"Trans Athletes Won't Get Periods!" Fiery Debate On Transgender Women In Sports

[@KaiGaming84]

There's not a SINGLE male that cheers when a trans-man competes in a woman's league. Not one. We are with you ladies, this madness needs to end!

[@akos5146]

Well said 🤗👏👏👏

[@coryw3339]

I'm sure there's plenty of weirdo lefties that cheer for them.

[@11Mz.CarpenterIieshea26]

Yes

[@khr217]

Well said, and cheers for using identity names properly. Transman is a man who believes being a woman.

[@vitorfernandes651]

Speak for yourself. It’s their problem. Women need to stand up for themselves. We men already stand up for ourselves.

[@eastenderirl7607]

The simple fact that this is not an issue in men's sports says a lot.

[@davidcallin9800]

So true!!

[@sib1930]

Because men are stronger

[@sambrooks7862]

Can you imagine the fall out if a female boxer became a man then got seriously hurt or killed in their first bout? Because that's almost certainly what would happen.

[@darrellwilliams1714]

Exactly

[@som3839]

@@sib1930 obviously, so trans men are stronger no matter how much estrogen they take it’s still unfair

[@DonCacomixtle]

Finally an athlete woman who stands against this insanity, congratulations Amelia 🎉💪🏻🙌🏻

[@davidgilbert9822]

It should be a blanket ban. No trans person can go against a real woman. End of discussion,go against your fellow trans athletes.

[@jrodspeaks]

That still wouldn't be a fair playing field to put trans men and trans women on the same team. It would still be biological men beating biological women.
Trans men need their own teams. Trans women need their own teams. Sex based teams.
Sincerely,
an actual, legitimate transsexual who is not part of the woke "trans" cult.

[@dis7817]

How can one measure individuality and pass one trans and not another. What would be the measurements? A man 5'8" passes but a man 5'9" is too tall?

[@deshawn53988]

Where are all the trans male athletes?? What a scam! It’s just unfair.

[@CharlieMarno100]

Great point. No trans men winning anything. Lmao

[@hanayanah]

@@CharlieMarno100 but see that’s exactly the reason why these males are pushing for competing against women. lol it’s such an easy win for them bc they have the biological advantage and they would loose so badly against their fellow men. stupid.

[@badgoogle9938]

​@@CharlieMarno100 no trans men are competing so winning is out of the question.

[@abstraqtphilosophy7357]

​@@badgoogle9938 hmmm...I wonder why trans men are not competing against biological men in pro sports 😂

[@jemmaj2919]

​@@badgoogle9938 that's not true, the truth is, they will never get to compete in competitions because they need to demonstrate that they can beat records. As long as they compete against men, they will never get to the level to qualify for such competitions. 13yr old boys beat most athletic women

[@dadcooks1347]

Womanhood is something that needs to be protected and cherished. It’s not a suit you can just choose to wear one day.

[@kdogg6781]

same w/ manhood.

[@rogerreverence4737]

@dad cooks - tell that to trans serena williams and venus williams. The wta has a trans participation policy. The main biased media will not touch this topic - beware!

[@crikeymos22]

Oh yes. That reminds me of silence of the lambs where he does kill women and wears their skin. Omg it’s now reality.

[@sik3xploit]

@@crikeymos22 Well trans have been quite violent lately...

[@sik3xploit]

@@ripcord8781 Elitists have never wanted commonfolk to notice the truth and reality. The woke are so relatable with them, starting off with not altering their views to fit the facts but altering the facts to fit their views.

[@kaysha]

Protect women at all costs

[@Tesseract9630]

Why

[@jackdelaive9732]

When I was young I played all sports. When I played basketball the coach told me I should find another sport. I was the shortest player on the team and basically I sucked. My feelings weren't hurt. He was right. I tried football and got my ass kicked then decided baseball would be a better choice. I was a pitcher and outfielder for years. Had a lot of fun. Never once thought, hey I'll pretend I'm a girl and compete against girls. I wouldn't be able to live with myself. If these guys can't compete against other men and live with the fact there not that good. Then start a league with a bunch of guys in dresses and see how that works. Leave the woman alone.

[@TheMouse-gc9ft]

Right, if you want to play a sport but you’re bad at it you can just play intramurals, or pickup games. These guys don’t want the fun, they want the awards and recognition.

[@hollyroxy25]

The problem is that they don’t want their own category, they want to bully & force themselves into the already existing categories.

[@donantoine2424]

👏

[@Alji3dom]

Absolutely 💯% correct. I said this to someone the other day online. It's all about I am look at me attention seeking. Like you say its about bullying and forcing this warped ideology on the rest of us. Go be a pig or a caterpillar if it pleases you but do it in your own space. It's madness to us but the puppet master behined it has a bigger agenda behind it.
Look into if you will the history of the Assyrian babylonian deity called ishtar. Its bisexual roots are in everything from ancient mother worship to the statue of liberty. I believe you will if you research it find why this is going on today and why this hatred to man and women is going on. Finally... why the governments are endorsing it protecting it and criminalising anyone who speaks out about it.

[@mdaddy775]

Have you asked them all?

[@hollyroxy25]

@@mdaddy775 I don’t need to, I’m judging by the endless comments they make on the internet & by things like the treatment of Riley Gains in San Francisco. If they wanted their own categories they wouldn’t harass, scream at, & physically assault a woman for saying just that...

[@tonyg490]

Yeah ,because they want to win lol. Also they don't want to be recognized as trans. They want to bully society into going along with their delusions.

