@@hazchemel he was an air gunner during battle stations ,and also said ,that after bri ginger that ship down they shut off engines off and survived the depth charges, he also stated that the sub was leaking in several places.
The pics of Cpt Matsubara shows him in what appears to be an IJA uniform. Usually pics have naval officers in either the dark blue or white tropical uniforms. I assume they had a drab uniform similar to army as well
I was born December 1944 so the war was almost over but I joined the navy a couple of years after highschool and as it turned out on December 31, 1992 I retired from the navy after 22 plus years of active and reserve duty. Always love learning about what actually happened back during that war. All of my entire active duty service was related to the cold war between US and the Soviet threat. Never made it to Viet Nam and so don't really know that much about that conflict. I have played golf several times with a Guadalcanal veteran who just turned 100 this past December and he is a dear man. A hero in my view.
Soon to be follow nearby with the dreadnaught battleship USS Texas. After spending about a year and a half in dry dock, Texas was re-floated this week but with another year of restoration before she opens to the public again.
Been by it but have not gone in. I went inside a WWII Sub at the Port of Corpus Christi in about 1951. I remember how high we had to step to get over through the doors or hatches between compartments. I was only about 12 years old.
When faced with torpedoes.." Let us be clear... Faced with torpedoes, which by 1944 finally worked. A solution late in 1943 to a problem that cost hundreds of submariner lives.
They lost many, many destroyers and cruisers in the Solomon Islands campaign. Those losses were never recovered and contributed greatly to the IJN’s anti submarine warfare problems
@@DaveW871 Depends on how many available drydocks they had to build destroyers in, because the amount of materials is irrelevant without having places to build ships in.
very well done. I love the fact you narrated that yourself. no robo crap. Very impressed. been studying WWII for ~35 years. this is easily one of the better videos.
SHOKAKU was the most effective Japanese carrier of the war in terms of offensive operations against the U.S. Navy but by June 1944 the Japanese could not embark effective air groups on any of their carriers. Their aircraft types had become obsolete against their counterparts in the U.S. fast carrier task forces and could not make significant penetrations through their shipboard antiaircraft defenses. The Kido Butai, the Japanese Mobile Fleet carrier force, essentially did its damage to the U.S. Navy in 1942. By 1944 they were outclassed and totally outnumbered and the loss of its carriers had become only an inevitable matter of time.
I read in the instruction sheet of Tamiya's 1/700 Zuikaku that it apparently had been given a bulbus bow, like Yamato, however since it is a waterline model, it doesn't provide the full hull. Once again, great as usual. Take care, and all the best.
I was reading H. P. Willmott's Battleship Designs of 20th Century and, in the first section, he's discussing the bulbuous bow of 1890-1910 battleships. Those were ramming aids because, in those years - following 1500 years of battleship needs to ram (apparently, their missile and 16-inch guns weren't used in 814ad's battles!!), standard design included bulbous bows to ram. Still. Even the HMS Dreadnought had a raked-forward bow design as well, for that ramming purpose.
Nice summation. The excess crew casualties is puzzling. The writing was on the wall and it seems like there was not a lot of haste in abandoning ship. Rescue ships were immediately available, the weather wasn’t an issue, and rescuers were not pressed by enemy attack. Hat’s off to the USN Submarine service. After a rough start, they crippled Japan’s economy and did serious damage to her naval forces. I don’t think any other national Submariners had that kind of record.
The high death toll came because _Shokaku_ sank faster than anticipated. Before the forward explosion, it was assumed that _Shokaku_ was going to take a while to sink. So the surviving crew was ordered to assemble on the aft part of the flight deck for a fairly leisurely roll call. While this roll call was taking place, the forward explosion occurred, and now _Shokaku_ had only a few minutes left above water. The ship lurched forward and downward suddenly, and the stern rose into the air. The crew having roll call were desperately trying to find anything to grab onto so they wouldn't tumble forward into the open aft elevator pit and the inferno that was the hanger decks. Many fell into that pit and died from the fall or the flames. It was a horrific scene according to surviving witnesses.
Escorting merchant vessels wasn't high on the IJN list. In contrast to the UK/Commonwealth strategy and tactics. Its importance was no doubt helped by WW1 experiences. A lady at my first job in the 60s, always ordered lots of paper, as she had learnt from the WW1 sub blockade !
