Why Jimin can NEVER “fix” his Busan Dialect | BTS Analyzed
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- Опубликовано: 5 июн 2024
- Today’s episode is all about Jimin, who’s known in BTS for his dancing skills.
In this series I analyze the Korean speaking of the music group BTS (방탄소년단). As a Korean teacher I’ll share my opinions on how each member sounds, what dialect they use (if any), as well as any unique expressions, and their personalities while speaking Korean.
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00:00 Intro
00:58 Who is Jimin?
01:38 Start the Analysis
02:14 Jimin’s Polite Speech
08:26 Jimin’s Common Expressions
09:58 Jimin’s Handwriting
13:34 Jimin’s Dialect
17:19 Conclusion
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There's a running theory around the fandom that Jimin writes more formally when addressing the fans to hopefully make his message easier to translate. Jimin's messages and letters are the ones that auto-translate works best with.
G DRAGON KING ,
@@himaririku9254 who?
I agree! Especially when he writes long letters to fans, usually translates accurately.
Yep, that's so cute for him
@@himaririku9254 in your dreams 😂
Jimin's angry satoori is one of my favourite things LOL I would absolutely watch a longform video of him snapping at BTS in satoori, especially JK. Thank you for this video!
Yeah haha, I‘d love to watch that too. I‘m looking forward to Jk‘s satori analysis now. I‘m just in love with Jikook speaking in their dialect.
Ha yeah. There are a few clips out there with both of them yelling at the others in their dialect at the same time, and it's the best.
G DRAGON KING ,
“Once you JimIN you can’t JimOUT” 😭
This is gonna be the quote of this video...
True❤
Indeed
Yes
as soon as he said this I knew he had truly understood and would appreciate our Park Jimin 😌
“…Jimin’s jokes tend to be less cringey” 😂😂😂 (meanwhile, Jin making dad jokes to newbie soldiers at army base)
Hahaha. I can imagine that as it seems to be the reality 🤭🤭
8:44 even in the run bts episode 65 where they did the forbidden word debate, the members pick "I think" as Jimin's forbidden word beacause he uses that word a lot 😆
Goddamn they’re so devious
That was a mistranslation. If you go back to the episode, you'll notice the word they picked is completely different from the expression mentioned here. What they picked is more or less a polite first person pronoun. They also picked the same word for a few other members as well
@@sakuramotomiya9537 I always thought that was confusing in that particular episode, the subs were so weird! Because the subtitles said V's words were now and a little and he got sprayed a ton yet I never saw those words in the subtitles 😅. I figured the subtitles just weren't translating what his actually forbidden words were properly (same with jimin)
I always liked listening to Jimin even if I can't understand all the words he says. He always speaks so softly, almost whispery at times. Not surprised he's so polite with his words.
Translators always talking how Jimin send messages on weverse to us, in a way we can translates by ourself, right and easy, cause he uses formal speech. It's very sweet of him 🤧
As you can see from Billy's video, Jimin is the one who uses honorifics most routinely and consistently. In Korea, it is said that '예의범절' is important, and the reason for this seems to be explained a lot in his growing up environment. He first studied martial arts such as "Kendo" and "Hapkido" for a long time from a very young age, and even in modern times in Korea, the group that puts the most importance on manners is the people who learn martial arts. And the second is school. Especially, he majored in dance at an art high school. In schools with 'modern dance/ballet major' like Korean art high schools, the rules between seniors and juniors are even more strict. Because of his background, it is a habit for him to keep very strict courtesy to his brothers and seniors. Therefore, his personality is a factor that can be easily adapted even in the military, one of the strictest places in Korea. So I think Jimin will do very well in the army.
I hope so🙏💜
Jimin’s usage of 것 같아요 to me, sounds kind of passive…very Libra of him (I am a Libra and do the same😂)
11:06 we armys believe Jimin's writing is very correct and formal because he does it so it'll translate well on machine translations. So no slang, odd sentences or anything like that. His are the only posts that are always perfectly readable on google translate
Aww..that’s so thoughtful & cute of him 🥹🫰🏼
Jungkook purposefully speaks to Jimin (mostly) without honorifics to annoy him. It always works 🤣🤣🤣
Jongkook can get away with that when he's joking, but this is similar for any native Korean speaker. When joking, you can get away with not following the standard politeness levels. But for regular speech, he'll still need to speak politely when required.
