@@giodawg45 Appreciate the timely response and info brother, and yea then damn progressive overload sounds awesome, closest thing to kaioken in real life 💪
Personally I think it's important to note that he chooses to rest and sleep towards the end of his journey. It's that turtle school mentality that seems to help his growth.
Yup. It's the turtle school way. Goku knows it's important to also rest for a bit after everything. He even taught this to Gohan in the anime during the cell arc in the time chamber
yeah, i realized that the turtle school training is the perfect training method for saiyans, that last day allows goku to fully recover and let the zenkai do the thing, and with the resting he can be at 110% battle ready
Muscles grow by tearing and repairing. I would imagine if you did all that training then pop a senzu, you wouldn't get any gains since the senzu beans would just instantly heal you before your muscles had the time to properly gain mass. Thus resting the old school way.
First time I watched Dragonball Z, I was on my first deployment. Watching Goku do this stuff got me so hyped, I was doing 2 gym sessions a day. Goku is the goat.
I was in middle school when I watched it on Cartoon Network!! I’m 35 now so yea 😂 when I was In Afghanistan in 2011… I still watched anime!!! Helped me through for sure!!
That Namek training was the stuff of legends. I don't think even Toriyama even fully understood what he wrote The meaning behind it is: Either you just accept things how they are (like being weak, too weak to help others) Or you take the bull by the horn and change things.
I think it was the best training was saw in Z. The OG dragon ball had some good training as well which might be on par with this but nothing else in Z compares to it. I think this also set the precedent (for a while, until Gohan turned SSJ) that to achieve super saiyan you had to undergo intense gravity training. Vegeta underwent the same training before reaching super saiyan. Too bad that this kind of got cheesed by the zenkai boost, since it's kind a of a cheap way to power up. Though you can also take from this that Goku's near death experience during this training also gave him a zenkai boost on top of it. Goku did cheese his way with the zenkai boost when he got beat by Ginuy. He went from being on par with probably Freeza's first form to being on par with Freeza's final form just from that one zenkai boost while he was healing in that saiyan pod. Still, even then, it made you imagine and appreciate that the intense gravity training was probably what allowed Goku to even reach such levels.
I don't think people realize how hard you have to train to ALMOST DIE from it. Once onscreen from external factors, but others cause he was working himself almost to death. That's insane.
Agree, in real life that kind of training doesn't work, if you do it you only hurt yourself and have to spent time to recover where you can't train, it works with Goku because he is an alien with a power to get stronger after recovering.
@@Devil-ig7klno training like that is an athlete's worst nightmare....one injury is enough to clap their career into non existence. They train very safely with good recovery
however hard you train your brain always keeps some reserve energy(lik 30 or 40%) for life or death situations. I case you do want to train to complete exhaustion you do it in stages of 3 hours work with an hour or two of break....i volunteered for farm work and doing this i had 0 energy at the end of the day. It was hard for a week but then when i got used to it body fat simply melted away.
Goku had to rush and was extremely motivated after knowing Vegeta wasn't the peak. That short time he went up many times over being able to stomp the genyu force Meanwhile the cell arc training he has the time to help Gohan before his real training came in to truly master that power. I miss this Goku who had the perfect mix of joking around and serious nature knowing when was the time to be either
@@ivanbluecool bro use your brain, goku gave cell the senzu because he knew cell was an arrogant clown that would let gohan power up enough to rival him, if Goku didn't do that cell would kill everyone out of frustration and bordeom, the moment gokus brain turned off was everything after the namek saga when he ignored trunks and sparres gero, that's actually when everyone's brain turns off
@@IIIISai wow I've never seen a comment contradict itself with ease. Cell did that anyways so Goku was double stupid with cell getting a senzu bean. Also the one senzu bean they needed was given to cell. If things went the exact same way regardless you'd still be wrong as that senzu bean would have given Gohan back his full strength and cell would be clapped so fast Vegeta wouldn't need to help at the end giving Gohan the full win. Only made Gohan get a beating(his son btw I think the show implied that somewhere) and piccolo call him out for his sheer stupidity. Imagine not telling someone your plan and expecting them to follow along If watch the series again if I was you and leave you at that. I got no more to say to someone that can't even see the show and Goku's actions. You know if you got time I'm "just Saiyan"
@@ivanbluecool Alright look maybe I came off wrong when I said use your brain, so I'll ignore your comments and puns, but u seem to be the common majority that believe this propaganda that gokus an idiot in the cell saga, is it gokus fault that gohan was some soft pacifist in the cell arc, no, and while goku shoulda told gohan it made no difference gohan saw the situation but all he did was whine and try to talk to cell, what an idiot and out of character, Toriyamas writing for the cell arc was horrible, and no cell only blew up after gohan was winning, which proved my point that goku was smart to give the bean, even if goku gave gohan the bean it would make no difference, gohan was stubborn and cell didn't kill anyone important enough at that point to trigger ssj2 Gohan, so I dont know why you think some long response is supposed to persuade me, I said use your brain but not with bad intention, if u Actually think about the situation your opinion would change, cell was arrogant and bored, if everyone stayed weaker he would eventually kill them, Also I'll just ignore your comment on goku being the father and piccolo calling out goku, U give me the vibes u think piccolo is the better father as well, Every cell saga fanboy shares the same npc brain is crazy, Im not gonna rewatch a whole show for a scene I analyzed 100 times, either u can rewatch or reread or watch actual analysis videos on the scene, best wishes 👍
@@sirnarwhal9911 He's nit training for zenkai here, he's training his durability and his ability to "take a punch" if you will, like what we do in boxing. You gotta be able to take heavy hits
I'm actually ecstatic to see someone actually talk about these scenes so much because I really love how Z actually put focus on these, they are so great to see, it's a shame scenes like these are skipped over because they are great aspects of the Shonen genre of anime and it is also one of the reasons I LOVE Goku!
@@actrosa3732 DBS is absolute trash yeah, I wouldn't mind if the entirety of DBS was erased and remade better tbh lol Am not even biased because I saw DB, DBZ and DBS all from the beginning one after the other in a row, and DBZ is 100000000 times superior, it really is a shame.
