London 1983 on KODAK Super 8

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  • Опубликовано: 4 сен 2020
  • London 1983: Thames, Houses of Parliament, Westminster Abbey, Churchill... Buckingham Palace, Soho, Carnaby Street, Leicester Square, Oxford Street, Hyde Park, Wimbledon, Abbey Road, Battersea Power Station... lots of tourist attractions. Shot on Kodak Super 8 film, using Sankyo XL- 60S Super 8 Sound Film Camera. Edited manually, of course, back those days all was so tangible, and digitalization had just started - first home computers were released, but we had to wait quite long until filming was digital.
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  • @davidmoore2308
    @davidmoore2308 26 дней назад +14

    I remember 1982 my brother and i going up to london just us 2 alone i was 12 he was 14 we bought red bus rovers and traveled on the bus from ilford to Central london visiting museums and other attractions we had a great day

  • @missmuffet3874
    @missmuffet3874 3 дня назад +4

    Proper London. Back in the days we loved to visit.

  • @hugodrax71
    @hugodrax71 5 месяцев назад +55

    There are many occasions when I think we were much better off without the internet and smartphones.

    • @jaybee2402
      @jaybee2402 8 дней назад +1

      Feel free to go offline. We'd be better off.

    • @hugodrax71
      @hugodrax71 7 дней назад +7

      @@jaybee2402 And you've just illustrated one of the problems of the internet. Thank you!

    • @edwardoleyba3075
      @edwardoleyba3075 7 дней назад +4

      @@hugodrax71. I agree with you to an extent. The internet was a good advancement but, unfortunately too many chancers ruined it trying to make a quick buck, (particularly with younger people). It saddens me to see them glued to their smartphones playing inane mind numbing games. Absolutely rudderless, and not connected with reality 😞

    • @oddities-whatnot
      @oddities-whatnot 7 дней назад +7

      @@jaybee2402you simply prove their point with your negative comment, well done 👋🏻 give yourself a pat on the back.

    • @oddities-whatnot
      @oddities-whatnot 7 дней назад +3

      @@edwardoleyba3075A lot of young people don’t want to work, they want to be social media stars. Not a good sign for the future of this world.

  • @anncosten3222
    @anncosten3222 10 дней назад +10

    I remember this london. Left school started work, lot of firsts. Good times.

    • @Isleofskye
      @Isleofskye 7 дней назад +2

      Ironically, only yesterday after we all left school and started work, we met each other for the first time in 53 years at our School's Memorial Service, so we bypassed each other's whole working life and now everyone has retired. lol

    • @user-dq5fs8fm5v
      @user-dq5fs8fm5v 4 дня назад +4

      Same here, I started working in London a year earlier. It was great then... Clean, friendly and safe.

  • @mypointofview1111
    @mypointofview1111 5 месяцев назад +20

    Love this. It shows Carnaby Street as it was when it really was a destination. Now its all sanitised chain shops with zero atmosphere.

  • @ECWAlex
    @ECWAlex 5 месяцев назад +38

    This is the London I knew and loved I hardly recognise the place anymore.

    • @Priapus212
      @Priapus212 10 дней назад +6

      Because you're old. Get over it

    • @ECWAlex
      @ECWAlex 10 дней назад +2

      @@Priapus212😂

    • @filthyclown8033
      @filthyclown8033 10 дней назад

      Knees up mother brown, how’s yer father, have a banana

    • @mrmillslee
      @mrmillslee 8 дней назад +1

      @@Priapus212 we will when you ✈️ out

  • @stevenoneill7166
    @stevenoneill7166 6 месяцев назад +27

    This appears to have been filmed in July/August. I remember Octopussy & Return Of The Jedi being the big summer movies in 1983, along with Wham's "Fantastic" & The Police's "Syncronicity" albums being released around the same time.
    It's also wonderful to see how well-dressed women & men were back then

  • @alexpiva9672
    @alexpiva9672 7 месяцев назад +36

    Sweet memories of a London that's long gone (well, actually a World that's long gone...). Great video, thanks.

  • @naim7466
    @naim7466 4 дня назад +2

    Memorable yesteryear London, remember it all,we bought 1st VCR from T Ct road the mecca of Tv,hifi,video shops,the year before in 82.

  • @digeme69
    @digeme69 3 месяца назад +12

    Great to see how London was back then, the Thames is very different now surrounded by so called luxury flats. Would love a time machine to return to that era.

