IJN Taiho - Always Train Your Crew

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  • Опубликовано: 19 ноя 2018
  • This special looks at the design and fate of the carrier Taiho, or why you should always train your crew as well as build your ship.
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    Music - / ncmepicmusic

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  • @Drachinifel
    @Drachinifel  5 лет назад +1310

    This was supposed to be Wednesdays upload, I misclicked the date of release!

    • @nmccw3245
      @nmccw3245 5 лет назад +70

      We’ll take it! :)

    • @Drachinifel
      @Drachinifel  5 лет назад +72

      @@nmccw3245 guess I'll have to come up with something else for tommorow.

    • @sarjim4381
      @sarjim4381 5 лет назад +48

      @@Drachinifel Well, Thursday is Thanksgiving Day here in the US, so the video gives us something else to be thankful for. :-)

    • @stephenmichalski2643
      @stephenmichalski2643 5 лет назад +15

      Oh darn.A nice mistake.Thats different.

    • @USS_Grey_Ghost
      @USS_Grey_Ghost 5 лет назад +4

      Or even do one on the USS Samuel B. Roberts DE-413 from Taffy 3

  • @Masted-dy7xl
    @Masted-dy7xl 4 года назад +2697

    Japanese ship naming :
    Destroyers :weather conditions
    Cruisers :Mountains and Rivers
    Battleships: Imperial Provinces
    Carriers: Birds

    • @fangabxyfangabxy8563
      @fangabxyfangabxy8563 4 года назад +294

      Masted 2323 Sooryuu and Hiryu, who were named the blue and flying dragon respectively: Are we a joke to you?

    • @dunamoose3446
      @dunamoose3446 4 года назад +149

      Birb

    • @user-du1dd9py3u
      @user-du1dd9py3u 4 года назад +250

      Akagi and Kaga were actually cities and mountain names (if im not wrong). But I think they were supposed to be built as a battleship or something before they were changed into carriers 030

    • @PhantomP63
      @PhantomP63 4 года назад +110

      @@user-du1dd9py3u Yes- a cruiser and battleship, respectively. The Lexington and Saratoga were also converted from battlecruisers due to the Washington Naval Treaty.

    • @hyquan4265
      @hyquan4265 4 года назад +7

      So unryuu.amagi.katsuragi

  • @fmeraz37
    @fmeraz37 4 года назад +3163

    "If we launch enough torpedoes, we'll be sure to sink at least one ship."
    "Sir! We sank a plane!"
    "We sank a.. what?"

    • @lordgarion514
      @lordgarion514 4 года назад +553

      Then there's the sub that sank a train, and the parachuting pilot who shot down a plane with a pistol. And the American sniper in Vietnam that shot the other sniper through their scope.
      I wonder how many "weird" things like these there are that we don't know about.

    • @vinnietorres1145
      @vinnietorres1145 4 года назад +94

      Robert Pruitt Gunnery Sergeant Carlos Hathcock (White Feather) is the US Marine sniper

    • @6Six6Six6Bruh
      @6Six6Six6Bruh 4 года назад +18

      Vinnie Torres amazing guy.

    • @DreadX10
      @DreadX10 4 года назад +300

      @@lordgarion514 Saw two (maybe three) of those weird things myself. And this wasn't in wartime.
      1. ship launches exercise torpedo and throws hand-grenade in the water to alert the submarine nearby of the fish in the water. Grenade exploded too close to the exercise-torpedo who now thought, because of the high pressure it was sensing, that it was way too deep and steered upward while also turning to port for its run. This resulted in the torpedo jumping out of the water and still turning to port (as the fins didn't do much in air it probably oversteered during its airtime). Torpedo splashing back into the water and hits the bow of the ship from which it launched, no damage to the ship just a solid 'thunk'.
      2. Aircraft drops exercise torpedo to take out a sub for ASW-exercise. The torpedo dropped ballistically onto the submarine. Saw a submarine almost jump out of the water that day.
      3. same sub as 2. While doing a photo-exercise (you know, the official navy exercises that allow for great pictures to be taken of (large) fleets all sailing along nicely). There were two parallel lines of ships with room enough between them for the sub to jump up (this time a planned emergency blow). However, somebody in a sailing yacht also found it interesting to sail between these two lines of warships....... And a lot of sailors were very friendly waving and such so they waved back (and didn't mind their radio).
      When the sub jumped out of the water about 4 boat-lengths behind them and treated their yacht to a fresh spraying of blue and white bits of sea, they finally understood the waving wasn't meant to be friendly but as a warning.

    • @lordgarion514
      @lordgarion514 4 года назад +20

      @@vinnietorres1145
      I was buzzed. Kept coming up with "half-cocked". Lol knew that wasn't right.

  • @swiftbear
    @swiftbear 5 лет назад +3127

    Remember when Discovery, TLC and History channel covered stuff like this? I remember.

    • @wolfshanze5980
      @wolfshanze5980 5 лет назад +288

      Pepperidge Farm Remembers...

    • @virusguy5611
      @virusguy5611 5 лет назад +121

      @@masterofrockets And the people on YT are someone 50% more accurate or at least more impartial, or if not impartial, open with their biases.

    • @tomcatt7159
      @tomcatt7159 5 лет назад +91

      Ya now its flea market and pawn shop crap.

    • @ikmal017
      @ikmal017 5 лет назад +78

      *ALIENS*

    • @iLLeag7e
      @iLLeag7e 5 лет назад +107

      People who say that RUclips is awful are watching all of the wrong shit. Support good content!

  • @carriertaiyo2694
    @carriertaiyo2694 5 лет назад +3373

    I'm so glad you stopped using the robot voice. Your natural voice is so pleasant to listen to.

    • @falloutghoul1
      @falloutghoul1 5 лет назад +233

      Then again, the robot voice makes for great sarcastic comedy.

    • @richmcgee434
      @richmcgee434 5 лет назад +58

      The Emperor of Mankind agrees wholeheartedly. I've gotten to the point where I rather like listening to text-to-speech readings.

    • @SpenserRoger
      @SpenserRoger 5 лет назад +18

      @@richmcgee434 Lol am I missing a joke!? Can you link me to a text to speech video you like?

    • @richmcgee434
      @richmcgee434 5 лет назад +25

      Try this channel. ruclips.net/user/alfabusa It's fairly hilarious if you're a fan of (or at least familiar with) Warhammer 40K, and a decent showcase for the "sarcastic comedy" thing. NSFW though, so employ some caution. There are also a slew of other creators using the same software to read stuff from 4chan and the like, some good, some horrible. Like I said, the Hawking-voice narration kind of grows on you after a while.

    • @richmcgee434
      @richmcgee434 5 лет назад +15

      It's not the dialog. You want some poor SOB to have to explain those oiled-up Custodes loons to Human Resources? Even the Emperor Himself is creeped out by those guys. :)

  • @b.thomas8926
    @b.thomas8926 5 лет назад +2568

    For those who are curious, the Japanese Pilot's name is Warrant Officer Sakio Komatsu. A fantastic display of bravery.

    • @DIEGhostfish
      @DIEGhostfish 5 лет назад +259

      Probably the only "Kamikaze" actually worthy of being compared to the original Divine Winds.

    • @b.thomas8926
      @b.thomas8926 5 лет назад +456

      @@DIEGhostfish His actions demonstrate a singular love and dedication to his fellow sailors and airmen on the ship. He placed their lives before his own, and sacrificed himself to save them. That's worthy of all of our respect.

    • @Halinspark
      @Halinspark 5 лет назад +109

      Man deserves a statue or something.

    • @NotTheCIA1961
      @NotTheCIA1961 5 лет назад +310

      @@b.thomas8926 Seriously though. Something like that, where somebody selflessly sacrifices themselves not to take lives, but to save them, is worthy of respect no matter whose side one finds themselves on.

    • @Ensign_Cthulhu
      @Ensign_Cthulhu 5 лет назад +196

      @@DIEGhostfish The Kamikazes attacked military targets - they gave their lives to try to destroy enemy warriors, and all are worthy of that respect. People who blow themselves up in crowded markets full of civilians, not so much. I've read one book that described them as "suicide bombers", a correct term but dated by history and now tainted by unfortunate and unforeseeable implications.

  • @theknave1915
    @theknave1915 4 года назад +865

    How the explosion probably went down:
    "Satoshi! Why are you smoking?"
    "We are off general alert. We shrugged off that torpedo pretty good."
    "But can't you smell the aviation fuel?."
    "You worry to much, (flips open lighter) what's the worst that can..."

    • @brinx8634
      @brinx8634 4 года назад +22

      Mr Mosley to Mrs Mosley,
      "Oh my God! I dropped Spencer on his head....twice.

    • @garywheeler7039
      @garywheeler7039 4 года назад +64

      Actually, all it takes is for someone to turn OFF an electrical switch. Ironically. The little electrons like to jump across the gap as the switch is opened up which can ignight vapors. Someone could easily think it was safer to turn out a light when there are gasoline fumes, when the opposite is true. With normal switches anyway.