@@alexzero3736 BNHA ain't turning anyone into a men... 19yr old me was inspired by Goku and I even thought of him in the middle of my boxing match and won via knockout in the next round.
I was in elementary school and he had me wishing I could increase gravity so I could train and dunk at as 4 foot whatever inch kid lol. Man, I was so motivated and practiced what I could as hard as I could. Goku was truly inspiring to kid me
When I was young I thought the benefits of his training was all from gravity training but as I got older I realized he was putting his body through near death experiences gaining multiple zenkai during his training hitting himself with kamehameha
Me too, I rewatched the namek saga and realized that it was not only due to gravity training only. As an adult you get a different perspective.Another thing i noticed as an adult was, how long it took the z fighters to be reunited again. Ie. Goku had not seen Tien shin han for over 6 years, becuase when Goku was resurrected in the Saiyan saga, Tien shina han was already dead, the same applies to Yamcha and Chaos. They all meet when goku returns from the Jada Planet and found all of them along with Trunks.
I love goku's namek training because of how he took advantage of the saiyan near death experience power boost really shows how smart goku is in terms of fighting😂
That part of the series is a true inspiration to me (as a musician, much different than a fighter) because Goku became his own teacher and pushed himself through 6 days of intense training and with that became a Super Saiyan for the first time, without even knowing it yet.
I'm sure the training had a massive impact on him achieving Super Saiyan, however Krillin's Death was the driving factor that pushed him over the edge and "activated" it finally. Think Naruto, and the awakening of the Mangekyo Sharingan, and how it is activated in Uchiha clan members due to witnessing an extremely emotionally distressing event. Very similar to SSJ being activated/achieved when you think about it. Except we know Uchiha can accomplish the mangekyo through intense feelings of love, not just hatred as originally thought. But it appears SSJ is unlocked solely through rage or a very real, necessary, need to do so. As in, certain battle scenarios and such. And we know this to be true as it's stated in DBZ actually. But that's just my personal specific take on the whole concept in general, not saying all I said was 100% accurate, just to be clear
Basically they’re enough to sustain a normal person for some obscene length of time (I think it was a week or month per bean). And the reason that Saiyans can just pop them constantly is a joke related to their huge appetites. The reason they’re so broken is because of a joke.
Goku's inspiration to working out and pushing yourself beyond your limit probably hits just hard as Arnold Schwarzenegger to the fitness community. When I was kid I used to be obsessed with working out, actually believing I could raise my "power level" lol
I like what you mentioned about moving his goalpost so massively that he was super motivated and ready to make massive improvements. He shows that again when he realizes he can move past SSJ, and he does that again when he learns about all the gods.
I think Raditz was a big motivator. I think Goku was frustrated with the fact that he could have been stronger and mopped the floor with Raditz if he kept getting stronger but slacked off when he became the strongest in the world.
Man! Great analysis. Protagonists are not like Goku anymore. The is 100% will, will to Fight, not even win. Since his training with Kame he was just this way. He loves to fight, in his childhood he was more headstrong. He grows up to be a young and good father. But is his training into Nameks way he becomes a real man. He changes and never get back to his old Goku childish, from this own he takes everything more seriously. When i was a child goku from Freeza Saga was the best thing ever on TV. Thanks for the Nostalgia!
Goku also gave that glare to Taopaipai, Tenshinhan, Tambourine and Piccolo... on at least three occasions. Sobered up and shot that calm, smoldering glare. Smirks when he's having fun. Has no problem being slack jawed or screaming in rage when flustered, but when he gives the silent glare you know you're in for pain.
This, I have seen so many shows but why is it that I remember this the most. The training was so insane and it felt like he was training forever when I watched the show on TV and I couldnt wait to see what he could do when he reaches Namek. Great video.
This video amused me so much man. Listening to a story I consumed through a 4:3 CRT screen on broadcast television as a child being retold with “this man” and “built different” combined with the rapid fire subtitles for maximum attention span destruction had me rolling. I’m glad gen Z is enjoying Dragonball tho. If you ever get around to watching Yu Yu Hakusho, make one of these for Yusuke. Lol
That little scene when he throws the rock then catches it opposite his initial position, is one of my favorite dbz scenes. I would love to be that fast
I prefer my main charaters to use unconventional but 90% legitimate tactics, they get 10% wiggle room for bullshiting their way past something. Goku might not fit that normally nowadays, but in namek that was his entire thing, he abused easily observable facts and pulled techniques out his ass to survive, so namek saga goku is honestly my favorite version of the character. He wasn't wise enough to fully embrace being a mentor, but he was crafty enough to pull tricks like that water scene out of basic facts and thinking on the fly.
The whole training sequence for namek feels so cathartic. It's just goku travelling through the vastness of space to an unknown destination. All he does is training... training... training. There is nothing else in his mind than to get stronger. No other diversions, weeknesses, stress. His mind as clear as crystal which helps him to train even harder not caring about what ifs and insecurities. The fact that there is someone stronger than Vegeta out there inspires him to train even harder. No wonder he is the main character whom you can root for.
You have a new subscriber bro. I'm the dragonball guru out of my friends. And you definitely noticed to same thing about goku that made me respect him so much as a kid. No matter the mountain ahead. Preparation will see you rise to that occasion. Thanks man
I personally think all that training he did in that short time was likely why he got the heart virus to begin with. From his training with King Kai up till returning to Earth after Mecha Frieza is killed was only a couple of weeks time and the dude would not stop training and pushing his body. He trained intensely with King Kai, he trained intensely right after leaving the Hospital from his fight with Vegeta on his way to Namek, he trained intensively on his back to Earth with his new SSJ form. All of that training, on top of nonstop fighting since getting wished back. Eventually that amount of training would've deteriorated his body in his some way and I think that's where the Heart Virus originates. If I'm right, the Heart Virus is a really good plot point that reminds us these guys aren't too far from humans with our own physical limits. This is something Z does better than Super, where Saiyans can apparently train themselves into Divinity and whatnot. I liked it better when the gap between Saiyan and Human was more realistic.
