As someone who backed the Elegoo Jupiter mostly based on Jesse's hype, and ended up with what's basically a beta test unit, I plead to those of you reading this- wait until the second revision at minimum.
The good news is they should hopefully have a firmware update available soon for me to test that will hopefully resolve some of the things I’ve called out here 🤞🤞
@hotshoestudios it's Great machine neptune 4 max. Mines been running 20 hours a day since January 15th and no major issues just occasional Littles ones like bed leveling when I haven't done it in over a week and sometimes having to change to a new nozzle gone through 2 nozzles so it's not that bad.
Oh man, any large print is anxiety inducing. I work with BigRep printers and prints running for 5-6 weeks is not uncommon... I don't sleep much when I have those running. 😂
I've started the pre planning for a 3D printed life sized Master Chief followed by a life sized Arbiter so this could be huge if they ever get it working full up ...
After my experience with the Neptune 4 series firmware, I don't have any desire to purchase any more of their printer products until they can demonstrate that they have better quality control and mastery over Klipper. Neptune 4 users have been depending on the efforts of a few individuals doing open source Klipper.
Holy f... This is AMAZING. With a printbed that big you could make complete dirt bike plastics. or even atv/quad plastics. Making both custom ones, or just ones you cant buy anymore. AMAZING.
That is ridiculously huge. It's perfect for cosplay costuming and such. That monster head is awesome. It looks like a nightmare to adjust. Even just cleaning the bed plates, I'd have to worry about leveling again. It's such s cool novelty though.
Yeah the leveling was cumbersome and time consuming but man is the potential there to print some hugely awesome things. I will be having a lot of fun with this printer … until I break it 😂
Peeps that backed it are going to have a lot of fun chewing through filament with this beast. Leveling was a bit cumbersome but man oh man am I loving being able to print just about anything on it
@@UncleJessy UPDATE: Got it delivered, and honestly got it up and running with no issues ❤. Your feedback along with many others made a huge difference because Elegoo listened 🤘! It is exactly what I was hoping for when the kickstarter was announced. I wanted to thank you for your hard work 🫡 because I would have been very frustrated if they didn’t make those changes and they would not have if some Pro Print Masters didn’t get their hands on it first. ❤❤❤
I'm excited for when more companies start coming out with large-format 3D printers in the commercial market and further bringing the cost down. Seems to be an ambitious step in the right direction.
That would seem to be a trend in general. Ever since Bambu, more manufacturers have been making Core XY's, and it's only a matter of time before they all start integrating Klipper in some way.
@@ultra_phantomaj8300 Bambu just used what open source printers like RatRig and Voron had been doing for a while. Bambu just made it closed off and an appliance rather than a hobby in itself.
Let's just call it "non bed slinger" designs. Printers like this are easily enclosed, and their footprint isn't variable on the workbench. I like my 3 and 4 Plus printers, but so tired of dealing with adhesion issues due to bed movement and temperature variations.
@@eslmatt811 Correct. There is a motor on the X axis gantry controlling it's movement. At that size, I'm not sure belts would have worked in a typical CoreXY configuration. This might be a use case where moving away from belts completely. Magnetic levitation linear motor system might be a great use case for these extremely large printers.
Those prints are... Impressive. A few issues, but this honestly looks pretty good. Wouldn't be hard to add an enclosure either, though a bit expensive. I mean, cardboard is cheap though. Given it can print stuff the rest of the market simply can't, I'm especially thinking car parts and large household items or huge models like you showed, it could probably pay for itself pretty quickly. Good stuff!
Excited for when I get my giga, looking to print molds for carbon fiber composite bodywork on my formula cars and maybe designing fixtures for work... Maybe even a life-size formula sim rig for my spare bedroom..
That cable length is short on purpose, i can imagine this thing is drawing significantly more power than a regular printer. Increase cable length increase amperage.
The one thing a 3D printer can do that other technologies struggle with, is print in place mechanisms. There must be a large scale mechanism that this could produce that would really demonstrate it's USP
I've never had an interest in printing large items... until now. After seeing that rancor head, I'd love to be able to print out a giant beholder with gaping mouth and crazy eye stalks.
You should print the Rancor’s hands or just the tips of the hands to make it a wall hanger with the appearance of it coming out of the wall. That would be badass!
Yeah, that's a real problem. I wish the structure could be easily disassembled into flat subassemblies that could be stacked along a wall, for example. Then reassembled when needed.
I recommend buying a bunch of small weights. You can embed them in prints or just put them inside the middle of things like the ornithopter. You'd be amazed how much being able to control the center of gravity can elevate prints without having to do really in-depth engineering of the models.
that's actually a standard power cable for high amp power supplies. I think anything past 1KW uses that plug. It means the cable is thicker and can handle more power.
