time I didn't know and I was told it was because I had no self control, which stress me out even more lol. Even many skinny friends I have stress eat but they lean into bulimia, which is dangerous. It was only when I had my mental health sorted out I feel like Im in control of my body and health again, and separating myself from that surrounding by moving across the world.
Oh my goodness that 12 year old boy trying to reach him mother on the phone is the sweetest. What a darling personality, I hope it isn't crushed as he grows up.
Americans: **Are you challenging me?!** But seriously as a 100+ kg (220lb) dude (but over 6tf tall) guy who is no longer morbidly obese I want to say that exercise is not the main factor to losing weight. When spending long periods of time in another country I noticed the portion sizes were completely different to what I considered "normal" which explained why my cousins were way slimer than me. Sleep and as the woman said, quality of food makes the real difference. Fasting works too.
Yup. It's a structural problem with diet being the key issue. Fast food is fast food. Nothing will change that but look at the difference of convenience stores. The quality is night and day between US and other top countries. Grocery stores are few in number in many places (this phenomenon is called a food desert). And because we are a car based society, our urban development is dependent on that. Lack of good public transportation. Suburbia makes it more difficult for transportation of food to be available in cities. Combined the fact with a car based society, food prices gone up as more trucks are required to transport goods between the ever distant farms to city centers. Countries like South Korea and Japan are a fraction of the size of US and yet food prices are quite reasonable. Food in US should actually be cheap. It should be very affordable. A bag of apples should be a dollar. Gallon of milk in cents to no more than 1 dollar. Vegetables should also be under a dollar. Yet a small box of cherry tomatoes cost $5. The only thing that is going for Americans is their meat prices. Hard to beat that in other countries.
@@mintyfresh4855 I agree with everything you said except food prices. Fruits and vegetables are quite cheap on the food desert where I live due to the US relying on immigrat labor for cheap fruits as they can get paid cents for every bag filled or dollars for entire creates or straight up importing them from Mexico (you have to drive quite a bit just to get groceries because I live in a mostly black community) but yes indeed we have a car based society and sedimentary lifestyle. When I lived in Mexico I could taste the difference in food (the chicken and meat had a yellow/pink color because it was killed that day and the plate/glass/bowl portions were totally different. Meat as you said was reserved for special occasions and not for every meal as here in the US. Public transportation was WAAAYYY better than in the US (wierd as the US is the richest country in the world). Walking in Mexico city was alot better than trying to navigate Chicago and there were HUGE parks where people skate/mingle about. The stores were also in places difficult for cars so you are pretty much forced to walk to get around. It took me a while to get used to the food culture of a non US country.
This is not just you. 70 30 rule. Losing weight is about 70% diet 30% exercise. You could exercise all you want but you won't easily lose weight and will gain it right back unless you change your diet.
Omgg i had to stop to comment on that sweet 12year old boy 🥺🥺 when he said « I can see my family without paying for the calls » is soo adorable. I want a sweet kid like him. I hope he stays as radiant and positive in life.
It’s insane to me how deep the corruption of industrialization has gone. We are taught to value work, work, work over our families, our own health, our happiness. Look what it gets us. Children neglected and spoiled, parents pushed by society to take extreme measures when all it really takes is a step back and a few small life changes. It’s also striking to me how, contrary, to what a lot of people believe, America is far from the only country with a massive obesity problem. I’ve just come to this video from another exploring the effects of fast food in Brazil and India, where they have even fewer restrictions on nutrition and the way companies are allowed to market. The world is so corrupt.
I can tell you that yes, it's becoming global phenomenon and it's sad. But it baffles me that industrialisation is that impactful in China. Like it's a communist country, so how are they keeping these fast food centers working while Xi is implementing schemes to reduce food wastage, eat healthy and portion control.
This is an interesting and amazing documentary but I’d like to point out that a lot of things people said were excluded in the translations. Not anything that is too drastic, however, I notice things that make obesity seem less of a negative are cut out. Like when they ask an obese girl if it’s hard for her to walk, she says it’s not too hard it just makes her hot and sweat. They cut out the part where she says that it isn’t too hard. I know that this could just be a translation error or something and I don’t blame them as they may need to cut off some sentences to keep up with their talking speed (reading is slower than talking). Over all, I really liked this documentary]!
In 5 to 10 years it will be very difficult for her, believe me. Even just raising from a seat will be hard work for her. Besides, she will get several health issues such as diabetes and cardiac problems. Prescribing acupuncture and cupping for her serious concerns are just skimming off her money.
the tone of what's being said and what's been subtitled (trailing 2 to 3 sentences behind what's being spoken) is consistently misrepresented to the point that I think it's on purpose, thank god for the narration
It seems like the narrator is trying to make the viewer believe what they think about obesity in China is the truth rather than showing sharing what they discover without any biases
@@ava6416 They are still getting fat. Everywhere in Asia it is the same. Look at Singapore secondary school children, in particular the girls. There is not much difference anymore in between them and US.
the crazy thing is I remember seeing these exact programs and policies and infomercials regarding obesity and child obesity in my country in the mid '00s and early 2010's, with the blame being placed on the rapid growth of fast food companies and an increase in a sedentary lifestyle. If you guessed I'm talking about the USA, you'd be correct.
A friend gave me Accupuncture on the stomach. It felt weird, it had a cooling sensation that was also felt like it was circulating thought out my stomach. Weird part was that my stomach was contacting a bunch during the process. She said it help with detox and fat loss. With acupressure she massaged my stomach but it felt like she was punching my stomach and gut, it hurt a lot that I shed a tear.
Maybe, the problem is they don’t teach the kids a healthy approach to weight lose and thats the reason why the kids can’t maintain the weight they lost. They need a change of mindset and should be taught how to develop good habits in exchange for those bad habits (ex. Eating when bored, instead do a hobby; sewings, reading, or drawing ) I do hope these kids can be successful in their journey. I lost weight when I was 12-13 but the thing is, i’ve been thin my whole life and this time I had a toxic mindset and i’m trying ti get rid of that.
The harsh military is useless when it’s the parents’ fault for giving their kids too much food and tolerating fastfood. It’ll all come back once they’re home.
@@Bobspineable Submissiveness is the opposite of discipline. Discipline is to establish your will against adversity. Submitting to the wannabe-seargant is to abandon your will against adversity. Not being fat shouldn't take discipline. And it doesn't for most fat people as long as they just approach fat-loss in a smart manner (and not like those TV shows).
Weightloss happens in the kitchen, Fitness happens in the gym. Together they are stronger, absolutely, but it is much easier to eat 500kcal less, than to burn 500kcals
This was so insightful and inspiring how disciplined the children are - especially thumbs up to the 12 y/o boy who had such a loving heart towards his mother and family. Wonderful.
I think the rise in obesity ties in with the loneliness epidemic that is heavily increasing in majority developed countries such as China. Food is what brings people together, that’s where I think the main feeling of comfort comes from (as well as the assured feeling that we are fed thus able to survive another day) With the rise of the internet and technology, we are slowly separating ourselves from the concept of socializing, with that, we are using food as a secondary sustenance for something we cannot be without biologically. What I am saying is merely a rough draft of my theory, and I am aware that there are many holes that need fixed. But the mix of loneliness and the predatory behaviors of major fast food companies are definitely key factors.
@@bkopgamer I am Chinese. Descended from a mom who grew up in Shanghai and an Americanized Cantonese dad. Dad was born in 1933 and mom 1949. Mom’s cooking had plenty of starchy items. Wontons. Stir-fry meats necessitated corn starch. If there’s a soup, noodles or rice made it go down better. Glutinous Flour rice pancake(mochi) were sometimes eaten There were some non-starchy foods, like bok choy, fried celery, tofu. Red bean paste was an infrequent snack. It is healthier than say coke, but it’s sugar with beans. I did avoid constant McDonalds, Coca-Cola, etc. Orange juice was a favorite for her to buy. We did eat bad snacks but not every day like some Americans. I wound up getting perio young, as I’m only 33. My 31 year old sis has a 5.7 a1c. I’m six feet 120. Sis is 5’4, 129lbs.
The problem here isn't about weight loss but rather their daily lives have changed since the 80s. Bear in mind that back then, there still existed a solid family unit and time for home-cooked family dinners. Never mind the fact presented that meat is now more readily available but rather the way it is cooked is the key. If you looked at what my family ate back then, I am not a Chinese national, but am ethnic Chinese, it was a combination of meat (beef, chicken, pork), fish, vegetables, and of course, rice. That is par for the course for almost any Chinese family no matter where one is from. The thing that has changed over time is time pressure in our daily lives that has changed our eating habits (it certainly has mine), and I leave it to you to find out where and how it is for you. For me, after I left home to be on my own, I found myself cooking due to time pressure, or not cooking by eating out. What i did cook was easy and fast, usually unhealthy. However, at the time you don't notice it too much because you are active physically etc. It all comes crashing down on you when you get to your late 30s where one starts noticing the changes. Habits like that can be changed. However, what I do not stand for is the shaming of people by the Chinese, in the instance of that lady who got spat upon because of her size, not that she was big. I do not hold with that kind of attitude and it is uncivilised and I am finding, more and more to my chagrin, and to my disbelief, that Chinese nationals are the worst offenders of this kind of thing compared to even their neighbours, Japan and South Korea, who historically and culturally, known for that sort of thing. The lack of responsibility, including from the parents of the children in question, is horrifying. In any case, I think China has a lot of growing up to do before it can overcome this madness and probably become a more moderate nation in every sense of the word.
One thing of note is that this problem isnt just a China problem but a world problem. A long term study done by the Imperial College London found that obesity levels are 10 times higher now than in the previous 40-50 years. I won't go into the study too much but what it does say is that in the past 40 years, some of the highest increases in obesity were found in, notably, East Asian countries (of which China is) and most, if not all, high income English speaking countries, also noting that the Middle East and North Africa have also shown increases in that time.
It's not the fault of the kids, it's the resteraunts and the food. They don't know how much sugar is in it. They're not being taught how to avoid it. They're being punished for nothing. It's not right.
I agree it’s not the kids faults but It is 100% the parents for not educating their children on healthy food choices and restricting how much they eat. Teaching healthy eating habits is so crucial and if it’s lacking in childhood it is extremely hard to develop in adulthood …
@@layray210 The thing is, what makes you think the adults know any better? They're only just getting American foods and they're suffering just as badly as the children.
@@layray210 If children are getting type 2 diabetes at the age of four and five in America how do you expect the Chinese to know any better? We in the west have known about this sugar problem a lot longer than they have and it's not doing our kids any good, at least most of them. Look at the state of our own before knocking theirs. They have only recently got junk food from us.
It's not a punishment, it's a treatment. Regardless of fault the treatment is important. The culture of respect compels one to appreciate a parent's sacrifice. The parent's mistake is not mutually exclusive with respect.
It’s how China’s economy works. It’s a communist country so that means that everyone is being paid equally on minimum wage. There are very few exceptions like politicians.