Its been longer Betweeen the saiyan saga and him getting to the space ship there was a month in betweeen not long but was a month The mecha Freezer fight happened nearly 2 years after namek tho But yeah pretty sure this 6 days torture and pushing kaioken to levels his body was nowhere near able to take like x4 or x20 on namek alongside all his brushes with death deteriorared his body On yadrat he kinda chilled tho since as we saw from super its more mental training than phisical to learn spirit control aka the basics of instant transmission Also kinda explains why cell saga goku rathered chill for 9 days than torture himself further
It wasn’t limited to just Goku tho. Trunks said in the future they have a cure for the heart virus, meaning that enough people in the world contracted it that warranted scientists researching a cure for it There’s a lot of theories that he contracted the virus on Yardrat or whatever, but it was just a virus that originated on Earth and spread around-Goku being one the unlucky people that contracted it
If I had something that could heal me from near death while also powering me up from said near death experience due to the nature of my genes, I’d be a super saiyan too
i mean humans do have that....but it just takes time...if you consistently sleep for 8 or 9 hours everyday you'll feel your body healing....look at any farm hand. They have an 8 or 9 hours on an average to do hard manual labor and a good sleep schedule. That long hours of work will take you to the brink of exhaustion.....that's pretty much how our ancestor's lives were. If we on the other hand spend the entire days sleeping no wonder we get so many diseases.
this is what I miss in dragon so damn much and before ya say there's moments like those in super, No. These moments back in the day was the very definition of the grind, pushing themselves over, over, and over again. Their mind, body and goddamn soul was pushed to exhaustion, super don't do that. Old dragon will always be superior, it's what got half the men that watch it working out cause in the end the grind don't ever stop no matter the age, you keep it going.
Even his initial journey across the snake Bridge (don't remember the actual name by heart, snake road? Idk haha) was such an awesome handful of episodes. Especially the tension felt when he falls off the truck and down into "hell" where he apparently cannot escape from, no matter what. Still love that part of DBZ.
“Before ya say there’s moments like this in super, no.” I’m here to tell you: yes. There are. Just watch Resurrection F (the series, not the movie) and you’ll se Vegeta and Goku struggling training with Whis to attain Super Saiyan Blue, not only that, but it was thanks to that training that Goku managed to unconsciously achieve Ultra Instinct Omen, which he only started mastering in the Moro arc. You think he just got that out of nowhere? No, he had to grind for that UI in that arc.
@@L1z43vr Dragon Ball super barely had any training montages and no of them were on the level of old dragon ball and DBS training is all about transformations while dragon ball z was about everything, martial arts, harsh training, mental training fighting themselves time and time again, etc. Dragon Ball super training will never match old g, it's a fact. But in the end you have your opinion and I have mind.
A lot of people say frieza saga was best and this is part of the reason why it was all being hyped up and it paid off. It took a while to get there, but it is what made you excited for a new episode.
This was such a sick breakdown man. Loved every second of it. Top notch commentary 💯 7:50 that shot is so badass 💪🔥🔥🔥🔥 Really enjoyed this as a life long DBZ fan 👏👏
I love that all your breakdowns are from a fighters perspective. Its fantastic and can't wait to see what other fights and trainings you get into whatever the anime. Honestly NEED your Majin Vegeta vs Goku breakdown though!
Great Job on commenting, and Editing. First time watching your videos, had to subscribe. Keep it up, I’m sure you will keep climbing to the top. Loved the Picolo ha,ha,ha part.
I love your channel videos where you analyze the DBZ training bro. And what made me subscribe is the fact you insert Bible verses in your videos. Keep it up and God Bless!
he made use of his saiyan biology, the zenki boost to keep damaging himself, then healing himself so his powerlevel increases greatly, and repeat that process
Dope ass video. I really enjoyed it from start to finish. & the Bible quote at the end took it to the next lvl for me. Liked, commented, & subscribed. Keep up the good work, brother. I'm looking forward seeing more.
This scene is why I started working out at 12 years old. This helped mold who I am as a person. Goku has heroic Qualities, there are worse characters to look up to.
Man wasn't just training. He kept getting that zenkai boost from torturing himself and instantly recovering with a bean. Pushing his body to a ridiculous limit.
I really liked the scripture message at the end! Indeed I was blessed to have motivational characters like Goku, well mainly Goku, while watching Toonami on Cartoon Network during 8th grade as a chubby (or husky as I was called when trying on suits back then) struggling kid. Funny enough, when ending 8th grade in my private school (that was overall difficult to deal with too at that point) another overweight (if not a little more) 8th grader jokingly called me "breast cancer boy." I shrugged it off angrily and going into the following summer vacation I was heavily invested in DBZ and other Shonen-type Anime's on Cartoon network (Yu-Yu Hakusho, Tenchi Muyo(S [there were three]) , Outlaw star, Cowboy bebop, etc...) and along with my step father's Total Gym, Dance Dance Revolution, and running on a treadmill whilst playing Sonic Adventure 1 & 2, by the time I entered the 9th grade 3 months later I was lean and hella mean (only in appearance, I hear im a very likeable guy by everyone I encounter, LOL) . School seemed to be easier with the added level of focus and confidence through the Goku styled training. Also, everyone that knew me from the 8th grade successively going into the 9th were Soooo shocked at my Super Saiyan-like transformation, myself included! Fun Fact: Nowadays I still train with a 5 lb wrap-band weight on my arms and ankles, just for the effect of looking and being like Goku and Piccolo when they would throw their weighted gear off. Also, it was a happy coincidence that my high school back then had a mandatory TaeKwonDo gym class for the 9th and 10th grade boys. My previous leg training unfortunately made me soo strong to the point of fracturing my Dojang sparing partner's (John S. was his name) shin, even through thick padding, when he defended my low sweep trip attack. That was at least 22 years ago, and I still maintain my stance of reserved defensiveness to protecting others while not falling into violent aggressiveness along with continual training! Still trying to get good with that One Punch Man training these days! Did I mention I loved the hell outta Shenmue on Dreamcast back then too!
