"..I don't know what I am...I'm going to the bathroom.." If that doesn't completely and accidentally sum up the human existence, I do not know what does.
Hey, I'm curious: why did you guys use this video and not have Patrick Smith or another animator make one? Don't get me wrong, I'm glad this version is getting the recognition it deserves, but it's not the style y'all are known for. I was really excited to see a video on Buk, but I was a little disappointed it was a re-upload and not a typical "Blank on Blank" video. That aside, I gotta say: I love y'all's content and how y'all are presenting these almost lost interviews.
@yeahSOwhat And the second thing guaranteed in life is that the sun will go up, and will go down , and then up again. And what does it matter of were all going to die in the end? Might as well do the things you love to do and not worry about tomorrow.
@yeahSOwhat what? I didn't mean it that way at all. I just meant if we're all gonna die, and in this case in a hospital crying in pain, it's better to know you lived your life to the fullest than to regret knowing you lived your whole life afraid and not doing he things you wanted to do.
Shaun McRoberts well he’s alcoholic or has depression. If he’s an alcoholic the only enjoyment he’s chasing is that drink. If he’s depressed he’s not casing anything. He’s doing what he enjoys which is the best part. And that is writing. He’s probably just feels alone and doesn’t have anyone he can vent to one on one
"our educational system tells us that we can all be big-ass winners. it hasn't told us about the gutters or the suicides. or the terror of one person aching in one place alone untouched unspoken to watering a plant." If color could manifest itself as words, this man's palette was incredible.
@matthew austin please shut up. I never said it sucked. I said it is not poetry. I am sick of seeing people call anything poetry with line breaks. If that is true then I can add line breaks to this post and call it a poem. If what you Are saying is true then all experts who use the wrong way as a stepping stone to show the right why is shitting on others. All experts do it. What it seems like you are trying to do is plant negative seeds in commenters heads about me in order to kill my writing career cause u went to my RUclips and got jealous of my skill in writing. You are hoping others will agree with you due to any prejudice or jealousy they may also have of my work on my channel. I am not going to engage in your jet I mind tricks to make me think I got to agree with your feedback or I am wrong. Are you really saying there is no such thing as experts in writing? I bet if I was world famous (which doesn't take real talent) you wouldnt say that. You should know most genuis and experts in writing, are not even famous. Also many well established even prize winning writers have said his work is prose. Art will and shall always been critique and if that offends you then you have the problem. How much writing education you have it and accomplishments? I have alot and is gifted in writing. You would know if you visited my channel and read some of my poems like my poem "the outside" it is loaded with beautiful literary devices. It sounds like you are into insulting and triangular argueing like narcs when ever someone doesn't side with you. Your behavior is toxic. If you continue on harassing me I will report you to youtube. Post your comments but stop trolling to character assisinate others with insults.
@@ladybird491 it sounds like you're insecure nobody is trying to kill your writing career quit being paranoid and projecting your own self doubts into the comments of others calm down 😂
GAAAAAY. I hate all the romanticizing about death when no one knows a single thing about what actually happens. Will you be safe? Are you sure? You won't know until you're dead.
@@straightastudent683 death is not a fucking mistery. It's just like being asleep, there's almost no chance of an afterlife, just blissful, peaceful oblivion.
You have nothing against alcoholism? Well sorry but I feel compelled to say that you're an ignorant piece of banana bread for thinking like that. A lot of people can't manage alcohol but still feel the need to drink to function and that destroys ones self image and others and bad judgement will occur evidently.
I work at a post office doing the same job he did. I read the book awhile ago and was struck by how little has changed in all the time since he was running the routes too. One of those few truly consistent things in life: the sun goes up and down, people live and die, and the post office is a shit.
Look at all the posthumous releases they've done of his work. The worst part being that John Martin has edited down the "raw" parts of it. Some of the edits are ridiculous and pretty weird. Considering he originally took a huge chance on Buk when he was a stinky unknown drunk. Martin kinda whored out Buk after he passed. I still respect him for taking a chance on Buk but still.
Bukowski was similar to Orson Welles who famously said: "God, how they'll love me when I'm dead." Bukowski was known and feted when he was alive, but his popularity has just risen and risen after his death with so many collections of great poems continuing to be published.
It happens to all the great artists. Although, admittedly, some very shallow and bland artists also become very famous after their death, but I'd risk and say that the latter happens more often, thankfully.
His legend has definitely grown. But personally I'd stick with the many, many books he put out during his lifetime. Some of the posthumous stuff--and there's been A LOT of posthumous stuff--you can kind of see why he didn't bother putting them out while he was alive. Some of it I have my doubts if he even wrote it. I mean, dude was a publishing madman. Book after book. He was always putting stuff out. How do they, decades after his death, keep finding all this unreleased stuff? I can see maybe a volume or two, stuff he never got around to putting in a collection. But there's been like literally a dozen books of poetry put out since his death. Where the fuck is this stuff coming from? Nobody, not even Bukowski, hit a home run every time. The best unreleased stuff obviously would've been in the first posthumous book. Eventually John Martin or whoever was taking any scrap of paper Bukowski wrote on and making a poem out of it, I think. Stick with the stuff the man himself put out. Can never go wrong there.
may i ask - are you american , are you talking about in america. in the uk very few know him or internationally. which i think is criminal. i adore bukowsky. he is the real deal and the poetry world's equivalent of a rock n roll star (it is not new of course. Lord Byron was vastly more rock n roll 200 years before rock n roll was even invented). But bukowsky has such shabby chic about him. a brilliant writer, so raw and honest with his words and emotions. he made me look at my writing and stop with the frilly stuff and get to the damn point, be gutsy and insouciant.
@@john10000ish Only if you let it. You don't use the rear view mirror drive forwar in a car. Break the chains in the past that bring you down and hold you back and dominate and make your future!
@@davidchase9424 you do use the rear view to drive forward though, ever pulled away from a curb into traffic? Youre reaching at a metaphor and thats ok, but this was a dumb example. And your past does matter. A lot. Its literally how we learn.
