Moving London (1983)
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
- Moving London emphasizes the importance of the brand, e,g, the London Transport Roundal and how people are meant to feel safe and happy in the arms of LT when being transported about the capital. An interesting documentary from 1983.
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I am amazed that while watching this video recently I saw my wife coming up an escalator in the tube. she passed away 30 years ago, so it was so nice to see her even though only for a few seconds. We had been together about a year when this video was taken. Unbelievable and joyful.
May God bless her
🌹🌷💐🌺🌸🌼
At 1:02? Which one is your wife? How amazing that you found this. It’s fate
How very lovely ❤. I watch old footage of Belfast and each time hope to see my mother or father.
How lovely
A London that's now gone forever.
😢😢😢😢
Thanks to Tony Blair
Thank goodness it has gone, else we would be stuck in some kind of weird theme park. Look how other cities have changed and for the better. No longer do people have to commute to work and be apart from their families, London is not just for work - but homes too occupy many central areas in new apartments. Who would have thought so much would be done to discourage the car and welcome in more options for those than just having transport by car.
Thatcher was worse
@@spleeeen4it She was truly wonderful. So much so, we still are enjoying the benefits of her foresight today!
Back in the day when I was listening to Steve Right on RADIO 1 and dancing around to DURAN, WHAM and Jackson.
Culturally the big change has been the Internet but so many other things remain the same or have hardly moved on.
Community and living wise, like the rest of the Country, its a mess and slowly being destroyed.
Sad. Very very sad.
Thanks for posting.
Wow, actual Londoners when they still lived in London 😲 It hardly looks like the same city today.
London has changed so much. I preferred it when I grew up back in North London and went to college, then out to work in Bond St. life seemed so much better than how I found London now whenever I go back for a visit.
I grew up in south west London
It's called getting older. I personally think London has changed overall for the best since my earliest memories of the early 80's. DLR, Jubilee extension, Overground, new rolling stock on numerous lines and now the Elizabeth line. I love that I can live in the East, visit friends and family East, North and West, work in the South and then enjoy central and more when off work 🎉
How things have changed in 30+ years. I won't say any more than that. Except that I could cry.
Peter Gordon The glorious 80s, eh?
SC info bless you.
Peter Gordon It'll return one day.
@MusicalElitist1 Anti-white troll. Kindly address your brain wasting disease.
@@chrispatterson1019 ... Oh no it really will not, it'll never be as it was.
The first time I went to London was somewhere in 1993 when I was 6. I don't remember much. The second time I went there was the summer of 1995 and I remember there was a noticeable difference between then and now. I imagine everything was simpler in 1983.
EU started in 1993.
This programme may have been made I 1983 but obviously lots of the footage is from different eras, from the 1950's onwards.
Give me a time machine to go back to the late 70s / early 80s in London any day
Every...single...solitary....time.
People smoking on all public transport and in cinemas
Fuck that 🤢
Every single shot was staged as a part of this glazed hazed over rose tinted info-doc that totally isnt lighthearted propaganda of a time long gone. This is dxactly what they wanted you to think, but the time was very different
when you find one give me a call !!!!!
I think the quality of the video makes us feel nostalgic and in another place of mystery 😂if you was actually placed in London at that time you would see it’s not that amazing compared to now
Getting rid of the trolleybuses was one of the most misguided decisions of the immediate postwar years. The great smog of the early 50s should have been a warning of future traffic pollution. Even though much of the smog was caused by smoke from factories mixed with fog.
And the coal that was still being used to heat people's homes.
They were removed in the 60s
Many other cities replaced trolley busses with diesels. Not a good idea in hindsight. But when coal fired power stations were making the power, the CO2 and pollution was simply shifted back into town with diesels..
This is such a charming little film, thanks for sharing it. Wonderfully put together!
Bring back that type of London!!!
And you see!!! We didn't have mobile phones or Internet those days Yet things did work very very well and if we enjoy what we have today its because of those years!!!
I moved to London back in 1999/2000 and I can see how much this city has changed soo much in the last 20 years and not so much in a better way unfortunately.
Funny thing that. I was well into LT and it's buses as a youngster. We moved North in 72 so to me these 80's shots are of a London changed in just ten years, 'new' red phone boxes, roundels on the bus fleet instead of gold London Transport. So, a new picture of the Capital even though its now so dated (!)