What I really appreciate from the Chinese is that they aren't always pointing fingers at America, like the British do with their "monkey see monkey do" attitude towards obesity issues. They take responsibility for their issues and that's commendable.
That is another myth. Meat is actually really high in calories, plus almost always heavily seasoned in high sodium and fried in lots of oil and fat. For those looking to diet, unless u cook the meat yourself, and even so only if you can hold back on the seasoning, meat is equally if not worse than starchy food.
@@yivunqp963 Would you care to tell me what is wrong with seasoning? Seasoning is make of vegetables and you actually require salt, if you're talking about salt, you can't live without it. When it comes to meat, fish and eggs, I can assure you that fat will never make you fat, as long as it's not added to anything loaded with sugar. Sugar actually turns into fat in the body as soon as you put it into your mouth. It's dangerous stuff, it's alien to the body, we don't need it , it's rots the teeth for a start and it goes on the rot the liver, the digestive system and if you continues to eat it, it will kill you. Type 2 diabetes, heart disease and stroke. It can also cause blindness, and gangrene causing many people to lose their legs before they die.
@@toni4729 Fat and Meat are both high in calories. Plus salt which you claim we cannot be without. Yes, we need salt, but only in very little amount. Salt seasoning are always over-seasoning. The amount of salt that is healthy is the same for sugar. So sugar is not more evil as you put it.
@@yivunqp963 Sugar; we need none of. Our live can make all the glucose we need all the time. We cannot make salt. We can urinate the salt out that we overeat as it just makes us very thirsty and we will drink water until we do uninate it out. If you make you own food, cook your own food you will have to add salt. It's the junk food that has too much salt added. Fresh meat has no salt in it as the blood has the salt and it's been removed. If you're the type of person that will buy a pizza, for instance you'll find it's loaded with salt and you won't need to add it.
Those poor kids will put all the weight back on and more, and the added psychological damage that they will have is unbearable to imagine . That regime is not sutainable for very long. It justs supports a society to persecute them for being carb sensitive with very high insulin hormone levels, which give them swings in their blood sugar,causing them to eat more. They should have been educated on the benefits of adopting a low carb ketogenic type of diet and long term lifestyle . The extent of your ability to deal with carbs lies in your genes , which is why some people can remain a normal weight without having to starve themelves or excessively exercise throughout their entire lives.
The young woman who works nights and lives on the fifth floor could start walking up and down those stairs for an hour every day. She can just go slowly until she builds up her stamina, and the stairs become easier. Walking those stairs and fasting for at least 20 hours each day and cutting back on some of the fast food will help. Why doesn't anyone at the clinic she visits give her this advice? Isn't some form of fasting a traditional method for managing health in Chinese culture?
Fasting is actually ingrained into most cultures, however traditional values have degraded - including fasting - for a while now especially in developed countries.
Honestly fasting is not good for binge eaters, who eat out of unhappiness. Just leads to more binging. Solution is to find other things in life to feel happy about.
Just wanted to clarify, fasting is not part of Chinese culture. At most, you can consider it a practice among minor religions here. But it's not a known custom and never a widely adopted tradition. Just look at all the Chinese festivals, we FEAST not fast every holiday haha
@@xavierbrown4051 yep I had that problem before I’m now a tad bit over weight BMI wise, my fat % is in the healthy range, my visceral fat is in the healthy range, and my subcutaneous fat is in the normal range. All I aim for now is BMI. But even if I stayed my weight now there’s no health effects and everything is right about where I am happy with. Only issue is my metabolism is one year older than me. I brought that down from like 6 years to 1 years though. I still plan on losing weight
Every culture has their own food traditions, China has very beautiful and delicious traditional foods that can keep you in good health, I hope that in the future people will once more see the value in their traditional foods with these industrial food products seen as only an occasional convenience
It depends on the region. Southern Chinese cuisine (at least for Cantonese cuisine) uses relatively less fat and red meat but more fish, poultry and vegetables, with the major cooking methods being blanching, steaming and broth-type soup; stir-frying is also common but still less oily than deep-frying or roasting (OTOH their desserts and sweet-soups are sugar bombs). In contrast, Northern Chinese cuisine uses far more red meat, oil and appetizing strong spices; roasting and stewing are more popular cooking methods while hot-pot, a popular dish in the North, is not only heavy but also makes people unknowingly eat more as they sit at the table eating and chit-chatting for hours. I know a friend who became visibly fat in just a a few years once he moved from Guangdong to Beijing, even though he is not a fast-food person and only goes to traditional Chinese diners.
I think there's a problem with that 40 days training. I had a friend who did it every year, he'd come back from it with 15(?) kgs less but in a very short time he'd gain it back. And this happened every year, so it's useless if at home you'll still do whatever you want.
right I think it's a marketing and a money-making scheme more than anything. They don't really teach them how to keep the weight off, so expectantly most people return to the camp, every year, over and over, and these are expensive too.
The problem with most concepts of "dieting" is that we view it as a temporary change to our life style, rather than a permanent change in how we eat. You can't just diet off a certain amount of weight then return to your prior eating habits, that will just return you back to being overweight. If you want a permanent change in your weight, you need a permanent change in the way you eat. Therefore, the focus should not be on extreme and temporary diets, but rather on sustainable changes you can make to your current diet that you will maintain for the rest of your life.
Dude they can only teach you the way to lose/keep weight. You seriously expect the camp to be some magic pill that kills fat for the rest of your life? I think it's more about creating a habit for daily life. Hit n miss thou
Yes, because as they said they never address the root of their overeating. They only make them lose weight in a controlled environment. Without therapy and education, they will likely all return to their unhealthy habits.
Man, this whole thing was very triggering for me. I lost 65 lbs after having two children. My husband is from the Philippines (I know it is not China but their beauty and body standards are similar). Whenever we FaceTime them they always tell me "you look so slim, you are so pretty and skinny, etc). Sure, I like the compliments. I worked hard to lose the weight and have kept it off for 4 years. But also, the obsession with being skinny (don't get me started on how they love my white skin too) is also sad.
Similar attributes indians have as well. 1st thing they comment about is how small or big u are. And that conversation gets carried on to third parties and circle never ends.
@@jai_b Frrr my fam is always calling me fat (I’m not even fat!)& being colorist. I literally have the lightest skin in my family & they are so rude to me bc of my hyperpigmentation. Like bruh it is your genetics that made me this way
It’s not simply about losing weight for beauty, but health issues come in play as well. Obesity can cause high blood pressure, high bad cholesterol, increase chances of a stroke, and all types of heart diseases which is pretty bad, especially in children. Although you’re also right about the beauty standards being wrong and very hurtful to overweight people.
Fun fact: Loosing too much weight can cause things such as muscle loss and fainting, and not loosing enough weight can lead to heart complications. Everything in moderation, even if its undoing something else.
Actually, this happens in Indonesia too. I wonder if there are no sports extracurriculars in china?. I Lost Much Weight because I did swimming and hiking as my extracurricular during my high school time. my teenage age is my golden age lol. I can Swim for 30 minutes without stops and Run 15 km a day. I used to be so active. everything changes after work. anxiety, lack of exercise.
" if you don't stop messing around, we'll end up hating you" jesus christ 😭I'd feel so humiliated and vulnerable if I was spoken to like that as a child trying to lose weight
Omg, how did she eat alllllllll that 1:28? I thought they pretended to eat and edited the footage but she was eating live with everyone watching. It's humanly impossible to eat all that!
The lady who is in charge of the national food program is 100 percent right. My dad used to live in a village during the 70's and they would only have meat on Chinese New Year, even then he mostly just got some soup with a few bones to nibble on. He is kind of lying since he would often go fishing in the nearby streams, but I doubt he could catch a lot of fish with a stick and little dams (sources based on my dad and trust me bro).
Still, the meat is proteins, and if you don't eat greasy pork, but chicken, turkey and fish, how is that fattening? Rather frying on oil everything is a problem? And of course all sorts of additives and taste enhancers plus fast (fried) food.
I think there’s also one more factor in here that a lot of people miss that was in the video : good quality organic produce are sold to UPSCALE restaurants….. this is also bad for people who want to lose weight. The quality of the food also affects the appealing of the food. And the price to which we can access them also affects our ability to have properly diet and nutrition. For instance, if you buy a bad quality carrot, it’s not going to be sweet..it might be bland and slightly bitter aftertaste and can be dry and rubbery. Nice quality carrot is sweet and refreshing and has crispy crunch to it. Of course, price point will ruin it. You’ll pay $8 for about half kilo of quality carrots vs $1.99 for the same amount but low quality.
3:48 bro the creators of this video cut her off while she was talking. At least cut it when she ended a sentence that was just rude and annoying. For those who only speak english, she was about to go in on whatever she was gonna say next. what she said whilst being cut off was "so in a year I..." Either cut out that part or leave in what she was about to say. Its so prominent that you cannot skip pasts it and instantly noticable.
When I was younger, my parents were buying chips, cookies and candy for my siblings and I. But my parents make sure that we eat them from times to times and not everyday. They educate us about the importance of eating healthy food, and enjoying the junk food but they were constantly telling us that it wasn’t good for our health to eat them everyday. I was sitting and watching tv/ playing videos games (I’m still doing it haha) but my parents always have obligated us to stay active. So we were playing outside in the backyard or they were taking us to the park (even during winter we were playing outside). I even remember my parents shutting off the tv and literally picked us up and bring us in the backyard to play with us or helping us finding an activity. So I think a kid can also have his “cheat day” but parents have to make sure that it’s moderate. I was allowed to eat hamburger (peel by my mom or bought from McDonald’s), hot dog, fries. But it’s all about a balance diet. So it’s the parents responsibility to make sure their kids stay active and eat healthy while having some cheat day. But to also educate them about the importance of healthy food. I’m 26 years old today and my siblings and I have the same mindset about food. We know that it’s better to prep our own food instead or eating in the restaurant or ordering because we don’t know what’s in it, we’re mostly drinking water instead of juice, we’re eating healthy meal, we eat carbs, and also a lot of vegetables, and we’re still eating cookies/pastries or candy from times to times. But our body is healthy (same for our parents) and we’re pretty active (jogging together during summertime), playing basketball if we can or doing home workout. *I live in Canada and my parents are immigrants from Guinea (south-west Africa). So eating well is a cultural thing in my country but I’m grateful for my parents to have educate me about a healthy diet.
