@@bpnsirdiealot A quest to recover the grail PSA 10 slabs is currently underway. My father has also gone missing and I assume he's being held captive there, grading countless Pokemon cards against his will. I'll keep you updated.
@@Electronic424 You are likely correct, which is why it takes forever to get bulk orders back. With my last one, it took 120 business days for it to be finished and returned. SMH
I rarely deal with grading stuff. They rob people and try to devalue people's cards by 100s of dollars for something you can't see unless under a microscope or slight fray or creese. It's a racket. Always has been Since 1991 and is obviously a government hand dipped racket. That killed the hobby to profit off of robbing people. I sent the same card to 3 different grading companies just for kicks. Got it back all different grades, then cracked the slab sent the same card back to the same company and again all different grades again. Meanwhile if a 52 mantle was in someones hand with a creese or fray corner noone would care and still sell for whatever. I know I woundnt care. Catch my drift? Cards sell for the right value to the right buyer who actually loves the hobby, player, sport or character. Who the fuck are you and where you get the nerve (government helped or not) to charge US PEOPLE 20-75$ OR MORE A FKN CARD!?*FOR OUR OWN CARDS!? AND THEN YOU GIVE NO REASONS FOR THE GRADE BACK TO THE CUSTOMER!!! Experienced eye appeal and simple answer is all a card needs. Someone who knows what its worth by simple eye appeal. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to tell if a card is in good condition. Why would someone pay 20-75$ or more to tell you something that you already know lol. Not this sucker lol. Only an idiot does. And then grading companies talk trash about other grading companies that charge less because they like to be fair with their customers and do it for the right reasons . With how things are today with social media, everyone connected, grading companies will be obsolete in the future and companies like PSA( pretty stupid answers) will be on a decline business wise. Thanks to people like me and others together to form a new grading SYSTEM. One that is honest, fair, and much cheaper to the public 😉. And people won't need to submit 20 at a time mandatory at 25 $ a piece lol. Get the fuck out or here
@@myeyesonly8207 I rarely deal with grading stuff. They rob people and try to devalue people's cards by 100s of dollars for something you can't see unless under a microscope or slight fray or creese. It's a racket. Always has been Since 1991 and is obviously a government hand dipped racket. That killed the hobby to profit off of robbing people. I sent the same card to 3 different grading companies just for kicks. Got it back all different grades, then cracked the slab sent the same card back to the same company and again all different grades again. Meanwhile if a 52 mantle was in someones hand with a creese or fray corner noone would care and still sell for whatever. I know I woundnt care. Catch my drift? Cards sell for the right value to the right buyer who actually loves the hobby, player, sport or character. Who the fuck are you and where you get the nerve (government helped or not) to charge US PEOPLE 20-75$ OR MORE A FKN CARD!?*FOR OUR OWN CARDS!? AND THEN YOU GIVE NO REASONS FOR THE GRADE BACK TO THE CUSTOMER!!! Experienced eye appeal and simple answer is all a card needs. Someone who knows what its worth by simple eye appeal. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to tell if a card is in good condition. Why would someone pay 20-75$ or more to tell you something that you already know lol. Not this sucker lol. Only an idiot does. And then grading companies talk trash about other grading companies that charge less because they like to be fair with their customers and do it for the right reasons . With how things are today with social media, everyone connected, grading companies will be obsolete in the future and companies like PSA( pretty stupid answers) will be on a decline business wise. Thanks to people like me and others together to form a new grading SYSTEM. One that is honest, fair, and much cheaper to the public 😉. And people won't need to submit 20 at a time mandatory at 25 $ a piece lol. Get the fuck out or here
Nope ... PSA is out. I don’t like how they handle the cards and without gloves they have no chance with me. My Rookie Joe Montana should grade 9.5 or 10 and seeing this video concerned me. Some cards are worth 10s of thousands of dollars, and generally look to be handled poorly based on this video. I expected to see gloves and wood tweezers to move the card for any reason. I don’t see gentle handling at any point, and when the card is placed in the protective cover he used finger tips to slide it into place ... finger prints! Treat the high dollars cards with more care.
Sure didn’t look like that Sandy Koufax was “Carefully placed within the holder” to me...the guy dropped the card down in the vicinity of the holder, then slid the card into the “slot”, potentially causing the card edges to get stuck momentarily and/or causing the card to be damaged, especially the lower left corner of that card. If the lower left hand corner caught onto one of the raised edges of the case, that Koufax would potentially be damaged in that corner to an extent that would definitely be noticeable...NOT the way I would be showing off how “carefully” the cards are placed into the slabs...
i have a PSA graded 8 rookie stick and the one upprer left corner is so noticably damaged, i cant believe it got an 8. Im guessing it got damaged in the encasing..... in my experience the card is a 6-7 in a blink, but ill certainly take the 8 grade
@@charizardchaser was already stated. You dont realize the amount of pressure being applied to handling the cards with gloves on. If the grading companies refuse to handle them with gloves that should tell you something aswell.