[@raymondmeyers8983]

The fact we’re even having this debate tells you the level of madness to which our society has descended

[@teresabyrne855]

So true my thoughts

[@MG-jh2nl]

Imagine the reaction of people a hundred years ago if they could see the future of this society on screen.

[@lilpiepie]

Western society. This insanity won’t happen in other parts of the world.

[@theweetbixkid7702]

We’ve become the Weimar

[@M.W.H.]

​@@lilpiepiethey're trying to spread everywhere to have world wide support and gain traction.

[@Jane-vw5om]

My female friend was an avid cyclist who rode long Km every day on the road. then introduced her new partner to it so they could ride together. He had never really played a sport before or exercised.
After a few rides when he got the hang of it he was already faster than her and recovered better between rides too. A few months later he didn’t even want to ride with her anymore because she was too slow for him and he moved on and found a faster group of men to ride with.
So generally yes, it is an unfair advantage.

[@anja6548]

rude lol

[@nati5064]

And everyone with common sense would easily agree with that! 🤦‍♀️ All these people must have lost their minds

[@KE-yq2eg]

I would completely understand why he'd do that if I was the girlfriend LOL

[@Samira87333]

Lmfaoooooo what a jerk 😅
I can't help but laugh though.

[@JasonVectrex_187]

It should never have been allowed to begin with

[@trinitylane2202]

A trans woman will never have to try and compete while on "her" period. A few years ago there was a female Chinese swimmer who said she didn't do well in a race because her period had started the day before and she was tired. There are so many side effects from a woman's period. Insomnia, nausea, diarrhea, headaches, body aches, cramps, etc. A trans woman will never be negatively impacted during competition due to a period.

[@shannonbrown7488]

That's just the beginning of the disadvantage!

[@helensadeik400]

Yes because they will never have one

[@roxx8182]

Exactly! Including the use of contraceptive pills or other methods, female hormones and even menopause

[@len801]

@@helensadeik400 But they could IDENTIFY as having one. 🤣

[@rowluna6400]

As a swimmer training while on my monthly period is STRESSFUL, and HELL. 2 hrs of NONSTOP SWIMMING with the coach screaming and the pressure of not breaking the lane formation. MORE STRESSFUL in actual competition, the added stress of competing with a man is a Nightmare!

[@ryanlongley5052]

I cant believe that society in the west is actually having such a conversation, absolute madness

[@tracy6568]

🤯 I know right!!! 😡

[@MissTarryn]

Yep we're living in the damn twilight zone.

[@edwardmorford2202]

I think it's beyond low....it's just wrong whichever way you want to look at it it's just wrong.

[@choice4338]

Wow, the madness is real! It's mind boggling.

[@Wagonrider89]

Nothing wrong with having the conversation. The problem is we are having this discussion after taking action.

[@agra3778]

Not capable of menstruation = NOT woman. Period.

[@lemurlover7975]

Some people with XX chromosomes have problems in which they can't menstruate. So are they not women? Problems include lack of menstruation for months or years due to stress which can be resolved and menstruation can start again. Or they never developed a uterus despite having all the other parts when they were developing as fetuses. Or they got endometriosis which means the lining of the uterus just bleeds all the time and grows on other organs and the doctor had to use a laser to burn it all off and now that the endometrium is gone, it's never coming back, and they can't menstruate. Are all of these people not women? Because none of them menstruate?

[@thenerdzuero6002]

​@@lemurlover7975 Yeah, OP logic was dumb. And you just proved that, I still agree with the woman in the video though. Not having to deal with periods is already an advantage.

[@GeorginaTrump]

I can't believe he is still trying to validate men competing in women's sports. This gentleman is the issue!!

[@malavikarajeev]

As a biological woman, don't expect us to respect your views and beliefs when you can't respect us.

[@shailonnoelle7175]

You ppl really thought the rainbow ended with gay folk. Yall supported this shit since day one. Guess what. Pedophiles are waiting at the end of the rainbow. Congratulations you sold out your future so you could feel better right now

[@ps4games164]

So now we are saying "biological woman" instead just "woman"? Are you trying to reach to rainbow mafia members? Because the normal people saying just "woman".
Edit: I actually take it back for the sake of argumentation.

[@EXPLORADVEN]

Absolutely good. I think many non-trans men should have said this earlier to almost all the Feminists & Wokes that as biological men, Feminists & Woke shouldn't expect men to respect their views, when they couldn't respect men's view.
Then Feminists & Woke wouldn't have been able to push the world to a zone/phase where we have to discuss this, where some biological men who had feminine tendencies clearly decided that they can beat biological women in their own game and transitioned for that.

[@letom.359]

hahahaahaha

[@lonewolf4429]

It doesn't help when you call yourself a "biological woman." You are a woman.

[@shreygupt]

As a student who has read medicine. It's not only about the testosterone. It's about the muscle fibers which vary , the lung capacity, drawbacks of estrogen, foot span, bone density and shape , fat deposition, the growth of course, I could go on and on . This just proves we need a blanket ban for trans people competing in women sports. Why don't people get it. There are tran athletes who participate with women and also in the disabled category for women. It's just unfair. It's like using a gun in a sword fight. This community doesn't listen at all , I think that's why the freedom given to them is been withdrawn one step at a time. USA should get a grip on the LGBT situation before it sets a bad example for other countries ( LGBT community suppressing other for their rights)

[@skunkie110]

Trans people are not in touch with reality... most of them anyway. They are some of the most delusional people I’ve ever heard, and it’s just crazy we’re to go along with their delusions, or else we’re considered “transphobic.” Is it really “transphobic” or is it just being in touch with reality? And having common sense?