Yeah I find it more enjoyable because I see it as little treats. and my body is able to know when it’s enough. For exemple, for me and my siblings, when we travelled, we eat junk food for sure but we tell to each others that’s it’s too much and need to eat healthy because we’re starting to feel sick and not well. So we also choose restaurants with healthy options. Also in my family were able to refrain ourself from buying junkfood (it’s not an obligation). Overall we’re able control what we eat which is great :)
Anyone with common sense knows that obesity is harmful to ones body since we all know the problems that comes along with it Old people likes fat kids since that reassures them that the kid eats 3 meals a day
The problem is one of lifestyle. Simple put, we're not moving as much as we used to and we're substituting that with more eating. When I was a kid growing up, in the summers, we ate our breakfast and ran outside to meet our friends. We road our bikes, played round up (basically tag on steroids), road skateboards, all of the typical games. And we knew that if our parents saw us, they'd find some work for us to do, so we never came back home. Sometimes, I'd finally come home at dusk, shaking because I was so hungry and exhausted, but happy. Today, kids spend the overwhelming majority of their time doing what I'm doing right now: social media. Watching youtube or tiktok or something like that. They see outdoor activities as punishment, not fun, which I find nuts. This disconnected virtual lifestyle is also causing an imbalance, causing mental issues and fueling more eating. Finally, the US has done a good job of exporting their fast food lifestyle all around the world. When I was a kid, Asian kids were skiiiiiinnny! Now, they're catching up and are just as big as Americans.
Here in singapore, the government has been trying to tackle this issue as well. They put a lid on the advertising of sweetened drinks like coke and pepsi to stem down diabetes too, which is getting more prevalent in this modern age. You wont see them on tv or the subways anymore.
Before a lot of countries used to make fun of Americans because we had a lot of obesity. Now a lot of countries are also getting obsessed. I used to weigh a lot when I was a teen, then I started working out more and eating healthy foods! If you guys want to start losing weight, focus on 4 things: 1) Exercise 2) Eat more veggies and fruits 3) Get rid of eating anything with sugar 4) Stop going to restaurants or ordering take outs all the time! Damn, even just getting rid of any sugar made me lose 10 pounds so easily. Please take care of yourselves guys!
I remember watching a video about how America, or rather it's corporations, are importing the American diet around the world and that was the cause of global obesity. I wish I could find that video again because it's pretty enlightening about why obesity rates are going up all over the world.
@@RazorCross12 That sounds very unlikely. Sure, there are American fast food chains around the world, but we also have fast food chains from other countries too, and most of the time those chains outside of America are often not as popular as they are in the states (in fact, a bunch of these American food chains have shut down in a lot of these countries because the regional fast food chains are a lot more popular). I feel like a lot of the obesity issue is due to the rapid food industrialization of these countries, being able to churn out packaged and processed foods much faster than before, and making them a lot more accessible, versus in the past where you'd have to go out of your way to eat fast food and instead go by your local farmer's market and eating/cooking more organic foods.
@@RazorCross12 well there’s also people like my family where we have a hard time with high carbs. Rice, bread, and even fruits have high carbs so it’s more than America spreading. Right now I believe the UK is having a quicker growing problem of obesity than America. America’s obesity is still higher but who knows for how long
No. Weight gain is because high caloric density food lights up the addiction centers of the brain. No one ever got fat by eating vegetables, unprocessed carbs like potato/rice, and beans. In fact if people ate only those things they would get so skinny they would need to add fruit and some nuts. Fats, processed foods and sugars are highly addictive.
I used to weigh in at 230 pounds at age 16...I'm 24 and 160 pounds now...who controlled what I ate as a child versus what I can now choose to eat makes a huge difference. People(especially those feeding children, ie parents) need at least a mild nutritional education worldwide. Children shouldn't consider a fries a soda and a greesy burger from McDonald's a "good meal"
The Chinese have always eaten a lot , but remained thin because they mostly did hard physical work . Now a lot of people are sitting in the office . They eat three times a day , regardless of whether they are hungry or not , there are long queues in every cafe or restaurant , they always talk about food , it seemed a little strange to me . Of course , fast food is not good , but regardless of this , they would get fat , since they are sitting in the office , there is no activity . In addition , sugar , starch , and a lot of butter are added to Chinese dishes .
It's both food and exercise. I thought traditional Chinese food and ingredients are a lot healthier... Mostly low calories veggies, eating meat sparingly, not much fried foods. Traditional diets are a lot lower in calories too. Combined that with more physical activity back then, of course anyone will be thin. But now more people eat processed, high calorie foods plus don't move much. Of course it's natural to get fat in that situation
Fortunately junk food is quite expensive in my place, therefore I couldn't afford it🙂 Still, the local junk food with cheaper prize is everywhere. All of it depend on the people, do not eat greedily.
The subtitles on this video are quite inaccurate, for example 8:11 , I tried to translate it more accurately: Mr. Du, will you be worried that your son won’t be able to eat well at the camp for those 40 or so days? Of course I’m worried that he won’t be able to eat well. He won’t be eating well but we have no choice but to let him persevere. He can still be happy when he gets the occasional chicken leg, but normally, it’s only vegetables. [on the camp] He didn’t mention anything about partying like the subtitles say)
I never understood Mukbangs, I was skinny most of my life then during the pandemic i gained weight, and with that come acne, oily face and chubby cheek. I can't stand looking at myself. Then I exercised for two months, stopped sugar entirely, eat less than estimated 1500 kcals. Now that I'm back to my normal weight i promise to myself to never get fat again, it's miserable.
The weight loss program at 12min will not work! They need to learn to enjoy doing outdoor activities and weight loss. Enjoy eating healthy. Not punished. The father should take the time to take his child out hiking and show the son healthy and yummy vegetable options. Not feed the child unhealthy and large quantities of food. This just wont work in the long run.
Or just taking personal responsibility to not over eat vast quantities of that fast food every day? That food is perfectly fine when you eat it in moderation, and educate on nutrition etc, it's ridiculous to blame the food for bad decisions
@@beththegreen it’s not ridiculous to blame the food for our bad health. Personal accountability is incredibly important, I agree with you but I’m talking about corporate accountability. It’s not just addictive sugars or added carbs in these processed foods. There’s also chemicals in them that the body cannot break down and this is hidden from the general public. Do you know what’s really in a McD’s burger, chemicals and all? Do you know that there are links between processed foods and diseases? It’s not a coincidence that millions of people die from obesity every year. The food itself is made to be addictive and on purpose. This is something we need to start addressing. We should be removing processed foods from our society as a whole. We don’t need it.
@@beththegreen they wouldn't be billionaire companies if their food wasn't addictive and poisonous. The corporations don't tell you that most ppl that try their food will crave it constantly. The fast food industry needs to use REAL meat
This is just going to raise a whole generation with disordered eating and body image issues. They should start by banning all fast food restaurants, junk food being sold in shops should be limited and should have to have minimal nutritional requirements. Then schools, families and the general public should be encouraged and educated in eating a more traditional diet with healthier food. Exercise should be encouraged only in fun ways (these camps are terrible and not going to have any long term impact) but exercise is not the solution to weight loss when people are still eating more calories than they burn. Finally working hours should be limited to give people the time to cook and spend time with their families.
@@ithinkcats Thats the great thing about most traditional ways of eating, they were relatively healthy without people having to know much about calories or health. Lots of vegetables and little meat. Now a-days with all the junk food and fast food, people have to be knowledgeable to understand what is healthy and what is not. And like in this video the general public thought the fast food was healthy because they trusted the big companies but the big companies are evil and just out for getting money, they dont care.
Traveled extensively through China since 2015. Yes, I wanted to walk in to the McDs and KFCs and yell at the top of my lungs, STOP! This food will kill you!!!!! Again as we in the states have learned (maybe?) is that DIETS DONT WORK! It is lifestyle changes, portion control, drink water, and work out somehow…..walk at least! Those fat camps are going about it the wrong way. Losing weight quickly will lower your BMR and THAT is why the weight will always be gained back
It's hard to see the psychological reasons of obesity and other health problems. From what may have started as loneliness can become an unhealthy habit. And me only being a freshman in high school who doesn't have much real world experience I do know that one of the most impactful reasons for health issues is trend and what the media shows what it considered "popular".
So basically it seems as if the fight against obesity in China is much the same as how it looked in the U. S. About 10-15 years ago into today when the biggest loser was most popular. I wish I could say we here in the US had learned from our biggest loser mistakes and that overconsumption of hyper palatable food had declined along with people thinking they can out exercise a bad diet but sadly we’re worse off now. Also we have messages here (as it seems is starting in China too) now saying being fat is not bad for your health anyway so just love your body no matter what size and don’t worry about being obese. Food industry is in the pockets of government and humans are going to eat garbage if it’s cheap and easy and movement is not imperative. SOME messages of slowly working on overall health habits and improving food quality and watching calorie intake is coming around to infiltrate fad diet garbage messages but we’ve got a long way to go to improve our health as a nation, not to mention the state of our mental health or lack thereof.
This why the US is in a Type 2 Diabetic crisis. An uncontrolled lifestyle, overeating led us to this pass. Covid & food shortages will dissuade us from hyper indulgence. Better late than never ...realization in 2 nations.
It’s also a case that older people don’t consume a lot of expensive cuts of meat. Spending 10 yuan per meal for them is enough, and yes they move a lot. They grew up with nothing, so it doesn’t take a lot for them to feel satisfied and save 90% of the rest of what money they have for other things.
I remember something like this growing up in Singapore -- I was asked to/ forced to join a "fatty's social club " , where the authorities hoped that a combination of shame and ridicule would get teens to lose weight. Who knew it only increased anxieties and unhappiness and got people to eat more ?
Very true. Who would want to be like America? Full of murders on the street and alcoholics, radicals and who knows what else. In fact, the average percentage of U.S. obesity of its population is 43% while China's is a mere 5%. Anyone can search it up themselves on the internet.
I just have to as a native Chinese speaker, not all the subtitles are translated correctly. Some subtitles are changed to make the scenes more dramatic or more evil than it it, not surprising but come on bruh. I also noticed some of the music is purposely made more sad in some scenes but isn’t that biased? I kinda wish documentary’s could just be unbiased sometimes, it’s quite annoying to see people twisting the words of my native language
Okay, native chinese speaker here. The captions do encapsulate what they're trying to say, but i can come up with better ways to translate it. Also, sometims they add things that they didn't even say in the first place. For expample, at around 7:00 a boy and his father eat at a restaurant, he never he never said anything about breathing, he said "我一天不吃饭的话呀，人都。。。“ He stumbles on his word and doesn't finish the sentence. sometimes when poeple stutter, they add words in that they didn't say. i know it's hard to caption a 50 minute documentary, but the bad captions are just annoying me too much
It is true, the few obese people I saw in China a few years ago are mainly younger men and women under 30 years old. Other than overeating, having too much sugar in the drinks is a hidden bomb. A cup of drink may have calories more than 2 big bowls of rice. Many people did not realize the problem until they were troubled with symptoms of diabetics. In recent years, many countries impose fines for the drink manufacturers if the sugar added exceeds the regulated amount. Many fast-food networks replace all free drink refill with only sugar-free soft drinks. However, sugar-free drinks also have their downside, therefore we should consume them in moderation.
My son is in Beijing. He wasn’t particularly overweight at 6’2” and 238lbs. He stopped drinking Coke and Beer, drank much more H2O and began bike riding. After 7 months he is down to 180lbs.
I looked it up, and it said that 32.5 percent of Americans were overweight, so doesn’t that mean that even though China’s population is around 4-5 times more than China’s, they have the same amount of overweight people?
