Had to reupload due to music copyright shenanigans for the last song. Should be good now lol. Also pls watch this at like 1.2x speed I have no clue how I didn't realize I was talking this slow in my older vids
This was axactely the excusegiven by female runnet running for scotland in a long distance race.she denyed any wrong doing.she was rightly banned..she was a doctor
It’s so absurd, given he’s genuinely won a 10K, and even just running an “okay” marathon 24 hours after the fact honestly would have been impressive. Instead, he pulled this bullshit.
@ShanaPeach-zp9ms Because its shocking how many people do it. Its like theres 1 in 10 people who genuinely dont care about ethics or morals and will do everything in their power to lie, cheat, and steal their way to success.
@@DisDatK9 Look at MMA. A wise man once said: “All these m*********ers on steroids. All of ‘em” If there is something that will give you an advantage to win, people will attempt to do it and find ways to skirt around the rules. This guy was just dumb though.
"A Garmin doesn't work on a bus". I have used several Garmin devices. I can confirm that they in fact do not work on a bus. Instead, they simply explode. Very dangerous. Never take your Garmin on a bus.
In fact, it often offers opportunities to cheat not available to those that lack your skill/talent, and then building a legitimate, credible performance history only better shields one from the scrutiny that may expose cheating later
one of the common defences of cheaters is: "why would I cheat?"; but this case just shows that people will cheat for what seems like no reason whatsoever. people cheat for their own reasons that are unfathomable to the rest of us
Seems like at 20 miles he ran out of steam, saw the bus and took it. Then at finish line he realized that he could just walk through it and "no one would know". Being fatigued I would have given him the benefit of the doubt, his brain would have been begging him to stop running at 20 miles. But his later actions point towards him being the sort to double down and gaslight people.
My defence is “why would I cheat? My time was awful and I came 63rd”. 😂 but I can’t lie very well, so I don’t bother cheating. I took an accidental shortcut in the school cross country regional championship. I realised what I did when I saw everyone doing a big loop that I cut right out. So I immediately told them what I did, even though my shortcut time would’ve placed me 9th. I was actually a sprinter, but I entered everything for the school points.
The reasons aren't unfathomable at all. They cheat because they want to be viewed as a winner. And, if video game speedrunning cheat scandals are anything to go by, it's the ones who are already really good at something who are most likely to cheat. They're closer to the top spot (so they have more to gain), they have the knowledge of what makes a run look convincing, and because they're so good and have worked so hard they may even feel like they deserve it.
Better watch out if you're riding around on a burner Segway while wearing a hoodie & looking shady... authorities might mistake you for a runaway Silicon Valley hacker.
He should have just refused the 3rd place medal the minute he crossed the finish line. Then asked to be placed under DNF for the marathon - citing he was feeling sick & took the bus. No one would've minded. This meant he'd go home with a legit 10k win plus a good future for other competitions. Instead his double downs of lies meant the whole world knows he cannot be trusted- & he's ONLY going to be known for cheating.
If he quit the race, he shouldnt even cross the finish line. Theres no reason to, regardless if it was for 3rd or last place. Just report youre dnf to the organisers.
For sure. That’s why when I used to enter mortal kombat comps back in the day, sub zero was dubbed “sub cheater” due to the glitch that allowed you to do the same move over and over with no way out. So they banned using sub zero. The former top players quickly dropped off the list after that. Mind you, I still lost to a 9 year old Japanese kid that was using Sonja.
I know you're joking but that's the difference. When I was running my ultra I was really struggling around that point. 20 miles in. However my mindset was "I'm finishing this, I'll f'n crawl if if have to." A cheaters mindset always goes to the easy option out.
What an idiot. If he had just taken the loss and maintained his apology he’d at least have his dignity. I respect someone who can apologize far more than a jackass who can’t just move on in his life.
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WTF, man. this is very similar to what some speedrunners do, too. Even experienced/pro speedrunners. They don't get to a goal they want, but due to their pride and self-entitlement since they're already good, they cheat to make it seem like they actually achieved a huge goal. That's the entire psychology behind it lol. and they never feel remorse because they really think they "deserve" it even if they clearly cheated.
it is especially sad when you think they must've trained legitimately for years or decades to get to where they are, just to invalidate their own performance because of some stupid ego
Great video. Thanks for uploading. I’d like to make a couple of points here. 1- Running a fast 10k the day before a marathon isn’t super human. It’s actually a fairly common thing for top club runners. I know many people who run multiple marathons on consecutive days. 2- Running a marathon on a treadmill proves absolutely nothing. You can’t compare treadmill running to competing in a hilly marathon. There’s no question Rob Sloan is a very good runner so I’ve no idea why he did what he did? Don’t think it was planned. He withdrew, made his way to finish and then decided to cross finish line and claim a 3rd place. He just made an incredibly stupid decision which he’ll have to live with. Should’ve just held his hand up, admitted his mistake, took his punishment and moved on. Going on television and protesting his innocence just brings more attention and makes him look stupid. In many ways, I actually feel sorry for him. Rob has tarnished his reputation forever.
