I listened to this sermon after much time with tears on my cheeks. Last year I went through the hardest time of my life. Rejected by my parents, best friends, and the pastor of the church. Constantly battling spiritual attacks and dealing with traumas from childhood. One day I arrived to exasperation and I wrote down on a paper the list of my problems, what God did wrong, and how He should have done things differently. I went into prayer and after reading the letter, God did speak to me. I've been humbled and changed since that day.
I learn so much through him, all his talks are available for us to hear God through. David was not always right, just a man, he was controversial, I in 40 years have not found anyone to teach the bible as wonderfully as he did. Thank you God for David, his life and his works, & we have his legacy to spread to everyone now
I come back to you dear teacher after many years on the day Orthodox Church celebrates Job. I remain speechless at the clarity and good sense you show in your speech. Memory Eternal, dear teacher!☦
Great Job !!! Many things Brother Pawson says come from side research and points out things easily missed when reading scripture....THANK YOU BROTHER !!!! GOD BLESS AND MARANATHA !!!
9:45 friend has a false vision 10:05 but Job says why am I suffering more than most ppl 17:40 "forcing facts to fit their faith" 20:05 "I'm not conscious of anything that I'm doing wrong" 31:20 "will you condemn Me to justify yourself.." 33:55 "I despise myself and repent in dust and ashes" 34:05 he says the main thing is that God is talking to Job again.. 34:30 but I think this might have been the main point of the whole thing "I know everything you do is right. I should've trusted You" 35:01 "you have not spoken of Me what was right as my servant Job has" 36:01 "the test was would Job trust God without knowing" 41:10 The main point: Job saying "I don't need to know as long as we're talking again" I sure wish pawson taught more on hearing the voice of God-hes hanging a great deal of the meaning of these texts on that type of reality
21:45 Cites a scene from "Fiddler on the Roof" as a comparison w/ the text 25:01 "Job could've read the sermon on the mount and say, 'I have kept all that.'" Dear Lord what a thought! (Reviewing chp31)
When we listen to the others teaching the bible, be careful ask holy spirit to give us wisdom what is right and what is not, that means we eat the meat of fish not the bones!
KJV 7 And it was so, that after the Lord had spoken these words unto Job, the Lord said to Eliphaz the Temanite, My wrath is kindled against thee, and against thy two friends: for ye have not spoken of me the thing that is right, as my servant Job hath. So, Job was spoken of Him the things that were right.
God Bless David Pawson, RIP. Both parts of this series are great and worthy. The only part Mr. Pawson gets wrong is Behemoth and Leviathan, it makes no sense that after talking about numerous animals that two more animals need to be discussed. Leviathan is historically identified as the Devil, Satan, the Serpent. So, then what is comparable? Behemoth is more of a mystery, perhaps God is referring to the powers and principalities that St. Paul talks so much about. Lastly, the reason Job gets his stuff back at the end is because Job is a type of Christ, as Mr. Pawson noted. In the text, Job being made whole works as a type of resurrection in the text.
My understanding is that God is Sovereign and in control of everything, even things we don't understand, hence we can have joy in the midst of difficult circumstances. Praying that God will show Himself strong in your daughter's diagnosis. He is a healer and restorer. Rest in God ❤️
32:10 I do adhere to the idea that the creatures mentioned are not animals alive today. The hippo doesn’t have a tail the size of a tree. Also it makes it clear none can challenge these creatures due to their size. When I picture the scene of Job looking at a sauropod dinosaur, I picture a scene similar to the scene from Jurassic Park of something so big that just goes about it’s business without worry because of its size it doesn’t have to be concerned with anything. It paints a much clearer picture of God’s power to me. It also goes to show that if animals like that are no longer around the comparison God used is no longer easily accessed. And yet, we as humans are still fascinated by creatures of the past. People will already get out the swords and yell at me for saying creationist thinking. I don’t claim to 100% know the truth and discredit all the work that paleontologists have done. I just think there is more going on that we as humans just can’t see nor will understand in this life. I love paleontology but I admit the information is so limited that it’s impossible to know. There is a meme of a hippo skull and how paleontology would reconstruct it with the information available if hippos were not alive. Doesn’t even look like a hippo.