  • @SunShine-dk6rk
    @SunShine-dk6rk Год назад +14

    I typed in 1983 for some nostalgia,wanting to see London how it was whilst i was young,it was a different world,seemed more stable in UK than now with all thats going on in the world,that year i was driving a Vauxhall Viva,even went to see Siouxie and the Banshee's at the Royal Albert hall on a Friday ,she played 2 nights there and it was made into a live album called Nocturne made up of recordings chosen from the 2 nights,later i saw she wore different attire each night,thanks to watching it on film i worked out which songs id seen but that was nearly 4 decades later,
    Thank you for a great upload that took me down memory lane,wishing the uploader,friends,family and fellow viewers health,happiness.

    • @craigmullen9046
      @craigmullen9046 6 месяцев назад +3

      It was more homogeneous!!!

    • @Adi-is-Adi.
      @Adi-is-Adi. 3 дня назад

      1983 My favourite year, I never saw the banshees I love them. I would have loved to be there.

  • @martinsmith8572
    @martinsmith8572 6 месяцев назад +7

    Oh my blimey, I was 15 years old London born and bred.

  • @AFaceintheCrowd01
    @AFaceintheCrowd01 6 месяцев назад +68

    That’s what London looked like when it was the world’s greatest city. All the charm and character has now been methodically erased.

    • @jaspal201
      @jaspal201 5 месяцев назад

      That's gentrification and the global rich buying up London and stripping the soul for you.

    • @QuoPaperPlane
      @QuoPaperPlane 5 месяцев назад +8

      It was still a bit of a dump as I was living in London still at the time. Plenty of remnants from the 70s Labour run days. Nothing worked and Thatcher had quite tamed the bolshi unions. We haven't progressed at all actually. Regressed in many areas.

    • @Marvin-dg8vj
      @Marvin-dg8vj 11 дней назад

      It has been gentrified in large areas .
      Less crime, dirt and poverty but less character

    • @swaldron5558
      @swaldron5558 10 дней назад +4

      Blames Tony Blair!

    • @museonfilm8919
      @museonfilm8919 8 дней назад +2

      Many of the cool vinyl sellers and niknak shops all gone - even Camden seemed on the up (with prices anyway) when I last went it 2019.

  • @MijoShrek
    @MijoShrek 6 месяцев назад +14

    I've been searching all sorts of these videos and documentaries of England. I've had an admiration and desire to visit the country more than any other abroad since I was a child. As a Yankee I worry for the our Anglo cousins. They're contributions over just the last 100 years cannot be understated. A heritage that should be protected. The same thing is happening in all the western nations. This is not some happenstance. We've tolerated the nonsense long enough.

    • @mrmillslee
      @mrmillslee 8 дней назад

      All planned to destroy the west - they don’t even hide it

    • @paulmcdonough1093
      @paulmcdonough1093 8 дней назад

      where full dont come

    • @Isleofskye
      @Isleofskye 7 дней назад

      Thank You,My Friend. I returned to the heart of London over the last 2 days and it is very vibrant though the English are much harder to find away from the working areas.

    • @Dreyno
      @Dreyno 5 дней назад

      You’re not wanted in London with that sort of bollocks. Stay where you are.

    • @GT380man
      @GT380man 3 дня назад

      It’s intentional de-civilisation of The West, by the snakes that run the privately owned central banks. The Great Reset. Depopulation. Neo-feudalism. Slavery.

  • @jeffocks793
    @jeffocks793 6 месяцев назад +10

    Great film (once we get past shots of famous landmark buildings) - I loved London in 1983, great to see advert hoardings and people going about their business. London was negotiable and navigable in 1983 and a pleasant place to be - the atmosphere has completely changed in 2023.

    • @mrmillslee
      @mrmillslee 8 дней назад +3

      Mass unwanted immigration

    • @museonfilm8919
      @museonfilm8919 8 дней назад +3

      I agree, but I do remember the buses being disgusting - cigarette butts everywhere and rubbish all over the seats.
      London has been well cleaned, sanitised and gentrified since then!