My guess is that he withdrew, but when he got to the finish, he realized he could finish 3rd if he pretended he never got on the bus. Given the fact he apologized at first, I think this was all emotional.
The human brain and the reason for rationalizing certain decisions is indeed quite interesting. I think most distance runners are doing it as an effort to push themselves beyond limits that others believe to be impossible and it takes an incredible amount of work and dedication. Take David Goggins for example. In 2020, he ran the Moab 240 (ended up being 255). He had to disqualify himself around mile 200 and was admitted to the hospital for HAPE. After receiving treatment, he went back and finished the remaining 40 miles even though he was disqualified just to finish the race. His motivation is just a personal goal and where he finishes in any given race is typically just a statement to him as to how hard he trained for it. Knowing he finished it, even without anyone but his crew there to witness it, was achieving a personal goal. Then there are others where winning is the all important goal and for whatever reason, are willing to do things that I can only imagine stir in their minds long after whether they’re caught or not. I mean Lance Armstrong’s feats, even though cheating with enhancements, are incredible but I guarantee knowing that he cheated to gain an advantage was stirring in his head even before it was proven. I guess it boils down to, “there are those who aim to please others and receive praise and others simply willing to grind in the darkness while nobody watches with no other goal than to push themselves to their absolute limits”.
Well written post, and I can understand why you'd feel sorry for him, as he has tarnished his reputation, however it goes beyond what he did to himself - the actual 3rd place finisher was initially denied his podium position. As a runner he'd have known exactly what his fellow competitors go through in chasing their goals. He'll have known exactly what the real 3rd place finisher went through in training, preparation and on the day itself, yet he was more than happy to steal this accomplishment from a fellow runner - it's difficult to feel sorry for someone who does that. Similarly when elite athletes are denied their moment of glory by a cheat. Receiving a medal weeks or months after the event sure cannot compare to standing on the podium at the time. I'd be devastated, after putting in years of dedication, sacrifice and hard work, only to have that moment stolen from me. Yes, you've eventually received the correct medal and recognition, but you can't ever get back that moment in time when you climb onto the podium, flags being raised, and if a winner, your national anthem being played - there's simply no way to rectify that - receiving a medal after the fact cannot come close.
@@ianmacfarlane1241 I despise any form of cheating so would never defend this guy. I just find the situation sad. As you rightfully say, a person has been denied their place on the podium and that is so unfair.
@@MrCol104 Sorry, I wasn't trying to suggest that you were attempting to defend him - I do understand that you were merely pointing what damage he'd done to himself and his previously unblighted reputation. "In many ways I actually feel sorry for him" - that is perfectly reasonable, and speaks volumes about your objectivity and fairness when looking at a situation. I don't disagree - he did more harm to himself than anyone else - prematurely ending a decent amateur athletics career, and making himself look ridiculous by not admitting his actions. I was just adding another viewpoint, as the other competitors are often overlooked in these situations.
His 10K pace translated to marathon pace using the normal formula would give him a time right on 3 hours. A 2:50 time would be about 2300m in front of that - virtually impossible for someone of his calibre. Also it seems his training was unlikely to have been particularly marathon-centric.
How could he not know the people along the road and on the bus were smart, had good eyesight, and were knowledgeable about the race going on beside them. How insulting to all these bystanders. What an arse.
@@phillawrence5148 because your original comment suggests otherwise. Being good enough to win a 10k doesn’t really mean much in a marathon, hence the cheating.
@@phillawrence5148 being good enough to win a 10k doesn’t really mean much in a marathon. That’s a 20!mile difference. Are you just going to ignore that part in order to feel like you’re right? Your original comment is like saying “if you’re good enough to win a go-cart race, cheating in a formula 1 is beyond stupidity” when it actually makes sense a go-cart racer would cheat since he had no chance. Or that’s like saying “if you’re good enough to win a criterium race, cheating in the Tour de France is beyond stupidity” when it actually makes sense because most crit racers don’t have the necessary endurance for the TDF. And there’s plenty of cheaters in the TDF.
I used to be in the Army with this lad. I do t remember him being such a good runner then. Obviously he got into it and became good. But I have one lasting memory of him 😂 he once sniffed petrol out of the Harley motorbike fuel tank.
If he ever dies I hope his Obituary says "Famous for getting high from sniffing petrol and using public transportation to cheat in foot races" 😂 what a way to be remembered
This is my local race and have done it a few times including this one, my guess has always been he dropped out and got the only bus back to the start finish area, once getting off feeling recovered he just thought for a laugh to run across the line not realising the position, then straight away has a camera shoved in his face so just rolled with it. The mistake he made was not coming clean straight after.
I can see being overwhelmed and too scared to speak up for the lady who possibly accidentally got first place when she cheated the Boston marathon, since she was literally swarmed with people and given a crown and had never ran before. But that was 1st place at Boston. This guy was 3rd place at a local trail run that was more for nature appreciation than anything. I can't imagine it being super overwhelming, especially since he's a very good runner who had just won the 10k and who's probably used to finishing at the top for smaller local events like this.