Didn't realize how careless PSA is with handling these bare cards. It's no wonder why my cards always come back with weaker grades than I anticipated. I only ship out 100-125 cards per week to be graded, but now they're going to SGC - much better company, plus I hear they use surgical gloves to keep hand oils and potential cheeseburger residue (from lunch time) off your cards!
A lot of people underestimate how "90s" the 2000s were. Just like people forget how "80s" the 90s still were. And sort of like how people never really noticed how "70s" the early 80s were.
@@westlakeohio Only for bulk orders. The turnaround time is 45 business days for economy which has been temporarily suspended. The turnaround time for regular is 40 business days. The turnaround time starts when they enter it into their system. because of the pandemic it took my cards one month to get entered into the system. I have only 15 business days left on my order.
@@nickb2912 whats your update on how your cards are doing? my single card i sent in is now in the "research and ID" phase. after 2 weeks. my bulk cards of 20 cards are on the "received" stage after a week.
So what happens if they are grading your card bare handed and then accidentally drop it, dinging a corner in the process? Give you a crappy grade and move on?
If we send a card to the USA from Canada and it gets a high grade some collectors have been hit with duties on the newly graded value of the cards...This sucks...
Noticed one fellow in your video handling a card with his bare hands...Great for finger & thumbprints...Wouldn't it be best to use thin gloves while handling the cards...
For sure...Too many easy grades devalues a lot of cards.. It also adds to the population of other cards that are the same thus reducing the value of a card. I'd love to get some of my cards graded especially the error ones that I have.
Any wonder why this antiquated process requires so much time to grade a card? Hope they optimize some of the manual labor intensive process since this video.
Just recently I received through a close family members will a 1952 Topps Mickey Mantle BB Card. I have been collecting for years and I have been trying to decide which grading company to go with. I have never submitted a card for grading so this will be my first time. PSA was the lead choice but the this video has changed that decision. If you were me what would you do and how much do you guestimate this particular grade will cost? I appreciate any advice.
Hello Wesley. One thing I would like to point out is that I posted this in 2009 and I think it was a few years old when I posted it so things may have changed, MAYBE. To be honest I have always been told that cards pre 1983 are best done by PSA and post 1983 to send them to Beckett. I do not like PSA because I think they hand out way to many 10's where Beckett does not seem to hand out nearly as many so I prefer to deal with them. I do have a few PSA but the other reason I prefer Beckett is that their slabs (Cases they encase your card in) seem to be much more substantial than PSA's slabs. By the time I got done with Beckett I think 2 or 3 cards total with fees, mailing there and back, insurance there and back came to between $40-$60 I have not submitted any in about 4-6 years though. My uncle has that same card by the way, though I am not a baseball fan at all I can still appreciate the card and it's history though. I wish you the best of luck and please whatever you decide post back here and let me know how it turned out.
How much do they charge to get a t-206 1909-1911 base ball 350 subjects card? I dont know the price or even if they charge and who is recomended for grading?
I can understand how most people are frustrated with PSA because they feel as if the grades they received were undeserved but my problem with them lies with their poor customer service, inconsistencies with turnaround times and they never take ownership of an issue on their end when it arises. They are basically arrogant and after using SGC once for comparison? I will never use PSA again. I wish I had used SGC to begin with as they were professional and engaging from day one.
I just wish the secondary grading companies' cards held more value. I was going to go with BGS or SGC, but even with high grades, the cards just don't sell for as much. They weren't first to market, and for some reason I guess, people just don't put as much value on their cards.
What if I sent in a DSG 10, and told them not to regrade if it wasn't a PSA 10? My processes say they printed a label, so would that mean I'll get back a 10?
I do not know, I would never have sent one from I am guessing you mean Becket to them, I would have sent it back to Becket. I would guess they will put it through their own grading service and slab it that way. I do not work for them though.
I just received my PSA MINT 1983 Ryne Sandberg Rookie. Obviously the experts didnt notice the tear right in the center of the card that goes all the way thru!
Really suprised no one is handling these valuable cards with gloves (not cloth - latex or nitrile). You'd think that would be a requirement of all cards received - whether it be a moden card or rare pre-war era baseball card.
Guess I won't be sending to PSA unless they adopt better practices when handling people's cards, some of which can run into the $1000's and higher. Do they really not wear gloves when inspecting the cards?
hey, sleeves, toploaders, and card savers have been increasing in price and demand. i hear you guys just throw them out. can you just ship them back with the order? it would kind of help the shortage and price hike of those accessories.
I was thinking the exact same - I don't want some grubby hands going over my cards especially if one I send in turns out to be a £1800 PSA 10 1st edition Charizard.
Yeah seriously, they should not even be needing to touch the cards. Have some machine to safely get it out of the original holder. Etc., etc. I handle my cards ten times better than this video, while thinking that if I send one in they'll handle it even better.
