@@MybeautifulandamazingPrincess I agree. Today's cartoons are too simplified and too similar to one another. All of the simplified series are mostly comedic and the story telling is horrible. I don't see any creativity in western animation and story telling that's good very often any more. I wish that the American companies and TV stations would see that there's not enough variety in the art styles and the stories that are being told. And what ever happened to the morals that the shows used to show and give like in the 80s and 90s? I feel that kids are being deprived of good television these days.
There is almost no variation in shows that are actually being shown as well. Cartoon Network has only shown Teen Titans Go for the past week. It is literally the only show on right now. I grew up with gumball and want to watch that but Teen Titans Go is only shown and it makes me annoyed. Quick edit: i decided to check if it’s still only Teen Titans Go on right now and realised it’s been well over a week and is still the only show on.
@@mrsnekk1304 One summer I spent time at a family friend's since our house burned down. They had cable, and I got to see a lot of good shows. But TTG was almost every single slot all day, with only a few other shows on sporadically. I absolutely hated that moronic dribble, and they constantly advertised it as their most watched show. And, I mean, yeah, if you run one show 18 hours a day it will be your most watched show by default.
My biggest problem with the new art style is how cheap it looks. Just hear me out. Maybe I am the only one who feels this way, but I feel like the old art style in western cartoons was so much more detailed. Now everything looks so simple and easy to draw. I guess it’s because it takes them less time to make new episodes, but still….more details makes the story come more to life, you can see more emotion in character and it just makes the entire cartoon more expensive to look at and interesting watch
I think it's more just repetition than simplification. Heck, Samurai Jack and Powerpuff Girls were extremely simple, but they used their simplicity in very creative ways!
Yeah, infact the Ducktales and Animaniacs reboot kind of inspired me. Some months ago I was struggling with drawing eyes for some reason (mybe some weird cases of art block), so I resulted to the Animaniacs-Ducktales-esk bean eyes, and it's been a part of my art style since.
@@mawile2468 I agree but I think it's kind of like the oversimplified style in general it's going to get over saturated and as an audience we are going to get tired of it very soon. Just to be clear I love the DuckTales reboot and I'm very excited to give the animaniacs reboot a chance just like he talked about in this video when an art style is successful executives like to push that style on new shows, so I expect it to be everywhere very soon and it's going to wear thin. Just the fact that the animaniacs reboot does look like the DuckTales art style is kind of an indication of that trend
For me this artstyle is an extension of the "corporate artstyle" problem. Executives are no longer want to take risks on new shows so they encourage copying of successful shows similar to the situation where corporate branding leans heavily towards the same non offensive overly simplistic designs so that brands can remain neutral when showing off their brands and not having any sort of ideas attached to it
@@conradmbugua9098 pirate streaming sites dont count for views, as they dont give any money to the tv chanel. but if you mean payed streaming services, you notice a lot of unique artstiles,or mostlly anime
As an artist I love details! I hate how they are so over simplified it looks almost lazy and I understand some people have that art style bt they put there taste in it.
I miss when cartoons where badass and I'm not just talking about the action and animation of example a cartoon with amazing stories and a beautiful art style... let me interduce you to Batman: The Animated Series from 1992 to 1995 and it's animated film spin off Batman: Mask of the phantasm from 1993
So I guess they're officially backpedaling on the Ben 10 Reboot not being a part of the OG Ben 10's multiverse. It should've been that way from the beginning.
I'm so glad I'm not the only one annoyed at western animations' artstyle. I miss Phineas and Ferb. I mean, where else can you see a main character whose head is a literal triangle? Now that is different.
Honestly ghostfreak terrified me as a kid, and I think changing the art style makes him go from terrifying villain to comedic villain and something is lost there
I think thats another problem with some shows nowaday. Nothing scary or the like, nothing to challenge a younger audience. Yeah we got Bill Cypher and some stuff in steven universe. But for the most part it gets fewer and fewer. With the ben 10 reboot being a good example of that. Trying to give the show a second chance recenlty, but it really is kind of difficult. Like I was watching an episode where ben was trapped in a nightmare realm, and one of the "scariest" things he meet was his teacher... not deformed or creepy lightning. Then in another he meets a cursed wood bear who would probably fit well into the original powerpuff girls... but not into ben 10, or at least not in the way he was portraied there. I was really like "Well on its own, its actually a pretty need concept... it's just the wrong show" Or take this cartoon villain, who came to live. He doesn't have much of an impact if the show itself already looks highly cartoony.
Can we just call the artstyle, "Sans mouth" and be done with it? The moment anyone smiles in these shows, all I can think is, "hehehehehehe, wow papyrus, I'm in (insert show here)!"
Something I'm noticing with the art style is a lack of color scheme diversity too. The color scheme in shows like Chowder, Teen Titans, and Avatar the Last Air Bender all had color schemes that set the mood and atmosphere of the show. The color schemes in more recent shows are all very bright and it's reminiscent of being in a candy store that only sells one type of candy. I feel like the color scheme is just as important as the geometry of the characters as well as textures instead of simple filled colors.
Oh definitely. I think that the bright colour palettes which are supposed to “appeal to kids” are actually having a negative effect. We need diversity in that area too.
I also want to mention that animation is hard and complex character design that is more detailed will take more budget to animate and it won’t be as smooth, the remedy though to a less detailed design is good lighting. For me I can take one con for a good pro. One of my favorite shows right now the Owl House doesn’t have detailed characters but the fights are very smooth and well choreographed so I don’t mind the style being simple
There’s an old saying that I learned from my older sister who works as a chef. “You eat with your eyes first.” After all, the phrase, “Feast your eyes,” doesn’t exist for no reason. She said that when it comes to preparing meals. I feel the same can be said when it comes to animation.
I never heard anyone else know that saying. Im gonna guess you're european or that your friend is. I heard the saying too 'you eat with your eyes first'
From someone who went to an art school, the biggest issue is that America is trying too hard to differentiate itself from anime. People like anime and its expressive eyes so some people like to draw in that style but are told their style is too anime so they are forced to change it. Even Japanese people who go to an American art school have been told they can't draw anime which is such bs I can't even begin to want to crush. Like, let people have their own style. It's why webtoon is so popular because the range of art styles is vast and isn't policed like crazy. I hope more webtoons get their own shows to diversify the field
This is why I had to NOPE the hell away from animation when I was in the process of picking my degree when I was transitioning from high school to uni. I don’t want to feel the need to justify my reasons for willingly draw in a recognizably anime style while also making it my own. Speaking of which, it makes me wonder about the Japanese international students at my uni who take the same art classes as me. Though I can’t imagine them coming all the way over to CA to get an animation degree when there are tons of other animation schools in Japan that offer similar level of education without the extra hurdle and biases where teachers saying anime isn’t a viable art style.
@@EdwardNewgate58 I mean, saving time is a good thing if you're saving time on the meaningless parts so that you can spend more time on the important parts. Trouble is that some people decided that a style that saves all the time was the way to go.
That or just became super weebs and started reading the mangas and realizing how diverse art styles can be in a hand drawn medium Made in Abyss looks like a painting Jujutsu Kaisen looks like chicken scratches and looks amazing AOT went from dog shit art to one of my favorites Chainsaw Man looks like scribbles and its beautiful All the little to no screen tone mangas with harsh colors like Noragami and Bakemonogatari (the manga of Monogatari is nothing like the light novel or anime lol) Now whats on my mind is that the Chinese government will let us keep our land and ocean lol, also i gotta sleep since i gotta wake up at 4am haha
I don't think that's necessarily true. Kinda seems like a chicken or the egg kind of question, but I do think you may have a point that there's some kind of connection. I just think more people, kids and otherwise, have become more open to anime in their animation diet, myself included, because of the boring sameness and mediocre writing of a lot of western animation (plus greater ease of access through streaming). Also worthy of note is the general lack of western action-drama cartoons (with a few notable and almost entirely great exceptions) over the bulk of the last decade. They used to be extremely prominent in the late 80s through 00s, maybe even early 2010s through about 2011-2012 if we want to push it (though they were already on the decline and quickly being prematurely cancelled by then). They were just about as prominent as the comedy-centric animations for ages, and many people of all ages really liked a lot of them, but it seems like around the turn of the last decade or so, networks largely decided to gradually abandon action-drama cartoons with more complex art styles (and attempts at more mature/nuanced writing to boot) because they didn't rake in enough merchandise revenue, and executives believed that they were too complicated to quickly create and animate as many as possible on the cheap. I think that is precisely why we got the ubiquity of the really basic, bare bones, bean head style across the board, and why relatively few of them fell into the action cartoon category which caused the hyper focus on the comedy category like the video pointed out. Merchandise revenue (and appealing to "the wrong demographics") is precisely why an action cartoon gem like Young Justice originally got cancelled before it's glorious renewal on streaming the greater part of a decade later.
I really love the style of Amazing World of Gumball, because while the Wattersons art style may seem a bit generic, the rest of the characters are insanely creative! Like you got stop motion, puppetry, ocasional anime, flat, 3D, everything you can think of! Even live action! It’s great!
Trueee~ when I first saw it back then, I was just appalled by the plethora of differing art styles and experimentation they put in that show. I was thinking like damnn! the passion they put into this, like animation wise, it definitely looks challenging, but GOD were they sooo~ good! Still thinking about Susie who's practically a human's chin xD I really appreciate the thought and hard work they put into it.
@@weirddude9367 cuz those cost more CEOs will use the cheapest style they think they can get away with what did you think they would do reuse Yachts for there biweekly parties?
I personally believe the reason why Western animation artstyles have stagnated is because animators don’t want their animation to be too expensive because studios are less willing to spend a lot on animation
Something studios can do is be more creative with cost reducing measures. Animes (if you know where to look) can be creative, look great, know where to reduce cost and still have their own style. There are other factors but still.
@@weirddude9367 Thing is anime while looking ''samey'' does still have way more variety and does still usually make the charaters look more different then cartoons have been for awhile now..people who watchs enough anime and more modern cartoons can easily tell that
@@gruckusgrackus5815 Yeah that too and also looking at cartoon credits a pattern can be noticed of the people working on most modern shows that are very''Samey'' and also when things headed that way you notice more and more of the same names popping up where now its almost solely the same names over and over where as before way more people working in animation when we had all sorts of cartoon genres and styles even to choice from you had way more people on projects then
idk how to describe it but does anyone else see the weird like noise in a lot of the backgrounds in og ben 10? ive been watching it (its so good tara strong and meagan smith is a perfect duo) and ive never seen it before. not even complaining its just odd
@@adamxue6096 Yeah, Pikachu isn't the only one that gets cloned when they need to make another 100 mons or so for a new region. An actual conversation I had one time: *Me:* **Talking about something I did with my Vivillon in Pokémon Rumble World, I don't remember the specifics- it was years ago** *Other guy:* "Which one is Vivillon again?" *Me:* "Newer-generation Butterfree." *Other guy:* "I thought that was Beautifly." *Me:* "Beautifly is Gen 3, Vivillon is Gen 6. Vivillon also has different variations with wings that come in like 20 different colors or so." *Other guy:* "Shows you how much I've been following Pokémon. I didn't even know there was another butterfly." In Pokémon's defense there, the real world has _thousands_ of known species of butterflies.
@Samuel Bateman I like Pachirisu too. Who needs an electric mouse when you can have an _electric squirrel?_ ^~^ Emolga's kind of cool, but it feels like a copy of Pachirisu- at that point a copy of a copy. *...But flying squirrels are adorable enough that I don't care and still like it too! ;^)*
Imagine a show that had three art styles that changed between moods, a soft round cal art for the comedy, a hard anime like style for fight scenes, and a gradient detailed style for drama.
The most unsettling part is how i've actually seen far more effort and artstyle variety on preschooler cartoons than in most CN shows. Just look at Max & Ruby, Pip & Posy or Elinor Wonders Why. All of them have consistent character designs and much more lively artstyles, and those shows are aimed at kids even younger than CN's target audience who won't care at all if the artstyle is good or not.
Max and Ruby is quite old, though so before everything started looking the same. Those other two shows do look pretty unique, but I do feel like most early childhood shows have more unique styles still today than those for kids in the typical “Cartoon Network” demographic
Powerpuff girls used to have a simple yet unique artstyle with sharp black contouring lines. I don't even know how they could ruin it in the reboot. It looks... eh
I’ve never been a huge fan of the “bean” art style. But the backgrounds in those shows (Steven Universe, Gravity Falls, and Big City Greens) are outright magestic.
Im just gonna say this to anyone who got triggered by these day shit cartoons, you should visit Vivziepop, that channel has the greatest cartoon art style for me, not bean stuff and the characters just stand out so well with different body and face anatomy (one of the greatest things that shows the creativity of the designer aka also the director and sometimes) the voice actor
"What is missing?" Maybe personality? Maybe is not to underestimate the viewer? Or maybe just not assume that a kid is ok with whatever they draw because "their taste in art is not very developed yet"? Or maybe EVERYTHING?
@@watchforever1724 that plays a very important role too A lot of modern kid shows have very uninspired designs, sometimes to the point where they blend in with the background characters lol
tHeY aRe KiDs, ThIs Is A kID sHoW, fOr KiDs. ThE aNImAtIoN dOSeN't HaVe To Be GoOd! I honestly hate that argument, you are basically saying kids are stupid and they don't deserve actually quality so they should get half assed poorly made tv shows with no imagination. How is that ok?
