5:45 "Show me the power child I'd like to say That I'm down on my knees today" 😋 I'm really trying to choose between this and the Jim Root one. This was a really great overview, very helpful 👍
@@MrSonofagun45 you would probably need to buy a speaker cab in some capacity for this amp head, it's pretty small so I doubt it has a built in speaker.
Thanks a lot. Great demo. Pleased to see comments are really listened . I didn't except you make again a demo so quickly about this awesome amp. The only one you can change your sound while playing... I like the fact it still makes you smile even after several years or owning. I also prefer the 7 watt mode for recording more clearly.
I really liked this amp. For me there were 2 problems: a) it gets a bit to mushy when turned up over 50% and b) you don't really get a clean sound and even if you can dial one in it will be with a lot of master volume and almost no gain (bottom end) so it whould need another pedal (minus boost) or very good volume pot fiddling on a guitar with single coils to get an cleanish sound :/
How did I miss this video? What a great review.. I've been thinking of one of these because I love Orange amps distortion! Killer stuff.. Love this channel sir. Hope all is well my friend. On my first cup of strong good coffee!
its like a kind of semi-fake version of this.its sort of like a modeled version of a real amp.it can sound o.k but is nowere the level of a all tube power and preamp amplifier
I have a Mesa rectoverb 25 but it’s missing the mid range that the pink taco gave when I demo’d it. All the channels you need. The pt had way more of a simple to reach sound that I loved. But no clean channel which means A/B with a fender or something. Expensive home set up
Do you had the chance to use/compare it with an OR15? More than diferent Eq section, the amp structure/schematic is the same. Do you, as I've read many times, that this little beast could sound "big" on 2x12 or bigger cabs?
Is it possible to get similiar results with SM58 in your opinion? (I need dynamic mic for both vocal and guitar, that's why I prefer SM58 over the 57). I own Dual Terror paired with DIY guitar cabinet with Classic Lead 80 1x12. Thanks for your feedback! Regards!:)
I have the Orange Micro Terror and it sounds great but it has a problem, where the tube keeps vibrating out of the socket. I have to keep the lid off so I can push the tube back in if it cuts out. Does the Dark Terror have this problem?
EXCELLENT VIDEO. I subscribed. I have the dark mini. Ug it into the clean channel of the Amp of your choice, compression, reverb, little delay, maybe some chorus POW!! 😀
I was compelled to buy one of these. I can't stop listening to this video in anticipation of the amp's arrival! Such amazing tone, and I just love the simplicity. Unrelated, but wouldn't it be cool if Marshall did a mini JCM 800? And if they made it in the UK.
Marshall did make a smaller version of the JCM 800 called the JCM 600. It's a great amp but not the most reliable as they forget that heat rises and put a metal plate on top of the valves (I kid u not).
@@LeonTodd So in the end I sold the DT....... but only because I caved and bought a Marshall 2525! If you ever find one cheap, pick it up, they are awesome!
Hey Leon, love your vids! Bought my ax8 because of your demos! I was wondering how well the ax8 will work with the dark terror as the power amp? Been seeing photos online of bands having that set up. More power!
How to dial in a 3 knob amp... hmmm, lol. A little different than the V:25 yes? I sadly sold my Brent Hinds and miss it, just found that Natural Channel too annoying. Your dirt half way through sounds awesome. I think I should try this out. I loved the super tight character of the Hinds.
Just got mine today with an Orange PPC112 cab and holy shit. I was set on a 5150 but for the price of a dark terror+PPC112 it was essentially the same as just a 5150 iconic. Super stoked on the tone.
@@LeonTodd I hope you don’t mind me asking but I’ve always ran an overdrive > distortion > fuzz chain in front of my previous amps (combo amps). I’m new to gain stacking especially into a high gain amp like the dark terror. Do you have any tips as far as volume/gain levels of the pedals and amp? I find it’s a fine line of completely destroying the tone but can’t figure out if it’s better to have high volume low gain on the pedal or high gain on the amp etc. thanks!