+luvkountry I don't, I feel PSA hands out 10's to often and that that devalues all their graded cards. I would rather own a Beckett 9.5 than a PSA 10 because Beckett is much harder to get a good grade from.
every card i have ever sent to psa has been graded way lower than i thought. plus more than a few have been set back with a ding or bent corner. in other words if they have the same card and it belongs to a better paying person your card goes to them and you get the crap card back. psa is a joke.
I just called PSA and they are not taking cards for grading even if you are a member. But they will take cards if you pay $100 to $200.00 a card. I asked why and the guy said they will not take my cards because they like to take the $100.00 cards before they take mine. But once they catch up they will start taking our cards, but for now they will
+B Jaffe I have not actually dealt with PSA to be honest with you, but I see in the video and also know that Beckett requires you to put it in a penny sleeve and then in the clear card holder II which I do not like at all. I actually bend a card packing it because of one of those.
Watched this video with interest. Noticed some discrepencies in handling as well as another viewer. Shouldn't all the dust or any loose debris be vaccumed off the cards front and back before being sealed into the plastic case. Ever notice the dust floating in the air...
Personally I use Beckett because I think that PSA hands out to many 10's I have seen so many PSA 10's in a set yet not even a third as many BGS 10's and the BGS 10's always sell for more unless it is a pre 1980 card.
so in the beginning of the video Joe talks about the cards having any identifying information removed before the grading process to avoid bias. but if you watch the video on the "lucky 7 find" of T206 Ty Cobb's he talks about how he knew the cards were coming in and was there for their arrival and walked them to the grading floor personally for authentication and grading. not saying he showed bias but don't you think it's possible bias happens. another example is the 1954 Hank Aaron from the Dimitri Young collection that was not graded a gem 10 until Dimitri submitted the card for the 3Rd time for consideration of it being bumped from a PSA 9 to a PSA10? Because everyone who has seen the card knows it lack the 'eye appeal" of most PSA10 cards b/c of centering. Sure PSA allows a margin on centering even on a Gem Mint 10 grade but why was this margin not given the first 2 times Dimitri submitted the card for grading? Bias, possible? Everybody at PSA has to recognize it good for business to have the best cards slabbed in a PSA holder. Just like the Wagner card that has now become to be known to be trimmed in an early interview the owner of PSA boost about how he is one of the few people in the world to examine the Wagner under magnification and how good it was for PSA to have the best of the best slabbed serial number 1 in a PSA holder? So does PSA sometimes show bias in certain situations?? Guess only they know for sure. All that said I still have all cards graded only by them because let's face it a PSA certified card bring the most $$ on resale
I agree with everything except your last line, I see Beckett bring more money on just about everything post 1983 but PSA brings more pre 1983 Personally I will not buy a PSA card anymore, I think they hand out way to many 10's and to card that do not deserve them. Just my opinion.
Hopefully they are using gloves now a days and handle the cards a lot better lol... I sent in 3 10s and will get them back with fingerprints and ink all over them as 7s
wouldnt that be because nowaways, cards are just coming out of better, more sophisticated machines, which make alot cards nicer and sharper on average...than say, maybe 10-20 years ago?
so disappointed with psa thisbwas my first time sending cards tobget graded i send 2 1986 micheal jordan rookie auto that i obtained at flight camp they send my cards ungraded saying not authentic and they lost my upper deck certificates ... couldn't help me in any way now i have my cards with no certificate...
That might be the problem... The Jordan rookie (i assume its the fleer one) was not a rookie auto, but rather a base rookie. It is also the most duplicated card on the market. For every authentic one, there are probably 10 fakes.
it's quite simple.The only guaranteed authentic autograph is the one which object you handed to the individual who signed it as you closely observed him/her doing so. NOW DOESN'T THAT MAKE PERFECT SENSE?
What a waste of resources. These people need to spend their time doing something better than grading cards. These people are touching your precious cards with their oily hand and encapsulate your touched up card in some case. Plus, grading is subjective for everybody. Waste of money and time.
I used psa to authenticate a Hank Aaron auto card that I bought from qvc authenticated by scoreboard.I sent it in and got my card back saying the authenticator wasnt comfortable with the auto.WTF!!.So they sent it back with a company credit but still ripped me off like $18 on shipping.That's their job to authenticate autographs!.Choose jsa or Beckett!!..
I agree.Honestly anything not autographed in person is up to at least a small bit of scrutiny.But I think my card should have been judged on it's own merit.It's their job to authenticate autos.That's what they're paid to do.So why should a person be uncomfortable?.I've been using jsa ever since and have no complaints.Which sucks because honestly psa is more recognized.And usually commands a higher value...
i'm thinking the person grading was uncomfortable putting a stamp of approval because he saw things in the autograph that wasn't consistent to his older autographs. the grader wasn't 100% sure of the authenticity. many times, sportstars have one of their relatives do all the signings.
freddieman c Your probably right.It was just kinda disappointing in general.I mean if it failed at least that would have been something.Funny u should mention relatives maybe doing some signings.I recently got two Wilson Ramos insert autos from his rookie year.The signatures look totally different.I wonder if there was ever a case where that has happened on a insert card?.I looked into it a little and came up with nothing.But people being people it probably has happened sometime I would guess.That could ruin the hobby.Or at least put a dent in it...
