Just about to start my final year law with the OU-EU and optional (two half modules). I have loved it all, apart from the Equity, Trusts and Land collaborative TMA. Yep, that was grim. Other than that, can't fault them. Well done for getting through it!
Hi! Don’t worry, we got a bad egg in the group who tried to derail us. But we got through it. I'd advise you to prepare to put in some extra work as many groups inevitably get at least one member who doesn't pull their weight - or you might be lucky. It’s definitely a challenge of the course, but once it's done, it's done. Good luck!
Just this week, I've thought about doing a part time Law degree. I graduated first time around in 1993 and winding down towards early retirement at 60. Obviously not going to be practising Law after. Online OU Law seems to be a nice new challenge. Thanks for the video. So my question, OU Law degree is pretty the same as any other UK Law degree, 'reputations' aside - it doesn't have any limitations/ bad points to consider please?
Thanks for this Dan, I am just about to start my LLB and hoping to go down the SQE route to be a solicitor. Did you ever do two modules at a time? Wondering what the work load was like thinking of doing this for level 1.
Interesting Video, I start my course in October, 120 credits per year. I haven't decided which route I will take for level 3, they now offer 3 routes, SQE, Barrister or Academic.
Hey mate, looking at the LLB Law, and wondered if there is any sort of face to face or trips. I read on the OU website, that some courses have this. Is Law one of them?
I’ve just completed the old pathway Q79, and there were no external trips or visits to campus in Milton Keynes so I’m not sure the new pathway R81 will have any. There were face to face tutorials which were normally local depending on where people are based, however these were stopped due to Covid, but I’ve heard whispers they would like to bring these back and run them alongside online tutorials but whether this will happen remains to be seen. The OU has a law society which you can join, before covid they ran mooting workshops around the country and also participated in mooting competitions, however this isn’t mandatory but can be useful especially if you’re looking at becoming a barrister
Hi Dan, This is a god-send video! Here's why: I too am looking to do an online law degree, with flexibility, simply to get some knowledge in it with no desire to practice. So I'm currently conflicted between doing OU, ULAW, Nottingham Trent, Essex Online and Leeds Beckett... do you recommend any of the others I've listed? I'm a bit conflicted on doing OU because it seems to be the least rated/reviewed across the board and the most 'off-hands' type of approach? But maybe that's just a negative perception spread through the internet..idk. You said you felt supported and good at OU? What was bad about it? Where didn't things go well? Any advice/guidance would be essential! Thanks a mil!
Hi, good luck with your journey whatever you choose. I can’t really comment on the other providers, however, I would take a guess and assume that most of them start from a more advanced stage than the OU and possibly require A-Levels. Because the OU doesn’t require A Levels, it does start off slowly, teaching students how to write both legal essays and answers to problem questions as well as referencing as well. Level 1 with the OU can feel a little slow if you’re already ok with essay writing and referencing and generally have an ability to research and be self-disciplined with reading. However, from level 2 onwards it does become more academically challenging, but I would say most of the teaching is done through online activities and reading over being taught by a tutor. When I started the OU the in person tutorials were really good, but covid put a stop to them and the online tutorials for law I didn’t think really cut it. I would say the other institutions would probably be a little more academically demanding hence why some may regard them higher than the OU, but as mentioned that’s mainly because the OU starts off slow to enable anyone to enrol. To combat this, the OU also have higher grade boundaries so that you know you’ve earned the grade you get. For example, at other universities, you generally need 70% to get a first, but at the OU you need to achieve 85%. I enjoyed the OU but I’m very much a self-learner who can dictate my own learning with the material I’m given. If you prefer having more of a taught experience then one of the other institutions may be better. The OU has recently revamped their law degree so it now offers more options which I think is a positive thing. I also think the online module websites are great, user friendly and interactive. I’ve heard other online providers can sometimes fall short here as they aren’t geared up for distance learning (or it’s not their main way of teaching) so their online platforms can be hard to work with, whereas the OU has been doing distance learning for years so they’ve perfected the delivery of this. Feel free to ask any other questions
Just got my Criminal and Tort law text books last week ready to start in October. Choosing to do 2 modules per year whilst working full time.. Hope it will be manageable! Do you have any tips for getting ahead or managing time?