It is a very good question - but we place so much emphasis on the hear and now - when we live in a fallen world and God is focussed on the future - eternity As a Parent we can lock our Children up in cotton wool or ......allow them to experience life. This is the refining, maturing process we all go through "No temptation has overtaken you except what is common to mankind. And God is faithful; he will not let you be tested beyond what you can bear " We all focus on Jobs hardship but in the end God blessed him with twice as much as he had before - so is God a hateful God who allows us to suffer - remember it was Satan who desired to hurt Job, God allowed but he did not direct Satan to do so ! - or is God, a God who does not allow us to be tested beyond what we can bare and in the end ............will reward us with a double measure ?
@@DavidPawsonMinistry A lot of points to go on I dont know where to begin. First of you raise another piece of scripture that I also struggle with: "..not being tempted beyond what you can bear." It is something I long to believe, perhaps I have more faith in that than I did in the past, particularly having to know the difference between being tempted and tested; both of which are enough to differentiate among themselves but I suppose are tricky to define when the pressures on. As for over protective parenting: knowing believing parents whom do it themselves, lets just say Im not for it even with things getting as bad as they are.
It's disappointing that many Bible teachers, Pastor Pawson included, do not appreciate that Job's wife (at 5:49 "she was insensitive") is tested as much as, if not more severely than Job himself. "Curse God and die" seems to be all that defines Job's wife, not what brought her to that cliff. She obviously did not have the kind of faith Job had, to sustain herself. Instead of treating her as a companion in times of testing, self-centered Job rebukes rather than comforts her. Like others whose faith has been shipwrecked in the midst of afflictions, her story is not handled with any compassion - least by Bible teachers who've never gone through what Mrs Job did. How is it that bible teachers are often the hardest people to teach the bible to?
Lorraine Grant - on re-reading my own comments, and learning more about Pastor Pawson's personal family life, i have been harsh on him, and i apologise. for that. Mrs Job's anger with God at the lost her children in tragic accidents is indeed understandable. In the end her faith may well have been restored along with Job's although this is not stated.
+chhmar99utube It is a valid point you make about Mrs Job. If a character is mentioned in the bible we should pay attention to them and have empathy for their situation.
I think you are wrong in this .. Let me explain.. When Peter confronted Jesus that he should not die, did Jesus comfort him.. no..he rebuked him and called him Satan, because he was not mindful of the things of God. We are called to love God more then our spouses. Jobs wife. In her curse God and die, was a mouthpiece for Satan, and needed to be rebuked not comforted. He put God before all, he wife rejected God.. Can u understand?
So apparently the Hippo has the tail of a cedar and crocodiles can breath fire lol the bible speaks of leviathan and behemoth, great and powerful beasts, but their description defies modern science. But because he is soooo logical he cannot even bring himself to admit that God has created what would be considered a mythical beast like a dragon or a sea monster. God is more powerful than his intellect (however large lol) I love his talks but I always take God at his word, if he made these great beasts or created the world in 6 days then I believe God completely 🙏
Please can someone answer this question? If every single person will be judged, what about those of us who are born again? Has Jesus's precious blood not washed away all of our sins? so what will we be judged for? Please can someone explain this to me?...thank you!!