I heard people saying luka had his mom signing vlad jr signing cards and just throwing them in the box and theres more i heard having relatices signing but thos are the big names right now that dont give a shit about your cards or what the autos look like there their to get a check thats it smh what a shame
WHY ARE THEY HANDLING CARDS WITH NO GLOVES ON ? LEAVING FINGER PRINTS ON CARDS,AND BY THE TIME THEY GET TO THE NEXT GRADER THE SURFACE GRADE,BECAUSE OF THEIR HANDLING PROCEDURE,MAKES THE GRADE LOWER,HELLO ? THIS IS THE FAMOUS PSA ? WHAT THE HECK ? THIS IS SUPPOSE TO BE PROFFESIONAL ?
Hope they aren't really hiring more right now. Soon enough a fully computerized grading company will cut major costs from this game and swoop up investors..
@tnic469 - Well it would be fraud to claim you are a professional in a field where there is established qualities that would make someone a professional. Card grading would not be one of those fields. A professional could also be someone who makes a livelihood being paid to do something that alot of amateurs do for nothing. That would actually fit perfectly in this case. Nothing wrong I see here in calling themselves professionals.
Id love to see an updated video
Im sure not much has changed
Same thing but everyone is stressed out and orders are piling up
I’d LOVE to see an update!
I've seen the 2021 grading process, it's just a RUclips short of this guy throwing darts.
It's been 16 years, still waiting on my graded PSA cards. Maybe if they turn the lights on, they'll see it's on the floor or something
I would have figured you would have mounted an expedition by now to going into the card realm and get them away from the Nazi hoard?
@@bpnsirdiealot A quest to recover the grail PSA 10 slabs is currently underway. My father has also gone missing and I assume he's being held captive there, grading countless Pokemon cards against his will. I'll keep you updated.
@@indianajones6887 Oh no! The Dreaded Pokemon cards, how inhumane!!!
Steve Grad is a busy man
They should make an updated video, showing how much things have changed, and what it's like today.
If it has.
it probably hasn't changed much at all.
They still dont use gloves
@@Electronic424 You are likely correct, which is why it takes forever to get bulk orders back. With my last one, it took 120 business days for it to be finished and returned. SMH
@Black Jack You lost me at Yuglioh
They should not be handling cards with their bare hands :( (especially during the grading process and encapsulating)
I agree.
Seriously......and how about the way he just plops that 56 Koufax in the holder @ 2:53.
Aaa, no big deal with this $2000 card.
GordonLLC do they need to give a reason as to why they gave them a certain grade?
GordonLLC I was surprised gloves were not worn.
GordonLLC Unfortunately gloves have a tendency to give the card massive marks across the surface
Dude jammed the Eddie Matthews rookie in the box. This was eye opening for all the wrong ways. Thanks psa.
I rarely deal with grading stuff. They rob people and try to devalue people's cards by 100s of dollars for something you can't see unless under a microscope or slight fray or creese. It's a racket. Always has been Since 1991 and is obviously a government hand dipped racket. That killed the hobby to profit off of robbing people. I sent the same card to 3 different grading companies just for kicks. Got it back all different grades, then cracked the slab sent the same card back to the same company and again all different grades again. Meanwhile if a 52 mantle was in someones hand with a creese or fray corner noone would care and still sell for whatever. I know I woundnt care. Catch my drift? Cards sell for the right value to the right buyer who actually loves the hobby, player, sport or character. Who the fuck are you and where you get the nerve (government helped or not) to charge US PEOPLE 20-75$ OR MORE A FKN CARD!?*FOR OUR OWN CARDS!? AND THEN YOU GIVE NO REASONS FOR THE GRADE BACK TO THE CUSTOMER!!! Experienced eye appeal and simple answer is all a card needs. Someone who knows what its worth by simple eye appeal. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to tell if a card is in good condition. Why would someone pay 20-75$ or more to tell you something that you already know lol. Not this sucker lol. Only an idiot does. And then grading companies talk trash about other grading companies that charge less because they like to be fair with their customers and do it for the right reasons . With how things are today with social media, everyone connected, grading companies will be obsolete in the future and companies like PSA( pretty stupid answers) will be on a decline business wise. Thanks to people like me and others together to form a new grading SYSTEM. One that is honest, fair, and much cheaper to the public 😉. And people won't need to submit 20 at a time mandatory at 25 $ a piece lol. Get the fuck out or here