Good luck! Level 1 is the time to experiment and work out your learning style as it doesn’t count towards your degree classification you just need to pass the modules. For me, I started out writing loads of notes, which I realised wasn’t that helpful. What I found useful was having a separate notebook for case law and legislation, but the key was not to write too much information down about the cases, all you really need is the case name, and the legal principe it represents. I also read the TMA questions in advance and noted down the topic so that when I came across that topic in the module materials I paid more attention to it and made more extensive notes. Finally, if you do find you have spare time, looking up relevant legal articles and journals on the OU library can help get used to reading articles (there will be a lot of that at level 2 and 3) but also gave me some good ideas on how to write my own essays
@@DanUniAndBooks thank you! I very much appreciate your helpful response. It’s been a while since I was last in ‘education’ so the essay writing was one thing I wanted to look at!
Thank you 😊 unfortunately I missed out by a few % on my last module, however the OU have now changed their classification rules so under the new rules I would have got a first, but I’m still pretty happy with my 2:1 😊
Hey this has been very useful, the EMA is this multiple choice? I’m thinking of doing a law degree with OU, is the law degree hard? I want to go down the pathway of becoming a barista any advise tips pleaseeeeeee
Hi. There are no books for W340, it’s all online on the module website, although there is a lot of looking up journal articles for reading and independent research and reading
Hi there, I am currently at Strathclyde University, but I'm considering switching to the Open University due to my health. I would have 120 credits from my first year which would mean I could commence my studies at Stage 2 at the Open Uni. I was wondering what the essay style writing is like as I am used to the way my current university teaches it, moreover, does the OU use oscula referencing, as I do atm? Thank you.
The university itself states that students should be ‘confident’ with reading, writing, speaking and listening with regards to the English language. So while I’d say you need not be 100% fluent, I would say a good understanding is needed, as when you reach level 2 and 3 there is a large amount of reading which includes both case law and statutes which can be very ‘wordy’
Hey Dan! Thanks for the great video, very helpful! I have a question - if I would finish my LLB at the Open University - can I study afterwards at the Masters LLB at Oxford? Do traditional universities like Oxford, Cambridge etc accept the Open University degree for further studies, such as Masters?
Hi. As far as I’m aware most universities accept OU degrees as prerequisites as an Open University degree is still a bachelors degree just gained at the OU. A master of laws would be an LLM, although I’ve had a quick look at Oxfords website and couldn’t find any LLMs just a MSc in law and finance, and the entry requirements just state an undergraduate degree in law with first class honours (or high second class honours). Therefore, I can’t see why you couldn’t get into Oxford or Cambridge to study a masters if you gained a first class LLB from the Open University. Also more prestigious universities like Oxford/Cambridge May have additional entry requirements for masters programmes such as relevant work experience, but all entry requirements should be listed on the institutions website under course details.
I did study part time. Level 1 was fine no problem and could have probably studied full time. Level 2 was a step up but still managed no problem. Level 3 was another step up with a lot more reading and there were occasions I’d fall a week behind or so but just about managed with some additional time management in place
Not anymore. It was what I wanted to do when I started 5 years ago but circumstances have changed and the short of it is that I can’t afford to take a pay drop to start at the bottom anymore. However, I’m still glad I studied law as it’s a fascinating subject that I’ve used in a number of day to day scenarios as well as learnt a few skills which I didn’t have before. Who knows one day if circumstances change again I’ll look into it
If you want to study an LLM at a US or Canadian institution I can’t see why it wouldn’t be valid. If you’re looking at various institutions I would suggest looking at their entry requirements. I believe the US is more strict if you want to practice law, but from quick research it should still be able to study an LLM at a US institution with a UK degree, which is what the OU degree is
Just about to start my final year law with the OU-EU and optional (two half modules). I have loved it all, apart from the Equity, Trusts and Land collaborative TMA. Yep, that was grim. Other than that, can't fault them. Well done for getting through it!
Thank you and good luck for the final year. I found the EMA for EU law was a lot more difficult than the TMAs but that’s just me 😆
Hi, what was it about the collaborative tma for w302 that went wrong? I’m about to start this tma now so feeling anxious not to mess it up
Hi! Don’t worry, we got a bad egg in the group who tried to derail us. But we got through it. I'd advise you to prepare to put in some extra work as many groups inevitably get at least one member who doesn't pull their weight - or you might be lucky. It’s definitely a challenge of the course, but once it's done, it's done. Good luck!
This video is the most helpful I have found thank you.