@@Chiefthepup I have a Dark Terror and PPC 212 cab and I always use the gain at the head with the pedal ( t/s) to add 'colour'...works for me but I guess it depends on what you're using and the sound you're wanting
@@ollieolsen4309 funny enough it actually took a shit on me 2 weeks after receiving it 😅😂. Probably user error, I’m still new to heads/cabs but went to flip it on and nothing. Fuses looked fine so guitar center is sending me the replacement as we speak
Curious about something. How would you compare an Orange Dark Terror with only 3 knobs againts a Carvin V3 with its massive selection of different knob selection? Do you prefer one over the other?
Leon Todd, if I get a Dark Terror and buy a speaker cab with one 10" Creamback will it sound good for Metal? I need one 10 because I don't want to carry a lot of weight.
@@glenh2752 I see. That helps. Just one more question. Will it sound pretty much what I want if I get a PPC112, meaning One 12 inch Orange speaker cab? I don't want to much weight to carry around.
seems like your really into the classic rock sounds. (based on your body language when you play) what would you buy for a classic rock rig if money was not an issue. Guitar, and amp only. and not because someone else played it, just by what you love to come out of your fingertips.
SWEET ASS STR!! I have the Orange Micro Terror it's a Awesome little amp, don't know what it is but I love these Small-Micro size amps everything from a 1watt to 20watt. Don't know if you've tried one of those Hotone Nano amps but they are great especially for what they cost. Thinking about getting one of those Mojotone Studio 1 watt kits, has anyone built or tried one of them ?
I don't know how it works (Orange voodoo magic anyone?) but it transforms the gain structure to be super tight--dialing the pedal volume back takes the gain more towards the original sound but for thrash metal like I play, the volume should stay all the way up.
My amp settings are volume all the way up, shape somewhere in that sweet spot you mentioned, and gain at 2 oclock (i have an attenuator so I don't kill my ears, it can get the amp down to speaking level)
How does it handle small gigs? Because I love the Orange gain structure, and I LOVE boosting with things like a Horizon. I can only imagine how sick it sounds!
Mine used to sound great, but the last couple months the gain tones just sound incredibly fizzy to me. Not sure what happened. Changed all tubes many times. It was always a little fizzy as you can hear in this video, but now it just sounds like someone yelling from behind a piece of notebook paper... almost too crunchy if that makes sense.
Did you use any pedals? I got my Dark Terror today and it is soooo fuzzy when i turn up the gain... i know that fuzzy tone is normal in orange amps but the fuzzy tone i have sound like shit to be honest. sounds like it is plugged in in a really cheap small cab...
@@andreas-xd7pb I orderd it just a few days ago and it was new, and as i turned it on i followed the users manual and waited 4 min to make sure the tubes are warmed up and then i changed from standby to normal mode and started playing. In Clean it sounded great but with more gain it became so extreme fuzzy as i mentioned before.
@petkopeet They share the same gain stages, so they’re very similar. The TH30 is slightly thicker, doesn’t get muddy as quick, and has a LOUD clean channel. For the price, I’d recommend the DT. Not enough of a tonal difference to constitute the cost, IMO.
Love orange amps!.... Thanks for doing this review man, it deserves recognition as it definitely rocks hard specially thru a 2 x12 orange cab!...hey just want to say I love your band brother you guys sound awesome!...forgive me for just descovering you guys, but the song rewind your mind kiscks some seriuos ass brother!....what other ones are riff heavy like that one?....cheers bro
Yeah I love what these amps do, plus they're great layered with a Marshall or a Mesa for huge tones. Stoked you dig the tunes! For riff heavy stuff basically anything off our "Back to Zero" album will keep you happy :)
It is a high gain amp, dude. So...maybe focus on high gain? Also, for everyone commenting on the TV in the background, and all of the other electronics on in the back, every professional recording studio loves having many, many electronic devices on in the background all going at once. It really, really adds to your sound :)
I think this may be one of the best sounding demos I've ever heard... !!!
Much appreciated mate!
This is by far, the best metal amp out there! And really easy to use.
Really nice video. I love my Dark Terror. There are still times where I will hit a chord and just be in awe at the tone coming out of this thing.
Anything that inspires the stank face is a keeper
4:12 is what I'm talking about! Love that orange tone!!
5:45 "Show me the power child
I'd like to say
That I'm down on my knees today" 😋
I'm really trying to choose between this and the Jim Root one. This was a really great overview, very helpful 👍
Apparently the Jim Root has a real clean sounds as well and this one doesn’t really.
And now you know who gets mystified.