[@2009jadeorchid]

women vary a lot with lung capacity the ones not pear shaped have more lung capacity

[@ReenieG1UK]

Other countries are watching and America is one of the worst examples of TQIA++ gone mad, particularly when it comes to children…Ugandas new legislation was certainly influenced by the USA mess…

[@seenit09]

Biological females have slower reaction times than biological males. Individual assessment over.

[@kdburner7356]

@@2009jadeorchid woah you mean to say there’s exceptions? That’s mind blowing, have you told others about your theory?

[@millie1234ization]

Just because someone is short does not mean they are weak..

[@jellyfishbeans94]

I had a classmate before, shorter than me, fastest runner in my class.

[@ericsolomon3318]

This world is going to hell in a hand basket.

[@davehallett810]

This Trans thing is getting completely out of hand now.... Where's all the adults to say "ok stop this nonsense now"🤔

[@MrSnead-vp1ll]

Us old people are not asked, we are spit on.

[@StellaAsh]

Those shouting their mouth's off about it are a tiny minority of a tiny miniority - most are inadequate men who are mentally ill misoginists.

[@ls-l1518]

That's us.

[@markfox7764]

Don't be ridiculous, Dave. You might offend them.

[@theridiculousnicolaus]

It’s the adults fault and now they want to force it onto our kids

[@EmreDemirkayaLoves]

For a generation who claimes they don't want to be labeled , they sure invented a lot of labels for themselves

[@user-pe587ui90]

Thank you! Exactly.

[@LEELOLKH]

itself*

[@user-jo3st1xs1q]

Well said 👏🏼

[@anthonysquire1241]

Exactly!

[@clhowy87]

Shocker the MAN is for letting trans compete and the WOMAN isn’t. 🙄
Some men need to stay in their lane on this

[@troyhiscock3984]

And that man is no athlete..will never understand

[@Chalk89]

I dated a division one athlete in college - she was one of the strongest on her team and was quite fast. I hadn't been exercising nor was ever considered an exceptional athlete in high school - yet my warm-up bench, squat far exceeded her max and when we would do runs I would easily outpace her. I never once diminished her abilities, just realized, there's a vast difference between the sexes.

[@Belltuck]

Same story. My friend was very fit, she played tennis and ran. Her new boyfriend did neither but after a few weeks he won every match and race.

[@jondoc7525]

It’s the varbies that get the deeper voices that make it close . I have seen them here lol for the deep voice Adam’s apple and all that hair .

[@jimmydigital]

see, this is the part of the argument where people are shovelling in a lot of chauvinism - the belief that being male, any male, is a birthright of superiority when the reality is that plenty of women can beat men in sports. Even if a man dedicates his life to a sport. Pakistan's pole vaulting record for example is lower than the women's world record. the average Indian man is smaller than the average Latvian woman.

[@Chalk89]

@@jimmydigital It's not chauvinism - it's highlighting the sizable differences between the sexes. I never once said, 'all men can trump women in sports.' My point, and the point others are hoping will land - is men shouldn't be allowed to overtake women's athletics. I have a daughter - she shouldn't have opportunities stripped from her because a guy wants to be a woman.

[@tonyg490]

@jimmydigital we are born physically superior, thats just reality. I was a semi fast kid, not fast enough for the track team by any means though. My cousin, same age, was the fastest female at her school. We raced, I beat her. Mediocre males will dominate high skilled women the majority of the time. Just because there are some females who are exceptions, doesn't change the rule.

[@malgok9733]

There is no phobia in this its just normal reaction to injustice.

[@kirklewis3627]

They will find a way to label it a phobia

[@MrVpassenheim]

injustice is the word

[@tedbenveniste412]

It is transphobic

[@kirklewis3627]

@@tedbenveniste412 😂🤣😂🤣 🤣😂🤣😂🤣🤣😂🤣

[@bukibakk6984]

@@tedbenveniste412 Get him boys!

[@timdurgan]

Individual assessment will open the door to endless lawsuits. If one person is rejected and the other is accepted, that will be a discrimination case all the way up to CAS. It'll be more chaotic than it is already

[@dis7817]

True. What is the measurements used to determine who passes and who does not?

[@armedholston1760]

They don't get periods, Nor can they have kids 😂😂😂😂

[@cjay6547]

*Trans athlete:* "But when we bleed, we all bleed the same blood."
*Society:* _"Yes, just not from your minge, Dave."_

[@anenglishmanplusamerican7107]

Most underrated, right there.

[@Rotavegas1]

😂😂😂😂

[@jm5995]

😂😂😂 classic

[@dominicsmith4747]

😂😂😂

[@keepgoing7533]

Va jayjay

[@ChilddPlease]

To the transgender community:
Don’t expect me to accept your opinions and truth when you can’t accept my opinion nor truth respectfully. ♥️
And please don’t expect me to learn and use all these new terms, definitions, and pronouns. I’ve learned as much as I need to learn over my lifetime of education. Thank you in advance

[@jlove8445]

I have dated a transgender female by accident.
Don’t apologize.
If you want real trauma go on a date with (what in college they refer to as) a “lumberjack” and see which one of you two comes out traumatized.
I couldn’t eat for 3 weeks.
The phone rings and you think the spirits are comin for ya.
It was a nightmare

[@jlove8445]

Very honest and respectful comment, thank you.
It can be traumatizing, don’t even apologize. As I mentioned I dated one by accident.

[@fentyfentyhash9675]

Don't be proud of announcing yourself as a close minded drone who's incapable of learning new things. There is plenty of new things worth learning, it's stupid to make a statement like "I've learned as much as I've needed to learn.", never stop learning. Of course none of this gender ideology stuff is worth spending any time on and frankly is stupid AF.