I think it does a disservice to Gumball, Gravity Falls and Adventure Time to have them included here. While elements may have been lifted for inferior shows, those three are far more visually inventive than just about anything I can think of.
Same goes for Steven Universe because people think the show was responsible for the creation of "Cal-arts style" despite the fact that the creator, Rebecca Sugar, was educated at the School of Arts at New York. Yeah, I think the GIF that proved that Cal-Arts style is an issue simply because shows like Gumball, Steven Universe, or Star vs the Forces of Evil are similar is very inaccurate.
8-31-23 In fact, The Amazing World of Gumball doesn't really have ONE "art-style". I mean, look at everyone. You have 2D animated characters like The Wattersons, Carrie, Sarah, Penny, Tobias, Masami, etc, 3D animated characters, like Tina, Banana Joe, Principal Brown, Ms Simian, etc, and a Live Action Chin Puppet in the form of Sussie. And even then, all of their character designs are extremely different. They aren't just the same base character design, they are all different. Gumball is a cat, Darwin's a Fish with Legs, Carrie's a Ghost, Banana Joe is essentially a 3D Banana with 2D art providing the arms, legs, and face, almost like a Robot Chicken Character, Tina's a GIANT T-REX, Sarah's an Ice Cream Cone, etc. Gravity Falls' more simplified art-style is juxtaposed against the Monster Designs, especially the Main Antagonist, Yfii Zfmebo. Oh, I mean, Bill Cipher. The simpler Main Characters/ Human Character Designs make the monster designs feel more alien and less "belonging in the world". And Adventure Time's Simplified Art-style is so iconic, that it's special. Especially characters like Finn and Princess Bubblegum. They have such simple designs, that they are iconic. And again, they are juxtaposed against others, like the Lich. Those three cartoons are not examples of bad art-styles. They all fit well with the way the shows work. The style matches the show.
It's been years since I watched omniverse but there was like Grey Matter that could canonically change the artstyle I think. Why don't they use that as an excuse to bring back the Anime style ?
Honestly this is a reason I love the Rise of the TMNT's artstyle. Not only the animation itself is absolutely MAJESTIC but the artstyle is unique. The animators were not afraid to use sharp shapes for the designs and I love that
@zalamazu exactly! It's so overhated just because old tmnt fans want the same thing for 40 years straight. I honestly LOVE the anime vibes in the finale especially
Something that I noticed is that a lot of modern western animations all purposefully have the main characters be children, around the same age as their target demographic. I think that makes the shows unappealing on both sides, because I remember being attracted to shows like Teenage Robot, As Told by Ginger, and Teen Titans due to them being older. The protagonists were characters I could look up too and learn from. This wasn't true of all shows back then, but I think having really diverse main character ages lead to the shows themselves being diverse in artstyle.
Exactly. I'm getting tired of seeing children protagonists around 12 - 14 years old for every modern cartoon. I remember back cartoons had a huge diverse age like Samurai Jack, Justice League, Johnny Bravo, PowerPuff Girls, Rugrats, Ben 10 - Ben Omniverse, and Courage the Cowardly Dog.
Kids today must be easily impressed seeing how long teen titans go lasted, also I blame Cartoon Network for pumping out so much 🗑 that looks the same and they don’t really talk about anything like shows use to.
@@rd9669 And to think, maybe that dreadful reboot wouldn't be so dreadful if it wasn't so Overexposed. I think Teen Titans Go works fine as a short lived Parody of shorts that make fun of The Superhero Genre, maybe on RUclips. Of course, because this show has been on the air for almost a decade, pumped out more than 300 episodes, and had constant marathons on Cartoon Network's schedule at the expense of other shows, It's definitely not funny anymore. The Go Titans are like The Minions from Despicable Me, they're ok in Small Doses, but *NOT* in Giant Doses. Of course, some argue TTG was never funny in the first place, so it all depends on your opinion.
I think it's mainly the overly oversaturated colors, the lack of shading, definitely the overuse and the over the top simplification in most of them. I also think they make the head to body ratio too lopsided, so they look like kids with really big heads
Even when I was in animation school, I was given a harsher grading because I didn't use the typical cartoon style that is what is seen now. I think that's why I feel like the art in animation now a days just feels bland and emotionless. When SU came out I loved the style, but now it's seen EVERYWHERE.
I am in art school currently and I saw people go more for this weird simplistic style. Some folks go to this simplistic style because it's the least time-consuming, especially when using rigs on Toon Boom. While I seen a handful use other methods, my current thesis would use the traditional method of 2D character animation. It also doesn't help that with folks wanting to do more rigging there is only a handful of us out there. While there are some teachers that encourage us to use this more stylized style we loved to see, the way the industry is set up and the school trying to mimic it makes it difficult to go these creative routes resulting in simplistic styles we see too commonly. Maybe things would change since some companies are requiring folks to know 2D frame by frame as well as rigging after the success of the movie Klaus. If it makes you feel any better I'm starting a studio trying to bring that more stylized art style, but since I am a one-man army at this point while trying to finish a thesis, this will take some years for me since i would need to generate attention, get funds for equipment and a location. For now, it's just me and my cintiq. working stuff.
I feel like anime is just as generic these days. I think it’s very rare that a popular anime branches out from the bland cookie cutter style I always see. I think shows like mob psycho 100, devilman crybaby, jojos bizzare adventure, beastars, and Demon slayer are good examples of modern shows that break the mold stylistically and excel at it. I personally love art styles that stand out and show more creativity and individuality than the industry standard. Not to say that most modern anime looks bad but I do think there’s significantly less diversity in art styles these days.
@@cannibalsamic You do know JoJo is very, very heavily 80s anime style? Like, it was originally drawn and stylized alongside stuff like FotNS when big muscle-man was the go-to aesthetic. It only stands out today because that style died off hard, and it's basically JoJo and Dragon Ball that still carry it on. I do have to give credit to Beastars though. Going with almost entirely CGI was a massive risk, but makes them really stand out. Most companies use CGI to save time on complex characters(Genos from OPM), but they made it work really well.
What I liked about Gumball was when it changed animation style, like in the Ollie when Gumball started riding the skateboard and when Nicole and Yuri started straight up anime fighting.
Well fight seen aren't that good with cartoon style mainly because it's a wacky or more comedic while anime style is perfect for fight seens just look at star wars vision they just perfect lightsaber combat while others were held buck .
There's a reason why some of the best animation I have ever seen comes from individual artists rather than corporate-made shows. With individuality comes freedom. There's no one up above to tell you what to do, because you're creating it for yourself, not for anyone else. That said ... "Animation is a medium, not a genre" The Japanese: *nervous laughter* I couldn't resist 😁
Ducktales reboot could've really helped out here. Thats how you modernize and simplify a style while keeping it visually fresh and a style thats unique to itself.
That's because they already had a unique art style as a base, they just touched up on it a little with some modern stuff. It's a shining example of how you should do a reboot, both plot-wise, and art wise. Many other so called "reboot" cartoons aren't really reboots at all, they are factory resets.
That's what I loved about Gumball. It had a variety of Animation Styles not just 2D animation, but Stop Motion and 3D as well. Actual effort was put into this show.
@@disneyvillainsfan1666 They were clearly having so much fun making it and it made it even more delightful to watch. It also fits how it's a "parody/gag" show to have such unique art styles, and I'm so glad something like Gumball was made!
As an Art Director for a few of these I totally agree with your research and feel stuck when having to do a lot of these same things. Most of the time these are decisions that are made from executives to fit inside their networks "Brand" along with advice from older generations that have worked on successful prior properties but I think that will obviously change now that things are oversaturated like you said and will also force people to be a little more creative and think outside of the box. Also also a lot of creators that are either writers or comedians that create adult animation normally rely on the networks opinion on where a shows design should go. Good things coming in the future!
the word "weeb" has lost its meaning so much... reminder: a weeb is an overweight american man who wants to be japanese because he thinks its all anime so please dont call yourself a weeb
"Drawings that don't have feeling, drawings that are just made and they're mechanical, just sort of turn into something that's anatomical and mechanical, they're never going to thrill anybody who's looking at them." - Don Bluth.
This pretty much expresses how I feel about a lot of the smooth, vector art used in modern animation. It doesn't thrill me. It can look technically good, but lacks some deeper layer. Also, I'm a Don Bluth fan and happy to see him mentioned/quoted. The facial expressions of his characters always amazed me.
@@jocelynburrows1482 vector art can look amazing, when you know how to use it. Line variation can really make it pop, helping draw your eyes to certain areas of the piece. Unfortunately, it seems like most shows with this medium use the same line weight overall, making it look very uninteresting.
@@sweep8311 That is fair. Often times a lot of mediums are sadly misjudged by the quantity of mediocre use of it and not enough by the more stellar examples. For that matter, most tools get bad rap by their misuse. I guess my issue is the over saturation of the same line weight making things look flat and uninteresting.
I need to be able to feel the motion of the action in one of my drawings before I'm throughly satisfied. It's also how i end up with so many scrapped doodles.
audience: we want cartoons with better art styles! animation studios: sorry audience, i cant give you attention, come back when you're a little, mmmmmmmmmm, important!
@@sonicthehedgehog1606 I won't say I cry about art style. But art style is part of what gets me to consider watching a show. Like, I still haven't watched jojo's bizarre adventure because I think the characters look weird. And I stopped watching the reboot of ben 10 because I had low expectations the second I saw the art style. I mean, you can tell there was something about og ben 10 that made the style unique and it caught my interest. Og art style says "funny, yet mature." Reboot art style says "trying too hard to be comedic and goofy". I feel the same when it comes to teen titans and teen titans go
@@sonicthehedgehog1606 Lmao, then why are you you here if you are tired of people complaining about this art-style? This video is specifically made for those who dislike these new cartoony art-style. At this point you are being an idiot. If you know these comments are guaranteed to appear, then screw off.
Ed, Edd n’ Eddy is considered the funniest animated show on Cartoon Network because of the abundance of slapstick, fourth wall breaks, and various hilarious moments littered throughout!
Ima be honest, Gumball's artstyle being mix with other artstyles makes it stand out more compared to the other shows. Like sure, we can see the same simple looking artstyle of gumball, but is nobody gonna talk about how great the show mixes in with 2d and 3d with styles that are both cartoonish and realistic?
One of the most insane things about gumball show is that even 2D characters have precise 3D shadows and reflections. Even from the first episode, it still blows my mind.
I missed the more detailed animations back in early 2000s. 2010 cartoons and beyond just simplified everything... Edit: Wow! 1k likes! Thanks for the likes! I was just missing the good old days of cartoon shows I used to watch.
@@Nick-zp6wm No literally there’s currently a gif of a shiba inu animated in two different styles and people are talking about how each style takes lots of work and shouldn’t be judged or ridiculed... and while I kinda agree, the animation and art style nowadays has changed and nothing is super complex or detailed. The only cartoon that I can think of and animator that has that 2000’s style is Rad Sechrist creator of Kipo.
The animated side of Netflix is the only reason why I like them, Netflix sucks sometimes, but at least they're open to different art styles in all their animations.
The worst part about the new Ben 10, I think, is that Ben looks like how a 30 year old sees a 10 year old and not how a 10 year old sees a 10 year old. He looks like someone snapped a picture of an 8 y/o with a new shirt playing with his McDonald's toy, rather than a fun kid summoning his cool alien super powers.
Is it kind of weird when you think about it that networks tried to appeal more to kids when portraying them in their shows not as their kid viewers would see themselves I guess those bright colors were that captivating.
Exactly. When I was 10 years old, I loved Ben 10 because it felt badass. It made me feel badass my association. I don't think I ever would've liked the new version of Ben 10.
Chalk Zone is an honorable mention too seeing as its unique style set it apart from the rest. Doug, Ahh Real Monsters, numerous 80's action animations like Pirates of Dark water and Centurions, KaBlam! , 2 Stupid Dogs, Cow and Chicken, Dexter's Lab, Freakazoid, Beetlejuice, Mike Lou and Og... Its as if animation studios don't dare color outside the lines anymore and stick to the formula for success given by the execs that are targeting the younger audience that doesn't realize there are options in art style.
I will ALWAYS praise the World of Gumball for its art style because of how unique and wonderful it is. 2D art, 3D graphics and ever real-life shots went into this, but everything is really balanced and works as eye candy. Plot, humor and character development is on top too! Literally peak. ... And you know how Into the Spiderverse revolutionised big screen animation? I wish Gumball would cause the same effect on regular kids tv shows. But no. Everything goes in a direction of making animation too easy for bigger profit. I'm just becoming allergic to very round artstyle because its everywhere, and gives the same vibe as corporate art. It doesn't bring joy. Its not interesting to look at.
this also might be the reason why I love The amazing world of gumball ... yes the watersons and other characters are sort of simplified but if you look at the other characters in the show, all of them are so unique and has their own twist into them which made it entertaining and not boring since in each episode you're not stuck on one art style
I love that show for the fact that half the time the characters talking are in two different animation formats entirely. Heck one of the characters isn't even animated!
True. In fact, you could probably slap any character from any show in their original style and it would fit perfectly in the setting... So many missed opportunities for crazy crossovers...