Looks wild and I wish i could have got into the kicksterter pre-orders. I have a couple critisisms: Would love to see hookups for users to install their own shields for the front, back, top, and sides of the printer. Would also like to see a dark mode for the touchscreen.
Jesus. Even at this size, the filament bracket is still mounted on the back. USB port on the floor? Why do these companies do this to us? Is it on purpose?
Didn't realize the extruders weren't independent, that would have been so much cooler, but if I had one of those things would take one of those ultra detailed thrones they do for tabletop miniatures, cut it in half and have a full size one
Currently prototyping a cosplay chest-piece on my Ender 3... this makes me feel some type of way just knowing THIS exists and that I could probably print an entire SUIT on that one build plate.
the auto mesh calibration changes is because of the pressure point abl system. This is the same as the Elegoo neptune 3 machine I have, The value is always changing even though I changed nothing.
I just received my DoWell 1610-10 It is 1620 x 1020 x 1020 and it prints extremely precise. If you want BIG and precise, it is very hard to beat this printer.
I was watching a video of a review of this machine and the Elegoo VP did say they are going to make another smaller model unit in the OrangeStorm line. He didn't say how much smaller though. Sounded like they were going to make a few of these in the entire line eventually. No time line given either. I'm guessing everything is based on how well the Giga sells.
I am the same as this fella. I can no longer walk my groceries home in thin disposable plastic bags but I order PLA and PETG by tens of kilos. I find that very satisfying.
Im wondering, with such a long filament line between runout sensor and extruder, isn't it going to wrap around the axis and interfere with movement? maybe even touch the print, possibly catch onto something and cause fail?
That print save was genius! 90 hours, though? That thing needs input shaping! Greenboy 3D’s direct pellet-to-print would be perfect for this to keep costs down.
Good to see what you've been up to! I wonder if they could make a small upgrade kit available to move the spool to the front? I imagine they would only need a cable extender, and some zip ties. Maybe a $10 add on?
You may want to scrap the motherboard and install a Duet motherboard. With the expense of filament with such large prints, the quality of the motherboard will definitely matter. If your calibration sensor is infrared, the shiny surface of the build plate will mess with your calibration measurements. If it is a pressure sensor, then the plate may be too thin and cause surface changes due to uneven heating or flex during calibration. Hope this helps. May want to try a BL touch sensor to see if your measurements are consistent.
Whatever room you build this in, it’s not leaving. My RatRig 500 can go through doorways, but there is no way that this is going through any doorway while assembled.
Can you throw dual extruder on it or did you say that? And what about malti color like for the posters and stuff if you don't have time to do a change over too.
Based on the live stream when you set this up I think Elegoo should include a presliced file of a helmet because, again after watching the live stream, you're gonna need it.
great thing is more company start to take part in big size printing which is pushing the technology and slowly pacing the right price , sad thing is i cant buy this itss too late for the kickstart all perks all gone and not soon enought in elegoo site haha great video as always !
Man I would love a giant printer like this that just worked 100% of the time without problems! I think for the time being it's still better to just slice large objects into sections and print simultaneously on multiple Bambus. Then if I get a failure or problem I'm just reprinting a small section instead of having to completely redo a massive print from zero.
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I cant wait to get this rancor head painted & mounted! Let me know what I should print with this!
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ok.. now I want a small 3D printer from you uncle 😡😡😤
A huge Mario and Luigi statue
Full size Slimer from ghostbusters.
thats so awesome, make dark helmets helmet, you can probably do it all in one shot full size now!!!
You should print a Spaceballs Lord Helmet helmet...
😂
absolutely 🤣
SPACEBALLS: The reply
Yes!!! 😂
Terrible idea worst movie
As someone who backed the Elegoo Jupiter mostly based on Jesse's hype, and ended up with what's basically a beta test unit, I plead to those of you reading this- wait until the second revision at minimum.
The good news is they should hopefully have a firmware update available soon for me to test that will hopefully resolve some of the things I’ve called out here 🤞🤞
@@UncleJessy Would love to see a follow-up if that happens.
Add my Neptune 4 Max to that as well. Total POS.
Could you please elaborate on the major issue/s you had with it.
@hotshoestudios it's Great machine neptune 4 max. Mines been running 20 hours a day since January 15th and no major issues just occasional Littles ones like bed leveling when I haven't done it in over a week and sometimes having to change to a new nozzle gone through 2 nozzles so it's not that bad.
Now you can actually go boating with the family in your benchy!