[@advay3020]

years ago, ppl laughed at us for poor grammar if we used a pronoun apart from he/she lmao

[@Ididntaskforahandleyoutube]

​@@jlove8445, I'm so sorry, mate. I would have been the same way. Shame on him or her for doing that to you. Cheers

[@shawneevee7490]

I honestly don’t think trans rights should infringe on women’s rights. It’s misogynistic to force women into women’s protected spaces. Trans rights are NOT my fault!

[@queerasaclockworkorangehor1776]

Once again, biological men oppressing biological women.

[@dis7817]

It's misogynistic to allow men into womens spaces.

[@u2ubemeks]

In the US. The women are very quiet except for one woman and a transwoman advocating for women sports protection.! WHY??

[@cococalm]

What is astounding is that this problematic occurs only in one category, womens sport. There are no trans athletes going into mens sports !!!! How come is this never mentioned ? What is absolutely clear is that WOMENS spoort has to be protected and saved !!!

[@LadyLeomon]

Eh give it time, before long a trans man will compete against athletes who were born men, get thrashed, cry “I should get a handicap”, win cos of that handicap then proclaim “I won cos I’m a real man!” 😒😒😒

[@joannasliwa8147]

I completely agree and therefore 2 new categories should have been created : for trans women and trans men before all the Lia-Thomas polemic

[@NecessaryDramaAddictionNDA]

There was a trans man swimmer who was competing in the same pool as the women and lia Thomas. The trans man was able to do that because she didn’t take testosterone. She knows she’d have no chance even suppressing oestrogen and upping testosterone.

[@PoloABD]

Yes, women suck at sports 😅

[@piranhaplantfansixninefour4104]

It really isn't astounding. The reason they are getting annoyed about transgender women playing alongside biological women is that on average a person born male performs better in sports so a biological male playing alongside biological females would be unfair. This is not the case the other way around because biological females joining biological males in sports don't have a major advantage.
If you ask me, trans people should have to have proof of hormone treatment before entering their genders sports so the competition will be fair.

[@susannegibas5835]

My heart breaks for all of these women who made breaking records in their sports, only now to be broken by an individual who is not of equal level in competition means. Records that have been held for years, only to ruin in a quick moment.

[@givmi_more_w9251]

One little silver lining ... recently, a male weightlifting coach broke a female record held by a tranny. Which caused said tranny to crumble into a pile of salt. Very satisfying to see. The coach did it to make a statement, of course. He simply showed that a bearded pile of muscle like him can just declare himself a woman and compete.

[@somerandomchannel382]

Honesty. Im glad this happens. It was absolutely needed some change, and finally change will come.

[@mELONHEAD1899]

Still the women’s record. They will forever be known as a “trans women”, regardless

[@bambilackner]

Those male records need to be stripped and wiped out. How do they expect real women to beat that.

[@ericziegler4271]

​@@somerandomchannel382 this isn't the change we need. Trans women need to make their own category or don't compete

[@AM-fv1it]

What next, someone will come and say they believe the earth is flat. Does that mean the rest of us have to believe in their delusions?

[@dea9457]

Just imagine 'trans woman' joins in women's boxing. How many women with true talent will be murdered?

[@dis7817]

It's happened in Paris just the other day, a man boxing against a woman.

[@Forever_Thatter]

Seeing that DUDE towering over those poor women on the podium is pure disgrace, smiling as if he achieved anything...

[@ronnie4796]

I agree 100% Laughable 😂

[@clarkmeyer7211]

My argument to the "there aren't that many trans athletes" is if they are so minimal then why are we changing the entire system to accommodate such a few people at the detriment to way many more.

[@len801]

Shhhh! Stop it! You're making sense and that MUST be racist or trans-phobic or something. 🤣🤣🤣

[@DailyCorvid]

There are not that many trans athletes.
That's the problem they are attacking.
They say 13 in the space of 5 years isn't a lot, I beg to differ...
5 years ago we had ZERO
4 years ago we had 3
1 year ago we had 6
Now we have 13 and each one of them has two apprentices so it's actually a growth rate of 6-9 new per year plus the original count of 13+growth(5 X 1.13) = in ten years time 100-150 new trans athletes per yeer.
That's almost a whole school of trans athletes per year. BLANKET BAN IT NOW.

[@metalcactuarjumpman7605]

This is completely unfair. I remember Pierce talking about a trans woman breaking a record and it pissed me off so much! Wanna compete? Compete with other Transgenders , don't ruin it for actual women just because you're not strong enough to compete with those of your own gender! It's pathetic!

[@weatherheaven4219]

I can’t believe Piers is even considering this conversation in any way.
The man will always come out on top in sports. Why don’t you take away the WNBA and see what happens to the women athletes. You would never see another woman on the floor because they would be getting smashed every single day. If you take the best men against the best women in any sport , other than target practice with a gun or something like that
there will never be a woman’s team that beats a man’s team. The best man against the best women wouldn’t even be close. That’s definitely not a knock on women. I’m trying to stand behind these women who have worked their whole lives to become the best athlete they can just to have it all taken away by cheating bullies. It just doesn’t seem fair or seem right to me. Maybe create some sort of a trans league.
When was the last time you saw a trans woman get into men’s sports? I can’t think of any example. It’s always the man who didn’t perform the way that they pleased when they were going up against other men who decided to take advantage of women, and they always end up doing better when they’re playing against the women.
But if you combine men and women’s sports, you would hardly see any women athletes ever playing professionally in any sport IF ever I’d be willing to say you probably wouldn’t find any
Serena Williams and Venus Williams played a man who was ranked in the hundreds or higher. I don’t know if it was on the same day but they got their butts kicked 6-0 6-1 and 6-0 6-0.
I believe in Texas, a high school soccer team played the US women’s championship team the Olympic team and the US women’s team got absolutely destroyed playing against 14 and 15 year-old boys There are so many more examples
And this is feminism today? It is so ass backwards, and I have three daughters, and this just makes me sick to my stomach.