@@HeyItsRed_ for me it’s just plain fun to watch. The plot is very interesting, there are even a few cliffhangers in the series so far. (Not gonna spoil anything but I definitely recommend) There are also some moments like in this video where the animation is just amazingly fluid and just so well done. The perspectives are also great in these sequences too :)
Yeah, art style is one of the most important things about any animated show. Its what I was thought in art school, “make it your own, a silhouette can make or break your show. “
In my opinion, and from my limited knowledge, I feel like there is a basic concept that Western animation needs to adapt from Eastern animation: Sakuga, and all the limited animation inbetween. For anyone who doesn't know, in Anime, Sakuga means the sequences with particularly high quality of animation. They're animated on ones (meaning every single frame is a new drawing), show lots of detail and are generally just very beautiful and nice to look at. These are typically fight sequences or scenes with a big emotional impact, as well as anime openings. These are expensive, and animating entire episodes or series like this would not be doable for a lot of studios, so for less important or action loaded sequences, the animation is dialed back, details dropped, and individual frames shown for a long time with maybe some camera movement. If you've ever watched an anime, it won't be hard for you to think of a dialogue scene where nothing except for the characters mouths is moving. For something like that, you have to draw a single frame, six or less different variations for the two mouths, and you have a 20-30 seconds sequence. Another common strategy for less important action or motion sequences are speed lines. A very obvious version of this that isn't as popular anymore is the speed line background, which has characters in front of a background that basically consists out of a mess of lines that underline their motion. You need two or three different frames for those lines to have a background for the entire sequence, and you can get away with fairly few character drawings by moving them across that background. These are just specific examples. What's important here is the general concept: Change the detail and quality of the animation throughout the episode to have both high quality sequences and low cost. If your budget is tight, make the Sakuga sequences shorter, or allow the limited animation sequences to change to a more simplistic style sometimes (if done well, you can accentuate story beats this way without creating additional cost). Because the Sakuga sequences exist, it is easy to kind of "overlook" these lower quality sequences, as well as mentally fill in some of the details you saw elsewhere. For some reason, executives in Western animation seem to believe that consistency in detail, animation frame rate and style is more important to their audiences than a great art style that fits the story and high quality (expensive) animation in the right places. Maybe this is because of tradition or risk avoidance, maybe it's because they think children are too stupid to understand that an inconsistently animated character still is the same character at all times. What I do know is that thanks to its approach to animation, Anime can be produced at a relatively low budget and still include amazing sequences. The budget doesn't determine the art style or the quality itself, it basically just controls the amount of Sakuga.
one thing that's always thrown me off with newer cartoons like these is that they are so...smooth? I don't know how else to put it, but I don't like it. The older cartoons are more rough, I guess...which I find more pleasing to look at. That's obviously a personal preference, but yeah. It just feels like a computer did all the work and no love went into anything.
You're not wrong. Pixar for example kept the same animation style for toy story 3 as they had in toy story 1 so they don't change how ppl look at the animations and the whole movie in general
I suspect part of it is due to using a vector art style, which _by default_ yields smooth shapes and perfect contours. There's simply no texture to the linework....
Yea. Maybe cuz many of the old cartoons were drawn in hand/2d like Ed Edd n Eddy. Then there were a mix/blend in the late 00´s/start 10´s and now eveything in tv is so smooth.
United States of America needs to redeem and redefine artery, we don't appreciate artist's as often as we should in the name of law. I wouldn't mind practicing my art skills on achieving bodies, I'm only an abstract artist, I don't enjoy the idea of executives telling you something's too risky; it's best to take risks, as a risk I would draw a child character in the most beautiful way possible and study the human psychology afterwards as part of some scientific revolution; in other countries they're always ahead in that. I HATE utterly HATE how much they condescending towards children in cartoons and animations in general.
I miss the 90s and early 2000s era. The variety of animation was so vast and unique. 1 show that stood out to me that is Courage the Cowardly Dog. The animation in that show was so mindblowing half of the time. They used 2D, 3D, pixel and even claymation to intensify the spooky atmosphere of the world.
I would love to see a video of yours specifically talking about so-called adult animation and its many, MANY problems. from being noticeably derivative in it's art style to the gross-out "comedy" meant to set it apart as something mature, getting your take on it would spark some neat conversation I think
Honestly I prefer the wider range of animation styles from early 2000's because they were wide enough of different without being so different that they couldn't do crossovers. The good thing was that they also made every character look interesting in some way.
I'm afraid the same thing is going to happen to Hazbin Hotel now than it's bought by a tv-company. Honestly, the vividness and the character of the art style and the animation is so outstanding on the pilot episode, that I'm afraid the company will now kill any creativity and simply use it as a money making machine until nothing is left 😓 (also, I'm not an USA citizen so I'm afraid I won't even ever see any more episodes if they won't be published in the youtube 😭)
Gumball is great since while the main characters have that usual bean shaped simplified design, the rest of the world is dynamic as heck that even one family is literally peoples heads upside down on top of a green screen.
For me, I really liked Ever After High's art style. Sure, it is by no means simple. But it gives that character's depth and the show's whole entire atmosphere. The character designs, the shows story, the vibrant colors, and the diversity. Everything looks in place and recognizable.
One problem I've had is that, growing up, the style of animation told you what kind of cartoon you were about to watch. The highly simplified cartoons were either for very young audiences or were comedy. A more detailed, serious style was for action cartoons. There was some overlap, but as a kid I liked action cartoons because they had plot and conflict. Some modern cartoons have the plot and conflict, but because they're so simple and cartoony-looking I can't view them that way. Even if they have a serious moment, the bean face is keeping me out of the moment, so I don't even look at a lot of these cartoons because I'm not interested in goofball comedy and I never have been.
What I want is animation that is *pretty.* I mean, call me whatever you want, I like watching pretty shows. If a show has a wonderful story but hurts me to look at, I'm not gonna watch it. The visuals are half the experience. I want something impressive and beautiful to match the story, which is why I've been getting more into anime than Western animation
( despite my like anime) you are traitor and also adventure time, regular show and steven universe tho I do feel there's going to be another dark age of cartoon coming let us hope it doesn't come
That's very true. This is the reason I havent watched and turned down watching shows that could have had amazing potential if it hadn't been for the same artstyle, the same story, the same characters/personalities, and the choppy or cheap animation. This makes the show and characters look lifeless and it just makes me go to sleep, when it should make me want to do the opposite.
I don't know MUCH about this subject... But I really liked the art style of Rapunzel's Tangled Adventure. I thought it was like watching a painted fairytale illustration come to life and I don't know why but it reminds me of playing paperdolls. Maybe because of how seamless and flat everything looks, like characters were cut out of the page, colored in and shaded, then pasted into a backdrop instead of just drawing a picture and coloring inside the lines. And the color palette is so pretty and enchanting with lots of golds and pinks and purples and teals. Ithink it's like Carmen Sadiego which was also aesthetically pleasing. Here's hoping the way people loved the art style in Into The Spider-Verse makes more changes. I think the Simple Style is pretty dang ugly, personally.
Easterner here And if you want even crazier art, check out the mangas of some of these shows, JJK has one of the scratchiest mangas ive ever seen, Made In Abyess looks painted at times, Chainsaw Man is scribbles and it looks amazing, and late AOT is easily one of my favorite shonen manga styles Berserk is considered beautiful, Claymore as well, and well.....pretty sure a Vagabond adaptation can only be made through a live action samurai movie since its so realistic
@@undercomposition the sameness is in respect to tropes not storyline and art. Also beautiful drawings you can watch over and over bc of the effort and detail.
Actually I feel like this is just a phase that the animation industry goes through sometimes. Even all the way back in the 1920s and early 30s the animation industry had a similar "art style problem" where every major studio had nearly the same art style. A main character who was an animal with a mostly black body, white rounded eyes, and a white muzzle, along with round bodies and, by the late 20s, rubberhose limbs. Felix and Krazy Kat started this trend, and in the 20s numerous characters followed, such as Julius, Oswald, Weakheart the Dog, Bimbo, Paul Terry's Henry Cat, Bosko, and Mickey Mouse himself. By the 40s and 50s, studios had developed distinct and individual styles. I feel like this is a repeat of what happened back then and that it's probably only temporary.
I completely agree! The same thing happened in the 80s with all the early morning cartoons as well; they all ended up having a very similar art style for quite a long time.
Its a cycle. Studios keep on dumbing down animation, to cut costs, until its almost a stick figure. People will of course hate it. And then someone comes out with the brilliant idea of putting some *actual* *work* into the art, and it'll expose the rest of the industry for doing cheap and lazy art. So all the other studios try to copy the success, by doing quality animation, and the cycle starts again.
I mean, the 20-30s weren’t a phase, they were the beginning. They didn’t have televised series (or television, which all chalks up to accessibility). They were simplified because animation was MUCH harder- you had to sacrifice details in order to just move along. These (contemporary) studios have made a name for themselves. And yet it feels like they’re un-developing in style. I honestly think that divide is more from how long the animation had to be. I’m not an expert on animation and I’m not trying to sound critical of this comment specifically. Just thought that there may be space for a loophole and went with it
I feel like ben ten's first artstyles worked best because of the whole gimmick of the show. You were seeing new creatures on a daily basis, lf course it would be the best idea to have an anatomically more detailed art style. Now it just feels like toned down versions and toys instead of real aliens.
exactly! if you dont have realistic proportions and anatomy, you cant see the abnormality of the proportions being completely different from normal. thats what makes them look like actual aliens.
The original series wanted to contrast between earth and alien, so realistic art style was used. Alien Force focused more on the fighting and action, so Justice League art style, slightly simpler and easier to animate, was used. Omniverse was very stylised because the focus was on travelling throughout a wonderous cosmos rather than fighting.
Vaugely unrelated but Rapunzel's Tangled Adventure is an amazing show, with a vastly different art style for modern kid's meadis and a great soundtrack with some broadway level songs by the end of the series in which I currently can't recommend because doing so would provide spoilers, watch it it's great and you can tell the crew put a lot of care love and effort into it, you'd not only be supporting an amazing show but also telling executives that they really don't have to play it safe to be successful in modern media Like seriously, it's only three seasons and has flown _way_ under the radar for it's quality
This is why I feel like artists like Vivziepop will start to excel in adult animation, as her art style is very eye-catching and it flows gorgeously like water. If I had to describe it, I say it looks like fire, and moves like water. I've followed her art since 2014. And I am so beyond proud that she is gaining so much popularity. I hope she is able to change the future of adult animation because I can't stand family guy and Simpson's clones.
This is why I'm showing my little siblings the older cartoon I grew up with. Kids today deserve good contents like the old days so I'm just going to let them watch my childhood shows instead. And surprisingly, they enjoyed them even more than the modern cartoons shown today.
There's just something care-free and funner with the old cartoons. Something that kids love and why they watch these shows to begin with. Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends, Ed Edd n Eddy, KND. These new copy-paste looking shows lack the fun the others had... - The creatives behind these barely get a choice of what to do anymore, or are severely limited, thanks to _heavy_ corporate medeling. Execs have taken the artist from their easel and sat an accountant down, entrusting them to make just the right brush strokes to bring in the most cash. -basically artists aren't the ones making it anymore, it's the accountants and businessmen at top. - No risks, minimum effort/resources spent, maximum gain. The product? Who cares, whatever brings money by any means. All this just sucks the soul out of what made cartoons fun. And that creative experienced people don't have a say on subjects of creativity anymore- even if they came up with it, like Ben 10 being turnt from anime to family guy against all creative nerves screaming.
@@everwildart3563 That's true. I will miss it, but I do think that it caused (or was caused by) an unblocking of the pipeline for richer shows. Before GF, most of the post-2007(ish) cartoons were shallow and not worth watching. GF was the first in a while to care about continuity, the lore, the writing, and the world building. Now more and more new shows are starting to care about these things, and I like it.
@@swiftfox3461 Yeah. Back around the 2005-7 era I decidedly moved on to anime because the new art style and their content felt way too dumbed down compared to the Hannah-Barbara material I was used to back in the 90s. Then our regional slots on CN were taken up by regional cartoons (Indian animation. I will vomit a wall of text if you get me started.) and I felt like hey, kids have better taste than this. They'll reject this crap for sure. Looking back now, I kinda forgot how easy it is to get someone to like what is the only thing on offer.
**Implies "puppet animation" isn't dedicated** **Thunderbolt Fantasy has entered the chat** -I'm kidding btw. I understand by "puppet animation" you meant 2D CG like stuff made with programs like Adobe Animate and Toon Boom.- X^D
Something I actually said to my mom recently was that I'd live to see Disney put out another 2d animated movie. Just to kinda see it again, y'know? I love the 3d work Disney is doing, and as an artist I can appreciate all the hard work that goes into it, but my mother and I both agreed we'd love to see it again. Just a 2d animated movie with actual thought out into it- not a remake- just a nice story to enjoy
@@Z.A.N.E They tried that with *The Princess and the Frog-* they had already pretty much moved on to 3D by the point that one came out, and... **Looks it up real quick** *HOLY SHOOT,* that came out *over a decade ago?! o_0*
Most cartoons nowadays feels lifeless, and it feels dumb, there is no fluid movement, it's not as.. real to me (idk). It feels more like they stand there and talk instead of exist ;-;
"I think the only time people really have value is when they act according to their own will" - Shogo Makishima Personal art styles will always triumph the safe and corporate feel.