The US submarine fleet concentrated on Japanese oil tankers running between Malaysian oil fields and Japan, so in the end the IJN ended up bottled up in port for lack of fuel.@@paulsanderson9586
I have read where hundreds of sailors had gathered on the aft flight deck awaiting an orderly evacuation when the Shokaku suddenly and sharply tilted up stern-first. This caused the men to lose footing and slide forward and fall into the collapsed rear elevator which was by then an inferno. A horrible end. To the producer: Excellent presentation. BTW, "forecastle" is often pronounced "FOC-sul."
The Shokaku class were the IJN's best carrier class, and until Essex class carriers came into service, possibly the best carrier class in the Pacific war. I'd put the USN's Yorktown class as better, due to somewhat better damage control capability, but it is arguable. In the Battle of the Philippine Sea, most IJN carriers' pilots were inadequately trained and faced a mix of experienced USN pilots and USN pilots from a training system that worked well (quality and quantity). The IJN had lost too many experienced pilots and destroyers in the fights in the Solomons. Philippine Sea started the reckoning for the IJN's inability to replace those losses.
Agreed. I think if the Japanese naval aircraft folded their wings to the same level that the US planes. (TBF, F6F for example) they could have nearly double the aircraft numbers. Maybe. That or half the hanger space. I say this becuase the yortowns have 1 hanger and the flight deck so Ive heard, vs the 2 that the shokaku's have. Yet they carry similar numbers of aircraft. Personally I think the storage of the american planes is the bigger reason. Folding them wings.
Exactly. You know your history! The fact you bring up, combined with the use of raw petroleum in the ships at that point in the war, basically guaranteed a military disaster like the Japanese faced that day.
Very nice and informative video. One interesting fact: both at Coral Sea and Santa Cruz carrier battles, the torpedo bombers that crippled USS Lexington and USS Hornet were from the Shokaku "air group"
Very good! But would have appreciated simply tactical maps (graphics) showing the positions and distances between the various different Japanese and U.S. ships mentioned as they converged and exchanged fire. Would have helped me better visualize the battle.
True. "The Crane Sisters"...had only one high pressure water pump for fire fighting. The Essex class had 3 and asbestos curtains on hangar deck. Correct me, but I believe they had bucket brigades going as she was sinking.
Crosser, I have a request for a video that I'd like you to consider producing. I'm asking that you produce a video on the sinking of the Japanese Destroyer Miyuki after it's collision with the destroyer Inazuma in June of 1934. I've never been able to find any details behind this. In fact, I've never even been able to discover the captain's name or even whether the ship rammed Inazuma or was rammed by her. Whether you produce it or not, your channel remains the gold standard on the Imperial Navy. Well done...
IJN crews had specific personnel assigned to damage control. The problem with that was if your damage control group was killed or disabled that was mostly end of it. USN crews were All trained in damage control. Big difference in results
Very interesting. Good video. Strange that Shokaku was eventually killed by Avgas vapors building up, which is what eventually destroyed the Lexington at Coral Sea. Shokaku's aircraft caused the damage that sank the Lexington.
This is a good video. A suggestion for future ones: Keep the verb tense consistent. Switching back and forth between past and present tense is distracting. This is a good video.
This is the first time I’ve heard detail accounts about the damage control when they were trying to save the ship. I am very much impressed it’s good. Do you have like a book source or something that I could reference and that way I could check it out at the library.
There are many Osprey Publishing books in the New Vanguard Series on Japanese ship classes, from aircraft carriers to destroyers Each of these books detail each ships actions, and demise. Along with many photographs rarely found elsewhere. A common theme is uneven damage control between the same class of ships. Detailed info is given on all major ships from cruisers upward. Not as much with destroyers because so many of them. Jap destroyers were totally in adequate anti sub and near useless anti air support. They were impressive surface warfare platforms, mostly due to torpedoes
I like your delivery and appreciate your preparation. I would like to the a list of references for your research, and suggest you publish them in your notes. But I subscribed today & look forward to seeing more of your work. Thanks. DOUG out
The IJN was out of pilots and aircrews after this battle. Zuikaku was used as a decoy at Leyte Gulf to draw Halsey away from defending the amphibious landing and he fell for it.
One reason that Japanese ships were less prone to survive on-board fires is that, unlike the U.S. Navy where every sailor is given training in fighting fires, the Japanese only provided this instruction to designated damage control personnel.