[@wadindawali1549]

As a man please we welcome all trans athletes to come compete with us.

[@TheLeedsleedsleeds]

As they are really clits 🤣🤣

[@Scorpio-tn4vy]

They'd be too embarrassed soon as the event started..

[@gr33nm4n7]

[@cazformby5705]

That's because trans men are at a disadvantage from the start for the exact same reasons that trans women are advantaged Physiologically.

[@Tigra59]

Yep..trans women lease join your real sex

[@zoli11]

It still blows my mind that in 2023 *adults* have these discussions.

[@PoMpI_]

It's because they're making money out of it think about it!

[@johnmacleod6664]

It’s not a discussion. It’s another Piers Morgan monologue.
F$&@ he loves his voice. Whether you agree with someones opinion or not let them finish their bloody point!

[@Laburnus]

Thats what you get when you dont teach biology at school. These are really really basic things.
Same story with people that think earth is flat... What went wrong in some peoples education....

[@juno_the8774]

@@Laburnus transgenderism is recognised by biology; maybe it was you who never learnt anything.

[@Soph-ts9yb]

@@Laburnus some people say they believe the earth is flat in jest, as there is proven doctored photos produced by nasa. So we don’t really know what it does truly look like. And none of us will.

[@Qwertygerty123]

I feel so sorry that people’s minds are that distorted from reality and the way we’re are addressing it is cutting off body parts and going along with LIES to not hurt feelings.

[@calvaryapologetics]

0:22 Yes, this man, in my opinion is a huge embarrassment for my country. totally failed and made us a laughing stock.
I have no idea HOW this man actually qualified for the olympics.

[@JR-1983]

Be free to be who you want and identify as what you choose, just don't insist people think the same and make allowances for it.

[@joeblack1126]

Yes Trannies have been around forever they just did their own thing some people had a problem with mostly all religions not just Christian's but most off us didn't care and don't care now only when they demand yes demand full compliance with their I want, I must have, and it must be or else.

[@vladim73]

Of course gay/trans people should have the same rights as everyone else, but they don't get extra rights," Carson said at the time. "They don't get to redefine marriage." They take advantage of "political correctness."

[@letom.359]

indeed

[@kenp7814]

You have the "RIGHT" to live in any DeIuslon you choose
You "Do Not" have the right to force others to live in said DeIuslon

[@bumblerbumble9843]

Why did he have that fiddler on?

[@MJMJ-xd5sd]

When he said "or they just very good athlete" 8:03 I'm scared that female physical sports competition will never be the same. Ever.

[@Magerquark]

How is this even a debate? Are these people serious?

[@aesthete8033]

Magical thinking.

[@Magerquark]

@@aesthete8033 so weird to me. I didn't even know it is such a big topic over there in the US. I wonder how other countries do it?

[@ninaevans-lo9nh]

Unfortunately it has become a debate!

[@Gingerblaze]

Forced debate.

[@NateSpurs]

Victimhood culture, thats where all this nonsense stems from.

[@ahmadmaher4587]

What a messed up world we live in .. that’s all I can say

[@J_a_s_o_n]

West and Europe not the whole world

[@user-pd1oe1nd9x]

Peter Tatchell will never ever ever ever agree. He's too far gone into the whole ideology.

[@janysmahoney1271]

Thatchall don't even pass as a true man so what does he know about anything apart from always trying t get airtime.
Saw him on the Pro-palestian March the other day etc so he's everywhere where there's media involvement.

[@dianelemay3661]

Exactly they always say its TRANSPHOBIC, seems they only have that one word to try and make their case, it utterly ridiculous, thank goodness we have common sense ppl like Piers staying strong in keeping this issue out there, we back you 100% Piers, THANK YOU

[@jakinelson4007]

"Women are so much more than testosterone" Best line in this vid!

[@Christian-xt1up]

100%

[@ZER0--]

Yep. I've said that many times.

[@bukibakk6984]

Yes. They have No idea about the implications of what they are saying.

[@claudianreyn4529]

One other example: Creatine. Men store 17% more Creatine per body mass as women! Read about Creatine! It makes you so much more powerful.

[@Djfoo68]

Either I'm going mad or the world's going mad...😢😮

[@clintstoltz906]

😂

[@susanneherrmann1346]

I am a woman, I have an Uterus, get my period, transgender have it not. End of story!!!!!!

[@LMarshall73]

There are people that suggest that Serena Williams is the best tennis player to ever play the game. They must have forgotten about the exhibition match she played against a male that wasn't even in the top 100. She lost in a very convincing manner. She has even said she has no desire to compete against men.

[@richcampbell6808]

Serena was born male. 100% fooled the world.

[@tenniskinsella7768]

Lee Marshall best women player

[@LMarshall73]

@@tenniskinsella7768 Quite possibly, but there are those in the media (and activists) that insist she is the best ever, period.

[@YD-uq5fi]

She would rank about 500 among men, when she was at her peak. John McEnroe said as much.

[@danshotguns4226]

And the fact that she herself came out and said that if she faced Andy murray she would probably get beat in straight sets and he's not as legendary of a tennis player as she is... If we didn't have women's sports she wouldn't even exist.. As it is she is one of the best tennis players of all time because she competed in women's tennis.