The Saiyan Zenkai boost was always hindered by weak healing. - It would normally take months of recovery from an almost death scenario. And if the Saiyan body is permanently damaged such as losing a limb then it's game over. - Frieza's medical machines was a vast improvement in healing but it still had it's fair limits since it could not regrow biomass. - Senzu beans however are just insane. They heal you in an instant, even broken body parts that is impossible to heal. The only downside is that Korin is the only one able to make them and is still considered very difficult.
Yu Yu Hakusho is one of my favorite anime. Yusuke is a beast, but to be fair… by definition he is quite literally a “skinny teenager.” He makes up for it with how much of a dawg he is though 💪🏻
@@SensibleSaiyan Not too mention he might as well have a Bruce Lee body type. He looks skinny but when his shirt is off. The dude is literally built for close range combat.
9:00 you cant put a number on zenkai boosts 😅 think about it. Gohan was at the level of saiyan saga vegeta against Recoome then got a zenkai that put him on par with Frieza. Then another zenkai that made him able to contend (briefly) with 3rd form. Heck, Vegeta was at the level of 1st form Frieza then was stronger than form 3. Goku went from 180k to millions after Ginyu. In conclusion, the boost from zenkai is whatever Toriyama wants it to be and it's inconsistent
I totally agree with you about the zenkai boosts. The number I put on it is pure speculation. But I think it might be pretty accurate, since Goku struggled hard with 20x gravity at the start of his training. So it was for sure one of those more reasonable boosts
I miss the times when actually training and getting creative with training really makes the difference. Now in the mew series they train as if it is nothing
Goku taught us progressive overload 💪🏽
what does Progressive overload mean
@@IIIISai a strength training method where one gradually increases the intensity or difficulty of workouts.
@@giodawg45 Appreciate the timely response and info brother, and yea then damn progressive overload sounds awesome, closest thing to kaioken in real life 💪
@@IIIISai this is so fucking wholesome bro
@@sametsahin6863 Ahaha, glad u find the convo wholesome 🤙💛, I either click with comments or I'm at a war
Personally I think it's important to note that he chooses to rest and sleep towards the end of his journey. It's that turtle school mentality that seems to help his growth.
Yup. It's the turtle school way. Goku knows it's important to also rest for a bit after everything.
He even taught this to Gohan in the anime during the cell arc in the time chamber
Move well, study well, play well, eat well, rest well
yeah, i realized that the turtle school training is the perfect training method for saiyans, that last day allows goku to fully recover and let the zenkai do the thing, and with the resting he can be at 110% battle ready
That's how muscle growth works. So..
Muscles grow by tearing and repairing. I would imagine if you did all that training then pop a senzu, you wouldn't get any gains since the senzu beans would just instantly heal you before your muscles had the time to properly gain mass.
Thus resting the old school way.
The amount of Zenkai boosts he gets on the way to Namek is unreal.
Zenkai can't be self inflicted
@@Marika_ERThink Toriyama thought about that at that time
The one he got from the healing chamber was unreal
@@Marika_ER I would argue that his limits pushing back is what is almost killing him, not himself directly
@@Marika_ERbeing crushed by gravity isn't self inflicted it's quite natural outside damage.
This man Goku got me into the gym, no lie
same here
Ngl it was Turles that made me go to the gym
Same here I decided to rewatch dbz in 2021 been going ever since
Me too even though he's a cartoon creator he was my inspiration next to Bruce Lee
It got me in the gym as a child but later on as an adult when I discovered my human limits it was depressing.
First time I watched Dragonball Z, I was on my first deployment. Watching Goku do this stuff got me so hyped, I was doing 2 gym sessions a day. Goku is the goat.
@@Puro-znfe3 had to start somewhere 👍
@@Puro-znfe3 Nice, How old are you now and how many push ups can you do? 😁👀
I was in middle school when I watched it on Cartoon Network!! I’m 35 now so yea 😂 when I was In Afghanistan in 2011… I still watched anime!!! Helped me through for sure!!
@@Karruxo9lol whats your power level
That Namek training was the stuff of legends. I don't think even Toriyama even fully understood what he wrote
The meaning behind it is: Either you just accept things how they are (like being weak, too weak to help others)
Or you take the bull by the horn and change things.
😭🤣
That's a lofty mindset, too bad this is the real world.
!!!!!
@@MezzoForte4 it still applies for those who it’s meant for.
I think it was the best training was saw in Z. The OG dragon ball had some good training as well which might be on par with this but nothing else in Z compares to it. I think this also set the precedent (for a while, until Gohan turned SSJ) that to achieve super saiyan you had to undergo intense gravity training. Vegeta underwent the same training before reaching super saiyan. Too bad that this kind of got cheesed by the zenkai boost, since it's kind a of a cheap way to power up. Though you can also take from this that Goku's near death experience during this training also gave him a zenkai boost on top of it. Goku did cheese his way with the zenkai boost when he got beat by Ginuy. He went from being on par with probably Freeza's first form to being on par with Freeza's final form just from that one zenkai boost while he was healing in that saiyan pod. Still, even then, it made you imagine and appreciate that the intense gravity training was probably what allowed Goku to even reach such levels.
I don't think people realize how hard you have to train to ALMOST DIE from it. Once onscreen from external factors, but others cause he was working himself almost to death. That's insane.
Agree, in real life that kind of training doesn't work, if you do it you only hurt yourself and have to spent time to recover where you can't train, it works with Goku because he is an alien with a power to get stronger after recovering.
As well as magical beans which fully heal you
@@Hektolsathletes does that but not like Goku.....
@@Devil-ig7klno training like that is an athlete's worst nightmare....one injury is enough to clap their career into non existence. They train very safely with good recovery
however hard you train your brain always keeps some reserve energy(lik 30 or 40%) for life or death situations.
I case you do want to train to complete exhaustion you do it in stages of 3 hours work with an hour or two of break....i volunteered for farm work and doing this i had 0 energy at the end of the day. It was hard for a week but then when i got used to it body fat simply melted away.