    • @dynamicworlds1
      @dynamicworlds1 4 года назад +34

      @@garywheeler7039 hell, given a particularly volatile air-to-fuel ratio at a given point, I wouldn't be surprised if a spark caused by dropping a steel tool the wrong way could set it off.
      There are tools out there that specifically avoid using steel in their to prevent the risk of those sparks you get when tiny fragments of metal break off and oxidize in the air.

    • @garywheeler7039
      @garywheeler7039 4 года назад +27

      @@dynamicworlds1 Or, wow that was nerve wracking, lets have a cigarette to settle our nerves. Yes, even static electricity or cooking could set it off too. There is a whole culture around an aircraft carrier that takes decades to develop well.

    • @kaletovhangar
      @kaletovhangar 4 года назад

      @@garywheeler7039 That happened on Lexington at Coral sea.

  • @TEHSTONEDPUMPKIN
    @TEHSTONEDPUMPKIN 5 лет назад +1550

    Given the way it went down, "Great Phoenix" sounds like a very fitting name.

    • @Paladin1873
      @Paladin1873 5 лет назад +132

      ...except the Phoenix is supposed to rise from the ashes. Maybe the Japanese Defense Force has a new ship named the Taiho.

    • @TEHSTONEDPUMPKIN
      @TEHSTONEDPUMPKIN 5 лет назад +92

      I don't think the JMSDF has a JS/JDS Taiho.....yet. But they do reuse some of the old WW2 ship names, IE Kaga, Kongo, Haruna, Izumo, Atago, Hyūga, Amatsukaze, and Hiei. So maybe one day their will be one.

    • @legogenius1667
      @legogenius1667 5 лет назад +6

      Oof

    • @Paladin1873
      @Paladin1873 5 лет назад +39

      If they ever build another large warship, I think they should name it Godzilla.

    • @weizhong7865
      @weizhong7865 5 лет назад +7

      @@TEHSTONEDPUMPKIN Taihou don't have any sisters at that time. so it's kind hard to reuse the name. it has to be one single ship of its type. maybe a new CV in the future? or a big submarine. just guessing.

  • @Herpkid56
    @Herpkid56 5 лет назад +2100

    Kamikazes are crazy, but that pilot flying into the torpedo is true self-sacrifice.
    Give that guy a cookie.

    • @seanbryan4833
      @seanbryan4833 5 лет назад +228

      At that stage in the war Japanese pilots with little training trying to attack US ships were met by well trained US fighter pilots flying faster, technically superior aircraft, which were vectored by radar equipped combat air controllers to meet them far from their targets. If they did manage to evade the combat air patrol and reach the US fleet they were met by AA guns firing shells with their own revolutionary proximity fuses (mini radar systems) that exploded if they just got close to an attacking plane. With these odds, standard air attacks against the US fleet were pretty much suicide missions already. With Kamikaze tactics they still wound up just as dead as with a standard attack, but were more likely to inflict damage on American ships.

    • @randy7068
      @randy7068 5 лет назад +63

      Fortune cookie?

    • @MikeForce111
      @MikeForce111 5 лет назад +68

      @@randy7068 lol u beat me to it. Srsly tho, mad respect for that level of dedication of that pilot

    • @loveofmangos001
      @loveofmangos001 5 лет назад +17

      He didn't literally fly into it, he crashed his plane into the water along the path of the torpedo and it blew his plane up

    • @egdod3750
      @egdod3750 5 лет назад +104

      I don’t think that Kamikazes were crazy, the Japanese simply had a very different view of life, death, religion, and duty than did militaries in the West. All militaries honor the brave who sacrifice their lives to protect their comrades and country, the difference between those and Kamikazes is simply the choice is made in the moment in the West, and for the Kamakazi in advance of the battle. Sure, it’s a very different way to go about things, so it seems odd in the West, but I think calling them crazy misses the point.

  • @anthonyryan923
    @anthonyryan923 5 лет назад +620

    My dad was a Chief Shipwright in the Royal Navy. He was the ace damage control man who taught and inspected damage control systems for many years. He retired in 1968 and I recall him virtually frothing at the mouth when he heard that the Amazon frigates were to have aluminium as the main metal for superstructure etc. The decision to issue nylon overalls to the crew sent him bananas. He died three months before the Falklands War which proved him correct in raging against the cost cutting measures.
    I hope that those responsible for the loss of those ships and their lads still have sleepless nights.

    • @fairwinds610
      @fairwinds610 5 лет назад +115

      I agree with your father; nylon coveralls would melt into the crewman's flesh in any close fire. During my career in the US Navy, all shipboard uniforms were cotton or wool; no nylon or polyester! Also, aluminium burns!

    • @donaldtarr2332
      @donaldtarr2332 5 лет назад +92

      A perfect example of the results when accountants run the military and bureocrats run the government.

    • @danielzoller6911
      @danielzoller6911 5 лет назад +105

      @@donaldtarr2332 accountants do not understand that most of the rules and regulations in the military are written in blood.

    • @donaldtarr2332
      @donaldtarr2332 5 лет назад +10

      You are "dead" right!

    • @RCAvhstape
      @RCAvhstape 5 лет назад +35

      Smart stewardesses on jetliners do not wear nylons for the same reason.

  • @wolfbyte3171
    @wolfbyte3171 5 лет назад +1246

    "By this point, the Bureau of Ordnance had been dragged kicking and screaming into reality"
    You get a like just for this comment. (the whole video is great, this takes it up to 11)

    • @boycotgugle3040
      @boycotgugle3040 5 лет назад +17

      Could you please explain the joke? Sorry, I didn't get the hint :/

    • @tonyennis3008
      @tonyennis3008 5 лет назад +193

      @@boycotgugle3040 The US's Bureau of Ordinance was responsible for designing and manufacturing torpedos. It was a politically protected and connected. As such, any criticism of US torpedos was brushed aside. US torpedoes were defective and would frequently not explode when scoring a solid hit - a plunger within the detonator mechanism would bend instead of detonating the explosive. When submarine captains reported duds and not many sinks, they were lambasted for being too passive. Some captains were sacked. The politically connected BoO deflected all criticism of their torpedoes. Eventually the evidence was overwhelming and local sub base commanders started running their own tests. Finally, after 2 years of blaming others, the Bureau of Ordinance were forced to address the issue. US submarines got their fangs and immediately began choking out the Japanese mainland.

    • @Mikey300
      @Mikey300 5 лет назад +114

      Regarding the shortcomings of the USN’s Mark 14 submarine torpedo (which also applied to the Mark 15 destroyer torpedo):
      “If the Bureau of Ordnance can’t provide us with torpedoes that will hit and explode, then for God’s sake get Bureau of Ships to design a boat hook with which we can rip the plates off the target’s sides.”
      -RADM Charles Andrews Lockwood, COMSUBPAC (Commander, Submarines, Pacific Fleet), in a meeting in Washington that reportedly included his friend RADM W.H.P “Spike” Blandy, Chief of the Bureau of Ordnance

    • @patrickmccrann991
      @patrickmccrann991 5 лет назад +79

      COMSUBPAC, Vice Admiral Lockwood conducted his own tests in Hawaiian waters and proved without doubt that the Mark VI exploder and Mark 14 torpedo were faulty. He ordered his own torpedo shop at the Submarine Base to research ways to correct the problems which were done successfully. He had Admiral Nimitz's, CINCPACFLT, support in this matter and after 2 years of war the U.S. submarines finally went on patrol with a 100% working torpedo.

    • @wolfshanze5980
      @wolfshanze5980 5 лет назад +14

      While I understood the reference, it was poorly used in the video... "By this point, the Bureau of Ordnance had been dragged kicking and screaming into reality, the Albacore fired a spread of six torpedoes". There is literally no correlation between the problems of US torpedos and the Albacore firing a spread of six torpedos... the insinuation that Albacores torpedos will now detonate properly on contact has NOTHING to do with the Albacore firing six torpedos. It was a poorly worded part of the video.

  • @dextercochran4916
    @dextercochran4916 4 года назад +525

    Japan: "This time, we use armor. All of it. Shoukaku, Ryujou, Akagi, Kaga.... NO. MORE. DEAD. CARRIERS. No one will ever sink our carriers ever again!"
    Taihou: *explodes in background*

    • @TheRogueWolf
      @TheRogueWolf 4 года назад +77

      Japan: "It doesn't count if _we_ do it!"

    • @nukclear2741
      @nukclear2741 3 года назад +23

      @@TheRogueWolf That still only counts as one!

    • @simonbengtsson9241
      @simonbengtsson9241 3 года назад +19

      Shoukaku, Ryujou, Akagi, Kaga: What did you say?