  • @biroldjoshan3745
    @biroldjoshan3745 Месяц назад +5

    The GOOD old days

    • @speakertreatz
      @speakertreatz 10 дней назад

      with 300,000 people on your dole queue

    • @mrmillslee
      @mrmillslee 8 дней назад

      @@speakertreatzwhen it felt English / British culture. Not the third world ‘anybody can come’ immigration who are not professionals and don’t wish to integrate and contribute

  • @donnasmyth45
    @donnasmyth45 18 дней назад +4

    Brilliant footage and great camera work. Thankyou.

  • @hungbearlover
    @hungbearlover 5 месяцев назад +6

    When London wasn’t full of millions of tourists and London’s population had been in decline as people had be rehoused in the New Towns of places like Milton Keynes, Harlow and Crawley etc. I was in Finchley lad in 1983

  • @robharding5345
    @robharding5345 6 месяцев назад +12

    I miss the old place ! Not the new place.

  • @fellspoint9364
    @fellspoint9364 3 месяца назад +4

    I was a 19 year old Yank riding my Trek through England and France at the time , just digging life . Great times , beautiful people….. far less traffic !

    • @stuartwray6175
      @stuartwray6175 3 месяца назад +1

      Trek?

    • @fellspoint9364
      @fellspoint9364 3 месяца назад +2

      Trek is a bicycle company. Fairly large now. I think they started in 1978-9 ? Good products.

    • @paulhease1007
      @paulhease1007 Месяц назад +2

      You absolutely would not want to do that trip now. Traffic is much faster, denser and less patience for cyclists.

  • @Zeequencha
    @Zeequencha 6 месяцев назад +13

    Nobody overweight then.

  • @adeo.4473
    @adeo.4473 5 месяцев назад +7

    I used to work in London back then, you could have a few pints after work, stagger off to get the last train, then walk home in the suburbs, no bother...

    • @filthyclown8033
      @filthyclown8033 10 дней назад

      And you still can. How queer

    • @Dreyno
      @Dreyno 5 дней назад

      You still can. Grow a pair ffs.

  • @Springamatul
    @Springamatul 5 дней назад +3

    A lot less high rise buildings back then, no Canary Wharf or the Shard etc

    • @mikekaraoke
      @mikekaraoke 4 дня назад

      Nope-which opened on 26 August 1991, but CW was being built in the 80's!

  • @zefini7397
    @zefini7397 5 месяцев назад +5

    No mês passado fomos conhecer Londres, minha esposa e eu. Foi a grande🎉 realização dos nossos sonhos, ficamos hospedados no Hotel Plaza em frente da estação Lambeth North, então ficamos muitos próximos das maiores atrações da cidade e pudemos conhecer muitas delas apenas caminhando. Num dia de sol pegamos o metro e fomos conhecer tbm a famosa Abbey Road dos Beatles que fica próxima da estação St. John's Wood. Em Londres o transporte é facil. Mas a cereja 🍒 do bolo foi caminharmos de madrugada, eu e a minha esposa, debaixo de uma fina chuva prateada cantando a música "London Town" dos Wings, um dos momentos mais mágicos e inesquecíveis ao longo dos meus 64 anos de vida. Vou dormir todas as noites olhando as fotos que tirei de Londres no celular me lembrando desses momentos e pedindo pra sonhar que ainda estamos lá. Pra quem tem esse sonho e puder fazer isso eu digo, vá, vá porque vale a pena, essa experiência acrescentou muita emoção nas nossas vidas e nos deu um novo significado para entendermos o mundo...

  • @vinniechudam1835
    @vinniechudam1835 3 дня назад

    6:23 The seat moquette on the District Line back then was also the same which was applied to all of London's fleet of modern buses. Routemasters retained their red seats.

  • @MikeYm98875
    @MikeYm98875 6 месяцев назад +8

    40 fucking years

    • @museonfilm8919
      @museonfilm8919 8 дней назад +2

      A bit more grubby than it is today, but it had charm - and being 14 at the time, I didn't think twice about going out for a day's shopping with mates on a Saturday.

  • @finnmanproductions9240
    @finnmanproductions9240 8 дней назад +1

    Nice to see as very few people living in the UK could afford to make home movies at that time.

    • @mikekaraoke
      @mikekaraoke 4 дня назад

      Where did you get that info from? lol

  • @spleeeen4it
    @spleeeen4it 23 дня назад +6

    when people looked normal, not like mini arnie shwarzeneggers or katie prices

  • @jaroslavmaly3333
    @jaroslavmaly3333 Год назад +4

    Excellent video-i ve been everywhere-Battersea power station is best-Jerry from the Czech Republic

    • @digeme69
      @digeme69 3 месяца назад

      Battersea Power Station is now full of expensive luxury flats that the average person could never afford.