Generally, I find Bukowski a pretty good writer-especially his poetry, very common tongue like Raymond Carver. What's unfortunate is that so many post-modernist "poets" today (a majority on Instagram and Tumblr) seem to have a very shallow view of his work, and so they just dawdle on the same bullshit of "I'm tortured, lonely, drunk" blah blah blah. Bukowski wrote about that stuff, but he was really always reaching into something else-he didn't write about being drunk for the sake of writing about being drunk, he did it to reveal our felt necessity to numb our selves. All the post-modernist poets think that to be a poet you need to have a typewriter and a bottle of Jack, maybe some heartbreak to spice. Garbage.
I mean anyone who writes anything and calls it a "poem" just because they like to think that that is what they are writing. Billy Collins said it best for me, "nobody would pick up a basoon or saxaphone and just try and play it, but almost everyone thinks you can pick up a pencil and call yourself a poet" I'm a bit biased in this regard, I study poetry and write it myself-a majority of what I read on Instagram is just forgettable babble regurgitating the same shit every time: ie. "I have a broken heart". It's just unintelligent, completely disregarding of the reader, and stagnant. Post-Modern art is just another attempt by "artists" to lower the bar, once again, on what makes something art.
Post-modernism wasn't about saying "lowering the bar," it was about deconstructing notions of absolute truth, objectivity and reason. So yes post-modernist artists were less obsessed with "craft" but this was to subvert norms that had formed within modernism and stifled creativity. They knew exactly what they were doing by engaging "lower" forms of art. Would you say John Ashbery's poetry is unintelligent? Or any of the New York School's? Or the Beats for that matter? I also study and write poetry. I also hate the shit that gets posted on Instagram. But you're using an incredibly important movement to label people who simply have no idea what they're doing. They aren't subverting anything, they're just inexperienced and unwilling to dive deeper within themselves for an ounce of originality.
NorthWestLax01 No, I wouldn't call any of those poets (The Beats, NY, John) unintelligent. The difference here is they still deployed craft in their work; a consequence of post-modernism is the lowering of the bar we see in the arts-it makes it out as all being much more relative than it actually is. If post-modernists are so big on stepping away from things like reason and the search for absolute truth, then they must hate Shakespeare, and Whitman, and so on. What is there to salvage in post-modernism is the movement itself trashes the very things that make art what it is (the marriage of truth and beauty, and the search for them)?
To think how he was gonna be immortalised after he died was the greatest prediction. All he wanted was a nice quiet life. He once said that what he wanted from his writing was to, "pay the rent and have something to drink. "
"If you can't write the next line... Well, you're dead" I like that thought a lot. It goes beyond the generic phrase of "keep going and you'll make it". It taps in a more existential feeling. You have to create to live, but it's so easy not to create. It's so easy not to live. I need to read me some more Bukowski!
There might be even more victims of communism, then 100 million, because they are finding mass graves from forests all over Eastern Europe, especially in Russia and Ukraine, besides, NKVD didn't kept any accurate statistics to cover up their crimes. Their usual trademark is victims mouth stuffed with a rag and bullet in the neck. Brutal torture before killing wasn't also unusual. Western media of course doesn't cover any of that, because then they have to admit, that they were allies with criminals in ww2. But there is tonne of material in Russian mainstream and alternative media and literature. I would gladly wish that America becomes communist dictatorship, because these spoiled fatasses need some rough treatment.
Man, Nick, next time you're going to complain about something, then for the love of the reader, please do mention where your source of ignition comes from, i got it while reading the last comment by Ian, not before, before i just thought you were a lunatic or that there maybe was some erased comments
I feel you have to have some level of pretentiousness as an artist to create good work, you have to believe what you're making is better than most of the bullshit out there in order to make it. If you have the opposite than your output is usually weaker. I know personally I made worse art when I thought my work wasn't as good as anyone else's.
he was doing that and romanticising it, almost challenging anyone to say otherwise. His quote: "i think my writing is really pretty fucking powerful stuff" shows just how up his own arse he really is
Sam Blanchard yeah wow he thought his writing was powerful. that's the biggest evidence you have for how full of himself he was? that he thought his writing was powerful? you don't know much about authors do you?
Bukowski was similar to Orson Welles who famously said: "God, how they'll love me when I'm dead." Bukowski was known and feted when he was alive, but his popularity has just risen and risen after his death with so many collections of great poems continuing to be published.
I love how he is just blunt, and not sugar coat things. He is a bit too negative alot of times but I dunno what he's been through. Great writer, great man
I like this idea that a crappy life fuels the wheels of creativity, My favourite Bukowski adage - "Bad luck for the young poet would be a rich father, an early marriage, an early success, or the ability to do anything well". Yep, I missed my vocation. He might have added - "Good luck would be a strong liver". Ha!
people who have never been outcasted because of their skin & driven into isolation & loneliness would never be able to fully understand part of Buk's personality. It molded him into the man he was, which made him come off as "insane" because that loneliness became his muse. He adapted to it & turned that suffering into art. There's nothing pretentious about him. He was smart & he knew it, so what? He should've felt proud of that. He knew he was good, for all the other things he was insecure about, the fact he knew he was good at something is a beautiful thing & people really shouldn't criticize him for that. Everyone needs at least one thing to keep them semi-happy.
Harold Haroldson I think he did when he was a kid. Have you ever read Ham on Rye? That's my favorite of his & illustrates where his isolation stemmed from. I know he enjoyed his solitude, but at first I think it was hard for him.
Right, but I don't believe him. He talks about his childhood a lot in Ham on Rye & you can tell he was lonely. I also have Tales of Ordinary Madness & a bunch of others of his. I've been reading him for almost 20 yrs.
I know he was content being alone. I also know he kept to himself more when his skin got bad, it's in the book I've mentioned. There's no denying he isolated himself. He was very misunderstood, I agree with that.
@@tl9585 hey! Thanks for answering, I forgot I left this comment, but I remember that I felt very lost while watching the video, but now I don't feel that way anymore, things are so much better now! I hope everything is going well for you!