I think youre being too kind on him. If he quit the race and got the bus to the finish, there is no reason to cross the finish line. He definitly did so purposefully, but probably just for bragging rights at his club, but thats still a shit thing to do
I did an out and back bike race. Gave up half way (handing in my frame number) then riding back on the same course to the finish. Had some conversations on the way where it was impossible to get my point across and just went along with it.. so the race day stuff is all fine and forgivable. Doubling down just seems odd
262 giving him the stink eye while being interviewed is one of the front row starters shown earlier. I’m sure he wondered where this guy magically appeared from at the end.
Winning the 10k and then getting top ten in the full would have been an amazing achievement, shame he had to throw that all away for just that little bit more.
I haven't raced for about 3 years now, but I'm hoping to start again in the spring. I'm doing strength training, intervals, track reps etc, also incorporating the essentials, like long runs,uphills, not to mention the right food enough sleep, hydration and what's the other thing...... Oh yeah, bus fare !
I mean…. Cheaters are all lying to begin with? That’s literally how they cheat, they lie about something in order to win so why is it a stretch that they’d also refuse to admit that they cheated and lie about it? People lie all the time to avoid and evade consequences whether those consequences are legal, damage to their reputation, losing their friends/family, career etc or even just the shame that comes with whatever the lied about from the public and people he knows personally. It’s not actually sociopathic behavior or else everybody would be a sociopath. It’s actually quite normal to avoid consequences and every single person has done so. It’s just the extent of their lie, what they’ve done and the consequences that make them different.
How do you do the first half of a marathon in 1:27 (97min)then finish at 2:50(170min)=> 170-97= 73 . Even if you're intentionally running first half slow. This is not a Marathon where are there any Elite or sublet runners. I do a half marathon in this time
interesting at work yesterday someone was talking about a guy getting on a bus in a race because someone else was doing a charity race next month.......then this pops up this morning
Amazing how much in denial this dude was, even with all the evidence. I mean, voluntarily providing his garmon data, even though he must have known it'd show the spike! That's just mind-boggling!
That's the type of person that would grab half your 🍟 from your dish if you turn around for a second and blame the seagulls for it while sitting in the desert 😂
I think we are all being petty. They should hold a competition for all these cheaters. And as a non runner. I have mad respect for anyone crazy enough to think it’s enjoyable… but to pretend to be good at something I wouldn’t tell anyone i respected. Truly shows this man have no place in you crazy people or my crazy people.. that’s why they cheat. He’s not even good at lying.. so what is he actually good at
I wonder what explanation he gave for his previous confession and apology? Presumably his club had barred him and he was trying to clear his name but instead just dug himself deeper into the... "mud"...
The correct way to cheat in a marathon like this would be to have yourself transported halfway and then join back in around 20th place, far enough back that it's not super noticeable. Then use the fact that you're well rested to push an insane pace for the second half and catch up to 1st.
They always try angles that only a person who definitely did it would try. "Of course I didn't do it, because first off, look how hard it would be for me to do it!" They've already got the desires and mindset of a cheater in their head, so they just skip to the next argument they think they can win - but they don't realize how damning that is right on the face of it. I have this trouble myself when playing bluffing games - I know I'm bluffing, so I think it's natural that people should suspect me, which makes it obvious.
I cheated once in a run and it wasn't even trying to! I was a young PFC in the Army and had gone out drinking on a Sunday at a local tavern that was hoisting penny beer night (a pitcher of cheap draft for a penny) and I had so many I lost count. That Monday morning during formation the PLT. SGT announced that we were going on a Sargent Majors "fun run" for morning PT and with my hangover all I could think was "oh great" but I was ready to pay the price for it. There was a very heavy fog that morning so to make sure no one got ran over they had the run on the 400 meter track and we would run 8 laps to get in a 2 mile run. After just 2 laps it became pretty obvious to me that I wasn't going to finish in the top 10 and that I also needed to make a pit stop so I could vomit so I got about 8 or 9 feet off of the track and visibility was so low no one could see me. My plan was to fall in with a group of runners at some point and fingers crossed they'd be close to having 8 laps in! So, after a bit of time had passed, I heard some runners approaching and just as they went past, I fell in behind them. Little did I know these were the 6 minute mile guys! Now I was no chump and could hold my own with a 14 to15 min 2 mile but there was no way I was ever pulling off a 12 minute 2 mile....until that day! As I crossed the finish line ahead of the group I joined up with I heard the Commander yell out "11:58" as I looked over and saw him holding up a stopwatch. It didn't go down in the record books or count towards anything...although I am sure my Squad Leader latter wondered how in the hell I outran the entire battalion that one time! 😁
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Had to reupload due to music copyright shenanigans for the last song. Should be good now lol. Also pls watch this at like 1.2x speed I have no clue how I didn't realize I was talking this slow in my older vids
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I came across this story randomly a few weeks ago, you probably did too haha
You're also stealing someone else's content.