Goku had to rush and was extremely motivated after knowing Vegeta wasn't the peak. That short time he went up many times over being able to stomp the genyu force
Meanwhile the cell arc training he has the time to help Gohan before his real training came in to truly master that power.
I miss this Goku who had the perfect mix of joking around and serious nature knowing when was the time to be either
Me too. He really did have the perfect blend of seriousness and goofiness in Z
@@SensibleSaiyan before the senzu bean. That's when his entire brain fell off. Before that he was on point from the raditz fight to the cell fight
@@ivanbluecool bro use your brain, goku gave cell the senzu because he knew cell was an arrogant clown that would let gohan power up enough to rival him, if Goku didn't do that cell would kill everyone out of frustration and bordeom, the moment gokus brain turned off was everything after the namek saga when he ignored trunks and sparres gero, that's actually when everyone's brain turns off
@@IIIISai wow I've never seen a comment contradict itself with ease. Cell did that anyways so Goku was double stupid with cell getting a senzu bean. Also the one senzu bean they needed was given to cell. If things went the exact same way regardless you'd still be wrong as that senzu bean would have given Gohan back his full strength and cell would be clapped so fast Vegeta wouldn't need to help at the end giving Gohan the full win.
Only made Gohan get a beating(his son btw I think the show implied that somewhere) and piccolo call him out for his sheer stupidity. Imagine not telling someone your plan and expecting them to follow along
If watch the series again if I was you and leave you at that. I got no more to say to someone that can't even see the show and Goku's actions. You know if you got time I'm "just Saiyan"
@@ivanbluecool Alright look maybe I came off wrong when I said use your brain, so I'll ignore your comments and puns, but u seem to be the common majority that believe this propaganda that gokus an idiot in the cell saga, is it gokus fault that gohan was some soft pacifist in the cell arc, no, and while goku shoulda told gohan it made no difference gohan saw the situation but all he did was whine and try to talk to cell, what an idiot and out of character, Toriyamas writing for the cell arc was horrible, and no cell only blew up after gohan was winning, which proved my point that goku was smart to give the bean, even if goku gave gohan the bean it would make no difference, gohan was stubborn and cell didn't kill anyone important enough at that point to trigger ssj2 Gohan, so I dont know why you think some long response is supposed to persuade me, I said use your brain but not with bad intention, if u Actually think about the situation your opinion would change, cell was arrogant and bored, if everyone stayed weaker he would eventually kill them, Also I'll just ignore your comment on goku being the father and piccolo calling out goku, U give me the vibes u think piccolo is the better father as well, Every cell saga fanboy shares the same npc brain is crazy, Im not gonna rewatch a whole show for a scene I analyzed 100 times, either u can rewatch or reread or watch actual analysis videos on the scene, best wishes 👍
Goku hitting himself with a Kamehameha during this stint was CRAZY😂. Dude will really do anything for the gainz💪
Vegeta claimed self inflicted pain don't add to the Z boost. So although he's not getting any, he's still dedicated.
@@sirnarwhal9911 I'm pretty sure that's from physical punches and kicks, a Kamehameha wave wouldn't count.
@@sirnarwhal9911 He's nit training for zenkai here, he's training his durability and his ability to "take a punch" if you will, like what we do in boxing. You gotta be able to take heavy hits
he's the real mvp for doing all that training without music
muffin button
LMFAOO
I'm actually ecstatic to see someone actually talk about these scenes so much because I really love how Z actually put focus on these, they are so great to see, it's a shame scenes like these are skipped over because they are great aspects of the Shonen genre of anime and it is also one of the reasons I LOVE Goku!
I’m glad you liked the video
I agreed all through Z Goku and the others had to earn their powers with effort and sweat, it's one of the reasons I love DBZ
yeah dbs just speeds thru everything just to show us the new transformations
Whoever skips these scenes is an absolute dumbass
@@actrosa3732 DBS is absolute trash yeah, I wouldn't mind if the entirety of DBS was erased and remade better tbh lol
Am not even biased because I saw DB, DBZ and DBS all from the beginning one after the other in a row, and DBZ is 100000000 times superior, it really is a shame.
DBZ was that show aimed at boys, but made them men.
A certified classic, you don't get shows like this anymore.
MHA would argue that
@@alexzero3736LMAO NOPE
@@alexzero3736turns them into boys again with all that hero bullshit 😂😂😂😂😂
@@alexzero3736 BNHA ain't turning anyone into a men... 19yr old me was inspired by Goku and I even thought of him in the middle of my boxing match and won via knockout in the next round.
@@alexzero3736I think MHA is more a anime for mental inspiration
bro realized almost dying boosted his power and rolled with it as hard as he could lol
Goku and Vegeta were zenkai spammers in the Namek saga for sure
I was in elementary school and he had me wishing I could increase gravity so I could train and dunk at as 4 foot whatever inch kid lol. Man, I was so motivated and practiced what I could as hard as I could. Goku was truly inspiring to kid me
Train using weight like a weighted backpack
When I was young I thought the benefits of his training was all from gravity training but as I got older I realized he was putting his body through near death experiences gaining multiple zenkai during his training hitting himself with kamehameha
Me too, I rewatched the namek saga and realized that it was not only due to gravity training only. As an adult you get a different perspective.Another thing i noticed as an adult was, how long it took the z fighters to be reunited again. Ie. Goku had not seen Tien shin han for over 6 years, becuase when Goku was resurrected in the Saiyan saga, Tien shina han was already dead, the same applies to Yamcha and Chaos. They all meet when goku returns from the Jada Planet and found all of them along with Trunks.
This is one of the few training moments from the series that's rarely talked about, so this video is much appreciated.
I wish shows nowadays do stuff like this. It was always so fun to see characters like Goku training for battle
Im more impressed that the ship was able to handle all that abuse goku gave it
I always thought that too. One mistake and Goku is floating in space
Junk. Yard. Dawg.