If possible, can you do a video on Japanese Paper/blueprint ships, especially focus on CVs. I dont hear much info on them esp arnd youtube (lol worst place for info). Just putting an idea out there cuz ye why not😅
It was a very important event in the war for the US as was the sinking of the rest of their carriers that were at Midway & other engagements including The Philippine Sea but i think the loss of The Yamato was worse for Japan at Wars end & with all on board & the time & manpower to build her it was one hell of loss . For us it was one of the major turning points in the War.
"The loss of Shokaku was significant in a few ways" Yeah, one of my favourite ships of all time an absolute beauty has been sunk. 😭😭. Yeah I really do love the Shokaku class that much. I do have a couple questions though on a more serious note. The first is, in your developing shokaku video you talked about how the torpedo protection was around 53% less effective than what it would havd been had they gone with the live testing. If they did have that level of torpedo protection how much of a difference if any could that have made? The second is, both ships haven't been found. The two sisters are forever apart by what looks to be nearly 2000miles. Will their wrecks ever be discovered?
I wonder if the survivors were able to successfully handle being such? I believe, it was honorable to first, refuse rescue attempts and secondly, I'm sure they considered taking their own lives, but somehow found the courage to choose life. Thanks for the report! Nicely done...
Musashi, Shinano and Yamato were greater losses. Edit to add... Ironically, Shokaku was lost the same way USS Wasp (CV-7) was on 15 September 1942. Each ship took three torpedoes, and burned for hours before sinking.
While the IJN excelled at its fleet and air operations thru the war until near its end their damage control procedures and preparations were lacking. I'm curious as to whether they never seriously believed their ships would ever be put into life or death circumstances or they over estimated the abilities of their damage control efforts. Which ever is not important now but it was a factor in the loss of several capitol ships during the conflict. The damage control of the US carrier Lexington comes to mind. Badly damaged and repaired after the Coral Sea. She had to be attacked twice a Midway.
My father was on that crew that took that ship down. He didn't talk much . But was one of the best fathers in the world my dad
Yeah? I bet he was, may Our Lord keep him close.
@@hazchemel he was an air gunner during battle stations ,and also said ,that after bri ginger that ship down they shut off engines off and survived the depth charges, he also stated that the sub was leaking in several places.
Mine was the other one
Much respect, admiration & gratitude to your father ! God bless and know his service is appreciated. GBjj
She took an incredible amount of damage..
The pics of Cpt Matsubara shows him in what appears to be an IJA uniform. Usually pics have naval officers in either the dark blue or white tropical uniforms. I assume they had a drab uniform similar to army as well
Good video. The Cavalla is open to the public in Galveston TX
I was born December 1944 so the war was almost over but I joined the navy a couple of years after highschool and as it turned out on December 31, 1992 I retired from the navy after 22 plus years of active and reserve duty. Always love learning about what actually happened back during that war. All of my entire active duty service was related to the cold war between US and the Soviet threat. Never made it to Viet Nam and so don't really know that much about that conflict. I have played golf several times with a Guadalcanal veteran who just turned 100 this past December and he is a dear man. A hero in my view.
Well- balanced, matter- of- fact video that gets right to the point. A first- class job...as usual...
Their biggest loss was at pearl.
We are not defeated by sinking a ship,we just get pissed off and now the consequences.
The use of the model was very helpful. 👍🏼
Agreed. Very nice touch indeed!
Thanks for the video.
I've toured the USS Cavalla a couple of times. She is a museum ship in Galveston, Texas.
Wish I known she is there.
Soon to be follow nearby with the dreadnaught battleship USS Texas. After spending about a year and a half in dry dock, Texas was re-floated this week but with another year of restoration before she opens to the public again.
Been by it but have not gone in. I went inside a WWII Sub at the Port of Corpus Christi in about 1951. I remember how high we had to step to get over through the doors or hatches between compartments. I was only about 12 years old.
You might be interested in the old tv show "The Silent Service" on RUclips. They have an episode on the Cavalla.
@@andrewvelonis5940Thanks. 👍
Love your narration. Concise, knowledgeable and to the point.
When faced with torpedoes.." Let us be clear...
Faced with torpedoes, which by 1944 finally worked.
A solution late in 1943 to a problem that cost hundreds
of submariner lives.
Yes, the early failure of torpedoes and more importantly, the failure to address the problem was a horror.
Great video. I love concise, no-nonsense content like this. The use of scale models was really effective too.
Very informative and straightforward. Great work
Lack of destroyers cost IJN, weak ASW screen cost 2 fleet carriers. Very interesting vlog, thanks
The issue was more with ASW being the biggest doctrinal weakness of the IJN (by a wide margin) than anything else.