I found Bukowski as a kid, and in highschool I discovered it was 'cool' to like Bukowski, and all these truly stupid people would talk to me about the drinking and the sex, and it pissed me off because I felt like they were totally missing the point. I quit reading him for over a decade. I would just tell people I didn't like him anymore just to avoid having to hear their opinions on the subject. Then one day I randomly found an old copy of South of no North, and it blew my mind. Then I found hot water music (personal favorite) and straight up fell in love again. He presents philosophical concepts in dark ways, ways I, as a grown alcoholic man, can relate to on a deep psychological level. It is true art. The screwing and drinking are only a frame for the philosophical punch that can be found in almost all his stories...
I really like his poetry a lot. It's like he puts my thoughts into words so well. He was an amazing writer even tho I'm not sure if I would like him as a person. He was pessimistic and dark but probably very soft on the inside. Very interesting person, but crazy too
Ena Šušnjar That's the thing that many people miss, he WAS soft inside. But he lived a very tragic life full of drunkenness and worthless women. Sad stuff, the kind of stuff that poets are made of.
I remember when I was fresh out high school I was working at a logistics company and a guy named Tony mentioned Bukowski. I never followed up but I always remembered the name-Bukowski, it’s unforgettable much like his writing, his persona. Fast forward 15 years and now I’m like that guy named Tony, telling the younger generation to check out Bukowski. Keep the legend alive!
“I was blessed with a crappy life” that hit different. All the stuff I seen in my life I thought I was cursed. But now I know I’m blessed. I now see the art in a crappy life.
Of the few "celebrities" I love, I love Bukowski the most. Not because of the poetry, or the drinking, but because he was so obviously committed to being himself, against all the odds life could throw at him.
You,ve got that bang on. He retreated or gave up on being his own person.He saw that life for some was something to drag yourself throw. And they never question . WHY?
Bukowski made me rethink my own existence when I was 17. Now I write my own books, because he gave me the self confidence that I never had in my life before. Thanks for everything dirty old man.
The sad fact is that eh was 100% correct when he said they’ll discover him after he’s dead. He gained so much popularity after his death. Sad to think someone that was so powerful with words and had such an incredible philosophical foresight, would live such a sad and meager life. He could have brought hope and wisdom to so many people had he been more famous in life.
He and a lot of other people (authors, artists, and singers) got so much more powerful after they died, it’s crazy to think about how unappreciated people are until their dead. Humans - crazy things.
If you'd like my two cents, I think a lot of the problems with the younger poets, as Buk himself said, was that they just want to be famous. Buk really lived the life he talks about. They have a gin and tonic and call themselves alcoholics. He had said, "The poets come with their blameless, tame verse" and I think there's where they lose me with their poetry slam ethic of performing and posing, where Buk's reading were just him sitting at a table with a bottle of wine and an ashtray.
J G Ever heard the mock up joke that people thought rap stood for “retards attempting poetry” ? It started from there Besides, the rhythm part is one of the quintessential element to rap And they spit on top of the beat Alot of MCs and old timers incorporated poetry elements(style figures, metaphors, allegories, story telling elements, satire, etc...) Since the music is popular with a big crowd, big pen pushers and disc company are marketing false “artists” to make their living Not trying to back rap or whatever but you’re fucking retarded if you just deny the objective factors to the whole thing Whether you like it or not
Gonna slightly disagree, slam poetry is definitely separate from regular poetry readings. Slam poetry emphasizes word play, body language, rhythm, and breathing in a way regular poetry doesn’t. Modern poetry still sucks, but don’t blame slam poets (they’re actually some of the better ones)
Scott Brillon I mean that’s fine it’s just understanding slam poetry is a separate entity from regular poetry and it’s a bit silly to speak on the subject when you’re obviously unfamiliar with it.
I would happily watch a documentary of Charles Bukowski made with this animation. I think it captured elements of his character and humanism far better than any live action documentary could ever do.
I don't know. If you take the Chinaski novels as a whole, it's a pretty redemptive story. Working-class boy survives an abusive father, spends years drifting, bad relationships, only to eventually be recognized as a genius and have women half his age fucking his brains out. He ends up in a nice home in an LA suburb with his loving wife...Now the short fiction, with one-off characters, yeah, they're mostly pretty depressing. The poetry, some of them are totally life- affirming. "Roll the Dice," "The Laughing Heart," etc. I guess it's how you look at it. People say Morrissey is bleak too, but I look at him same way I do Hank. Dude's been telling you his life story all along. Came from nothing, followed his dream, and achieved it. I don't find either bleak, not ultimately. I get a lot more hope from a Chinaski tale than the umpteenth novel about bored, quietly suffering suburbanites, hating their spouse and their job and blah blah blah.
He inspired me to quit my 9to5 stressful job at 51 and work less hours for myself while getting serious about my sculpting and painting. He once said something about doing what comes easy. That really made me open my eyes.
I love the fact he gave me at 50. At 56 , I'm the same. Just want too write and drink and think, without the world asking for my participation. Thanks Charles, for showing the way too lead a life-true.
Oh, come on, you're not Bukowski. He wasn't showing the way; he was just living his life - and was offered a stipend, and knew he could live poor. If you have a more-or-less guaranteed, if modest, source of income, enough to live on, and if you can handle the alcohol, then go for it - otherwise you'd be a fool, and he'd be the first to tell you so.
There's something inspiring yet melancholic about a reknown creator being praised for doing something knowing that they're emotionally dependent on it.
There's a lot more wisdom in this video than most people realize. The part where he said: "they figured I was dumb, too dumb to steal, so they took me". Most people blame managerial incompetence on the Peter principle, but that's not usually the problem. People are afraid of being replaced, so the higher ups will often hire people who are not capable of replacing them and then the people they hired do the exact same thing and then each level of management becomes a little more incompetent than the one above them and by the time you reach middle management you have these complete simpletons who barely understand anything, so when you're in an interview you might want to hold back a little bit and not show off in front of the person who's interviewing you, just show them that you can do the job and you're willing to work. But if you're talking to the boss, someone who cannot be replaced, then give it everything you got, blow them away with your abilities. Long story short, "never underestimate the power of being non-threatening".