    • @jerrymartin7019
      @jerrymartin7019 3 года назад +5

      *spontaneously combusts in your path*

    • @kyleabrezzi
      @kyleabrezzi 3 года назад +9

      Albacore: I'm gonna pull a real pro gamer move

  • @johnfisher9692
    @johnfisher9692 5 лет назад +392

    Another weakness of Japanese carriers is that only one ventilation system was used whereas British carrier used a separate system for the hanger and another for the ship.
    This is what spread the fumes around the entirety of Japanese ships and why they were so vulnerable to battle damage.
    British precautions for the aviation fuel stowage were also very strict and although it meant they carried less fuel, no British carrier suffered from a bulk fuel fire like the Japanese carriers.

    • @yourlocalmemeandanimedeale807
      @yourlocalmemeandanimedeale807 5 лет назад +9

      @@user-br6jj1zj3s How long did the Yorktown live after being bombarded over and over again please ?

    • @botchii3059
      @botchii3059 4 года назад +7

      @@yourlocalmemeandanimedeale807 USS Yorktown? Maybe a year after Coral Sea.
      HMS Illustrious? A bit over a decade after Excess until she was scrapped.

    • @avery1647
      @avery1647 3 года назад +3

      @@yourlocalmemeandanimedeale807 i know its kinda late but the yorktown sank 1 day after the battle of midway

    • @GeraltofRivia22
      @GeraltofRivia22 Год назад +16

      @@avery1647 yes, but by a submarine. It seems likely it would've made it to port otherwise.

  • @jeko32
    @jeko32 5 лет назад +654

    There's one other point that I think bears mentioning in regards to damage control: Japan's largest aircraft carriers were all built very differently. The Akagi and Kaga were old and very large, and built on re-purposed battleship hulls. The Hiryu and Soryu were smaller, but faster and purpose-built fleet carriers. The Zuikaku and Shokaku were purpose-built fleet carriers, but larger and of a different overall design than the Hiryu and Soryu. The Hiyo and Junyo were converted ocean liners with poor engine systems. The Taiho was a one-of-a-kind design with an armoured deck, and finally the Shinano was built on a re-purposed Yamato-class battleship hull. This collection of different designs likely made developing damage-control training and procedures difficult to design and implement. You couldn't take a crewman that survived the sinking of one vessel and put them on another without basically re-training them on where everything was and how it worked.
    Compare this to the homogenity of the US carrier fleet: The Essex-class fleet carriers and Independence-class light carriers were extremely similar, such that you could develop a single training system for each type of ship and know it'll work on virtually the entire class.

    • @GoranXII
      @GoranXII 5 лет назад +50

      Less so in the early war mind, what with _USS Langley_ , the two _Lexington_ s, _USS Ranger_ , the three _Yorktowns_ and _USS Wasp_ . Eight ships of five different classes.

    • @jeko32
      @jeko32 5 лет назад +50

      @@GoranXII You're absolutely right, but the vast majority of US carriers were of only three designs (Essex, Independence and Casablanca), and they stuck with those over the course of the conflict. The Japanese constantly tried different things, like giving the Shinano an open instead of an enclosed hangar, which was standard on virtually every other Japanese carrier.
      I'm kind of ignoring the Bogue class here because those were sent to Britain.

    • @capnzz1844
      @capnzz1844 5 лет назад +41

      To be fair USS Wasp doesn't entirely count as she was essentially a mini Yorktown class carrier but with a weaker power plant, next to no armor, and no torpedo protection. Besides that though she was essentially a Yorktown class so the damage control setup would have been largely the same.

    • @GoranXII
      @GoranXII 5 лет назад +4

      @@jeko32
      I'm talking pre-war. the first _Essex_ was only commissioned in December 1942, the first _Independence_ in January 1943, and the first _Casablanca_ in July 1943.
      ​@Capn zz
      And two screws instead of four. And she was a different size.

    • @Raptor747
      @Raptor747 5 лет назад +5

      How were the Essex-class and Independence-class carriers at all similar? The Independence-class were conversions from cruiser hulls. The Essex-class were purpose-built, capital-sized fleet carriers.
      And of course, the US DID have plenty of variation in their carrier designs. The Lexington-class were conversions from battlecruisers. The Ranger was a unique, purpose-built carrier with plenty of its own quirks. Wasp was a slimmed down, unique variant of the Yorktown-class. The Yorktown-class were purpose-built carriers. The Bogue-class escort carriers were converted from merchant ship hulls. The Independence-class was converted from cruiser hulls.

  • @mrridley8967
    @mrridley8967 5 лет назад +705

    Remember people use a 19 point captain and premium damage control like the Americas

    • @Bartonovich52
      @Bartonovich52 4 года назад +27

      Americans have to because their ships are always colliding with other ships or catching fire.

    • @garywheeler7039
      @garywheeler7039 4 года назад +44

      The USN learned the high importance of damage control during the attack on Pearl Harbor. While in a friendly home port at a time of peace, they had apparently sent them ashore for shore leave. This changed.

    • @robertdevito5001
      @robertdevito5001 4 года назад +16

      Look at the battle of Midway, the Japanese though they sank several aircraft carriers with their strike wing, all the strike wings succeeded in doing was damage the Yorktown over and over. She eventually was sunk by a submarine.

    • @ridleyscurry2480
      @ridleyscurry2480 4 года назад

      Just wanted to comment on seeing another Ridley

    • @mrridley8967
      @mrridley8967 4 года назад

      @@ridleyscurry2480 mad dont see a lot of ridleys

  • @crucifyrobinhood
    @crucifyrobinhood 4 года назад +188

    Almost too hard to watch. Damage control was drilled into me so hard that 38 years later I still remember all of it. Plugging, patching and shoring drills. Three fire fighting schools. Endless hours at GQ. I feel for those guys.

    • @josephmichell9386
      @josephmichell9386 2 года назад +2

      Soooooo that stuff is just in my brain forever. Dear God why? What could have been stored there instead??? Just to avoid the fecal matter hitting the rotary impeller, I was On Scene lead for repair 1-F for 2 years the first as a third and investigator/hose team lead for the in Port emergency team and a DCPO and known subject matter expert in both DC and 3M all while being in actuality an AT3/AT2.

    • @crucifyrobinhood
      @crucifyrobinhood 2 года назад +2

      @@josephmichell9386 Sounds very familiar. My GQ mantra was NADISSA. "No apparent damage in surrounding areas." I eventually had 2 DC lockers and 2 DC and investigation teams under me and 2 deck divisions of seamen coming to me for help with their DC quals, along with being one of 2 designated SAR swimmers on an AOR in the North Atlantic. This on top of being in charge of 2 motor whale boats, the captain's gig and the admirals barge on top of my "regular duty" forward main deck crew of 14 lop-dick recruits in first division, line captain for #2 mooring line and an UNREP team captain. I was a BM3. Nancy Reagan got her money's worth out of me for sure. Hell, I just wanted to be a signalman but my dumb ass took every school that was offered and by the time I got to take the 3&2, first division had too much invested in me to let me strike out into sigs. The First LT and Bosun just laughed. They could have mentioned that before I spent 18 months of stealing hours I should have been asleep learning the signalman 3&2 inside and out... Ah, the cold war, when things were simple and we didn't realize it. I'm afraid this coming cold war will be very different. What were you on and when, if you don't mind me asking?

  • @Guardsmen4
    @Guardsmen4 3 года назад +225

    Albacore just wanted to hug our yandere over armoured carrier.

    • @thewhatever993
      @thewhatever993 2 года назад +42

      Azur Lane reference, i see

    • @kms-z2393
      @kms-z2393 2 года назад +34

      I see an Azur Lane fan

    • @balazsvarga1823
      @balazsvarga1823 2 года назад +23

      Get girl yesterday. Get the video recommendation about the ship the next day.

    • @vollied4865
      @vollied4865 2 года назад +8

      Best girl died to a loli never isnt funny as hell

    • @ChloeKruegerSenpai
      @ChloeKruegerSenpai Год назад +1

      Weeb

  • @d.e.b.b5788
    @d.e.b.b5788 5 лет назад +342

    Ah yes, the Wile E. Coyote airplane launching system; strap on some rockets and light them up.

    • @joeyjamison5772
      @joeyjamison5772 4 года назад +38

      ACME JATO systems.

    • @AndreiTupolev
      @AndreiTupolev 4 года назад +6

      It was used quite often; see the Blue Angels C-130

    • @CaptainSpadaro
      @CaptainSpadaro 3 года назад +1

      You mean real life doesn't work like cartoons?

    • @americankid7782
      @americankid7782 6 месяцев назад

      It works doesn’t it?