This was axactely the excusegiven by female runnet running for scotland in a long distance race.she denyed any wrong doing.she was rightly banned..she was a doctor
I cheated on my wii wii
It’s so absurd, given he’s genuinely won a 10K, and even just running an “okay” marathon 24 hours after the fact honestly would have been impressive. Instead, he pulled this bullshit.
Did he 'genuinly' win the 10k?
@@elliotoliver8679 Damn, good point.....🤔👍
@@DeadFront1319 Yes, he did.
You wrote that better than I could have but 100%. It’s mind boggling.
ego is a hell of a drug
If anything, using public transport in the UK would likely be a disadvantage in a race.
Ha ha ha
Boooom roasted
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lol 😂
lol. You are right. He would have finished the next day 😂
Crazy that he thought that his Garmin splits (which showed a top speed higher than Usain Bolt) would prove that it was a legitimate run.
Tbf when did the big half running according to my garmin, I ran at 2:33 min/k split through the Rotherhithe tunnel 😂
Not the brightest tool !!!!
Not to mention that Bolt is on a flat track and this is crazy elevation/terrain comparatively
@@kellerbailey4353maybe he ran extra fast downhill
Cheaters are never the sharpest tool in the shed 😂
What blows my mind about this topic is that no matter what you are into, there's always someone who is willing to cheat.
why does that "blow your mind". It's no surprise
@ShanaPeach-zp9ms Because its shocking how many people do it. Its like theres 1 in 10 people who genuinely dont care about ethics or morals and will do everything in their power to lie, cheat, and steal their way to success.
how is that shocking. @@DisDatK9
@@DisDatK9 Look at MMA. A wise man once said: “All these m*********ers on steroids. All of ‘em”
If there is something that will give you an advantage to win, people will attempt to do it and find ways to skirt around the rules. This guy was just dumb though.
It blows your mind that people have no ethics? 😂 What cave did you crawled out of?
He wanted to be known as The Kielder Marathon Cheetah, but instead became The Kielder Marathon Cheater
A leopard 🐆 doesn't change its spots
That's a good one😂
The Kielder Marathon Cheata'.
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I mean, his name is Rob.
Had to laugh at his Garmin data showing that he cheated with a big spike in pace, yet he still claims he didn't cheat! 😂
He didn’t cheat
He fell off a steep embankment
"A Garmin doesn't work on a bus". I have used several Garmin devices. I can confirm that they in fact do not work on a bus. Instead, they simply explode. Very dangerous. Never take your Garmin on a bus.
Remember that Seinfeld episode with the head start? He reminds me of that 🤣🤣
I thought his hair looked like that because it was raining but it looks the same indoors in the later interviews
Ricky loves the wet look gel...
at first I was thinking that he had cheated by swimming across to take a shorcut 🤣
Slippery character 🥁😏
😂😂😂
Idk how old you are but this was the main British man hairstyle in the 00s
“Being good doesn’t make you any less likely to cheat.”
-Karl Jobst
In fact, it often offers opportunities to cheat not available to those that lack your skill/talent, and then building a legitimate, credible performance history only better shields one from the scrutiny that may expose cheating later
Yeah like the guy Karl covered who sped up his Guitar Hero runs. It only worked because he was almost that good.
Or the fact one is a narcissistic attention seeking sociopath where winning and attention is everything.
Absolute legends
"I think it's fine for white people to say the N-word when singing hip-hop songs if they are lyrics."
-Karl Jobst
one of the common defences of cheaters is: "why would I cheat?"; but this case just shows that people will cheat for what seems like no reason whatsoever. people cheat for their own reasons that are unfathomable to the rest of us
No reason? It’s a competition; everyone is a competitor 😂
Seems like at 20 miles he ran out of steam, saw the bus and took it. Then at finish line he realized that he could just walk through it and "no one would know". Being fatigued I would have given him the benefit of the doubt, his brain would have been begging him to stop running at 20 miles. But his later actions point towards him being the sort to double down and gaslight people.
@@jamjardj1974right! the will to win is strong in some people and their egos cant take a loss
My defence is “why would I cheat? My time was awful and I came 63rd”. 😂 but I can’t lie very well, so I don’t bother cheating. I took an accidental shortcut in the school cross country regional championship. I realised what I did when I saw everyone doing a big loop that I cut right out. So I immediately told them what I did, even though my shortcut time would’ve placed me 9th. I was actually a sprinter, but I entered everything for the school points.
The reasons aren't unfathomable at all. They cheat because they want to be viewed as a winner.
And, if video game speedrunning cheat scandals are anything to go by, it's the ones who are already really good at something who are most likely to cheat. They're closer to the top spot (so they have more to gain), they have the knowledge of what makes a run look convincing, and because they're so good and have worked so hard they may even feel like they deserve it.
"That's the guy that was on the bus just half n hour ago" 🤣🤣🤣
How embarrassing
Busses, cars, and subways don't work. A well placed burner Segway and a hoodie - now that's a plan.
He probably decided on it spontaneously
Better watch out if you're riding around on a burner Segway while wearing a hoodie & looking shady... authorities might mistake you for a runaway Silicon Valley hacker.
This guy cheats
"Burner Segway" 😂 That's a phrase I never expected to hear!