They lost many, many destroyers and cruisers in the Solomon Islands campaign. Those losses were never recovered and contributed greatly to the IJN’s anti submarine warfare problems
The Japanese naval commanders must have wondered how many destroyers could have built from the steel used in the building of the super BB Yamato.
@@DaveW871
Depends on how many available drydocks they had to build destroyers in, because the amount of materials is irrelevant without having places to build ships in.
Yes, Japanese destroyers were designed for fleet actions ,with heavy emphasis on torpedo attacks and much less on anti-sub warfare.
Excellent Thankyou
very well done. I love the fact you narrated that yourself. no robo crap. Very impressed. been studying WWII for ~35 years. this is easily one of the better videos.
Thanks for your time awesome history needs to be told we should never forget enemy or not these were men and women
Plan to tour his Sub in May with all of my cousins on one the retired as Rear Admal
Love the model! Super cool!
SHOKAKU was the most effective Japanese carrier of the war in terms of offensive operations against the U.S. Navy but by June 1944 the Japanese could not embark effective air groups on any of their carriers. Their aircraft types had become obsolete against their counterparts in the U.S. fast carrier task forces and could not make significant penetrations through their shipboard antiaircraft defenses. The Kido Butai, the Japanese Mobile Fleet carrier force, essentially did its damage to the U.S. Navy in 1942. By 1944 they were outclassed and totally outnumbered and the loss of its carriers had become only an inevitable matter of time.
Great presentation
Moral of the story. Don't start a war with a country you have no hope of defeating!
If only the leaders who started the war would be required to be the first to fight in the war, we would have far fewer wars. We can dream, can't we?
I read in the instruction sheet of Tamiya's 1/700 Zuikaku that it apparently had been given a bulbus bow, like Yamato, however since it is a waterline model, it doesn't provide the full hull.
Once again, great as usual.
Take care, and all the best.
I was reading H. P. Willmott's Battleship Designs of 20th Century and, in the first section, he's discussing the bulbuous bow of 1890-1910 battleships. Those were ramming aids because, in those years - following 1500 years of battleship needs to ram (apparently, their missile and 16-inch guns weren't used in 814ad's battles!!), standard design included bulbous bows to ram. Still. Even the HMS Dreadnought had a raked-forward bow design as well, for that ramming purpose.
gorgeous model.
Nice summation.
The excess crew casualties is puzzling. The writing was on the wall and it seems like there was not a lot of haste in abandoning ship.
Rescue ships were immediately available, the weather wasn’t an issue, and rescuers were not pressed by enemy attack.
Hat’s off to the USN Submarine service. After a rough start, they crippled Japan’s economy and did serious damage to her naval forces. I don’t think any other national Submariners had that kind of record.
The high death toll came because _Shokaku_ sank faster than anticipated. Before the forward explosion, it was assumed that _Shokaku_ was going to take a while to sink. So the surviving crew was ordered to assemble on the aft part of the flight deck for a fairly leisurely roll call. While this roll call was taking place, the forward explosion occurred, and now _Shokaku_ had only a few minutes left above water. The ship lurched forward and downward suddenly, and the stern rose into the air. The crew having roll call were desperately trying to find anything to grab onto so they wouldn't tumble forward into the open aft elevator pit and the inferno that was the hanger decks. Many fell into that pit and died from the fall or the flames. It was a horrific scene according to surviving witnesses.
Weird that Japan did very little to counter the threat of submarines
Escorting merchant vessels wasn't high on the IJN list. In contrast to the UK/Commonwealth strategy and tactics. Its importance was no doubt helped by WW1 experiences.
A lady at my first job in the 60s, always ordered lots of paper, as she had learnt from the WW1 sub blockade !
The US submarine fleet concentrated on Japanese oil tankers running between Malaysian oil fields and Japan, so in the end the IJN ended up bottled up in port for lack of fuel.@@paulsanderson9586
I have read where hundreds of sailors had gathered on the aft flight deck awaiting an orderly evacuation when the Shokaku suddenly and sharply tilted up stern-first. This caused the men to lose footing and slide forward and fall into the collapsed rear elevator which was by then an inferno. A horrible end.
To the producer: Excellent presentation. BTW, "forecastle" is often pronounced "FOC-sul."
Great little video. Here's to you completing your ship model!
