If we want a good jawline and a jaw that functions properly, we need to understand how the jaw works. In this video, we explore some ideas we can use to consciously control the movement and resting place of the mandible. I offer lessons in the Initial Alexander Technique, which are conducted one-on-one with a teacher over Zoom. They are designed to help you gain conscious control over how you move your body. Most people have no idea what they’re doing with their body, and as they misuse their body, they end up with discomfort, pain, and other issues that they may not even realize are caused by what they’re doing to themselves. But how do you figure out what you’re doing wrong? And how do you change what you're doing and overcome lifelong habits? In an Initial Alexander Technique lesson, you will record yourself through Zoom, so you will be able to see and understand what you are doing when you stand, sit, walk, and perform other simple gestures. With the assistance of your teacher, you will come to understand how you are misusing the mechanisms of your body, and you will gain the ability to choose to use yourself in a more sensible way. You can learn how to use your body without pain. You can break free from long held habits. All you need is a system that works. For more information or to book a lesson, please visit my website: mechanicsofpoise.com/ You can contact me at: DelsarteAlexanderMasoeroYou@protonmail.com "There are very few men, for instance, who, when told to open the mouth, will not throw the head back with the idea, as it were, of lifting the upper jaw away from the lower. " F.M. Alexander
The next video in this series will touch on that a bit. But we’ve already looked at some things that will help you there. First you want to make sure you’re lengthening and widening your torso, because you need a solid base to support a reorientation of your head. Then you can look at the procedure to move the corner of the eye and upper lip spot forward. Add in the direction to lift the mandibular angle faster than the chin. Remember to come back to what's happening in your torso, do not let your lower sternum go forward. This will move your entire head, including your maxilla, forward and up. A large part of why someone will have their maxilla back and down is because their entire head is pulled back and in a faulty orientation. That messes with all the fascia that support the head and the palate. If you want your bones to be in the right spot you need to get your fascia taut.
What are you and Jeando afraid of? Especially Jeando…. Just show some examples of you guys doing some daily activities and rehearse these orders you guys are trying to teach. Less talking more actions
What is your motivation for wanting to have a video to imitate? Teaching through imitation is very common, most of us learned to sit, walk, and do many other activities through imitation. How did that work? Most of us, myself included, ended up needing a teacher to teach us seemingly basic things like standing on two feet, siting in a chair, and walking. We really don’t learn well by imitating. So what you’re essentially asking me is, “why don’t I use an ineffective method of teaching?” That hardly needs an answer. Really think about how you would use a video demonstration. Let’s say you’re going to sit down, and you want to sit in the best possible way that you know how. What will you do? Will you try to think back to a video you saw of someone else sitting? Will you try and make the movements that feel like they should produce the image that you saw? Do you think that would be more or less effective than using the directions that you’ve learned? Really what’s more interesting than seeing someone else do an act is observing how you yourself do the act. Then you can see if you’re actually doing what you intended to do. By seeing how you go wrong, you can witness your misconceptions and correct them. In time, you will gain the skill to do what you intend to do, and then you will produce the video you’ve asked for all by yourself. But then you won’t need it, because a demonstration to imitate will be irrelevant at that point. In your day to day life, you won’t think back to a video you saw, you will think to your directions and how you know how implement them. I find that people who diligently use visual feedback by recording themselves end up not having a desire for a demonstration to imitate. Seeing someone else seems superfluous when you can just examine what you are doing in reality. F.M. Alexander also warns that the biggest stumbling block for a student is their desire to hold on to preconceived notions. Perhaps you think you will learn best by imitation. But if you’re looking for a teacher to help you with your posture, and they tell you that imitation is a bad way to learn, don’t you think there might be a reason for that? What makes you certain that your preconceived idea of how you should learn is actually effective? Was it effective in the past? Or did it bring you to the point that you needed the help of someone else? But maybe I misunderstand your motivation for wanting a video example, so feel free to explain further.
