Since a classical guitar recording generally is only a single instrument recording, you can forgo the multi-track and virtual instrument capabilities that DAWs offer, and can get by with just using a dedicated audio processing software. I have found DAWs to have a large learning curve and there are a lot of features a classical guitar recording will not need. I have also found that dedicated audio processing software often have audio processing features that DAW's do not have. For example, if you want to set the perceived volume (e.g. LUFS "Loudness Units Full Scale") of your left and right channels, or you want the perceived volume to be equal between your songs, a dedicated audio processing program will give you detailed control over these things.
Adobe Audition is not technically a DAW, but I've found it's the best for audio recording and editing. it is much more "surgical" for audio editing and audio restoration than any DAW I've tried.
Do you think its good and intuitive for beginner? Just trying to find my 1st daw for guitar recording and mastering. But what I want to aim is what Colin presented in another video 3 years ago. "Ozone Imager". I saw this plugin in pro tools and reaper. WIll it also work in Adobe Audition? ah, for the second question I found an answer - Logic Pro, Ableton Live 10 - 11, Pro Tools 2021 - 2022, FL Studio 20, Cubase 10 - 12, Nuendo 11 - 12, Studio One 5, REAPER 6, Reason 12, Audition CC, Premiere Pro CC are supported.
Colin, I'm interested in hearing your opinion about guitar videos, how are they different from purely audio recordings: a example is mixing different takes to remove mistakes and create a "perfect take", which is simpler in purely audio recordings, but in a video you can't just cut something as it would clearly show. Could you do a video on this if you think it's a nice topic? or maybe recomend some other video that covers the subject? thanks very much! I've just discovered this channel and its a gem
I really do need to do a video on this! "Short" answer is that people do this in two ways. 1. Every time you do a new take move the camera to a new angle (or use a bunch of cameras lol). When you cut together video later on, make notes on which take was used for which section and cut accordingly. Generally speaking, if you're watching a video and they change angles its either used to make the video more interesting or to just hide the cut in the audio. The second way, which honestly is more common is to record and edit together an entire performance and then mime it to your recording and sync it in post. This way you can really record infinite angles with one camera and really focus on producing a great video separately from the audio, basically how rock and pop music videos are made. A dead giveaway is if you see someone playing guitar outdoors, in a busy cafe, on the street etc. but its DEAD silent has reverb, and there's no mic to be seen lol. Again, its not bad, its just what you have to do to get a high quality video in those locations! "short answer" :)
@@colindeibertmusic I thought about the angle changing as a distraction for the cut, but didn't even consider it was common to mime the playing! I always assume it would look unnatural. This is a revelation for me because i've always cracked my head about how my favorite guitarrists could make absolutely no mistakes in almost all higher quality videos, and I have to play 50 times and always make some mistake. But since just discovering the possibilities of audio editing, I've excited to learn more because I want to record some difficult pieces, but couldn't for the life of me play something like Asturias without a dozen little mistakes in a single run. Thanks for the response and I hope you do make a video about this, with some examples.
Holy crap you have so much knowledge!!! I am a dinosaur, middle aged clueless guy bout daw and so forth , tried and failed to teach myself and just can’t find a course anywhere in video editing
Great video, Colin! I really appreciate the blunt and frank advice to avoid Pro Tools. That advice is sure to save me a lot of heartache. For classical guitar recording, what audio interface would you recommend? Is there a better alternative to the ubiquitous Focusrite Scarlett 3rd gen.?
Hi Colin! Have you tried to record with iPad? I do it with n-track and I like so much the experience. Let me share you because: 1. the Ipad don´t sounds (ideal for work close your DAW) 2. It allow me to work with my audience iD14. 3. I have a very interesting plugins for ios like fabfilter and not so expensive as desktop version, and finally; 4. I can take with me all my music edition. That is it fantastic for me. Thanks for you video! Alejandro
I use Reaper all the time with virtual instrument plugins and midi. It works great. If you want after market EQs, etc: Tokyo Dawn has some of the best free and paid plugins. Reverb: Orilriver reverb is one of the best. Plus Reaper now has normalization for LUFS when rendering (or at least I just discovered it, 😊).
Is Adobe Audition some kind of a daw? Or is it completely different from them? And WHY? I ask this because I basically never hear of it when I watch daw recommendations.
Not exactly, you could do that, but I'd honestly just buy it outright. You can usually find some sort of discount (academic, crossgrade etc.)! It's why I dislike ProTools so much, I don't particularly care for mandatory subscription models where over the course of a couple years you've paid for the software twice over and own nothing lol. A one year subscription to Protools is $299 or if you get a crossgrade for Studio One you can buy it for $299.