No-nonsense comment, complete with scale models for reenactment, make for a pithy, first-class video. Thanks so much for posting!
The Shokaku class were the IJN's best carrier class, and until Essex class carriers came into service, possibly the best carrier class in the Pacific war. I'd put the USN's Yorktown class as better, due to somewhat better damage control capability, but it is arguable. In the Battle of the Philippine Sea, most IJN carriers' pilots were inadequately trained and faced a mix of experienced USN pilots and USN pilots from a training system that worked well (quality and quantity). The IJN had lost too many experienced pilots and destroyers in the fights in the Solomons. Philippine Sea started the reckoning for the IJN's inability to replace those losses.
Agreed.
I think if the Japanese naval aircraft folded their wings to the same level that the US planes. (TBF, F6F for example) they could have nearly double the aircraft numbers. Maybe.
That or half the hanger space.
I say this becuase the yortowns have 1 hanger and the flight deck so Ive heard, vs the 2 that the shokaku's have. Yet they carry similar numbers of aircraft. Personally I think the storage of the american planes is the bigger reason. Folding them wings.
Exactly. You know your history!
The fact you bring up, combined with the use of raw petroleum in the ships at that point in the war, basically guaranteed a military disaster like the Japanese faced that day.
Info that I was not aware of.
this Video was a breath of fresh air, great job
Thank you for sharing yet another excellent video. The details you gave are fascinating.
Very nice and informative video. One interesting fact: both at Coral Sea and Santa Cruz carrier battles, the torpedo bombers that crippled USS Lexington and USS Hornet were from the Shokaku "air group"
Outstanding video!
good video brother...keep it up
Excellent video ....very well done..
When word of Shokaku’s sinking got back to Task Force 58. Enterprise’s Crew were celebrating her loss.
Very well done, many thanks.
thanks for the very detailed presentation
Great video
Thx for this interesting video. Especially for highlighting the function of the damage control team and thus it's often overlooked significance.
Wow ,great narration and information.
Very good! But would have appreciated simply tactical maps (graphics) showing the positions and distances between the various different Japanese and U.S. ships mentioned as they converged and exchanged fire. Would have helped me better visualize the battle.
True. "The Crane Sisters"...had only one high pressure water pump for fire fighting. The Essex class had 3 and asbestos curtains on hangar deck. Correct me, but I believe they had bucket brigades going as she was sinking.
Thanks for the history lesson. Well done, sir.
Remember the Arizona.
Nice video. Very informative.
Great video! Thanks!
I like the model and showing the hits. It would be great if you could more battle damage on your model .
Superb video. Well researched and reported. Nice work.that
Good info. Thanks.
New subscriber. Very well done, thank you.
Hangar full of Torpedos, Bombs, & Aviation Fuel make for one hell of an explosive cocktail.
Sounds like that was some type of fiery hell.
Crosser, I have a request for a video that I'd like you to consider producing. I'm asking that you produce a video on the sinking of the Japanese Destroyer Miyuki after it's collision with the destroyer Inazuma in June of 1934. I've never been able to find any details behind this. In fact, I've never even been able to discover the captain's name or even whether the ship rammed Inazuma or was rammed by her. Whether you produce it or not, your channel remains the gold standard on the Imperial Navy. Well done...
I took a screenshot of your comment and I will look into what I have on it.
Thank you.
Thanks , great video and props
Thanks for posting!
IJN crews had specific personnel assigned to damage control. The problem with that was if your damage control group was killed or disabled that was mostly end of it.
USN crews were All trained in damage control. Big difference in results
Did the captain survive the war? I was hoping that would be mentioned in the video.
Great narration!
Great job! Thanks!
Very interesting. Good video. Strange that Shokaku was eventually killed by Avgas vapors building up, which is what eventually destroyed the Lexington at Coral Sea. Shokaku's aircraft caused the damage that sank the Lexington.
nice video!
This is a good video. A suggestion for future ones: Keep the verb tense consistent. Switching back and forth between past and present tense is distracting.
This is a good video.
Well done!
The one thing you failed to mention is that it was the Cavalla's first tour of duty. I make sure to visit her every chance I'm in Galveston
And in a year or so will have the USS Texas a short distance down the channel.
use of model was great
Well done vid. Thx.
This is the first time I’ve heard detail accounts about the damage control when they were trying to save the ship. I am very much impressed it’s good. Do you have like a book source or something that I could reference and that way I could check it out at the library.