  • @mitchelloates9406
    @mitchelloates9406 5 лет назад +874

    I enlisted in the USN back in 1977, went into the Naval Nuclear Power Program, all my time on submarines and a tour on the old sub tender Hunley. All the damage control gear and practices were still from the WWII / 1950's era. In 1982 when the Falklands War occurred, I was aboard the Hunley in Holy Loch Scotland. A year later I returned to the United States, and was stationed aboard one of the first Trident submarines in Washington state. I was amazed by what I saw as far as damage control gear - nearly all of the WWII / 1950's era gear was gone, except for the occasional bits that were still useful, even those having undergone a serious upgrade - but the vast majority of it had been completely replaced, they had leapfrogged ahead 30 years or more in technology, in the span of little more than a year - thermal imagers, full insulated fire suits, modern multi-position fire hose nozzles, Scott air packs, a serious upgrade to the old OBA oxygen canister breathing apparatus, they had adopted the RN practice of using flash hoods and protective clothing, updated their air sampling equipment, and updated their fire fighting techniques and strategy.
    The USN had taken a good hard look at what the RN had went thru in the Falklands War, and with what can only be described as amazing speed and alacrity for any agency of the US Government, had completely revamped all the damage control gear and practices based on the lessons they'd drawn from that analysis, little more than a year after that war was over. It could be that many of these changes were already being contemplated, with the Falklands War providing the necessary kick in the arse to get things moving and funding provided. Those lessons extended to ship construction as well - in the Arleigh Burke class, the USN abandoned the use of aluminum superstructures to save weight, and went back to steel, based in part on what happened to the Sheffield when struck by an Exocet missile.

    • @richardcutts196
      @richardcutts196 5 лет назад +38

      The difference is that by 1983 they had more MONEY. Between the end of the Vietnam war and the high inflation of the rest of the 70's military budgets were tight.

    • @Paladin1873
      @Paladin1873 5 лет назад +89

      I remember being assured during the Falklands War that newer US Navy combat ships would have survived the Exocet damage because we had superior damage control systems, better defensive armament, and steel superstructures. Imagine my dismay when a few days later I sat in a briefing that quickly dispelled any such notions. I'm glad to see the Navy did respond quickly and positively to the threat.

    • @daleeasternbrat816
      @daleeasternbrat816 5 лет назад +24

      Well said. Anyone can learn from experience. Your own and others.

    • @DreadX10
      @DreadX10 5 лет назад +44

      And that's why 'The Sheffield Incident' is still used as a training exercise during the NOST (Naval Officer Sea Training). Basically the most important parts of the ship are lost, key command functions need to find a relative safe spot to conduct their business while the rest is fighting fire/damage and trying to get the ship back compartment after compartment.

    • @kelvinktfong
      @kelvinktfong 5 лет назад +40

      HMS Sheffield was a tragic incident. It made modern navies more aware of the dangers of anti ship missiles. The excorcets were firecrackers compared to the kingfisher missiles the Russians mounted on their strike aircraft

  • @1Korlash
    @1Korlash 5 лет назад +140

    Another problem with Taiho's AVGAS tanks was that they were directly attached to the hull. This was a design flaw present in all major Japanese carriers (at least the purpose-built ones; not sure about Akagi and Kaga), and it meant that the containers were a lot more likely to be ruptured by hull damage or warped superstructure caused by a bomb hit. The Americans, by contrast, built their carriers so the AVGAS tanks weren't attached to the hull. This kept the tanks isolated from hull damage, making them harder to rupture.
    Great video!

  • @IJustKant
    @IJustKant 4 года назад +58

    Respect to the pilot who sacrificed himself. Even if it was ultimately in vain that was a brave and selfless act for the sake of his ship.

  • @henryherold4515
    @henryherold4515 5 лет назад +774

    She can join the 'exploded when she really shouldn't have' club with HMS Hood.

    • @themadhammer3305
      @themadhammer3305 5 лет назад +187

      Henry Herold HMS Hood was a direct magazine hit and immediate catastrophic explosion, not the fault of inexperienced crew like this was

    • @LegoSwordViedos
      @LegoSwordViedos 5 лет назад +30

      I had a relative that died on the hood.

    • @ryanjapan3113
      @ryanjapan3113 5 лет назад +21

      Viridian sorry

    • @santiago5388
      @santiago5388 5 лет назад +66

      Don't forget the Mutsu and that patrol boat that was next to the Dunkerque loaded whit depth charges.

    • @kolorado7260
      @kolorado7260 5 лет назад +45

      I guess, the kursk could join that club too

  • @erictaylor5462
    @erictaylor5462 5 лет назад +504

    5:30 I would think the USS Yorktown would be the "go to" example of American Damage control. After all, that is the ship the Japanese counted as sunk 3 times, *TWICE* in just one battle.

    • @cfcblue8
      @cfcblue8 5 лет назад +157

      The USS Yorktown was a prime example of superior damage control techniques and a tough ship. According to the Japanese pilots who damaged her, she was sunk at Coral Sea, sunk at Battle of Midway in the first strike, sunk again as a different ship at Midway, and then finally sunk by a submarine. The most notable of those was her third sinking, as she had been repaired enough that the attacking pilots were convinced that they were attacking an undamaged ship, unaware that their shipmates had recently planted 3 bombs in her hangar and blown large holes in her flight deck.

    • @erictaylor5462
      @erictaylor5462 5 лет назад +20

      I'm not sure how your comment differs from mine, apart from the details. However, I'm pretty sure the Japanese didn't plant any bombs on the ship. The dropped bombs on it, but they never physically got onto the ship to plant anything.

    • @johnmiller5580
      @johnmiller5580 5 лет назад +65

      Don't forget the Japanese nicknamed the Enterprise the grey ghost

    • @Caffeine_Addict_2020
      @Caffeine_Addict_2020 5 лет назад +26

      cfcblue was just complementing your comment, you didn't provide any details to back it up. His comment is definitely a worthy addition

    • @erictaylor5462
      @erictaylor5462 5 лет назад +44

      Freerocky16,
      I'm pretty sure his "They planted bombs" was a mistake of language. Easy to do when you aren't a native speaker.
      When my sister and I were little, a Japanese exchange student my parents were hosting, made us spray milk out our noses when, commenting on her English lessons, "I'm doing okay, but I am having trouble with my bowels."
      Apparently she was having trouble with the consonants as well. Or she was drinking too much milk.

  • @Wolfeson28
    @Wolfeson28 5 лет назад +783

    Next up: IJN Shinano - Always Test for Watertight Integrity

  • @nullvoid123
    @nullvoid123 5 лет назад +303

    I think the pilot who gave his life to save his ship was a real hero. No name :(

    • @GlowingSpamraam
      @GlowingSpamraam 5 лет назад +23

      that guy is the fucking god

    • @b.thomas8926
      @b.thomas8926 5 лет назад +133

      It's an amazing act of bravery and self sacrifice. Totally agree. The pilot's name is Warrant Officer Sakio Komatsu.

    • @heizze7779
      @heizze7779 5 лет назад +49

      I think thats the definition of a hero. While other kamikaze pilots gave their lives to take others, for an Imperialistic regime. He gave his to save others.

    • @ryanjapan3113
      @ryanjapan3113 5 лет назад

      H4ze while I don’t agree on the first part I do on the 2nd one

    • @Ork20111
      @Ork20111 5 лет назад +59

      I do agree with you guys, but I think more impressiv than the fact he sacrificed himself is the fact that he actually intercepted the torpedo. We're talking about flying with 150km/h low over water and crashing the plane into the torpedo path. 3m left or rigth and you fail. I don't think many pilots could have pulled of something like that even when they were willing to try.

  • @WG55
    @WG55 5 лет назад +92

    6:36 “By mid-1944, the situation was somewhat different, with the United States Navy having had something to say about the number of carriers the Imperial Japanese Navy still possessed.”
    😆

  • @NorthForkFisherman
    @NorthForkFisherman 5 лет назад +215

    "By 1944, the situation was somewhat different with the United States Navy having something to say about the number of carriers the Imperial Japanese Navy still possessed".
    Yup. Just a little bit. And my gods, you do LOVE that word!

  • @WardenWolf
    @WardenWolf 5 лет назад +282

    The AvGas tanks deserve more discussion. On Japanese carriers, the aviation gas tanks were part of the hull, rendering them vulnerable to stress cracking and leakage due to shock; anything that warps a section of the hull is likely to cause a leak. On US carriers, they were separate tanks that were less likely to be damaged due to shock. This is why so many Japanese carriers suffered flaming deaths after suffering comparably minor damage.

    • @wolfshanze5980
      @wolfshanze5980 5 лет назад +17

      Flaming deaths from minor damage is something also shared by Japanese fighters and bombers of WWII.

