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  • Опубликовано: 8 июл 2024
  • LBC callers react to Suella Braverman's controversial speech to the National Conservatism movement in which she decried government department's displaying the LGBTQ+ Progress flag.
    "Far, far too many Tory politicians agree, and still agree, that the Progress flag must be flown to be kind, to be inclusive," the former Home Secretary told the National Conservatism conference in Washington DC.
    "The Progress flag says to me, it says to me one monstrous thing: That I was a member of a government that presided over the mutilation of children in our hospitals and from our schools."
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  • @matthewcoyle3315
    @matthewcoyle3315 18 дней назад +957

    The first woman seems astounded that the Tories are wronguns.

    • @nichobee
      @nichobee 18 дней назад +106

      I stopped taking her seriously when she admitted she revoked membership because they threw Boris out. He's even worse than Braverman

    • @Soundboy817
      @Soundboy817 18 дней назад +52

      She hasn’t got a clue 😂

    • @dnel83
      @dnel83 18 дней назад +77

      "are we the baddies?"

    • @Hascienda27
      @Hascienda27 18 дней назад

      She hates herself for loving them, trying to deny she isn't A member when she probably just threw her member card out and never cancelled 😂 the thing I love the most is how fast Reform got brought up, it's not reform she's arsed about, they're the Nigel gang, the type you'd find licking the real ale signs at the local whetherspoons

    • @stephenwestland942
      @stephenwestland942 18 дней назад +18

      I love the term wronguns. You are not wrong though :)

  • @alexgill2455
    @alexgill2455 18 дней назад +942

    The shock that bigots are bigots is laughable.

    • @markwebsdale33
      @markwebsdale33 18 дней назад +42

      "I never thought leopards would eat my face..." etc etc.

    • @andyquelch5754
      @andyquelch5754 18 дней назад +7

      You have no sense of irony do you?

    • @vincentvangogh8092
      @vincentvangogh8092 18 дней назад +9

      that she thought Boris was on the right of the tory party is cute lol

    • @lcg8220
      @lcg8220 18 дней назад +17

      Hear me out, I don't know if Braverman is a bigot, I think she's just so completely without morals and convictions that she'll say whatever she thinks will benefit her no matter how utterly reprehensible it is, who it hurts, or the damage it does. And honestly, I think that's worse than being a bigot.

    • @OnePunchLion
      @OnePunchLion 18 дней назад

      ​​@@lcg8220 Both can be true at the same time. And if she is OK using the language of a bigot to try to get ahead, then she is probably a bigot.

  • @dogblessamerica
    @dogblessamerica 18 дней назад +348

    Wow the caller at the end was such a breath of fresh air. A lot of us feel the exact same way

    • @michelleneeds4165
      @michelleneeds4165 18 дней назад +15

      Yeah man, really uplifting to hear.

    • @melontusk9660
      @melontusk9660 18 дней назад +19

      Once you realise all the conservatives have been doing since 2014 is scapegoating you start to notice it every time they open their mouth and it is pathetic.

    • @V4Now
      @V4Now 18 дней назад +7

      ​@@melontusk9660? They've been doing that since 2010, mate.

    • @robinholland1136
      @robinholland1136 18 дней назад +13

      @@V4Now Since way before 2010. Look at the history of the Tories (from the old middle Irish word, 'tóraidhe' meaning 'outlaw' or 'robber') and you will see that their core belief is that wealth and power should be concentrated in the hands of a few, at the expense of every other citizen of the UK. That is their foundational principle. And, as Nye Bevan said, they will never change. I'm in my mid 70s and remember all the damage that they have done in all the administrations I can remember. The only difference with the current iteration of the party is that they have let the mask slip and have revealed themselves for what they really are.

    • @temptemp4174
      @temptemp4174 18 дней назад +9

      That guy is the voice of the silent majority

  • @saffaboy2007
    @saffaboy2007 18 дней назад +477

    This must be so awkward for Dale. His beloved party hates him, has always hated him yet he keeps shilling for them.

    • @Dogboy73
      @Dogboy73 18 дней назад +7

      Not his party, just a certain wing of it that has lost its way.

    • @caboosealmighty3735
      @caboosealmighty3735 18 дней назад

      Much like braverman. I'm sure the party hates her for the colour of her skin. So it's a caae of her shouting even louder "look at me, i'm a bigot to, I'm one of you guys."

    • @PurushaDesa
      @PurushaDesa 18 дней назад +7

      Yes, trouble in paradise for Iain Dale and other merchants of Woke Austerity.

    • @CHIPorange
      @CHIPorange 18 дней назад +20

      ​​@@Dogboy73 ...the wing who have pulled the strings since brexsh*t.

    • @fricozoid1
      @fricozoid1 18 дней назад +33

      @@PurushaDesawhat does woke mean? Just define to us right here right now.

  • @AshMundo
    @AshMundo 18 дней назад +867

    This first caller crying about bigots but was thinking of voting reform? 🤔

    • @emanuel1940
      @emanuel1940 18 дней назад +93

      Well she was a tory so it's telling of her intelligence and moral compass.

    • @Kevinacharles
      @Kevinacharles 18 дней назад +55

      Her moral compass was all over the place.

    • @jimseltzer2002
      @jimseltzer2002 18 дней назад

      Reform bigots gained 4 million votes- and are growing. Denigrate all you like, but they are growing. Vote reform.

    • @user-mm8gc5pp1j
      @user-mm8gc5pp1j 18 дней назад +73

      "I never though Leopards would eat MY face," sobs chairwoman of Leopards Eating Faces Party. 🐆

    • @eliasnorman711
      @eliasnorman711 18 дней назад +33

      Yeah because calling people who don't agree with your politics names is the height on intellectual activity isn't it. This is why reform did and will continue to do so well.

  • @colinmccall7824
    @colinmccall7824 18 дней назад +45

    "A lot of leftie middle class people now in charge have all got trans childre😄n." Planet Zog calling! 😂

  • @Theoffsidetrap011
    @Theoffsidetrap011 18 дней назад +563

    That last caller cooked. Absolutely spot on for the vast majority of the UK right now.