LOL
When you run at a 30mph pace. that's a Giveaway. 😂
You're going three times as fast as Kipchoge, lol
What if he identifies as an antelope 😂
Not necessarily because the 6 million dollar man did it
I wish I could run that fast. I would be in many places at the same speed as my scooter hahaha would have saved me a lot of money.
@@andrew-rn9ui Maybe an Antenope. 😅
He should have just refused the 3rd place medal the minute he crossed the finish line. Then asked to be placed under DNF for the marathon - citing he was feeling sick & took the bus. No one would've minded. This meant he'd go home with a legit 10k win plus a good future for other competitions. Instead his double downs of lies meant the whole world knows he cannot be trusted- & he's ONLY going to be known for cheating.
right? and he wouldve been seen as a humble person who always wants to improve, even if they know they wont win/wont be the best.
Why even cross the finish line if you didn't actually run the course?
If he quit the race, he shouldnt even cross the finish line. Theres no reason to, regardless if it was for 3rd or last place. Just report youre dnf to the organisers.
Right? I agree. His actions afterwards just made him look foolish. I’m embarrassed for him.
@@reformed_attempt_1because generally the good stuff is past the finish line in the finisher’s area lmfao
What a great running name for the winner. “Ricky lightfoot” was born to be a runner
Haha that’s incredible
Ricky is the great-nephew of Gordon Lightfoot.
One of the best hill-climbing amateur cyclists in the world is a Brit named Andrew Feather.
Even the way he was holding his head after the race, made him look guilty.
Yes, I thought the same immediately. That's a defensive gesture to hide your face
Imagine risking your reputation just to finish in 3rd place 🤷🏻♂️
If video game scandals have taught me anything, it's that it's often *good players* who end up cheating
For sure. That’s why when I used to enter mortal kombat comps back in the day, sub zero was dubbed “sub cheater” due to the glitch that allowed you to do the same move over and over with no way out. So they banned using sub zero. The former top players quickly dropped off the list after that. Mind you, I still lost to a 9 year old Japanese kid that was using Sonja.
Yup. People who are good at what they do are the most likely to cheat.
I ran my first marathon recently... the chance to take a bus for the last 6 miles sounds alright to me!!
I think our buses are so slow, I’d probably come in a slower pace😂
Your right, I take the bus to the gym twice a week...one of these days, I'll actually go in..
I know you're joking but that's the difference. When I was running my ultra I was really struggling around that point. 20 miles in. However my mindset was "I'm finishing this, I'll f'n crawl if if have to." A cheaters mindset always goes to the easy option out.
What an idiot. If he had just taken the loss and maintained his apology he’d at least have his dignity. I respect someone who can apologize far more than a jackass who can’t just move on in his life.
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WTF, man. this is very similar to what some speedrunners do, too. Even experienced/pro speedrunners. They don't get to a goal they want, but due to their pride and self-entitlement since they're already good, they cheat to make it seem like they actually achieved a huge goal. That's the entire psychology behind it lol. and they never feel remorse because they really think they "deserve" it even if they clearly cheated.
it is especially sad when you think they must've trained legitimately for years or decades to get to where they are, just to invalidate their own performance because of some stupid ego
Wherever there’s competition, there will be cheaters
@DaLooseGoose11 Who refers to runners as speedrunners? Never seen that, just call them athletes/runners..?
@@ajlib I mean, when you're trying to run as fast as you can, it kind of is a speedrun, is it not?
@@ajlibspeedrun is when people try to complete a videogame as fast as possible
Not the shaggy song.."it wanst me!"😂😂😂😂 ive never laughed so loud
Using sunglasses as a disguise might work in California...but in Great Britain?
"Is there no sun in this cursed country?"
Azeem, in Robin Hood, Prince of Thieves (1991).
Good one!
@@ChristopheStrobbe
The guy shows his Garmin info. Shows he was running 30mph.
ricky Lightfoot is one hell of a name for a runner
Great video. Thanks for uploading.
I’d like to make a couple of points here.
1- Running a fast 10k the day before a marathon isn’t super human. It’s actually a fairly common thing for top club runners. I know many people who run multiple marathons on consecutive days.
2- Running a marathon on a treadmill proves absolutely nothing. You can’t compare treadmill running to competing in a hilly marathon.
There’s no question Rob Sloan is a very good runner so I’ve no idea why he did what he did? Don’t think it was planned. He withdrew, made his way to finish and then decided to cross finish line and claim a 3rd place. He just made an incredibly stupid decision which he’ll have to live with. Should’ve just held his hand up, admitted his mistake, took his punishment and moved on. Going on television and protesting his innocence just brings more attention and makes him look stupid. In many ways, I actually feel sorry for him. Rob has tarnished his reputation forever.
My guess is that he withdrew, but when he got to the finish, he realized he could finish 3rd if he pretended he never got on the bus. Given the fact he apologized at first, I think this was all emotional.