@@myeyesonly8207 I rarely deal with grading stuff. They rob people and try to devalue people's cards by 100s of dollars for something you can't see unless under a microscope or slight fray or creese. It's a racket. Always has been Since 1991 and is obviously a government hand dipped racket. That killed the hobby to profit off of robbing people. I sent the same card to 3 different grading companies just for kicks. Got it back all different grades, then cracked the slab sent the same card back to the same company and again all different grades again. Meanwhile if a 52 mantle was in someones hand with a creese or fray corner noone would care and still sell for whatever. I know I woundnt care. Catch my drift? Cards sell for the right value to the right buyer who actually loves the hobby, player, sport or character. Who the fuck are you and where you get the nerve (government helped or not) to charge US PEOPLE 20-75$ OR MORE A FKN CARD!?*FOR OUR OWN CARDS!? AND THEN YOU GIVE NO REASONS FOR THE GRADE BACK TO THE CUSTOMER!!! Experienced eye appeal and simple answer is all a card needs. Someone who knows what its worth by simple eye appeal. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to tell if a card is in good condition. Why would someone pay 20-75$ or more to tell you something that you already know lol. Not this sucker lol. Only an idiot does. And then grading companies talk trash about other grading companies that charge less because they like to be fair with their customers and do it for the right reasons . With how things are today with social media, everyone connected, grading companies will be obsolete in the future and companies like PSA( pretty stupid answers) will be on a decline business wise. Thanks to people like me and others together to form a new grading SYSTEM. One that is honest, fair, and much cheaper to the public 😉. And people won't need to submit 20 at a time mandatory at 25 $ a piece lol. Get the fuck out or here
Lmao just seeing this. I swear I’m tweaking out that I’m not wearing gloves
@@myeyesonly8207 I hear you, but a graded card gets top dollar
And bare hands
Nope ... PSA is out. I don’t like how they handle the cards and without gloves they have no chance with me. My Rookie Joe Montana should grade 9.5 or 10 and seeing this video concerned me. Some cards are worth 10s of thousands of dollars, and generally look to be handled poorly based on this video. I expected to see gloves and wood tweezers to move the card for any reason. I don’t see gentle handling at any point, and when the card is placed in the protective cover he used finger tips to slide it into place ... finger prints! Treat the high dollars cards with more care.
Sure didn’t look like that Sandy Koufax was “Carefully placed within the holder” to me...the guy dropped the card down in the vicinity of the holder, then slid the card into the “slot”, potentially causing the card edges to get stuck momentarily and/or causing the card to be damaged, especially the lower left corner of that card. If the lower left hand corner caught onto one of the raised edges of the case, that Koufax would potentially be damaged in that corner to an extent that would definitely be noticeable...NOT the way I would be showing off how “carefully” the cards are placed into the slabs...
i have a PSA graded 8 rookie stick and the one upprer left corner is so noticably damaged, i cant believe it got an 8. Im guessing it got damaged in the encasing..... in my experience the card is a 6-7 in a blink, but ill certainly take the 8 grade
Omg...hopefully these folks are simply actors and not the actual authenticator agents handling these cards. If they are agents---wear gloves damn it!
It's well known wearing gloves will actually damage the cards. To this day they still grade without gloves.
J aco really? How do they damage them?
97 Kjf bc u cant feel exactly how much pressure you put on the cards
@@jaco9286 Where is your evidence how gloves damages cards with using gloves.
@@charizardchaser was already stated. You dont realize the amount of pressure being applied to handling the cards with gloves on. If the grading companies refuse to handle them with gloves that should tell you something aswell.
Didn't realize how careless PSA is with handling these bare cards. It's no wonder why my cards always come back with weaker grades than I anticipated. I only ship out 100-125 cards per week to be graded, but now they're going to SGC - much better company, plus I hear they use surgical gloves to keep hand oils and potential cheeseburger residue (from lunch time) off your cards!
I deal with BGS myself.
PolarExpress2 Only?
@@OriasX only 150 a week? sheesh
@Black Jack You need to stop buying Yuglioh cards on eBay. I would have thought you learned the last three times.
This video looks like its from 90s
You Could Tell By The Corny Music!
A lot of people underestimate how "90s" the 2000s were. Just like people forget how "80s" the 90s still were. And sort of like how people never really noticed how "70s" the early 80s were.
Ok?
And this only takes 6 months
Seriously, it takes 6 months to get a card graded? If yes that’s crazy
@@westlakeohio Only for bulk orders. The turnaround time is 45 business days for economy which has been temporarily suspended. The turnaround time for regular is 40 business days. The turnaround time starts when they enter it into their system. because of the pandemic it took my cards one month to get entered into the system. I have only 15 business days left on my order.
@@nickb2912 whats your update on how your cards are doing?
my single card i sent in is now in the "research and ID" phase. after 2 weeks.
my bulk cards of 20 cards are on the "received" stage after a week.
So what happens if they are grading your card bare handed and then accidentally drop it, dinging a corner in the process? Give you a crappy grade and move on?
If we send a card to the USA from Canada and it gets a high grade some collectors have been hit with duties on the newly graded value of the cards...This sucks...
i love the old school porno/instructional video music....
Noticed one fellow in your video handling a card with his bare hands...Great for finger & thumbprints...Wouldn't it be best to use thin gloves while handling the cards...
I agree.