@@GoBillyKorean it is true that it’s usually in a joking context. Jimin’s reactions to it are always gold regardless 🤭
Jimin is not just a bit of a perfectionist, he is really a perfectionist, esp. on himself. He’s his own hardest critic.
Wow I'm totally loving these series!! It's so fun, specially for those of us learning Korean! To me, Jimin’s handwriting is actually the easiest to understand out of all the members. Thank you so much for putting out this amazing content! 너무 감사합니다 선생님 ^^
When you said Jimin is a perfectionist. You ain't wrong. Jimin himself admitted to being one. I don't necessarily view it as something negative. However, Jimin has this habit of overexerting himself to the point of sacrificing his health. As someone who has been his fan for quite a long time now, I can say he has gradually made it upon himself to love himself more now (his FACE album is an excellent example of his inner thoughts). I am very glad to be his fan since he's an inspiration to me. Someone who is already very talented but amidst all that, he isn't slacking in any way nor form, to the point people call Jimin "The Hardworking Genius".
Yeah like his hyung Suga said, "if hard work was a talent, you would be a genius"😊💜
Jimin’s the most respectful guy ever😍
I love when Jimin is playfully angry.
Everyone knows he's a perfectionist. He's so hard on himself
Basically, a soft-spoken man! It's very cool how you can pick that up from his tone, body language, context, and tears of hearing Korean, even without studying the language. But these videos are so fascinating and informative... thank you for sharing your knowledge! 💜
Yes. Jimin is widely known by Koreans to be a perfectionist who thinks deeply, is self aware and extremely considerate of others. Your analysis was good.
I remember Jimin talking about how he got bullied for his dialect when he went to school in Seoul during his trainee days. But jokes on them, he's a number 1 Billboard Hot 100 singer as both a soloist and member of BTS.
this is not true. He has never said he was bullied in Seoul bc of his accent/dialect.
that's not true
It's just rumor
he never said that
People should really start checking sources when they pass around personal information so casually
To me, Jimin has the prettiest (aka most readable to a non-Korean like me) handwriting out of the 7 것 같아요 . Thank you for sharing Jimin dialect, it helps us understand him more. 😊
I love to hear Jimin sing....to me it's like he has a French sound to his voice, very different and unique ❤
Really loving this series - thanks!
I've heard on more than one occasion that while Jimin's family had hoped he would pursue more academic professions, his father said that from an early age Jimin was able to articulate in a formal manner his desire to be a performer. It was so well done his father felt he could not deny his son's wishes.
^_^
This series is very interesting. I was waiting for Jimin's episode. It is very easy to understand when Jimin talks. He speaks very clearly and calmly.
When you mentioned that jimin is a bit of a perfectionist thats when i know that youre doing a rlly good analysis. Its cool youre able to notice that part of him through his speech. Jimin is rlly hard on himself (especially compared to the other members) there r vids and clips of him crying just bc he cracked his voice or when his mic fell off. He doesnt like making mistakes at all to the point that he would bawl his eyes out of frustration and honestly its quite hurting to see him in that kind of state.
yeah but fortunately it doesn't linger in his mind as he said on his vlive.
In impolite world, politeness is kinda charm❤
I’m Korean and this was such a fun video, thank you! If I may add, at 7:30 jimin says 뭐 하시는거에요? Not 뭐야? I think jimin often enjoys joking by speaking more formally to amp up the dramatic effect as well :) I think Korean Army may have noticed this too, but one of my favourite speech habit of Jimin is when he says ‘그러머는’ and ‘하머는’ instead of ‘그러면’ and ‘하면’. He even spells it as “하‘머’는“ the way he speaks. It’s not quite a Busan dialect so I think it’s just his own little quirk or possibly a family dialect? It’s super adorable :)
What do those phrases you typed in Korean mean?
*JIMIN IS VERY CONSIDERATE PERSON. I NOTICE THAT WHEN EVER HE WROTE LETTER IN WEVERSE TO ARMYS IT EASY TO UNDERSTAND THE AUTO ENGLISH TRANS. COMPARE TO OTHER MEMBERS POST.*
hi jimin just naturaly has a soft gentle voice even in his singing just love his voice
Jimin yelling in RunBTS! gives me life lmao I love him 💜
As far as I‘ve understood it (but my Korean isn’t good, so it’s what people have told me), Jimin tends to write as formally and correctly as possible when speaking to ARMY so that it is easier to translate (especially on Weverse where many rely on automatic translation) 😊
Jimin's dialect usage is very charming. When he starts yelling it in RUN BTS eps it is just sooo funny. "I WONT DO IT!!!" "YOU CAN FIGHT?!?!"