The human brain and the reason for rationalizing certain decisions is indeed quite interesting. I think most distance runners are doing it as an effort to push themselves beyond limits that others believe to be impossible and it takes an incredible amount of work and dedication. Take David Goggins for example. In 2020, he ran the Moab 240 (ended up being 255). He had to disqualify himself around mile 200 and was admitted to the hospital for HAPE. After receiving treatment, he went back and finished the remaining 40 miles even though he was disqualified just to finish the race. His motivation is just a personal goal and where he finishes in any given race is typically just a statement to him as to how hard he trained for it. Knowing he finished it, even without anyone but his crew there to witness it, was achieving a personal goal. Then there are others where winning is the all important goal and for whatever reason, are willing to do things that I can only imagine stir in their minds long after whether they’re caught or not. I mean Lance Armstrong’s feats, even though cheating with enhancements, are incredible but I guarantee knowing that he cheated to gain an advantage was stirring in his head even before it was proven. I guess it boils down to, “there are those who aim to please others and receive praise and others simply willing to grind in the darkness while nobody watches with no other goal than to push themselves to their absolute limits”.
Well written post, and I can understand why you'd feel sorry for him, as he has tarnished his reputation, however it goes beyond what he did to himself - the actual 3rd place finisher was initially denied his podium position.
As a runner he'd have known exactly what his fellow competitors go through in chasing their goals.
He'll have known exactly what the real 3rd place finisher went through in training, preparation and on the day itself, yet he was more than happy to steal this accomplishment from a fellow runner - it's difficult to feel sorry for someone who does that.
Similarly when elite athletes are denied their moment of glory by a cheat.
Receiving a medal weeks or months after the event sure cannot compare to standing on the podium at the time.
I'd be devastated, after putting in years of dedication, sacrifice and hard work, only to have that moment stolen from me.
Yes, you've eventually received the correct medal and recognition, but you can't ever get back that moment in time when you climb onto the podium, flags being raised, and if a winner, your national anthem being played - there's simply no way to rectify that - receiving a medal after the fact cannot come close.
@@ianmacfarlane1241 I despise any form of cheating so would never defend this guy. I just find the situation sad. As you rightfully say, a person has been denied their place on the podium and that is so unfair.
@@MrCol104
Sorry, I wasn't trying to suggest that you were attempting to defend him - I do understand that you were merely pointing what damage he'd done to himself and his previously unblighted reputation.
"In many ways I actually feel sorry for him" - that is perfectly reasonable, and speaks volumes about your objectivity and fairness when looking at a situation.
I don't disagree - he did more harm to himself than anyone else - prematurely ending a decent amateur athletics career, and making himself look ridiculous by not admitting his actions.
I was just adding another viewpoint, as the other competitors are often overlooked in these situations.
His 10K pace translated to marathon pace using the normal formula would give him a time right on 3 hours.
A 2:50 time would be about 2300m in front of that - virtually impossible for someone of his calibre.
Also it seems his training was unlikely to have been particularly marathon-centric.
How could he not know the people along the road and on the bus were smart, had good eyesight, and were knowledgeable about the race going on beside them. How insulting to all these bystanders. What an arse.
If you're good enough to win the 10k, cheating on the Marathon is beyond stupidity
You know a marathon is 20 miles longer than a 10k right? That’s a huge difference in necessary endurance.
@@Djacob_ Why would I not know that?
@@phillawrence5148 because your original comment suggests otherwise. Being good enough to win a 10k doesn’t really mean much in a marathon, hence the cheating.
@@Djacob_ It doesn't suggest otherwise at all. Only in your mind
@@phillawrence5148 being good enough to win a 10k doesn’t really mean much in a marathon. That’s a 20!mile difference.
Are you just going to ignore that part in order to feel like you’re right?
Your original comment is like saying “if you’re good enough to win a go-cart race, cheating in a formula 1 is beyond stupidity” when it actually makes sense a go-cart racer would cheat since he had no chance.
Or that’s like saying “if you’re good enough to win a criterium race, cheating in the Tour de France is beyond stupidity” when it actually makes sense because most crit racers don’t have the necessary endurance for the TDF. And there’s plenty of cheaters in the TDF.
I used to be in the Army with this lad. I do t remember him being such a good runner then. Obviously he got into it and became good. But I have one lasting memory of him 😂 he once sniffed petrol out of the Harley motorbike fuel tank.
If he ever dies I hope his Obituary says "Famous for getting high from sniffing petrol and using public transportation to cheat in foot races" 😂 what a way to be remembered
Must have done some lasting damage with those fumes lol
This is my local race and have done it a few times including this one, my guess has always been he dropped out and got the only bus back to the start finish area, once getting off feeling recovered he just thought for a laugh to run across the line not realising the position, then straight away has a camera shoved in his face so just rolled with it. The mistake he made was not coming clean straight after.
And that wouldn't have been an issue if he didn't double down. I can certainly see that scenario. All he had to do was say that.
I can see being overwhelmed and too scared to speak up for the lady who possibly accidentally got first place when she cheated the Boston marathon, since she was literally swarmed with people and given a crown and had never ran before. But that was 1st place at Boston. This guy was 3rd place at a local trail run that was more for nature appreciation than anything. I can't imagine it being super overwhelming, especially since he's a very good runner who had just won the 10k and who's probably used to finishing at the top for smaller local events like this.