    • @invertedv12powerhouse77
      @invertedv12powerhouse77 5 лет назад +21

      @@wolfshanze5980 thats because of little/no armour, and while most other countries used fuel tanks that self-sealed.
      Seems like in the japanese design pilosophies they hardly looked into fire control/ fire prevention

    • @nerfinator03
      @nerfinator03 5 лет назад +3

      @@invertedv12powerhouse77 seems weird seeing how their houses were matchboxes

    • @zambiakid
      @zambiakid 5 лет назад +31

      @@invertedv12powerhouse77 Japanese planes were built light, lacking armor, with non-sealing fuel tanks, to increase their range and maneuverability. American planes were built heavy, with armor for pilot and essential systems, and self-sealing fuel tanks. While this made US planes slower and less maneuverable, this allowed them to take hits and return home, something the nimble IJN planes couldn’t do. It was a product of lack of innovation- Japanese aircraft needed to be light because the Japanese aero-engine industry could not deliver powerplants with enough power to adequately service a heavier airframe.
      At the start of the war Japanese planes were formidable - They amassed an amazing 12 to 1 kill ratio at the beginning of WWII. When introduced the zero was considered the most capable fighter in WW2. Once the Hellcat came on the scene, the Japanese were doomed. Hellcat pilots shot down more than 5300 Japanese aircraft, with a kill ratio about 19:1. The Americans learnt how to deal with the threat and developed new models to counter and the Japanese didn't bother adapting or inventing anything new (or couldn't)

    • @jimoleson1695
      @jimoleson1695 4 года назад

      As Jack Webb used to say on Dragnet, "Right, I got it, thanks."

  • @eganburg
    @eganburg 3 года назад +122

    if japan won the war, that torpedo dude would have his own movie by now

  • @mr16ga
    @mr16ga 5 лет назад +151

    I was ships company on the USS Coral Sea CVA 43 from 74 to 76 there was hardly a day that passed with out a fire on the ship. Mostly electrical but fuel from time to time, so it is no surprise that this ship got lit up. The reason this is relevant is the Coral Sea was built during WW2 and she was heavily armored. When I was on board we still had C1 aircraft that used AV gas. It would give me pause when the C1 were being fueled, for good reason. My birthing compartment was on top of the AV gas separator, the fumes were so thick it give me head aches and make me woozie.

    • @QuizmasterLaw
      @QuizmasterLaw 5 лет назад +14

      Thank you for defending freedom.

    • @dakers2052
      @dakers2052 5 лет назад +16

      When I first enlisted in 1980, I worked with a couple of corpsman who had served on USS Coral Sea in the early 1970's. They told me that many of the crew would wrap their uniforms in plastic to ensure leaking aviation fuel would not soak into their uniforms (not to mention the fumes). Your experiences does not surprise me, based on what I had been told by my fellow shipmates over the years. Hopefully, you've not had any health issues due to the HAZMAT issues of the ship.

    • @mr16ga
      @mr16ga 5 лет назад +18

      @@QuizmasterLaw No health issues to date. One time the Oakland Health Department wanted to inspect the Corl Sea for food related problems. The Captain would not let them on the ship. Every time we would pull out of Oakland half the crew would get the runs until their system got used to the food. I lost 30 lbs because I could not eat the food.

    • @danielzoller6911
      @danielzoller6911 5 лет назад +22

      @@mr16ga I remember the taste of JP 5 in the water fountain near the flight deck on the Midway CV-41 and then later again on the Ranger CV-61. Those of us who worked the flight deck were told it was just our imagination we were tasting jet fuel. Imagine that over 1k men all having the same imaginary thing at the same time...............

    • @bendriscoll6631
      @bendriscoll6631 2 года назад

      Uhhh, that's supposed to be "berthing compartment", isn't it? Big difference.

  • @steweygrrr
    @steweygrrr 4 года назад +59

    So what killed Taihou, design flaws or being in a fleet with the destroyer Shigure? For those who are unaware Shigure was one of the Shiratsuyu class of destroyers and was known as 'Shigure of Sasebo,' named after her home port due to her being one of the IJNs 'lucky ships' along with the likes of the Kagerou class destroyer Yukikaze (which was known as Yukikaze of Kure). She also had another much darker nickname that was not mentioned around her: Shigure the Fleet Killer. On three separate occasions she was the sole survivor of the action she had been involved in, including the -Massacre- Battle of Surigao Strait and Taihou's ill fated final mission.

  • @potatosaurus8694
    @potatosaurus8694 5 лет назад +133

    Regarding the cool names; I totally agree. The names sound amazing. The IJN naming convention usually assign super cool names not only to capital ships, but also to their other ships, even their numerous destroyers because they thought that ships having names would positively influence morale of the crew.
    Some names are taken from mountains, like the carrier Akagi from Mt. Akagi, or the four Takao-class heavy cruisers, Takao, Atago, Maya and Chokai were also named after mountains. The Kongou class battlecruisers also fall in this camp. Some ships, mostly cruisers, have names that come from rivers, like the Mogami class cruisers, or the Nagara class cruisers. Also, many capital ships were named after ancient Japanese provinces. Carrier Kaga, superbattleships Yamato and Musashi are some examples. The two Big 7 sisters Nagato and Mutsu are also named after ancient provinces.
    A lot of fleet carriers beside Akagi and Kaga got seriously cool sounding names though. Hiryuu means 'flying dragon', Souryuu means 'azure dragon', Shoukaku means 'soaring crane', Zuikaku means 'auspicious crane', Unryuu means 'cloud dragon', though her sister Katsuragi was named after a mountain. Hiyou means 'flying falcon' and Junyou is a peregrine. Shoho means 'lucky phoenix' and Ryuho means 'dragon phoenix'. Basically Dragon Ball imagery everywhere.
    However I think the best names actually go to the destroyers. Destroyers are usually named after natural phenomena or traditional seasons. Not in any particular order or implying any class relations, I'm just listing them as I recall them but here are some examples. Fubuki is literally 'blizzard', Yuudachi means 'evening rain', Akatsuki means 'dawn', Hatsushimo means 'first frost', Ayanami means 'weaving waves'. Wakaba means 'young leaves', Yukikaze 'snowy wind', Samidare 'Rain in May', Shirayuki 'white snow', Shimakaze means 'island wind', Hatsuharu means 'beginning of spring', Ariake 'daybreak', Kagerou 'mirage' and many many many more cool names. Most of the Mutsuki class were named after old lunar calendar names for months. Mutsuki is equivalent to 'January', Kisaragi 'February, Yayoi 'March' and so on. The way the ships are named really reflect the love the Japanese have for their history, geography and nature. A lot of the names are passed down to JMSDF ships today.
    Source: I speak Japanese and am a fan of WWII ships, not only Japanese ones.

    • @YourMom-vz2qx
      @YourMom-vz2qx 4 года назад +15

      Deborah Meltrozo I think naming ships after some people to honor them is pretty cool but I can’t understand naming them after cities. You spend like millions on the damn thing is it so hard to at least try to be creative. You don’t get to name a ship every day put in some effort ,damn it.

    • @boiledliddo
      @boiledliddo 4 года назад +9

      Samuel B. Roberts (nicknamed Sammy B by some gamers) is a cool name. Javelin is favorite british ship. And Yukikaze - the lucky ship, is my favorite among IJN ships. :)

    • @MatchaLuka
      @MatchaLuka 4 года назад +2

      USS TRUMP

    • @5peciesunkn0wn
      @5peciesunkn0wn 3 года назад +1

      Oooooh. I thought the destroyers were named after rivers and stuff.

    • @tremedar
      @tremedar 3 года назад +11

      @@MatchaLuka I didn't realize the US was commissioning waste barges into the navy...

  • @Halinspark
    @Halinspark 5 лет назад +95

    I think another great example of American damage control practices is that the second Lexington was written off by the Japanese as sunk like, two or three times, only for her to show up again a couple months later. They seemed pretty annoyed about that.

    • @HaloFTW55
      @HaloFTW55 5 лет назад +40

      Would be annoying if you invested fuel, men, and ammo into killing the enemy only for them to appear again and again, almost as if to taunt you.
      I can imagine someone going
      -What the hell? Takahashi, didn’t we sink this thing 2 months ago?
      -Hell if I know Ikari, she’s supposed to be dead.

    • @whenyoupulloutyourdickands4023
      @whenyoupulloutyourdickands4023 5 лет назад +45

      Thats funny, they did the same thing with Yorktown and the same with Enterprise except Enterprise literally kept coming back over and over until she eventually outlasted them at the end of the war.

    • @eggman5586
      @eggman5586 5 лет назад +25

      Enterprise was a legend. It fought from start to end. Too bad they scrapped it.

    • @eggman5586
      @eggman5586 5 лет назад +17

      They called the enterprise the "grey ghost"

    • @MichaelClark-uw7ex
      @MichaelClark-uw7ex 4 года назад +2

      Yorktown, not Lady Lex, the Lex was sunk at Coral Sea.

  • @gtoycoma
    @gtoycoma 3 года назад +13

    ☆ In case you weren't aware, "Phoenix" was a mythical bird which rose from the ashes to fly again. Not just a "cool sounding name" (and the name of a city). Apparently NOT the appropriate name for that carrier, since it DIDN'T survive the flames.

  • @santiago5388
    @santiago5388 5 лет назад +176

    Drachinifel: Please put ANY OTHER GUN instead of 25mm ones.
    A ship designer that is a "Very stable genious": Okay Sir!
    "Very stable genious puts 'Chicago Pianos' and French 13mm machine guns on the ship"
    Drachinifel: You are a relative of the Admiral at Mers el-Kebir aren't you?