It is a great question and I look forward to seeing any other responses as well. I believe we will be judged for lost opportunities we did not take advantage of once born again. Like a serious prompting we know is the Holy Spirit to try and save a soul and we remain quiet out of anxiety, etc. God bless you. :)
@@TheGuitarmanrh Forgot to mention judgement (as I trust & understand it) will determine what rewards we receive. Many crowns we can earn listed in the Bible! We tend to think of judgement as so harsh & it's comforting to consider judgement in not such a negative way. Chuck Missler is another great Bible teacher who helped ally some of my conerns and it's all strictly Biblical. God doesn't want his children living in fear or becoming neurotic. Gospel is good news, right? Have a great day! 😊
I grew up with a father who wanted to kill me. Now while this may be shocking for some it is also an admission of faith for others. My life story is not unusual ... many have lived my life ... we have just not met yet. Do you know what it is like to be say 7 years old and know your father wants you dead, is looking for ways to kill you, and you are fearful of the food he serves you. Heck this is no joke ... this is reality. My best friend in life was the son of my Reverend. He was a much bigger man than my father ... and ex professional football player ... a man I literally looked up to and a man who I emotionally looked up to at the same time. My reverend spoke to my father on my behalf. My father killed himself with a 12 inch kitchen knife shortly there after. That was justiice in the 1960's.
What God said about the Earth is not poetry but is factual. The Earth is flat with pillars below and the firmament above, the seas are surrounded by the ice wall and God dwells over the firmament (the third Heaven). That’s why God was challenging Job, God is the creator of the Earth. The Bible never said God created Universe. Universe is man made term. The Earth is enclosed system and it shows the handiwork if God, it’s masterpiece. Genesis confirm this as well.
Just to clarify: the animal that God speaks of in the book of Job is not a hippopotamus but actually a dinosaur. Be careful of poor Bible translations, that change the meaning of original texts. In the KJV Bible, for example, this animal is called “the chief of the ways of God” and that “He moveth his tail like a cedar.” Now, does the hippopotamus have a tail like a cedar tree? I think not. This animal is the “chief” or the largest of the animals that God made and so is most probably something like a Brontosaurus or Brachiosaurus. This scripture also gives evidence that dinosaurs did indeed live with man and not millions of years ago as evolution teaches.
maybe we should consider as a spiritual story ! of 7 sons all having there day, Jesus, or how ever you want to pronounce, Day was 7th day, we are not to bow down to wrong spirits or gods, sons, but to wait till 7000 yrs Day , & give Him His due Service, on 7th day! [not Sunday - marks you]. but dies comes back on 3rd day, come out of whales [man-kind] belly; Christ dwells in us. teaches by Word . Word made Flesh in His Body, they find Him in Word! He comes in volume of Book! Job is All Gods Trouble with His people! He takes on all our trouble trying to get find a bride a body the suits, fits Head Right spirit, raised up in righteousness {-is of the Law}. One New Man-kind fitting Head! Bride
I listened to this sermon after much time with tears on my cheeks. Last year I went through the hardest time of my life. Rejected by my parents, best friends, and the pastor of the church. Constantly battling spiritual attacks and dealing with traumas from childhood. One day I arrived to exasperation and I wrote down on a paper the list of my problems, what God did wrong, and how He should have done things differently. I went into prayer and after reading the letter, God did speak to me. I've been humbled and changed since that day.
Praise the Lord - to Him be the Glory
God bless you my friend!
Surely, he makes you love the Bible. He passed away in May, 2020 at the age of 90. RIP Mr Pawson.
Noooooooo why he’s such a great person (ᗒᗣᗕ)՞
I learn so much through him, all his talks are available for us to hear God through. David was not always right, just a man, he was controversial, I in 40 years have not found anyone to teach the bible as wonderfully as he did. Thank you God for David, his life and his works, & we have his legacy to spread to everyone now
I love his teachings. I watched all his videos and still keep coming back to it.
I come back to you dear teacher after many years on the day Orthodox Church celebrates Job. I remain speechless at the clarity and good sense you show in your speech. Memory Eternal, dear teacher!☦
The Book of Job has never been so clear to me like today. Thank you God for David Pawson
4:20 "it's that pain that's the biggest challenge to faith-the pain of loosing contact with God"
Very true!!!
Great Job !!! Many things Brother Pawson says come from side research and points out things easily missed when reading scripture....THANK YOU BROTHER !!!! GOD BLESS AND MARANATHA !!!
The word of God is beautiful
Mr.Pawson's teaching strongly impressed me and deeply touched me, so inspiring. Thank you, and wish you rest& peace in heaven.