@@SensibleSaiyan Just Speaks to the genius of the Bulma bloodline
I love goku's namek training because of how he took advantage of the saiyan near death experience power boost really shows how smart goku is in terms of fighting😂
he didn't know the z-boost was a thing. he just thought he was making effort.
I'm hitting the gym in 30 minutes and this video gave me THE PUMP
Put that work in
That part of the series is a true inspiration to me (as a musician, much different than a fighter) because Goku became his own teacher and pushed himself through 6 days of intense training and with that became a Super Saiyan for the first time, without even knowing it yet.
I'm sure the training had a massive impact on him achieving Super Saiyan, however Krillin's Death was the driving factor that pushed him over the edge and "activated" it finally.
Think Naruto, and the awakening of the Mangekyo Sharingan, and how it is activated in Uchiha clan members due to witnessing an extremely emotionally distressing event. Very similar to SSJ being activated/achieved when you think about it. Except we know Uchiha can accomplish the mangekyo through intense feelings of love, not just hatred as originally thought. But it appears SSJ is unlocked solely through rage or a very real, necessary, need to do so. As in, certain battle scenarios and such. And we know this to be true as it's stated in DBZ actually. But that's just my personal specific take on the whole concept in general, not saying all I said was 100% accurate, just to be clear
Those senzu beans gotta have some kinda side effect Korin’s not telling us about. They’re too good to be true 😂
They take a long time to grow
They make a grown man lactate if he takes too many beans
(TFS joke, Cell Saga)
Room of Spirit and Time is probably where the beans grow
Basically they’re enough to sustain a normal person for some obscene length of time (I think it was a week or month per bean). And the reason that Saiyans can just pop them constantly is a joke related to their huge appetites. The reason they’re so broken is because of a joke.
maybe the heart virus lol
@@sphericalcow6014I was thinking the same thing
Goku's inspiration to working out and pushing yourself beyond your limit probably hits just hard as Arnold Schwarzenegger to the fitness community. When I was kid I used to be obsessed with working out, actually believing I could raise my "power level" lol
I like what you mentioned about moving his goalpost so massively that he was super motivated and ready to make massive improvements. He shows that again when he realizes he can move past SSJ, and he does that again when he learns about all the gods.
I think Raditz was a big motivator. I think Goku was frustrated with the fact that he could have been stronger and mopped the floor with Raditz if he kept getting stronger but slacked off when he became the strongest in the world.
Man! Great analysis. Protagonists are not like Goku anymore. The is 100% will, will to Fight, not even win. Since his training with Kame he was just this way. He loves to fight, in his childhood he was more headstrong. He grows up to be a young and good father. But is his training into Nameks way he becomes a real man. He changes and never get back to his old Goku childish, from this own he takes everything more seriously. When i was a child goku from Freeza Saga was the best thing ever on TV. Thanks for the Nostalgia!
Goku also gave that glare to Taopaipai, Tenshinhan, Tambourine and Piccolo... on at least three occasions. Sobered up and shot that calm, smoldering glare.
Smirks when he's having fun. Has no problem being slack jawed or screaming in rage when flustered, but when he gives the silent glare you know you're in for pain.
This video was so fire ah haha ha
Naw fr. I’ve watched this multiple times. Your analysis is spot on.
Lmmao the part with picco laughing is what got my subscription
This, I have seen so many shows but why is it that I remember this the most. The training was so insane and it felt like he was training forever when I watched the show on TV and I couldnt wait to see what he could do when he reaches Namek. Great video.
This video amused me so much man. Listening to a story I consumed through a 4:3 CRT screen on broadcast television as a child being retold with “this man” and “built different” combined with the rapid fire subtitles for maximum attention span destruction had me rolling. I’m glad gen Z is enjoying Dragonball tho. If you ever get around to watching Yu Yu Hakusho, make one of these for Yusuke. Lol
Glad you liked it! I’m a big fan of YYH and I was planning on making videos on it too
@@SensibleSaiyan Hell yeah! To borrow you’re vernacular, Yusuke is HIM! Even though he’s a skinny armed teenager. Haha
That little scene when he throws the rock then catches it opposite his initial position, is one of my favorite dbz scenes. I would love to be that fast
Great video, the commentary in the video was hilarious, the “ah ha ha” piccolo moment had me in tears 😂
Thanks bro, I appreciate it
Don't forget the Muffin Button
Muffin button
Must've been protein muffins cuz damn
Back when the writing and animation in the DB franchise was TOP TIER 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 PURE GOAT 💯
I prefer my main charaters to use unconventional but 90% legitimate tactics, they get 10% wiggle room for bullshiting their way past something. Goku might not fit that normally nowadays, but in namek that was his entire thing, he abused easily observable facts and pulled techniques out his ass to survive, so namek saga goku is honestly my favorite version of the character. He wasn't wise enough to fully embrace being a mentor, but he was crafty enough to pull tricks like that water scene out of basic facts and thinking on the fly.
The whole training sequence for namek feels so cathartic. It's just goku travelling through the vastness of space to an unknown destination. All he does is training... training... training. There is nothing else in his mind than to get stronger. No other diversions, weeknesses, stress. His mind as clear as crystal which helps him to train even harder not caring about what ifs and insecurities. The fact that there is someone stronger than Vegeta out there inspires him to train even harder. No wonder he is the main character whom you can root for.
Mad video dude, cool to see new types of DBZ content coming out talking about the series itself and not hypothetical stuff
Thanks man!
My favorite feeling in the world is after the gym where you feel so tired and sore you just want to eat, sleep and do it again. All thanks to Goku
a true master of calisthenics
You know you are serious when you stop showering like Goku
You have a new subscriber bro. I'm the dragonball guru out of my friends. And you definitely noticed to same thing about goku that made me respect him so much as a kid. No matter the mountain ahead. Preparation will see you rise to that occasion. Thanks man
I personally think all that training he did in that short time was likely why he got the heart virus to begin with. From his training with King Kai up till returning to Earth after Mecha Frieza is killed was only a couple of weeks time and the dude would not stop training and pushing his body. He trained intensely with King Kai, he trained intensely right after leaving the Hospital from his fight with Vegeta on his way to Namek, he trained intensively on his back to Earth with his new SSJ form. All of that training, on top of nonstop fighting since getting wished back. Eventually that amount of training would've deteriorated his body in his some way and I think that's where the Heart Virus originates.