Jimin is known for being good mannered and modest person.
I am so fascinated by your videos!! I love learning about Jimin's politeness! I had suspected as much!!!
Once again really enjoying this series. Another thing some of us have noticed about Jimin is that when he types out a post to ARMY on Twitter or Weverse, he makes word and grammar choices that the terrible machine translators actually translate in a clear, understandable way. I don't know if that's a result of his generally polite speech to us, or if he chooses to write that way for us. I love Jimin. He's a sweetheart. 🤗
No it’s actual very true, Jimin is a perfectionist, also he’s very hard working.
Ah we love our kind and polite man Jimin. Also, I wish people didn’t feel the need to get rid of their dialect, I really like it! Everyone is different, many Koreans speak that way, too, so it’s ok!
He is a perfectionist
Thanks again for this analysis. It appears that his speech fits well with his personality which, even though he is an extrovert, appears modest and somewhat self-depreciating. He often seeks affirmation from the other members. According to others he is extremely hardworking and a perfectionist. It also seems that he is often genuinely not aware of how talented he actually is, and he is surprised and grateful for his success.
As a BTS fan (army),I have enjoyed all of these so much! I wonder if you'd ever analyse their lyricism and style (especially rapline- rm, jhope and Suga, since it's more lyric heavy)
I believe all 3 of them have very different approaches to writing- you don't have to be concerned about the musical aspect but purely the vocabulary and intonation
I can't do lyrics due to copyright issues. I would need special permission to do that, or a HUGE Patreon/supporter base so that I could turn off advertisements for those videos.
@@GoBillyKorean ah, understandable!!! Still appreciate all these videos though :)
@@GoBillyKorean oh that would be AMAZING, because we can't enjoy the depth of their raps/wordplay unfortunately
@@GoBillyKorean
I highly doubt that copyright would come into play!! Especially if you don’t play the songs, but just go through and commentate on the lyrics
@@dysmissme7343 I don't believe many people would want to watch such a video, as it might be boring to them to see the lyrics on their own without music.
Jimin sounds very charming
i hope u touch on the fact that jungkook often drops honorifics towards jimin its super sweet! & yes jimin speaks v gently
I was waiting for this episode, I enjoy your bts series so much😊 I love the contrast between Jimin's soft, gentle polite spech and his brash, loud joking around speech.
I have been loving this series thank you for making it. I'm still a beginner at Korean but even still I have found this series invaluable for teaching me more about the language and helping me understand the guys a little bit better. Thank you so much
And in his lives (still up on weverse) I also realise he says "anyway" a lot... and always tries to recompose himself after that.. specially when he was in the decorative room showing the FACE album and teaching the "like crazy" choreo
10/10 would watch an entire video of just Jimin yelling 😂 Thanks for another great analysis.
That's why Jimin is my bias. My polite Jimin boy ❤
lmao now I’m sitting here like “okay Jimin thinks and hopes a lot, got it”
Jimin's also known for his angelic and amazingly unique voice :)
지나가는 한국 아미입니다💜 지민이의 사투리와 농담 분석까지 하시다니 한국어 솜씨가 너무 대단하십니다🙈그리고 영어발음도 명확하고 이해하기가 쉬워서 영어공부에도 도움이 많이 되네요 감사합니다😊👏
hehe cute
수달님 영어 배우기 화이팅!! 👏👏
[edit: i didn’t know using OO씨 can be considered rude >.< so I changed it, I apologize for offending anyone! i’ll use OO님 from now on]
K💎 사랑해요
Well I can't wait til you try to unravel the way Jungkook talks to Jimin hahaha. The soft tones and the lack of honorifics. I think Jimin and Jungkook have a very close bond and see each other as equals at this point. Very interesting!
i'm not sure how long you've been an ARMY, but thank god you became one because this series is one of the best things that has come from this channel
Because of Jimin i able to learn Korean and English as well
I'm really impressed with your ability to sus out their personalities just from analyzing their speech.