"Due to your weight, your parents are very worried about you"
Who made these kids fat in the first place?
@@TacticalRuse "Why aren't you eating the food I make? Why are you being a picky eater?" These are words parents (especially Asians) would usually say if their child suddenly stops eating or eats less than regular. Eating habits are learned and picked up. Children can say no, but they won't say no. Because what kid will say no to being given food? Unless the parents show them the importance of having a healthy diet, children will assume what they're eating is just normal.
@@TacticalRuse Obviously parents who send kids to these sort of program means that they are trying to undo the damage they've done. But why not do it themselves? Put the children on a diet and an exercise routine? Why not be an example to the children? Well, it could probably be that the parent's eating habits are the same as the children. And some parents that are shown just want to correct their children's diet, not their own. In the video, it is also mentioned that one of the contestant's parents is even "more concerned for his son's happiness than health". They might not be mad at the children going on a diet, but they played a part in causing it.
@@TacticalRuse and again, that's on adult supervision. Whoever is looking after them plays a huge role in making sure how the children's lifestyle is. Regardless if the kid is staying with a parent or grandparent.
@@zulaikahsigam8325 to be fair though there is also somewhat of a generational difference. Most Chinese people did not live with so much available food to them up until recently. I know my grandparents and my parents generation struggled with having enough food during the winter. So when they encourage eating, there are also historical reasons behind it I think.
@@kaixinxu5154 my mom's Chinese and I understand the historical significance in why they do so. It's related to the mindset of eat now cause you might not know when you can eat again. I'm not saying it in an ignorant way. I'm just explaining to the previous commentor to why they're blaming the kids and not holding the adults accountable for overfeeding them.
I don't wanna butcher his name because I don't speak Chinese - the twelve year old is such a sweet person. How he talks about his family is very heart-warming. I hope he's doing good.
True
he's so sweet, i wonder where he ended up
How do you butcher bus name by typing it out?
@@organizedchaos4559 Chinese is tonal, it's really easy to mistake a tone, like 公 instead of 共.
@@wonyoung2523 yeah but you’re not expected to write tones in pinyin on a RUclips comment
How can that kid's dad give his son all the food he wants to eat and then punish him for gettin fat! He was overweight since he was six!! Little kids only eat what you give them
Or the kid that was forced into the fat camp, lost 20 kilos or whatever, then went home for New Years and GAINED IT ALL BACK!
I don’t think the father is trying to punish him. From his perspective the camp is a necessity in order for his son to have a healthy and longer lasting life. I think this camp won’t help a majority of the people who participate for various reasons but I truly think the father is doing what he thinks is best.
@@colinsmith1495 The type of dieting the camp implements encourages binge eating so it’s no surprise he gained all the weight back. As it runs now, the majority of those who attend will have short term results. What these kids need is guidance on overall lifestyle changes (including how to integrate exercise into their regular schedules) and knowledge about the food they’re consuming.
I know it sounds crude to compare, but I think the same thing about friends with very overweight pets. They almost make me want to slap some sense into them. They act helpless and confused. They talk about the problem frequently. I hold my tongue because I just don't understand.
Do you notice, kids aren't riding bikes?
I believe, bikes came out, right before cars.
When kids had to ride horses, no one was fat except the very rich
The Wright brothers were bike makers Before they invented flight
That little 12 year old boy touched my heart. He's trying to be positive even though he clearly wants to talk to his mother and misses his family very much. ♥
I just wanna say that no matter what remember that the most important part of weight loss is to do it safely. I was overweight and was told that I must lose weight. I followed an extremely strict diet (800 kcals a day, no dairy, no sugar, no meat) and exercised non stop. It worked but I almost killed myself in the process and I permanently damaged my body. When I say this I speak from experience when I say that the most effective weight loss tactic is building healthy habits and learning to love yourself. Do it to better yourself, not just to fit into smaller jeans.
Correct. You gotta find habits that you can stick to longterm. Cutting agressively is possible, but kicks back most likely.
I respect you for being so genuine
Fo it for health,not the physique. When you're healthy,the proper physique comes naturally
@@joelshajan8706your comment has helped the most and given me a new perspective. I’ve been putting physique first and health last. Maybe that’s why I haven’t stuck with it.
I'm healthy weight and walk a lot daily as I live the city life but 6 hours of exercise a day would absolutely kill me, I would fall into a coma for a week.
When you're the only child in a Chinese family, everyone spoils you. How do they spoil you? Lavish you with food. You go to your maternal grandma's house, they go "did you eat? You must eat!" Then you go to your paternal grandma's house they go "you need to eat all this food I cooked a whole day for you!" I feel bad for the kids at weight loss camp, they're fed to that point and it's not their fault😞
Back in 2004 I saw a few Chinese sons bigger than their fathers-8 year olds taller and heavier. Looks like it’s gotten worse.
The only child policy ended the issue in Chinese family is that food is the center of everything. People social ize around food, celebrate with food ect
“Have you eaten?” I heard in another RUclips vid that this is a common greeting phrase
@@sxxon751 that's correct, although it's more of an older people thing, I don't hear younger Chinese people greet each other that way.
@@Xi.Wang得到正能量 its just how the chinese culture is, its based so much on food
Honestly the subtitles aren’t really that well translated. 13:53 trainer said 回队伍去 which means “get back to your group” and not “get out of my sight” just a heads up cuz the trainers here aren’t really as rude as you might think…
Wow, why would they trick us like that
yeah i found that many subtitles in this documentaries were'nt translated exactly and sometimes it disrupt the original meaning of the speaker
Thank you for clarify. I had no doubt they would do that to give the impression those kid are in some sort of prison.
ah thanks for that! They made them seem rude ig lol
@@weicheanlee3164 Yes. The subtitles for 5:15 failed to capture the politeness of the kid!
What a lot of people seem to miss surrounding weight loss is that it mostly comes down to diet. People only burn about 600 calories per hour while running whereas simply counting calories and and in some cases drinking more water could help people lose weight without much exercise. Even if its a self improvement, you don't actually have to be muscular to be healthy.
yep exactly. I eat whatever I want and I have lost a lot of weight. No salad diet or having to regret not eating food. I lost so much weight just counting my calories and I get to eat whatever I want.
@@Peacht4n same with me, except I never gained weight, so never had over/underweight issues. Besides minding my consumption amounts I have very high metabolism. But I have always done calorie counting from the getgo. And it's true. You can eat anything from any food group and not having any guilt afterwards when calorie counting. It's the most human diet I think. Others seem to torture people. I also think it's finding the right diet that works for you. Some people it's the physical cardio, some it's more associated with getting your greens in, some people just need to stay clear of the sugary sweets etc.
@@ameliawilder28 when you exercise you can get a faster metabolism which wld allow u to eat even more calories. i wouldnt be surprised if at least a few of these ppl who do this for a living exercise to maintain their weight while also eating as much as they do, because these mukbangers do eat well over any recommended calorie amount lol.
Exercise is like a magic potion for the body. The good that exercise does for our bodies, is far beyond weight loss.
"Counting calories" typically means running at a caloric deficit, which is HORRIBLY hard to maintain long term and can have pretty negative metabolic and psychological effects. It may work well for maintaining weight (where you're trying to be calorie neutral), but for weight loss it's not a good idea. Also, realize that 'counting calories' is a VERY inaccurate system, as the calories your body actually takes in and actually spends depend a LOT on efficiency factors which can vary fairly wildly from person to person, food to food, and exercise to exercise. Yes, that food may HAVE 200 calories, but how many did you actually absorb? Yes, the average person may spend 100 calories doing that, but are you average?
I encourage everyone to look into the keto diet and the research behind it (one of the few diets with legit scientific studies behind it). The entire idea is to run on a different metabolism, in which your body will naturally burn fat, whether from diet or your reserves (your body).
big respect to people who were once obese/overweight and manage to lose to and get to healthy body weight levels. people don't realize losing weight is one of the hardest things we can do physiologically
Big respect for those who don teat like pigs .
You’re right it’s very hard losing weight and easy gaining for me. I was able to lose 31 pounds but it took me 1 whole year to lose that much
Lose weight
@@anthonyvu3231 well, ye, gaining fat is a survival mechanism to store energy for hard times (evolutionary). Its supposed to be gained fast and lost slowly. The only hard thing about it is to stop indulging in overeating
@@flower1990-Bbig respect for those who actually know how to spell
I think the parents should also take some type of classes on what food they feed their children. Children don't buy groceries.
That 12 year old talking about the soul connections with his family is fr one of the most moving inspirational quote i've ever heard, man should be a poet.
Some kids are just very kind, smart, and considerate for their ages, very rare but true gems.
That whole part was so wholesome I watched it twice just to make my heart happy
I’ve also struggled with being overweight and I can say at least 84% of my weight gain was because of my parents and culture. In my African Culture, we’re told not to waste food and are often body shamed if we don’t eat much. This happened to me. My dad would force me to finish the food on my plate just because “Other people don’t have much” But still there are ways to conquer this like saving the rest of the food for later. And even when I protested against this as a kid, I would only get punished for it. This led me to continue to eat. And when I get fat, I get body shamed. Every-time my family would say I’m fat, I would get depressed and it caused a big binge eating disorder for me. They would see the signs but never do anything much to help me. They would just say “lose weight” and think it’s enough when I don’t even know what to do to lose weight. No one ever taught me. Now that I’m grown, I’ve decided to block them from my mind because none of their words helped. I’ve started to learn about myself and go on a self love journey to appreciate myself for still being alive. Through that, I’m able to be comfortable with myself and do things not just to lose weight but to live a healthy life style. I’m not doing it for them, I’m doing it for me. I hope you’re not too hard on your self and take things at a good pace. It’s ok if you haven’t lost weight yet. Just keep going and remember “You’re not doing it for them. You’re doing it for you”;)
Love that for you 💜 yeah, I can definitely understand the Africain parenting - it's bad to waste food, but they'll never take another solution 😭
Don’t waste food. Portion control is important
Naw don't block them, CUT CONTACT.
@@juicebox9046 found the redditor
@@tamiwu0346 Uhm ok?? You don't litterally bodyshame and blame your kids FOR YOUR MISTAKES?? that's cutting contact material for me.
As a Korean person, I think the same is happening (shown in the video) in South Korea. Yes, it is true that the majority of Chinese people and Korean people are very slim, but there is still a noticeable increase in obesity. In Korea, I feel like the younger generations eat more than their parents, and not all of them get enough exercise due to factors such as school.
And not to mention society is more lax on weight now
@@LZvv96310 i thought that was only in America. Obesity is still a bad thing in the middle east and they will most likely never accept it, as they should
This doc put in perspective finally for me, how fast and harmful corporate food has infested many parts of the world. It all starts with mindset and will, to really make a change for anything in life.
Obesity is a global problem comparable to an epidemic, no kidding. In the last few decades, the only few countries that didn't see an increase in obesity are located in Africa, or the poles. Every other country saw an increase (some more thant others, still).