If I'm right, the Heart Virus is a really good plot point that reminds us these guys aren't too far from humans with our own physical limits. This is something Z does better than Super, where Saiyans can apparently train themselves into Divinity and whatnot. I liked it better when the gap between Saiyan and Human was more realistic.
Really good point about the comparison between Z and Super
Its been longer
Betweeen the saiyan saga and him getting to the space ship there was a month in betweeen not long but was a month
The mecha Freezer fight happened nearly 2 years after namek tho
But yeah pretty sure this 6 days torture and pushing kaioken to levels his body was nowhere near able to take like x4 or x20 on namek alongside all his brushes with death deteriorared his body
On yadrat he kinda chilled tho since as we saw from super its more mental training than phisical to learn spirit control aka the basics of instant transmission
Also kinda explains why cell saga goku rathered chill for 9 days than torture himself further
It wasn’t limited to just Goku tho. Trunks said in the future they have a cure for the heart virus, meaning that enough people in the world contracted it that warranted scientists researching a cure for it
There’s a lot of theories that he contracted the virus on Yardrat or whatever, but it was just a virus that originated on Earth and spread around-Goku being one the unlucky people that contracted it
It was Frieza blood who carried it.
That’s not how viruses work
If I had something that could heal me from near death while also powering me up from said near death experience due to the nature of my genes, I’d be a super saiyan too
i mean humans do have that....but it just takes time...if you consistently sleep for 8 or 9 hours everyday you'll feel your body healing....look at any farm hand. They have an 8 or 9 hours on an average to do hard manual labor and a good sleep schedule. That long hours of work will take you to the brink of exhaustion.....that's pretty much how our ancestor's lives were. If we on the other hand spend the entire days sleeping no wonder we get so many diseases.
this is what I miss in dragon so damn much and before ya say there's moments like those in super, No. These moments back in the day was the very definition of the grind, pushing themselves over, over, and over again. Their mind, body and goddamn soul was pushed to exhaustion, super don't do that. Old dragon will always be superior, it's what got half the men that watch it working out cause in the end the grind don't ever stop no matter the age, you keep it going.
Even his initial journey across the snake Bridge (don't remember the actual name by heart, snake road? Idk haha) was such an awesome handful of episodes. Especially the tension felt when he falls off the truck and down into "hell" where he apparently cannot escape from, no matter what. Still love that part of DBZ.
“Before ya say there’s moments like this in super, no.”
I’m here to tell you: yes. There are. Just watch Resurrection F (the series, not the movie) and you’ll se Vegeta and Goku struggling training with Whis to attain Super Saiyan Blue, not only that, but it was thanks to that training that Goku managed to unconsciously achieve Ultra Instinct Omen, which he only started mastering in the Moro arc. You think he just got that out of nowhere? No, he had to grind for that UI in that arc.
@@L1z43vr Dragon Ball super barely had any training montages and no of them were on the level of old dragon ball and DBS training is all about transformations while dragon ball z was about everything, martial arts, harsh training, mental training fighting themselves time and time again, etc. Dragon Ball super training will never match old g, it's a fact. But in the end you have your opinion and I have mind.
facts
4:08 That laugh. I'm dying here 😂
Great video!! Never saw Goku's training like this before 😅
Plus I LOVED the fact that you tied it with scripture at the end
The " Ah Ha ha ha " bit kills me everytime 🤣🤣🤣🤣
This part of DBZ made me a fan for life. This show is all about surpassing your perceived ceiling.
THIS VIDEO GOT ME FUCKING AMPED TO THE MAX 😤😤😤
A lot of people say frieza saga was best and this is part of the reason why it was all being hyped up and it paid off. It took a while to get there, but it is what made you excited for a new episode.
This was such a sick breakdown man. Loved every second of it. Top notch commentary 💯 7:50 that shot is so badass 💪🔥🔥🔥🔥 Really enjoyed this as a life long DBZ fan 👏👏
That was the training that give super sayan to Goku. Undoubtedly. One the greatest upgrades of him.
thanks for making these vids! it just gave me the motivation to dig out my old dvd's to rewatch 💪ready to grind
Beautiful video man, congrats! So inspiring. Back to my calisthenics right F now.
💪🏻
I love that all your breakdowns are from a fighters perspective. Its fantastic and can't wait to see what other fights and trainings you get into whatever the anime. Honestly NEED your Majin Vegeta vs Goku breakdown though!
Don’t worry I’ll definitely cover that one eventually
I dont know why but when you said gokus hyped to hear from his boys it made me smile.
Yes!!! More training analysis! This is what made Dragonball Z great 🔥
Bro why did I just discover your content this is legit amazing
Great Job on commenting, and Editing. First time watching your videos, had to subscribe. Keep it up, I’m sure you will keep climbing to the top. Loved the Picolo ha,ha,ha part.
3:56 Goku : And I took that personally.
Every time he upped the gravity I cheered!
facts bro 💯🤟🤟
Your videos are lit bro I love this! 😂😂😂 piccolo ah ha ha 😭😭
I appreciate it man 😎
the undertake bell with the Super Saiyan Goku bit got me laughing a good while. so simple but sometime simple jokes are the most effective.
2:30 “after foolishly not waiting for the cappuccino machine to be installed” 😂😂😂😂😂
A bible verse after a dragon ball video is surprisingly wholesome
Keep the videos coming! I’m loving this content and the scripture that follows!
I love your channel videos where you analyze the DBZ training bro. And what made me subscribe is the fact you insert Bible verses in your videos. Keep it up and God Bless!
Thank you 🙏🏻
Goku really ate that horse
he made use of his saiyan biology, the zenki boost to keep damaging himself, then healing himself so his powerlevel increases greatly, and repeat that process
And then Vegeta claims he needs Krillin because it won't work if he does it himself.🤣
Toriyama did like his plotholes.
