This ship went farther North & South than any other 🛟 Fram museum - Bygdøy - Oslo travel guide
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- Опубликовано: 27 янв 2024
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Welcome to this new episode of my woman solo trip to Norway!
In this episode I'm getting on a bus to the Bygdøy peninsula to visit the polar expedition museum, which features super famous wooden polar ship FRAM, which travelled farthest North and South than any other conventional vessel.
What to do in Oslo? Stay tuned to find out, I hope to be your travel guide.
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In Oslo I slept here (Hotell Bondeheimen)
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Fram museum (Bygdøy peninsula)
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Kafe FJORD
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"Sex education" Otis's house article
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Fram's builder (naval architect) Colin Archer
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Some information about why this ship is so incredible for your viewers.
Fram was designed so it could be frozen into the ice and drift through the north pole. But, at this point the movement of ice was just a theory, no-one knew anything about it other than finding the odd driftwood and a shipwreck found in Greenland and Svaalbard, thought to have originated from Siberia and Alaska.
So they took the ship to Siberia and drove her into the ice, freezing her solid, and the ship stayed frozen in the ice for three years! Slowly drifting through the ice.
But, the ship didn't drift north enough to reach the pole itself, so Nansen and Hjalmar Johansen went off on skies in an attempt to reach the pole. They failed, but came further north than any human being had ever been before them.
But the two men had now no way to relocate the ship, and went south in desperation. They ended up in the desolate Franz Josef Land, where they found some ice free shoreline where they fashioned a camp by digging a hole in the rocky ground, putting driftwood timber over it, and covering it with walrus skin. With supplies running low, they only survived by what they were able to hunt, and spent the next eight months there.
They were only rescued by some sheer luck. One day while out exploring Nansen heard the barking of some dogs. He went to investigate, and came across Frederick Jackson, another explorer who was on hiw own expedition to Franz Josef Land.
Now Franz Josef Land is a giant archipelago containing 200 islands, 16,134 square km large, and Nansen had no knowledge that there were another expedition there, nor did Jackson know that Nansen had to seek refuge there.
In my view it's one of the most incredible stories in history, and I had really hoped you would share this story with your viewers. Fram is about more than just cozy cabins and butchering of husbandry. There's so many incredible stories linked to this vessel. Fram was later used in other expeditions as well, including a four year long charting and scientific exploration of Arctic Canada, and the two year long Amundsen expedition which became the first to ever reach the South Pole.
And concerning the butchering of animals. I prefer they show the harsh reality. I think it's dangerous that meat now just comes already wrapped and packed, and we're so disconnected with the reality of husbandry and butchering. I think more people would care about animal welfare if they were more connected to it, and seeing and understanding the process is part of this. So it's very important to show the cruel reality.
Besides if you're on a ship for three years, trapped in the polar ice, with no ports or any contact with any humans at all, for three long years, how do you think they would avoid getting scurvy? You can't keep lemons and limes for that long, meat was the only option for surviving such an ordeal. And it would keep longer if butchered onboard, they really did not have any other choice in the matter. For the dogs survival as well. I don't think vegetarianism was a phenomenon in Norway at all at that time, it was among some in upper class Britain, but not elsewhere in Europe. So everyone ate meat, they wouldn't even have considered anything else. And how did they get the meat? It doesn't grow on trees.
It's so important to show the harsh reality, trying to shelter people from the reality of animal use and abuse is just going to cause worse conditions for animals. It's cowardice.
I apologise- I thought I had already commented - so better late than never. As always an interesting, quirky,funny and enjoyable vlog, with much " food for thought". It's sometimes difficult to go back in time and understand/accept that things were so different just over 120 years ago. Women had no vote, and were often seen as "second class"citizens". Thankfully all that has changed.
But firstly, congratulations on making a positive out of negative I.e. " if International traveller Camy can make it, so can I, even without an umbrella"!!
And now to be serious. You seem a well balanced,thoughtful person, a fair person.
I believe you would like to tell the whole story,yes? I seem to remember in a previous vlog you said you had Scottish DNA and so you must visit Dundee soon to see the Discovery Centre. This is the tragic story of Captain Scott and his voyage to "discover" the South Pole in his ship Discovery. It is docked in Dundee, and as a bonus is next to the wonderful V&A museum. Please visit/research soon, and really see the whole tragic picture.
Meanwhile I look forward to your next vlog - maybe "Camy discovers Discovery".
Another interesting and very informative video. Excellently filmed as usual. Better than any travel guides.
Thank you very much for your lovely comment! 🤗
Yes that was a long time...if you tap the picture on my thumbnail it is a photo of me returning after my last time at sea ... I had sea legs and walked like a drunk😅...just so you know a little about me.@@camyinwonderworld
Good place I feel like seeing this too
Yes Norway was beautiful!!