[@MyDreamLife]

Creating a separate category is the only way to go to be fair.

[@kellypat125]

But do you advocate for this at the Olympics or World Championships level? It would be SO much easier to go to the Olympics and get medal in a trans category due to a lack of competitors and depth of talent among them. Or maybe hold a separate trans Olympics like paralympics. They would not like that, though, and it likely wouldn't get attention or airtime.

[@SomeKata]

@@kellypat125
"Give them their own league, they're cheaters!!!"
"they're the only one in their league! They cheated!"
so you just don't want them to exist, got it.
You think they won't have talent? I thought the argument was they were smashing women!?
the wishwashy arguments to serve everyone's own paradigm is exactly what they are.
Only 17% of transwomen even play sports at this point, you've been such dickheads about it almost none of them even want to play anymore and you're still crying your eyes out it's insane. literally none of the transwomen can even relate to your rage, they don't gat dum play any damned sports wtfd!? who even told you these people play sports!? the TV MAN? LOOOOOOL. 46% of females play sports, 67% of men play sports, and even 63% of transmen play sports, 17% of transwomen play sports, and you will NOT STFU OMFG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! On behalf of all transwomen, just kill the ones playing sports, literally none of the rest of us GIVE A FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF.

[@RatedRKalluSt4r]

​@Tab Ford trans and dsd people are biologically different from the two

[@michael-nb1bd]

Imagine how raunchy the opening ceremony at the Trans Olympics would be.

[@Christian-xt1up]

@@michael-nb1bd with all unnecessary escapades that do nothing but undermine the mental issues

[@Knightryder75]

Who would have ever thought people would be debating this

[@cableroinc-or4oq]

Not making it a blanket ban will create loopholes in the ruling. Why do we need to make life complicated by listening to them all over again

[@insiderreality491]

Isn't this the man who spoke about a 9 year old having sex with a grown man and said it was consensual and not up to him to judge?

[@basengelblik5199]

Who, which one?

[@MegaFraner]

@@basengelblik5199 Tatchel ha campaigned for years to have the age of consent lowered, he's a nonce.

[@liamoshea9383]

This guy is nuts, not wanting a blanket ban. On a side note, wouldn't that open up lawsuits

[@siegfriedbraun5447]

According to Tatchell, the newest sport will need to be "assessing each individual person's qualification" Patently ridiculous.

[@therealmrfishpaste]

Peter Tatchell also says that 'not all sexual encounters between minors and adults are wrong"....I'm nit sure his opinion should count...we know where he wants this to go....

[@willfishforfood8771]

The fact that this is even a conversation is absolutely insane. Where are all the REAL feminists. Stand the heck heck up for REAL women geese!!!!

[@naathnaath6377]

There's no such thing as a feminist.
Doesn't exist.

[@vtrandal]

Piers repeats himself like he’s not listening to his guests and what they’re saying.

[@thefreelancer1645]

So if there are no limits, Your telling me someone in thier 50's can identify as a child and play in playgrounds with other children and be included in thier activities. This is getting way out of hand and has to be stopped like yesterday. 🤦‍♂️

[@rosedemure5072]

I’m really tired of people saying it may take years of data with them competing to see if there is an unfair advantage. Yeah, at the expense of women. So hundreds of women have to lose out on scholarships and rightful placement before we can say.. “Oh okay, yeah, it’s unfair..sorry to all the women who were affected” We have to wait a few years, when all trans women are at the top of the leaderboards and all the records are set by them, to say.. “You know what, this isn’t fair” When I say this is misogyny in sheep’s clothing in plain sight. Some trans women only care about trans women.. not biological women. There’s a sense of entitlement and “give me what I want and that’s all that matters”

[@origami83]

all trans women should be removed from the leaderboards. We have to hit the reset button on this insanity.

[@ankavoskuilen1725]

All the information is already out there.

[@mcnzefili]

the irony is there's no such thing as trans; it's simply gender dysmorphia.

[@notaclue822]

Everybody knows they aren't women because if they really were women, nobody would care how they felt. I don't know how so many decision makers went along with this.

[@StellaAsh]

Tachel knows full well that post pubescent 'trans' competing against women is insane and certainly not 'fair'

[@ae-ribae6426]

Yes, and he always mentions this 'trans woman ' friend of his that plays in the women's football team, and is somehow the smallest?! Why doesn't he name this 'friend', who is obviously 'out' enough to be playing for a women's team! Otherwise, it's just another gaslighting bs claim.

[@redrag6949]

Whats wrong with this Thatchell dude ! Is he gay ?

[@a.m928]

​@@ae-ribae6426 not really in this debate and others everybody brings anecdotes of their friends. Both sides do this.
His suggestion of individualised judgement is bad and comes with a lot of issues. Such as determining whether somebody is suitable.

[@besthear3284]

Tachel has been accused for making supportive statements for paedophilic sexual encounters between children and adults. Just Google his name and paedophiles and see where that rabbit hole takes you.

[@joanofarc708]

He's a deviant

[@akar2755]

A pause until more investigation and proper policy etc is definitely good.
Imagine the issues faced if you don't wait, and you have a whole bunch of records set by the equivalent of other Lia Thomas trans athletes. What becomes of those records? Would they have to rescind them if policy changes? Caveat them in future record books? Try to get the medals back? Lol would be embarassing for everyone involved.

[@steverichardson4374]

This is not fair never will be

[@nimbusxd91]

Why is this even a discussion this world is done for smh

[@Zdub212]

10000000000%

[@WilliamLucas-of2gx]

Any excuse for beautiful wutiful Tatchy-Watchy imo. Beautiful in green ngl

[@JamieReynolds89]

too many freaks everywhere these days. only gonna get worse.