    • @Raptor747
      @Raptor747 5 лет назад +17

      Hey, the Chicago Pianos were reasonably effective, though they were sometimes unreliable and a bitch to maintain.

    • @jeffreyskoritowski4114
      @jeffreyskoritowski4114 4 года назад +5

      Or a certain flag officer present at the Jutland?

    • @bengale9977
      @bengale9977 4 года назад +3

      Can I just ask why the 25mm gun is so bad? I don't know anything about the effectiveness of Japanese AAA guns.

    • @santiago5388
      @santiago5388 4 года назад +24

      @@bengale9977 In short:
      Slow rate of fire due to a small magazine and the limitations of the guns.
      It is aimed manualy unlike American AA guns that were helped in this by electric motors, which means it had a hard time keeping up with the aircrafts it is shooting at.
      The 25mm caliber was to small to properly damage late war aircraft.

    • @5peciesunkn0wn
      @5peciesunkn0wn 3 года назад +14

      @@bengale9977 What Santiago said, but they forgot to mention that these were the *triple* 25mms, which suffered from *ENORMOUS* vibration issues. Running at a full sprint with the camera held in your swinging hand levels of vibration and you then have to pick out the guy picking his nose in the crowd that you're running toward from the video afterwards levels of vibration. (That is an exaggeration, but the sights would be bouncing all over the place and near impossible to use)

  • @ianrutherford878
    @ianrutherford878 4 года назад +61

    I'm 71.Your advice to always remember to train my crews well so that my ships and crew come home.....has confused me. My doctor says my family assure them I have no ships nor crew and home is well above sea-level.

  • @sarjim4381
    @sarjim4381 5 лет назад +123

    Japan had the AA guns she needed when she captured British examples of 40mm Bofors and 20mm Oerlikon guns when Singapore was captured. Japan was never able to master the close tolerances needed for both weapons, although she continued to produce evaluation copies to just about the end of the war. The IJN knew the 25mm gun was not the best weapon for fighting off allied aircraft, but she had been making various models of Hotchkiss guns since the early '30s and had mastered the tolerances required for them. Later types like the Bofors required better materials and machine tools, things in short supply by the time the first preproduction samples of the Japanese Bofors were ready in 1943. Japan was producing about 1,500-2,000 25mm barrels a month in 1943, and even the most optimistic estimates for the 40mm Bofors was 5-10 barrels a month. It was a matter of fighting with something rather than nothing.

    • @GoranXII
      @GoranXII 5 лет назад +4

      The issue was not the gun itself (apart from the magazine not being big enough), but the mounting.

    • @paulhinds4840
      @paulhinds4840 5 лет назад +3

      Unlike the American 40mm the Japanese 28mm did not have director fire and were not up to fast enough local control for modern high-speed aircraft.

    • @sarjim4381
      @sarjim4381 5 лет назад +11

      @@paulhinds4840 You're thinking of the US 28mm (1.1") guns. The Japanese has a 25mm gun. They did gain a rudimentary form of fire control toward the end of the war. In addition to the training being too slow, the laying was equally slow since it was all done by hand. The 25mm round was too small for any kind of explosive flak type charge, and it had the same issues as the US 28mm guin - the charge was just too small to reliably bring down an aircraft, even after multiple hits. The other major problem was the poor effective AA ceiling. It was less than 10,000 feet compared to the US 1.1" ceiling of 19,000 feet. One of the reasons why our aircraft attacks against Japanese ships were so effective was dive and torpedo bombers could orbit around five miles out at 15,000 feet until they saw an opportune time to attack and be out of range of Japanese light AA.

    • @sarjim4381
      @sarjim4381 5 лет назад +17

      @@Raptor747 That really wasn't the issue. The Japanese were able to produce good reverse engineered copies of the 40mm. They just couldn't do it without a lot of hand work, didn't have the kinds of steels needed, and weren't able to produce them in numbers that would have made any difference. Remember that US, with a complete set of working drawings, several examples of the 40mm gun, and the vast industrial ability of the country in early 1940, still took almost two years to produce the first twin mount in January, 1942, and over two years to produce the first quad mount in April, 1942. The Japanese just didn't have the industrial capacity to produce the 40mm gun in any numbers regardless of the ROF or muzzle velocity.

    • @comandercarnis
      @comandercarnis 4 года назад

      @@sarjim4381 from what I recall the Japanese did reverse engineer the borfors guns they captured however it was to little to late by then like all their updates equipment by the wars end.

  • @ioccatonyz1
    @ioccatonyz1 5 лет назад +140

    The Japanese Navy retained full possession of ALL their Aircraft Carriers. The American Navy merely relocated the position of their Carriers to the ocean floor...

    • @Bartonovich52
      @Bartonovich52 4 года назад +5

      Kind of like the Japanese relocated their iron to the US while the US relocated their dollars to Japan.

    • @tennoshenaniganizer9234
      @tennoshenaniganizer9234 4 года назад +8

      @@Bartonovich52 the US wanted some of the Glorious Nippon Steel folded 1000 times

    • @robertschumacher2707
      @robertschumacher2707 4 года назад +38

      Any ship can be a submarine. Once.

    • @calebbrimhall7488
      @calebbrimhall7488 4 года назад +4

      Robert Schumacher Have you heard of the natural tendency for Japanese aircraft carrier? Bottom of the sea, oh yes. (Read in Japanese Tokio jokio)

    • @pweter351
      @pweter351 4 года назад

      What I was thinking too...converted them to war graves

  • @jameskrych7767
    @jameskrych7767 4 года назад +13

    My next-door neighbor when I lived in North Olmsted, Ohio, was a plank owner of the Franklin. His scars were quite visible when he wore short-sleeve shirts. Quite a few stories about that time.

  • @stephenmichalski2643
    @stephenmichalski2643 5 лет назад +103

    Damn......like they mistakenly turned her into a floating fuel air explosive.Surprised they got as many crew off as they did after hearing that story.Horrific.

    • @grahvis
      @grahvis 5 лет назад +10

      And when talking about gas escapes in pleasure boats as someone once pointed out.
      'The stronger the boat, the bigger the bang'.

    • @invertedv12powerhouse77
      @invertedv12powerhouse77 5 лет назад +8

      Im surprised too. Saying the deck engulfed in flames and flames spitted out from the side you'd think most of the crew would of gotten fried. I bet there was alot of injuries

  • @357Striker
    @357Striker 4 года назад +87

    Weebs be like: *she was THICC*

  • @chiefseadawg5164
    @chiefseadawg5164 4 года назад +9

    I served onboard 2 Nimitz-class aircraft carriers during my U.S. Navy career. With busy carrier ops continually being conducted as well as the myriad other schedules of carriers, only through rigorous persistence and fortitude are the CO and XO (and also battle group commander -- an admiral) able to stick to routine damage control (DC) drills. I was surprise at how many times scheduled DC drills were cancelled/postponed, in my earlier Navy days, due to scheduling conflicts. Fortunately, post 9/11, the U.S. Navy steadfastly adheres to conducting scheduled damage control drills above all other distractions. We never seemed to be able to find the time for abandon ship drills (a real goat rope onboard a carrier), but at least DC drills went on as scheduled.

  • @USNVA11
    @USNVA11 4 года назад +5

    As a USN veteran I can absolutely state that we trained on firefighting and damage control constantly. Whether in port or at sea, DC drills were almost a daily evolution aboard ship. At firefighting school in Norfolk we fought actual fuel oil fires with OBA’s in closed compartments. It was pretty freaking intense.

  • @grimmace9081
    @grimmace9081 3 года назад +10

    thanks for the advice at the end...as soon as I get my aircraft carrier I will make sure to train my crew diligently , and then Admiral Brain and commodore pinky and myself plan to take over the world

  • @GM-fh5jp
    @GM-fh5jp 5 лет назад +11

    Regarding the damage control efficiency of American carriers V IJN fleet carriers, most of the US Navy's ship's personnel were civilians recruited after the outbreak of the war.
    Naturally, this included quite a few metropolitan and country fireman, many of whom were highly trained professionals.
    It was their advanced fire fighting techniques that were adopted by the US Navy and, coupled with a large influx of civilian engineers that enabled the Navy to field such effective damage control parties within a short time after the outbreak of the Pacific War.
    By comparison, the IJN personnel were largely full-time sailors and as such did not have the exposure to the constantly evolving new methods of fire fighting and suppression that were being pioneered in the civilian economy.
    Thanks for the cool video and commentary Drach.

  • @EDDSWORLDMEGAFAN
    @EDDSWORLDMEGAFAN 5 лет назад +54

    "Great Phoenix" how ironic for a ship that went up in a grand explosion

  • @DimoB8
    @DimoB8 4 года назад +13

    The torpedo detonated on the pilot's 20inch testicle armor!

  • @briandamage5677
    @briandamage5677 5 лет назад +15

    Good lesson about trained crews, which applies to tanks and airplanes as well.