@@colindeibertmusic Thanks! That's exactly why I asked, you hearing explain that in your video! I guess I just have to look better than my nose lenght...could not find this outright buy option immediately at the website. By the way I already got myself Soundforge.
I actually use Davinci Resolve for all of my video! For a video like this one, I do all of my audio editing in Davinci, but when I do performance videos I'll edit the audio in Presonus Studio One or Reaper and then sync it in Davinci afterwards.
Take care Colin when walking the streets...all those monster mark DAWS wanting to eat your heart out! By the way, I recently bought Sound Forge (Magix).
Nice video, although I disagree with your recommendation. I am an active user on the reaper forum, and have been testing pre-releases for many years. I would love to fully switch to reaper, but at this moment, I still can't. The worst part is how the takes system works. I think it's objectively worse than a playlist system, especially for classical recordings where the editing can be a bit like a jigsaw puzzle. I've used ableton live, reaper, studio one, logic pro x and pro tools. Now I use PT mainly, and Logic on the side. I think PT excels at the "bread and butter" functionality, editing and mixing. Logic comes close. Presonus dropped the ball on editing. Reaper is coming along on editing, but falls short on grouping, comping and has a steep learning curve. Anyway, either one of them works. But I think there are important differences and thought it would be nice to offer a different point of view. Shameless plug of my last classical guitar recording gig: ruclips.net/video/9706HLdQBI4/видео.html
Hi! Thanks I appreciate your point of view! The take system is why I switched to Studio One. However, for classical guitar recordings I never used the take system anyway since its not to a click and its just how I like to manage my projects. I wouldn't say ProTools lacks functionality, but I just can't recommend it to people as a value especially for classical guitarists in home studios who generally don't need to interface with other studios for exporting stems and sharing projects. Cheers!
Reaper is THE BEST. And it´s free. This is the best guitar channel ever! The one we needed!
Since a classical guitar recording generally is only a single instrument recording, you can forgo the multi-track and virtual instrument capabilities that DAWs offer, and can get by with just using a dedicated audio processing software. I have found DAWs to have a large learning curve and there are a lot of features a classical guitar recording will not need. I have also found that dedicated audio processing software often have audio processing features that DAW's do not have. For example, if you want to set the perceived volume (e.g. LUFS "Loudness Units Full Scale") of your left and right channels, or you want the perceived volume to be equal between your songs, a dedicated audio processing program will give you detailed control over these things.
Adobe Audition is not technically a DAW, but I've found it's the best for audio recording and editing. it is much more "surgical" for audio editing and audio restoration than any DAW I've tried.
Do you think its good and intuitive for beginner? Just trying to find my 1st daw for guitar recording and mastering. But what I want to aim is what Colin presented in another video 3 years ago. "Ozone Imager". I saw this plugin in pro tools and reaper. WIll it also work in Adobe Audition?
ah, for the second question I found an answer - Logic Pro, Ableton Live 10 - 11, Pro Tools 2021 - 2022, FL Studio 20, Cubase 10 - 12, Nuendo 11 - 12, Studio One 5, REAPER 6, Reason 12, Audition CC, Premiere Pro CC are supported.
Colin, I'm interested in hearing your opinion about guitar videos, how are they different from purely audio recordings: a example is mixing different takes to remove mistakes and create a "perfect take", which is simpler in purely audio recordings, but in a video you can't just cut something as it would clearly show. Could you do a video on this if you think it's a nice topic? or maybe recomend some other video that covers the subject? thanks very much! I've just discovered this channel and its a gem
I really do need to do a video on this! "Short" answer is that people do this in two ways. 1. Every time you do a new take move the camera to a new angle (or use a bunch of cameras lol). When you cut together video later on, make notes on which take was used for which section and cut accordingly. Generally speaking, if you're watching a video and they change angles its either used to make the video more interesting or to just hide the cut in the audio. The second way, which honestly is more common is to record and edit together an entire performance and then mime it to your recording and sync it in post. This way you can really record infinite angles with one camera and really focus on producing a great video separately from the audio, basically how rock and pop music videos are made. A dead giveaway is if you see someone playing guitar outdoors, in a busy cafe, on the street etc. but its DEAD silent has reverb, and there's no mic to be seen lol. Again, its not bad, its just what you have to do to get a high quality video in those locations! "short answer" :)
@@colindeibertmusic I thought about the angle changing as a distraction for the cut, but didn't even consider it was common to mime the playing! I always assume it would look unnatural. This is a revelation for me because i've always cracked my head about how my favorite guitarrists could make absolutely no mistakes in almost all higher quality videos, and I have to play 50 times and always make some mistake. But since just discovering the possibilities of audio editing, I've excited to learn more because I want to record some difficult pieces, but couldn't for the life of me play something like Asturias without a dozen little mistakes in a single run. Thanks for the response and I hope you do make a video about this, with some examples.
i use fl studio
Holy crap you have so much knowledge!!!