Dragon ball z on the monitor behind... hahahha awesome
Leon's a LEGEND!! 😂😂
I think 1 o'clock is the sweet spot for the tone knob, you did such a good demo that I now want one 👍
Ordered mine today with the PPC 112 cab, can't wait \m/
Wish I could fund a PPC112. Might have to eat dicks and grab the 212
Do you need a cabinet or does it have a speaker?
@@MrSonofagun45 you would probably need to buy a speaker cab in some capacity for this amp head, it's pretty small so I doubt it has a built in speaker.
More of this please. Thank you!
Goku v. Vageta, best fight in the series. Amp sounds incredible too. Subscribed!
So good!!
We should all put a DBZ sticker on our dark terrors now.
A plethora of tones to Be minted by you and that sweet equipment!Thanks Brother, Be Well!
I own a Tiny Terror, and had no idea the Dark could sound THIS gnarly! It sounds fantastic. Definitely want one to complete the Terror collection.
A TT and DT in stereo would be insane!
I love orange amps sound. This amp is really good.
Thanks a lot. Great demo. Pleased to see comments are really listened . I didn't except you make again a demo so quickly about this awesome amp. The only one you can change your sound while playing... I like the fact it still makes you smile even after several years or owning. I also prefer the 7 watt mode for recording more clearly.
If gear doesn't make me smile I don't keep it :)
Yeah Love this little amp, and it loved a Les Paul with 496R/500T Ceramic Humbuckers, they complimented each other well.
Hard to go wrong with it!
I really liked this amp. For me there were 2 problems: a) it gets a bit to mushy when turned up over 50% and b) you don't really get a clean sound and even if you can dial one in it will be with a lot of master volume and almost no gain (bottom end) so it whould need another pedal (minus boost) or very good volume pot fiddling on a guitar with single coils to get an cleanish sound :/
Yeah it's more a set and forget rock/metal amp.
I used it with emg actives and cleans were soooo fat. I just love it.
Try the Jim Root #4 Terror instead. I can vouch for all it does including its full bodied cleans
How did I miss this video? What a great review.. I've been thinking of one of these because I love Orange amps distortion! Killer stuff..
Love this channel sir.
Hope all is well my friend. On my first cup of strong good coffee!
It could be cool to compare it to the Bret Hinds terror and the PRS MT15
Man.. I can sit and listen to you playing forever! Love it :)
Galicjusz thanks so much. I'll have to upload more vids just jamming out.
I ordered the mini the other day and I'm stocked waiting for it! It sounded really Zakk Wyldish in your demo!
Simple and amazing sounds
I just bought the Orange Micro Dark which sounds great. But, this sounds awesome!
Sweet amp!
Sweet amp!
Leon, if it's possible I'd love to hear your take on the Micro dark terror, since you have spent a lot of time with the DT.
Micro Dark OR Micro Terror...two different amps...I have and love the Dark...when I rest my Laney TI 120, it'll work on my 4x12.😎
illiniheel67 Same here. I have the micro dark with a Laney 1x12, and a Tiny Terror combo.
its like a kind of semi-fake version of this.its sort of like a modeled version of a real amp.it can sound o.k but is nowere the level of a all tube power and preamp amplifier
I owned a micro dark terror before I bought my Dark Terror. The Dark Terror is everything missing in the Micro. Less mud for sure.
Best demo for this amp !! Thank you
Would you recommend using it live with a 4x12
I gigged it with a 4x12 and it was awesome
Wait, IS THAT DBZ ABRIDGED IN THE BACKGROUND???
Well spotted!
@@LeonTodd I saw Goku getting squeezed one too many times and I realized something was off.
I had both dt15 and jim root terror. I much prefered the dt15 tone, but hell, jr#4 was super loud, way louder than dt15. I wonder why.
Yep great demo I’m buying one can’t wait to hear it on a full stack
I have a Mesa rectoverb 25 but it’s missing the mid range that the pink taco gave when I demo’d it. All the channels you need. The pt had way more of a simple to reach sound that I loved. But no clean channel which means A/B with a fender or something. Expensive home set up
Does anyone know if you can hook up an eq pedal to the fx loop, if you want broader tone options.
Take your orange fx return into the output of the eq pedal and fx send into the input of the eq pedal
I really like this amp.
Just checked out your band, great stuff man. Keep it up!