I'm a broke artist living in a crappy rental, and I love it! I don't envy the life of a single one of my friends. Hope I never make it, it's probably gonna make me miserable🤣
I love that you are you, Charles Bukowski. And that you consciously made what appeared to be "mad" choices to be you. I am choosing me too. Writing is a need. A long denied, deeper connection to myself. To honestly share me with those open to listening and feeling and connecting is what I seek. Connecting via the spoken, public world and acknowledging my sense of disconnection and suppression so that I may stumble into a space of like-minded, realistic/cynical, devastatingly hopeful fellow travellers.
I picked up one of his collections from a random thrift store by chance. I had been walking around the store for about half an hour and felt bad about leaving without buying anything, so I grabbed a random book. And now here we are
This animation style fits this interview very well
Karol a yes!! amazing animation!!!
Reminds me of Dr. Katz.
Wynona's Big Brown Beaver Me too, Squigglevision
Mary Ellen Holtz is that primus?
Luke Brown Haha yes it's Primus & username of dude I replied to
''Can you remember who you were, before the world told you who you should be?'' - Charles Bukowski
Maybe just happy
I do and that's the worst part.
❤.
It scares me that I can't
"..I don't know what I am...I'm going to the bathroom.." If that doesn't completely and accidentally sum up the human existence, I do not know what does.
"I dont care what I am . I have to go to the bathroom"
jgoobix
Seems more like toxic projection on your part bud.
@@snowfrosty1 How is the admission of ignorance toxic?
You're basic.
Jose Luis Enjoy this poem of a song I made 👉🏽 ruclips.net/video/zncHdajRDW8/видео.html
I really love the lack of music thank you.
the pacing and tone were perfect
Hey, I'm curious: why did you guys use this video and not have Patrick Smith or another animator make one? Don't get me wrong, I'm glad this version is getting the recognition it deserves, but it's not the style y'all are known for. I was really excited to see a video on Buk, but I was a little disappointed it was a re-upload and not a typical "Blank on Blank" video.
That aside, I gotta say: I love y'all's content and how y'all are presenting these almost lost interviews.
yes.
You hate the lack of these nuts nigga
Javier Spicer what a concept
I am surprised of how gentle he is when talking. I always imagined his voice to be tough.
ruclips.net/video/df4OSfvei3M/видео.html
He was an LA guy and has that west coast nasally thing.
I thought the same thing. His voice surprised me.
Plus he was old at the moment that interview got taken, and he was a drunkard. Drunkards tend to speak slower, softer
@@artemkuznetsov1514 Have you ever been to any bar?
This man inspired me to actually do something with my life instead of just getting myself soaked up in my sadness
didn’t expect that reply
Happy for you bro
@yeahSOwhat And the second thing guaranteed in life is that the sun will go up, and will go down , and then up again. And what does it matter of were all going to die in the end? Might as well do the things you love to do and not worry about tomorrow.
@yeahSOwhat what? I didn't mean it that way at all. I just meant if we're all gonna die, and in this case in a hospital crying in pain, it's better to know you lived your life to the fullest than to regret knowing you lived your whole life afraid and not doing he things you wanted to do.
He did what he did-soaked in sadness. I think he believed he deserved a miserable life. He looked for the pain in the world and saw nothing but it.
If you can't write the next line, well, you're dead. The past doesn't matter.
barnicletoast here's a line said my dealer
Marten Dekker Think he meant you can't dwell in the past and need to always keep moving forward.
I read your comment the exact time he said it :O
Shaun McRoberts well he’s alcoholic or has depression. If he’s an alcoholic the only enjoyment he’s chasing is that drink. If he’s depressed he’s not casing anything. He’s doing what he enjoys which is the best part. And that is writing. He’s probably just feels alone and doesn’t have anyone he can vent to one on one
@@jesuschrist2616 love it 😀😍❤
"our educational system tells us
that we can all be
big-ass winners.
it hasn't told us
about the gutters
or the suicides.
or the terror of one person
aching in one place
alone
untouched
unspoken to
watering a plant."
If color could manifest itself as words, this man's palette was incredible.
Why does it burn
truth
All I saw was prose with line breaks. It's not poetry. I see hardly any literary devices. That is what POETS use to paint
@matthew austin please shut up. I never said it sucked. I said it is not poetry. I am sick of seeing people call anything poetry with line breaks. If that is true then I can add line breaks to this post and call it a poem. If what you Are saying is true then all experts who use the wrong way as a stepping stone to show the right why is shitting on others. All experts do it. What it seems like you are trying to do is plant negative seeds in commenters heads about me in order to kill my writing career cause u went to my RUclips and got jealous of my skill in writing. You are hoping others will agree with you due to any prejudice or jealousy they may also have of my work on my channel. I am not going to engage in your jet I mind tricks to make me think I got to agree with your feedback or I am wrong. Are you really saying there is no such thing as experts in writing? I bet if I was world famous (which doesn't take real talent) you wouldnt say that. You should know most genuis and experts in writing, are not even famous. Also many well established even prize winning writers have said his work is prose. Art will and shall always been critique and if that offends you then you have the problem. How much writing education you have it and accomplishments? I have alot and is gifted in writing. You would know if you visited my channel and read some of my poems like my poem "the outside" it is loaded with beautiful literary devices. It sounds like you are into insulting and triangular argueing like narcs when ever someone doesn't side with you. Your behavior is toxic. If you continue on harassing me I will report you to youtube. Post your comments but stop trolling to character assisinate others with insults.
@@ladybird491 it sounds like you're insecure nobody is trying to kill your writing career quit being paranoid and projecting your own self doubts into the comments of others calm down 😂
"after i'm dead and safe" wow
GAAAAAY. I hate all the romanticizing about death when no one knows a single thing about what actually happens. Will you be safe? Are you sure? You won't know until you're dead.
@@straightastudent683 "GAAAAAY."?! How old are you - 12?
@@straightastudent683 death is not a fucking mistery. It's just like being asleep, there's almost no chance of an afterlife, just blissful, peaceful oblivion.
@@straightastudent683 we are born to die.
@@straightastudent683 nothing happens. Our bodies simply shut down and we are either cremated or buried and eaten by worms.
