Recording Classical Guitar: Large VS Small Diaphragm Condenser Microphones
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- Опубликовано: 24 июл 2024
- In this video I do a quick shootout between small diaphragm and large diaphragm condenser microphones so that you can see which one you might prefer!
Chapters:
0:00 Large vs Small Diaphragm Differences
2:05 Large Diaphragm Condenser
2:30 Small Diaphragm Condenser
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Thank you for posting this. I also mainly use nylon string guitars for my "acoustic" tone. In recent years I've been using resonator and for many years have used archtop hollowbodys. That's to say I don't own a dreadnaught/audiorium style and feel that micing is the best way to get these "weirdos". I appreciate what you do - you got a subscribe. :)
Thank you for all the demos. I went through your recording videos. and they were very informative. Made the decision process much easier.
Thank you! I'm really glad to hear it!
Cut to the chase straight away, well explained, awesome guitar playing, straightforward example and I love the lighting scheme.
Earned a sub from me for sure!
Btw what camera are you using?
Thank you so much!! And I'm using a Canon M50 with the EFM 22mm F2.0 lens!
As usual another good video with helpful info. Thanks you
What is your opinion about placing the small diapgragmmic aiming to the bridge and the big condenser mic to the frets instead¿ I have had to do so cause for some reason I just cant get rid of percussive low frecuences from the at2020 when placed near the bridge
This was a really well-made video with great info! I couldn't hear the difference from my Walmart headphones, so I'm thinking both would be a decent option for a beginner like me! If I wanted to record other instruments like a tambourine for example, which diaphragm would be better for a range of instruments? Thanks :)
Hey, thanks for all your videos! Could you possibly make one where you show your process for recording? Do you record each take on a different track in Reaper? What does a typical recording session look like for you?
Thank you, I really appreciate it! I'm actually going to make a video on that soon! Basically I have tracks for both my left and right channels, and for takes I usually just keep them on the same track but just space them one after another. Afterwards, I'll go back and edit in the best bits of each take!
1st of all well done recording, and great playing.. Pare on these demo vids. They sound very close,, seem the circuits share much in common, I think the sdcs are more natural to the guitar, and has more life.. 414 type mics tend to sound a little hard.. The sE 08 has a nice wooden, organic tome for an sdc.
What stereo pairs could you recommend recording classical guitars for higher budget mics?
Distance: your mics seemed pretty pulled away, I was actually wondering yesterday if I put them too close and thus picking up more of my body moving against the body + neck noise on vibratos. Just estimating about how far were those mics?
Thanks a lot for this video. This has always been a question in my mind. From this video, I feel its clear that the layman can never identify the difference between the two. So, if I sing and play the classical guitar (not at the same time), I would rather invest in a large diaphragm mic (assuming budget constraints). But what ur preamp and sound card? Where is this going to? That is important....I have a SSL 2+ audio interface.
You’re welcome! Yeah an LDC would be your best bet. And it’s going to a Focusrite Clarett 4pre! I really like my Lewitt Audio 441 flex because of the multiple pick up patterns but Rode and Audio Technica make great options as well.
Would it make sense to pair a small diaphragm with a big one for stereo recording? I have a rode m3. I'm looking for pairing it with another microphone.
Sure! Yeah that pairing would work. The only thing you’ll want to watch out for is the volume balance between the two in stereo since one of the mics might tend to be more assertive than the other. Usually I’d adjust it by either moving experimenting with mic placement or just watching the volume balance when you get to mixing. You’d just want to avoid your stereo image leaning too heavily to one side.
How would you compare the Rode NT5's against the sE8's? Thanks!
I would say they are both great mics! NT5's from what I remember can be a little bright sounding, but both are excellent choices.
I think Se8 is more usable for classical guitar. Nt 5 has more high freqs.
try a ribbon for nylon strings
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Thank you but it would have been more helpful without the reverb. Like this there is very little difference.
Thanks, I’ll have to revisit this one soon!
Large diaphragm do not have better low freq response. There is no physical reason for such a trend. You can capture 20hz with the smallest diaphragm imaginable. You just cant generate 20 Hz with a small surface but that is a sound wave reproduction issue only. See e.g. Classical Recording A practical guide in the Decca Tradition.
Yes technically that is correct! But in practice the changes in the directionality of LDC’s polar pattern in different areas of the frequency spectrum (ex. more Omni directional below 300hz) coupled with the improved signal to noise ratio lead to differences in application and by extension perception of sound.
@@colindeibertmusic I see what you mean but the short way in which you explain this in the video ( for obvious reasons) will fuel what is as a common misconception among the amateurs of the field like myself -(big mike must mean big sound while for flat response mics its not true at all so we cant be talking about a LF trend due to diaphragm size). The Decca book is a pretty fresh print and an instant bible. I think you would love it regardless of our discussion. ( i.e. treat me.as some guy who read from a wise book and now "knows better" while i effectively own my first LD mic for a few weeks only)
No worries! I’m about due to revisit this topic in an updated video, and thanks for the recommendation!
Great! I heard NO difference! lol
Lol it’s incredibly subtle unless you’re listening on studio monitors or mixing headphones 😂 In general you kind of have to work with each mic for a while to get a feel for them. But they both sound great!
@@colindeibertmusic Thanks for your reply! I just bought the Shure SM 57. I am not a professional player so I guess it should do just fine! :)
@@_mklein Totally! Can't go wrong with a 57!
Well to me they sound the same as your room acoustics has a horrid boxy reverb sound which drowns out the differences in the microphones! Great video quality and good playing though!
I am afraid that you a mistaken about many things you say in this video. You just confuse viewers.