It is worst than that. People who go into Art (even fanart), are encouraged to "go simple" and "do not overwork themselves". A Girl from my fandom association simply goes to EVERYBODY who likes to draw, and says: "Your art style is cool but too complicated, you should simplify it, to get more likes and to create more arts quicker". And if You struggle to get better at what you are drawing, and ask for criticism, or what you could do to be better. All you will get from her it will be something like "Why you bother with that, it is stressing you" or " Just draw simpler, why you bother yourselves with practicing, you waste your time." She ALWAYS prises everything that was made with minimum effort, but if you actually tried to get better, she will discourage You. And she is not the only one, she often posts links to videos and articles, pushing a similar approach.
this is bullshit. go on and do what you feel, is art fost god sake, it suposed to be the freedom itself. Do it as complicated as you feel, an a lots of peaple will really really apreciate that. I will for sure
As an artist... it's best to use both simple and complex drawings. They understand that in Japan. They save the highly detailed art for the highlights of their chapters and covers. But they also use very simple drawings for some other things. Knowing when to use what is what one needs to do.
This was a good video. My only complaint would be the use The Loud House footage seemingly as an example of modern cartoon art styles looking the same, because that show honestly has a really distinct look with its comic strip inspired aesthetic.
To be honest, I get that people may say "ouh, modern animation starts sharing more art style traits" but so did early Anime, so did different shows from the same creator/s. And personally, I don't see that much overlap. It's all more simplified but still comes with enough difference to make out which show it's from. Maybe it's in the way the character designs are represented, but I thinkn it really comes down to how the simpler design philosophies and art style traits are handled in each show and design!
I understand that. But it's the Morden day for both now. Anime has more art styles that differentiates because they have the money to do so. Cartoon studios have the money but choose not use it.
I will still never forget that the creators of Johnny Test and the creators of Wakfu use the same animation software, but there’s clearly a difference that the French understand and put their all into with animation that American shows do not. And the French have got a HEFTY amount of great animation under their belt be it collabs, or straight up from them, from Wakfu, to Lolirock, Totally Spies, to Oban: Star Racers, to even how innovative Code Lyoko was. I hope some American animators learn from them. And that’s not to say I don’t like the simplified stylings. I get it. Cartoons aren’t meant for me anymore as an adult. But I guess I miss the diversity of art styles.
Ngl when I saw the transformations and the story and tbh the transformations actually looks painful but the story was good also the idea of Kevin being kinda a psycho and having Kevin stuck with every alien parts on his body plus he can use their powers but he maybe forgot about ghostfreak and grey matter brain plus making ghostfreak a villain seems right
@@Honestlynothingelse The story was as awful. Kevin being able to make the Omnitrix, the most powerful device with a bunch of pliers and screwdrivers was complete bs. Also Ben wins almost every fight with low budget animation and disappointing visuals. As a fan of the entire series the reboot imo was a joke like the teen titans reboot.
Hilda, Kid Cosmic, and Kipo I would say are absolutely different in styles and animation. Netflix’s diversity nowadays is actually awesome. I hope Netflix continues the different styles
I loved what Craig and his team did in Kid Cosmic, in fact, all of Craig's shows looked distinct from each other. Don't know if he's the one responsible for the character design, but Powerpuff Girls, Foster's, Wander Over Yonder and Kid Cosmic are very different looking from each other
the problem is some of these shows are hand drawn, like kid cosmic (i think it is). some shows need simpler styles to do that, especially if there’s a lot of scenes with tons of characters or movement in them. that’s why anime is usually really choppy animation, since the characters are super detailed most of the time. i agree though that some shows should be more detailed especially if they use animation rigs, but hey, not my decision. thanks for your perspective on the matter though, i think it’s pretty valid :)
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This makes meme "Please don't turn me to oversimplified logo!" apply for modern cartoons
I agree. I hate the new pringles logo.
@@adecentartist1474 Dude that shit is cursed for no reason
Yes
Facts
It applies to a ton of different branches of design unfortunately...
All i know is that modern cartoons have an incessant fear of triangles and concave curves
Also detail, the fact that we can say the old Hanna Barbera cartoons like Scooby-Doo have more detail and effort put into them is not a good thing.
Well, at least Gravity Falls had a reason to fear triangles...
When I see 80s anime and compare it to nowadays animation. I become baffled, how can the quality drop so much?
@@MybeautifulandamazingPrincess I agree. Today's cartoons are too simplified and too similar to one another. All of the simplified series are mostly comedic and the story telling is horrible. I don't see any creativity in western animation and story telling that's good very often any more. I wish that the American companies and TV stations would see that there's not enough variety in the art styles and the stories that are being told. And what ever happened to the morals that the shows used to show and give like in the 80s and 90s? I feel that kids are being deprived of good television these days.
@@cezarcatalin1406 That's true.
14:14 "Kids continue to like this because television has given them LIMITED VARITY"
That's sums up everything wrong with animation nowadays
Check out Moomin/ムーミン, that's significantly unique in comparison of things in modern days.
There is almost no variation in shows that are actually being shown as well. Cartoon Network has only shown Teen Titans Go for the past week. It is literally the only show on right now. I grew up with gumball and want to watch that but Teen Titans Go is only shown and it makes me annoyed.
Quick edit: i decided to check if it’s still only Teen Titans Go on right now and realised it’s been well over a week and is still the only show on.
Moomin is good!
Though it is also made by Finnish people, free from... big corporations.
@@adamxue6096 interesting, i will watch it 😁
@@mrsnekk1304 One summer I spent time at a family friend's since our house burned down. They had cable, and I got to see a lot of good shows. But TTG was almost every single slot all day, with only a few other shows on sporadically. I absolutely hated that moronic dribble, and they constantly advertised it as their most watched show. And, I mean, yeah, if you run one show 18 hours a day it will be your most watched show by default.
My biggest problem with the new art style is how cheap it looks. Just hear me out. Maybe I am the only one who feels this way, but I feel like the old art style in western cartoons was so much more detailed. Now everything looks so simple and easy to draw. I guess it’s because it takes them less time to make new episodes, but still….more details makes the story come more to life, you can see more emotion in character and it just makes the entire cartoon more expensive to look at and interesting watch
Yes!!!
Agreed
I hate adult cartoons
And revivals
I think it's more just repetition than simplification.
Heck, Samurai Jack and Powerpuff Girls were extremely simple, but they used their simplicity in very creative ways!
I like how the Ducktales Reboot went in the opposite direction and took on a more angular style with Pac-Man eyes.
This is also why people liked the Animaniacs reboot.
Yeah, infact the Ducktales and Animaniacs reboot kind of inspired me. Some months ago I was struggling with drawing eyes for some reason (mybe some weird cases of art block), so I resulted to the Animaniacs-Ducktales-esk bean eyes, and it's been a part of my art style since.
Yeah it was
@@mawile2468 I agree but I think it's kind of like the oversimplified style in general it's going to get over saturated and as an audience we are going to get tired of it very soon. Just to be clear I love the DuckTales reboot and I'm very excited to give the animaniacs reboot a chance just like he talked about in this video when an art style is successful executives like to push that style on new shows, so I expect it to be everywhere very soon and it's going to wear thin. Just the fact that the animaniacs reboot does look like the DuckTales art style is kind of an indication of that trend
Rubberhose era eyes if you will
“It is important to draw wisdom from many different places. If we take it from only one place, it becomes rigid and stale. ” - Iroh
Wise words bro ,wise words bro
Thank you Iroh, needed that
Dude, we _all_ needed that. Thank you Iroh and thank you you
Thats rough buddy
Ah yes, a quote from a fictional character.
*That moment he starts putting pictures of different shows and you are actually confused if they are from the same or not*
Exactly, that is what I thought!
It's looked all the same, it waste the time to recognize it...
Just turn off your volume and watch as he demonstrates the same cartoon 14 different times
What his video called what is calarts
Trust me he is a nuthead to say that
Yeah
That’s the problem of Mordor cartoons
They start to get hard to define which is from which
For me this artstyle is an extension of the "corporate artstyle" problem. Executives are no longer want to take risks on new shows so they encourage copying of successful shows similar to the situation where corporate branding leans heavily towards the same non offensive overly simplistic designs so that brands can remain neutral when showing off their brands and not having any sort of ideas attached to it
To be fair, fewer people watch TV, so they must reduce animation budgets
Streaming sites?
@@conradmbugua9098 pirate streaming sites dont count for views, as they dont give any money to the tv chanel. but if you mean payed streaming services, you notice a lot of unique artstiles,or mostlly anime
As an animator
I agree
As an artist I love details! I hate how they are so over simplified it looks almost lazy and I understand some people have that art style bt they put there taste in it.
yep, honestly, simple art styles, like all things, are great in moderation
@@spiritualdanger Agreed
Yep *This reminds me of the same issue with the original sonic movie.*
I miss when cartoons where badass and I'm not just talking about the action and animation of example a cartoon with amazing stories and a beautiful art style... let me interduce you to Batman: The Animated Series from 1992 to 1995 and it's animated film spin off Batman: Mask of the phantasm from 1993
America to Japan 20 years ago: lol, all of your cartoons looks same
Japan to America now: lol, all of your cartoons looks same
It hilarious that it is true😅😂
Very true lol
😂
THATS SO FRICKIN TRUE and some anime’s don’t have the same art style too so America wth are you doin
Yes but anime stills looking alike comparing one to another, at least anime art style is more apealing
Tbh indie cartoons have more diverse art styles than network cartoons
Indie cartoons have always had more diverse styles though, it's not new.
I miss Canadian cartoons like total drama and 16
There's more diversity, but less budget to keep it long lasting.
So I guess they're officially backpedaling on the Ben 10 Reboot not being a part of the OG Ben 10's multiverse. It should've been that way from the beginning.
@@lucariomew365 ikr
I'm so glad I'm not the only one annoyed at western animations' artstyle. I miss Phineas and Ferb. I mean, where else can you see a main character whose head is a literal triangle? Now that is different.
Ahhh Phineas and Ferb. One truly incredible show.
And the best part ia that they even joked about it
"Ferb, look! That building looks like your face"
Yes
Lol
@@aphrodite4419 Ahhh Perry the Platypus, you’re just in time to behold, MY ANIME-INATOR!!! Turns all shows to anime.
Honestly ghostfreak terrified me as a kid, and I think changing the art style makes him go from terrifying villain to comedic villain and something is lost there
Yeah he was meant to be unsettling so without those harsher lines it kinda....falters.
Really does take away a lot from the show when aliens don't look "cool" anymore
Ikr
@@DaDualityofMan like stink fly he looks like a joke now
I think thats another problem with some shows nowaday. Nothing scary or the like, nothing to challenge a younger audience. Yeah we got Bill Cypher and some stuff in steven universe. But for the most part it gets fewer and fewer. With the ben 10 reboot being a good example of that.
Trying to give the show a second chance recenlty, but it really is kind of difficult. Like I was watching an episode where ben was trapped in a nightmare realm, and one of the "scariest" things he meet was his teacher... not deformed or creepy lightning. Then in another he meets a cursed wood bear who would probably fit well into the original powerpuff girls... but not into ben 10, or at least not in the way he was portraied there. I was really like "Well on its own, its actually a pretty need concept... it's just the wrong show"
Or take this cartoon villain, who came to live. He doesn't have much of an impact if the show itself already looks highly cartoony.
Can we just call the artstyle, "Sans mouth" and be done with it? The moment anyone smiles in these shows, all I can think is, "hehehehehehe, wow papyrus, I'm in (insert show here)!"
yes.
Deeeep breath:
Proceeds to list every new cn and nickelowndeon show
I love that much more than hearing the “Cal arts style” all the time
Hello!
The sans mouth style seems like a better name than Calarts. Plus it kinda makes more sense
Something I'm noticing with the art style is a lack of color scheme diversity too. The color scheme in shows like Chowder, Teen Titans, and Avatar the Last Air Bender all had color schemes that set the mood and atmosphere of the show. The color schemes in more recent shows are all very bright and it's reminiscent of being in a candy store that only sells one type of candy. I feel like the color scheme is just as important as the geometry of the characters as well as textures instead of simple filled colors.
Oh definitely. I think that the bright colour palettes which are supposed to “appeal to kids” are actually having a negative effect. We need diversity in that area too.
Straight fax
If you like color schemes I think you’ll like Carmen Sandiego
If you like color schemes I think you’ll like Carmen Sandiego
I also want to mention that animation is hard and complex character design that is more detailed will take more budget to animate and it won’t be as smooth, the remedy though to a less detailed design is good lighting. For me I can take one con for a good pro. One of my favorite shows right now the Owl House doesn’t have detailed characters but the fights are very smooth and well choreographed so I don’t mind the style being simple
There’s an old saying that I learned from my older sister who works as a chef. “You eat with your eyes first.” After all, the phrase, “Feast your eyes,” doesn’t exist for no reason. She said that when it comes to preparing meals. I feel the same can be said when it comes to animation.
_After all, "Feast your eyes" doesn't exist for no reason._
I guess the phrase is the friend we made along the way.
@@poweroffriendship2.0 lol
I never heard anyone else know that saying. Im gonna guess you're european or that your friend is. I heard the saying too 'you eat with your eyes first'
@@FinestFantasyVI Nope. I’m naturally born in & raised in the U.S. Understandable guess, though.