Thank you, glad it was helpful 😊
Im starting in few weeks thanks for the book tips 🎉
Good luck 🤞 the course has changed slightly since I did it but I’m sure you’ll enjoy it
@@DanUniAndBooks thanks mate I'm 45yo I'm hoping I can do it lol 🙏
@@tingtong1172 anything is possible if you want it. I had a guy in his 60s on my second module and he was doing just as good as everyone else 😊
@@DanUniAndBooks thanks mate 👍
Well done for completing the LLB mate, nice summary of the degree. Just completed W350 (Legal research) and on my last TMA for W330 (EU Law).
Thanks mate. Same here just got W330 EMA to go, and I can safely say it looks horrific but on the last stretch now. Good luck with the EMA
@@DanUniAndBooks it is but its doable , I'm half way through. Cheers pal best of luck with your masters.
Just this week, I've thought about doing a part time Law degree. I graduated first time around in 1993 and winding down towards early retirement at 60. Obviously not going to be practising Law after. Online OU Law seems to be a nice new challenge. Thanks for the video. So my question, OU Law degree is pretty the same as any other UK Law degree, 'reputations' aside - it doesn't have any limitations/ bad points to consider please?
Thanks for posting. That was hugely helpful and informative. 👍
Thanks for this Dan, I am just about to start my LLB and hoping to go down the SQE route to be a solicitor. Did you ever do two modules at a time? Wondering what the work load was like thinking of doing this for level 1.
Interesting Video, I start my course in October, 120 credits per year. I haven't decided which route I will take for level 3, they now offer 3 routes, SQE, Barrister or Academic.
Hey mate, looking at the LLB Law, and wondered if there is any sort of face to face or trips. I read on the OU website, that some courses have this. Is Law one of them?
I’ve just completed the old pathway Q79, and there were no external trips or visits to campus in Milton Keynes so I’m not sure the new pathway R81 will have any. There were face to face tutorials which were normally local depending on where people are based, however these were stopped due to Covid, but I’ve heard whispers they would like to bring these back and run them alongside online tutorials but whether this will happen remains to be seen. The OU has a law society which you can join, before covid they ran mooting workshops around the country and also participated in mooting competitions, however this isn’t mandatory but can be useful especially if you’re looking at becoming a barrister
Hi Dan,
This is a god-send video! Here's why: I too am looking to do an online law degree, with flexibility, simply to get some knowledge in it with no desire to practice. So I'm currently conflicted between doing OU, ULAW, Nottingham Trent, Essex Online and Leeds Beckett... do you recommend any of the others I've listed?
I'm a bit conflicted on doing OU because it seems to be the least rated/reviewed across the board and the most 'off-hands' type of approach? But maybe that's just a negative perception spread through the internet..idk. You said you felt supported and good at OU? What was bad about it? Where didn't things go well?
Any advice/guidance would be essential! Thanks a mil!
Hi, good luck with your journey whatever you choose. I can’t really comment on the other providers, however, I would take a guess and assume that most of them start from a more advanced stage than the OU and possibly require A-Levels.
Because the OU doesn’t require A Levels, it does start off slowly, teaching students how to write both legal essays and answers to problem questions as well as referencing as well.
Level 1 with the OU can feel a little slow if you’re already ok with essay writing and referencing and generally have an ability to research and be self-disciplined with reading. However, from level 2 onwards it does become more academically challenging, but I would say most of the teaching is done through online activities and reading over being taught by a tutor.
When I started the OU the in person tutorials were really good, but covid put a stop to them and the online tutorials for law I didn’t think really cut it.
I would say the other institutions would probably be a little more academically demanding hence why some may regard them higher than the OU, but as mentioned that’s mainly because the OU starts off slow to enable anyone to enrol. To combat this, the OU also have higher grade boundaries so that you know you’ve earned the grade you get. For example, at other universities, you generally need 70% to get a first, but at the OU you need to achieve 85%.
I enjoyed the OU but I’m very much a self-learner who can dictate my own learning with the material I’m given. If you prefer having more of a taught experience then one of the other institutions may be better.
The OU has recently revamped their law degree so it now offers more options which I think is a positive thing. I also think the online module websites are great, user friendly and interactive. I’ve heard other online providers can sometimes fall short here as they aren’t geared up for distance learning (or it’s not their main way of teaching) so their online platforms can be hard to work with, whereas the OU has been doing distance learning for years so they’ve perfected the delivery of this.
Feel free to ask any other questions
@@DanUniAndBooks thank you so much! This has provided the right amount of perspective I needed to have a more informed decision. A million thanks.