    • @debb6393
      @debb6393 18 дней назад +18

      👏👏👏

    • @ggunga7764
      @ggunga7764 18 дней назад +16

      Yes 👍👍👍

    • @randybackgammon890
      @randybackgammon890 18 дней назад +32

      Man talked absolute sense.But large chunk of the population can easily be fooled otherwise it seems.

    • @ce242
      @ce242 18 дней назад +13

      100%

    • @peterk4626
      @peterk4626 18 дней назад +20

      Yup, now that is speaking for the British people.

  • @Philigan87
    @Philigan87 17 дней назад +17

    That first woman saying Braverman is a bigot, then saying she's going to vote reform, really is wild.

  • @JanoJ
    @JanoJ 18 дней назад +34

    Caller #3 the TRUE voice of the man in the street. We just want to live safe and in prosperity.

  • @EdwardLindon
    @EdwardLindon 18 дней назад +366

    Caller #2: "One last point. How can we tell parents of trans people how disgusting we think their children are?" The sense of victimhood is astonishing.

    • @colinmclennan1465
      @colinmclennan1465 18 дней назад +36

      She should be counting her lucky stars she didn’t find herself in that position

    • @lorenzobianchini4415
      @lorenzobianchini4415 18 дней назад +74

      I am me and I am proud to be me and gay.I would be ashamed to be a Tory.

    • @lordmusea
      @lordmusea 18 дней назад +38

      Very succinct and excellent synthesis of that second caller’s points. How do these anti-trans folks get away with making it all about their discomfort with the suffering of others?

    • @pete_lind
      @pete_lind 18 дней назад

      In USA a Pennsylvania community is mourning transgender teen Pauly Likens, 14, whose dismembered body was found at the end of Pride month.
      So do these people support the killer , put his picture up , some need to ask JK Rowling , is she paying killers lawyer ?

    • @nicciswainhi
      @nicciswainhi 18 дней назад +4

      ​@@lordmuseaBingo

  • @ggunga7764
    @ggunga7764 18 дней назад +58

    People is worried about the cost of living not this bs!

    • @garethking1639
      @garethking1639 17 дней назад

      @@ggunga7764 what if giving trans people rights didn’t cost anything? Would you be against it? Is it just because we have bigger financial priorities?

  • @ashroskell
    @ashroskell 18 дней назад +252

    How can that first caller say Braverman did nothing about immigration when she was in office? She did loads! She made the asylum backlog five times longer, gave a cash fortune to a country with an atrocious human rights record for doing NOTHING, got fired for breaking the law, gained the enmity and distrust of the secret services, created Victorian prison hulks, made the most vulnerable people on Earth feel frightened and persecuted, whilst treating them like criminals and putting them in conditions that endangered their health and lives!
    Oh, and then she joined the people trying to bring down the Tories and sabotaged her own government, displaying the loyalty of a rattlesnake!

    • @sv9950
      @sv9950 18 дней назад +13

      Can't agree more.

    • @bardsamok9221
      @bardsamok9221 18 дней назад +8

      Agreed, so much worse. Needs to be held to account. But we can't let her scapegoat responsibility of the many others involved.

    • @EpicAelflaed
      @EpicAelflaed 18 дней назад +1

      Just come out the ECHR ACT - Job done

    • @mrchico2621
      @mrchico2621 18 дней назад +1

      Yeah from the footage we see they don't look too vulnerable to be honest.

    • @cmasseylynch
      @cmasseylynch 18 дней назад

      Suella Braverman' reads from the Authoritarian Book for Dummies from Amazon for £9.95 - Always remembering to mention at least one group of people ,whom she can demonise- -combining this with gaslighting .It's the standard approach for people hoping to run an authoritarian country .

  • @jameshart3879
    @jameshart3879 18 дней назад +91

    7:35 the fact being trans is lefty is going to be a big shock to katlyn jenner

    • @obisan666
      @obisan666 18 дней назад +1

      Most are katlyn is an anomaly

    • @kevinsmarts9953
      @kevinsmarts9953 18 дней назад +12

      @@obisan666 This only highlights how little you know. There are transpeople of all faiths and political beliefs. Just like sexuality, gender doesn't care who you vote for or pray to.

    • @obisan666
      @obisan666 18 дней назад +4

      @@kevinsmarts9953 Most are liberal by virtue of how they are treated. Are you the trans spokesperson?

    • @jrobs1133
      @jrobs1133 18 дней назад

      Name another one

    • @kevinsmarts9953
      @kevinsmarts9953 18 дней назад

      @@jrobs1133 Name a trans person who is not a conservative.

  • @EdwardLindon
    @EdwardLindon 18 дней назад +295

    I'm not surprised Iain gives Caller #3 full rein. The man is on fire and tells no lies.

    • @ryuhayabaker
      @ryuhayabaker 18 дней назад +35

      Agree. I like the comments. Tories tried to fight the last election on immigration and culture wars because it's all they have left.

    • @stephenlees9386
      @stephenlees9386 18 дней назад +16

      ​@@ryuhayabaker
      An amazingly negative campaign from a party that had been in power for 14 years! No expression of any accomplishments at all!!!

    • @AndrewWilliams-ry6tb
      @AndrewWilliams-ry6tb 18 дней назад +5

      @@ryuhayabaker They did nothing on either issue, which is why they were destroyed. Labour will be even worse, and will be obliterated by Reform at the next election. Just look at the turnout, vote share and trend.

    • @Edward-cv2gw
      @Edward-cv2gw 18 дней назад +2

      ​@ryuhayabaker they didn't though did they. After 14 yrs of wokeness and mass immigration no one bought ant of that,so it wasn't a serious campaign.

    • @punjgurl
      @punjgurl 18 дней назад +14

      @@ryuhayabaker I'm hoping my fellow Americans respond like you Brits did to right wing nonsense.