Well Britain has voted for paradise and unicorn farming so everything will be great on the other side of New Year. 😉
@@bokhans . And you’re content to be ruled by a bunch of egotistical, overpaid, self serving idiots - enjoy 😉
@@danbaltic9678 what natives?
@@oomz1975 indigenous Britons descendants of Anglo-Saxon and Celtic tribes
Let's all praise the beauty of diversity which has made today's London better than ever. Smarter, friendlier, better educated, more polite, and of course, safer.
Said no one ever.
1981 the year I was born. It's feels like it's either 50s or the 60s while I was watching Moving London.
Much of it is, old films from way before 1983, just happened to be published then.
And ladies dressed so well.
@MusicalElitist1 some of them do..but majority looks like bitches..or some look like guys ... and some guys looks like ladies as well. back then people looked more simple and human . now everyone is clever and unique :D
@@TheZiggiz and I like that people are unique its more interesting and it shows the human in them even more. Back then people bottled up their emotions and didn't express them selves which is unhealthy.
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Today, more people than ever are committing suicide, so that shows than far fewer are expressing their emotions now, partly because of the oppression of political correctness with its ‘you can’t say that’ and ‘ you’re sacked because some freak has been offended’.
I enjoyed watching this. Very interesting look back on life in Britain.
The year I was born. 😊 Proud to be born in such a wonderful city as London
Yep, love London.
Same here. I'm not proud of it in the state it's in now. The majority of people born there aren't either. Incredibly sad, but London will be back one day. Unfortunately, probably not in our time.
vermilion J 🧕💣💥
@@chrispatterson1019 ... London is still a fantastic and beautiful city, the problem is the people that now reside there are not proud of their city, the problem is not that the city has changed but that the people have changed and have no pride in their city anymore. London hasn't gone anywhere so how can it as you say "be back one day" ... Its here as its always been, and is like any big city for ever changing, its peoples rose coloured glasses that are the problem, as they keep one living in the past, that's fine but you have to realise that nothing stays the same and everything progresses and is renewed, that may not always be for the better, but that really comes down to peoples individual perceptions, London will always be a beautiful city and always has been.
Same... born in 1983
I was 20 years old then great times
You've seen better times for sure
@@popindosin228 NO I HAVE NOT
me too i'm 57 now
Me as well good times unlike now
I was 19
I was born in 1983. London was a whole different place back then ❤️
1980 born... Agree a whole different place... Much better now overall! ❤
Absolutely love watching old London as it was,very interesting and very well narrated.
London's population in 1983 was roughly 6 million, by 2021 it will reach close to 10 million. roughly 2 million increase alone happened between 2001-2016, That's a short space for a such a rapid increase of people in a dense area, And people wonder why buses are running late, the tube on some busy stations have to close the gates for crowd control, The system isn't designed to cope with this many people.
4 million? I just can't imagine how many problems this can generate.
A fair amount of the increase has been replacing industrial areas (Colindale, Nine Elms,) and new sites - marshy Barking Riverside , Dagenham and Beckton Area along with the amount of higher tower blocks. Plus all the little shops into 3 storey flats.
London population is roughly 12 million and looking to increase in years to come .
As a Londoner since 1999 i have seen so much change and I still love the is city
Great video I like watching videos from the past its always nice to see how life was back then compared to what it is now
A very archaic style for 1983...the retiree narrative character probably reflects what was on the minds of the filmmakers...40 years of educational shorts behind them...big library of footage to compile from.
+spencer hardy I produced this film. As we had to rely on the British Transport Films archive for much of the film it seemd sensible to us e the technique of presnting it through the eyes of a retired employee. The script was written by Norman Prouting hwo had supplied scrpits for BTF sinc ethe early 1960s. Sadly Norman died the very day we recored the voice over with Frank Middlemass.
Interesting film. Did you produce any more films like this, and are they available to watch online?
During a ten year period I worked on a number of films for LT and LUL. Those that were publised include: Brill to Baker Street, Sweet Retun, Getting to Grips.
Sound like porn titles.
A retired gentleman's reflections on the advent and changes of transport in a city he served for 50 years. How 'dya expect the narrative to go?
Much better in those day's.
I have a quiet fondness for our transport system
Miss T.E.A. Many people do !
How London has changed, and at such a pace, the indigenous Angelo Saxons are now a minority in our once great Capitol.