Thanks so much, that really means a lot :)
LOVE this amp, killer demo, and that guitar!!!
Any link to the guitar too??!
Should I get one
Nice video Leon. Which is better the micro or dark? I’m looking at getting one. Also what cab is affordable. ? Are you going through a cab here?
Do you had the chance to use/compare it with an OR15? More than diferent Eq section, the amp structure/schematic is the same.
Do you, as I've read many times, that this little beast could sound "big" on 2x12 or bigger cabs?
Wow, you know how to mic the amp! It sounds great, both your playing and the amp, good job man
Ribbon mics make make life easy ;)
Is it possible to get similiar results with SM58 in your opinion? (I need dynamic mic for both vocal and guitar, that's why I prefer SM58 over the 57). I own Dual Terror paired with DIY guitar cabinet with Classic Lead 80 1x12. Thanks for your feedback! Regards!:)
Which ribbon mic are you using?
I have the Orange Micro Terror and it sounds great but it has a problem, where the tube keeps vibrating out of the socket. I have to keep the lid off so I can push the tube back in if it cuts out. Does the Dark Terror have this problem?
Oyooooo this demo is on point!
Live this amp. Cab you do another vid with done pedals?
that sounds amazing!
Do you give lessons remotely?
Yes. Flick me an email leontod@gmail.com
EXCELLENT VIDEO. I subscribed. I have the dark mini. Ug it into the clean channel of the Amp of your choice, compression, reverb, little delay, maybe some chorus POW!! 😀
I need this amp!
i'd love to hear what you do with this rig :)
Nice tones and great video. What is the neck pickup on your guitar?
Wow sounds good. Is there a version of this amp head that has a clean channel?
The Dual terror has 2 channels IIRC, and then there's the Dual Dark which is the bigger brother of this amp.
Awesome. Does it have output or line/out? I have a focusrite interface that I use for recording demos.
No, you'd need a load box to do that (like i did in this video).
TH30 is pretty much a louder version of the dark terror with a clean channel.
Hey Leon love the channel dude. How does this compare to the OR15? Do you think the OR15 can do hard rock and metal? Cheers from Chicago.
+1 for the sayian saga
Hard to beat, so epic and brutal.
Here's hoping for an ax8 model for the DT. When I had one I put a 5751 in the v1 slot. Really evens out the gain taper. Awesome as always.
Travis Griffin I'd be all over that, I love this little amp
great playing!
I was compelled to buy one of these. I can't stop listening to this video in anticipation of the amp's arrival! Such amazing tone, and I just love the simplicity.
Unrelated, but wouldn't it be cool if Marshall did a mini JCM 800? And if they made it in the UK.
Ever seen the ceriatone 2202?
I hadn't before, but it sounds pretty righteous! Thanks for the heads up :) I'm always interested in sounding like I'm in the Scorpions.
Marshall did make a smaller version of the JCM 800 called the JCM 600. It's a great amp but not the most reliable as they forget that heat rises and put a metal plate on top of the valves (I kid u not).
the gain on 1 o'clock sounded great for me
Dude, I was on the verge of selling this amp but this video really inspired me to give it another chance. Thank you!
That means a lot, cheers!
@@LeonTodd So in the end I sold the DT....... but only because I caved and bought a Marshall 2525! If you ever find one cheap, pick it up, they are awesome!
@@alexk5325 I have Marshall 2525 and I was thinking for Dark terror.. I think its more versatile ... what are your thoughts?
Holy shit that amp sound killer I need one now, great video man!
If you like this, check out the Micro Dark!
obsessed
Great video. Very efficient.
Got one I luv it
Hey Leon, love your vids! Bought my ax8 because of your demos! I was wondering how well the ax8 will work with the dark terror as the power amp? Been seeing photos online of bands having that set up. More power!
kuringmundo it does the job well, although I personally prefer the Matrix stuff so I can leave AX8 power amp modelling on.
Wich lunchbox amp is the most oraganic rock/metal amp for you,as a little gig amp?Thanks
How to dial in a 3 knob amp... hmmm, lol. A little different than the V:25 yes? I sadly sold my Brent Hinds and miss it, just found that Natural Channel too annoying. Your dirt half way through sounds awesome. I think I should try this out. I loved the super tight character of the Hinds.
Hey, what cab was it recorded on though?