  • @NeilFLiversidge
    @NeilFLiversidge 5 лет назад +5

    On a much MUCH smaller scale, circa 1983 when I was 19 or 20, a biker friend asked me to braze up the gas tank of his Honda 400/4, which was leaking on the seams. We filled it with soapy water overnight to try and expel all the vapour. The next day, as soon as I sparked up the brazing torch, the tank blew up in my face. No damage done to me (I'd worn heavy clothing!) I tried again. It blew again! And about another four times after that, though with diminished force each time until it was a mere 'pop' on the last one. From brazing up one leaking seam I ended up filling 20 or 30 pinholes where the explosion had blown out every rusted weak spot. I've heard of tanks from bikes that have not run for decades still exploding under repair. At a truck depot near us about 30 years ago a welder blew his head off trying to weld a somewhat larger tank. I learned at an early age to treat gasoline with SERIOUS respect!

  • @tricap1542
    @tricap1542 5 лет назад +10

    On Thanksgiving, I'm thankful for Mr. & Mrs. Drachinifel and their awesome channel!! Happy Thaksgiving to you all!!
    (American Holiday)

  • @-rangelLittleDemon
    @-rangelLittleDemon 5 лет назад +10

    Man, I discovered your channel recently n Im amazed about this channel n all that content of warships. Keep the good work dude.

  • @jpm5287
    @jpm5287 5 лет назад +4

    Stumbled across this channel, love it thanks for all the hard work.

  • @spliffy98
    @spliffy98 5 лет назад +17

    Take a shot every time he mentioned *"Unfortunately"*

    • @Drachinifel
      @Drachinifel  5 лет назад +16

      Thash a verrrlly, gud idiea... [Collapse on the floor]

    • @unclestone8406
      @unclestone8406 4 года назад +3

      For the Imperial Japanese Navy, that's a killer as sure as "and then it got worse" for Russia's 2nd Pacific Squadron.... *hic*

    • @simonbengtsson9241
      @simonbengtsson9241 3 года назад +3

      Shipgirls who does so: *Passes out.*
      AL Ise: Lightweights...

    • @spirz4557
      @spirz4557 3 года назад

      @@simonbengtsson9241 Prinz Eugen : I know right ?

  • @noahhastings6145
    @noahhastings6145 4 года назад +206

    Jap Navy Officer's Wife: "Where were you last night?? You didnt come home until 4AM"
    Jap Navy Officer: "Oh, I was at work late..."
    Wife: "Work late?! You except me to believe that?? What were you doing?!"
    Offier: "I was... Uh... Working on a Thai hoe- Taiho! Taiho! We made a new ship called the Taiho! Lot's of work. Super secret."
    Wife: "....."
    Officer: "....."
    Wife: "Well why didnt you just tell me beforehand?"
    Officer: *Relief*
    *The Next day at work*
    Admiral: "Good news men! We have a new ship coming out of the shipyard next week. Does anyone have any suggestions for a na-"
    Officer: "WE ARE NAMING IT TAIHO!! NO OTHER SUGGESTIONS."

  • @kiwihame
    @kiwihame 5 лет назад

    Great review and well done! It's always good to see channels you like evolve and it's great to see you improving with more interesting insights and improved production values. Keep it up.

  • @davidcartwright3097
    @davidcartwright3097 4 года назад +1

    I've seen many dozens of your videos... all of them are superb. And I always watch the whole intro as well... excellent!

  • @relathan1
    @relathan1 5 лет назад +4

    Earned a new subscriber based on this one video covering a sadly neglected carrier. I see it mentioned in histories, but rarely see any details about the ship.

  • @mediocreman6323
    @mediocreman6323 5 лет назад +100

    Okay, next time I start a world war, I will remember this.
    Oh, no, wait, I am Austrian, this is actually not funny.

    • @thatsme9875
      @thatsme9875 4 года назад +12

      sir, that was almost a Monty Python joke ! well done !
      ;))

    • @jimmy12347654
      @jimmy12347654 2 года назад +5

      Just don't flunk out of art school and you will be fine !

    • @mediocreman6323
      @mediocreman6323 2 года назад +4

      @@jimmy12347654 - I jobbed out of university, and I feel really uncomfortable now. Oh wait, I have a profession and a steady job. Hm, I guess we're not in the danger zone here.

  • @bmouch1018
    @bmouch1018 3 года назад +1

    This was the first video of Drachinifels I had ever seen, about this time last year. Great content!

  • @2serveand2protect
    @2serveand2protect 5 лет назад +1

    Damn, man! That's one HELL of a footage&photos! Big thanks for the uploading!

  • @Ka9radio_Mobile9
    @Ka9radio_Mobile9 5 лет назад +7

    Thank you for reporting history that needs to be remembered!

  • @leops1984
    @leops1984 5 лет назад +73

    I’m ready for Part 2: the Shinano.

    • @kevinhung3236
      @kevinhung3236 5 лет назад

      Lol

    • @fzzy5739
      @fzzy5739 5 лет назад +1

      rip in peace shinano :(
      japan's equivalent of tirpitz

    • @s3r094
      @s3r094 5 лет назад +2

      @@fzzy5739 dont compare cvs with bbs i think the Tirpitz of IJN would be Yamato or Musashi all three with a very low mission amount if u thought of the really strongest ship i would rather think of the scharnhorst -class of the
      KM compared to the nagato class of IJN both classes with a good amount of missions and Performance

    • @gameandgamer1479
      @gameandgamer1479 5 лет назад +2

      Train your DamaCon crews well part 2: Shinano Boogaloo

    • @brainwashingdetergent4128
      @brainwashingdetergent4128 5 лет назад +8

      Shinano is equivalent to graff zepplin. Both carriers, both never seen action, and both went down like a bitch.

  • @xenophonBC
    @xenophonBC 5 лет назад +1

    I appreciate your time into the research and for posting.

  • @mountainmanws
    @mountainmanws 5 лет назад +1

    Thanks for filling in the blanks on my WWII knowledge base. Superb and concise mini-documentary.

  • @captainobvious9233
    @captainobvious9233 3 года назад +11

    Imagine sacrificing your life to save your ship, only for it to go down anyhow with very minor damage because of incompetency.

  • @rms-vp6hf
    @rms-vp6hf 4 года назад +24

    In reality the “fatal mistake” happened on December the 7th 1941

  • @dalewood3676
    @dalewood3676 5 лет назад

    Awesome video. Thank you for such a clear description of the Taiho sinking. I heard most of the story when I was a kid. A neighbor Ed Wunderlin served on the Albacore. He wasn’t much of a conversationalist but I was friends with his sons. One of which relayed the story to me. Thanks again.

  • @danslotlarsen
    @danslotlarsen 5 лет назад

    Great video, I enjoyed it. Thank you for taking the time, and all off the best to you.

  • @lesliesylvan
    @lesliesylvan 5 лет назад +3

    Superb, knowledgeable and insightful documentary.

  • @Sprottel_SFM
    @Sprottel_SFM 4 года назад +15

    Next up the entire german navy:
    "Always get an escort"

  • @adamskinner5868
    @adamskinner5868 5 лет назад +1

    Another interesting informative vid, thank you, I really enjoy them and find your presentation of the facts a pleasure to watch. Really liked your "Chanel Dash" vid also and would love to see more of them. Thanks again!

  • @okramronan
    @okramronan 2 года назад

    Wow i never knew this channel existed. Now i am stocked. Amazing contents. I am facinated by WW2 military discussions and tactics.

  • @southronjr1570
    @southronjr1570 5 лет назад +8

    One of the huge differences between the US and Japanese navies in WW2 was that in the US navy, ALL crewmen were trained in damage control, to at least be firefighters. Whereas the Japanese navy had specialized crewmen only for damage control. Makes a big difference when everyone knows how to save the ship as opposed to when just a select few know how to

    • @donaldtarr2332
      @donaldtarr2332 5 лет назад +5

      This brings back a memory. 1962, Navy boot camp in San Diego, I was squad leader during firefighter training. I was nozzle man for my squad manning the high-pressure nozzle, another squad was next to us manning the low pressure extended nozzle. High pressure fights the fire, low pressure supplies a protective fan of water to shield firefighters. We are standing in the entrance to a compartment with a steel grate for a floor, beneath us is a lake of fuel oil. Instructors lit the oil, a roaring fire is going, and the instructor yells, "Hoses On!" I snap my hose on, start sweeping the flames, the other squad leader snaps his hose on, and "Clang," his nozzle falls off, into the fire. That left my squad alone to put out the fire, with no protection. "Run Away" is not an option. A real "Oh,S---!" moment. Nobody panicked, we put the fire out by ourselves. Afterward I turned around and faced my squad, said loudly, "Wow!" and gave them a thumbs up. We were just teenagers, but we faced down the dragon. Great lesson.