I used to go to Hainault quite a bit and then get a bus to Chigwell Row , interesting to see the first train to go on the loop there. Loved the old buses and be able to jump on and off at the back , more fun 👍
still proud to be one last còckneys born in bow in 1947 used to go and get. pie and mash for my old lady on Fridays good luck from dangerous brian
I like the simple things,like how people have newspapers under their arms and no one is looking at their phones constantly. (I know there wasn’t mobile phones then)
I know what you mean. Mobile phones are great in a way but it has made people less sociable.
I remember men in bowler hats off to work on the tube behind their large morning newspapers in the 60's.
For the moment I use a normal non-smart phone. Sometimes it can be anoying, because you can't acces information, but sometimes is fine, because I feel free.
Worse of all, some people are looking on the screen while driving or riding the bicycle.
@@serenacameron3359 ...Yes, and I also remember men on the tube in the early 1970s in their suits with flared trousers going off to the office, with umbrella hanging over their arm and newspaper tucked up beneath their arm pits. Also many of them had longer hair than the ladies 😂
@@zeeteavathepipe3184
I don’t have a mobile phone now. They stopped selling pay-as-you-go sim cards, plus I wasn’t using it enough. The last time I was in Edinburgh, there was still a few public telephones around, so I might just leave off buying another “smart” phone.
Great Video of this 80's video
Thank you for uploading. The video was very informative and interesting to know the history of London Transport.
Great piece of nostalgia, shame the city has lost its soul.
The “soul” is still there! It’s up to the people to ensure it REMAINS😉
GOOD TIMES GONE BY.
I love that the passenger(s) at 11.10 are politely standing aside to LET PEOPLE OFF THE TRAIN FIRST, as any sensible person would. Nowadays you see idiots standing in the way trying to get on first. unfortunately the intelligence of some people has regressed since the 80s rather than advanced.
@@pennywatson8710 Yeah, why?
The CloneX2 ... Its a simple case of people were far better mannered back in the 1970s and 1980s than they are today, people really were far nicer back then, today people just seem to ignore each other, people were far friendlier back then, society wasn't so me, me, me back then.
@@martinwebb5588 . I think it’s called ‘self entitled’. 😉
I don,t want to be judgemental but: some people of third world origin don,t have western manners.....that's why You see from time to time: stampedes at their religious celebrations, where people are killed by mindless idiots with no manners. I myself have opened doors, and gone out of my way to help mainly women of this ilk.......and have received no thanks for my trouble. And judging by footage of oxford street etc: half of London seems to be full of people of this ilk.
Import it, become it
Thanks for posting this it was amazing
14:01 Harrow Bus Station, looks exactly the same today from that angle!
A fascinating watch... thanks for uploading! I do miss London Transport's glory days... as a youngster going on family holidays to Hastings we would always know we were 'in the country' when we started seeing green RT's instead of red ones from our car window... happy days indeed!
This would be a fantastic resource for our Year 6 classes as part of their London & Brighton geography and history topic! Following the changes to transport over the years; how the city grew; links to historical events; building their own map of the underground lines over time; researching what has changed in London transport since 1983 and comparing then to the present day. and spotting some of the famous landmarks.
It's not long ago the old London. I feel the change sped up in mid 90s onwards. As a child I just about remember the old London when visiting around 1992
EU started in 1993.
Some of this film is a lot older than 1983
Great video - thanks Joanne.
the camera quality even for 1983 seems like the film was made in 50s or early 60s
only that Jubilee line poster and the dot matrix gave me an idea that this is the 80s
brilliant video thanks for sharing
Wow it looked so English! How nice it was
If I remember correctly, from my 'Red Rover ticket' days, those Red Arrows could really shift!
That was London's answer to the RE,s what we had in the west country especially Bristol we had REs in Stroud I think that Luton had them as well ether so it is an eastern town just 25 miles north of London they can really shift
Red Rover tickets, care free days of jumping on and off those wonderful Routemaster buses ... they were the days, when you would get told off by the conductor for hanging out the side of the bus gripping the handle, and then once you got off shouting a mouthful of abuse at them ... wonderful forgotten insults such as Tosser, Wanker, old git, and worse, oh how those conductors must have just loved us kids 🙂
Same ! Swifts/Merlins. Blue destination screens.
This can't be true, the BBC keep telling us England, particular London has had a large ethnic community since Tudor times and before, the buss drivers don't look ethnic but it's only 1983 we're told they'd all been ethnic for at least 20 years by this time, how could they have built Britain for us?
Ethnic doesn't just mean non-white folk chief.
@@oomz1975 what does it mean then. I thought ethnicity was most definitely what colour you were. Religion is something different.
