Yiheng is just definetly gonna break 3.13 3x3 wr in like 5months or more, as youve mentioned yiheng learned color neutrality,idkifhe started learning zbll but he can 2 look a 3x3 so yea i agree with your "cubing is over" statement but ofc tymon and max can definetly get it too if they practice a lot
I think it’s stupid to consider that a UWR… I mean, I could search up a crazy scramble and get a 2 second solve and get YTWB or something, but that’s not how it works
I am very happy that you addressed this issue, I was going to do it myself, but now that you made a video on it, I am contemplating still doing it😂 amazing video nonetheless, and congrats on the INSANE channel growth!
Smart cubes are fun but I would never count those solves as PBs. Besides I'm happier with a good time on a hard scramble than an amazing time on a ridiculously easy scramble.
If the scramble is done in "random moves", it's not WCA compliant. If the scramble is done in "random state", then it's legal and lucky. Simple as that
This. Random moves does not give an even distribution over all states. With random state, each possible scramble is equally likely. Can still get lucky, but then it truly is just luck and not a bad scrambling program.
Indeed, I see a bunch of comments on here being critical of "smartcubes", but do they or do they not _mathematically_ cause non randomly chosen states?
Afaik Cube Station scrambles are random move, not random state, which makes them significantly less legitimate. You'll notice the 1.05 solution literally reverses the scramble. Also, I wouldn't count any smart cube time as legit anyway even if the scramble is fair because of the lack of pickup/putdown.
the video description in yiheng's 1.92 said that yiheng was trying out bofan's 3x3 scramble and he executed it on a smart cube, though it wasnt the scramble on the app itself. and there's no point in debating on whether this solve is wb or not cos someone other chinese cuber got a 1.05 single on 3x3 like you mentioned in the video...
Cube station totally has Easter scrambles I go from low 20s to mid 22s. Thats with pick no put downs on cube station. Which is no more than a 5th of a second.
You should make a video about “this may be the luckiest cuber ever” Dillion miller just got a 2.95 Pb single (2.3 frame-counted) this solve had an LL skip, he then gets a second LL skip in a row followed by a PLL skip.
I'm actually working on that video right now, just have to come up with a title. That's a pretty good idea for the title, if I do use it I'll shout you out in the description of the video
I'm not a cuber. But the problem with this kind of invalidating of records is that there is no clear boundry for invalidation. Okay, if you invalidate 14move solve, why not invalidate the 15 move one.. etc. we can get to any number like that. Maybe implement a rule where a scramble with a computer optimal solution smaller than let's say 20 is an invalid scramble. I'm sure the upper bound of optimal solution is not that big, so my number might not be right.
I think the reason people are invalidating the solve is because it was done on a smartcube (which doesn't include the pick up/put down time of the cube) and the scrambles that the cube's app generates aren't the same as normal computer generated ones. 14 moves is perfectly legal, it's just that the scramble wasn't generated legally
So my take on it is that the smartcube scrambles are RIDICULOUS as we have seen before because as you said there shouldn’t be a xxxxcross on a reco but we can make like a different category for these scrambles. I also believe that yihengs 1.97 shouldn’t count cause imagine your friend had a good scramble, gave it to you an d you tried it and got a pb time, that wouldn’t count as a PB so it shouldn’t count as WB (in my opinion)
first of all, having a cube 3 moves away from being solved is a dnf right? which means that the cube is scrambled, so if i scramble a cube and solve it in 3 moves in less than a second, does that mean im fast? no. it just means that the scramble was dumb. can i get a that single time but as an average? no. cus thats not my actual speed. so when a cuber gets a really lucky scramble and solves it really fast it doesn’t mean that they are fast. thats my opinion at least, i still think that sub-2 was so damn cool tho.
Since the minimax valua of a Rubik's cube is twenty, would it not be possible to have all generated scrambles be twenty-move solves to make all scrambles technically equal? Or does that take too much computing power to be feasible?