Should I buy an office chair or an Elegoo printer? Nah, I'll buy the Elegoo and then I can print myself a full sized chair!!
Heck yeah! I want to print my Escape Key stool I designed… but huge 😂
ESC key why not the whole keyboard. Ha
Elegoo printer is better option. Are you open to suggestions on your social media page?
i hope you finaly finish that magneto statue! now you have perfect printer for that
👀🤘
A failed print would be DEVASTATING!
Oh man, any large print is anxiety inducing. I work with BigRep printers and prints running for 5-6 weeks is not uncommon... I don't sleep much when I have those running. 😂
Especially if it is a massive print that could consume tons of filament
I've started the pre planning for a 3D printed life sized Master Chief followed by a life sized Arbiter so this could be huge if they ever get it working full up ...
That Dune print is great. Being able to print our own decorations around the house and for the kids will be awesome.
After my experience with the Neptune 4 series firmware, I don't have any desire to purchase any more of their printer products until they can demonstrate that they have better quality control and mastery over Klipper. Neptune 4 users have been depending on the efforts of a few individuals doing open source Klipper.
I'm waiting on the v2 or v3 of this printer after they worked on all the kinks, but man it does look pretty cool.
You're kidding, right? The NM4 is a piece of trash and you think they can perfect this monster.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Yea like fakuma said , 3max > 4max
Print and Paint- Jaba The Hut
Nah pizza the hut
Holy f... This is AMAZING. With a printbed that big you could make complete dirt bike plastics. or even atv/quad plastics. Making both custom ones, or just ones you cant buy anymore. AMAZING.
Need to do Castle greyskull. That would be awesome.
That Rancor is outstanding! Crazy printing, can’t wait to see what else you try out!
That is ridiculously huge. It's perfect for cosplay costuming and such. That monster head is awesome. It looks like a nightmare to adjust. Even just cleaning the bed plates, I'd have to worry about leveling again. It's such s cool novelty though.
Yeah the leveling was cumbersome and time consuming but man is the potential there to print some hugely awesome things. I will be having a lot of fun with this printer … until I break it 😂
❤❤❤ This is the Update I have been waiting since November for, THANK YOU Uncle Jesse ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
Peeps that backed it are going to have a lot of fun chewing through filament with this beast. Leveling was a bit cumbersome but man oh man am I loving being able to print just about anything on it
@@UncleJessy UPDATE: Got it delivered, and honestly got it up and running with no issues ❤. Your feedback along with many others made a huge difference because Elegoo listened 🤘!
It is exactly what I was hoping for when the kickstarter was announced. I wanted to thank you for your hard work 🫡 because I would have been very frustrated if they didn’t make those changes and they would not have if some Pro Print Masters didn’t get their hands on it first.
❤❤❤
That print save was amazing 🤌🏼🤌🏼
Wow leveliing that "floor bed" is gonna be a nightmare! And backache is welcome too
I'm excited for when more companies start coming out with large-format 3D printers in the commercial market and further bringing the cost down. Seems to be an ambitious step in the right direction.
I appreciate the transparency with mentioning that this isn't a review. Love your content thank you
Wow!! That's insanely huge!
i can't help but laugh every time the banana for scale comes up on the screen, it's so silly yet funny
UncleJessy, thank you for being a creator and reviewer who prints a decent size print on the machines you’re reviewing, this thing is awesome.
I hope the Giga leads to more Klipper Core XY printers from Elegoo at a smaller size.
That would seem to be a trend in general. Ever since Bambu, more manufacturers have been making Core XY's, and it's only a matter of time before they all start integrating Klipper in some way.
@@ultra_phantomaj8300 Bambu just used what open source printers like RatRig and Voron had been doing for a while. Bambu just made it closed off and an appliance rather than a hobby in itself.
It's not core xy, you can see the x stepper moving on the y rail. My understanding is that core xy only scales to a point.
Let's just call it "non bed slinger" designs. Printers like this are easily enclosed, and their footprint isn't variable on the workbench. I like my 3 and 4 Plus printers, but so tired of dealing with adhesion issues due to bed movement and temperature variations.
@@eslmatt811 Correct. There is a motor on the X axis gantry controlling it's movement. At that size, I'm not sure belts would have worked in a typical CoreXY configuration.
This might be a use case where moving away from belts completely. Magnetic levitation linear motor system might be a great use case for these extremely large printers.
Those prints are... Impressive. A few issues, but this honestly looks pretty good. Wouldn't be hard to add an enclosure either, though a bit expensive. I mean, cardboard is cheap though. Given it can print stuff the rest of the market simply can't, I'm especially thinking car parts and large household items or huge models like you showed, it could probably pay for itself pretty quickly. Good stuff!