Is this amp loud enough to gig with? (Obviously won't be gigging anytime soon due to covid but still) Good demo btw
I ran it through a 4x12 for a few gigs and it was awesome!
Just got mine today with an Orange PPC112 cab and holy shit. I was set on a 5150 but for the price of a dark terror+PPC112 it was essentially the same as just a 5150 iconic. Super stoked on the tone.
Wicked little heads hey
@@LeonTodd I hope you don’t mind me asking but I’ve always ran an overdrive > distortion > fuzz chain in front of my previous amps (combo amps). I’m new to gain stacking especially into a high gain amp like the dark terror. Do you have any tips as far as volume/gain levels of the pedals and amp? I find it’s a fine line of completely destroying the tone but can’t figure out if it’s better to have high volume low gain on the pedal or high gain on the amp etc. thanks!
@@Chiefthepup I have a Dark Terror and PPC 212 cab and I always use the gain at the head with the pedal ( t/s) to add 'colour'...works for me but I guess it depends on what you're using and the sound you're wanting
@@ollieolsen4309 funny enough it actually took a shit on me 2 weeks after receiving it 😅😂. Probably user error, I’m still new to heads/cabs but went to flip it on and nothing. Fuses looked fine so guitar center is sending me the replacement as we speak
...dark Terror or Jet city jca50h? Please help me ☺️
How you record? What cab you used? Mics? Pres??? Thanks
Curious about something. How would you compare an Orange Dark Terror with only 3 knobs againts a Carvin V3 with its massive selection of different knob selection? Do you prefer one over the other?
Different animals but all I will say is I did waaaaay more gigs with the DT than the V3.
@@LeonTodd Thanks for the reply. I guess that speaks for itself!
Sick playing. Im stealling some riffs 😂. I got the same rig
For those who actually want their lead tones to be heard with this amp, turn the shape knob all the way to the left, and thank me later!
Hi!
Nice video and nice amp!
Can you review the Peavey 6505Mh?
Cheers from Portugal 🍺🤘
Great review!! Greetings from Chile
Running this through a 412 is it loud enough to gig with in a 3 piece punk band without micing?
I'm playing an OR15 and I would say yes
Leon Todd, if I get a Dark Terror and buy a speaker cab with one 10" Creamback will it sound good for Metal? I need one 10 because I don't want to carry a lot of weight.
@@glenh2752 Thank you Glen, I'll have a look at it.
@@glenh2752 I'm rethinking this I wonder if the 10 inch will sound like this at 1:21 to130 ruclips.net/video/T_94HLB42h4/видео.html
@@glenh2752 I see. That helps. Just one more question. Will it sound pretty much what I want if I get a PPC112, meaning One 12 inch Orange speaker cab? I don't want to much weight to carry around.
@@glenh2752 Thanks Glen H, that helps me with my decision.
Hello,this one , the Bret Hinds or the PRS MT15 to go for Jerry Cantrell sound ?Thanks
You can probably get there with any of them. Speaker cab and guitar choice will be a big factor.
@@LeonTodd i play a PRS Tremonti and a Peavey 4x12 5150 cab .i was planning to buy a PPC 412
seems like your really into the classic rock sounds. (based on your body language when you play) what would you buy for a classic rock rig if money was not an issue. Guitar, and amp only. and not because someone else played it, just by what you love to come out of your fingertips.
I have this but, i want the rockerverb 50, but the price...i dont now was a good idea
I would love a soldano hot rod 25 in combo form
Very cool video!
im Loving
SWEET ASS STR!! I have the Orange Micro Terror it's a Awesome little amp, don't know what it is but I love these Small-Micro size amps everything from a 1watt to 20watt. Don't know if you've tried one of those Hotone Nano amps but they are great especially for what they cost. Thinking about getting one of those Mojotone Studio 1 watt kits, has anyone built or tried one of them ?
This goes really really really well with a horizon precision drive
10/10 would reccomend
Now there's a combo I wouldn't have thought of.
I don't know how it works (Orange voodoo magic anyone?) but it transforms the gain structure to be super tight--dialing the pedal volume back takes the gain more towards the original sound but for thrash metal like I play, the volume should stay all the way up.