In 1983 I was five years old. I remember seeing people smoking 🚬 on the trains. I remember the busy interchange at a station that looked like the central Line with my mum. A man got off and his cigarette burnt my hand. The older underground trains smelt a certain way and the seats were more comfortable. Back then we were paying cash 💰 fares
Would happily get in a time machine now and kiss modern world goodbye.
I moved to London in 1981, it was fabulous. It was also the year of the first race riots if I recall, so not all harmony. Upon balance I still prefer London then. Routemaster buses, by far better!
thanks very much for uploading Joanne
I hope then flutist & oboe player are still getting royalties for their stellar blowing efforts on this one
Is that Basildon, Essex that we see in this video (when the narrator refers to 'new towns, away from the city'?
I miss the 1980s transports very much, what a sad they're changed right now is, 2023 is all long gone! :(
And now we've got the Elizabeth Line
Yes guards in every tube , helped make you feel safe 😊
Life is all memory
Neat, English people in London!
this video is so calming somehow. im so tired of the modern world.
The background music is very 50s.
Happy days
I loved watching this ❌❌
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No English in London now
Video makes me sad. I have to ask myself WHY?
The last trams, 1952 , the year i was born .
We still have trams in Croydon area..
The original old style units, yes ?
went there in late July of that year. Great trip. lack of ice was rough.
And now it's full of "Burgah"
Burgers? Yeah.loads of them. McDonalds. Burger King. Fuck yeah!!
There’s no way this is 1983 .....1953 maybe.
Some of it is I should no I was there in 1983
Is the uploader of this video any relation of the bloke in this video?
Wow... I was just a 5 year old then
I really liked this. Thank You. In the 80's and up to 2006 London was fab. The last 13 years have been shocking. In fact since Labour got in in the late 90's was the beginning of the end of the London that I loved. It's a horrible city now unless you are super rich or desperate poor. There is no middle any more and people like me don't want to live there now. Sad ! Politicians of all classes should be shot ( not literally) but they should be ashamed there was nothing wrong with the UK as it was.
London already had loads of immigrants long before the 1980s, I was born and raised in London's East End in the 1960s and 1970s and there were thousands and thousands of immigrants back then, Pakistanis, Bangladeshis, Indians, West Indians, Jews, Chinese and a few Greeks and Turks, My secondary school in Stepney in the early 1970s was about 50% white and 50% brown/black skin children ... East London and parts of South East London have had many immigrants since at least the mid 1960s, they were literally everywhere when I was a kid, even the shops were owned by Indians and Pakistani's ... in some parts of East London all you would see is immigrants especially in the 1970s, places like Aldgate, Whitechapel, Stepney Green, East Ham (Green street area), Hackney and many other parts. Some people seem to look back through rose coloured glasses, but in reality the problems of immigration were with us way back in the 1960s, Only thing is they didn't put those areas onto TV or make films about them, they stayed well clear of those areas and people, especially from the slum areas where there was high crime. Some areas of London had very few immigrants of colour back then, but others were filled with them.
@@martinwebb5588 Southall, Uxbridge Road to Shepherds Bush.
@@martinwebb5588 Well said ,London would have been the only city In the UK too be very diverse ,other UK cities like Birmingham Manchester Liverpool and Leeds are very Racist segregated and still like this today many are closeted and don't like outsider in those cities I mentioned .
That's mad that you should mention 2006 as the final year of London's Golden Era. I visited that summer and I was struck by how the magic was gone, and this is someone who'd been visiting since the 70s and 80s as a child. Why do you pick 2006?
I've seen you post pretty much the same thing on a few of these videos and I don't agree with a single word you say but I am very interested to hear why you pick 2006.
@@sarahfemi9862 Whats your stats on this,give me a link
Thank God there's Cardiff and the Country side Left because London has been Stripped of its History my family is from Dartford and Kensington ,Made there way to USA in 1860 only a few Remain ,To the British people I Say This Never give up the Fight Never Ever give up the fight ,I have and always Admired your Country
I saw something on YT where they're forcibly settling refugees in small towns in England. A true horror.
James French Horror? You’re too mad😂
I left school that year and was 17 years old in September of that year. 1983 was before London became blighted by gun, gang and drug crime!
Thanks 🙏
❤️ old day’s
The big idea was to get people away from over crowded London. Today - Let's build high rise flats on every bit of available land.