  • @garythomas9841
    @garythomas9841 5 дней назад

    Fantastic,thank you.Subbed.

  • @misfit2022
    @misfit2022 2 месяца назад +2

    Back in the days when you didn’t have to pay £12.50 from as far afield as West Drayton just to drive in and the Hammersmith bridge was open

    • @mrmillslee
      @mrmillslee 8 дней назад

      And you recognised your country and what it stood for

  • @gmc9451
    @gmc9451 2 дня назад

    I left school in 1983. The economy was dire with high levels of unemployment. There was a real sense of hopelessness across the country as depicted in dramas such as Made in Britain, Boys from the Black Stuff and even the soap Brookside. Music too eg The Specials' Ghost Town. Universities are now full of students mostly doing BS courses that lead nowhere. If they weren't on these courses ( and getting themselves into a ton of debt in the process) they'd be on the dole; just like in 1983.

  • @mac1975
    @mac1975 3 месяца назад +6

    Grubby violent place. Tube stations were dangerous filthy places and the buses stank of piss, as did the telephone boxes, even so I’d prefer that to how it is today.

    • @Ridersonthestorm8899
      @Ridersonthestorm8899 Месяц назад +1

      Down In The Tube Station At Midnight lol.

    • @spleeeen4it
      @spleeeen4it 23 дня назад +2

      its even more violent now

    • @marthasheilds2446
      @marthasheilds2446 10 дней назад

      That's the same all over the UK not just a London issue.

    • @mrmillslee
      @mrmillslee 8 дней назад +1

      Now most places are how you describe.. just much worse and looks and feels like our culture is on its last legs to survive

    • @museonfilm8919
      @museonfilm8919 8 дней назад

      Yes, the piss smell of phone boxes - I remember that.
      Having to call a cab or a friend, and trying not to breath in through my nose!!
      Those later 'open' BT telephone kiosks were better in terms of hygiene.

  • @carlgrove8793
    @carlgrove8793 5 месяцев назад +3

    The sound track is way over the top, which spoils it somewhat. Cars weren't loud and rickety. Otherwise a nice look at a city and a period which is still fairly recent in my memory. In fact it was in the mid 80s that they started demolishing the older buildings and began putting up the high rise monstrosities that have disfigured the city in the last few decades.

  • @johneaton25
    @johneaton25 6 месяцев назад +8

    Yep our kids kids will be saying…..look at all the W’s back then, where did they all go? 🤔

    • @jaspal201
      @jaspal201 5 месяцев назад +2

      I hear an echo of the aborigine in you😊

  • @seriousros7280
    @seriousros7280 5 дней назад +1

    See how slim everyone was before poisonous food additives, suspect pharmaceuticals and home computers.

    • @mikekaraoke
      @mikekaraoke 4 дня назад

      There were home computers in 1983 though!

    • @seriousros7280
      @seriousros7280 3 дня назад

      @@mikekaraoke Only just Mikey The point being people were not sitting watching screens as much

  • @leechilds3725
    @leechilds3725 5 дней назад

    Great memories visited London as an 11 year old. we got a all day travel card and went to trafalgar Square . Is it me, or does London seem soulless these days ?

  • @middleman9183
    @middleman9183 8 дней назад +4

    ......before the invasion

  • @museonfilm8919
    @museonfilm8919 8 дней назад

    Funny to see that some folks were still wearing flared trousers in 1983 - they just couldn't let go of the 70's!!

    • @Isleofskye
      @Isleofskye 7 дней назад +1

      I'm 70 and mine are still in my London wardrobe, just in case...:)

  • @oddities-whatnot
    @oddities-whatnot 7 дней назад +1

    Ah yes, no congestion zone and affordable housing.

  • @mauricerevelle8451
    @mauricerevelle8451 9 дней назад +1

    Bloody Hell, Carnaby St. Coloured paving, The Cascade, Melanddi the Mod days.
    Could be well moody around there you had to be on your alert.
    Many a punch up with other tribes. Skinheads especially .
    Soho was well sleazy, plenty of nonce cases , pervs , predators, runaways, gangsters etc.
    If you’ve been hanging about day n night you’d come back with black stuff blowing out your nose and the sleep in your eyes would be black as well from the pollution.
    London has always been changing. Always had it’s dangerous side.
    I’ve no problem being there and never will. Seen it , lived it and love it..