@@Trunkalunx interesting, i never heard an american say that saying
From someone who went to an art school, the biggest issue is that America is trying too hard to differentiate itself from anime. People like anime and its expressive eyes so some people like to draw in that style but are told their style is too anime so they are forced to change it. Even Japanese people who go to an American art school have been told they can't draw anime which is such bs I can't even begin to want to crush. Like, let people have their own style. It's why webtoon is so popular because the range of art styles is vast and isn't policed like crazy. I hope more webtoons get their own shows to diversify the field
This is why I had to NOPE the hell away from animation when I was in the process of picking my degree when I was transitioning from high school to uni. I don’t want to feel the need to justify my reasons for willingly draw in a recognizably anime style while also making it my own. Speaking of which, it makes me wonder about the Japanese international students at my uni who take the same art classes as me. Though I can’t imagine them coming all the way over to CA to get an animation degree when there are tons of other animation schools in Japan that offer similar level of education without the extra hurdle and biases where teachers saying anime isn’t a viable art style.
@@tadashihatsudai Here, in Southeastern Asia, my art teacher hates anime the most, he even goes to say that anime is not art LMAO
@@Khann_2102 by saying that did he get a spot for vengeance?
@Tom Ffrench I couldn't agree more 👍 i hate them
@Tom Ffrench they have shit taste smh
I think the sudden flood of Beanface in modern animation is because of the success of great shows like Steven Universe and Gravity Falls.
That and it's easier to draw, so that way they can save time and ultimately money.
@@EdwardNewgate58 That’s probably a big reason why and it honestly makes me a little sad.
@@missing_name Yeah, it's almost like going back to the repeating backgrounds of the Hanna-Barbera era at this point.
It's just like Marvel movies.
Virtually everything is trying to just replicate the same sort of humor.
@@EdwardNewgate58 I mean, saving time is a good thing if you're saving time on the meaningless parts so that you can spend more time on the important parts. Trouble is that some people decided that a style that saves all the time was the way to go.
I have this theory that western studios decided to focus on little kids 'cause they realized teens abandon western animations for japanese animations.
That or just became super weebs and started reading the mangas and realizing how diverse art styles can be in a hand drawn medium
Made in Abyss looks like a painting
Jujutsu Kaisen looks like chicken scratches and looks amazing
AOT went from dog shit art to one of my favorites
Chainsaw Man looks like scribbles and its beautiful
All the little to no screen tone mangas with harsh colors like Noragami and Bakemonogatari (the manga of Monogatari is nothing like the light novel or anime lol)
Now whats on my mind is that the Chinese government will let us keep our land and ocean lol, also i gotta sleep since i gotta wake up at 4am haha
I don't think that's necessarily true. Kinda seems like a chicken or the egg kind of question, but I do think you may have a point that there's some kind of connection. I just think more people, kids and otherwise, have become more open to anime in their animation diet, myself included, because of the boring sameness and mediocre writing of a lot of western animation (plus greater ease of access through streaming). Also worthy of note is the general lack of western action-drama cartoons (with a few notable and almost entirely great exceptions) over the bulk of the last decade. They used to be extremely prominent in the late 80s through 00s, maybe even early 2010s through about 2011-2012 if we want to push it (though they were already on the decline and quickly being prematurely cancelled by then). They were just about as prominent as the comedy-centric animations for ages, and many people of all ages really liked a lot of them, but it seems like around the turn of the last decade or so, networks largely decided to gradually abandon action-drama cartoons with more complex art styles (and attempts at more mature/nuanced writing to boot) because they didn't rake in enough merchandise revenue, and executives believed that they were too complicated to quickly create and animate as many as possible on the cheap. I think that is precisely why we got the ubiquity of the really basic, bare bones, bean head style across the board, and why relatively few of them fell into the action cartoon category which caused the hyper focus on the comedy category like the video pointed out. Merchandise revenue (and appealing to "the wrong demographics") is precisely why an action cartoon gem like Young Justice originally got cancelled before it's glorious renewal on streaming the greater part of a decade later.
Or they just watch western live action shows instead
The irony is that more teens and adults would keep watching western cartoons if they actually offered more variety of shows not aimed at little kids
Or just both my guy -_-
I really love the style of Amazing World of Gumball, because while the Wattersons art style may seem a bit generic, the rest of the characters are insanely creative! Like you got stop motion, puppetry, ocasional anime, flat, 3D, everything you can think of! Even live action! It’s great!
Trueee~ when I first saw it back then, I was just appalled by the plethora of differing art styles and experimentation they put in that show. I was thinking like damnn! the passion they put into this, like animation wise, it definitely looks challenging, but GOD were they sooo~ good! Still thinking about Susie who's practically a human's chin xD I really appreciate the thought and hard work they put into it.
Crazy how Ben 10 made Cartoon Network billions of dollars and they can’t afford to give it a suiting complex anime artsyle
It doesn't have to look like anime to be complex
Its not because they cant afford it
its because the less they spend on it the more they have for yacht parties
@@An_Ian i mean why anime artstyle ? they can try realistic or semi realistic.
@@weirddude9367 cuz those cost more CEOs will use the cheapest style they think they can get away with what did you think they would do reuse Yachts for there biweekly parties?
I love the Ben 10 reboot alot
"I fear no child, but that thing..."
*Edges and triangles*
"It scares me."
And then you just have Phineas and Ferb, which is like 75% triangles.
@@yaitz3313 dang it i was gonna say that
lol 😂
Weirdly immediately think Bill Cipher
EDGING?!
I personally believe the reason why Western animation artstyles have stagnated is because animators don’t want their animation to be too expensive because studios are less willing to spend a lot on animation
Something studios can do is be more creative with cost reducing measures. Animes (if you know where to look) can be creative, look great, know where to reduce cost and still have their own style. There are other factors but still.
@@josesosa3337 The majiority of anime have similar artstyle and the western animation puts more budget in cartoons.
@@weirddude9367 Thing is anime while looking ''samey'' does still have way more variety and does still usually make the charaters look more different then cartoons have been for awhile now..people who watchs enough anime and more modern cartoons can easily tell that
@@gruckusgrackus5815 Yeah that too and also looking at cartoon credits a pattern can be noticed of the people working on most modern shows that are very''Samey'' and also when things headed that way you notice more and more of the same names popping up where now its almost solely the same names over and over where as before way more people working in animation when we had all sorts of cartoon genres and styles even to choice from you had way more people on projects then
@@gruckusgrackus5815, they also ignore creators or talented individuals.
The original Ben 10 came out in the mid 2000s and the art style still holds up till this day.
Agree
You can thank Bruce Timm and his influence over 90s and 2000's action cartoons.
idk how to describe it but does anyone else see the weird like noise in a lot of the backgrounds in og ben 10? ive been watching it (its so good tara strong and meagan smith is a perfect duo) and ive never seen it before. not even complaining its just odd
My dude went hard enunciating every sentence as uniquely and bombastically as possible.
New around here?😶
As a 1st time viewer that really grinded my gears too lol.
He spoke so clearly that I never realized lmao
I don't know what the hell you said, but O-kay!
:D!
I can’t unhear it 😔
Animation now is like every Pokémon generation having a pikachu clone. They all look different but they also all obviously mimic pikachu.
Mimikyu was genius though. It's like a creepy parody of all the Pikachu wannabes.
@@ChaosRayZero and has diffrent types
Mimikyu best Pikachu
Though honestly speaking most "generic bird/mouse/bug" pokemon throughout generations are pretty fine all things considered.
@@adamxue6096 Yeah, Pikachu isn't the only one that gets cloned when they need to make another 100 mons or so for a new region. An actual conversation I had one time:
*Me:* **Talking about something I did with my Vivillon in Pokémon Rumble World, I don't remember the specifics- it was years ago**
*Other guy:* "Which one is Vivillon again?"
*Me:* "Newer-generation Butterfree."
*Other guy:* "I thought that was Beautifly."
*Me:* "Beautifly is Gen 3, Vivillon is Gen 6. Vivillon also has different variations with wings that come in like 20 different colors or so."
*Other guy:* "Shows you how much I've been following Pokémon. I didn't even know there was another butterfly."
In Pokémon's defense there, the real world has _thousands_ of known species of butterflies.
@Samuel Bateman I like Pachirisu too. Who needs an electric mouse when you can have an _electric squirrel?_ ^~^
Emolga's kind of cool, but it feels like a copy of Pachirisu- at that point a copy of a copy.
*...But flying squirrels are adorable enough that I don't care and still like it too! ;^)*
Imagine a show that had three art styles that changed between moods, a soft round cal art for the comedy, a hard anime like style for fight scenes, and a gradient detailed style for drama.
Thats looks awesome
Now make a gofundme for it
Literally any anime.
@@_____________a_a uhh... no?
Kinda sounds like Gumball
The most unsettling part is how i've actually seen far more effort and artstyle variety on preschooler cartoons than in most CN shows. Just look at Max & Ruby, Pip & Posy or Elinor Wonders Why. All of them have consistent character designs and much more lively artstyles, and those shows are aimed at kids even younger than CN's target audience who won't care at all if the artstyle is good or not.
Holy shit just checked all those shows out and. Damn. All their artstyles are so unique!
Freaking Paw Patrol and them constantly adding more designs
Max and Ruby is quite old, though so before everything started looking the same. Those other two shows do look pretty unique, but I do feel like most early childhood shows have more unique styles still today than those for kids in the typical “Cartoon Network” demographic
Powerpuff girls used to have a simple yet unique artstyle with sharp black contouring lines. I don't even know how they could ruin it in the reboot. It looks... eh
They murdered powderpuff girls. Why on earth did they think having thin lineart would look good?
I’ve never been a huge fan of the “bean” art style. But the backgrounds in those shows (Steven Universe, Gravity Falls, and Big City Greens) are outright magestic.
they are
I know
Im just gonna say this to anyone who got triggered by these day shit cartoons, you should visit Vivziepop, that channel has the greatest cartoon art style for me, not bean stuff and the characters just stand out so well with different body and face anatomy (one of the greatest things that shows the creativity of the designer aka also the director and sometimes) the voice actor
@@anhtunguyen781 YES
@@CAT-2323 so you just did what I told you or you knew it before
"What is missing?"
Maybe personality? Maybe is not to underestimate the viewer? Or maybe just not assume that a kid is ok with whatever they draw because "their taste in art is not very developed yet"? Or maybe EVERYTHING?
Seriously
I hate how people use the "it's for kids" excuse to justify being lazy. It's so insulting, kids deserve better shows
I agree but the issue is character designs for modern shows isn’t all that great
@@watchforever1724 that plays a very important role too
A lot of modern kid shows have very uninspired designs, sometimes to the point where they blend in with the background characters lol
Everything, dude. EVERYTHING!!!!!
tHeY aRe KiDs, ThIs Is A kID sHoW, fOr KiDs. ThE aNImAtIoN dOSeN't HaVe To Be GoOd!
I honestly hate that argument, you are basically saying kids are stupid and they don't deserve actually quality so they should get half assed poorly made tv shows with no imagination. How is that ok?
I think it does a disservice to Gumball, Gravity Falls and Adventure Time to have them included here. While elements may have been lifted for inferior shows, those three are far more visually inventive than just about anything I can think of.
Same goes for Steven Universe because people think the show was responsible for the creation of "Cal-arts style" despite the fact that the creator, Rebecca Sugar, was educated at the School of Arts at New York. Yeah, I think the GIF that proved that Cal-Arts style is an issue simply because shows like Gumball, Steven Universe, or Star vs the Forces of Evil are similar is very inaccurate.
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In fact, The Amazing World of Gumball doesn't really have ONE "art-style". I mean, look at everyone. You have 2D animated characters like The Wattersons, Carrie, Sarah, Penny, Tobias, Masami, etc, 3D animated characters, like Tina, Banana Joe, Principal Brown, Ms Simian, etc, and a Live Action Chin Puppet in the form of Sussie. And even then, all of their character designs are extremely different. They aren't just the same base character design, they are all different. Gumball is a cat, Darwin's a Fish with Legs, Carrie's a Ghost, Banana Joe is essentially a 3D Banana with 2D art providing the arms, legs, and face, almost like a Robot Chicken Character, Tina's a GIANT T-REX, Sarah's an Ice Cream Cone, etc.
Gravity Falls' more simplified art-style is juxtaposed against the Monster Designs, especially the Main Antagonist, Yfii Zfmebo. Oh, I mean, Bill Cipher. The simpler Main Characters/ Human Character Designs make the monster designs feel more alien and less "belonging in the world".
And Adventure Time's Simplified Art-style is so iconic, that it's special. Especially characters like Finn and Princess Bubblegum. They have such simple designs, that they are iconic. And again, they are juxtaposed against others, like the Lich.
Those three cartoons are not examples of bad art-styles. They all fit well with the way the shows work. The style matches the show.
The fact that the Ben 10 reboot was going to have an anime art style but the exects said no really upsets me.
Wait what?
@@schemar17 second, wtf. I can guarantee that the anime style would have had a better following than this garbage.
@@IGamingStation like yeah come on cartoon network the reboot is held back by the goofy artstyle
lol. ^^"
It's been years since I watched omniverse but there was like Grey Matter that could canonically change the artstyle I think. Why don't they use that as an excuse to bring back the Anime style ?
“Animation is a medium, not a genre” bars.
Yeah... exactly...