@@yoomsuu what kind of eating disorder are common there may i know? i thought the beauty standard pressure people to stay fit
"Her fans are often single young adults, lonely and missing companionship."
Bruh you don't have to do them like that 😭💀
Im with everyone else saying that 12 year old is probably one of the best humans ive ever seen in any situation. What a genuinely wholesome little dude
The kid at 18:00 is simply amazing and just too mature a thinker for his age.
Yeah he seems like such a good child. Loves his mom and family.
raise by good parents tbh what a lovely boy 😊
Wait till you start hearing about how such speech is how we were taught to speak and memorise since we can first speak. The combination of respect others will give to their parents and encouragement they gain from this further motivates Chinese to embrace this sense of “I have no choice.” mentality. Useful to keep us in line to control…
When all of this just boils down to memory work, it’s not longer that impressive. :/ I hope the boy can one day honestly look into his heart and see the pain caused by our Chinese parents and one day heal from their absence and excuses we are taught to excuse them from… 😔
@@14xx07 Feel sorry that you experienced that, but that's not always the case
@@Beebavel 🙄
Wasting 5000 EUR for the camp, wow. His son knows that if he needs, his father will just pay for another session and he will be off the hook. Until he really decides to change his lifestyle, no camp will help him.
5000 euro but give vege to eat lol.
Best right
The fact that the father told his son to eat all that he wanted of whatever he wanted tells the whole story of the problem.
He does need camp but this camp will not help him long term. Hopefully he will someday find a program that will. Realistically, the son needs to enjoy exercise and eating healthy. None of this depriving them of their family or yelling at them will help.
The father actually said it was near 100000RMB, which is 14000 EUR.
It is even expensive for asia standard … you can buy better things for 5000 euro lol but not enough for houses even in asia
I still don't understand today's mukbang, isn't it gross and repulsive seeing someone eating THAT many food?
@@archangel7052 weirdos
@@archangel7052 I don’t see how promoting excessive eating (or any unhealthy and extreme eating behavior ) could be healthy for anyone.
Only if they are obese does it gross me out.
@@Nancy68fromNJ It's not. She (the woman in the video) is making money off of it. So, of course she would promote it.
I think young people are okey watching it, but as you get older ,it kind of gets gross who wants to watch people open their mouth and chew their food like a glutton.
I once weighed 120 kg and now I'm down to 89kg. It was a hard journey and nothing that can be achieved in one month. Those fat camps are not going to lead to the betterment of those kids' situations, you need to change their hearts and minds and make them realize how harmful the food is they consume if you don't they'll never change their habits.
I'm in the same boat as you, I weighed 105 kilos in 2019, I was 19 at the time, I thought to myself this cannot continue otherwise I'd have no quality of life to speak of in the future, so I drastically scaled down my diet and began exercising, I'm sitting at 75 kilo since late 2021 and have been keeping it there.
It's a long and difficult journey, and these month-long camps are only gonna help short term.
Yes 6 hrs of exercise a day is ridiculous!! If you focus mainly on calories, you can maintain /lose and still enjoys treats, nights out etc
I was obese back home and it is the stress, although I was born and raised in Beijing for 18 years and it's by far not the most competitive city in China, being a kid growing up is stressful especially with school. As a result I got into stress eating and secret eating, I would hide snacks and wrappers in secret places and eats them alone because of the stress, but at the time I didn't know and I was told it was because I had no self control, which stress me out even more lol. Even many skinny friends I have stress eat but they lean into bulimia, which is dangerous.
It was only when I had my mental health sorted out I feel like Im in control of my body and health again, and separating myself from that surrounding by moving across the world.
I don't even wanna know what Minnie has to do to stay slim after eating all that, day in day out....
Her gut must be absolutely destroyed.
I know what I suspect.
probably she vomits it out
Maybe just fasting, she probably only eats a meal a week
@@vedgr8605 Right! The cameras don't show that part.
@@vedgr8605 I think that's what everyone is eluding to...
Oh my goodness that 12 year old boy trying to reach him mother on the phone is the sweetest. What a darling personality, I hope it isn't crushed as he grows up.
Americans: **Are you challenging me?!**
But seriously as a 100+ kg (220lb) dude (but over 6tf tall) guy who is no longer morbidly obese I want to say that exercise is not the main factor to losing weight. When spending long periods of time in another country I noticed the portion sizes were completely different to what I considered "normal" which explained why my cousins were way slimer than me. Sleep and as the woman said, quality of food makes the real difference. Fasting works too.
Yup. It's a structural problem with diet being the key issue. Fast food is fast food. Nothing will change that but look at the difference of convenience stores. The quality is night and day between US and other top countries. Grocery stores are few in number in many places (this phenomenon is called a food desert). And because we are a car based society, our urban development is dependent on that. Lack of good public transportation. Suburbia makes it more difficult for transportation of food to be available in cities. Combined the fact with a car based society, food prices gone up as more trucks are required to transport goods between the ever distant farms to city centers.
Countries like South Korea and Japan are a fraction of the size of US and yet food prices are quite reasonable. Food in US should actually be cheap. It should be very affordable. A bag of apples should be a dollar. Gallon of milk in cents to no more than 1 dollar. Vegetables should also be under a dollar. Yet a small box of cherry tomatoes cost $5. The only thing that is going for Americans is their meat prices. Hard to beat that in other countries.
@@mintyfresh4855
I agree with everything you said except food prices. Fruits and vegetables are quite cheap on the food desert where I live due to the US relying on immigrat labor for cheap fruits as they can get paid cents for every bag filled or dollars for entire creates or straight up importing them from Mexico (you have to drive quite a bit just to get groceries because I live in a mostly black community) but yes indeed we have a car based society and sedimentary lifestyle. When I lived in Mexico I could taste the difference in food (the chicken and meat had a yellow/pink color because it was killed that day and the plate/glass/bowl portions were totally different. Meat as you said was reserved for special occasions and not for every meal as here in the US. Public transportation was WAAAYYY better than in the US (wierd as the US is the richest country in the world). Walking in Mexico city was alot better than trying to navigate Chicago and there were HUGE parks where people skate/mingle about. The stores were also in places difficult for cars so you are pretty much forced to walk to get around. It took me a while to get used to the food culture of a non US country.
This is not just you. 70 30 rule. Losing weight is about 70% diet 30% exercise. You could exercise all you want but you won't easily lose weight and will gain it right back unless you change your diet.
I am not fat and far from it but this camp looks halla fun but I know I am weird.
@@spaghetti2777 Definitely agree. It's mostly a "diet" issue. Go low carb and portion control. Exercise frequently. Done. Frozen nuggets, fries, and those Nesquick chocolate milks gotta go.
Omgg i had to stop to comment on that sweet 12year old boy 🥺🥺 when he said « I can see my family without paying for the calls » is soo adorable. I want a sweet kid like him. I hope he stays as radiant and positive in life.
It’s insane to me how deep the corruption of industrialization has gone. We are taught to value work, work, work over our families, our own health, our happiness. Look what it gets us. Children neglected and spoiled, parents pushed by society to take extreme measures when all it really takes is a step back and a few small life changes.
It’s also striking to me how, contrary, to what a lot of people believe, America is far from the only country with a massive obesity problem. I’ve just come to this video from another exploring the effects of fast food in Brazil and India, where they have even fewer restrictions on nutrition and the way companies are allowed to market. The world is so corrupt.
I can tell you that yes, it's becoming global phenomenon and it's sad. But it baffles me that industrialisation is that impactful in China. Like it's a communist country, so how are they keeping these fast food centers working while Xi is implementing schemes to reduce food wastage, eat healthy and portion control.
Yup.
Fast food companies won't take responsibility but at the same time they make their food addictive on purpose.
Look at companies like IFF, surmise, givaudan etc. They make chemicals for food addiction to be added into fast food and processed food
ikr, and they blame it all on the people for not exercising enough.
@@aliciacline08 I shall invest in those companies then
I just imagined a morbidly obese person saying that
@@aliciacline08 And people just don't care what they eat as long as it is tasty.
I almost started tearing up hearing the little boy talk about not being able to reach his mom. I just wanted to give him a hug!
This is an interesting and amazing documentary but I’d like to point out that a lot of things people said were excluded in the translations. Not anything that is too drastic, however, I notice things that make obesity seem less of a negative are cut out. Like when they ask an obese girl if it’s hard for her to walk, she says it’s not too hard it just makes her hot and sweat. They cut out the part where she says that it isn’t too hard.
I know that this could just be a translation error or something and I don’t blame them as they may need to cut off some sentences to keep up with their talking speed (reading is slower than talking).
Over all, I really liked this documentary]!
In 5 to 10 years it will be very difficult for her, believe me. Even just raising from a seat will be hard work for her.
Besides, she will get several health issues such as diabetes and cardiac problems.
Prescribing acupuncture and cupping for her serious concerns are just skimming off her money.
the tone of what's being said and what's been subtitled (trailing 2 to 3 sentences behind what's being spoken) is consistently misrepresented to the point that I think it's on purpose, thank god for the narration
It seems like the narrator is trying to make the viewer believe what they think about obesity in China is the truth rather than showing sharing what they discover without any biases
I noticed the exact same thing!! what I was hearing wasn't always lining up with what the subtitles said. thought I was going crazy T.T
@@ava6416 They are still getting fat. Everywhere in Asia it is the same. Look at Singapore secondary school children, in particular the girls. There is not much difference anymore in between them and US.
the crazy thing is I remember seeing these exact programs and policies and infomercials regarding obesity and child obesity in my country in the mid '00s and early 2010's, with the blame being placed on the rapid growth of fast food companies and an increase in a sedentary lifestyle.
If you guessed I'm talking about the USA, you'd be correct.
A friend gave me Accupuncture on the stomach. It felt weird, it had a cooling sensation that was also felt like it was circulating thought out my stomach. Weird part was that my stomach was contacting a bunch during the process. She said it help with detox and fat loss.
With acupressure she massaged my stomach but it felt like she was punching my stomach and gut, it hurt a lot that I shed a tear.
I mean, you have needles in your stomach...
Maybe, the problem is they don’t teach the kids a healthy approach to weight lose and thats the reason why the kids can’t maintain the weight they lost. They need a change of mindset and should be taught how to develop good habits in exchange for those bad habits (ex. Eating when bored, instead do a hobby; sewings, reading, or drawing )
I do hope these kids can be successful in their journey.
I lost weight when I was 12-13 but the thing is, i’ve been thin my whole life and this time I had a toxic mindset and i’m trying ti get rid of that.
That's the truth!
That's the business model
But that means that they won't return
The harsh military is useless when it’s the parents’ fault for giving their kids too much food and tolerating fastfood. It’ll all come back once they’re home.
I’m also concerned about the boys- looks like there is a lot of estrogen in the chicken they are eating.
@@Bobspineable
Submissiveness is the opposite of discipline.