  • @alvzugo4166
    @alvzugo4166 20 дней назад +1

    Celular com antena
    Fiquei idoso

  • @benfisher1376
    @benfisher1376 Год назад +4

    40 years ago

    • @ttuoma9386
      @ttuoma9386  Год назад +9

      Exactly, it is hard to understand where all those years have gone. I was 16 when I was filming this, just before portable VHS was available, for me at least.

    • @philgraham5341
      @philgraham5341 Год назад +4

      I celebrated my 18th birthday in June 1983 and think where did those years go! It seems so much more old fashioned looking back now and the London skyline is much changed but then it’s 40 years ago!

    • @benfisher1376
      @benfisher1376 Год назад +2

      @@philgraham5341Definitely. I was a 5 year old starting infant school lol

    • @SunShine-dk6rk
      @SunShine-dk6rk Год назад +4

      ​@@ttuoma9386I was 18 back then,you have really captured the essence of London back then a little bit of everything,a delight to watch, Thank you.

    • @SunShine-dk6rk
      @SunShine-dk6rk Год назад +4

      ​@@philgraham5341Same age,this upload reminds me of the fashions back then,tv programs,cars and my first beer i think back then it was 80p a pint,music too like Thompson twins and Bowies songs that year,remember it like it was yesterday but watching it on film reminds you it was a while back, Best wishes.

  • @nicholassheffo5723
    @nicholassheffo5723 4 месяца назад +2

    I think you meant a SANKYO camera, not Sanyo.

    • @ttuoma9386
      @ttuoma9386  4 месяца назад +1

      Yes I think you're right, too different companies Sankyo and Sanyo. Must have been Sankyo Sound XL-60S, borrowed from my aunt. Quite expensive those days, I had to save some money to be able to pay the filmcosts...

    • @nicholassheffo5723
      @nicholassheffo5723 4 месяца назад

      @@ttuoma9386 And the older expired film stocks can cost even more to develop, if they even still make the chemicals in the case of some older color film. Of course, you cannot even get Kodachrome or its imitators developed in color as they do not make the color chemicals to fini9sh them and the color was never int he actual film in those cases.

  • @misspurrr-fect3684
    @misspurrr-fect3684 15 дней назад +5

    Now it looks like a
    3rd 🌍 💩 🕳️ .

    • @museonfilm8919
      @museonfilm8919 8 дней назад

      Sadly, because it is.

    • @PSYCHIC_PSYCHO
      @PSYCHIC_PSYCHO 6 дней назад

      London's decline began from 2010 with successive Tory governments under funding public services and councils.

  • @Alanjelvis
    @Alanjelvis 2 дня назад

    7:45 is that the centre point?

    • @ttuoma9386
      @ttuoma9386  2 дня назад

      It's Portland House in Westminster.

  • @trebleking1641
    @trebleking1641 7 дней назад

    The days before we were culturally enriched.

    • @PSYCHIC_PSYCHO
      @PSYCHIC_PSYCHO 6 дней назад +1

      Actually the first wave of large scale immigration happened during the 50's, 60's, and 70's; back then there was a good balance of ethnic minorities when it wasn't a problem. It only became a problem since 2002 when our borders were dropped and not regulated

  • @067captain
    @067captain 3 месяца назад +10

    Aaah, happy days, when Britain was British and the government stayed out of our lives. No constant talk of racism, the word misogyny wasn’t in use, no one except housewives worked from home, children played outside and burnt energy and scraped knees. Lost forever as all the immigrants turn our country into exactly the kind of country they are all so keen to leave!

    • @marthasheilds2446
      @marthasheilds2446 10 дней назад +1

      Society is racist and segregated all over the UK tolerance and attitudes have changed for the worse.

    • @speakertreatz
      @speakertreatz 10 дней назад

      and you were all unemployed

    • @PeterMoore66
      @PeterMoore66 7 дней назад +1

      "No constant talk of racism" followed by blatant racism. What a tool.
      I moved to London the year after this video was made and, coming from Surrey, I was amazed at the huge amount of different faces, races, and skin colours I encountered. It was initially scary, but this middle-class white boy soon grew to love it.
      "Misogyny" might not have been in use, but there was a lot of it about.
      You go back to pining for days when the air was polluted and the BNP were out in force. I'll take London as it is today thanks.