It really shows that you enjoy BTS 😅 it’s so nice that Bangtan Boys could make anyone smile 😊 We love them all 💜💜💜JIMINshiiiiiiii
There is Nothing
To Fix!👑💜🥰💜
🙏🏻💜🇬🇧💜
Billy, I'm looking forward to your future "five minutes of Jimin yelling" video! 😂 (But seriously, love the analysis. Thank you!)
Definitely!
It will be hillarious!!
OOOH! You definitely nailed it by saying Jimin is a perfectionist. His polite form of speech and stable tone makes it comparatively easy to understand him without subtitles... Also, google translate is almost accurate because of how he writes/speaks 💜
I love it when Jimin uses the dialect, he sounds so different 😃
But I read in many places that actually Jungkook has a stronger dialect than Jimin if he uses it?
We love his dialect, and his angry screaming in satoori hehehehehehe. I don't mind if you make a video for his angry screaming satoori, we really appreciate it hehehe.
So far my favourite of the series. I could listen to you talk about BTS's Korean all day. Please don't end the series after Jungkook.
I have been waiting for these .
Loving this series
My bias wrecker 😂
Mine too 💜
Me too 😅💜
YES, THANK YOUUUU. I WAITED FOR THISSS. CAN'T WAIT FOR NEXTTT
Is Billy Jimin biased? haha we all would've loved 5 min of Jimin yelling too don't worry
This was so detailed and informative, thanks for putting in the time to research and analyze the members individually! Since 95% of the Korean I hear is spoken by BTS it would be good if I can at least learn a little from them 💜
I was really waiting for this one
Jimin the best. Jimin voice🔥🔥🔥. My bias❤❤❤❤❤
I love this series. Thank you so much
western person with basic knowledge of korean here but sometimes when i read Jiminie's letters and see his lives I just want to tell him please Jimin drop the formal language and honorifics, we're close so speak to me informally! but I suppose that he is a kind and gentle soul and that's how he likes to speak with us. I love him, and I loved this video, thank you.
Well that’s the thing isn’t it, you aren’t close lmao. Besides his formality makes him very easy to translate with online translators
@@jaysax7381 it’s not his formality at writing what makes him more easy to understand by auto translators. You can write informally and still be grammatically correct. But yes you are right we are not ‘technically close’ but I don’t feel it that way! and that’s why in my head I would like him drop that kind of language when he speaks to us but I understand why he does it, he’s just kind to everyone and that’s his way to show respect for other people. Please read my comment this is what I was trying to say.
love this series !!! 💜
He’s a cutie, isn’t he! He is perhaps a tad fastidious and longwinded? I believe it’s because he is so polite and therefore sometimes comes through as vague/layered. I may be wrong.
Gracias x informarnos. Jimin siempre es respetuoso, educado con todos. Jikook x siempre juntos 💛👍💜👑🐰🐰🥰💛💛💛💛💛💛💛💛💛💛💛💛💛💛💛💛💛💛💛💛
These are so interesting 😊 thank you for making this series
I agree, I've loved watching each one
thank you so much for your hard work! I love this series!!!
I love the huge subtitles for the clips! Thank you!!
😊Jimin ssi is very polite when he speaks and I think that’s cool! It fits him. It was the first thing I noticed when I started to get the polite levels down. I also feel like it does make it easier to translate, and sometimes it seems he does that so I-ARMY can translate. (Maybe idk) It just makes him more princely IMO. 😊 His mannerisms are very calm, so yeah I can see that. Love the series!
Thank you Billy. Absolutely loving your ‘BTS’ series, and as Jimin is my bias, I loved this even more. He’s one of the sweetest, kindest, most caring, compassionate and wonderful humans there are. Thank you again. Looking forward to Kim Taehyung next.💜
Thanks for this fun and educational series. You know we will happily watch anything that you make about BTS.