Just got my Criminal and Tort law text books last week ready to start in October. Choosing to do 2 modules per year whilst working full time.. Hope it will be manageable! Do you have any tips for getting ahead or managing time?
Good luck! Level 1 is the time to experiment and work out your learning style as it doesn’t count towards your degree classification you just need to pass the modules. For me, I started out writing loads of notes, which I realised wasn’t that helpful. What I found useful was having a separate notebook for case law and legislation, but the key was not to write too much information down about the cases, all you really need is the case name, and the legal principe it represents.
I also read the TMA questions in advance and noted down the topic so that when I came across that topic in the module materials I paid more attention to it and made more extensive notes.
Finally, if you do find you have spare time, looking up relevant legal articles and journals on the OU library can help get used to reading articles (there will be a lot of that at level 2 and 3) but also gave me some good ideas on how to write my own essays
@@DanUniAndBooks thank you! I very much appreciate your helpful response. It’s been a while since I was last in ‘education’ so the essay writing was one thing I wanted to look at!
Me too! Stressed out already and haven’t even done anything yet…
Really helpful, thank you. Did you get your 1st?
Thank you 😊 unfortunately I missed out by a few % on my last module, however the OU have now changed their classification rules so under the new rules I would have got a first, but I’m still pretty happy with my 2:1 😊
@@DanUniAndBooks so frustrating :/
Hey this has been very useful, the EMA is this multiple choice? I’m thinking of doing a law degree with OU, is the law degree hard? I want to go down the pathway of becoming a barista any advise tips pleaseeeeeee
Hi what books do they provide for W340 please
Hi. There are no books for W340, it’s all online on the module website, although there is a lot of looking up journal articles for reading and independent research and reading
Hi there, I am currently at Strathclyde University, but I'm considering switching to the Open University due to my health. I would have 120 credits from my first year which would mean I could commence my studies at Stage 2 at the Open Uni. I was wondering what the essay style writing is like as I am used to the way my current university teaches it, moreover, does the OU use oscula referencing, as I do atm? Thank you.
Idid it for fun lol your a legend 🎉😅
Do I need to know good English to follow the specific study program (because I am from Greece )
The university itself states that students should be ‘confident’ with reading, writing, speaking and listening with regards to the English language. So while I’d say you need not be 100% fluent, I would say a good understanding is needed, as when you reach level 2 and 3 there is a large amount of reading which includes both case law and statutes which can be very ‘wordy’
Hey Dan!
Thanks for the great video, very helpful!
I have a question - if I would finish my LLB at the Open University - can I study afterwards at the Masters LLB at Oxford?
Do traditional universities like Oxford, Cambridge etc accept the Open University degree for further studies, such as Masters?
Hi. As far as I’m aware most universities accept OU degrees as prerequisites as an Open University degree is still a bachelors degree just gained at the OU. A master of laws would be an LLM, although I’ve had a quick look at Oxfords website and couldn’t find any LLMs just a MSc in law and finance, and the entry requirements just state an undergraduate degree in law with first class honours (or high second class honours). Therefore, I can’t see why you couldn’t get into Oxford or Cambridge to study a masters if you gained a first class LLB from the Open University. Also more prestigious universities like Oxford/Cambridge May have additional entry requirements for masters programmes such as relevant work experience, but all entry requirements should be listed on the institutions website under course details.
@@DanUniAndBooks thank you very much Dan❤️
I’m guessing you studied part time because you worked as well? How do you find managing both ?
I did study part time. Level 1 was fine no problem and could have probably studied full time. Level 2 was a step up but still managed no problem. Level 3 was another step up with a lot more reading and there were occasions I’d fall a week behind or so but just about managed with some additional time management in place
@@DanUniAndBooks Thanks for your help. I appreciate your videos
Do you plan to become a solicitor?
Not anymore. It was what I wanted to do when I started 5 years ago but circumstances have changed and the short of it is that I can’t afford to take a pay drop to start at the bottom anymore. However, I’m still glad I studied law as it’s a fascinating subject that I’ve used in a number of day to day scenarios as well as learnt a few skills which I didn’t have before. Who knows one day if circumstances change again I’ll look into it
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Is Open university degree valid for LLM In USA or Canada please reply
If you want to study an LLM at a US or Canadian institution I can’t see why it wouldn’t be valid. If you’re looking at various institutions I would suggest looking at their entry requirements. I believe the US is more strict if you want to practice law, but from quick research it should still be able to study an LLM at a US institution with a UK degree, which is what the OU degree is
So can you study sqe at the open university then 😂