@@delsartealexandermasoeroyo9147 Most of us don’t have problems in the way we sit, stand and move. If it was the case then Jeandos videos would be a hit and not just 200 average viewers per video. I know from my experience that my parents, uncles, brother - relatives don’t have the issue that “most of us” apparently have. If one is having classes on how to replicate movements, or postural perturbations then shouldn’t one have a teacher show how to do those movements first? What’s the need for all that hassle with verbal orders from another teacher to begin with? If the orders are complete alien to one then wouldn’t it be a waste of time(especially if you’re paying by the minute) to go through all of that when it couldn’t be shown before hand? It seems like a gimmick tbh to keep the student coming back for more lessons. For example, rotating the superior knees outward and internal knees inward… one can go through the whole class(50 minutes) trying to complete this order properly when it could’ve been shown by what exactly it is and isn’t by the gifted initial Alexander teacher beforehand and then replicated which would leave more room for more learning in that limited timeframe. Wouldn’t that be most rational? Is one trying to help the student or keep them coming back for more lesson.. it really does make you think
@@ahLeftside28 Can your relatives sit autonomously in a chair for five minutes? If you observe them without them knowing, would they? Or would they be slumped or strained? Can they make a speech without audibly sucking air in? Can they bend down without complaining? Can they go into and out of a squat without rounding their back? Just because someone doesn’t complain of pain doesn’t mean they’re sitting or standing properly. People are extremely resilient. You can find an old person who has their head practically sitting on their chest and hunchback and there’s a fair chance they’ll say they feel fine. That doesn’t mean they have good posture. But I bet if you actually asked your relatives, a good chunk would tell you they have back pain or foot pain. I’ve met a wide variety of people in various jobs over the course of my life, and I’ve never been anywhere where people didn’t complain about pain. How many people over forty do you know? It’s shocking how many people need hip replacements, knee surgery, treatments for their frozen shoulder, etc. Anyone who spends any amount of time observing people will know that essentially everyone in modern civilization has issues standing, sitting, bending, and walking. If you simply mention posture to most people, they will tell you they have terrible posture. You seem to genuinely believe that you will learn best by impersonating an example. I’m not sure why. Think about how this actually works. Let’s say you’re given a visual demonstration. You then make the movements that you feel will replicate what the other person has done. But how will you know if you succeeded? Because I guarantee in most cases you would fail to replicate what was shown to you. The only way to know would be to video record yourself and see. But at that point, you’re doing what I’ve already recommended to you and not using the demonstration. It’s really puzzling, because it seems that you think Masoero is holding back by not showing you a demonstration, you imagine he’s trying to make you dependent on him for more lessons. But the opposite is true. He’s giving you specific directions so that you can use those directions when you have no teacher around to observe you. The directions are the map forward, they are what you can use in your actual life. Whereas your fuzzy memory of something you saw is of practically no use when you’re actually in action. You say that if you were just given a demonstration that you could replicate it and that would leave more time for learning. There are two problems here. First, you couldn’t replicate it. You might imagine you can, but the video recording would show that you haven’t. Second, the learning that you need to be doing is learning to apply a set of directions. That is repeatable. That is something that you can actively, practically use. Trying to orchestrate movements you’re not familiar with is inherently frustrating. We would all like to make progress more quickly. But succeeding by following directions that you give yourself is something you can repeat any time. Impersonating a demonstration someone has shown you is unlikely to even work, but it certainly won’t be repeatable. You might like reading the first chapter of Delsarte’s memoir. If you search for “Delsarte’s Own Words” you should find free to read on the internet archive. He tells the story of how he got fed up with how his teachers were teaching him. Here’s a brief excerpt beginning with his teacher instructing him: “See here; watch my movements carefully!" "I do watch, but I don't know how to go to work to imitate you; I don't seize the details of your gesture." (It varied with every repetition.) " I don't understand why your examples, with which I am satisfied, lead to nothing in me." "You don't understand! You don't understand! It's very simple! Really, your wits must have gone wool-gathering, my poor boy, if you are unable to do what I have shown you so many times. Watch closely now!" The chapter ends with an important idea: “I had learned how vain is advice dictated by the caprice of a master without a system!” You obviously believe there is some value in this work. Skepticism if fair and even desirable, but at the same time, you should understand that this a new method of education. No one is going to use the old, ineffective methods just to satisfy your preconceived notion of how you’ll learn.
@@ahLeftside28 They don't provide demonstrations because they are afraid to show their own inability to follow their own instructions. You can see videos of Masoero (and pictures of Alexander) where they are not in the posture they describe. It's all about getting people to take more and more lessons. People learn from imitation incredibly well. Like you said, most people don't have problems walking, sitting, or standing. All those questions he listed (can your relatives do this or that...) can all be done by anyone who follows a normal, active lifestyle. If you are having trouble learning from imitation, it's because the demonstration or instructions are incomplete. They hold back to get people to take more and more lessons. I've heard that even Masoero's students, who now teach the method, still come back for an absurd amount of lessons.
@@samclark5546 Man will that be heart breaking if true. Jeando seems like a nice dude but the way he teaches is straight bogus. I had 50 classes with him and I had enough of the b.s. And you are right. He told me some of his students have around 500 lessons. I don’t know why someone would need that many lessons if we’re trying to follow a format of the human body(in going forward not to let the body overtake the head, in going backwards not to let the head overtake the body). Thanks for commenting and hope nothing but best in your journey brother. 👍
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If we want a good jawline and a jaw that functions properly, we need to understand how the jaw works. In this video, we explore some ideas we can use to consciously control the movement and resting place of the mandible.