Discipline is to establish your will against adversity. Submitting to the wannabe-seargant is to abandon your will against adversity.
Not being fat shouldn't take discipline. And it doesn't for most fat people as long as they just approach fat-loss in a smart manner (and not like those TV shows).
That boy at 17:06 that was trying to call his mother was so sweet!! My son and I where connected like that as well!!! ❤❤
Thank you so much for stating their weights in kilos instead of pounds.
That 12 year old is a treasure. He is so much more understanding than I was when I was 12.
9:50 The camp counselors' shirts say "Go, change now" on their backs, and the boy's shirt be "leave the boy alone" 😆
So they do have some sense of humour!
just the most random words lol
Weightloss happens in the kitchen, Fitness happens in the gym. Together they are stronger, absolutely, but it is much easier to eat 500kcal less, than to burn 500kcals
I lost 15kg in 2021. I feel much more energetic and happier.
Fantastic job! How was your 2021 weight loss journey?
Chad
Good job!
This was so insightful and inspiring how disciplined the children are - especially thumbs up to the 12 y/o boy who had such a loving heart towards his mother and family. Wonderful.
I think the rise in obesity ties in with the loneliness epidemic that is heavily increasing in majority developed countries such as China. Food is what brings people together, that’s where I think the main feeling of comfort comes from (as well as the assured feeling that we are fed thus able to survive another day) With the rise of the internet and technology, we are slowly separating ourselves from the concept of socializing, with that, we are using food as a secondary sustenance for something we cannot be without biologically. What I am saying is merely a rough draft of my theory, and I am aware that there are many holes that need fixed. But the mix of loneliness and the predatory behaviors of major fast food companies are definitely key factors.
No, the Chinese are simply predisposed to prefer sweet and rich foods. Rice is as addicting as any sugary drink.
@@TehKaiser you what you just mentioned is on point because rice is very addicting because of the sugar that it has in it.
@@bkopgamer I am Chinese. Descended from a mom who grew up in Shanghai and an Americanized Cantonese dad. Dad was born in 1933 and mom 1949. Mom’s cooking had plenty of starchy items. Wontons. Stir-fry meats necessitated corn starch. If there’s a soup, noodles or rice made it go down better.
Glutinous Flour rice pancake(mochi) were sometimes eaten
There were some non-starchy foods, like bok choy, fried celery, tofu.
Red bean paste was an infrequent snack. It is healthier than say coke, but it’s sugar with beans.
I did avoid constant McDonalds, Coca-Cola, etc. Orange juice was a favorite for her to buy. We did eat bad snacks but not every day like some Americans.
I wound up getting perio young, as I’m only 33. My 31 year old sis has a 5.7 a1c. I’m six feet 120. Sis is 5’4, 129lbs.
The problem here isn't about weight loss but rather their daily lives have changed since the 80s. Bear in mind that back then, there still existed a solid family unit and time for home-cooked family dinners. Never mind the fact presented that meat is now more readily available but rather the way it is cooked is the key. If you looked at what my family ate back then, I am not a Chinese national, but am ethnic Chinese, it was a combination of meat (beef, chicken, pork), fish, vegetables, and of course, rice. That is par for the course for almost any Chinese family no matter where one is from. The thing that has changed over time is time pressure in our daily lives that has changed our eating habits (it certainly has mine), and I leave it to you to find out where and how it is for you. For me, after I left home to be on my own, I found myself cooking due to time pressure, or not cooking by eating out. What i did cook was easy and fast, usually unhealthy. However, at the time you don't notice it too much because you are active physically etc. It all comes crashing down on you when you get to your late 30s where one starts noticing the changes. Habits like that can be changed.
However, what I do not stand for is the shaming of people by the Chinese, in the instance of that lady who got spat upon because of her size, not that she was big. I do not hold with that kind of attitude and it is uncivilised and I am finding, more and more to my chagrin, and to my disbelief, that Chinese nationals are the worst offenders of this kind of thing compared to even their neighbours, Japan and South Korea, who historically and culturally, known for that sort of thing. The lack of responsibility, including from the parents of the children in question, is horrifying. In any case, I think China has a lot of growing up to do before it can overcome this madness and probably become a more moderate nation in every sense of the word.
This is such an interesting perspective. Thank you for sharing!
One thing of note is that this problem isnt just a China problem but a world problem. A long term study done by the Imperial College London found that obesity levels are 10 times higher now than in the previous 40-50 years. I won't go into the study too much but what it does say is that in the past 40 years, some of the highest increases in obesity were found in, notably, East Asian countries (of which China is) and most, if not all, high income English speaking countries, also noting that the Middle East and North Africa have also shown increases in that time.
It's not the fault of the kids, it's the resteraunts and the food. They don't know how much sugar is in it. They're not being taught how to avoid it. They're being punished for nothing. It's not right.
I agree it’s not the kids faults but It is 100% the parents for not educating their children on healthy food choices and restricting how much they eat. Teaching healthy eating habits is so crucial and if it’s lacking in childhood it is extremely hard to develop in adulthood …
@@layray210 The thing is, what makes you think the adults know any better? They're only just getting American foods and they're suffering just as badly as the children.
@@toni4729 the thing is it’s the adults responsibility to know. Their childrens lives depend on it
@@layray210 If children are getting type 2 diabetes at the age of four and five in America how do you expect the Chinese to know any better? We in the west have known about this sugar problem a lot longer than they have and it's not doing our kids any good, at least most of them. Look at the state of our own before knocking theirs. They have only recently got junk food from us.
It's not a punishment, it's a treatment. Regardless of fault the treatment is important. The culture of respect compels one to appreciate a parent's sacrifice. The parent's mistake is not mutually exclusive with respect.
Imagine having 4 million people watching you live all the time just for you to end up making 7k euro a month. Her team is straight up scamming her
Faxs 😂
😅😂😂
It’s how China’s economy works. It’s a communist country so that means that everyone is being paid equally on minimum wage. There are very few exceptions like politicians.
What I really appreciate from the Chinese is that they aren't always pointing fingers at America, like the British do with their "monkey see monkey do" attitude towards obesity issues.
They take responsibility for their issues and that's commendable.
But don't the whites in America insist that it's wrong to criticise fat people or something??
The meat isn't the problem, it's the bread and sweet sauces it's wrapped up in.
That is another myth. Meat is actually really high in calories, plus almost always heavily seasoned in high sodium and fried in lots of oil and fat. For those looking to diet, unless u cook the meat yourself, and even so only if you can hold back on the seasoning, meat is equally if not worse than starchy food.
@@yivunqp963 Would you care to tell me what is wrong with seasoning? Seasoning is make of vegetables and you actually require salt, if you're talking about salt, you can't live without it. When it comes to meat, fish and eggs, I can assure you that fat will never make you fat, as long as it's not added to anything loaded with sugar. Sugar actually turns into fat in the body as soon as you put it into your mouth. It's dangerous stuff, it's alien to the body, we don't need it , it's rots the teeth for a start and it goes on the rot the liver, the digestive system and if you continues to eat it, it will kill you. Type 2 diabetes, heart disease and stroke. It can also cause blindness, and gangrene causing many people to lose their legs before they die.
@@toni4729 Fat and Meat are both high in calories. Plus salt which you claim we cannot be without. Yes, we need salt, but only in very little amount. Salt seasoning are always over-seasoning. The amount of salt that is healthy is the same for sugar. So sugar is not more evil as you put it.
@@yivunqp963 Sugar; we need none of. Our live can make all the glucose we need all the time. We cannot make salt. We can urinate the salt out that we overeat as it just makes us very thirsty and we will drink water until we do uninate it out. If you make you own food, cook your own food you will have to add salt. It's the junk food that has too much salt added. Fresh meat has no salt in it as the blood has the salt and it's been removed. If you're the type of person that will buy a pizza, for instance you'll find it's loaded with salt and you won't need to add it.
@@toni4729 yeah no overall calories are what’s important for weight
Those poor kids will put all the weight back on and more, and the added psychological damage that they will have is unbearable to imagine . That regime is not sutainable for very long. It justs supports a society to persecute them for being carb sensitive with very high insulin hormone levels, which give them swings in their blood sugar,causing them to eat more. They should have been educated on the benefits of adopting a low carb ketogenic type of diet and long term lifestyle . The extent of your ability to deal with carbs lies in your genes , which is why some people can remain a normal weight without having to starve themelves or excessively exercise throughout their entire lives.
The young woman who works nights and lives on the fifth floor could start walking up and down those stairs for an hour every day. She can just go slowly until she builds up her stamina, and the stairs become easier. Walking those stairs and fasting for at least 20 hours each day and cutting back on some of the fast food will help. Why doesn't anyone at the clinic she visits give her this advice? Isn't some form of fasting a traditional method for managing health in Chinese culture?
Fasting is actually ingrained into most cultures, however traditional values have degraded - including fasting - for a while now especially in developed countries.
Honestly fasting is not good for binge eaters, who eat out of unhappiness. Just leads to more binging. Solution is to find other things in life to feel happy about.
Just wanted to clarify, fasting is not part of Chinese culture. At most, you can consider it a practice among minor religions here. But it's not a known custom and never a widely adopted tradition. Just look at all the Chinese festivals, we FEAST not fast every holiday haha
@@xavierbrown4051 yep I had that problem before I’m now a tad bit over weight BMI wise, my fat % is in the healthy range, my visceral fat is in the healthy range, and my subcutaneous fat is in the normal range. All I aim for now is BMI. But even if I stayed my weight now there’s no health effects and everything is right about where I am happy with. Only issue is my metabolism is one year older than me. I brought that down from like 6 years to 1 years though. I still plan on losing weight
Msny times, the more active one IS, the less food you'd WANT
Climbing stairs would be perfect for her
Every culture has their own food traditions, China has very beautiful and delicious traditional foods that can keep you in good health, I hope that in the future people will once more see the value in their traditional foods with these industrial food products seen as only an occasional convenience
It depends on the region. Southern Chinese cuisine (at least for Cantonese cuisine) uses relatively less fat and red meat but more fish, poultry and vegetables, with the major cooking methods being blanching, steaming and broth-type soup; stir-frying is also common but still less oily than deep-frying or roasting (OTOH their desserts and sweet-soups are sugar bombs). In contrast, Northern Chinese cuisine uses far more red meat, oil and appetizing strong spices; roasting and stewing are more popular cooking methods while hot-pot, a popular dish in the North, is not only heavy but also makes people unknowingly eat more as they sit at the table eating and chit-chatting for hours.
I know a friend who became visibly fat in just a a few years once he moved from Guangdong to Beijing, even though he is not a fast-food person and only goes to traditional Chinese diners.
12yr old Jia Hao is a gem of a kid. What an enlightened outlook on hardship.
I think there's a problem with that 40 days training. I had a friend who did it every year, he'd come back from it with 15(?) kgs less but in a very short time he'd gain it back. And this happened every year, so it's useless if at home you'll still do whatever you want.
right I think it's a marketing and a money-making scheme more than anything. They don't really teach them how to keep the weight off, so expectantly most people return to the camp, every year, over and over, and these are expensive too.