Wow very insightful. Thank you Lord for this great teachings🙏
Blessed man of God. Truly Annointed by the Holy Spirit.
Am blessed and inspired by your teachings to continue studying the Word of God. Rest in peace great teacher of our times
Best Bible teacher ever!
no matter how we take this book, thank you for sharing!, bringing out what you see! He wants us to Know Him [TRUTH] Amen
I love this guy
J T me too. He brings the bible to life
Me too!
Listen to the anointing of the holy spirit by david!
Key to salvation! In detail!
I disagree with his stance on Elihu and Leviathan but he's a super great teacher. RIP Pawson. See you in heaven.
Agreed
Praise God and thanks God for sharing,God bless you more Pastor David
Dave- I know you are no longer here with us. But your words have left me amazed. What a gift. MASTER OF THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE. WISDOM FROM ABOVE❤
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9:45 friend has a false vision
10:05 but Job says why am I suffering more than most ppl
17:40 "forcing facts to fit their faith"
20:05 "I'm not conscious of anything that I'm doing wrong"
31:20 "will you condemn Me to justify yourself.."
33:55 "I despise myself and repent in dust and ashes"
34:05 he says the main thing is that God is talking to Job again..
34:30 but I think this might have been the main point of the whole thing "I know everything you do is right. I should've trusted You"
35:01 "you have not spoken of Me what was right as my servant Job has"
36:01 "the test was would Job trust God without knowing"
41:10 The main point: Job saying "I don't need to know as long as we're talking again" I sure wish pawson taught more on hearing the voice of God-hes hanging a great deal of the meaning of these texts on that type of reality
This teaching gave me some new perspectives. Praise the Lord.
I also want to point out that God didn't get angry with Elihu as other 3 friends.
I never get tired of this verse.
Never ever. I listen to this almost every night
Great man. Things I never considered but was made aware of years ago
Nobody is God but only Jesus Christ, and only holy spirit can guide us into all truth !
Jesus is the Son of God. The Father is God.
What a teaching!
21:45 Cites a scene from "Fiddler on the Roof" as a comparison w/ the text
25:01 "Job could've read the sermon on the mount and say, 'I have kept all that.'" Dear Lord what a thought! (Reviewing chp31)
When we listen to the others teaching the bible, be careful ask holy spirit to give us wisdom what is right and what is not, that means we eat the meat of fish not the bones!
KJV 7 And it was so, that after the Lord had spoken these words unto Job, the Lord said to Eliphaz the Temanite, My wrath is kindled against thee, and against thy two friends: for ye have not spoken of me the thing that is right, as my servant Job hath. So, Job was spoken of Him the things that were right.
Thank you! 🥀
God Bless David Pawson, RIP. Both parts of this series are great and worthy. The only part Mr. Pawson gets wrong is Behemoth and Leviathan, it makes no sense that after talking about numerous animals that two more animals need to be discussed. Leviathan is historically identified as the Devil, Satan, the Serpent. So, then what is comparable? Behemoth is more of a mystery, perhaps God is referring to the powers and principalities that St. Paul talks so much about. Lastly, the reason Job gets his stuff back at the end is because Job is a type of Christ, as Mr. Pawson noted. In the text, Job being made whole works as a type of resurrection in the text.
Thank you. Now I get the book of Job.
But how can Job be happier because having more children can never replace the sorrow of losing even one kid ...
My young daughter was just diagnosed with breast cancer. It broke my heart. God, please have mmercy!
My understanding is that God is Sovereign and in control of everything, even things we don't understand, hence we can have joy in the midst of difficult circumstances.
Praying that God will show Himself strong in your daughter's diagnosis. He is a healer and restorer. Rest in God ❤️
@@joyjiang2326Is she ok now?