"PEOPLE ARE SO STUPID THAT THEY EAT EVEN IF THEY ARE NOT HUNGRY". Charles Bukowski. Epic writer!
and what about this phrase?
"People are so stupid that they drink even if they are not thirsty" - Alcoholism is a deep depression.
I have nothing against alcoholism as long as it does not involve eating beings with brains and eyes.
You have nothing against alcoholism? Well sorry but I feel compelled to say that you're an ignorant piece of banana bread for thinking like that. A lot of people can't manage alcohol but still feel the need to drink to function and that destroys ones self image and others and bad judgement will occur evidently.
That is their very own problem and I care, but I care more about the voiceless beings who cannot ask for help.
Are you a vegan?
I work at a post office doing the same job he did. I read the book awhile ago and was struck by how little has changed in all the time since he was running the routes too. One of those few truly consistent things in life: the sun goes up and down, people live and die, and the post office is a shit.
dude I dont care email broski email broski
I carried for a while. It paid well.
@@jwjgreenwood9806 you know you cant send packsges ans things through email
What’s the book called?
@@Ddfhhdd12345 post office
I don't know what I am. I'm going to bathroom.
No. Bathroom. It's slurred.
Cihan Ay I can see what your doing
A genius is what he is
Cihan Ay godlike
jesus christ *you're*
This was probably the best interview you could really have because it feels less like an interview and more like a conversation.
"I think after i'm dead (and safe) they're gonna trot me out I'm gonna really be discovered, you know? 'Bukowski'! It's gonna be sickening..."
Nah, two weeks after we cross over, almost all of us are forgotten...
Look at all the posthumous releases they've done of his work. The worst part being that John Martin has edited down the "raw" parts of it. Some of the edits are ridiculous and pretty weird. Considering he originally took a huge chance on Buk when he was a stinky unknown drunk. Martin kinda whored out Buk after he passed. I still respect him for taking a chance on Buk but still.
Kowalski analysis
It is
@@uniquechannelnames Ewwww...is that true? Disgusting! What imprints have been edited down? Penguin?
Bukowski was similar to Orson Welles who famously said: "God, how they'll love me when I'm dead." Bukowski was known and feted when he was alive, but his popularity has just risen and risen after his death with so many collections of great poems continuing to be published.
It happens to all the great artists. Although, admittedly, some very shallow and bland artists also become very famous after their death, but I'd risk and say that the latter happens more often, thankfully.
TM Rezzek
His legend has definitely grown. But personally I'd stick with the many, many books he put out during his lifetime. Some of the posthumous stuff--and there's been A LOT of posthumous stuff--you can kind of see why he didn't bother putting them out while he was alive. Some of it I have my doubts if he even wrote it. I mean, dude was a publishing madman. Book after book. He was always putting stuff out. How do they, decades after his death, keep finding all this unreleased stuff? I can see maybe a volume or two, stuff he never got around to putting in a collection. But there's been like literally a dozen books of poetry put out since his death. Where the fuck is this stuff coming from? Nobody, not even Bukowski, hit a home run every time. The best unreleased stuff obviously would've been in the first posthumous book. Eventually John Martin or whoever was taking any scrap of paper Bukowski wrote on and making a poem out of it, I think. Stick with the stuff the man himself put out. Can never go wrong there.
Dude. Fuck Orson Welles
may i ask - are you american , are you talking about in america. in the uk very few know him or internationally. which i think is criminal. i adore bukowsky. he is the real deal and the poetry world's equivalent of a rock n roll star (it is not new of course. Lord Byron was vastly more rock n roll 200 years before rock n roll was even invented). But bukowsky has such shabby chic about him. a brilliant writer, so raw and honest with his words and emotions. he made me look at my writing and stop with the frilly stuff and get to the damn point, be gutsy and insouciant.
"Yesterday don't mean shit, because tomorrow's the day you're gonna have to face."
Pantera
But yesterday can haunt you.
@@john10000ish Only if you let it. You don't use the rear view mirror drive forwar in a car. Break the chains in the past that bring you down and hold you back and dominate and make your future!
@@davidchase9424 you do use the rear view to drive forward though, ever pulled away from a curb into traffic? Youre reaching at a metaphor and thats ok, but this was a dumb example.
And your past does matter. A lot. Its literally how we learn.
@@nunyabiznes5489 It's from a "Pantera" song. Listen to it, and get shit done. Later.
"I was blessed with a crappy life, that's all...."
"Crappy life to write about.."
This piece of art is so addictive that I come here very often.
He has the most sober, monotone and emotionless voice I have ever heard. I love it.
But when you're in first gear and you step on it, something happens. If you're already in fourth, not much.
Funny because he was rarely sober
I know the truth is you won’t love me until I’m gone
And even then the thing that comes after is movin’ on
Generally, I find Bukowski a pretty good writer-especially his poetry, very common tongue like Raymond Carver.
What's unfortunate is that so many post-modernist "poets" today (a majority on Instagram and Tumblr) seem to have a very shallow view of his work, and so they just dawdle on the same bullshit of "I'm tortured, lonely, drunk" blah blah blah. Bukowski wrote about that stuff, but he was really always reaching into something else-he didn't write about being drunk for the sake of writing about being drunk, he did it to reveal our felt necessity to numb our selves. All the post-modernist poets think that to be a poet you need to have a typewriter and a bottle of Jack, maybe some heartbreak to spice.
Garbage.
ZombieKilla Well said, goes well with my morning beer.
What do you mean by "post-modernist poets" in this context? These people you denounce just sound ignorant, not post-modernist.
I mean anyone who writes anything and calls it a "poem" just because they like to think that that is what they are writing. Billy Collins said it best for me, "nobody would pick up a basoon or saxaphone and just try and play it, but almost everyone thinks you can pick up a pencil and call yourself a poet"
I'm a bit biased in this regard, I study poetry and write it myself-a majority of what I read on Instagram is just forgettable babble regurgitating the same shit every time: ie. "I have a broken heart". It's just unintelligent, completely disregarding of the reader, and stagnant. Post-Modern art is just another attempt by "artists" to lower the bar, once again, on what makes something art.