  • @chrisd924
    @chrisd924 18 дней назад +155

    And then they came for Iain...
    The Penny Drops...

    • @qubitmusictechnology
      @qubitmusictechnology 17 дней назад

      Dale is part of the problem, I bet he still voted for his Tory mates

  • @ashroskell
    @ashroskell 18 дней назад +179

    That last caller was spot on. The Tories have paid the price for NOT checking the hate as it grew in their ranks. They just wanted the seats and took in any populist, any incompetent with cash, any, “personality politician,” and hang the consequences! He nailed it!

    • @somethinglikeanonymous1773
      @somethinglikeanonymous1773 18 дней назад +3

      As long as there isn’t any anti semetism it’s fine.

    • @ashroskell
      @ashroskell 17 дней назад

      @@somethinglikeanonymous1773: Fair enough. You’re talking to a floating voter, not a tribalist. There’s no such thing as a pure party in my view. Just the lesser of so many ills.

  • @Dogboy73
    @Dogboy73 18 дней назад +49

    Last caller was amazing. I'm on my third listen. Inspiring stuff.

  • @laurastars
    @laurastars 18 дней назад +627

    'children who are being transed' ... credibility lost from this ridiculous caller

    • @dannygmtg
      @dannygmtg 18 дней назад +73

      Then claims JKR uses a gentle tone

    • @stevqtalent
      @stevqtalent 18 дней назад +50

      i'm sure she thinks she nailed that call

    • @ate-4891
      @ate-4891 18 дней назад +47

      She can't string together a sentance, like shes just forcing buzz word jigsaw pieces together until something kind of fits.

    • @makaveli1988
      @makaveli1988 18 дней назад +6

      She was spot on. Some hedonistic tradition.

    • @Amousebouche
      @Amousebouche 18 дней назад +9

      She was absolutely correct.

  • @NikoHL
    @NikoHL 18 дней назад +108

    Great idea! We need a disability flag too !! The last caller said what we all think. Our priorities are cost of living, housing, jobs, Environment, crime.. .. Not culture war BS....

    • @briancrellin2441
      @briancrellin2441 18 дней назад

      But he needs to realize that all this is being pushed by the globalists and Keir Starmer is a globalist . So he's a bit off beam on that one .

    • @sarahjaneross2918
      @sarahjaneross2918 18 дней назад +3

      I was thinking that too... a disability flag, yes! 🥰

    • @SaffineTheGreen
      @SaffineTheGreen 17 дней назад +4

      there is already a disability flag as well as a disability pride flag (not lgbt+pride related)

    • @andrewgoodbody2121
      @andrewgoodbody2121 15 дней назад +1

      I'm still trying for figure out why she thinks she as an obviously straight woman has ANY right to what we put on our flag

  • @kevburke
    @kevburke 18 дней назад +27

    Ian is carrying water for people who would happily put him in a cage.

  • @timaustin2000
    @timaustin2000 18 дней назад +269

    Second caller is everything wrong with this country.

    • @itsagoal182
      @itsagoal182 18 дней назад +11

      Second caller is everything that’s correct with this country.
      Read the Cass report? You’re welcome.

    • @jonb4248
      @jonb4248 18 дней назад

      No, she’s correct. That flag stands for everything that is wrong. The whole movement has brainwashed the vast majority of people. We don’t need a flag. Simply treat everyone equally. Do not give special treatment or attention for behaviour that is different than the norm. The flag is a divisive symbol. Some people see it as an untouchable religion, others view it as nonsense. It’s highly divisive, that is why the powers that be love it. Just fly The Union flag.

    • @XAVR_
      @XAVR_ 18 дней назад +38

      ​@@itsagoal182 Do you know any trans people?

    • @blazzz13
      @blazzz13 18 дней назад

      @@itsagoal182 Yeah we tried that madness for the past 14 years and it was a shtshow. Great you lot are now the loud minority- it's going to be a long time for you lot. Many of the coffin dodgers won't be with us by the time Labour gets voted out

    • @PityOnlyFools
      @PityOnlyFools 18 дней назад +25

      @@XAVR_they never do. Tbf there’s only 100 kids in the UK getting treatment.

  • @kenfox7007
    @kenfox7007 18 дней назад +163

    Last caller is spot on.

  • @simongiles9749
    @simongiles9749 18 дней назад +58

    How is "This is a dangerous ideology" a "gentle, reasonable" way of discussing *any* issue and not negatively loaded language?

    • @thehellyousay
      @thehellyousay 18 дней назад +3

      cry harder.

    • @AK-bx3ft
      @AK-bx3ft 18 дней назад +27

      TERFs are just going to TERF.

    • @simongiles9749
      @simongiles9749 18 дней назад +19

      @@thehellyousay Wow. Great rebuttal.

    • @user-mm8gc5pp1j
      @user-mm8gc5pp1j 18 дней назад

      Like all Nazis, they can't be taken at face value. Never forget Posie Parker's true "allies" showing up in Melbourne, Australia. There's a reason TERF ideology is so popular with the book burning crowd...

    • @Captain_Kremmen
      @Captain_Kremmen 18 дней назад +10

      The notion of that screeching harpy Rowling expressing anything in a 'gentle, reasonable' way is beyond ludicrous.

  • @jameshart3879
    @jameshart3879 18 дней назад +38

    I love it when dale gets angry at the Tories only because it directly effects *him*. Don't forget, he was totally prepared to run for government in the same party as this women. Pearl clutching master

  • @andyknowles772
    @andyknowles772 18 дней назад +151

    Imagine being a right wing conservative and surprised by Cruella's homophobia.

    • @jake751
      @jake751 18 дней назад +9

      Only because it effects him.

    • @tenniskinsella7768
      @tenniskinsella7768 18 дней назад

      She's not.

    • @asmith6647
      @asmith6647 18 дней назад +1

      Imagine a Britain in 10 years time when a certain religion has more power and they ban homosexuality….

    • @andyknowles772
      @andyknowles772 17 дней назад +4

      @@asmith6647
      Imagine if huge space lizards came to eat us. It's about as likely.