For sure...Too many easy grades devalues a lot of cards.. It also adds to the population of other cards that are the same thus reducing the value of a card. I'd love to get some of my cards graded especially the error ones that I have.
So what happens when the cards are lost when shipping back to the customer? Is there insurance on them?
pS how do you get the plastic of if u want to? blow torch and crobar?
Damn this bass line is kicking
No gloves?!?! Seams to many people handle the cards before slabbing....not how I envisioned the process...what a joke!
LuvmyVR6 I agree.
+LuvmyVR6 They didn't seem to be very careful with handling the cards.
Any wonder why this antiquated process requires so much time to grade a card? Hope they optimize some of the manual labor intensive process since this video.
What's with the dark office?
@Travis Fox BRUH
@Travis Fox LOL!
I'd love to see an updated video
Would definitely be nice
Do u guys know if psa charges u for all the cards u send in, or just the cards u get graded?
What are the qualifications of the Graders? What is their experience? Are they schooled firsr? Is not grading somewhat subjective?
Counting the cards with a open ink pen! Shame!!
Just recently I received through a close family members will a 1952 Topps Mickey Mantle BB Card. I have been collecting for years and I have been trying to decide which grading company to go with. I have never submitted a card for grading so this will be my first time. PSA was the lead choice but the this video has changed that decision. If you were me what would you do and how much do you guestimate this particular grade will cost? I appreciate any advice.
Hello Wesley. One thing I would like to point out is that I posted this in 2009 and I think it was a few years old when I posted it so things may have changed, MAYBE. To be honest I have always been told that cards pre 1983 are best done by PSA and post 1983 to send them to Beckett. I do not like PSA because I think they hand out way to many 10's where Beckett does not seem to hand out nearly as many so I prefer to deal with them. I do have a few PSA but the other reason I prefer Beckett is that their slabs (Cases they encase your card in) seem to be much more substantial than PSA's slabs. By the time I got done with Beckett I think 2 or 3 cards total with fees, mailing there and back, insurance there and back came to between $40-$60 I have not submitted any in about 4-6 years though. My uncle has that same card by the way, though I am not a baseball fan at all I can still appreciate the card and it's history though. I wish you the best of luck and please whatever you decide post back here and let me know how it turned out.
An 2021 updated video would be awesome
How much do they charge to get a t-206 1909-1911 base ball 350 subjects card? I dont know the price or even if they charge and who is recomended for grading?
Great video
What if they mixed up or swapped the cards?
Do I have to put it in a case
I can understand how most people are frustrated with PSA because they feel as if the grades they received were undeserved but my problem with them lies with their poor customer service, inconsistencies with turnaround times and they never take ownership of an issue on their end when it arises. They are basically arrogant and after using SGC once for comparison? I will never use PSA again. I wish I had used SGC to begin with as they were professional and engaging from day one.
I just wish the secondary grading companies' cards held more value. I was going to go with BGS or SGC, but even with high grades, the cards just don't sell for as much. They weren't first to market, and for some reason I guess, people just don't put as much value on their cards.
What if I sent in a DSG 10, and told them not to regrade if it wasn't a PSA 10? My processes say they printed a label, so would that mean I'll get back a 10?
I do not know, I would never have sent one from I am guessing you mean Becket to them, I would have sent it back to Becket. I would guess they will put it through their own grading service and slab it that way. I do not work for them though.
Hello! how does the press work? how much pressure does it have to seal the cards?
Sorry bud I only shared the video, I don't work for them so I have no clue.
Does anyone know the name of this song? Lol.
This better not be the actual process, because I can do this myself, and better than this. I would use some kind of high power microscope, at least!
how much you charge to per card for psa grading
If you work there can you grade your own cards? Asking for a friend
I just received my PSA MINT 1983 Ryne Sandberg Rookie. Obviously the experts didnt notice the tear right in the center of the card that goes all the way thru!
Dear PSA 2022 has arrived and we need a updated video.
I want to do a smaller version of this what sleeves do I use and how do I make the labels?
Endlar Filmations Use a printer I guess?
updated version pls, show us why you are the best grading company
how much does grading cost per card
Really suprised no one is handling these valuable cards with gloves (not cloth - latex or nitrile). You'd think that would be a requirement of all cards received - whether it be a moden card or rare pre-war era baseball card.
How do I do card grading?
so nobody is paying attention to the AMAZING background music?
Oh yea, groovy!
POKEMON
Not my cup of tea.
No, my cup of tea.
Guess I won't be sending to PSA unless they adopt better practices when handling people's cards, some of which can run into the $1000's and higher. Do they really not wear gloves when inspecting the cards?
how much is the price
hey, sleeves, toploaders, and card savers have been increasing in price and demand. i hear you guys just throw them out. can you just ship them back with the order? it would kind of help the shortage and price hike of those accessories.
I was thinking the exact same - I don't want some grubby hands going over my cards especially if one I send in turns out to be a £1800 PSA 10 1st edition Charizard.