[@deshawn53988]

It’s good to have the discussion. That’s how you learn and evolve.

[@nimbusxd91]

@@deshawn53988 discussion of having men in women sports that is batshit crazy

[@BrianHayter-zl2uc]

Dumb is dumb, you cant fix stupid. Stupid is as stupid does.

[@RS-zj2sg]

Only someone who belongs in a loony bin would think there was no advantage!

[@leazy1618]

Like you said Piers just create an extra category for trans athletes to compete against trans athletes. What's wrong with that? Then they can compete, they get recognition, not exclusion.

[@potterj09]

completely agree there. Problem is they don't want to be a third category and will get upset that they can't just be whatever they think they're allowed to be.

[@DemanaJaire]

There's at least a few reasons why that's a bad idea.
1. Almost no one would watch it. Even know women's sport is not popular and for that reason woman athletes earn significantly less than man athletes.
2. There are two sexes. There is no third sex. If anything, there should be a category for only women, and a category for other people. Trans "women" are men and should compete with other men. Trans "men" are women who take an unhealthy amount of testosterone, and therefore they shouldn't be allowed to compete with women, and therefore welcomed in the "other people" category.
3. Trans rights activists would not be satisfied anyway. Their narrative is "trans women are women", not "trans women are trans women", and as long as we do not allow these men into women-only spaces, they won't stop, and therefore finding a common ground is pointless. The discussion is fruitless and we should stop being apologetic.

[@inessabanovic8491]

No one would watch it probably :D

[@iiTzKaran_YT]

@@potterj09 bruh this world needs a god

[@jack1d1XB]

​@@DemanaJaire SO,😊

[@khoyrulislam]

Isn't this the guy that said a 9yo boy can consent to a sexual relationship with a man??

[@its_rick_james_bich2575]

Really? I’ll have to look that up!

[@its_rick_james_bich2575]

And I looked it up!! Wow what absolute creep!! Why is it so many of these trans activists are sexual deviants and child groomers!

[@andrewdudson7750]

Yes he did and he supports maps

[@its_rick_james_bich2575]

@@andrewdudson7750 maps?

[@patrickdalton2424]

Yes he is a pedophile protector

[@bobbiechinn9578]

Doesn't matter what anyone says... Males against males, women against women. (That's a period at the end of the sentence.)

[@emilymiller3362]

A non gender category would be the best solution. That way that if a male or female or Trans or intersex wants to compete they can. This way everyone in the category knows what is happening.
I personally hate when I watch a sporting event especially a hard fought one to be discounted due to drug testing that will be debated long after the event.

[@rebeccabrohawn1002]

What's next? As a 41 year old woman can I say that I identify as a 6 year old child, and enroll in children's sports? If I "say" I'm a child I should be a child right? What if there aren't any specific rules that say adults can't play? I should be good to go!

[@ulfrinn8783]

Then how far off are you from having some pedophile say he identifies as a 12 year old boy to avoid spending a while in prison for sexually abusing a child.

[@krisquigley4497]

Right? That's the "logic" they're using.

[@daisiesandpandas1218]

They're coming...
It's called trans age.
Basically adults identifying as 10 year olds... It's starting the same way as the rest of the community did, they calling it a mental illness and a response to trauma first so the public allows the Trojan horse in... And pretty soon it won't be a mental illness but something anyone can do.
There's a dude on RUclips identifying as a 10 year old girl, with adoptive parents.

[@its_rick_james_bich2575]

Peter Thatchell in this video (ironically a human rights activist) is also one of those who believes the legal age of sex should be lowered. He believes there is nothing wrong with a 9 year old having sex if it’s “consensual”…link below from 2015 interview..
ruclips.net/video/Mr_Xf0wupyM/видео.html

[@maeamaille]

You're the most dangerous sort of stupid. You're comparing gender dysphoria (a real thing) and dumb shit like " if I say I'm a unicorn then am I?" bullshit. it's a dumb and tired argument. What's next is the next generation won't be as awful. Every group has had to endure prejudice to be free and this is no different

[@blakesleyk.7166]

There’s this pathological need for attention. Then there’s the rampant, vile misogyny. A team of their own is a 1st step in protecting women.

[@orgonewarrior1604]

Exactly, the first response is to make more drama...

[@ulfrinn8783]

Why bother? Recognize them for the gender they are (male in this case) and if they can't compete against other men, tough shit. That's life. We've wasted too much energy on this mess when the solution really is that simple. Stop pretending men are women, and suddenly these problems disappear.

[@madinfouru2624]

Misogyny? Most of the supporters of this garbage are feminsits, aka misandrists.

[@madinfouru2624]

If a man is a misogynistic person he sure as fk is NOT supporting men being women. Your comment is pretty ignorant

[@Songbirdstress]

They are incredibly misogynist. They LIKE it.

[@cleanslate2004]

This guy uses outliers, the smallest demographic to argue for men in women's sports. It shouldn't be a surprise since the fringe being the smallest demographic on either side has been doing this regularly.

[@user-eo2or9od2y]

Does not matter if they are smaller or bigger, the fact that they are males by form and bone mass should not compete in womens sports.

[@themuse11]

No one ever mentions the Q angle, women's hips are wider, leading to a major difference in running gait, swimming propulsion, leg strength... The lower Q angle of males makes all those things more efficient / stronger for them. Women's leg design (specifically hip to knee) makes them more prone to knee and hip injuries also. There is no way in hell men should be trying to play in women's sports.