32:10 I do adhere to the idea that the creatures mentioned are not animals alive today. The hippo doesn’t have a tail the size of a tree. Also it makes it clear none can challenge these creatures due to their size. When I picture the scene of Job looking at a sauropod dinosaur, I picture a scene similar to the scene from Jurassic Park of something so big that just goes about it’s business without worry because of its size it doesn’t have to be concerned with anything. It paints a much clearer picture of God’s power to me. It also goes to show that if animals like that are no longer around the comparison God used is no longer easily accessed. And yet, we as humans are still fascinated by creatures of the past. People will already get out the swords and yell at me for saying creationist thinking. I don’t claim to 100% know the truth and discredit all the work that paleontologists have done. I just think there is more going on that we as humans just can’t see nor will understand in this life. I love paleontology but I admit the information is so limited that it’s impossible to know. There is a meme of a hippo skull and how paleontology would reconstruct it with the information available if hippos were not alive. Doesn’t even look like a hippo.
What did Job mean when he said, what I have feared have come up against me......
A question that lingers in my mind for a long time: Why trust a God who allows the Devil to do what he did with the likes of Job?
It is a very good question - but we place so much emphasis on the hear and now - when we live in a fallen world and God is focussed on the future - eternity
As a Parent we can lock our Children up in cotton wool or ......allow them to experience life. This is the refining, maturing process we all go through
"No temptation has overtaken you except what is common to mankind. And God is faithful; he will not let you be tested beyond what you can bear "
We all focus on Jobs hardship but in the end God blessed him with twice as much as he had before
- so is God a hateful God who allows us to suffer - remember it was Satan who desired to hurt Job, God allowed but he did not direct Satan to do so !
- or is God, a God who does not allow us to be tested beyond what we can bare and in the end ............will reward us with a double measure ?
@@DavidPawsonMinistry A lot of points to go on I dont know where to begin. First of you raise another piece of scripture that I also struggle with: "..not being tempted beyond what you can bear." It is something I long to believe, perhaps I have more faith in that than I did in the past, particularly having to know the difference between being tempted and tested; both of which are enough to differentiate among themselves but I suppose are tricky to define when the pressures on.
As for over protective parenting: knowing believing parents whom do it themselves, lets just say Im not for it even with things getting as bad as they are.
It's disappointing that many Bible teachers, Pastor Pawson included, do not appreciate that Job's wife (at 5:49 "she was insensitive") is tested as much as, if not more severely than Job himself. "Curse God and die" seems to be all that defines Job's wife, not what brought her to that cliff. She obviously did not have the kind of faith Job had, to sustain herself. Instead of treating her as a companion in times of testing, self-centered Job rebukes rather than comforts her. Like others whose faith has been shipwrecked in the midst of afflictions, her story is not handled with any compassion - least by Bible teachers who've never gone through what Mrs Job did. How is it that bible teachers are often the hardest people to teach the bible to?
+chhmar99utube I was thinking a similar thing. Everything Job lost his wife also lost. Bereavement makes people have uncharacteristic behaviour.
Lorraine Grant - on re-reading my own comments, and learning more about Pastor Pawson's personal family life, i have been harsh on him, and i apologise. for that. Mrs Job's anger with God at the lost her children in tragic accidents is indeed understandable. In the end her faith may well have been restored along with Job's although this is not stated.
+chhmar99utube It is a valid point you make about Mrs Job. If a character is mentioned in the bible we should pay attention to them and have empathy for their situation.
chhmar99utube Is
I think you are wrong in this ..
Let me explain..
When Peter confronted Jesus that he should not die, did Jesus comfort him.. no..he rebuked him and called him Satan, because he was not mindful of the things of God.
We are called to love God more then our spouses.
Jobs wife. In her curse God and die, was a mouthpiece for Satan, and needed to be rebuked not comforted.
He put God before all, he wife rejected God..
Can u understand?
I love your teaching. But the behemoth and the leviathan are NOT the hippo and the crocodile.
Agreed
So what are they then?