Brad Bird, aka the author of this quote, is a sacred entity of animation and should be treated as such
- Barsimson 1780
It doesn't rhyme though
Gumball proves again that he is better than everyone else
haha yes
@Zin's meme palace thanks for this, man 🤝
Yup
*Bruno Mars*
@Zin's meme palace No
Honestly this is a reason I love the Rise of the TMNT's artstyle. Not only the animation itself is absolutely MAJESTIC but the artstyle is unique. The animators were not afraid to use sharp shapes for the designs and I love that
I was just about to comment this!! More people should watch Rise it's so good.
@zalamazu exactly! It's so overhated just because old tmnt fans want the same thing for 40 years straight. I honestly LOVE the anime vibes in the finale especially
It looks like arachnid - verse and dog in socks
I love that show so friggan much. That and the Lego Monkey Kid show are two wildly underappreciated cartoons.
@@Go_away__sadly not a lot of people loved it
Something that I noticed is that a lot of modern western animations all purposefully have the main characters be children, around the same age as their target demographic. I think that makes the shows unappealing on both sides, because I remember being attracted to shows like Teenage Robot, As Told by Ginger, and Teen Titans due to them being older. The protagonists were characters I could look up too and learn from. This wasn't true of all shows back then, but I think having really diverse main character ages lead to the shows themselves being diverse in artstyle.
Exactly. I'm getting tired of seeing children protagonists around 12 - 14 years old for every modern cartoon. I remember back cartoons had a huge diverse age like Samurai Jack, Justice League, Johnny Bravo, PowerPuff Girls, Rugrats, Ben 10 - Ben Omniverse, and Courage the Cowardly Dog.
That's why Nickelodeon made Zuko 15. It doesn't make sense
Hasn't this been a common trend since forever? I remember making the same observation as a kid 15 years or so ago, even anime does it.
@@JLacay What the hell how is Rugrats included.
@@monkillazsbasement8942 Because it centered around babies and we don't see that much often.
I think a better name for the "Cal-Arts Style" is "Sans-Head Style". Because let's face it, they all look kinda like Sans Undertale when they grin.
🥺 don't do my boy like this please
that’s depressing
@@inkchip7351 sad part is they already did
@@inkchip7351 and will probably continue to do so
no I think Cal Arts style is a way better name
I don't hate this Art Style, I'm just really really tired of seeing it everywhere.
I agree
Kids today must be easily impressed seeing how long teen titans go lasted, also I blame Cartoon Network for pumping out so much 🗑 that looks the same and they don’t really talk about anything like shows use to.
@@rd9669 yeah it’s insane how long teen titans go has ran
@@rd9669 And to think, maybe that dreadful reboot wouldn't be so dreadful if it wasn't so Overexposed. I think Teen Titans Go works fine as a short lived Parody of shorts that make fun of The Superhero Genre, maybe on RUclips. Of course, because this show has been on the air for almost a decade, pumped out more than 300 episodes, and had constant marathons on Cartoon Network's schedule at the expense of other shows, It's definitely not funny anymore.
The Go Titans are like The Minions from Despicable Me, they're ok in Small Doses, but *NOT* in Giant Doses.
Of course, some argue TTG was never funny in the first place, so it all depends on your opinion.
Well, I _do_ hate this art style. And I think I'm not alone.
I think it's mainly the overly oversaturated colors, the lack of shading, definitely the overuse and the over the top simplification in most of them. I also think they make the head to body ratio too lopsided, so they look like kids with really big heads
Even when I was in animation school, I was given a harsher grading because I didn't use the typical cartoon style that is what is seen now. I think that's why I feel like the art in animation now a days just feels bland and emotionless.
When SU came out I loved the style, but now it's seen EVERYWHERE.
Well your always Welcome to join the world of anime
I am in art school currently and I saw people go more for this weird simplistic style. Some folks go to this simplistic style because it's the least time-consuming, especially when using rigs on Toon Boom. While I seen a handful use other methods, my current thesis would use the traditional method of 2D character animation. It also doesn't help that with folks wanting to do more rigging there is only a handful of us out there. While there are some teachers that encourage us to use this more stylized style we loved to see, the way the industry is set up and the school trying to mimic it makes it difficult to go these creative routes resulting in simplistic styles we see too commonly. Maybe things would change since some companies are requiring folks to know 2D frame by frame as well as rigging after the success of the movie Klaus.
If it makes you feel any better I'm starting a studio trying to bring that more stylized art style, but since I am a one-man army at this point while trying to finish a thesis, this will take some years for me since i would need to generate attention, get funds for equipment and a location. For now, it's just me and my cintiq. working stuff.
Is that biker mice?
I feel like anime is just as generic these days. I think it’s very rare that a popular anime branches out from the bland cookie cutter style I always see. I think shows like mob psycho 100, devilman crybaby, jojos bizzare adventure, beastars, and Demon slayer are good examples of modern shows that break the mold stylistically and excel at it. I personally love art styles that stand out and show more creativity and individuality than the industry standard. Not to say that most modern anime looks bad but I do think there’s significantly less diversity in art styles these days.
@@cannibalsamic You do know JoJo is very, very heavily 80s anime style? Like, it was originally drawn and stylized alongside stuff like FotNS when big muscle-man was the go-to aesthetic. It only stands out today because that style died off hard, and it's basically JoJo and Dragon Ball that still carry it on.
I do have to give credit to Beastars though. Going with almost entirely CGI was a massive risk, but makes them really stand out. Most companies use CGI to save time on complex characters(Genos from OPM), but they made it work really well.
I’m scared to see how Rex... oh look how they murdered my boy
Oh well, at least they maintained the main defining feature of Rex
They left out Secret Saturdays... another Man Of Action cartoon.
@@ItsDaJax I'm glad they did don't want to see them like this
@@Sly9192 Considering how they looked in Omniverse(which wasn't very good) yeah I can't really see them in this direction.
@@Sly9192 Yeah... point taken.
@@goober7959 eh I thought they looked fucking awesome in omniverse
What I liked about Gumball was when it changed animation style, like in the Ollie when Gumball started riding the skateboard and when Nicole and Yuri started straight up anime fighting.
That shows the goal of getting away with certain art styles to make your show more unique
Well fight seen aren't that good with cartoon style mainly because it's a wacky or more comedic while anime style is perfect for fight seens just look at star wars vision they just perfect lightsaber combat while others were held buck .
@Anonymouse They did get the studios to make it I believe and I think they made kill la kill I really don't know
@SqueezeE Cheese I just hope it follow the same format but with older characters the og was perfect no need to change it
Gumball is god like
There's a reason why some of the best animation I have ever seen comes from individual artists rather than corporate-made shows. With individuality comes freedom. There's no one up above to tell you what to do, because you're creating it for yourself, not for anyone else.
That said ... "Animation is a medium, not a genre"
The Japanese: *nervous laughter*
I couldn't resist 😁
Ducktales reboot could've really helped out here. Thats how you modernize and simplify a style while keeping it visually fresh and a style thats unique to itself.
The style of DUCKTALES is one of my favorites. Every time I watch it I want to keep working on my art.
That's because they already had a unique art style as a base, they just touched up on it a little with some modern stuff. It's a shining example of how you should do a reboot, both plot-wise, and art wise. Many other so called "reboot" cartoons aren't really reboots at all, they are factory resets.
How many art styles do you want?
Gumball: YES
That's what makes it so lovable
Gumball is amazing! Well.. was. The older stuff was great, the new stuff is nothing compared to the older stuff.
@@zelithfang2365 I honest to god wish the series at ended at Season 5.
That's what I loved about Gumball. It had a variety of Animation Styles not just 2D animation, but Stop Motion and 3D as well. Actual effort was put into this show.
@@disneyvillainsfan1666 They were clearly having so much fun making it and it made it even more delightful to watch. It also fits how it's a "parody/gag" show to have such unique art styles, and I'm so glad something like Gumball was made!
I can feel Ben on the right getting ready to smash his omnitrix, while Ben on the left looks like a kid just waving its hand with glowing watch.
@@mr.preston1632 the right image is much more dynamic and eye-catching.
@@Tyler_W You just summarized what I was trying to say in my comment, I will now delete my comment for your superior one
Reboot Ben 10 looks like a sparkling Funko Pop, not gonna lie.
@@disneyvillainsfan1666 so true
True
As an Art Director for a few of these I totally agree with your research and feel stuck when having to do a lot of these same things. Most of the time these are decisions that are made from executives to fit inside their networks "Brand" along with advice from older generations that have worked on successful prior properties but I think that will obviously change now that things are oversaturated like you said and will also force people to be a little more creative and think outside of the box. Also also a lot of creators that are either writers or comedians that create adult animation normally rely on the networks opinion on where a shows design should go. Good things coming in the future!
Thumbnail: "what's missing?"
Me a weeb who grew up watching old cartoons: everything
Damn i whole heartedly agree on that sentence
This comment is underrated
Yep
Hey are you my clone?
the word "weeb" has lost its meaning so much...
reminder: a weeb is an overweight american man who wants to be japanese because he thinks its all anime
so please dont call yourself a weeb
"Drawings that don't have feeling, drawings that are just made and they're mechanical, just sort of turn into something that's anatomical and mechanical, they're never going to thrill anybody who's looking at them." - Don Bluth.
This pretty much expresses how I feel about a lot of the smooth, vector art used in modern animation. It doesn't thrill me. It can look technically good, but lacks some deeper layer. Also, I'm a Don Bluth fan and happy to see him mentioned/quoted. The facial expressions of his characters always amazed me.
@@jocelynburrows1482 vector art can look amazing, when you know how to use it. Line variation can really make it pop, helping draw your eyes to certain areas of the piece. Unfortunately, it seems like most shows with this medium use the same line weight overall, making it look very uninteresting.
@@sweep8311 That is fair. Often times a lot of mediums are sadly misjudged by the quantity of mediocre use of it and not enough by the more stellar examples. For that matter, most tools get bad rap by their misuse. I guess my issue is the over saturation of the same line weight making things look flat and uninteresting.
I need to be able to feel the motion of the action in one of my drawings before I'm throughly satisfied. It's also how i end up with so many scrapped doodles.
THEIR FACES LOOK SO SMALL IM ACTUALLY CRYING-
BOI, THEY LOOK LIKE THOSE BABY CARTOONS I USED TO WATCH AND MOFOS COPY PASTED THEIR FACES.
Tucker Carlson
their faces look like how a normal person after eating a whole lemon would look like: all scrunched up and in the middle.
@@EvoluteCreator ??????
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I think Gumball is pretty unique, he managed to combine 2d and 3d and make it not painful to look at.
true It never gave me that vibe other modern cartoons did It is very unique and one of the older of the modern cartoons lie adventure time
audience: we want cartoons with better art styles!
animation studios: sorry audience, i cant give you attention, come back when you're a little, mmmmmmmmmm, important!
It's sad people cry about art style instead of story
@@sonicthehedgehog1606 I won't say I cry about art style. But art style is part of what gets me to consider watching a show. Like, I still haven't watched jojo's bizarre adventure because I think the characters look weird. And I stopped watching the reboot of ben 10 because I had low expectations the second I saw the art style. I mean, you can tell there was something about og ben 10 that made the style unique and it caught my interest. Og art style says "funny, yet mature." Reboot art style says "trying too hard to be comedic and goofy". I feel the same when it comes to teen titans and teen titans go
@@xmant8842 but don't worry. As the video says it seems getting better in art style is getting better
CDI Zelda reference?
@@sonicthehedgehog1606 Lmao, then why are you you here if you are tired of people complaining about this art-style? This video is specifically made for those who dislike these new cartoony art-style. At this point you are being an idiot. If you know these comments are guaranteed to appear, then screw off.
Ed, Edd n’ Eddy is considered the funniest animated show on Cartoon Network because of the abundance of slapstick, fourth wall breaks, and various hilarious moments littered throughout!
Honestly
The animation are sooo fluid too
and the animation and art style was fitting the show's genre, the main characters is kids.
And the sound effects
@@DaDualityofMan There’s an abundance of sound effects the show uses for its hilarious moments of slapstick!
Ima be honest, Gumball's artstyle being mix with other artstyles makes it stand out more compared to the other shows.
Like sure, we can see the same simple looking artstyle of gumball, but is nobody gonna talk about how great the show mixes in with 2d and 3d with styles that are both cartoonish and realistic?
To be honest I think Gumball should be the defining show of the 2010s.
Def. one of top my fav cartoons.
One of the most insane things about gumball show is that even 2D characters have precise 3D shadows and reflections. Even from the first episode, it still blows my mind.
It make it more recognize able with that uniqueness
That why Bluey stood out to me and hooked me, the art style is so simple yet unique
It still kinda looks Beany and squishy though
Hooked you?
I think it was the music is why it’s great to get into that show the artstyle is a mixed bad in my opinion
I missed the more detailed animations back in early 2000s. 2010 cartoons and beyond just simplified everything...
Edit: Wow! 1k likes! Thanks for the likes! I was just missing the good old days of cartoon shows I used to watch.
Same
Animation fans on Twitter would cry if they heard you say this
@@Nick-zp6wm No literally there’s currently a gif of a shiba inu animated in two different styles and people are talking about how each style takes lots of work and shouldn’t be judged or ridiculed... and while I kinda agree, the animation and art style nowadays has changed and nothing is super complex or detailed. The only cartoon that I can think of and animator that has that 2000’s style is Rad Sechrist creator of Kipo.