I offer lessons in the Initial Alexander Technique, which are conducted one-on-one with a teacher over Zoom. They are designed to help you gain conscious control over how you move your body. Most people have no idea what they’re doing with their body, and as they misuse their body, they end up with discomfort, pain, and other issues that they may not even realize are caused by what they’re doing to themselves. But how do you figure out what you’re doing wrong? And how do you change what you're doing and overcome lifelong habits?
In an Initial Alexander Technique lesson, you will record yourself through Zoom, so you will be able to see and understand what you are doing when you stand, sit, walk, and perform other simple gestures. With the assistance of your teacher, you will come to understand how you are misusing the mechanisms of your body, and you will gain the ability to choose to use yourself in a more sensible way. You can learn how to use your body without pain. You can break free from long held habits. All you need is a system that works.
For more information or to book a lesson, please visit my website: mechanicsofpoise.com/
You can contact me at: DelsarteAlexanderMasoeroYou@protonmail.com
"There are very few men, for instance, who, when told to open the mouth, will not throw the head back with the idea, as it were, of lifting the upper jaw away from the lower. "
F.M. Alexander
Should the teeth be in contact while performing this posture?
How to breath? Please 🥺
hmm would you share ideas in ways we could strain our rib cage.
tense or contract ?
I'm not sure I understand the question.
Bro i respect your ideas but i think i didnt really know what we have to do in order to do that
how to move maxilla forward and up? 🥰
The next video in this series will touch on that a bit. But we’ve already looked at some things that will help you there. First you want to make sure you’re lengthening and widening your torso, because you need a solid base to support a reorientation of your head. Then you can look at the procedure to move the corner of the eye and upper lip spot forward. Add in the direction to lift the mandibular angle faster than the chin. Remember to come back to what's happening in your torso, do not let your lower sternum go forward. This will move your entire head, including your maxilla, forward and up.
A large part of why someone will have their maxilla back and down is because their entire head is pulled back and in a faulty orientation. That messes with all the fascia that support the head and the palate. If you want your bones to be in the right spot you need to get your fascia taut.
Should I mew while practicing the posture (I have an underbite btw)
so when we eat we don't actually need to move upper skul at alll? just lower jaw moves with rest face resting?
Yes, lifting the upper jaw in practice means tipping the head back and down.
What are you and Jeando afraid of? Especially Jeando…. Just show some examples of you guys doing some daily activities and rehearse these orders you guys are trying to teach.
Less talking more actions
What is your motivation for wanting to have a video to imitate? Teaching through imitation is very common, most of us learned to sit, walk, and do many other activities through imitation. How did that work? Most of us, myself included, ended up needing a teacher to teach us seemingly basic things like standing on two feet, siting in a chair, and walking. We really don’t learn well by imitating.
So what you’re essentially asking me is, “why don’t I use an ineffective method of teaching?” That hardly needs an answer.
Really think about how you would use a video demonstration. Let’s say you’re going to sit down, and you want to sit in the best possible way that you know how. What will you do? Will you try to think back to a video you saw of someone else sitting? Will you try and make the movements that feel like they should produce the image that you saw? Do you think that would be more or less effective than using the directions that you’ve learned?
Really what’s more interesting than seeing someone else do an act is observing how you yourself do the act. Then you can see if you’re actually doing what you intended to do. By seeing how you go wrong, you can witness your misconceptions and correct them. In time, you will gain the skill to do what you intend to do, and then you will produce the video you’ve asked for all by yourself. But then you won’t need it, because a demonstration to imitate will be irrelevant at that point. In your day to day life, you won’t think back to a video you saw, you will think to your directions and how you know how implement them.
I find that people who diligently use visual feedback by recording themselves end up not having a desire for a demonstration to imitate. Seeing someone else seems superfluous when you can just examine what you are doing in reality.
F.M. Alexander also warns that the biggest stumbling block for a student is their desire to hold on to preconceived notions. Perhaps you think you will learn best by imitation. But if you’re looking for a teacher to help you with your posture, and they tell you that imitation is a bad way to learn, don’t you think there might be a reason for that? What makes you certain that your preconceived idea of how you should learn is actually effective? Was it effective in the past? Or did it bring you to the point that you needed the help of someone else?
But maybe I misunderstand your motivation for wanting a video example, so feel free to explain further.
@@delsartealexandermasoeroyo9147
Most of us don’t have problems in the way we sit, stand and move. If it was the case then Jeandos videos would be a hit and not just 200 average viewers per video. I know from my experience that my parents, uncles, brother - relatives don’t have the issue that “most of us” apparently have.
If one is having classes on how to replicate movements, or postural perturbations then shouldn’t one have a teacher show how to do those movements first? What’s the need for all that hassle with verbal orders from another teacher to begin with?
If the orders are complete alien to one then wouldn’t it be a waste of time(especially if you’re paying by the minute) to go through all of that when it couldn’t be shown before hand?