Yeah seriously, they should not even be needing to touch the cards. Have some machine to safely get it out of the original holder. Etc., etc. I handle my cards ten times better than this video, while thinking that if I send one in they'll handle it even better.
You'd have 250k pound now 😂
How do you figure that a card that gets an easy 10 is more valuable than a card that receives a 10 based on its 'true merits.?
+luvkountry I don't, I feel PSA hands out 10's to often and that that devalues all their graded cards. I would rather own a Beckett 9.5 than a PSA 10 because Beckett is much harder to get a good grade from.
SGC is better for pre war cards
Interesting that this video is still around. I imagine things are very different now a days
I Sent in 17 cards through a Friend. It's been over a 1 Year now. Is that Right ✅. Or Did He Scam me?
Not normally but with covid everything's messed up. I can't say whether it's scammed you or not.
@bpnsirdiealot I actually like PSA for vintage cards,BGS for newer ones,but there is NO way i would go with PSA on authentication.of autographs.
Why
every card i have ever sent to psa has been graded way lower than i thought. plus more than a few have been set back with a ding or bent corner. in other words if they have the same card and it belongs to a better paying person your card goes to them and you get the crap card back. psa is a joke.
Crazy that this guy went on to watch the Simpsons enough to come up with Family Guy.
@rmleider then send the card to Beckett. Theyre more knowledgable about grading in my opinion.
I just called PSA and they are not taking cards for grading even if you are a member. But they will take cards if you pay $100 to $200.00 a card. I asked why and the guy said they will not take my cards because they like to take the $100.00 cards before they take mine. But once they catch up they will start taking our cards, but for now they will
Do you need a clear sleeve in order to send off a card?
+B Jaffe I have not actually dealt with PSA to be honest with you, but I see in the video and also know that Beckett requires you to put it in a penny sleeve and then in the clear card holder II which I do not like at all. I actually bend a card packing it because of one of those.
+bpnsirdiealot Ok. Thanks so much! I have a hard time with the sleeves to!
Ruined a card that there are only 10 of.
+bpnsirdiealot I am so sad for you!
Thanks, it was a triple autograph card too. Hope I can afford a replacement for it one day.
They need to make a new video, that's in HD.
And better than this one in how they show you what they do.
is there any minimum amount of cards and price?
I can't honestly say, I have not dealt with them to be honest.
Reading the comments somehow makes me think this video is nothing more than a parody for memes haha 😆
What do they do if a card is identified as a fake?
You would have to call and ask them, I would make sure to keep receipt for any purchase though.
I’m pretty sure they just ship it back to you and it says something on the lines of not being authentic
How old is this video? Was it made in the 90s?
Not sure to be honest with you, I posted this 11 years ago.
Watched this video with interest. Noticed some discrepencies in handling as well as another viewer. Shouldn't all the dust or any loose debris be vaccumed off the cards front and back before being sealed into the plastic case. Ever notice the dust floating in the air...
Personally I use Beckett because I think that PSA hands out to many 10's I have seen so many PSA 10's in a set yet not even a third as many BGS 10's and the BGS 10's always sell for more unless it is a pre 1980 card.
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In what way? I would be interested in hearing your opinion.
+bpnsirdiealot maybe buy Beckett 10s but get ur cards graded by PSA cuz ur more likely to get a 10
That would only devalue them.
bpnsirdiealot PSA 10 doesnt not = a BGS 10
so in the beginning of the video Joe talks about the cards having any identifying information removed before the grading process to avoid bias. but if you watch the video on the "lucky 7 find" of T206 Ty Cobb's he talks about how he knew the cards were coming in and was there for their arrival and walked them to the grading floor personally for authentication and grading. not saying he showed bias but don't you think it's possible bias happens. another example is the 1954 Hank Aaron from the Dimitri Young collection that was not graded a gem 10 until Dimitri submitted the card for the 3Rd time for consideration of it being bumped from a PSA 9 to a PSA10? Because everyone who has seen the card knows it lack the 'eye appeal" of most PSA10 cards b/c of centering. Sure PSA allows a margin on centering even on a Gem Mint 10 grade but why was this margin not given the first 2 times Dimitri submitted the card for grading? Bias, possible? Everybody at PSA has to recognize it good for business to have the best cards slabbed in a PSA holder. Just like the Wagner card that has now become to be known to be trimmed in an early interview the owner of PSA boost about how he is one of the few people in the world to examine the Wagner under magnification and how good it was for PSA to have the best of the best slabbed serial number 1 in a PSA holder? So does PSA sometimes show bias in certain situations?? Guess only they know for sure. All that said I still have all cards graded only by them because let's face it a PSA certified card bring the most $$ on resale
I agree with everything except your last line, I see Beckett bring more money on just about everything post 1983 but PSA brings more pre 1983 Personally I will not buy a PSA card anymore, I think they hand out way to many 10's and to card that do not deserve them. Just my opinion.