    • @beaterbikechannel2538
      @beaterbikechannel2538 17 дней назад +1

      Imagine being a trans person and thinking those DIY parts you had made are going to work when you're 60. This will all be over in 10 years, consigned to the "yes this was a bad idea" page of history.

  • @phillydavison
    @phillydavison 18 дней назад +157

    The trans community is so small that it just boggles my mind that people get so wound up by it.

    • @PassiveAgressive319
      @PassiveAgressive319 18 дней назад +12

      👏👏👏👏

    • @user-wc2ss2fe9f
      @user-wc2ss2fe9f 18 дней назад +14

      Because its everywhere this pride bs

    • @Bigotsstaymad
      @Bigotsstaymad 18 дней назад +48

      @@user-wc2ss2fe9fand affects u how?

    • @sarahjaneross2918
      @sarahjaneross2918 18 дней назад +44

      ​@@user-wc2ss2fe9f
      How does a flag or pride month negatively affect your life?

    • @keirmitchell5560
      @keirmitchell5560 18 дней назад +6

      @@sarahjaneross2918 because it's pointless and disgusting.

  • @MarkCroucherRC4fun
    @MarkCroucherRC4fun 18 дней назад +43

    Boy did that last caller put Dale in his box 😊.

  • @lucasmoreno5330
    @lucasmoreno5330 18 дней назад +18

    Third caller was spot on. "Now they're coming for you Iain"
    Even after the Tory manufactured culture war lost them their 80 seat majority, they're still at it.

    • @MsTravelady
      @MsTravelady 18 дней назад +1

      He sounds as batty as the other two, just in a different way

  • @eliotlandy2798
    @eliotlandy2798 18 дней назад +97

    ‘I left after they slung Boris out…’ he wasn’t ‘slung out’ he ran away like he always does and always will.

  • @portzblitz
    @portzblitz 18 дней назад +49

    This caller is kidding herself. Completely unselfconscious. She might want to try some introspection. She seems intent on denying to herself the truth about the company she keeps... And her own un-deniable culpability.

  • @deborahgriffith7476
    @deborahgriffith7476 18 дней назад +24

    I don’t like bigots…. But my head said vote Reform ???? They’ve all gone mad!

    • @sonofsomerset1695
      @sonofsomerset1695 18 дней назад

      No, you're just ignorant of what Reform stand for, you've just got your simplistic picture of them painted by establishment propaganda, why do you think they're the 3rd most people party already after having only just started?

  • @andrewrobinson1479
    @andrewrobinson1479 18 дней назад +46

    Keep talking like this and the right will continue to lose. It's 2024, this host and the callers are stuck in the past.

    • @MrPhobart
      @MrPhobart 18 дней назад +10

      Please keep losing

    • @jeremymerrifield7244
      @jeremymerrifield7244 17 дней назад +2

      @@MrPhobart only the one caller was wrong. The bigot in the middle

  • @mauromatos3124
    @mauromatos3124 18 дней назад +340

    Only when the far right bigotry knocks at his door does Dale call it out. Everything else is peachy.

    • @LeeKelly-dj4rf
      @LeeKelly-dj4rf 18 дней назад +22

      I’m glad I’m not the only person who thinks that.

    • @AOK342
      @AOK342 18 дней назад +29

      Moderate conservatives opened the door to this bile. They are just as much to blame for this emboldened far right.

    • @Samuel-hd3cp
      @Samuel-hd3cp 18 дней назад +12

      That's conservatives for you!

    • @mrdaveythebaby
      @mrdaveythebaby 18 дней назад +9

      I think we can all see it. Iain just won't let himself see it. And Braverman retains the whip, once again. Sunak has it in his power to take it away. He has had that power ever since he was was made leader and she has done other things that were just as bad, or worse. It was in Sunak's gift to keep her from being a Tory MP again.

    • @itsagoal182
      @itsagoal182 18 дней назад

      The extreme left are going to ruin this country with ideology and wokery.

  • @charlespirate1
    @charlespirate1 18 дней назад +156

    People objecting to the new pride flag and claiming they support the rainbow are kidding themselves. 20years ago they’d have hated that too.

    • @Edward-cv2gw
      @Edward-cv2gw 18 дней назад +11

      Both are nonsense. We live in secular Britain 2024,not an Islamic state in the 1700s. The idea we need to obsess over lgbt rights is absurd.

    • @stephenelkington4971
      @stephenelkington4971 18 дней назад +2

      We are not living 20 years ago. Time has moved on - we have changed - maybe you should too.

    • @katherynet1424
      @katherynet1424 18 дней назад

      spot on!

    • @jrobs1133
      @jrobs1133 18 дней назад +1

      @@stephenelkington4971 Yes, the country is soooooooooooooo much better than it was 20 years ago. 🤣🤣

    • @stephenelkington4971
      @stephenelkington4971 18 дней назад +8

      @@jrobs1133 Financially and economically it's knackered. Socially it is actually much better - racism, misogyny and homophobia are now deemed unacceptable to most people. The bigotry and discrimination of 20 years ago are no longer acceptable.

  • @matthewcoyle3315
    @matthewcoyle3315 18 дней назад +215

    The second woman: toxic.

    • @ZeldaKid5000
      @ZeldaKid5000 18 дней назад

      And notice how Dale kept bringing it back to immigration despite the fact she kept talking about trans people? Speaks to his hipocrisy that he can side with JK Rowling and yet get upset about Braverman because she's including him in her attacks.
      Should be a wake up call for him but I know it wont be

    • @jonb4248
      @jonb4248 18 дней назад +12

      She’s correct, not toxic.

    • @joshuabetts2484
      @joshuabetts2484 18 дней назад +38

      ​@@jonb4248definitely toxic

    • @mrdaveythebaby
      @mrdaveythebaby 18 дней назад +38

      Even the first one was toxic. That was the quiet, reasonable voice of the facsist enabler. Did you hear that her heart wanted her to vote Reform? Just because she uses a reasonable tone, you still have to listen to her words.