I think youre being too kind on him. If he quit the race and got the bus to the finish, there is no reason to cross the finish line. He definitly did so purposefully, but probably just for bragging rights at his club, but thats still a shit thing to do
I did an out and back bike race. Gave up half way (handing in my frame number) then riding back on the same course to the finish. Had some conversations on the way where it was impossible to get my point across and just went along with it.. so the race day stuff is all fine and forgivable. Doubling down just seems odd
Except he _did_ come clean straight after - and then _took it back._
Him going back on his story 3 months later just seems like an easy way to get a quick buck for media interviews rather than malicious intent
My first Garmin which was more than a decade ago, worked while on an airplane going 500 mph.
hahaha, guy takes the bus to the finish and almost wins the race. Comedy gold.
I'm pretty sure this was an episode on Seinfeld
This actually happened in 1904 Olympics. Lol
Whoever edited in "it wasn't me" is tooooo funny😂😂😂
262 giving him the stink eye while being interviewed is one of the front row starters shown earlier. I’m sure he wondered where this guy magically appeared from at the end.
Not sure why, but arcade video games and running are always the most hilarious that someone would spend so much effort cheating at.
Fame might come... "Did a Rob Sloan, got the bus home"
2:39 The 1st place finisher being named “Ricky Lightfoot” is so sick. Bro was born to do this😭
This man revealed is his lack of intelligence as much as his dishonesty.
“Disguised in glasses”
I desperately wanted these to be Groucho Marx glasses. 😂
As a runner myself who has left my garmin running accidentally, , I can tell you that garmins absolutely work in vehicles.
On his behalf, my suunto would happily measure any speed up to about 40km just by moving close to a building or under trees.
Have no interest in running or marathons, however this was so interesting and amazingly put together I genuinely enjoyed it.
The third place guys face 🤣🤣 not happy 😂
Lmao I was dying
Didn’t he LOOK at his Garmin data before using it as “proof”?
Lmao at the folks that saw him on the bus, that was hilarious 🤣
They saw him half an hour ago 😂
Cairns rhymes with burns ..
Insert Simpsons joke
A liar needs to have a good memory. Not you Rob!😅
How to get famous!
The way he partly covers his face when he crossed the line. That’s shame.
Winning the 10k and then getting top ten in the full would have been an amazing achievement, shame he had to throw that all away for just that little bit more.
8:09 "Oh that spike there? Yeah, I was just running really fast!"
I myself can also finish any marathon.
Will there be buses nearby? (Asking for a friend)
2:30 Lol why are there a bunch of guys dressed like the Jamaican Bobsled Team?! 😂
Cos it’s hilarious😂😂
They probably thought it was a soapbox derby xD
This guy should be sentenced to a year in a portapottie with Kelly Agnew.
His 10k victory pace was only 6:13. That’s mid 2:40 marathon pace. Doubt he could run 2:50 in the full
This guy is the Houston Astros of the running world!!!!
Steve Cram. A man so inhumanly fast, a mere jog is enough to warp vhs tape 🏅
I haven't raced for about 3 years now, but I'm hoping to start again in the spring. I'm doing strength training, intervals, track reps etc, also incorporating the essentials, like long runs,uphills, not to mention the right food enough sleep, hydration and what's the other thing...... Oh yeah, bus fare !
I use the Oyster card method 😊
my first thought was "lol did he grabbed a bus?" so i was in for a surprise
why would total strangers on a bus lie 😂😂
ban him for future marathons
cheating is one thing, but cheating and then lying about it is only possible by sociopaths
I mean…. Cheaters are all lying to begin with? That’s literally how they cheat, they lie about something in order to win so why is it a stretch that they’d also refuse to admit that they cheated and lie about it?
People lie all the time to avoid and evade consequences whether those consequences are legal, damage to their reputation, losing their friends/family, career etc or even just the shame that comes with whatever the lied about from the public and people he knows personally. It’s not actually sociopathic behavior or else everybody would be a sociopath. It’s actually quite normal to avoid consequences and every single person has done so. It’s just the extent of their lie, what they’ve done and the consequences that make them different.
How do you do the first half of a marathon in 1:27 (97min)then finish at 2:50(170min)=> 170-97= 73 . Even if you're intentionally running first half slow.
This is not a Marathon where are there any Elite or sublet runners. I do a half marathon in this time
"Bye bye driver!! BYE BYE DRIVER!!"
Would it not of been possible to get the CCTV footage from the bus he got on? Or did it get wiped before they could
I can imagine an old bus in Northumberland 12 years ago might not have any or at least not of any great quality.
The guy who won the race has possibly the best name for a marathoner 9:12
Love these type of videos especially when there aren't any big races going on right now!
let's organized a "cheater marathon run" and see how many cheaters will show up to run...
I don't understand why people decide to cheat to win when it's not really winning that way.