Post-modernism wasn't about saying "lowering the bar," it was about deconstructing notions of absolute truth, objectivity and reason. So yes post-modernist artists were less obsessed with "craft" but this was to subvert norms that had formed within modernism and stifled creativity. They knew exactly what they were doing by engaging "lower" forms of art. Would you say John Ashbery's poetry is unintelligent? Or any of the New York School's? Or the Beats for that matter?
I also study and write poetry. I also hate the shit that gets posted on Instagram. But you're using an incredibly important movement to label people who simply have no idea what they're doing. They aren't subverting anything, they're just inexperienced and unwilling to dive deeper within themselves for an ounce of originality.
NorthWestLax01 No, I wouldn't call any of those poets (The Beats, NY, John) unintelligent. The difference here is they still deployed craft in their work; a consequence of post-modernism is the lowering of the bar we see in the arts-it makes it out as all being much more relative than it actually is. If post-modernists are so big on stepping away from things like reason and the search for absolute truth, then they must hate Shakespeare, and Whitman, and so on.
What is there to salvage in post-modernism is the movement itself trashes the very things that make art what it is (the marriage of truth and beauty, and the search for them)?
To think how he was gonna be immortalised after he died was the greatest prediction. All he wanted was a nice quiet life. He once said that what he wanted from his writing was to, "pay the rent and have something to drink. "
"If you can't write the next line... Well, you're dead"
I like that thought a lot. It goes beyond the generic phrase of "keep going and you'll make it". It taps in a more existential feeling. You have to create to live, but it's so easy not to create. It's so easy not to live. I need to read me some more Bukowski!
There might be even more victims of communism, then 100 million, because they are finding mass graves from forests all over Eastern Europe, especially in Russia and Ukraine, besides, NKVD didn't kept any accurate statistics to cover up their crimes. Their usual trademark is victims mouth stuffed with a rag and bullet in the neck. Brutal torture before killing wasn't also unusual. Western media of course doesn't cover any of that, because then they have to admit, that they were allies with criminals in ww2. But there is tonne of material in Russian mainstream and alternative media and literature. I would gladly wish that America becomes communist dictatorship, because these spoiled fatasses need some rough treatment.
Well right or wrong....you're sure good at making shit weird and uncomfortable. How's that help you in your day to day?
Man, Nick, next time you're going to complain about something, then for the love of the reader, please do mention where your source of ignition comes from, i got it while reading the last comment by Ian, not before, before i just thought you were a lunatic or that there maybe was some erased comments
ussr was not bad, what are you talking about
Space Babies I fucken read that when he said that
Great writer. He's not one of those pretentious artists who are full of themselves.
Niamh _ You really don't think he was pretentious? God, I do.
I feel you have to have some level of pretentiousness as an artist to create good work, you have to believe what you're making is better than most of the bullshit out there in order to make it. If you have the opposite than your output is usually weaker. I know personally I made worse art when I thought my work wasn't as good as anyone else's.
he was doing that and romanticising it, almost challenging anyone to say otherwise. His quote: "i think my writing is really pretty fucking powerful stuff" shows just how up his own arse he really is
Sam Blanchard yeah wow he thought his writing was powerful. that's the biggest evidence you have for how full of himself he was? that he thought his writing was powerful? you don't know much about authors do you?
Sam Blanchard yeah but if he didn't think his stuff was powerful would he be compelled to write it?
Discovering Charles Bukowski is one of the best things to happen in one's life.
"If you can't write the next line, well, you're dead" Holy crap
Physically incapable, or just another block stuck in the throat like a hot, baked potato which won't move neither up or down?
"I'm such a spoiled old toad..."
Damn, I felt that.
Bukowski was similar to Orson Welles who famously said: "God, how they'll love me when I'm dead." Bukowski was known and feted when he was alive, but his popularity has just risen and risen after his death with so many collections of great poems continuing to be published.
I love how he is just blunt, and not sugar coat things. He is a bit too negative alot of times but I dunno what he's been through. Great writer, great man
agree
He went through a lot
He is a Realist.
I like this idea that a crappy life fuels the wheels of creativity, My favourite Bukowski adage - "Bad luck for the young poet would be a rich father, an early marriage, an early success, or the ability to do anything well". Yep, I missed my vocation. He might have added - "Good luck would be a strong liver". Ha!
Strangely enough, I've never really read Bukowski. I wouldn't have a clue whether the stuff he wrote had any merit or not.
@@patricks1560 There are quite a few writers who could do other things well and enjoyed early successes. David Foster Wallace comes to mind.
The artist, the texture, the tones, his voice, the ambience, all of it just sit so well I could listen to his ‘shitty’ life for hours
people who have never been outcasted because of their skin & driven into isolation & loneliness would never be able to fully understand part of Buk's personality. It molded him into the man he was, which made him come off as "insane" because that loneliness became his muse. He adapted to it & turned that suffering into art. There's nothing pretentious about him. He was smart & he knew it, so what? He should've felt proud of that.
He knew he was good, for all the other things he was insecure about, the fact he knew he was good at something is a beautiful thing & people really shouldn't criticize him for that. Everyone needs at least one thing to keep them semi-happy.
Harold Haroldson I think he did when he was a kid. Have you ever read Ham on Rye? That's my favorite of his & illustrates where his isolation stemmed from. I know he enjoyed his solitude, but at first I think it was hard for him.
Right, but I don't believe him. He talks about his childhood a lot in Ham on Rye & you can tell he was lonely. I also have Tales of Ordinary Madness & a bunch of others of his. I've been reading him for almost 20 yrs.
I know he was content being alone. I also know he kept to himself more when his skin got bad, it's in the book I've mentioned. There's no denying he isolated himself. He was very misunderstood, I agree with that.
Little bit of psychopathic self-reflection here....just a bit.
PaperThinWalls well put.
I've been really stressed out about university, homework, everything honestly. This made me feel better for some reason.
I feel you Jade, Virtual college is why more stressful than college in person. I hope things are getting better though!
@@tl9585 hey! Thanks for answering, I forgot I left this comment, but I remember that I felt very lost while watching the video, but now I don't feel that way anymore, things are so much better now! I hope everything is going well for you!