Obersimplification of logos? A youtuber named RelaxAlax made a video on that' you should check it out sometime.
I miss the 80s
The animated side of Netflix is the only reason why I like them, Netflix sucks sometimes, but at least they're open to different art styles in all their animations.
Like the time that the captain underpants series that the art style is like the comics?
like she-ra babyyy
lol
@@Gabriel-sd1oh luv that show
Mitchell’s vs The Machines is super unique
@@georgesracingcar7701 And it’s super unique
The worst part about the new Ben 10, I think, is that Ben looks like how a 30 year old sees a 10 year old and not how a 10 year old sees a 10 year old.
He looks like someone snapped a picture of an 8 y/o with a new shirt playing with his McDonald's toy, rather than a fun kid summoning his cool alien super powers.
Is it kind of weird when you think about it that networks tried to appeal more to kids when portraying them in their shows not as their kid viewers would see themselves
I guess those bright colors were that captivating.
Blind
Exactly. When I was 10 years old, I loved Ben 10 because it felt badass. It made me feel badass my association. I don't think I ever would've liked the new version of Ben 10.
Exactly! Kids see themselves as powerful heroes, or at least want to. Reflect that to them and you really inspire them.
Exactly.
Chalk Zone is an honorable mention too seeing as its unique style set it apart from the rest. Doug, Ahh Real Monsters, numerous 80's action animations like Pirates of Dark water and Centurions, KaBlam! , 2 Stupid Dogs, Cow and Chicken, Dexter's Lab, Freakazoid, Beetlejuice, Mike Lou and Og...
Its as if animation studios don't dare color outside the lines anymore and stick to the formula for success given by the execs that are targeting the younger audience that doesn't realize there are options in art style.
The art style for Teen titans, Scooby Doo Mystery Inc, and Ben 10 omniverse was the best.
@@anhtunguyen781 I’ll check it out!
@@Thurmanism yes, thankyou
Hi_iam_fine_you
@@niiii4134 wdym
@@anhtunguyen781 Nothin he's name was how are you so...
Moral of the story: Executives don't understand customers very well.
Lol 😂
Put
"these" executives don't understand, and your comment is good 👍
Hey aren't you the guy that said moral of the story don't have kids cause if so you suck because I'm a kid
@@BigJohn0732 uh... no?
Look in a video call the ugly truth
I'm glad that Netflix is really using more anime artstyles than regular animation networks.
Anime art styles is the most generic looking thing imaginable
@@tracark2255 at least it doesn't look bad
@@tracark2255 haters gonna hate
@@tracark2255
so generic and imaginable is now bad?
So what if its generic? its repetitive? hey atleast it looks good
@@tracark2255 the shit looks clean tho at least
I will ALWAYS praise the World of Gumball for its art style because of how unique and wonderful it is. 2D art, 3D graphics and ever real-life shots went into this, but everything is really balanced and works as eye candy. Plot, humor and character development is on top too! Literally peak.
... And you know how Into the Spiderverse revolutionised big screen animation? I wish Gumball would cause the same effect on regular kids tv shows. But no. Everything goes in a direction of making animation too easy for bigger profit. I'm just becoming allergic to very round artstyle because its everywhere, and gives the same vibe as corporate art. It doesn't bring joy. Its not interesting to look at.
this also might be the reason why I love The amazing world of gumball ... yes the watersons and other characters are sort of simplified but if you look at the other characters in the show, all of them are so unique and has their own twist into them which made it entertaining and not boring since in each episode you're not stuck on one art style
yeah
I love that show for the fact that half the time the characters talking are in two different animation formats entirely. Heck one of the characters isn't even animated!
True. In fact, you could probably slap any character from any show in their original style and it would fit perfectly in the setting...
So many missed opportunities for crazy crossovers...
Gumball is homage to all the different animation styles throughout history..it's truly beautiful to see
I've never watched Owl House, but the color, shading, and attention to detail (things like hair in the wind) looks absolutely sick
sick in a good or bad sense?
@@zanir2387 good of course
I watch "The Owl House". So, I recommend it.
@@shesjustafriend2499 I don't doubt that. Hopefully I can check it out soon :)
@@HeyItsRed_ for me it’s just plain fun to watch. The plot is very interesting, there are even a few cliffhangers in the series so far. (Not gonna spoil anything but I definitely recommend)
There are also some moments like in this video where the animation is just amazingly fluid and just so well done. The perspectives are also great in these sequences too :)
Yeah, art style is one of the most important things about any animated show. Its what I was thought in art school, “make it your own, a silhouette can make or break your show. “
Please don't. But yeah I feel you cause Generator Rex was great
@@impactframes6514 don’t what?
In my opinion, and from my limited knowledge, I feel like there is a basic concept that Western animation needs to adapt from Eastern animation: Sakuga, and all the limited animation inbetween.
For anyone who doesn't know, in Anime, Sakuga means the sequences with particularly high quality of animation. They're animated on ones (meaning every single frame is a new drawing), show lots of detail and are generally just very beautiful and nice to look at. These are typically fight sequences or scenes with a big emotional impact, as well as anime openings. These are expensive, and animating entire episodes or series like this would not be doable for a lot of studios, so for less important or action loaded sequences, the animation is dialed back, details dropped, and individual frames shown for a long time with maybe some camera movement.
If you've ever watched an anime, it won't be hard for you to think of a dialogue scene where nothing except for the characters mouths is moving. For something like that, you have to draw a single frame, six or less different variations for the two mouths, and you have a 20-30 seconds sequence. Another common strategy for less important action or motion sequences are speed lines. A very obvious version of this that isn't as popular anymore is the speed line background, which has characters in front of a background that basically consists out of a mess of lines that underline their motion. You need two or three different frames for those lines to have a background for the entire sequence, and you can get away with fairly few character drawings by moving them across that background.
These are just specific examples. What's important here is the general concept: Change the detail and quality of the animation throughout the episode to have both high quality sequences and low cost. If your budget is tight, make the Sakuga sequences shorter, or allow the limited animation sequences to change to a more simplistic style sometimes (if done well, you can accentuate story beats this way without creating additional cost). Because the Sakuga sequences exist, it is easy to kind of "overlook" these lower quality sequences, as well as mentally fill in some of the details you saw elsewhere.
For some reason, executives in Western animation seem to believe that consistency in detail, animation frame rate and style is more important to their audiences than a great art style that fits the story and high quality (expensive) animation in the right places. Maybe this is because of tradition or risk avoidance, maybe it's because they think children are too stupid to understand that an inconsistently animated character still is the same character at all times.
What I do know is that thanks to its approach to animation, Anime can be produced at a relatively low budget and still include amazing sequences. The budget doesn't determine the art style or the quality itself, it basically just controls the amount of Sakuga.
one thing that's always thrown me off with newer cartoons like these is that they are so...smooth? I don't know how else to put it, but I don't like it. The older cartoons are more rough, I guess...which I find more pleasing to look at. That's obviously a personal preference, but yeah. It just feels like a computer did all the work and no love went into anything.
I agree. They look too clean to me, older stuff is more appealing because it has flaws which makes it more unique.
You're not wrong. Pixar for example kept the same animation style for toy story 3 as they had in toy story 1 so they don't change how ppl look at the animations and the whole movie in general
I suspect part of it is due to using a vector art style, which _by default_ yields smooth shapes and perfect contours. There's simply no texture to the linework....
THIS. Everything is too smooth and flat
Yea. Maybe cuz many of the old cartoons were drawn in hand/2d like Ed Edd n Eddy. Then there were a mix/blend in the late 00´s/start 10´s and now eveything in tv is so smooth.
The thing missing in modern animated art is the biggest part: the art.
Kids these day have been more interested in shows from different countries because it stands out more, like, it's not that heard to understand ✋😭
United States of America needs to redeem and redefine artery, we don't appreciate artist's as often as we should in the name of law.
I wouldn't mind practicing my art skills on achieving bodies, I'm only an abstract artist, I don't enjoy the idea of executives telling you something's too risky; it's best to take risks, as a risk I would draw a child character in the most beautiful way possible and study the human psychology afterwards as part of some scientific revolution; in other countries they're always ahead in that. I HATE utterly HATE how much they condescending towards children in cartoons and animations in general.
this reminds me of how when I was younger, it was always cartoons like winx club, gumball, and other foreign cartoons that stuck to me too.
@@Rileysays7 That's why I watch webtoons, French TV shows like Miraculous and anime. They all are more expressive than most US shows on TV.
I miss the 90s and early 2000s era. The variety of animation was so vast and unique. 1 show that stood out to me that is Courage the Cowardly Dog. The animation in that show was so mindblowing half of the time. They used 2D, 3D, pixel and even claymation to intensify the spooky atmosphere of the world.
yeah, thats why many kids got into an anime, Well also its because of trends and stuff too
I would love to see a video of yours specifically talking about so-called adult animation and its many, MANY problems. from being noticeably derivative in it's art style to the gross-out "comedy" meant to set it apart as something mature, getting your take on it would spark some neat conversation I think
Honestly I prefer the wider range of animation styles from early 2000's because they were wide enough of different without being so different that they couldn't do crossovers. The good thing was that they also made every character look interesting in some way.
I'll never be able to fun again indoors if all good shows don't end for real
Yeah
I used to just glance at a show and tell if I knew about it or not by the art style. Now I have to actually work to see if anything rings a bell.
and they did them anyway
Steven universe used to look like THAT?!? Holy lord, that looks so much better than what it looks like now.
yeah fr, it looks very aesthetically pleasing
*I really disliked that style as a kid so I can see why they changed it, though. Mostly the color palette
I wish they kept it like that even tho I don't watch Steven universe
Yeah
I'm afraid the same thing is going to happen to Hazbin Hotel now than it's bought by a tv-company. Honestly, the vividness and the character of the art style and the animation is so outstanding on the pilot episode, that I'm afraid the company will now kill any creativity and simply use it as a money making machine until nothing is left 😓
(also, I'm not an USA citizen so I'm afraid I won't even ever see any more episodes if they won't be published in the youtube 😭)
Gumball is great since while the main characters have that usual bean shaped simplified design, the rest of the world is dynamic as heck that even one family is literally peoples heads upside down on top of a green screen.
Aka like Mob Pycho 100, uses every medium it can shove in
For me, I really liked Ever After High's art style. Sure, it is by no means simple. But it gives that character's depth and the show's whole entire atmosphere. The character designs, the shows story, the vibrant colors, and the diversity. Everything looks in place and recognizable.
One problem I've had is that, growing up, the style of animation told you what kind of cartoon you were about to watch. The highly simplified cartoons were either for very young audiences or were comedy. A more detailed, serious style was for action cartoons. There was some overlap, but as a kid I liked action cartoons because they had plot and conflict. Some modern cartoons have the plot and conflict, but because they're so simple and cartoony-looking I can't view them that way. Even if they have a serious moment, the bean face is keeping me out of the moment, so I don't even look at a lot of these cartoons because I'm not interested in goofball comedy and I never have been.
What I want is animation that is *pretty.*
I mean, call me whatever you want, I like watching pretty shows. If a show has a wonderful story but hurts me to look at, I'm not gonna watch it. The visuals are half the experience. I want something impressive and beautiful to match the story, which is why I've been getting more into anime than Western animation
( despite my like anime) you are traitor and also adventure time, regular show and steven universe tho I do feel there's going to be another dark age of cartoon coming let us hope it doesn't come
@@changsiah2 literally have no idea what your talking about
@@szecr I was talking about Good cartoons of era like adventure time, regular show and steven universe
That's very true. This is the reason I havent watched and turned down watching shows that could have had amazing potential if it hadn't been for the same artstyle, the same story, the same characters/personalities, and the choppy or cheap animation. This makes the show and characters look lifeless and it just makes me go to sleep, when it should make me want to do the opposite.
@@bluenpurple2328 Good cartoons of era like adventure time, regular show and steven universe
My kid self: what are they missing?
Me in my 20s: a soul.
Accurate~
Also passion
@@crawlingboy True
So fuckin true
*George Lucas to see Mickey Mouse*
I don't know MUCH about this subject... But I really liked the art style of Rapunzel's Tangled Adventure. I thought it was like watching a painted fairytale illustration come to life and I don't know why but it reminds me of playing paperdolls. Maybe because of how seamless and flat everything looks, like characters were cut out of the page, colored in and shaded, then pasted into a backdrop instead of just drawing a picture and coloring inside the lines. And the color palette is so pretty and enchanting with lots of golds and pinks and purples and teals. Ithink it's like Carmen Sadiego which was also aesthetically pleasing. Here's hoping the way people loved the art style in Into The Spider-Verse makes more changes. I think the Simple Style is pretty dang ugly, personally.
There’s a reason anime is blowing up in the west. Better stories and amazing art
Easterner here
And if you want even crazier art, check out the mangas of some of these shows, JJK has one of the scratchiest mangas ive ever seen, Made In Abyess looks painted at times, Chainsaw Man is scribbles and it looks amazing, and late AOT is easily one of my favorite shonen manga styles
Berserk is considered beautiful, Claymore as well, and well.....pretty sure a Vagabond adaptation can only be made through a live action samurai movie since its so realistic
@@ratatouilledrinksclorax9897 yep the Mangas are downright masterpieces
Plus, many teens today can find anime for free. So more power to them.