Now they need to do this for the Jupiter 😆Great video as always Jessy! 🙌
This thing is just waiting for an affordable pellet print head mod to hit the market.
Maybe try a USB extension cable so you can route it up top. This printer is WILD.
Ohhhh that’s not a bad idea as well!
Time to join the droid builders! You can print most the parts in one go with that massive printer
Excited for when I get my giga, looking to print molds for carbon fiber composite bodywork on my formula cars and maybe designing fixtures for work... Maybe even a life-size formula sim rig for my spare bedroom..
Man that would be awesome to use to print out the 3D topo maps.
This is amazing dude. Next freakin level. And I have all Elegoo Printers, and I am extremely happy with them. 🤘🤘
Imagine how much time you can save being able to print larger cosplay props in one go…. That printer is wild!
yes yes yes, i love it!!! All i need now is a bigger desk...lol
I’ve been using one of the boxes as a standing desk 😂
@@UncleJessy lol
This is an absolute unit of a printer. Very cool you choose my Dune kit, seeing it at such a massive scale is just wild.
That cable length is short on purpose, i can imagine this thing is drawing significantly more power than a regular printer. Increase cable length increase amperage.
As long as the size of the conductors goes up, the resistance should stay the same.
@FunctionalPrintFriday which is why its short, bigger conductors bigger cost. I guarantee the longer one he got didnt have bigger conductors
I wait till they offer a max version of it in the double size😂
The Creality Kar size printer
can tell elegoo is using this as a testing platform for a core xy printer thats smaller and more a bambu killer esk type machine
The one thing a 3D printer can do that other technologies struggle with, is print in place mechanisms. There must be a large scale mechanism that this could produce that would really demonstrate it's USP
I've never had an interest in printing large items... until now. After seeing that rancor head, I'd love to be able to print out a giant beholder with gaping mouth and crazy eye stalks.
I wonder if the beds are moving around until heat soaked like I discovered on the N4M. That could be why the values are changing.
Hey Uncle Jessy, Castle Gray Skull. Lets Goooo!
When they coming out with a 800 x 800 PEI plate? 😄
I understand that Klipper entered adaptive mesh bed( only on the print area) should be good for this printer and will save some time to start printing
Gotta love when people tell me about a kickstarter i can no longer back
Slightly better than knowing kickstarts that won't even ship to your country 😢
I feel this is the perfect situation for a reverse bowden tube.
You should print the Rancor’s hands or just the tips of the hands to make it a wall hanger with the appearance of it coming out of the wall. That would be badass!
painting this masterpiece will be very enjoy
Imagine how big a Zaku can be made with this one
@@ulforcemegamon3094 interesting question， maybe can ask uncle Jessy have a test🤣
A usb extension cable might be the way to go to relocate the port to a more practical location.
good lord!!!! I almost backed this BUT the room it needs... lol had to walk away but WOW so neat!
Yeah, that's a real problem. I wish the structure could be easily disassembled into flat subassemblies that could be stacked along a wall, for example. Then reassembled when needed.
That rancor is insaaaaaane
This really should be a granulate based printhead instead of Filament. You would save a ton of money and could recycle your prints at the same time.
I recommend buying a bunch of small weights. You can embed them in prints or just put them inside the middle of things like the ornithopter. You'd be amazed how much being able to control the center of gravity can elevate prints without having to do really in-depth engineering of the models.
I hope Elegoo starts making the tablet wireless capable and then it can be the ultimate tablet to control all your Elegoo printers.
How the first giant thing you printed on this wasn't Godzilla is beyond me. lol
that's actually a standard power cable for high amp power supplies. I think anything past 1KW uses that plug. It means the cable is thicker and can handle more power.
Correct, it is a standard plug, just not as common. Regularly used in commercial applications like my Eaton 5P 2200 UPS.
Looks wild and I wish i could have got into the kicksterter pre-orders.
I have a couple critisisms:
Would love to see hookups for users to install their own shields for the front, back, top, and sides of the printer.
Would also like to see a dark mode for the touchscreen.
Use magnets to attach sides.
Wow…that is ridiculously HUGE! 🤣 But really cool at the same time. 👍🏽
I saw the thumbnail and immediately, i said out loud, "Oh sh%t, he got it!!!" LOL CONGRATS!!!
Jesus. Even at this size, the filament bracket is still mounted on the back. USB port on the floor? Why do these companies do this to us? Is it on purpose?
Classic Elegoo lol
I'd love to see a Terror Dog print from that beast.
This printer is awesome! Please bring us the world’s largest 3DBenchy!!!