@@homuifang Search RUclips 'Dinosaurs and the Bible ("Debunking the 7 Myths that Deny Biblical Truth" Series)'
So apparently the Hippo has the tail of a cedar and crocodiles can breath fire lol the bible speaks of leviathan and behemoth, great and powerful beasts, but their description defies modern science. But because he is soooo logical he cannot even bring himself to admit that God has created what would be considered a mythical beast like a dragon or a sea monster. God is more powerful than his intellect (however large lol)
I love his talks but I always take God at his word, if he made these great beasts or created the world in 6 days then I believe God completely 🙏
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Please can someone answer this question?
If every single person will be judged, what about those of us who are born again? Has Jesus's precious blood not washed away all of our sins? so what will we be judged for? Please can someone explain this to me?...thank you!!
It is a great question and I look forward to seeing any other responses as well. I believe we will be judged for lost opportunities we did not take advantage of once born again. Like a serious prompting we know is the Holy Spirit to try and save a soul and we remain quiet out of anxiety, etc. God bless you. :)
@@tonyschwartz6712 Thank you Brother, God Bless You Brother!!!!
@@TheGuitarmanrh Thank you, friend!
@@TheGuitarmanrh Forgot to mention judgement (as I trust & understand it) will determine what rewards we receive. Many crowns we can earn listed in the Bible! We tend to think of judgement as so harsh & it's comforting to consider judgement in not such a negative way. Chuck Missler is another great Bible teacher who helped ally some of my conerns and it's all strictly Biblical. God doesn't want his children living in fear or becoming neurotic. Gospel is good news, right? Have a great day! 😊
@@tonyschwartz6712 Great response! God bless
I grew up with a father who wanted to kill me. Now while this may be shocking for some it is also an admission of faith for others. My life story is not unusual ... many have lived my life ... we have just not met yet. Do you know what it is like to be say 7 years old and know your father wants you dead, is looking for ways to kill you, and you are fearful of the food he serves you. Heck this is no joke ... this is reality. My best friend in life was the son of my Reverend. He was a much bigger man than my father ... and ex professional football player ... a man I literally looked up to and a man who I emotionally looked up to at the same time. My reverend spoke to my father on my behalf. My father killed himself with a 12 inch kitchen knife shortly there after. That was justiice in the 1960's.
Dear Lord!!!
😮
What God said about the Earth is not poetry but is factual. The Earth is flat with pillars below and the firmament above, the seas are surrounded by the ice wall and God dwells over the firmament (the third Heaven). That’s why God was challenging Job, God is the creator of the Earth. The Bible never said God created Universe. Universe is man made term. The Earth is enclosed system and it shows the handiwork if God, it’s masterpiece. Genesis confirm this as well.
How do I not become a religious bigot, like the "good friends" of Job?
Job sounds so like Bilbo Baggins.
Just to clarify: the animal that God speaks of in the book of Job is not a hippopotamus but actually a dinosaur. Be careful of poor Bible translations, that change the meaning of original texts. In the KJV Bible, for example, this animal is called “the chief of the ways of God” and that “He moveth his tail like a cedar.” Now, does the hippopotamus have a tail like a cedar tree? I think not. This animal is the “chief” or the largest of the animals that God made and so is most probably something like a Brontosaurus or Brachiosaurus. This scripture also gives evidence that dinosaurs did indeed live with man and not millions of years ago as evolution teaches.
*So Job died, being old and full of days.*
That's the last verse of the Book of Job. No need to add verses. It's perfect like that.
maybe we should consider as a spiritual story ! of 7 sons all having there day, Jesus, or how ever you want to pronounce, Day was 7th day, we are not to bow down to wrong spirits or gods, sons, but to wait till 7000 yrs Day , & give Him His due Service, on 7th day! [not Sunday - marks you]. but dies comes back on 3rd day, come out of whales [man-kind] belly; Christ dwells in us. teaches by Word . Word made Flesh in His Body, they find Him in Word! He comes in volume of Book! Job is All Gods Trouble with His people! He takes on all our trouble trying to get find a bride a body the suits, fits Head Right spirit, raised up in righteousness {-is of the Law}. One New Man-kind fitting Head! Bride