Most anime suffers from sameness too. It’s just a different kind of sameness.
@@undercomposition the sameness is in respect to tropes not storyline and art. Also beautiful drawings you can watch over and over bc of the effort and detail.
Actually I feel like this is just a phase that the animation industry goes through sometimes. Even all the way back in the 1920s and early 30s the animation industry had a similar "art style problem" where every major studio had nearly the same art style. A main character who was an animal with a mostly black body, white rounded eyes, and a white muzzle, along with round bodies and, by the late 20s, rubberhose limbs. Felix and Krazy Kat started this trend, and in the 20s numerous characters followed, such as Julius, Oswald, Weakheart the Dog, Bimbo, Paul Terry's Henry Cat, Bosko, and Mickey Mouse himself. By the 40s and 50s, studios had developed distinct and individual styles. I feel like this is a repeat of what happened back then and that it's probably only temporary.
You're probably completely right. It's probably an ebb and flow as new generations are born and old generations of animators, ceos, etc pass.
I completely agree! The same thing happened in the 80s with all the early morning cartoons as well; they all ended up having a very similar art style for quite a long time.
Its a cycle. Studios keep on dumbing down animation, to cut costs, until its almost a stick figure. People will of course hate it. And then someone comes out with the brilliant idea of putting some *actual* *work* into the art, and it'll expose the rest of the industry for doing cheap and lazy art. So all the other studios try to copy the success, by doing quality animation, and the cycle starts again.
As a kid in the 70s I hated that late 50s-60s style like Mr Magoo and Deputy Dawg, all angles and stuff.
I mean, the 20-30s weren’t a phase, they were the beginning. They didn’t have televised series (or television, which all chalks up to accessibility). They were simplified because animation was MUCH harder- you had to sacrifice details in order to just move along.
These (contemporary) studios have made a name for themselves. And yet it feels like they’re un-developing in style.
I honestly think that divide is more from how long the animation had to be.
I’m not an expert on animation and I’m not trying to sound critical of this comment specifically. Just thought that there may be space for a loophole and went with it
I feel like ben ten's first artstyles worked best because of the whole gimmick of the show. You were seeing new creatures on a daily basis, lf course it would be the best idea to have an anatomically more detailed art style. Now it just feels like toned down versions and toys instead of real aliens.
exactly! if you dont have realistic proportions and anatomy, you cant see the abnormality of the proportions being completely different from normal. thats what makes them look like actual aliens.
The original series wanted to contrast between earth and alien, so realistic art style was used. Alien Force focused more on the fighting and action, so Justice League art style, slightly simpler and easier to animate, was used. Omniverse was very stylised because the focus was on travelling throughout a wonderous cosmos rather than fighting.
@@موسى_7 Omniverse has great fight scenes tho so why do u think the focus was not on fighting?
Vaugely unrelated but Rapunzel's Tangled Adventure is an amazing show, with a vastly different art style for modern kid's meadis and a great soundtrack with some broadway level songs by the end of the series in which I currently can't recommend because doing so would provide spoilers, watch it it's great and you can tell the crew put a lot of care love and effort into it, you'd not only be supporting an amazing show but also telling executives that they really don't have to play it safe to be successful in modern media
Like seriously, it's only three seasons and has flown _way_ under the radar for it's quality
I agree with u. I feel like Disney knows how to make eye candy
This is why I feel like artists like Vivziepop will start to excel in adult animation, as her art style is very eye-catching and it flows gorgeously like water. If I had to describe it, I say it looks like fire, and moves like water. I've followed her art since 2014. And I am so beyond proud that she is gaining so much popularity. I hope she is able to change the future of adult animation because I can't stand family guy and Simpson's clones.
Yes. Just yes
F*ckin YES
Remember her Die Young animation?
That was *chef kiss perfect
I believe in Vivziepop supremacy 🖐🏻
@@yourlocaldemon2195 raise your hand in salute
*Viv power*
This is why I'm showing my little siblings the older cartoon I grew up with. Kids today deserve good contents like the old days so I'm just going to let them watch my childhood shows instead. And surprisingly, they enjoyed them even more than the modern cartoons shown today.
There's just something care-free and funner with the old cartoons. Something that kids love and why they watch these shows to begin with. Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends, Ed Edd n Eddy, KND. These new copy-paste looking shows lack the fun the others had...
- The creatives behind these barely get a choice of what to do anymore, or are severely limited, thanks to _heavy_ corporate medeling. Execs have taken the artist from their easel and sat an accountant down, entrusting them to make just the right brush strokes to bring in the most cash.
-basically artists aren't the ones making it anymore, it's the accountants and businessmen at top.
- No risks, minimum effort/resources spent, maximum gain. The product? Who cares, whatever brings money by any means.
All this just sucks the soul out of what made cartoons fun. And that creative experienced people don't have a say on subjects of creativity anymore- even if they came up with it, like Ben 10 being turnt from anime to family guy against all creative nerves screaming.
There are new cartoons that give me some hope, like Gravity Falls and a couple of more adult ones.
@@swiftfox3461 Yeah but Gravity Falls had ended. My siblings enjoyed that show very much
@@everwildart3563 That's true. I will miss it, but I do think that it caused (or was caused by) an unblocking of the pipeline for richer shows. Before GF, most of the post-2007(ish) cartoons were shallow and not worth watching. GF was the first in a while to care about continuity, the lore, the writing, and the world building. Now more and more new shows are starting to care about these things, and I like it.
@@swiftfox3461 Yeah. Back around the 2005-7 era I decidedly moved on to anime because the new art style and their content felt way too dumbed down compared to the Hannah-Barbara material I was used to back in the 90s. Then our regional slots on CN were taken up by regional cartoons (Indian animation. I will vomit a wall of text if you get me started.) and I felt like hey, kids have better taste than this. They'll reject this crap for sure.
Looking back now, I kinda forgot how easy it is to get someone to like what is the only thing on offer.
Cartoons of the 90s and 2000s were very experimental in art style
Very true!
Brutal honesty here, I prefer the classic Invader Zim style, the Florpus style looks pretty basic.
it is utterly baffling how networks think that kids will like cute artstyles more than cool artstyles
There's something about hand drawn animation back in the day that puppet animation can't replicate.
And that's dedication.
True
I know
**Implies "puppet animation" isn't dedicated**
**Thunderbolt Fantasy has entered the chat**
-I'm kidding btw. I understand by "puppet animation" you meant 2D CG like stuff made with programs like Adobe Animate and Toon Boom.- X^D
Something I actually said to my mom recently was that I'd live to see Disney put out another 2d animated movie. Just to kinda see it again, y'know?
I love the 3d work Disney is doing, and as an artist I can appreciate all the hard work that goes into it, but my mother and I both agreed we'd love to see it again. Just a 2d animated movie with actual thought out into it- not a remake- just a nice story to enjoy
@@Z.A.N.E They tried that with *The Princess and the Frog-* they had already pretty much moved on to 3D by the point that one came out, and...
**Looks it up real quick**
*HOLY SHOOT,* that came out *over a decade ago?! o_0*
Most cartoons nowadays feels lifeless, and it feels dumb, there is no fluid movement, it's not as.. real to me (idk).
It feels more like they stand there and talk instead of exist ;-;
Shonen Jump is the WORST Company
@@jamesaaron8578 why are mentioning them ?
cartoons from the 1920s to the early 2010s are superior to the id!ot art style we have today
@@militarytankstudios9497 lol
@@jamesaaron8578 cry about it, its one of the BEST
The shows artstyle/visuals is almost as important as the story. Somehow these animation companies SOMEHOW doesnt understand that.
I mean visuals and story go hand and hand if the visuals arent good you dont see the impact of the moment
Somehow they get both of them wrong
True but some stories are just so good that it kinda goes unnoticed
They get another thing: if you give people something like the thing they loved, they give you their money. Easy money for big companies.
@@malbenita That's true
"I think the only time people really have value is when they act according to their own will"
- Shogo Makishima
Personal art styles will always triumph the safe and corporate feel.
Wait the ben reboot was supposed to be in an anime style ? ... now im even more sad Rip
omniverse got more anime style than this trash reboot
@@maymay5600 blame the cartoon Network staffs
Bro what the f- CN the 👉🚪
A hard(er) anime style to call back to some of the older versions would have been fantastic, and we know they have the money to do it
@@maymay5600 how?
It is worst than that. People who go into Art (even fanart), are encouraged to "go simple" and "do not overwork themselves". A Girl from my fandom association simply goes to EVERYBODY who likes to draw, and says: "Your art style is cool but too complicated, you should simplify it, to get more likes and to create more arts quicker". And if You struggle to get better at what you are drawing, and ask for criticism, or what you could do to be better. All you will get from her it will be something like "Why you bother with that, it is stressing you" or " Just draw simpler, why you bother yourselves with practicing, you waste your time."
She ALWAYS prises everything that was made with minimum effort, but if you actually tried to get better, she will discourage You.
And she is not the only one, she often posts links to videos and articles, pushing a similar approach.
And this mentality of being simplistic is killing art! It’s why you always see brand logos go for the piece of shit 2d uncultured ‘modern’ look.
I am incapable of making appealing simple designs, all of my characters have like 6 colors and don’t even get me started on the anatomy
Mental health > entertaining randos
this is bullshit. go on and do what you feel, is art fost god sake, it suposed to be the freedom itself. Do it as complicated as you feel, an a lots of peaple will really really apreciate that. I will for sure
As an artist... it's best to use both simple and complex drawings. They understand that in Japan. They save the highly detailed art for the highlights of their chapters and covers. But they also use very simple drawings for some other things. Knowing when to use what is what one needs to do.
This was a good video. My only complaint would be the use The Loud House footage seemingly as an example of modern cartoon art styles looking the same, because that show honestly has a really distinct look with its comic strip inspired aesthetic.
To be honest, I get that people may say "ouh, modern animation starts sharing more art style traits" but so did early Anime, so did different shows from the same creator/s. And personally, I don't see that much overlap. It's all more simplified but still comes with enough difference to make out which show it's from. Maybe it's in the way the character designs are represented, but I thinkn it really comes down to how the simpler design philosophies and art style traits are handled in each show and design!
I understand that. But it's the Morden day for both now. Anime has more art styles that differentiates because they have the money to do so. Cartoon studios have the money but choose not use it.
Carmen Sandiego’s art style is GORGEOUS and everyone here should watch it right now.
It is gorgeous, but I just couldn't get into the show itself, sadly.
I dislike it. I see that kind of art style in a lot of children's books...
I like all the fancy lights, the art style itself is great but the lights I just can’t get over
Original or reboot
@@sofanofafalafel2890 Reboot
I will still never forget that the creators of Johnny Test and the creators of Wakfu use the same animation software, but there’s clearly a difference that the French understand and put their all into with animation that American shows do not. And the French have got a HEFTY amount of great animation under their belt be it collabs, or straight up from them, from Wakfu, to Lolirock, Totally Spies, to Oban: Star Racers, to even how innovative Code Lyoko was. I hope some American animators learn from them. And that’s not to say I don’t like the simplified stylings. I get it. Cartoons aren’t meant for me anymore as an adult. But I guess I miss the diversity of art styles.
wait, Wakfu is made in Adobe Flash?
@@12DAMDO you bet your ass it was
The thing is it's not the creators who what show's to look like this it's studios who are forcing them to make it.
@@headphones_guy777 i gotta step up my game
@@12DAMDO RISE!
I watched the original ben 10 and the new art style looks like they took a regular ben 10 drawing and used the over simplified logo meme on them
Right now it's in the middle by the end it's just going to be the omnitrix symbol with a circle as a face
@@ilvanasgobero8096 legit
Ngl when I saw the transformations and the story and tbh the transformations actually looks painful but the story was good also the idea of Kevin being kinda a psycho and having Kevin stuck with every alien parts on his body plus he can use their powers but he maybe forgot about ghostfreak and grey matter brain plus making ghostfreak a villain seems right
@@Honestlynothingelse The story was as awful. Kevin being able to make the Omnitrix, the most powerful device with a bunch of pliers and screwdrivers was complete bs. Also Ben wins almost every fight with low budget animation and disappointing visuals. As a fan of the entire series the reboot imo was a joke like the teen titans reboot.
@@user-cv3dr4kt7j Grand pa Max is supposed to be a resourceful plumber but now he is just an old man.
Hilda, Kid Cosmic, and Kipo I would say are absolutely different in styles and animation. Netflix’s diversity nowadays is actually awesome. I hope Netflix continues the different styles
Agreed!
yeah they still bad tho. over simplfied with almost no detial just bleh.
@@charadreemurrtr7830 I just disagree with you on Hilda because that show is easy to watch
I loved what Craig and his team did in Kid Cosmic, in fact, all of Craig's shows looked distinct from each other. Don't know if he's the one responsible for the character design, but Powerpuff Girls, Foster's, Wander Over Yonder and Kid Cosmic are very different looking from each other
the problem is some of these shows are hand drawn, like kid cosmic (i think it is). some shows need simpler styles to do that, especially if there’s a lot of scenes with tons of characters or movement in them. that’s why anime is usually really choppy animation, since the characters are super detailed most of the time. i agree though that some shows should be more detailed especially if they use animation rigs, but hey, not my decision. thanks for your perspective on the matter though, i think it’s pretty valid :)