The problem with most concepts of "dieting" is that we view it as a temporary change to our life style, rather than a permanent change in how we eat. You can't just diet off a certain amount of weight then return to your prior eating habits, that will just return you back to being overweight. If you want a permanent change in your weight, you need a permanent change in the way you eat. Therefore, the focus should not be on extreme and temporary diets, but rather on sustainable changes you can make to your current diet that you will maintain for the rest of your life.
Dude they can only teach you the way to lose/keep weight. You seriously expect the camp to be some magic pill that kills fat for the rest of your life?
I think it's more about creating a habit for daily life. Hit n miss thou
Yes, because as they said they never address the root of their overeating. They only make them lose weight in a controlled environment. Without therapy and education, they will likely all return to their unhealthy habits.
Man, this whole thing was very triggering for me. I lost 65 lbs after having two children. My husband is from the Philippines (I know it is not China but their beauty and body standards are similar). Whenever we FaceTime them they always tell me "you look so slim, you are so pretty and skinny, etc). Sure, I like the compliments. I worked hard to lose the weight and have kept it off for 4 years. But also, the obsession with being skinny (don't get me started on how they love my white skin too) is also sad.
Similar attributes indians have as well. 1st thing they comment about is how small or big u are. And that conversation gets carried on to third parties and circle never ends.
@@jai_b Frrr my fam is always calling me fat (I’m not even fat!)& being colorist. I literally have the lightest skin in my family & they are so rude to me bc of my hyperpigmentation. Like bruh it is your genetics that made me this way
It’s not simply about losing weight for beauty, but health issues come in play as well. Obesity can cause high blood pressure, high bad cholesterol, increase chances of a stroke, and all types of heart diseases which is pretty bad, especially in children. Although you’re also right about the beauty standards being wrong and very hurtful to overweight people.
@@e-ming6990 also the side effects of medicine can put weight on you
As a 15 year old filipino I agree..White colored skin is very looked up upon the people there as well as the weights
Fun fact: Loosing too much weight can cause things such as muscle loss and fainting, and not loosing enough weight can lead to heart complications. Everything in moderation, even if its undoing something else.
Body composition is more important than weight (unless you’re like 400 pounds).
I’m 120 and can bench press 180
1-2% of your weight a week, I’ve heard
losing
@@SNAKEAT3R try to get your coffin open first
Actually, this happens in Indonesia too. I wonder if there are no sports extracurriculars in china?.
I Lost Much Weight because I did swimming and hiking as my extracurricular during my high school time.
my teenage age is my golden age lol. I can Swim for 30 minutes without stops and Run 15 km a day.
I used to be so active. everything changes after work. anxiety, lack of exercise.
" if you don't stop messing around, we'll end up hating you" jesus christ 😭I'd feel so humiliated and vulnerable if I was spoken to like that as a child trying to lose weight
Omg, how did she eat alllllllll that 1:28? I thought they pretended to eat and edited the footage but she was eating live with everyone watching. It's humanly impossible to eat all that!
Binge and purge 🤮
Honestly it’s not that hard but bc of the consequences it kinda “turns off” your appetite
She gained more than a stone in one meal!
There’s an American mukbanger who has gained 200lbs in 3 years. The stomach can stretch out quite a bit.
she starve for days
The lady who is in charge of the national food program is 100 percent right. My dad used to live in a village during the 70's and they would only have meat on Chinese New Year, even then he mostly just got some soup with a few bones to nibble on. He is kind of lying since he would often go fishing in the nearby streams, but I doubt he could catch a lot of fish with a stick and little dams (sources based on my dad and trust me bro).
Similar situation in Vietnam back in the 80s.
That's what my mom said about her village back in China and as a special treat for each person's bday, the bday person would get an egg to eat.
Still, the meat is proteins, and if you don't eat greasy pork, but chicken, turkey and fish, how is that fattening? Rather frying on oil everything is a problem? And of course all sorts of additives and taste enhancers plus fast (fried) food.
Its not meat, its processed foods and sugar(carbs).
Meat is full of hormones like estrogen and even skinless chicken breast is high in fat
Actually the diet answers are underneath their nose. It's their traditional diet of whole foods plant based diet.
I think there’s also one more factor in here that a lot of people miss that was in the video : good quality organic produce are sold to UPSCALE restaurants….. this is also bad for people who want to lose weight. The quality of the food also affects the appealing of the food. And the price to which we can access them also affects our ability to have properly diet and nutrition. For instance, if you buy a bad quality carrot, it’s not going to be sweet..it might be bland and slightly bitter aftertaste and can be dry and rubbery. Nice quality carrot is sweet and refreshing and has crispy crunch to it. Of course, price point will ruin it. You’ll pay $8 for about half kilo of quality carrots vs $1.99 for the same amount but low quality.
3:48 bro the creators of this video cut her off while she was talking. At least cut it when she ended a sentence that was just rude and annoying. For those who only speak english, she was about to go in on whatever she was gonna say next. what she said whilst being cut off was "so in a year I..." Either cut out that part or leave in what she was about to say. Its so prominent that you cannot skip pasts it and instantly noticable.
that chef at 20:20 is right. food is often medicinal, and food is the biggest factor in health and weight.
I also think, people stopped sleeping at night after 11:30 24/7 media
People cant lose weight, if they are up late
When I was younger, my parents were buying chips, cookies and candy for my siblings and I. But my parents make sure that we eat them from times to times and not everyday. They educate us about the importance of eating healthy food, and enjoying the junk food but they were constantly telling us that it wasn’t good for our health to eat them everyday. I was sitting and watching tv/ playing videos games (I’m still doing it haha) but my parents always have obligated us to stay active. So we were playing outside in the backyard or they were taking us to the park (even during winter we were playing outside). I even remember my parents shutting off the tv and literally picked us up and bring us in the backyard to play with us or helping us finding an activity. So I think a kid can also have his “cheat day” but parents have to make sure that it’s moderate. I was allowed to eat hamburger (peel by my mom or bought from McDonald’s), hot dog, fries. But it’s all about a balance diet. So it’s the parents responsibility to make sure their kids stay active and eat healthy while having some cheat day. But to also educate them about the importance of healthy food. I’m 26 years old today and my siblings and I have the same mindset about food. We know that it’s better to prep our own food instead or eating in the restaurant or ordering because we don’t know what’s in it, we’re mostly drinking water instead of juice, we’re eating healthy meal, we eat carbs, and also a lot of vegetables, and we’re still eating cookies/pastries or candy from times to times. But our body is healthy (same for our parents) and we’re pretty active (jogging together during summertime), playing basketball if we can or doing home workout. *I live in Canada and my parents are immigrants from Guinea (south-west Africa). So eating well is a cultural thing in my country but I’m grateful for my parents to have educate me about a healthy diet.
Yeah I find it more enjoyable because I see it as little treats. and my body is able to know when it’s enough. For exemple, for me and my siblings, when we travelled, we eat junk food for sure but we tell to each others that’s it’s too much and need to eat healthy because we’re starting to feel sick and not well. So we also choose restaurants with healthy options. Also in my family were able to refrain ourself from buying junkfood (it’s not an obligation). Overall we’re able control what we eat which is great :)
Patient : Doctor, obesity runs in my family.
Doctor : The problem is no one runs in your family.
Oh my god... 05:15 when the child said,
"I think I'm very fat...
Only old people like fat kids”
my heart ripped in two.
Anyone with common sense knows that obesity is harmful to ones body since we all know the problems that comes along with it
Old people likes fat kids since that reassures them that the kid eats 3 meals a day
The problem is one of lifestyle. Simple put, we're not moving as much as we used to and we're substituting that with more eating.
When I was a kid growing up, in the summers, we ate our breakfast and ran outside to meet our friends. We road our bikes, played round up (basically tag on steroids), road skateboards, all of the typical games. And we knew that if our parents saw us, they'd find some work for us to do, so we never came back home. Sometimes, I'd finally come home at dusk, shaking because I was so hungry and exhausted, but happy.
Today, kids spend the overwhelming majority of their time doing what I'm doing right now: social media. Watching youtube or tiktok or something like that. They see outdoor activities as punishment, not fun, which I find nuts. This disconnected virtual lifestyle is also causing an imbalance, causing mental issues and fueling more eating. Finally, the US has done a good job of exporting their fast food lifestyle all around the world. When I was a kid, Asian kids were skiiiiiinnny! Now, they're catching up and are just as big as Americans.
Here in singapore, the government has been trying to tackle this issue as well. They put a lid on the advertising of sweetened drinks like coke and pepsi to stem down diabetes too, which is getting more prevalent in this modern age. You wont see them on tv or the subways anymore.
Calling MRT subway was the most American thing I heard from a Singaporean lol, but don’t worry I use the subway term too
Before a lot of countries used to make fun of Americans because we had a lot of obesity. Now a lot of countries are also getting obsessed. I used to weigh a lot when I was a teen, then I started working out more and eating healthy foods! If you guys want to start losing weight, focus on 4 things: 1) Exercise 2) Eat more veggies and fruits 3) Get rid of eating anything with sugar 4) Stop going to restaurants or ordering take outs all the time! Damn, even just getting rid of any sugar made me lose 10 pounds so easily. Please take care of yourselves guys!
Thank you for your wonderful advice.
I remember watching a video about how America, or rather it's corporations, are importing the American diet around the world and that was the cause of global obesity. I wish I could find that video again because it's pretty enlightening about why obesity rates are going up all over the world.
@@RazorCross12 That sounds very unlikely. Sure, there are American fast food chains around the world, but we also have fast food chains from other countries too, and most of the time those chains outside of America are often not as popular as they are in the states (in fact, a bunch of these American food chains have shut down in a lot of these countries because the regional fast food chains are a lot more popular). I feel like a lot of the obesity issue is due to the rapid food industrialization of these countries, being able to churn out packaged and processed foods much faster than before, and making them a lot more accessible, versus in the past where you'd have to go out of your way to eat fast food and instead go by your local farmer's market and eating/cooking more organic foods.
You said nothing of value bro 😂
@@RazorCross12 well there’s also people like my family where we have a hard time with high carbs. Rice, bread, and even fruits have high carbs so it’s more than America spreading. Right now I believe the UK is having a quicker growing problem of obesity than America. America’s obesity is still higher but who knows for how long
I say an overweight person must go for therapy, as there is psychological issues as to the eating!
No. Weight gain is because high caloric density food lights up the addiction centers of the brain. No one ever got fat by eating vegetables, unprocessed carbs like potato/rice, and beans. In fact if people ate only those things they would get so skinny they would need to add fruit and some nuts. Fats, processed foods and sugars are highly addictive.
@@happycook6737 they could be if your diet is low in chromium
It cuts the sweet tooth
@@kathleenking47 Hmm, I will check it out. Thanks. 👍
Smh bro just work out it’s improve self esteem
The first thing that came to my mind is that despite hating each other, the US and China both struggle with an obesity pandemic.