Very interesting I worked at sea in Alaska for 17 years fish processing, loved the time at Sea... thought you were gonna have to wash busses for a moment 😮
Thanks for watching and for your comment! Wow, 17 years at sea is a lot! Thankfully Norwegian buses looked nice and tidy, so I wouldn’t have minded cleaning one Lol 🤣
One of the happiest places in the world, according to research. ;) Where would you say that actually is in your opinion? :)
Thanks very much for the interesting (but not easy to answer 🤣) question! I would lie if I said I didn’t think about my own country first: Italy. The weather is mostly good, a lot of sunny days, food is amazing (and healthy, think about the Mediterranean diet), there’s variety in landscapes (beautiful snowy mountains to ski, the seaside to swim), friendly and warm people - usually..... Vitamin D surely has an impact on our mood and health. However, Italy lacks a lot to be considered the happiest country in the world and it doesn’t provide the best quality of life (faults in bureaucracy, education, the offer of work). So then one might think that yeah, perhaps Northern countries are better. But what about seasonal depression? Here in Scotland Storm Isha hasn’t been kind the past week… Yes, perhaps it’s easier to find a job that pays well and services are better, but still, think about the high suicide rates in Nordic countries and the abuse of alcohol and drugs… So, in conclusion, I can only say that the countries that felt the happiest to me (I was travelling though, I didn’t live there) were Cuba, Sri Lanka and the island of Bali in Indonesia. Sorry for the novel 🤣 What about you?
Great answer! And yeah I just realised it is quite a big question. Hehe. I think a lot of it can be down to someones personal preference and upbringing so it is quite subjective. Many would consider somewhere like Iceland or other Nordic places to be the happiest, on paper however I guess they can seem to lack the character and vibrance of the Mediterranean. It's just a very different vibe and so if a place is too pristine/sterile it can be quite depressing ironically. Italy and the French Riviera are really great choices. Probably Switzerland was the closest to perfection that I have experienced so far but there is still so much I have yet to see.@@camyinwonderworld
That’s right, I agree it is a very subjective and personal matter! And I also have always thought (and you worded it perfectly) that if somewhere looks too sterile/pristine it can result not alive and vibrant, ironically indeed! I had that impression in Copenhagen and in some parts of Switzerland, too 🙈
When I see this ship I think of jack and rose on the Titanic
Thankfully Fram didn’t sink 🤣
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A umbrella isn't really recommend for most of Norway, although it'll probably work well enough in Oslo.
Norway is just too windy, so you need to use water resistant clothing instead.
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I'm glad you like our drivers.
Pity about the animals...
I'm a vegetarian living in Norway.
What's important to understand about Norwegian attitudes towards animals is that Norway is extraordinarily poorly suited for agriculture.
Only about 4% of Norway can actually be used for agriculture, and even then most of it isn't suited for grain etc but grass for cows or hardy plants like potatoes...
Hunting has always been necessary for survival here and animal husbandry arrived *long* before farming did in most of Norway with goats being kept for centuries before the first grains etc where farmed.
And just like meat eaters today has to use that us or them mindset where "them" aren't people in order to learn to eat meat with a conscience so did people back then.
It was a incredibly pragmatic mindset that was *required* to survive here.
The arctic is a tough place for herbivores and vegetarians alike, but herbivores aww t least have evolved to survive on the hardy plants that actually survive up here in the north.
While for me as a vegetarian omnivore I'm relying on imported plants to make my diet viable, it's a luxury that wouldn't have been possible even just a few centuries back in time.
And if Norway ever where to enter a war with a sea power capable of blockading us, like Britain did during the Napoleonic wars people like me *would* have to eat meat to survive.
Because its quite literally impossible to survive on just locally grown plants in Norway.
We do not have that kind of food security.
Even with meat from animals capable of making use of plants indigestible to omnivores like us we'd probably have food shortages in Norway in such a situation.
That's why Norwegians have always had that mindset that killing *anything* that might improve our chances of survival has to be on the table as a option.
Up to and including whales, despite the ban everywhere else in the world.
Norwegian attitudes towards animals has thankfully improved greatly since those days.
But the fundamental idea that our survival comes first still permiates Norwegian culture.
And results in ideas such as a political party representing farmers actually wanting to drive our local wolf population to extinction...
And the compromise solutions we keep landing on always leads to unsustainably low population numbers with a lot of inbreeding...
Thanks very much for watching and commenting!
1- I live in Scotland so I understand the umbrella part very well 😂 It’s the same here, too windy for umbrellas. However, being Italian, I used them all my life, so I feel like I forgot something when it’s raining and I don’t have one. Thankfully, the North Face jacket I had was amazing.
2- I don’t eat meat either, so I’ve done some research online (on blogs, forums and websites) while I was there, about Norway and whale hunting, meat consumption and the attitude towards animals in general, and I had found some of the points you mentioned. Even if I love animals and I’m very sensitive when it comes to them, I can see that they had to kill to survive back then…especially in the North/South pole. It’s just that seeing a goat and a pig being held upside down by their legs and having their throat c*t with a knife (in the polar expedition museum video) was extremely triggering to watch. Perhaps they could have put a trigger warning. Anyway, thanks so much again for your very interesting comment, a lot to think about, and now I definitely know a bit more about the topic.
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Life as a vegetarian has improved a lot here in recent years and you can generally find vegetarian food in most cities these days.
Indeed many Norwegians have adopted a vegetarian day a week approach in order to reduce their environmental impact.
The amount of meat eaten pr capita has fallen drastically.
But it's mainly about environmentalism rather then animal welfare for most Norwegians.
And they don't necessarily have a black and white approach to meat, often preferring a so-called "flexitarian" diet over an actual vegetarian or vegan diet.
Or they just do a low meat one.
Pragmatism is the keyword really with Norwegians in general for the most part.
That said, Norwegians definitely doesn't approve of unnecessary suffering for animals.
They just happen to think that it's sometimes necessary... :-/
There is even a person holding a flag and jumping
In those days women were not allowed on ships because seemingly they brought bad luck.
Yet another example of the long history of misogyny…