I like how he embraced his misery and just lived through it with no complaints.
He's just so honest. It kills me every time I read him or hear him.
I found Bukowski as a kid, and in highschool I discovered it was 'cool' to like Bukowski, and all these truly stupid people would talk to me about the drinking and the sex, and it pissed me off because I felt like they were totally missing the point. I quit reading him for over a decade. I would just tell people I didn't like him anymore just to avoid having to hear their opinions on the subject. Then one day I randomly found an old copy of South of no North, and it blew my mind. Then I found hot water music (personal favorite) and straight up fell in love again. He presents philosophical concepts in dark ways, ways I, as a grown alcoholic man, can relate to on a deep psychological level. It is true art. The screwing and drinking are only a frame for the philosophical punch that can be found in almost all his stories...
I hope you’re doing well, I really do
If you think others are stupid then it is more likely to be yourself who is stupid.
I love this animation style and the stripped down lack of score of sound design makes it somehow more powerful.
I really like his poetry a lot. It's like he puts my thoughts into words so well. He was an amazing writer even tho I'm not sure if I would like him as a person. He was pessimistic and dark but probably very soft on the inside. Very interesting person, but crazy too
someone else i agree!
Ena Šušnjar
That's the thing that many people miss, he WAS soft inside. But he lived a very tragic life full of drunkenness and worthless women. Sad stuff, the kind of stuff that poets are made of.
name exactly
predobar pisac za dane u kojima se ne osjecamo porazeno,na neki cudan nacim daje snage.
full blown adhd, thats the mystery behind him.
I remember when I was fresh out high school I was working at a logistics company and a guy named Tony mentioned Bukowski. I never followed up but I always remembered the name-Bukowski, it’s unforgettable much like his writing, his persona. Fast forward 15 years and now I’m like that guy named Tony, telling the younger generation to check out Bukowski. Keep the legend alive!
This man is amazing. I just started listening to his work.
“I was blessed with a crappy life” that hit different. All the stuff I seen in my life I thought I was cursed. But now I know I’m blessed. I now see the art in a crappy life.
currently reading bukowski during a hard time in my life. Somehow he gives me hope.
Bukowski raged against the darkness, which is all around! He's a fighter!
This was awesome. I'm very happy RUclips gifted this to me after a whopping 4 years, i really love it
I've been a fan for a long time, but I can't recall ever hearing his voice until now...Thanks for making this available.
Of the few "celebrities" I love, I love Bukowski the most. Not because of the poetry, or the drinking, but because he was so obviously committed to being himself, against all the odds life could throw at him.
You,ve got that bang on. He retreated or gave up on being his own person.He saw that life for some was something to drag yourself throw. And they never question . WHY?
Bukowski made me rethink my own existence when I was 17. Now I write my own books, because he gave me the self confidence that I never had in my life before. Thanks for everything dirty old man.
Feel free to share more about Dirty Old Man with us, he really is one of the greats.
Whenever I feel awful, I read some Bukowski and feel better right away, faster than booze or aspirin.
The sad fact is that eh was 100% correct when he said they’ll discover him after he’s dead. He gained so much popularity after his death. Sad to think someone that was so powerful with words and had such an incredible philosophical foresight, would live such a sad and meager life. He could have brought hope and wisdom to so many people had he been more famous in life.
He is not gone…he is alive in every word of his work!
More fame would have corroded his gold. And he knew that
Even the way he spoke was poetic..
He and a lot of other people (authors, artists, and singers) got so much more powerful after they died, it’s crazy to think about how unappreciated people are until their dead. Humans - crazy things.
It’s wonderful that there is no music competing with the voice. Thank you.
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Beautifully done. The creator(s) did an outstanding job of capturing so much through this simple animation.
One of the best videos on RUclips
I feel the same dam way dammmiitttt. Thank you. At least i know im not alone. Finally someone verbalizes it. Bless you brother.
i love this video. i watch it every now and then just to feel alive
What I like about Bukowski: he managed to turn his life into art.
I love Charles Bukowski's work. "Dinosauria, We" is my personal favorite.
This man is on another level.
"And there will be the most beautiful silence never heard"
That is one of my faves by him also. Also "Bluebird".
If you'd like my two cents, I think a lot of the problems with the younger poets, as Buk himself said, was that they just want to be famous. Buk really lived the life he talks about. They have a gin and tonic and call themselves alcoholics. He had said, "The poets come with their blameless, tame verse" and I think there's where they lose me with their poetry slam ethic of performing and posing, where Buk's reading were just him sitting at a table with a bottle of wine and an ashtray.
J G
Rap is an acronym for Rhythm and Poetry so even tho most “rappers” nowadays are a bunch of fake ass and posers, OP was pretty spot on
J G
Ever heard the mock up joke that people thought rap stood for “retards attempting poetry” ? It started from there
Besides, the rhythm part is one of the quintessential element to rap
And they spit on top of the beat
Alot of MCs and old timers incorporated poetry elements(style figures, metaphors, allegories, story telling elements, satire, etc...)
Since the music is popular with a big crowd, big pen pushers and disc company are marketing false “artists” to make their living
Not trying to back rap or whatever but you’re fucking retarded if you just deny the objective factors to the whole thing
Whether you like it or not
Gonna slightly disagree, slam poetry is definitely separate from regular poetry readings. Slam poetry emphasizes word play, body language, rhythm, and breathing in a way regular poetry doesn’t. Modern poetry still sucks, but don’t blame slam poets (they’re actually some of the better ones)
@@Kawaiicarly Did I blame them? I can only speak to my experience and found them lacking...and abominably pretentious.
Scott Brillon I mean that’s fine it’s just understanding slam poetry is a separate entity from regular poetry and it’s a bit silly to speak on the subject when you’re obviously unfamiliar with it.
This was excellent; thank you. Lovely to hear the great man again and his timeless wisdom❤
Got so excited when i saw the title of this vid
Just discovering this man and I must say He's Genius!