    • @matthewcoyle3315
      @matthewcoyle3315 18 дней назад +22

      @@jonb4248 Gibberish.

  • @Blackswitch92
    @Blackswitch92 18 дней назад +15

    3rd caller is the actual voice of everyone in the UK

  • @peterfee2457
    @peterfee2457 18 дней назад +31

    The last gent needs to be a regular caller.

  • @user-bn5dt9ww4x
    @user-bn5dt9ww4x 17 дней назад +6

    3rd caller with kids in school saying we don't want to hear it ... Legend!

    • @jarugie23
      @jarugie23 11 дней назад

      😂😂😂 I was saying it with him too. We're tired of the BS. Enough! We just want to earn enough and love in peace.

  • @idkjustaname
    @idkjustaname 18 дней назад +14

    Are we really going to ignore the fact that Dale just said hes in agreement with JK rowling on trans issues??

  • @JC-1405
    @JC-1405 18 дней назад +87

    JK Rowling is about as 'delicate' as an elephant falling down a set of stairs. The second caller sounds like an absolutely awful person and she's convinced she's right.

    • @JFSebastian-j3m
      @JFSebastian-j3m 18 дней назад +13

      Exactly. She's made ZERO effort to be reasonable with the other side

    • @JC-1405
      @JC-1405 18 дней назад +11

      @@JFSebastian-j3m Four years ago or so, she was using language that gave her some level of plausible deniability under the guise of 'genuine concerns', whereas now she's not even attempting to hide her dislike of trans people.

    • @marktaylor4116
      @marktaylor4116 17 дней назад +3

      why ? for stating fact that a woman is an adult female. Sort you're life out

    • @JFSebastian-j3m
      @JFSebastian-j3m 17 дней назад +1

      @@marktaylor4116 subbed to Dave Rubin, Andrew Bridgen and Dan Wooton.....

    • @JC-1405
      @JC-1405 17 дней назад +3

      @@JFSebastian-j3m Plus Joey Barton, KJK, Paul Joseph Watson and more. It's like a collection of all the most smug, far right mouthpieces on RUclips.

  • @dangumbo4835
    @dangumbo4835 18 дней назад +11

    The contrast between the last caller and the second caller is night and day. One has intellect, hope and passion. The second has fear, hate and can't even string a sentence together. If only the second caller had the depth of character to listen to people who are more like the last caller, the country would be doing far better.

  • @tabithabex
    @tabithabex 18 дней назад +16

    Sorry but the second person is so ill informed. Does she even know any trans people personally to have asked what they think? Third caller helped me regain the will to live after the second ones diatribe, thank you caller !

  • @kevwatts1328
    @kevwatts1328 18 дней назад +74

    If you're shocked or amazed that she said it, then you haven't been paying attention.

    • @Edward-cv2gw
      @Edward-cv2gw 18 дней назад +2

      I'm cheering what she said as a normal chap,not a far left activist

    • @kevwatts1328
      @kevwatts1328 18 дней назад +8

      @@Edward-cv2gw back under your bridge, troll

    • @bardsamok9221
      @bardsamok9221 18 дней назад +4

      ​@@kevwatts1328Well said.

    • @sonofsomerset1695
      @sonofsomerset1695 18 дней назад +2

      You havent been paying attention if you think changing kids gender isnt a sick thing to support, what's wrong with you people!?!

    • @Edward-cv2gw
      @Edward-cv2gw 18 дней назад

      @@kevwatts1328 I know LBC is left wing safe space for you,but I'm no troll. I am though normal,conservative and British with common sense opinions which might be an even more offensive species to you.

  • @sandyfitzgerald7652
    @sandyfitzgerald7652 18 дней назад +34

    What a breath of fresh air from the last caller, absolutely spot on!

    • @sonofsomerset1695
      @sonofsomerset1695 18 дней назад +1

      You mean he parroted all the things youve been brainwashed with.

  • @czarekp3552
    @czarekp3552 18 дней назад +121

    She's your girl, Iain.... Own it

    • @danielbanbury378
      @danielbanbury378 18 дней назад +12

      Different as she's attacking himself, but was totally fine when she was attacking everyone else

    • @sonofsomerset1695
      @sonofsomerset1695 18 дней назад

      Let's see if the left own it when power prices go though the roof when windmills cant run the country like dumb Labour think they can.

  • @debb6393
    @debb6393 18 дней назад +49

    What a wonderful caller at the end, fantastic listen 👏👏👏

    • @sonofsomerset1695
      @sonofsomerset1695 18 дней назад

      Because he parroted all the things youve been brainwashed with.

  • @mollyschannel9234
    @mollyschannel9234 18 дней назад +12

    Give that Man (calling in) a medal!!... He speaks a lot of sense!!👏👏👏👏

  • @ggunga7764
    @ggunga7764 18 дней назад +39

    3rd caller: well done 👍👍👍👍👍

  • @samim9533
    @samim9533 18 дней назад +10

    I applauded the brother that spoke! 👏👍🏼👍🏼

  • @callumpascoe8857
    @callumpascoe8857 18 дней назад +16

    That final caller spoke the words in my head man 👌🏼👌🏼

  • @charlespirate1
    @charlespirate1 18 дней назад +65

    This caller “ I hate bigotry” “I thought about voting reform” lol lol lol

  • @arnoldrimmer4025
    @arnoldrimmer4025 18 дней назад +32

    First they came for the Communists
    And I did not speak out
    Because I was not a Communist
    Then they came for the Socialists
    And I did not speak out
    Because I was not a Socialist
    Then they came for the trade unionists
    And I did not speak out
    Because I was not a trade unionist
    Then they came for the Jews
    And I did not speak out
    Because I was not a Jew
    Then they came for me
    And there was no one left
    To speak out for me
    The writer of this poem is Martin Niemöller, he was a German pastor who happily held antisemitic views and supported the Nazis. Up until he was imprisoned when he protested against them taking over the church and was sent to a concentration camp.
    He was happy to support his party in attacking all these other groups until they came for the one he belonged to. Something to think about Ian...