    • @kidpagronprimsank05
      @kidpagronprimsank05 2 года назад

      US Navy almost made the same mistake post war. That's almost cost them USS Forestal when most of specialized firefighter crews were killed when old bomb detonated first time

  • @LegoSwordViedos
    @LegoSwordViedos 5 лет назад +5

    In strategy games I always prioratize training even if it makes things hard in the short term it's worth it to have experienced crews and armys. As the war sets in it's rewarding to see the oponent panic as I took the time to prepare for the long game.

    • @neurofiedyamato8763
      @neurofiedyamato8763 5 лет назад

      Japan did train, in fact they had some of the best crew and pilots during the early war. But attrition rates were high. The Japanese training program simply couldn't keep up so by late war, you have Taiho and the Turkey shoot.

  • @johngrey5806
    @johngrey5806 4 года назад +1

    Thanks for the advice, I shall always make sure my crew is trained well.

  • @straswa
    @straswa 2 года назад

    Recently found your channel, I like your humor and amazing content. Please keep it up!

  • @b.thomas8926
    @b.thomas8926 5 лет назад +80

    To bad it's not a British ship and you can just print yourself a new ship with the R key. "Blew out the sides you say? Hold my tea." (Correction that was pointed out by Random Guy. T key instead! DERP!)

    • @randomguy-tg7ok
      @randomguy-tg7ok 5 лет назад +4

      T key! R is damicon!

    • @b.thomas8926
      @b.thomas8926 5 лет назад

      @@randomguy-tg7ok opps so true!

    • @reinhardofavercland7448
      @reinhardofavercland7448 5 лет назад +6

      Not all British ships has the "print-yourself-another-one" gimmick though. Hood proved it historically.

    • @gameandgamer1479
      @gameandgamer1479 5 лет назад +6

      >Land 7 AP shells on a Canceror with my Yamato
      >30k, not bad
      >Allied DD gets him with a torp, another 15k or so.
      >Set afire in 3 places by our Des Moines
      >Land another 4 hits, at least 2 of which should have been citadels on any non-German battleship but weren't
      >He's down to something like 20k
      >Another allied BB smacks him for 12k
      >So close
      >He goes behind an island and disappears
      >Pops back up a couple of minutes later with about 2/3 of his health
      >Sets easily another 10 fires, 5 of which were on me, before going down to torps
      I hate British battleships with a passion...

    • @gearz2570
      @gearz2570 2 года назад

      Print a new ship with R and T

  • @wilmanric2277
    @wilmanric2277 5 лет назад +12

    I have no evidence for this, but I have often wondered if the less-capable Japanese damage control efforts stems from their thinking that this is 'defeatist' or 'unworthy' of a naval officer--rather like their failure to develop good convoy/anti-submarine tactics. Protecting merchant ships is not a duty for 'a real warrior' just as preparing for the day your ship will be badly hit is 'not proper'. I've often mused about this.

  • @ethercruiser1537
    @ethercruiser1537 5 лет назад +1

    Great review of the history of this ship!

  • @1pierosangiorgio
    @1pierosangiorgio 5 лет назад

    I discover your channel. as a passionate since my teens about naval warfare and especially japans's 20's, 30's and 40's designs, I commend you on your videos!

  • @markloveless1001
    @markloveless1001 3 года назад +4

    "BUORD was dragged kicking and steaming" into making torpedoes that actually, you know, blew up. Amen, D.

  • @johncope4977
    @johncope4977 3 года назад +3

    I served 4 years on the USS Theodore Roosevelt, CVN 71. We trained for damage control arduously. On US naval ships, the XOs primary job is to manage the damage control training of the crew and it's equipment. The US spends massive amounts of money on this. Having extensive experience in the Navy, 12 years, I learned that the training of ships' crews is the US navy's highest priority. Our country spends huge money on this, having many schools in the Navy.

  • @kevenguimaraes
    @kevenguimaraes 3 года назад +1

    Man that intro music is still as awesome as ever. Makes me want to hop in an SBD Dauntless and dive-bomb an IJN fleet carrier!

  • @samnelson9038
    @samnelson9038 3 года назад

    content plus and a good sense of humor. Keep it up dude.

  • @crawford4140
    @crawford4140 5 лет назад +3

    i find it funny that US carriers Lexington (CV-2) and Wasp (CV-7) had a similar fate to Taiho's (a massive explosion) yet their crews were able to be saved just as you said due to highly trained damage control.

  • @ariancontreras4358
    @ariancontreras4358 5 лет назад +6

    I remember reading in books unlike the armored British carriers and like the American Midway class her Hangars were unarmored. Of course the American Midways needed to have unarmored hangars in order to remain an open hangar design while Taihou doesn't have this justification. It was puzzling at first to me but then I remembered that her hangars were already too close the waterline.

  • @alexkung8201
    @alexkung8201 5 лет назад +2

    As a rookie deckhand in the Canadian Coast Guard, this will be sobering motivation to pay attention when the boatswain demos damage control. Thanks!

  • @avenegas0691
    @avenegas0691 4 года назад

    Very interesting mini-documentary about WWII Japanese aircraft carriers.
    Thanks a lot for sharing it !!!

  • @tonyli8368
    @tonyli8368 3 года назад +3

    13:18 I'll keep that in mind when I need to muster up my own carrier strike group.

  • @hughsmith4008
    @hughsmith4008 4 года назад +17

    "Always train your crew". It would be great to see one of your videos on the deliberate attack on the USS Liberty by Israel. That crew was hit with everything and still stayed afloat. The crew was drilled every day mostly because the crew was needing to be kept busy.

    • @Zero01k
      @Zero01k 2 года назад +1

      Never forget the USS Liberty

  • @vikkimcdonough6153
    @vikkimcdonough6153 Год назад +2

    2:32 - It's especially apt for a ship that's (supposed to be) able to take a licking and keep on ticking, like _Taiho._
    7:48 - Props to that pilot for his efforts to protect his ship, even at the cost of his own life. 👏🫡😢
    12:30 - The excellentness of American damage control is especially clear when you consider that _Franklin_ took essentially the same sort of hit that _Akagi_ did at Midway; _Franklin_ survived, made it back to port, and was fully repaired, whereas _Akagi..._ didn't.

  • @RENEGADEJon19
    @RENEGADEJon19 Год назад +2

    For all her flaws, Taiho was a beautiful ship. That painting at the end of the video is wonderful

  • @ColonelFrontline1152
    @ColonelFrontline1152 5 лет назад +27

    _I.J.N. Taiho [Great Phoenix]:_ *_"Great name for a Japanese aircraft carrier but with terrible design flaws."_*

    • @JRandallS
      @JRandallS 5 лет назад +3

      But doesnt the Phoenix die in flames and rise 1000 years later?

    • @luvee659
      @luvee659 4 года назад +4

      @@JRandallS Not if the phoenix's mother had been nuked twice

    • @marrqi7wini54
      @marrqi7wini54 3 года назад +1

      @@luvee659
      I don't know, North Korea is acting kind of crazy right now.

  • @greebeena2818
    @greebeena2818 4 года назад +22

    I have been watching this program because I play Azure Lane...Taiho is one of the newest ships and I have the SS Albacore. Azure Lane does a fun job of adding history into the ships artwork (ex. USS Indianapolis is sitting on a Fat Man bomb.)

    • @Greystar2426
      @Greystar2426 4 года назад +12

      "I was more afraid of Taiho's reaction than Albacore's surprise..." -Shikikan

    • @simonbengtsson9241
      @simonbengtsson9241 3 года назад +3

      One good Albacore detergent: Stay close to Ark Royal.

    • @jblazerndrowzy
      @jblazerndrowzy 3 года назад +4

      Simon Bengtsson Ark Royal is into destroyers, not submarines

    • @simonbengtsson9241
      @simonbengtsson9241 3 года назад +2

      @@jblazerndrowzy, she has been described as an unofficial lolicon.

    • @ChloeKruegerSenpai
      @ChloeKruegerSenpai Год назад +1

      Weeb

  • @dontrotter1099
    @dontrotter1099 4 года назад +1

    i love this period of history and its great you covered this ship. i was reminded of the Lexington loss due to bad damage control when you brought it up. cast iron fuel lines, bad idea. it is too bad she was destroyed that way as you pointed out, how many hits could she haven taken before sinking? the world wonders

  • @adalic3131
    @adalic3131 4 года назад

    Great info, this is the type of stuff I use to love on the history channel :). Keep it up

  • @jaybee9269
    @jaybee9269 5 лет назад +9

    Lovely ship...and one I don’t remember, dare I say for good reason.🤦🏻‍♂️ I appreciate the name research...IJN carriers had such poetic names!
    Thanks for the upload...well done.
    Do Shinano next!

  • @johnparrish9215
    @johnparrish9215 5 лет назад +13

    A fuel air explosion on every deck, that is something that No ship can survive.

  • @maxyakov273
    @maxyakov273 5 лет назад

    A very interesting and well-made video. Thank you!

  • @corrion1
    @corrion1 5 лет назад

    your voice is perfect for military overviews and history talking imo!