Funny listening to the narrator talking about the DLR at one point in a film that feels so fixed in the 60s.
Lee Butterley 5:06 is the proof
he sounds a bit like sid james
Wow, yeah he does!
Denholm Elliot I think.
I miss people being ordinary.
I miss better opportunities for more people.
Greed and prejudice have done so much harm.
fantastic
Before they turned it into a toilet.
They, you mean the passengers like you? LT didn’t for sure.
@@bokhans He was just being racist. Don't feed the idiots.
It was always a toilet, you colossal berk. Gawd, every bugger on any old footage of London is "Aww wozn it saao much *better* back then. Saaao much more *civilised*. Peepuw ad rispeckt. Not like the peepuw nahdayz"
I love the filthy old place, but people get these ridiculous nostalgic ideas and they're always based on the same old dogwhistling shite.
@@fdfsdfsvsfgsg4888 I didn’t see anything in his comment about race. Let it go man, if you keep looking for the imaginary racist around every corner you will go softer a lot quicker than you already are. Get some rest,exercise more and eat healthy and your clouded mind will quickly clear up. Not every comment or criticism is about race. Your comment says a lot more about you than him being the idiot.
@@rapman5363 you’re not very good at reading inferences
The clips has fragments from throughout the 20th century NOT 1983.
Is that Bernie Winters narrating ?
Where’s his Freedom Pass 1:10 ?
What a fascinating film 🎥
I was conceived about this time.
Todays transport planners could learn a lot from watching this video.
Better times !!
the only thing we need to bring back is the drip and the exterior/architectural aesthetics (but with better function with less carbon emissions) that's it.
At least the trams came back.
Makes you proud to be British. Proper made me feel so proper proud being citizen of Great Britain 🇬🇧
I was hanging around Oxford Street with my mates in 1983, probably bunking off school. 🤣😂
Simpler times.
interesting
This is not in 83 more earlier. Definitely.not 1983
Perhaps 60s people spoke far better English then today
It was made in 1983 regardless
It may have been made in 1983, but the fashions & hairstyles are from different eras from the 1950s onwards.
Sad that the enjoyment of these nostalgia videos has to constantly be ruined by negative comments about immigration. It's nice to just enjoy a bit of a reminisce without politics being involved.
Harambe of Akkad aah, sorry to hear that sweetheart. Where would be safe for you?
Can't handle the truth? Modern day London is a disgusting cesspit.
meganoikz you don't have to go there if it bothers you sweetie. There's plenty enough of us who love it. It's not perfect but a cesspool it ain't x
I don't go there, that doesn't detract from the fact that it's dump where most people ride the disgusting sewer train to work and live in cramped tiny houses.
meganoikz that's ok then. You don't go there...lots of people do.....that's the beauty of freedom of choice....gertcha!!
It is very disheatening to see so many racist comments on my post. I put these films up as they are nostalgic, but it is a past we could never return to. Everything changes and we have to accept this. Remember we invited people to come here to do the jobs that the Brits wouldnt do. You cant have it both ways and personally I embrace that change.
Oh for fucks sake! another pro-multicultural sycophant! Come off it Joanne, what did you honestly expect under the current circumstances?!
You can't put a video on you tube like this and expect rinky dink treacle coated responses from people, that's unrealistic & you know it!
And 'most' comments on here are not racist, it's just people merely expressing their opinions on when London was a nicer place back then.
There are plenty of smug comments on here from the anti white brigade if you care to comment on them?
As for your blurp 'INVITING PEOPLE HERE TO DO JOBS BRITS DON'T DO'
that pretty much sums up your reasons for putting this video up.
you knew what you were doing lol
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Well I personally abhor the change. I preferred a London when we were all singing from the same sheet, when multiculturalism was unheard of, before the Metropolitan liberal elite (you?), told us what to think. God help London and God help England.
Joanne Harris ... Tut, tut, you at it again, upsetting the natives, let them fume on, its only their blood pressure that's going to go through the roof, it's just their way of letting off steam, best to let them get on with it. You have a nice cup of tea and put your feet up. 👍
Thanks 😊 for your comments. Jesus said love thy neighbour.
@@martinwebb5588 you are Theo lay on with high blood pressure mate. Trying to constantly preach your backwards views on every comment in the thread. You failed at life racist.
I look at this video because lately I felt the 3rd feeling in London now. I'm not even English I wonder what English might be feeling and seeing now. London is filthy now
RIP the Queen
5:06 we have a clue here