I'm glad to hear it from someone I admire, and feel exactly the same word by word...no one really chooses to grasp and be aware of certain things, so you have to do it your way, try and if there's some "success" share whatever may come with it, with people who appreciate it...
only if we talk about making it in the artsy world of fame dedication, discipline can take you very far if you wish to become a good, well-balanced man who has a positive effect on people around them
@@rayaqin it can, but realizing what you are good at and not good at is a very important thing - that is the point being made here, if you ask me. I know a lot of people, including myself, who remember something from school, from court, from 'places of intelligence and understanding', and thought ''that person should never have worked in this field'', and find a lot of common ground with others who have had dealings with the same person. Some people shouldn't be teachers, but work their whole lives, dedicate all their time to become one, only to destroy the students more than to teach them. The same could be said for Police officers, for example. Just take your pick, really. Somewhere along any profession, there are people who are misplaced and will reject any notion that they are.
it's very difficult to establish where ends one thing and begin the other one. I don't believe that every person who succeed in the realm of art is 100 % talented. Of course a Leonardo Da Vinci, a Beethoven, a Freddie Mercury or a J. S. Bach belongs to another superior and celestial category. From here derives that even talent had a hierarchical pyramid structure. And thus, sometimes people less talented than others but with a strong determination could sometimes going further than a talented with alcohol or drug addiction problems. The X factor, luck and contacts plays a very determining role as well.
I don't agree, the first thing it comes to my mind is van gogh who spent his whole life without recognition. But I agree, it`s a shot in the dark and this is so appealing, almost all of us dreams of escaping the rat race and do what we really want to do, but we're too scared.
Not everyone is Van Gogh or the other few geniuses who made it. Most People will aim their shot into the abyss that we call death, thus being forgotten, forever.
I did a quick search on the internet, and I found that Gogh did receive a level of recognition during the last two years of life. Though, you have good point. One must art a fair shot, by giving it your life, for what could be nothing.
You contradict yourself. The distinction on the values in the human experience is useful. Whether it be in the majority or minority as it pertains to virtue or morality is another argument. I’ll be generous to you however, even though you are impolite. I’d offer to you that the value of friendship and family exceeds the narcissistic appetites of booze, cigarettes, prostitutes, and fame.
Well, dedication doesn't guarantee talent or success, sure. But talent without dedication definitely guarantees failure because you never finish anything. I've met so many talented useless people who never achieved anything. And the opposite: talentless and lame people who went far just by sheer dedication alone.
People live 8-5 jobs with their family and still arent misserable as this dude. Family is fulfillment this dude was too bitter and egoistic to see that.
He had a sadness with him from the start, he saw the fragility of the human being, but instead of letting that feeling take over him and become an existencialist writer, he turned to alcohol, cigarrettes and whores. The life you mentioned is great for most people, but it wasn't for him.
Yeah. Creating a family and putting another person in this world just to fullfil your desires are not egotistic. The loners are the egotistical ones... ahh go f yourselves, people your are dumb as an ape.
@@gs3-o4f Only if you work a shitty job and have a family that doesn't love you. The nature of 8-5 and having a family isn't miserable. It's completely opposite.
I've seen it differently. Really dedicated people who just don't have the talent. Doing more of something that isn't working isn't likely to bring results. The saying, throw enough mud at a wall and some of it sticks is rarely true. And I've seen people with talent and little dedication get results easily. You've gotta find something you are good at, or decent at, and then put in the dedication ❤
No, for example there are plenty of dedicated guitarist that cannot pay their rent. There is a multitude of dedicated people in any endeavour you care to name. We will never know anything of these people because they do not have the talent to rise above the rest.
lol you need dedication regardless because the inherent nature of talent is that most people don’t have it
But sometimes we’re dedicated to the wrong thing. Something we’re not good at, or something that isn’t profitable to us.
I'm glad to hear it from someone I admire, and feel exactly the same word by word...no one really chooses to grasp and be aware of certain things, so you have to do it your way, try and if there's some "success" share whatever may come with it, with people who appreciate it...
Finally somebody who's said it! Everyone's always yapping about hard work and dedication and discipline, but without talent it's a useless endeavour!
only if we talk about making it in the artsy world of fame
dedication, discipline can take you very far if you wish to become a good, well-balanced man who has a positive effect on people around them
@@rayaqin it can, but realizing what you are good at and not good at is a very important thing - that is the point being made here, if you ask me.