There are many Osprey Publishing books in the New Vanguard Series on Japanese ship classes, from aircraft carriers to destroyers
Each of these books detail each ships actions, and demise. Along with many photographs rarely found elsewhere.
A common theme is uneven damage control between the same class of ships.
Detailed info is given on all major ships from cruisers upward. Not as much with destroyers because so many of them.
Jap destroyers were totally in adequate anti sub and near useless anti air support.
They were impressive surface warfare platforms, mostly due to torpedoes
Battle of Midway was fought June 4-7 1942
Nice video.
Good jos as usual.
I like your delivery and appreciate your preparation. I would like to the a list of references for your research, and suggest you publish them in your notes.
But I subscribed today & look forward to seeing more of your work.
Thanks.
DOUG out
Thank you.
Nice use of the model
And without her Sister Zuikaku's luck fades away
All they had.
US Aircraft Carrier: Stand proud, Zuikaku. You were strong.
The luck was long gone before this
The IJN was out of pilots and aircrews after this battle. Zuikaku was used as a decoy at Leyte Gulf to draw Halsey away from defending the amphibious landing and he fell for it.
@@larrytischler570
But Kinkaid didn’t, rendering the whole thing moot.
One reason that Japanese ships were less prone to survive on-board fires is that, unlike the U.S. Navy where every sailor is given training in fighting fires, the Japanese only provided this instruction to designated damage control personnel.
If possible, can you do a video on Japanese Paper/blueprint ships, especially focus on CVs. I dont hear much info on them esp arnd youtube (lol worst place for info). Just putting an idea out there cuz ye why not😅
and when TOJO got the news, he put down a whole bottle of sake.
It was a very important event in the war for the US as was the sinking of the rest of their carriers that were at Midway & other engagements including The Philippine Sea but i think the loss of The Yamato was worse for Japan at Wars end & with all on board & the time & manpower to build her it was one hell of loss . For us it was one of the major turning points in the War.
"The loss of Shokaku was significant in a few ways"
Yeah, one of my favourite ships of all time an absolute beauty has been sunk. 😭😭.
Yeah I really do love the Shokaku class that much.
I do have a couple questions though on a more serious note.
The first is, in your developing shokaku video you talked about how the torpedo protection was around 53% less effective than what it would havd been had they gone with the live testing.
If they did have that level of torpedo protection how much of a difference if any could that have made?
The second is, both ships haven't been found. The two sisters are forever apart by what looks to be nearly 2000miles. Will their wrecks ever be discovered?
Thank you!
What happened to the sub that sank the ship?
The death toll of crew on Shinano was even higher but more survived.
Have they found the wreck of the shokaku,and if so,at what depth?
Excellent video and I found the use of models very helpful. I know they were the enemy but what a waste.
Days after d day.
Anyone noticed that Shokaku sunk in almost the exact same way USS Wasp (CV-7) was lost in 1942?
The "Big Bertha's" of the IJN Carriers...
nice
They didn't give up the damage control fight soon enough.
You guys really should figure out the difference between explosion and detonation.. because there is.
Did Shokaku perish from torpedo strikes or by incompetent damage control? Both plaid a part.
I wonder if the survivors were able to successfully handle being such? I believe, it was honorable to first, refuse rescue attempts and secondly, I'm sure they considered taking their own lives, but somehow found the courage to choose life. Thanks for the report! Nicely done...
IJN ❤️ 🇯🇵
Forecastle???
"My kind of town... Shokaku is... my kind of town... Shokaku is..."
Musashi, Shinano and Yamato were greater losses.
Edit to add...
Ironically, Shokaku was lost the same way USS Wasp (CV-7) was on 15 September 1942. Each ship took three torpedoes, and burned for hours before sinking.
1,272...nice number. Love Karma.
Later on,when the coast was clear,he surfaced and sent a message to pearl.I quote,I THINK THE BABY SANK,end quote.
While the IJN excelled at its fleet and air operations thru the war until near its end their damage control procedures and preparations were lacking. I'm curious as to whether they never seriously believed their ships would ever be put into life or death circumstances or they over estimated the abilities of their damage control efforts. Which ever is not important now but it was a factor in the loss of several capitol ships during the conflict. The damage control of the US carrier Lexington comes to mind. Badly damaged and repaired after the Coral Sea. She had to be attacked twice a Midway.
Forecastle is peonounces Fohksulh
"The ship would never move again, "....horizontally , it moved great vertically after that.
Probably moved faster vertically than it ever did horizontally.