  • @gautamdev165
    @gautamdev165 18 дней назад +94

    That last caller was awesome !!! Give him a regular spot.

    • @wofutokerati
      @wofutokerati 18 дней назад +3

      @@gautamdev165 Ayo > Iain

  • @uniquerebeljaney3639
    @uniquerebeljaney3639 18 дней назад +55

    The last caller is brilliant and spot on.

  • @shkelqimgjergjizi9129
    @shkelqimgjergjizi9129 18 дней назад +45

    Last guy it’s a legend, on point every time.

  • @Shaddowkhan
    @Shaddowkhan 18 дней назад +26

    Caller 3# was cooking.

  • @alidawson6118
    @alidawson6118 18 дней назад +10

    What a breath of fresh air the gentleman was after listening to the first two bigots.

  • @example306
    @example306 18 дней назад +9

    "My head said Conservative my heart said Reform" and she's out here complaining that Suella is saying bigoted nonsense?!?!? ... Jesus wept

  • @xwize
    @xwize 17 дней назад +6

    Caller 3 spitting facts like a maniac, that truth cut like a knife, props to the man

  • @benji.B-side
    @benji.B-side 18 дней назад +6

    Nice to see Ian Dale humbled by the last caller. He was spot on in what he said.

  • @happycamper90596
    @happycamper90596 18 дней назад +36

    Last caller is spot on. What a legend.

  • @dawnivison7678
    @dawnivison7678 18 дней назад +99

    The last caller was spot-on.

  • @gadfageyar
    @gadfageyar 18 дней назад +10

    When that man says "now they're coming for you Iain," the look on his face!

  • @AmandaJAart
    @AmandaJAart 18 дней назад +7

    My 18yr does not deserve any of this hatred that is been directed at him. I'm a very proud parent, for so many reasons, the main one being that my child is just the loveliest person you could ever meet. I bet caller number two's parents couldn't say anything of the like about her. From what I've heard, she's obnoxious.

  • @PartTimeDrift
    @PartTimeDrift 18 дней назад +11

    Never thought I’d see the day in my lifetime that people get worked up over flags. People seriously need to get a grip on reality and life.

    • @kevino4372
      @kevino4372 17 дней назад

      It's what the flag represents. It creeps in to society..affects kids thinking, affects the next generation. Cirus on tour

  • @hohohohehehe6910
    @hohohohehehe6910 18 дней назад +9

    Imagine being proud to be right wing

  • @lukes568
    @lukes568 18 дней назад +101

    I can’t believe she is this against bigotry, but would vote reform. Who would definitely say similar things

    • @chriswilkinson7636
      @chriswilkinson7636 18 дней назад

      Reform are basically a more extreme hate mongering version of the Tories.

    • @ChrisumChrisumChrisum666
      @ChrisumChrisumChrisum666 18 дней назад +3

      That's because you are a bit simple.

    • @lukes568
      @lukes568 18 дней назад +3

      @@ChrisumChrisumChrisum666 how so mate?

    • @ChrisumChrisumChrisum666
      @ChrisumChrisumChrisum666 18 дней назад +1

      @@lukes568 You're at your best when you're unconscious.

    • @lukes568
      @lukes568 18 дней назад

      @@ChrisumChrisumChrisum666 how so?

  • @Cw90118
    @Cw90118 18 дней назад +80

    Iain still supports the Conservative party... so excuse me if I don't buy his false outrage.

    • @dextercool
      @dextercool 18 дней назад +8

      Supports? He wanted to run for parliament as a Tory!

    • @jfr1995
      @jfr1995 18 дней назад +1

      That's the point though. You can support a party and disagree with something one of its members says. Why do you think political infighting is such a thing?

    • @slenda8205
      @slenda8205 18 дней назад +3

      @@jfr1995 so at what point would you take back your support if you don’t believe in what they stand for?

    • @jfr1995
      @jfr1995 18 дней назад

      @@slenda8205 That’s a separate question really and one I haven’t really thought about. I stand by my original point that you don’t have to agree with every single thing a politician in a party you support says. This is one of the problems with tribal politics. People think they have to be 100% aligned with their political party’s message. People tend to be much more nuanced than that, and agree with some things and not with others. We are people, not sheep.

    • @karmaascendant3936
      @karmaascendant3936 18 дней назад +1

      @@jfr1995that’s the problem though.
      Dale was perfectly willing to run for THIS version of the Tory party. The version that mocks trans people in front of the parents of children who were murdered for being trans. The version that complains about the immigration that they increase. The version that complains about taxes that they waste and corruptly share with their friends and families. He still genuinely believes that this should be the people who should run our country and believed it was correct for the last 14 years.
      This isn’t a Braverman exclusive ideology. All the ministers under her, the ministers at cabinet and Sunak himself have all defended her when she made similar statements in the past . That’s all of the party’s best and brightest. He wanted to join them.

  • @CRingsing
    @CRingsing 18 дней назад +90

    Not convinced your right-wing callers are doing the Tories any favours 😂😂😂 When you say more ‘right-wing’, I assume you mean bigoted, or ??

    • @Unchainedboar
      @Unchainedboar 18 дней назад +9

      pretty much...

    • @bibsp3556
      @bibsp3556 18 дней назад +10

      They mean more hateful, yes

    • @itsagoal182
      @itsagoal182 18 дней назад

      If facts are bigoted then so be it. The Cass report debunked this ideology yet the extreme left still continue to support cutting up children.
      The left approach this under the guise of sympathy, but the mask has well and truly slipped and we all can see this now.

  • @wofutokerati
    @wofutokerati 18 дней назад +44

    The second caller thinks there’s “been no debate” on gender ideology and transitioning? Conservatism is jamming your fingers in your ears and humming when you don’t like what you hear!