Jimin runs his letters by the staff - & writes them so they are easy to translate for anybody not Korean💜💜- he does this all the time (& always errs on the polite form💜💜)- probably bc when he first wentto Seoul, people would criticisehis accent (& say it could sound impolite🫣💜 - & he had a bit of a hard time with all that, bless his angel-faceu 💜💜PJM worked v hard to even things out & moderate his tone - so he's always careful & they have/had a lot of media training, & he's usually v careful not to let it show too much - even though every time his accent slips out we all swoon🙊💜🥰💜
(Kim Taehyeong even
says on Camera several times: that his own Manager says he "Shouldn't use that Country (Daegu) Dialect"🥺💜 - but that's his Manager; certainly his
Manager has him copy everything
else PJM does on stage - to the point where it gets a bit ridiculous but there it is🙄💜🤭💜
Our Jimina is the Most Talented anywhere👑💜 with the most beautiful voice🎉💜& is endlessly cool & obvs with doubt is the most beautiful man on the Planet🌏💜 I would suggest you do many more videos of PJM; bc that's a sure way to guarantee millions will watch!🤭💜🙏🏻💜🇬🇧💜
wow this was so good and really makes you understand Jimin more and more Thank you !!!
It must be so much fun to understand them using so variable terms. Aaaah why aren't I a Korean.
The algo led me to this channel, and thank you. I’ve enjoyed the analysis with Jimin! It’s very informative and fun😍
Thank you for featuring Jimin, Billy 💜💝
정말 정성이 많이 들어간 영상,,감사합니다
Love your video 💜 Jimin is definately polite and beautiful inside and out. Your video is spot on 💜💜💜
Perfect timing! I just learned 것 같아요 form this week and I already somewhat knew what it meant because Jimin says it so often lol. I love that you pointed this out cause even I noticed it 😅 Looking forward to the next vid!
Enjoyed this video a lot. Jimin has always been polite and you can really tell that he's a good person inside out. Jimin is the guy that every parents would want as a son in law and every woman's dream guy👑❤
You are right about Jimin. You learn a lot about people by listening to how they speak. He is a perfectionist and tries extremely hard to do anything that he does. That very well can be why he is very polite. He works at it. It’s amazing how you noticed that about him just by listening to his speech. Though in this series you keep reminding us that you’re not a native speaker, but you have been speaking Korean for eighteen years. Though I am a beginner, I think you’re doing an awesome job!
I loved this! Jimin's dialect is so comforting to me. I also like how you spoke of his politeness. I would enjoy more clips on Jimin's speech. I think that I'd pay more attention if Jimin's way of speaking was used to learn Korean but you are a close 2nd teacher in my opinion. I have listened to you on Spotify. Thanks for this short video 📹
Ooooh I'm early! Pretty much discovered your channel on my recommendation through your bts videos XDD I've kept up with your uploads ever since and I'm glad I did! I'm trying to pick up learning Korean again and ur videos have been really helpful ^^ I enjoy learning so much about them and seeing how you react to the members too
Love this series!
Ahh I'm excited for Tae's next
Love love love this series! Makes me know more about them as people that I would have no clure about otherwise lol
Thank you for the BTS series. I enjoy these videos very much and it's an interesting way to get to know that by the way they speak Korean.
Thank you for making these videos. Not only do I love learning about how the guys talk (things that non-korean speakers wouldn’t know) but it also motivates me to go study (i’m doing your bkc playlist!)
please do more longer videos of this series 🙏 😭
Been waiting for this. I so love how Jimin speak, he's speaking voice for me sounds unique and distinct but soft at the same time. He's one of the reason why I wanted to learn korean Hoping to see Taehyung next.
This was really interesting!
of course i loved this video 😁😁😁😁😁 what a great series
I have been watching your videos when I have free time since I discovered your channel more than a year ago. But I’ve been busy with work the past month so imagine my surprise as a long-time BTS fan when I saw your BTS Analyzed series!
It’s so timely too that you released analysis on Jimin right around his solo debut (partly the reason that I went back online too!)
Can’t wait for your analyses on Taehyung and Jungkook. Korean speakers tend to comment a lot on how unique Taehyung expresses himself. And then for Jungkook, people have mentioned he can be playful but still respectful towards his hyungs (especially Jin and Jimin).
Looking forward to your videos! 💜
Loving this series! I was really looking forward to Jimin's episode, as I've always had the feeling he'd be the easiest to understand (if I was fluent in Korean!). It's is tone, his choice of words, and the way he puts together sentences - just like many have already mentioned, his letters and written messages are easily translated by the auto translate tools.
I also enjoy his satoori sooooo much, as I feel he enjoys using it in a playful manner ☺
I am now really curious about next episode, I have a feeling you'll have a lot of things to say about Tae's unique language!