I am a dinosaur, middle aged clueless guy bout daw and so forth , tried and failed to teach myself and just can’t find a course anywhere in video editing
Thank you! I hope to have some more tutorials up in the coming months that might help.
Great video, Colin! I really appreciate the blunt and frank advice to avoid Pro Tools. That advice is sure to save me a lot of heartache. For classical guitar recording, what audio interface would you recommend? Is there a better alternative to the ubiquitous Focusrite Scarlett 3rd gen.?
Hi Colin! Have you tried to record with iPad? I do it with n-track and I like so much the experience. Let me share you because: 1. the Ipad don´t sounds (ideal for work close your DAW) 2. It allow me to work with my audience iD14. 3. I have a very interesting plugins for ios like fabfilter and not so expensive as desktop version, and finally; 4. I can take with me all my music edition. That is it fantastic for me. Thanks for you video! Alejandro
I use Reaper all the time with virtual instrument plugins and midi. It works great. If you want after market EQs, etc: Tokyo Dawn has some of the best free and paid plugins. Reverb: Orilriver reverb is one of the best. Plus Reaper now has normalization for LUFS when rendering (or at least I just discovered it, 😊).
I've been using studio one for 10 years now
What about Ardour?
What about Cakewalk? It's free and supposed to be pretty good DAW. Is it suitable for classical guitar recording?
Thanks for making this content
Tracktion Waveform is my favorite one. But Reaper is still one I use.
Is Adobe Audition some kind of a daw? Or is it completely different from them? And WHY? I ask this because I basically never hear of it when I watch daw recommendations.
I initially thought you were talking about dogs (dawgs). Of note, I was listening at 2.5 x when I made this (incorrect) determination.
Lol that's awesome
Hi Colin, do I understand right that Studio One is part of Presonus Sphere, and that this is an application obtainable by membership only?
Not exactly, you could do that, but I'd honestly just buy it outright. You can usually find some sort of discount (academic, crossgrade etc.)! It's why I dislike ProTools so much, I don't particularly care for mandatory subscription models where over the course of a couple years you've paid for the software twice over and own nothing lol. A one year subscription to Protools is $299 or if you get a crossgrade for Studio One you can buy it for $299.
@@colindeibertmusic Thanks! That's exactly why I asked, you hearing explain that in your video! I guess I just have to look better than my nose lenght...could not find this outright buy option immediately at the website. By the way I already got myself Soundforge.
What do you use for an Audio-Visual program. I have use Adobe premiere Elements, but it's limited on audio features.
I actually use Davinci Resolve for all of my video! For a video like this one, I do all of my audio editing in Davinci, but when I do performance videos I'll edit the audio in Presonus Studio One or Reaper and then sync it in Davinci afterwards.
I was thinking about getting mixcraft. Any thoughts on that one?
I haven't personally used it, but I've heard good things! It seems fully featured enough to me.
Hi Colin, is Reaper $60 once only or is that an annual fee? Great video - keep it up!
Just once and you’ll own it! And unlike most DAWS you’ll get a few major updates.
I use Cubase
That’s an excellent Daw I forgot to mention as well!
Take care Colin when walking the streets...all those monster mark DAWS wanting to eat your heart out! By the way, I recently bought Sound Forge (Magix).
Reaper. But I cant say I really know what I am doing. BandLab is really easy..
Nice video, although I disagree with your recommendation. I am an active user on the reaper forum, and have been testing pre-releases for many years. I would love to fully switch to reaper, but at this moment, I still can't. The worst part is how the takes system works. I think it's objectively worse than a playlist system, especially for classical recordings where the editing can be a bit like a jigsaw puzzle. I've used ableton live, reaper, studio one, logic pro x and pro tools. Now I use PT mainly, and Logic on the side.
I think PT excels at the "bread and butter" functionality, editing and mixing. Logic comes close. Presonus dropped the ball on editing. Reaper is coming along on editing, but falls short on grouping, comping and has a steep learning curve.
Anyway, either one of them works. But I think there are important differences and thought it would be nice to offer a different point of view.
Shameless plug of my last classical guitar recording gig: ruclips.net/video/9706HLdQBI4/видео.html
Hi! Thanks I appreciate your point of view! The take system is why I switched to Studio One. However, for classical guitar recordings I never used the take system anyway since its not to a click and its just how I like to manage my projects. I wouldn't say ProTools lacks functionality, but I just can't recommend it to people as a value especially for classical guitarists in home studios who generally don't need to interface with other studios for exporting stems and sharing projects. Cheers!
N-track Studio. Cheep, has meters and all the plug-ins I have needed. Best of all it works with my focusrite 2i2 on windows and my android devices.
I'll have to check that out!