    • @bibsp3556
      @bibsp3556 18 дней назад +2

      They literally just purposefully don't learn anything

    • @gipgap4
      @gipgap4 18 дней назад

      There is no such thing as transitioning.

    • @bibsp3556
      @bibsp3556 18 дней назад +8

      @@gipgap4 citation needed

    • @gipgap4
      @gipgap4 18 дней назад

      @@bibsp3556 no citations needed for complete fiction.

    • @PaulaXism
      @PaulaXism 18 дней назад +1

      @@gipgap4 citation needed

  • @jamescain707
    @jamescain707 18 дней назад +7

    That last caller is 100% on point. They are unserious.

  • @christopheroconnor81
    @christopheroconnor81 18 дней назад +31

    A right winger horrified by Cruel Braverman? Irony is dead.

    • @sonofsomerset1695
      @sonofsomerset1695 18 дней назад

      It's funny how the left think they are the caring side, when they go around calling people gammons and wishing Brexit voters were dead, marching against jews, assualting anyone against Hamas. Yes, irony is clearly dead.

  • @alana8863
    @alana8863 18 дней назад +41

    Keep going, Suella, you'll keep the Tories out of government for a long, long time.

  • @Asadkhan-pe2je
    @Asadkhan-pe2je 18 дней назад +10

    I'm not left or right, I am a human being!!!
    Treat all people as human beings regardless of your personal views.
    Too much hate mongering going on.

  • @jameshart3879
    @jameshart3879 18 дней назад +23

    2:18 "vote reform they were saying what i agree with" and you're ANGRY at the tories????? Someone square this circle for me

    • @sonofsomerset1695
      @sonofsomerset1695 18 дней назад

      Easy, Reform are much better than the tory/labour partnership.
      If you'd been paying attention instead of being manipulated by establishment propaganda you would know this.

  • @badgerbane
    @badgerbane 18 дней назад +10

    My wife said when she saw this; "it's like she's forgotten that even though she's in America we can still hear her".

  • @jackperry2821
    @jackperry2821 18 дней назад +22

    Feel sorry for the second caller in a weird way, she's so far down the dailymail and reddit rabbithole that she can't see real life. She'd be the classic example of ending up having a Trans child and dramatically altering view because it's happened to her.
    Too many people in this country lack empathy

    • @CurtalA
      @CurtalA 18 дней назад +4

      Hateful people are always miserable inside. Small mercies and all that

  • @sevecc939
    @sevecc939 17 дней назад +4

    That guy's rant was amazing. That is how most people think. Russell Howard did say great skit on culture wars and nobody really caring.

  • @poshiesymons666
    @poshiesymons666 18 дней назад +20

    The last caller 🤘

  • @40yearoldvirgil15
    @40yearoldvirgil15 18 дней назад +87

    Snowflake conservatives 😂

    • @Stan_55UK
      @Stan_55UK 18 дней назад +1

      I have been having similar thoughts. Amazing how the tables turn?

    • @stobeszx9674
      @stobeszx9674 18 дней назад

      Left wing are snowflakes in every possible connotation....they prove it, time after time

  • @Carlos12330
    @Carlos12330 18 дней назад +9

    These Tories only concern is that Braverman is looking more and more deranged and them even less acceptable,I don’t hear any of them calling out 14 years of austerity which destroyed millions of lives!!

  • @GEricG
    @GEricG 18 дней назад +18

    Braverman knows her audience. She either gets the leadership or she'll find another avenue for making money by being controversial.

    • @Adamtendo_player_1
      @Adamtendo_player_1 18 дней назад +1

      Suella Braverman and Katie Hopkins are one and the same.

    • @EpicAelflaed
      @EpicAelflaed 18 дней назад +1

      @@Adamtendo_player_1love em

    • @EpicAelflaed
      @EpicAelflaed 18 дней назад +1

      She talks common sense

  • @Sherlika_Gregori
    @Sherlika_Gregori 18 дней назад +59

    I don’t understand. Isn’t this presenter a ‘proud’ Tory supporter ?

    • @bardsamok9221
      @bardsamok9221 18 дней назад +6

      They're mainly in it for handing financial advantages to those who need them least

    • @mrdaveythebaby
      @mrdaveythebaby 17 дней назад

      @@Sherlika_Gregori he tried to stand as a Tory candidate...

    • @user-dm5ph5zh7l
      @user-dm5ph5zh7l 14 дней назад

      Absolutely

  • @simonmoseley2198
    @simonmoseley2198 18 дней назад +106

    The saddest thing for me having grown up and still live in Fareham is that she thinks she's been elected on this rhetoric.

    • @gabrielmurphy3405
      @gabrielmurphy3405 18 дней назад +12

      I think it was more being voted in on tribalism. If it was rhetoric then Reform would have won.

    • @MandyAustin-nl4cn
      @MandyAustin-nl4cn 18 дней назад +5

      Braverman has read the CASS Review while you haven't even heard of it. That's the difference between people who understand the points she is making.

    • @jameshart3879
      @jameshart3879 18 дней назад +27

      ​@@MandyAustin-nl4cn Is that the widely scientifically lambasted and criticized Cass review per chance?

    • @geeksworkshop
      @geeksworkshop 18 дней назад +3

      Pretty much she was! People know who she is and what she represents.

    • @geowoo8884
      @geowoo8884 18 дней назад +7

      This lady is dangerous.

  • @papylecelte9916
    @papylecelte9916 18 дней назад +50

    What I find amazing, is these people after being mislead, lied to, and deprived of their right by the 14 years of disastrous Conservative rules, still vote for them and complain about them. Masochism can be a political strategy, and these people like it.

    • @robinholland1136
      @robinholland1136 18 дней назад

      It's typical 'cult' behaviour. Even when presented with irrefutable evidence, it is extremely difficult for members of a cult to disabuse themselves and admit that they have been duped and controlled, to the extent that independent thinking becomes impossible.

    • @Khalkara
      @Khalkara 18 дней назад

      I don't think they like it, they're just brainwashed to disregard how it negative affects them.