Man this was a trip to the past here lol
Hopefully they are using gloves now a days and handle the cards a lot better lol... I sent in 3 10s and will get them back with fingerprints and ink all over them as 7s
I never knew this video existed
wouldnt that be because nowaways, cards are just coming out of better, more sophisticated machines, which make alot cards nicer and sharper on average...than say, maybe 10-20 years ago?
so disappointed with psa thisbwas my first time sending cards tobget graded i send 2 1986 micheal jordan rookie auto that i obtained at flight camp they send my cards ungraded saying not authentic and they lost my upper deck certificates ... couldn't help me in any way now i have my cards with no certificate...
That might be the problem... The Jordan rookie (i assume its the fleer one) was not a rookie auto, but rather a base rookie. It is also the most duplicated card on the market. For every authentic one, there are probably 10 fakes.
What is that press called ??
Beats me
@@bpnsirdiealot ultrasonic welders figured it out
These guys can do whatever the fuck they want and there’s nothing anybody can say about it. It’s just so much money in their pockets.
How much does it cost per card?
$18 i think unless theyre running specials
He's counting the capsules with an ejected ink pen?!? No, no. No.
Their cases crack easily. BGS cases are better clearer and more strong. Also I got a pubic hair in my case from PSA like it was a joke!
Oily ass hands on our cards?
it's quite simple.The only guaranteed authentic autograph is the one which object you handed to the individual who signed it as you closely observed him/her doing so. NOW DOESN'T THAT MAKE PERFECT SENSE?
No
Algorithm should be doing this work.
right
This looks more like a video from early 1990's than 2009.
Anyone here in 2021?
So this is why my 45 day sub takes 1 year to grade now
What a waste of resources. These people need to spend their time doing something better than grading cards. These people are touching your precious cards with their oily hand and encapsulate your touched up card in some case. Plus, grading is subjective for everybody. Waste of money and time.
How much per card?
minh tran 15$
I used psa to authenticate a Hank Aaron auto card that I bought from qvc authenticated by scoreboard.I sent it in and got my card back saying the authenticator wasnt comfortable with the auto.WTF!!.So they sent it back with a company credit but still ripped me off like $18 on shipping.That's their job to authenticate autographs!.Choose jsa or Beckett!!..
QVC scoreboard authenticated doesn't mean its guranteed the real thing.
I agree.Honestly anything not autographed in person is up to at least a small bit of scrutiny.But I think my card should have been judged on it's own merit.It's their job to authenticate autos.That's what they're paid to do.So why should a person be uncomfortable?.I've been using jsa ever since and have no complaints.Which sucks because honestly psa is more recognized.And usually commands a higher value...
i'm thinking the person grading was uncomfortable putting a stamp of approval because he saw things in the autograph that wasn't consistent to his older autographs. the grader wasn't 100% sure of the authenticity. many times, sportstars have one of their relatives do all the signings.
freddieman c Your probably right.It was just kinda disappointing in general.I mean if it failed at least that would have been something.Funny u should mention relatives maybe doing some signings.I recently got two Wilson Ramos insert autos from his rookie year.The signatures look totally different.I wonder if there was ever a case where that has happened on a insert card?.I looked into it a little and came up with nothing.But people being people it probably has happened sometime I would guess.That could ruin the hobby.Or at least put a dent in it...
I heard people saying luka had his mom signing vlad jr signing cards and just throwing them in the box and theres more i heard having relatices signing but thos are the big names right now that dont give a shit about your cards or what the autos look like there their to get a check thats it smh what a shame
I wish I knew the title to this song
It's called "90s Hip Commercial Theme"
Psa graded cards get top money when you sale it online from what i have seen
Actually Becket tends to bring much more when it comes to modern cards and PSA does better with cards pre 1983 from what I have seen.
You would think how much they charge they could afford more light bulbs and some gloves
WHY ARE THEY HANDLING CARDS WITH NO GLOVES ON ? LEAVING FINGER PRINTS ON CARDS,AND BY THE TIME THEY GET TO THE NEXT GRADER THE SURFACE GRADE,BECAUSE OF THEIR HANDLING PROCEDURE,MAKES THE GRADE LOWER,HELLO ? THIS IS THE FAMOUS PSA ? WHAT THE HECK ? THIS IS SUPPOSE TO BE PROFFESIONAL ?
Beckett BGS is better. Better cases. More true grades.
Seth McFarland ?
+Crystal Nolen ?
Hope they aren't really hiring more right now. Soon enough a fully computerized grading company will cut major costs from this game and swoop up investors..
should be brightlights
They touched a lot of PSA10 Charizard
you do this with a set of.. say 30 cards itll cost u around $600 in most cases this is never worth is unless u got some bigtime oldies in ex condition
@tnic469 - Well it would be fraud to claim you are a professional in a field where there is established qualities that would make someone a professional. Card grading would not be one of those fields. A professional could also be someone who makes a livelihood being paid to do something that alot of amateurs do for nothing. That would actually fit perfectly in this case. Nothing wrong I see here in calling themselves professionals.