Didn't realize the extruders weren't independent, that would have been so much cooler, but if I had one of those things would take one of those ultra detailed thrones they do for tabletop miniatures, cut it in half and have a full size one
Currently prototyping a cosplay chest-piece on my Ender 3... this makes me feel some type of way just knowing THIS exists and that I could probably print an entire SUIT on that one build plate.
Wow, with all that stuff below I'd suggest a kick plate!!
I was actually thinking about a Kickplate for my doors 😂🤘
the auto mesh calibration changes is because of the pressure point abl system. This is the same as the Elegoo neptune 3 machine I have, The value is always changing even though I changed nothing.
I just received my DoWell 1610-10 It is 1620 x 1020 x 1020 and it prints extremely precise. If you want BIG and precise, it is very hard to beat this printer.
I was watching a video of a review of this machine and the Elegoo VP did say they are going to make another smaller model unit in the OrangeStorm line. He didn't say how much smaller though. Sounded like they were going to make a few of these in the entire line eventually. No time line given either. I'm guessing everything is based on how well the Giga sells.
A problem I can anticipate is the whip that will happen when the last wind of filament comes off the spool
You're going to need to buy filament by the ton to fill up this build volume.
I am the same as this fella. I can no longer walk my groceries home in thin disposable plastic bags but I order PLA and PETG by tens of kilos. I find that very satisfying.
3d print grocery bags
!!!DAAAMMMMM !!! That printer its beautiful !!!!....
Seems like "adaptive cubic" infill would be a must on those huge prints. Looks good though.
Im wondering, with such a long filament line between runout sensor and extruder, isn't it going to wrap around the axis and interfere with movement? maybe even touch the print, possibly catch onto something and cause fail?
Who knows how many prints failed before this one was shown
Glorious! I can't wait for mine to get here. Guess I don't be buying that BigRep after all :P
That print save was genius! 90 hours, though? That thing needs input shaping! Greenboy 3D’s direct pellet-to-print would be perfect for this to keep costs down.
this so cool! so detailed. much filament though haha and waiting time
man - that is an amazing machine. Part of me wants it, but the other part of me can't justify how big it'll be and what i'd make with it.
Really cool video. I'd glue the crap out of that build plate.
90.5 hours of print time!!! WOW!!!! or 3 days.. lol that is amazing
That's slow
Good to see what you've been up to! I wonder if they could make a small upgrade kit available to move the spool to the front? I imagine they would only need a cable extender, and some zip ties. Maybe a $10 add on?
You may want to scrap the motherboard and install a Duet motherboard. With the expense of filament with such large prints, the quality of the motherboard will definitely matter. If your calibration sensor is infrared, the shiny surface of the build plate will mess with your calibration measurements. If it is a pressure sensor, then the plate may be too thin and cause surface changes due to uneven heating or flex during calibration. Hope this helps. May want to try a BL touch sensor to see if your measurements are consistent.
Looks like, and if I’m right maybe send this to elegoo, that the screen doesn’t have a dark mode that a lot of people would love 14:00
Whatever room you build this in, it’s not leaving. My RatRig 500 can go through doorways, but there is no way that this is going through any doorway while assembled.
Perfect for beginners
Can you throw dual extruder on it or did you say that? And what about malti color like for the posters and stuff if you don't have time to do a change over too.
So now you have to enclose it, run a chamber heater and push some HUGE ABS parts. Like a boat.
Based on the live stream when you set this up I think Elegoo should include a presliced file of a helmet because, again after watching the live stream, you're gonna need it.
I wonder if it would be feasible to have multiple heads printing at once, for these ultra large fdm printers
1kg of filament on this printer looks like the 100g of filament that ender printers come with
great thing is more company start to take part in big size printing which is pushing the technology and slowly pacing the right price , sad thing is i cant buy this itss too late for the kickstart all perks all gone and not soon enought in elegoo site haha great video as always !
you could get an interchangeable lens camera and an ultra wide angle lens?
Just ordered a new mic because this rode wireless go was not good
That thing is nuts!
You need to turn on adaptive cubic for the infill to save so much time and plastic
Man I would love a giant printer like this that just worked 100% of the time without problems! I think for the time being it's still better to just slice large objects into sections and print simultaneously on multiple Bambus. Then if I get a failure or problem I'm just reprinting a small section instead of having to completely redo a massive print from zero.
Imagine the tabletop stuff you can print with this
Now for the monster enclosure!
0:55 Lots of dark shadows on edges of ornithopter print. Did it have bed adhesion issues?
You could very easily make Ghostbusters props with that printer. A whole proton pack and ghost traps.
Ooooh yessss. Love GB