[@Shaolin91z]

Yes they should. Trans women are women. 🤭

[@AdamSpenceVC]

The issue is even more simple. No need to talk about testosterone levels, Q angles, etc. Biological men are men and biological women are women. It's so obvious even a small child can tell you.

[@bessmay5353]

@@Shaolin91z nope never! No drugs, surgeries or make up makes a trans women anything but a trans women.

[@jaijai5250]

@@Shaolin91z NO, they’re not women. When trans people are self identifying, they’re forgetting that identity is also about how one is perceived by others (society).
A trans woman is a biological male. The definition, and experiences of male/man needs to be broadened to include them. Trans women have absolutely nothing to do with women and girls.

[@jennag3226]

​@@bessmay5353 That shoalin dude is trolling😂

[@louisewhalley3499]

This is yet another slap in the face for women . Amelia talks so much sense .

[@tenniskinsella7768]

And if anyone says to my face I'm a cis woman I might hit them.

[@Janet7144]

Individual assessment CANNOT work, it's ridiculous, it has to be an across the board ruling.

[@RaptorJesussss]

Im part of the LGBT+ community but I don’t agree with trans women competing in woman’s sports. No amount of transitioning can erase male characteristics that create advantages.

[@spikey288]

All of this could be avoided if we just reject the delusional premise.

[@esthellakomerl8084]

Absolutely. 👏

[@ponygirl1716]

Surprisingly few people with any sort of power have the courage. It's shameful.

[@donnastark3101]

Yes, blanket ban. Note that it’s never about trans men wanting to break into men’s sports.
Some women will have a physical advantage within their sport, just as some men have physical advantage in their sport.
Trans can have their own league.

[@nicomeier8098]

If there is not going to be a blanket ban, the selection should not be based upon "proven advantage" but proven to not have an advantage.

[@baturbaturs]

Blanket ban is vital and I agree with Piers and the Lady.

[@supergran1000]

How Amelia Strickler kept her cool I'll never know.

[@sylviam6535]

The man was a complete weasel.

[@stanbily9416]

@@sylviam6535 Yeah, no he was not. He is entitled to believe what he wants, the same way you, granny, Amelia and many others are entitled to believe what you want. I am not going to call you a “weasel” for having a different viewpoint.

[@sylviam6535]

@@stanbily9416 - 19% of Gen Z identify as non-binary, which is a huge number of people. This person wants to basically send an army of doctors giving each trans a full evaluation in every metric in which men and women are different (at least 100 features according to medical science). In the case of growing bodies, I guess we repeat that every year. He’s suggesting something that is totally undoable in practice (and he probably knows that) in order to be politically correct, which makes him a weasel.

[@anaserrot6620]

👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

[@dexine4723]

@@stanbily9416 Ah, but do you know what his viewpoints are, particularly when it comes to children? Calling him a weasel is quite polite.

[@maoulidatoueni]

Madness is the new norm

[@david2804me]

Tatchell's views about looking at individual cases and their sizes etc, instead of simply applying the basic gender rule to everyone, is highly mis-guided. It shows that he has no understanding of sport, no regard for the women who make their living from it and that his knowledge of basic biology is deficient regarding the physiological differences between the genders. He is simply not worth consulting on this question because he clearly has no expertise relevant to it at all. There has always been a very fundamental irrefutable justification for separating men's and women's sports and no amount of gender dysphoria, or anyone's desire to cheat, should ever be allowed to change that. Keep men out of women's sports.

[@stolenorange]

Some women are stronger than others. The weaker ones can't compete. This doesn't equate to an "unfair advantage" it's just nature. Same with anyone else. If you can't compete against your own sex, tough luck. That's life.

[@Shaolin91z]

Trans women are women🤭

[@andreasrumpf9012]

@@Shaolin91z Trans women are men.

[@bessmay5353]

Men are not women. Males are not females. Trans women are not women. Nothing else to say. Separate trans women athletes into their own catagory.

[@johnc3525]

@@Shaolin91z Transwomen are transwomen.

[@megsley]

​@@Shaolin91z proof? please cite real sources.

[@rickvice2313]

When this guys says “no blanket ban it has to fair for everyone” he obviously isn’t considering the women who have to compete against people with a unfair advantage.

[@RatedRKalluSt4r]

The trans women who would be excluded from the ban wouldn't have an advantage... that's kinda the point.

[@origami83]

@@RatedRKalluSt4r men pretending to be woman dont have periods every month. So they already have that advantage.

[@dingdong289]

Why do no trans men compete in male sports ? Exactly. !!

[@SanctusObscurum]

This was the most calm and fair I've seen piers behave in these interviews. I really respect that he didn't throw the convo into absurdity like suggesting a trans person will try to identify as a tree, and didn't simply talk and shout over everyone like he usually does. This wad an actual serious and respectful conversation about the topic, which is how it should be

[@withindarkness]

Periods alone have huge, complex effects on womens ability and methods of training. Some athletes will change strength programming based on where they are in their cycle.

[@dyates6380]

We are literally living in the Bizarro world. We have lost our F#CKING minds.

[@lollywilson7880]

So true love this comment 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@maeamaille]

yea it's this and not all the fucked up shit that non-queer people do. did we lose our minds when the majority of gun deaths were inflicted by family members or when the Nazis organized a genocide of the Jews? was it the gay conversion camps? mormonism or scientology? No! this! people just exercising their right to live freely as themselves without hurting anyone is your tipping point? STFU

[@grahammcguire6158]

Why not have 2 categories a female competition and an open competition for all genders

[@cepamor]

Why is it always guys who transition wanting to compete against the biological females, but rarely if ever do see gals who transition looking to compete against biological males? 😯