My amp settings are volume all the way up, shape somewhere in that sweet spot you mentioned, and gain at 2 oclock (i have an attenuator so I don't kill my ears, it can get the amp down to speaking level)
How does it handle small gigs? Because I love the Orange gain structure, and I LOVE boosting with things like a Horizon. I can only imagine how sick it sounds!
it sounds killer! go for it
Mine used to sound great, but the last couple months the gain tones just sound incredibly fizzy to me. Not sure what happened. Changed all tubes many times. It was always a little fizzy as you can hear in this video, but now it just sounds like someone yelling from behind a piece of notebook paper... almost too crunchy if that makes sense.
Tried it with different cabs?
@@LeonTodd yessir. I am thinking a filter cap or something went out of spec. That is the one thing i hate about tube amps.
Did you use any pedals? I got my Dark Terror today and it is soooo fuzzy when i turn up the gain... i know that fuzzy tone is normal in orange amps but the fuzzy tone i have sound like shit to be honest. sounds like it is plugged in in a really cheap small cab...
What cab are you using?
@@andreas-xd7pb Orange CR PRO412, sounded normal and better with other amps
@@hochi98 Have you tried changing the tubes?
@@andreas-xd7pb I orderd it just a few days ago and it was new, and as i turned it on i followed the users manual and waited 4 min to make sure the tubes are warmed up and then i changed from standby to normal mode and started playing. In Clean it sounded great but with more gain it became so extreme fuzzy as i mentioned before.
@@hochi98 It might be to do with the tubes, you could maybe take it in to a tech near you.
What speaker are you using ?
can you compare it to a joyo meteor
Did You ever have a chance to compare it to TH30? I am torn between those two :/
@petkopeet They share the same gain stages, so they’re very similar. The TH30 is slightly thicker, doesn’t get muddy as quick, and has a LOUD clean channel. For the price, I’d recommend the DT. Not enough of a tonal difference to constitute the cost, IMO.
unfair game but a comparison with the Molecular would be much appreciated!
Thoughts on this versus the Tiny Terror? Been thinking of trying one or the other...
DT has more gain and saturation plus an fx loop which is really handy. TT is a rock machine though.
Thanks for the reply! I was impressed at the cleans I've heard on some TT's so I was curious. Great channel by the way, really enjoying your work!
Thanks so much! Hard to go wrong with either model, it's just a case of what you do and don't need from them
How did you find the Jim Root #4 Terror to the Dark Terror? I remember you did a vid of that previously. Love the vids Leon!
FlyByWire the #4 eq made it a bit more flexible and it had a little more headroom from memory. Would love to try the Brent Hinds Terror next.
Love orange amps!.... Thanks for doing this review man, it deserves recognition as it definitely rocks hard specially thru a 2 x12 orange cab!...hey just want to say I love your band brother you guys sound awesome!...forgive me for just descovering you guys, but the song rewind your mind kiscks some seriuos ass brother!....what other ones are riff heavy like that one?....cheers bro
Yeah I love what these amps do, plus they're great layered with a Marshall or a Mesa for huge tones.
Stoked you dig the tunes! For riff heavy stuff basically anything off our "Back to Zero" album will keep you happy :)
I saw that cheeky little Ty Tabor chord you threw in there...
You know me well!
Leon Todd can’t beat a little kings X mate
Would you mind for providing your followers using AX8 with presets at a reasonable price?
All my presets are available on Axechange, for free.
Could you use the fx loop to run this as a preamp into say a Marshall DSL100H head?
Yes, but you'd still need to make sure you're providing a load to the output section of this amp.
Leon Todd yes I know that, lol I was thinking this was the Micro Dark
Is that the chinese version?
Orange you glad you got one of these? Also dbz in the background rules!!!!
10/10 pun :p
Oh man, DBZ was life for me in high school. That theme song was great too.
It is a high gain amp, dude. So...maybe focus on high gain? Also, for everyone commenting on the TV in the background, and all of the other electronics on in the back, every professional recording studio loves having many, many electronic devices on in the background all going at once. It really, really adds to your sound :)
Hi, Does dark terror more headroom than tiny terror?
I saw a side by side video and the dark seems to be louder and have more head room.
I played the micro dark terror that thing had so much balls for only one tube
I kept thinking “this awesome, but where the headroom. It’ll be perfect if there’s mores headroom.” Then he flicked to 15 watts... “that’ll do!”
what is the trick?