“I don’t know what I am... but I’m going to the bathroom”
No better description of my life right now. 🙂
He didn't say that
This is the most beautiful video that I have ever watched in my entire life
When they asked duke ellington what his favorite song that he wrote duke said "the one I write tomorrow ". Similar sentiment here.
I would happily watch a documentary of Charles Bukowski made with this animation. I think it captured elements of his character and humanism far better than any live action documentary could ever do.
That's how I feel about my songs. Just looking forward to next one..forget about old ones
I'm feeling so chill. That's a great vibe I was looking for. Smoking and drinking in a room, one candle on the wooden table
bukowski is great but relentlessly bleak. he'd call me a fairy and I'm ok with that.
I don't know. If you take the Chinaski novels as a whole, it's a pretty redemptive story. Working-class boy survives an abusive father, spends years drifting, bad relationships, only to eventually be recognized as a genius and have women half his age fucking his brains out. He ends up in a nice home in an LA suburb with his loving wife...Now the short fiction, with one-off characters, yeah, they're mostly pretty depressing. The poetry, some of them are totally life- affirming. "Roll the Dice," "The Laughing Heart," etc. I guess it's how you look at it. People say Morrissey is bleak too, but I look at him same way I do Hank. Dude's been telling you his life story all along. Came from nothing, followed his dream, and achieved it. I don't find either bleak, not ultimately. I get a lot more hope from a Chinaski tale than the umpteenth novel about bored, quietly suffering suburbanites, hating their spouse and their job and blah blah blah.
yeah Chanaski is bleak, but theres a mocking humour to his stuff, that takes the edge off his dark outlook
You're a fairy.
Colin Larson press to listen 👉🏽 ruclips.net/video/zncHdajRDW8/видео.html
Fuck off normie
He inspired me to quit my 9to5 stressful job at 51 and work less hours for myself while getting serious about my sculpting and painting. He once said something about doing what comes easy. That really made me open my eyes.
Boy he makes frank zappa sound like santa clause
Bronson Herr kappa lol....Duch
Both over-rated and under-talented.
i wanna see you create better. its easy to criticise.
Valkonnen are you insane?
I don't think anyone can out create Frank..just an opinion beofre nyone tried to pick the statement apart
I watched again. LOVE IT
Bukowski doesnt have the voice I expected.
I feels weird saying this since I've read four of his books.
HarryIsTheGamingGeek I always imagined his voice as sounding like Tom Waits
Yeah. Something like that.
Beautiful Soul of Charles Bukowski 🕊️
You guys should do George Carlin
No one can do George except George.To attempt to would be sacrilegious.
Wtf? This channel hasn’t put out anything in seven years. It is the top of my feed…
Granted I do love Bukowski.
You guys should animate the only known audio footage of Nick Drake speaking, that'd be awesome!
Brilliantly done, and what a muse to pick - Buk the man.
This is brilliant, the animation is perfect.
PULP is my all-time favorite book!
Thank goodness for Mr. Bukowski 😢
one of my favorite poets.
Waaao what a piece. I love Bukowski.❤️ You have made an awesome piece. Great work of Art.
I love the fact he gave me at 50. At 56 , I'm the same. Just want too write and drink and think, without the world asking for my participation. Thanks Charles, for showing the way too lead a life-true.
Oh, come on, you're not Bukowski. He wasn't showing the way; he was just living his life - and was offered a stipend, and knew he could live poor. If you have a more-or-less guaranteed, if modest, source of income, enough to live on, and if you can handle the alcohol, then go for it - otherwise you'd be a fool, and he'd be the first to tell you so.
A fantastic animation for my favorite writer. Absolutely wonderful job
HST& Bukowski. Two of the greatest.
Of his books, I've only read Post Office. I loved it. Any suggestions for what next Bukowski book to read?
Seems like a good down to Earth dude. His train of thought is very rare
I've been waiting for this since forever ! thank you!
There's something inspiring yet melancholic about a reknown creator being praised for doing something knowing that they're emotionally dependent on it.
He said fuk the money and said i'ma write and just let it take me wherever.....TRUST THE UNIVERSE
Trust the universe? I'm not sure he said that.
Having drawn visuals makes this very watchable thanks BOB.
"I don't know what I am... [but now] I'm going to the bathroom."
Before enlightenment, wash your plate. After enlightenment, wash your plate.
I read his book about Hollywood, you come away thinking it's some kind of lunatic asylum. Enjoyed it.
There's a lot more wisdom in this video than most people realize. The part where he said: "they figured I was dumb, too dumb to steal, so they took me".
Most people blame managerial incompetence on the Peter principle, but that's not usually the problem. People are afraid of being replaced, so the higher ups will often hire people who are not capable of replacing them and then the people they hired do the exact same thing and then each level of management becomes a little more incompetent than the one above them and by the time you reach middle management you have these complete simpletons who barely understand anything, so when you're in an interview you might want to hold back a little bit and not show off in front of the person who's interviewing you, just show them that you can do the job and you're willing to work. But if you're talking to the boss, someone who cannot be replaced, then give it everything you got, blow them away with your abilities.
Long story short, "never underestimate the power of being non-threatening".
BRAVO! beautiful, touching and magical.
I'm a broke artist living in a crappy rental, and I love it! I don't envy the life of a single one of my friends. Hope I never make it, it's probably gonna make me miserable🤣
I love that you are you, Charles Bukowski. And that you consciously made what appeared to be "mad" choices to be you. I am choosing me too. Writing is a need. A long denied, deeper connection to myself. To honestly share me with those open to listening and feeling and connecting is what I seek. Connecting via the spoken, public world and acknowledging my sense of disconnection and suppression so that I may stumble into a space of like-minded, realistic/cynical, devastatingly hopeful fellow travellers.
"If you can't write the next line, you're dead... the past doesn't matter."
Just seen a couple of these videos, I really like them
I like how he talks about quitting his job to write and he was ready to be on skid row because he was tired of it all.
I picked up one of his collections from a random thrift store by chance. I had been walking around the store for about half an hour and felt bad about leaving without buying anything, so I grabbed a random book. And now here we are
Bukowski's carefree attitude. That's what I aspire to have.
Bukowski was utterly contemptuous of anyone who aspired to have what he had.