I used to weigh in at 230 pounds at age 16...I'm 24 and 160 pounds now...who controlled what I ate as a child versus what I can now choose to eat makes a huge difference. People(especially those feeding children, ie parents) need at least a mild nutritional education worldwide. Children shouldn't consider a fries a soda and a greesy burger from McDonald's a "good meal"
The Chinese have always eaten a lot , but remained thin because they mostly did hard physical work . Now a lot of people are sitting in the office . They eat three times a day , regardless of whether they are hungry or not , there are long queues in every cafe or restaurant , they always talk about food , it seemed a little strange to me . Of course , fast food is not good , but regardless of this , they would get fat , since they are sitting in the office , there is no activity . In addition , sugar , starch , and a lot of butter are added to Chinese dishes .
It's both food and exercise. I thought traditional Chinese food and ingredients are a lot healthier... Mostly low calories veggies, eating meat sparingly, not much fried foods. Traditional diets are a lot lower in calories too. Combined that with more physical activity back then, of course anyone will be thin. But now more people eat processed, high calorie foods plus don't move much. Of course it's natural to get fat in that situation
How is eating 3 times a day too much?
so eating 3 times a day isn't normal?
@@googoogago1334 it is normal becuse i eat 5-6 times a day
@@Croat955 it would depend on your portion sizes and day to day life, we as a society tend to snack a lot more now though so that could play a part
Fortunately junk food is quite expensive in my place, therefore I couldn't afford it🙂 Still, the local junk food with cheaper prize is everywhere. All of it depend on the people, do not eat greedily.
Hehe i my country too. We had two McDonald's and the one of them is closed because it didn't work good..only one is open in capital.
Wall-E predicted the future of human kind a looooooooong time ago.
The subtitles on this video are quite inaccurate, for example 8:11 , I tried to translate it more accurately:
Mr. Du, will you be worried that your son won’t be able to eat well at the camp for those 40 or so days?
Of course I’m worried that he won’t be able to eat well.
He won’t be eating well but we have no choice but to let him persevere.
He can still be happy when he gets the occasional chicken leg, but normally, it’s only vegetables. [on the camp]
He didn’t mention anything about partying like the subtitles say)
I never understood Mukbangs, I was skinny most of my life then during the pandemic i gained weight, and with that come acne, oily face and chubby cheek. I can't stand looking at myself.
Then I exercised for two months, stopped sugar entirely, eat less than estimated 1500 kcals. Now that I'm back to my normal weight i promise to myself to never get fat again, it's miserable.
The weight loss program at 12min will not work! They need to learn to enjoy doing outdoor activities and weight loss. Enjoy eating healthy. Not punished. The father should take the time to take his child out hiking and show the son healthy and yummy vegetable options. Not feed the child unhealthy and large quantities of food. This just wont work in the long run.
Think about the hours that child and his father spent sitting in a booth and eating for that week. Time that could be spent walking around the block.
Seems like we are doing everything to lose weight except for addressing the fast food industry.
Or just taking personal responsibility to not over eat vast quantities of that fast food every day? That food is perfectly fine when you eat it in moderation, and educate on nutrition etc, it's ridiculous to blame the food for bad decisions
@@beththegreen it’s not ridiculous to blame the food for our bad health. Personal accountability is incredibly important, I agree with you but I’m talking about corporate accountability. It’s not just addictive sugars or added carbs in these processed foods. There’s also chemicals in them that the body cannot break down and this is hidden from the general public. Do you know what’s really in a McD’s burger, chemicals and all? Do you know that there are links between processed foods and diseases? It’s not a coincidence that millions of people die from obesity every year. The food itself is made to be addictive and on purpose. This is something we need to start addressing. We should be removing processed foods from our society as a whole. We don’t need it.
@@beththegreen they wouldn't be billionaire companies if their food wasn't addictive and poisonous. The corporations don't tell you that most ppl that try their food will crave it constantly. The fast food industry needs to use REAL meat
@@beththegreen ye sad but same as the rest of the world that have these chains. Seems like addictive sugary food are cheaper to make or produce
@@Jessica-zs1wt as a fat person who is losing weight its up to people to eat less and less fast food.
This is just going to raise a whole generation with disordered eating and body image issues. They should start by banning all fast food restaurants, junk food being sold in shops should be limited and should have to have minimal nutritional requirements. Then schools, families and the general public should be encouraged and educated in eating a more traditional diet with healthier food. Exercise should be encouraged only in fun ways (these camps are terrible and not going to have any long term impact) but exercise is not the solution to weight loss when people are still eating more calories than they burn. Finally working hours should be limited to give people the time to cook and spend time with their families.
this 🙁,, most people around the world don't even know what a calorie is and how important it is to be healthy
@@ithinkcats Thats the great thing about most traditional ways of eating, they were relatively healthy without people having to know much about calories or health. Lots of vegetables and little meat. Now a-days with all the junk food and fast food, people have to be knowledgeable to understand what is healthy and what is not. And like in this video the general public thought the fast food was healthy because they trusted the big companies but the big companies are evil and just out for getting money, they dont care.
This is impossible. Fast food is one of the most profitable businesses on Earth, no one will ban it and no one will be happy if it were to be banned.
Traveled extensively through China since 2015. Yes, I wanted to walk in to the McDs and KFCs and yell at the top of my lungs, STOP! This food will kill you!!!!!
Again as we in the states have learned (maybe?) is that DIETS DONT WORK! It is lifestyle changes, portion control, drink water, and work out somehow…..walk at least!
Those fat camps are going about it the wrong way. Losing weight quickly will lower your BMR and THAT is why the weight will always be gained back
The kid at 17:00 is just one of the sweetest people I ever heared talking. What an absolute fine young man. Top class kid
It's hard to see the psychological reasons of obesity and other health problems. From what may have started as loneliness can become an unhealthy habit. And me only being a freshman in high school who doesn't have much real world experience I do know that one of the most impactful reasons for health issues is trend and what the media shows what it considered "popular".
So basically it seems as if the fight against obesity in China is much the same as how it looked in the U. S. About 10-15 years ago into today when the biggest loser was most popular. I wish I could say we here in the US had learned from our biggest loser mistakes and that overconsumption of hyper palatable food had declined along with people thinking they can out exercise a bad diet but sadly we’re worse off now. Also we have messages here (as it seems is starting in China too) now saying being fat is not bad for your health anyway so just love your body no matter what size and don’t worry about being obese. Food industry is in the pockets of government and humans are going to eat garbage if it’s cheap and easy and movement is not imperative. SOME messages of slowly working on overall health habits and improving food quality and watching calorie intake is coming around to infiltrate fad diet garbage messages but we’ve got a long way to go to improve our health as a nation, not to mention the state of our mental health or lack thereof.
This why the US is in a Type 2 Diabetic crisis. An uncontrolled lifestyle, overeating led us to this pass. Covid & food shortages will dissuade us from hyper indulgence. Better late than never ...realization in 2 nations.
y’all got like 20 different fast food restaurants that are extremely popular
It’s also a case that older people don’t consume a lot of expensive cuts of meat. Spending 10 yuan per meal for them is enough, and yes they move a lot. They grew up with nothing, so it doesn’t take a lot for them to feel satisfied and save 90% of the rest of what money they have for other things.
I really enjoyed the video, even hoped it could be longer, good job!
I remember something like this growing up in Singapore -- I was asked to/ forced to join a "fatty's social club " , where the authorities hoped that a combination of shame and ridicule would get teens to lose weight. Who knew it only increased anxieties and unhappiness and got people to eat more ?
I never thought that China would have an obesity problem, knowing their unfortunate past, they have indeed prosper throughout the years.
Obesity is a serious problem in China now, and almost every family is worried about it.
China’s rise in obesity? Call me when you get to the summit with the US
China always wants to beat America, let's let them have this win lol
It’s easy to eat alot and gained weight but it’s so hard to lose weight.
I actually struggle to gain weight tbh
And China says they don’t want to be like America
Very true. Who would want to be like America? Full of murders on the street and alcoholics, radicals and who knows what else. In fact, the average percentage of U.S. obesity of its population is 43% while China's is a mere 5%. Anyone can search it up themselves on the internet.
The only way to except your over-weighness is to call it curvy rather than fat. Changing the name of it doesn't change anything.
I mean a little bit of fat can be sexy af especially in women,I prefer curvy women to skinny ones ..of course we are talking about curves not layers
I thoroughly enjoyed this documentary. Thank you.
this should be put on national television
its very very well made
wow think I'm lonely but this level of loneliness is far deeper
17:00 THE KID IS ADORABLE OMGGG THE WAY HE TALKS ABOUT HIS FAMILY AWWW IM CRYING
I just have to as a native Chinese speaker, not all the subtitles are translated correctly. Some subtitles are changed to make the scenes more dramatic or more evil than it it, not surprising but come on bruh. I also noticed some of the music is purposely made more sad in some scenes but isn’t that biased? I kinda wish documentary’s could just be unbiased sometimes, it’s quite annoying to see people twisting the words of my native language
That’s terrible
Okay, native chinese speaker here. The captions do encapsulate what they're trying to say, but i can come up with better ways to translate it. Also, sometims they add things that they didn't even say in the first place. For expample, at around 7:00 a boy and his father eat at a restaurant, he never he never said anything about breathing, he said "我一天不吃饭的话呀，人都。。。“ He stumbles on his word and doesn't finish the sentence. sometimes when poeple stutter, they add words in that they didn't say. i know it's hard to caption a 50 minute documentary, but the bad captions are just annoying me too much
It is true, the few obese people I saw in China a few years ago are mainly younger men and women under 30 years old. Other than overeating, having too much sugar in the drinks is a hidden bomb. A cup of drink may have calories more than 2 big bowls of rice. Many people did not realize the problem until they were troubled with symptoms of diabetics. In recent years, many countries impose fines for the drink manufacturers if the sugar added exceeds the regulated amount. Many fast-food networks replace all free drink refill with only sugar-free soft drinks. However, sugar-free drinks also have their downside, therefore we should consume them in moderation.
Sugar in China may become the cheapest item compared to other countries in the world, it only takes you 1 USD for 1 kilo🤣
stop having flavoured drinks and have water. Problem solved
My son is in Beijing. He wasn’t particularly overweight at 6’2” and 238lbs. He stopped drinking Coke and Beer, drank much more H2O and began bike riding. After 7 months he is down to 180lbs.
@@vivianjones9749 Very good news! Congratulations! His BMI dropped from 30.6 to 23.1. 23 is a good number.
BMI Categories:
Underweight =
@@vivianjones9749 wow great
This was very interesting to watch; I got a glimpse of modern China and what's going on over there.
I looked it up, and it said that 32.5 percent of Americans were overweight, so doesn’t that mean that even though China’s population is around 4-5 times more than China’s, they have the same amount of overweight people?
irs sad how the teenagers r being sent to weight loss camps when the parents bring them the food.
*grandparents, the parents are at work