    • @Isleofskye
      @Isleofskye 7 дней назад

      @@PeterMoore66 Whereabouts, roughly,in which part of London do you live, please, Peter?

    • @PSYCHIC_PSYCHO
      @PSYCHIC_PSYCHO 6 дней назад

      There were immigrants in London from the 1950's, therefore they are not all to blame

  • @JohnKobaRuddy
    @JohnKobaRuddy 10 дней назад +1

    Nowadays its spot the rice Krispie.

  • @simeonselmon8318
    @simeonselmon8318 4 дня назад +1

    This is before all Muslims arrived

  • @otozatko9137
    @otozatko9137 6 месяцев назад +18

    WHEN LONDON WAS STILL WHITE

    • @jaspal201
      @jaspal201 5 месяцев назад

      Well why don't white all go back and stay in europe then keep America red and Australia black eta

    • @mypointofview1111
      @mypointofview1111 5 месяцев назад +8

      I dunno which part of London you're referring to. I was a young mum back then and London was very multicultural then. The demographic has shifted a bit but London has always been multicultural

    • @marthasheilds2446
      @marthasheilds2446 4 месяца назад +1

      ​@mypointofview1111 London was multicultural heavily the rest of the UK cities and towns were white and very racist.

    • @rockolutheran
      @rockolutheran 4 месяца назад +1

      @@mypointofview1111 That's categorically not true when you look at the empirics. But hey, keep gaslighting yourself and everyone else.

    • @Ridersonthestorm8899
      @Ridersonthestorm8899 Месяц назад +1

      ​@@marthasheilds2446Very racist???what utter nonsense you spout.

  • @dainipponbazai
    @dainipponbazai 4 дня назад

    Even The white people’s country

  • @PS-pn9rd
    @PS-pn9rd 3 месяца назад +1

    Kodak super 8 was a waste of money

    • @ttuoma9386
      @ttuoma9386  3 месяца назад +4

      What do you mean exactly? Was there better film available at the time? Any other way for a tourist to film? Videocameras were not an option at that time.

    • @keijak1
      @keijak1 2 месяца назад +2

      Thanks for uploading. Filmed during the best summer that I can remember and June/July that year were glorious months. Would be good with a soundtrack of the summer hits of that year, there were some great tracks.
      Thanks again.

    • @museonfilm8919
      @museonfilm8919 8 дней назад +1

      We're here many years later enjoying the scenery from way back when, so I guess it had some uses.

  • @danielelunardi8014
    @danielelunardi8014 6 дней назад

    It was when London was culturally poor... I heard that in recent years it has become very culturally enriched...😅

  • @tropicalpalmtree
    @tropicalpalmtree 10 дней назад +2

    Definitely lost it's character since these days. I preferred the old London skyline too. I love tall buildings but the glass towers in central London look gash.

    • @speakertreatz
      @speakertreatz 10 дней назад +1

      the same thing happened the Dublin skyline, developers keep pushing for more height and more glass

    • @tropicalpalmtree
      @tropicalpalmtree 10 дней назад +2

      @@speakertreatz Yeah its not good. They look soulless. The walkie talkie building in particular ruins the square mile. Ugliest building i have ever seen.

  • @gill.5116
    @gill.5116 7 дней назад +1

    Before the brown s migrated here

    • @PSYCHIC_PSYCHO
      @PSYCHIC_PSYCHO 6 дней назад +1

      Actually immigrants to London have been in London since the 1950's; only in the last 20 years has immigration got out of control.

    • @user-dq5fs8fm5v
      @user-dq5fs8fm5v 4 дня назад

      ​​@@PSYCHIC_PSYCHO Rather allowed to get out of control to suit big businesses. 1000 come in, 100 get hired by Mc Donalds on minimum wage to help keep costs and wage demands down, tax payer pays for the other 900, GDP looks great because the government gives money to the 900 to sit about, but they still have to eat so spend the money they are given with those same big businesses...and who cares about the crime wave, the overcrowding, the change in culture etc? Bring on the next 1000... And what does the government say? Nothing, they work for big businesses and are never going to be held responsible for their actions.