It seems like a gimmick tbh to keep the student coming back for more lessons. For example, rotating the superior knees outward and internal knees inward… one can go through the whole class(50 minutes) trying to complete this order properly when it could’ve been shown by what exactly it is and isn’t by the gifted initial Alexander teacher beforehand and then replicated which would leave more room for more learning in that limited timeframe. Wouldn’t that be most rational?
Is one trying to help the student or keep them coming back for more lesson.. it really does make you think
@@ahLeftside28 Can your relatives sit autonomously in a chair for five minutes? If you observe them without them knowing, would they? Or would they be slumped or strained? Can they make a speech without audibly sucking air in? Can they bend down without complaining? Can they go into and out of a squat without rounding their back?
Just because someone doesn’t complain of pain doesn’t mean they’re sitting or standing properly. People are extremely resilient. You can find an old person who has their head practically sitting on their chest and hunchback and there’s a fair chance they’ll say they feel fine. That doesn’t mean they have good posture. But I bet if you actually asked your relatives, a good chunk would tell you they have back pain or foot pain. I’ve met a wide variety of people in various jobs over the course of my life, and I’ve never been anywhere where people didn’t complain about pain.
How many people over forty do you know? It’s shocking how many people need hip replacements, knee surgery, treatments for their frozen shoulder, etc. Anyone who spends any amount of time observing people will know that essentially everyone in modern civilization has issues standing, sitting, bending, and walking. If you simply mention posture to most people, they will tell you they have terrible posture.
You seem to genuinely believe that you will learn best by impersonating an example. I’m not sure why. Think about how this actually works. Let’s say you’re given a visual demonstration. You then make the movements that you feel will replicate what the other person has done. But how will you know if you succeeded? Because I guarantee in most cases you would fail to replicate what was shown to you.
The only way to know would be to video record yourself and see. But at that point, you’re doing what I’ve already recommended to you and not using the demonstration.
It’s really puzzling, because it seems that you think Masoero is holding back by not showing you a demonstration, you imagine he’s trying to make you dependent on him for more lessons. But the opposite is true. He’s giving you specific directions so that you can use those directions when you have no teacher around to observe you. The directions are the map forward, they are what you can use in your actual life. Whereas your fuzzy memory of something you saw is of practically no use when you’re actually in action.
You say that if you were just given a demonstration that you could replicate it and that would leave more time for learning. There are two problems here. First, you couldn’t replicate it. You might imagine you can, but the video recording would show that you haven’t. Second, the learning that you need to be doing is learning to apply a set of directions. That is repeatable. That is something that you can actively, practically use.
Trying to orchestrate movements you’re not familiar with is inherently frustrating. We would all like to make progress more quickly. But succeeding by following directions that you give yourself is something you can repeat any time. Impersonating a demonstration someone has shown you is unlikely to even work, but it certainly won’t be repeatable.
You might like reading the first chapter of Delsarte’s memoir. If you search for “Delsarte’s Own Words” you should find free to read on the internet archive. He tells the story of how he got fed up with how his teachers were teaching him. Here’s a brief excerpt beginning with his teacher instructing him:
“See here; watch my movements carefully!"
"I do watch, but I don't know how to go to work to imitate you; I don't seize the details of your gesture." (It varied with every repetition.) " I don't understand why your examples, with which I am satisfied, lead to nothing in me."
"You don't understand! You don't understand! It's very simple! Really, your wits must have gone wool-gathering, my poor boy, if you are unable to do what I have shown you so many times. Watch closely now!"
The chapter ends with an important idea: “I had learned how vain is advice dictated by the caprice of a master without a system!”
You obviously believe there is some value in this work. Skepticism if fair and even desirable, but at the same time, you should understand that this a new method of education. No one is going to use the old, ineffective methods just to satisfy your preconceived notion of how you’ll learn.
@@ahLeftside28 They don't provide demonstrations because they are afraid to show their own inability to follow their own instructions. You can see videos of Masoero (and pictures of Alexander) where they are not in the posture they describe. It's all about getting people to take more and more lessons.
People learn from imitation incredibly well. Like you said, most people don't have problems walking, sitting, or standing. All those questions he listed (can your relatives do this or that...) can all be done by anyone who follows a normal, active lifestyle.
If you are having trouble learning from imitation, it's because the demonstration or instructions are incomplete. They hold back to get people to take more and more lessons. I've heard that even Masoero's students, who now teach the method, still come back for an absurd amount of lessons.
@@samclark5546
Man will that be heart breaking if true. Jeando seems like a nice dude but the way he teaches is straight bogus. I had 50 classes with him and I had enough of the b.s.
And you are right. He told me some of his students have around 500 lessons. I don’t know why someone would need that many lessons if we’re trying to follow a format of the human body(in going forward not to let the body overtake the head, in going backwards not to let the head overtake the body).
Thanks for commenting and hope nothing but best in your journey brother. 👍