He didn't cheat he teleported to the finish line... technically legal😂
interesting at work yesterday someone was talking about a guy getting on a bus in a race because someone else was doing a charity race next month.......then this pops up this morning
He's a sweater, sweating is part of his job.
"I'll take the bus to the finish line to get first place!"
*Bus gets stuck in traffic*
😰
Bus driver "sorry mate, I'm not allowed to let you off the bus until we reach a proper bus stop"
Amazing how much in denial this dude was, even with all the evidence. I mean, voluntarily providing his garmon data, even though he must have known it'd show the spike! That's just mind-boggling!
He won the first race fair and square. Just go and enjoy your victory. He would have been seen as a Champion runner if he had just done that.
That really is a beautiful route. I’d love to run it next time I visit. 🥰
That's the type of person that would grab half your 🍟 from your dish if you turn around for a second and blame the seagulls for it while sitting in the desert 😂
Makes me so angry when these cheaters take the glory of the true winner.
that scottish guy looked like he was about to drop him
@@elliotoliver8679 Yeah, looking round thinking 'who the F... are you'
Why does this feel like it was filmed in the 90s.
I'd love to see, him do 30mph on a treadmill for cameras to justify that
I think we are all being petty. They should hold a competition for all these cheaters. And as a non runner. I have mad respect for anyone crazy enough to think it’s enjoyable… but to pretend to be good at something I wouldn’t tell anyone i respected. Truly shows this man have no place in you crazy people or my crazy people.. that’s why they cheat. He’s not even good at lying.. so what is he actually good at
4:10 it blows my mind he ran 20 miles first. you ran 20 miles. you ran 20 miles to come to this decision ? 🚬
Just get the f🏃♀️k out.
This man would have to be one of the flashes from dc or any running themed hero/character to pull off his lie.
If there’s one running club you don’t want to be harried by. 🤔
‘Do you know what nemesis means?’
The face of Cairns though 🤣
What a great channel! Liked and subbed!
Hmm, hundreds of runners and NO smiles, explains why I avoid running. 😊😅😅
By 1:45 you could tell this was going to be a funny story. 😂😂😂
No room for cheats in the running fraternity.
I wonder what explanation he gave for his previous confession and apology? Presumably his club had barred him and he was trying to clear his name but instead just dug himself deeper into the... "mud"...
I do wonder if he was told that he'd only get back in if he confessed, and only recanted it because he wasn't given what he was promised.
Third placed runner is Steve Cairns, not Cains.
They say and show that. The pronunciation is off.
Mispronouncing his name, what a shame. Steve Cairns is a local legend.
That guy can't catch a break
Can we just appreciate the amazing video quality when he started running at 0:20 😂😂😂😂
The correct way to cheat in a marathon like this would be to have yourself transported halfway and then join back in around 20th place, far enough back that it's not super noticeable. Then use the fact that you're well rested to push an insane pace for the second half and catch up to 1st.
LOL. The Shaggy Defense!
They always try angles that only a person who definitely did it would try. "Of course I didn't do it, because first off, look how hard it would be for me to do it!" They've already got the desires and mindset of a cheater in their head, so they just skip to the next argument they think they can win - but they don't realize how damning that is right on the face of it. I have this trouble myself when playing bluffing games - I know I'm bluffing, so I think it's natural that people should suspect me, which makes it obvious.
@ 2:39 can we just stop & take a moment to recognize that the person who came in 1st is named "Lightfoot"
how cool is that lol
Ricky Lightfoot is the great-nephew of Gordon Lightfoot.
lol it keeps getting cooler ...@@BlankSlate22
They are all chancers in Sunderland - the Liverpool of the north.
I cheated once in a run and it wasn't even trying to! I was a young PFC in the Army and had gone out drinking on a Sunday at a local tavern that was hoisting penny beer night (a pitcher of cheap draft for a penny) and I had so many I lost count. That Monday morning during formation the PLT. SGT announced that we were going on a Sargent Majors "fun run" for morning PT and with my hangover all I could think was "oh great" but I was ready to pay the price for it. There was a very heavy fog that morning so to make sure no one got ran over they had the run on the 400 meter track and we would run 8 laps to get in a 2 mile run.
After just 2 laps it became pretty obvious to me that I wasn't going to finish in the top 10 and that I also needed to make a pit stop so I could vomit so I got about 8 or 9 feet off of the track and visibility was so low no one could see me. My plan was to fall in with a group of runners at some point and fingers crossed they'd be close to having 8 laps in! So, after a bit of time had passed, I heard some runners approaching and just as they went past, I fell in behind them. Little did I know these were the 6 minute mile guys! Now I was no chump and could hold my own with a 14 to15 min 2 mile but there was no way I was ever pulling off a 12 minute 2 mile....until that day! As I crossed the finish line ahead of the group I joined up with I heard the Commander yell out "11:58" as I looked over and saw him holding up a stopwatch. It didn't go down in the record books or count towards anything...although I am sure my Squad Leader latter wondered how in the hell I outran the entire battalion that one time! 😁
Other guy 👀 him. WTF you doing here 👀
Running a marathon is psychopathic to begin with.