I know a lot of people, including myself, who remember something from school, from court, from 'places of intelligence and understanding', and thought ''that person should never have worked in this field'', and find a lot of common ground with others who have had dealings with the same person.
Some people shouldn't be teachers, but work their whole lives, dedicate all their time to become one, only to destroy the students more than to teach them.
The same could be said for Police officers, for example.
Just take your pick, really.
Somewhere along any profession, there are people who are misplaced and will reject any notion that they are.
2:53 hey, it started raining
it's very difficult to establish where ends one thing and begin the other one. I don't believe that every person who succeed in the realm of art is 100 % talented. Of course a Leonardo Da Vinci, a Beethoven, a Freddie Mercury or a J. S. Bach belongs to another superior and celestial category. From here derives that even talent had a hierarchical pyramid structure. And thus, sometimes people less talented than others but with a strong determination could sometimes going further than a talented with alcohol or drug addiction problems. The X factor, luck and contacts plays a very determining role as well.
Wow
I don't agree, the first thing it comes to my mind is van gogh who spent his whole life without recognition. But I agree, it`s a shot in the dark and this is so appealing, almost all of us dreams of escaping the rat race and do what we really want to do, but we're too scared.
you're right
Van Gogh sucked,the only reason he got famous was because he died
Not everyone is Van Gogh or the other few geniuses who made it. Most People will aim their shot into the abyss that we call death, thus being forgotten, forever.
I did a quick search on the internet, and I found that Gogh did receive a level of recognition during the last two years of life. Though, you have good point. One must art a fair shot, by giving it your life, for what could be nothing.
Van goh has nothing to do with anything he was talking about. Van goh had talent. He's saying if you don't your dedication won't be enough.
Es ist ein Unterschied ob man ein Spinner ist oder ein Spin ER anders herum Geheimnis ❤❤❤❤
hi grandma! c'mon in!
Sharing Christmas with a wife and children at my parents house? Sounds like a good life to me.
For me too
You haven’t met my ex’s parents then, fucking torture …
and everybody has to like doing that cause you do?
that's the point. he's making a distinction between himself and the majority. you are positing nothing useful by saying this
You contradict yourself. The distinction on the values in the human experience is useful. Whether it be in the majority or minority as it pertains to virtue or morality is another argument. I’ll be generous to you however, even though you are impolite. I’d offer to you that the value of friendship and family exceeds the narcissistic appetites of booze, cigarettes, prostitutes, and fame.
Well, dedication doesn't guarantee talent or success, sure. But talent without dedication definitely guarantees failure because you never finish anything. I've met so many talented useless people who never achieved anything. And the opposite: talentless and lame people who went far just by sheer dedication alone.
shame bukowski wasn't talented, just dedicated.
Well, it was enought to live the life he want...
Lol. I loved his poetry.
Thats a talent.
How was he not talented
He definitely had talent as a writer.
People live 8-5 jobs with their family and still arent misserable as this dude. Family is fulfillment this dude was too bitter and egoistic to see that.
He had a sadness with him from the start, he saw the fragility of the human being, but instead of letting that feeling take over him and become an existencialist writer, he turned to alcohol, cigarrettes and whores. The life you mentioned is great for most people, but it wasn't for him.
Yeah. Creating a family and putting another person in this world just to fullfil your desires are not egotistic. The loners are the egotistical ones... ahh go f yourselves, people your are dumb as an ape.
The 8 to 5 and family life is a miserable existence for many people.
Family is not fulfillment for everybody
@@gs3-o4f Only if you work a shitty job and have a family that doesn't love you. The nature of 8-5 and having a family isn't miserable. It's completely opposite.
Rubbish. Dedication is key. Talent is neither here nor there.
I've seen it differently. Really dedicated people who just don't have the talent. Doing more of something that isn't working isn't likely to bring results. The saying, throw enough mud at a wall and some of it sticks is rarely true. And I've seen people with talent and little dedication get results easily. You've gotta find something you are good at, or decent at, and then put in the dedication ❤
@EponaDreams-AmbientDreamscapes actually I agree 👍
He said it more like a warning I suppose.
No, for example there are plenty of dedicated guitarist that cannot pay their rent. There is a multitude of dedicated people in any endeavour you care to name. We will never know anything of these people because they do not have the talent to rise above the rest.
@gs3-o4f you're right my friend