  • @whackeryounis
    @whackeryounis 18 дней назад +53

    I love how people get so frustrated about less than 1% of the population. it's relatively easy to ignore and get on with your life. it also shows how they have no idea about what people want to deal with. trans issues affect such a minority that it really shouldn't be at the forefront of any political party when the country is so broken.

    • @davidatkinson5858
      @davidatkinson5858 18 дней назад +1

      They generally don't care until that less than 1%population demographic starts trying to dictate which opinions they're allowed to have

    • @ricardocima
      @ricardocima 18 дней назад +1

      No its easy to ignore, since it's all over the place in the media and culture , even with a flag in public buildings.

    • @AshOwnz9
      @AshOwnz9 18 дней назад +4

      @ricardocima ?

    • @ricardocima
      @ricardocima 18 дней назад

      @@AshOwnz9 ?

    • @bibsp3556
      @bibsp3556 18 дней назад +12

      Why ignore it? There's no issue. There's just a lot of sad right wingers living in their feelings, rather than reality

  • @ultimatesnacks6190
    @ultimatesnacks6190 18 дней назад +4

    “Middle class trans children” what on earth is that woman ranting about.

    • @PaulaXism
      @PaulaXism 18 дней назад

      She read it in the Mail.. which of course makes it all true and the right thing to think..... "Hurrah for the Blackshirts" - lest we forget.

  • @daveygee434
    @daveygee434 18 дней назад +73

    ROFL. Isn’t this the guy who FAILED to become a vile Tory politician? Now having the cheek to criticise others? So funny. Why are all Tories such horrible people!?

    • @mogznwaz
      @mogznwaz 18 дней назад +3

      Just listen to yourself
      ‘Why are [people with different views to mine] such horrible people?’

    • @V4Now
      @V4Now 18 дней назад +3

      ​@@mogznwaztake what he said in the context of 14 years of Tories doing horrible things. Blatantly horrible things. Frequently.

    • @Khalkara
      @Khalkara 18 дней назад +6

      @@mogznwaz Dave didn't suggest that anyone with a different view to theirs are horrible people, he suggested that conservatives specifically are all horrible people.
      Also, do you have any actual rebuttal to this? No? Then sit down.

    • @shaun906
      @shaun906 18 дней назад

      @@mogznwaz tories are the nasty party, own it!

    • @shaun906
      @shaun906 18 дней назад

      @@Khalkara i agree!

  • @hanselmansell7555
    @hanselmansell7555 18 дней назад +13

    These Tories are so mindless, they ignor facts and fear everything

    • @sonofsomerset1695
      @sonofsomerset1695 18 дней назад

      Dont worry, Reform will replace the Tory/Labour circus at the next election.

  • @bennyk3799
    @bennyk3799 17 дней назад +3

    Am I the only person that doesn't see a pride flag everyday.. Or encounter mobs of trans persons....

  • @hannuala-olla4302
    @hannuala-olla4302 18 дней назад +23

    If this 'trans-ideology' is so dangerous, it should be possible to *show* that it is. Not just claims that it is.

    • @tonihunnisett4302
      @tonihunnisett4302 18 дней назад +3

      You need to open your eyes and ears if you think it hasn't been shown to be dangerous- talk to parents of children who have been captured by this evil ideology

    • @CuriousCrow-mp4cx
      @CuriousCrow-mp4cx 18 дней назад

      I think you should take your own advice, and provide evidence for your claims.

    • @philthrelfall5294
      @philthrelfall5294 18 дней назад +4

      ​@@tonihunnisett4302Where is the EVIDENCE? Not opinions, theories or prejudices, but the EVIDENCE?

    • @sonofsomerset1695
      @sonofsomerset1695 18 дней назад

      @@philthrelfall5294 would you like evidence for the Earth being round to? Typical Labour voter.

    • @tonihunnisett4302
      @tonihunnisett4302 18 дней назад

      @@philthrelfall5294 read the cass report for starters!

  • @ConfydeMusic
    @ConfydeMusic 18 дней назад +6

    Third caller was absolutely right on the money. If your main concern is culture war bs about the existence of trans people rather than the cost of living crisis or the collapse if public services then you are deluded and need to find some real problems

  • @liambrophy6542
    @liambrophy6542 18 дней назад +9

    Give the last guy a slot on that station 👏🏼

    • @EpicAelflaed
      @EpicAelflaed 18 дней назад

      But like him they don’t mention the mass uncontrolled immigration along with the crimes being committed or the gru Ming gangs

    • @sonofsomerset1695
      @sonofsomerset1695 18 дней назад

      Yep, LBC love deluded lefties like him, he will fit right in with the like of James OBrien's bitterness and jealousy.

  • @dvinci2713
    @dvinci2713 18 дней назад +5

    But someone voted for her, she kept her seat! I don't get the shock horror of these Tories who ultimately enabled these bigots. Take some responsibility.

  • @hazrover
    @hazrover 18 дней назад +4

    Last caller was absolutely on fire, top bloke!

  • @colinbrown7305
    @colinbrown7305 18 дней назад +3

    The last guy is spot on. He is basically speaking my internal monologue out loud.
    I'd go for a beer with that guy.

  • @TranquiloTrev
    @TranquiloTrev 18 дней назад +27

    Ian complaining about the Tory Party, when he was one of their media enablers.

    • @sonofsomerset1695
      @sonofsomerset1695 18 дней назад

      Dont worry about them, Reform are the future now, the old establishment of tory/Labour are on their way out as the election showed.

  • @castortroy5263
    @castortroy5263 18 дней назад +12

    A classic case of “it’s not happening unless it’s happening to me”

  • @Dave-kg9bb
    @Dave-kg9bb 18 дней назад +13

    First caller - 'can't believe how bigoted she is', moments later 'heart said vote reform'. Same caller but unable to see the irony in probably under a minute of conversation.

  • @2011minos
    @2011minos 18 дней назад +5

    I think as an British Asian I believe that non white non majority politicians must never lead Britain. There are valid psychological and political reasons.