Love this! Thank you 🙏
I subbed for that piccolo laugh.
Dope ass video. I really enjoyed it from start to finish. & the Bible quote at the end took it to the next lvl for me. Liked, commented, & subscribed. Keep up the good work, brother. I'm looking forward seeing more.
This scene is why I started working out at 12 years old. This helped mold who I am as a person. Goku has heroic Qualities, there are worse characters to look up to.
Nice Touch With Some Scripture At The End Bro .
Man wasn't just training. He kept getting that zenkai boost from torturing himself and instantly recovering with a bean. Pushing his body to a ridiculous limit.
"Goku's hyped to hear from his boyzzz" lmaoooo
I really liked the scripture message at the end! Indeed I was blessed to have motivational characters like Goku, well mainly Goku, while watching Toonami on Cartoon Network during 8th grade as a chubby (or husky as I was called when trying on suits back then) struggling kid. Funny enough, when ending 8th grade in my private school (that was overall difficult to deal with too at that point) another overweight (if not a little more) 8th grader jokingly called me "breast cancer boy." I shrugged it off angrily and going into the following summer vacation I was heavily invested in DBZ and other Shonen-type Anime's on Cartoon network (Yu-Yu Hakusho, Tenchi Muyo(S [there were three]) , Outlaw star, Cowboy bebop, etc...) and along with my step father's Total Gym, Dance Dance Revolution, and running on a treadmill whilst playing Sonic Adventure 1 & 2, by the time I entered the 9th grade 3 months later I was lean and hella mean (only in appearance, I hear im a very likeable guy by everyone I encounter, LOL) . School seemed to be easier with the added level of focus and confidence through the Goku styled training. Also, everyone that knew me from the 8th grade successively going into the 9th were Soooo shocked at my Super Saiyan-like transformation, myself included!
Fun Fact: Nowadays I still train with a 5 lb wrap-band weight on my arms and ankles, just for the effect of looking and being like Goku and Piccolo when they would throw their weighted gear off. Also, it was a happy coincidence that my high school back then had a mandatory TaeKwonDo gym class for the 9th and 10th grade boys. My previous leg training unfortunately made me soo strong to the point of fracturing my Dojang sparing partner's (John S. was his name) shin, even through thick padding, when he defended my low sweep trip attack. That was at least 22 years ago, and I still maintain my stance of reserved defensiveness to protecting others while not falling into violent aggressiveness along with continual training! Still trying to get good with that One Punch Man training these days! Did I mention I loved the hell outta Shenmue on Dreamcast back then too!
4:22 I died at this part
The Saiyan Zenkai boost was always hindered by weak healing.
- It would normally take months of recovery from an almost death scenario. And if the Saiyan body is permanently damaged such as losing a limb then it's game over.
- Frieza's medical machines was a vast improvement in healing but it still had it's fair limits since it could not regrow biomass.
- Senzu beans however are just insane. They heal you in an instant, even broken body parts that is impossible to heal. The only downside is that Korin is the only one able to make them and is still considered very difficult.
the "idk who your favorite protagonist is probably some skinny teenager but they aint built like goku" line made me laugh so hard bro cuz its true af
fire video and good commentary, u gonna blow up eventually if u keep going. somebody talking ab dbz that doesn’t have an annoying voice and is funny 😮
Nice work, bro. I clicked on this vid just cuz and it turned out way better than i thought it would be.
Thanks man, I appreciate that
"I don't know who your favorite anime character is. Probably a skinny teenager..."
Guts would like a word with you.
You’re certified
The goku training camp to namek arc inspired millions of kids to work out
Cheating through SENZU BEANS! Did Vegata EVEN have them?? NO!! He ain't special. He's just using a special cheat!
🤨 That's like saying you're a cheater for using creatine
Namek Saga was really some heat ngl
Toriyama really got into hia bag and pulled out only heat 🔥🔥
Great point about when he hit his stride as a fighter, never thought about that
Really great vid.
Yusuke from Yu Yu Hakusho is hardly a skinny teen. (His my favorite anime protagonist by the way.)
Yu Yu Hakusho is one of my favorite anime. Yusuke is a beast, but to be fair… by definition he is quite literally a “skinny teenager.” He makes up for it with how much of a dawg he is though 💪🏻
@@SensibleSaiyan Not too mention he might as well have a Bruce Lee body type. He looks skinny but when his shirt is off. The dude is literally built for close range combat.
Imagine if he could have had the caffeine from the cappuccino machine.
Not gunna lie I was just working out outside while watching this vid goku got my shoulders maxed out 😂😂🔥
Goku produced more successful athletes than any gym teacher ever has
Back when they made training worth the wait.
8:41 this part is why i followed
Love your content!
"They're going through it bad" lol
9:00 you cant put a number on zenkai boosts 😅 think about it. Gohan was at the level of saiyan saga vegeta against Recoome then got a zenkai that put him on par with Frieza. Then another zenkai that made him able to contend (briefly) with 3rd form. Heck, Vegeta was at the level of 1st form Frieza then was stronger than form 3. Goku went from 180k to millions after Ginyu.
In conclusion, the boost from zenkai is whatever Toriyama wants it to be and it's inconsistent
I totally agree with you about the zenkai boosts. The number I put on it is pure speculation. But I think it might be pretty accurate, since Goku struggled hard with 20x gravity at the start of his training. So it was for sure one of those more reasonable boosts
I miss the times when actually training and getting creative with training really makes the difference. Now in the mew series they train as if it is nothing
In the new series they use time chambers, meditation training weighted suits, new energy type training and more though.
@bnbnism yes but all of this as if they have done nothing
@@mahmoudmesleh1095 what? The training they do shows how much it paid off with Vegetas energy training and Goku's use of AUI
Re-watching this is almost makes sense his heart gave out im future trunks timeline; he was pushing waaaaaay to much
That or he got the virus when he bit Frieza’s tail
This was one of the amazing training sessions in dbz