I’m not sure if that’s possible yet. I think there will always be anomalies in a set of scrambles generated. That’s an interesting concept I haven’t thought about before tho
At least with the Python library to do this (even with a 700-meg database to speed the process up), it takes an hour to verify that a given scramble _requires_ 20 moves to solve, since (no disrespect to the optimizations we have found for the algorithm so far) there's no method more efficient than basically just trying every possible sequence of movies shorter than the length. Though cubes that can be solved in _fewer_ than 20 moves will obviously be ruled out much, much quicker.
Welcome to only the beggining of the end. Max and Tymon, please beware. You can't solve this anymore. I swear, YiHeng is a freak of nature. I do the cross in how much time it takes YiHeng on these scrambles. That's how damn ridiculous this is. There's no light. It's time.
@@STUCUBE nice. Can u do some walk through solves showing how you would solve it in maybe 5 solves. I want to learn from better cubers cos I'm stuck at about 15 seconds. Pls use techniques like zbll
You should upload a video about dylan miller's 2.95 With LL Skip And 4.14 Also Last Layer Skip, solve after solve! And it doesn't end there... He got a PLL Skip Right After 2 LL Skips Also mo3 PB And PB Single + PB Ao5 Fail. And i know this comment is already So LONG But He Got Another LL Skip At the beginning of his Live Stream Which in my opinion is The luckiest Thing EVER Including Winning The lottery. Congratulations on 6k!! 🎉🎉
My theory is that GAN/CubeStation is purposely generating easy scrambles so that people who don't know the solves aren't legit (e.g. non-cubers) think "GAN's cubes are so much better, I should buy one to get the best times!" This drives more profits to GAN because more people buy their cubes.
If a scramble isn't generated right then before the solve, it shouldn't count IMO. There are good solves and bad solves, and getting a good time is about the skills and the dedication to keep going until you get a lucky scramble. That just gets rid of the second element. It's like in minecraft RSG doing a run on a seed you already know is good. Even if it's your first time on it it kinda defeats the purpose
smart cube scrambles are pretty consistently too lucky to count, and the use of smart cubes should be an automatic disqualification for world bests. its getting to the point these days when things like this are popping up far too often to be either fair or realistic. we need to stop losing our minds about people claiming 1 second solves with
I have tried smartcubes before and I don't think they should count because I have gotten some stupid scrambles. I count my pb as 5.42 but if smartcubes counted I would've beaten the world record. That doesn't seem right to me.
The fact that all these were smart cube scrambles tells it all I don't think we can count them and like you told the pickup and stopping times are also not there for smart cube solves so it's (kinda ) not legit
Actually there's a scramble that happend in wca competition that's better yiheng Wang's, it happend at Hiroshima 2018 final solve 1: Scramble:D' B' D F B' U F2 U2 B R2 U2 R2 FD2 R2 L2 Inspection:y Triple xcross:R' U' R U2 D' L D2 R2 D Last slot last layer:U' L' U L With no auf 13 moves solution There's also 12 moves one that happend in competition but it's lame
yeaaahhhh i love cross skips and x cross skips and ll skips cause thats very normal I seriously doubt smartcubes are actually scrambled by robots and its scrambled by a hard boiled egg microwaved
The scrambles are nonsense, and if one of these scrambles appear in an official WCA competition with top competitors getting rank 1,2 and 3... all from the same competition with the cross and first pair already done, the hobby is done for. Even a hand scramble would be more random than those 'scrambles'.
No matter how much we think that 3x3 single can't be done any faster, I think that the world record will be sub 1 when someone gets 2 move scramble, but I don't know if that rule of 2 moves is right, because with such a scramble a regular person who is not a speedcuber can also set the world record.
Why you find it so hard to believe that a person who solves the cube in less than 4 seconds in a competition wich is like 20 solves can't do a sub 2 unoficial with in thousands of solves they do weekly.
Yellow top orange front D L B L U’ R2 Cross 3rd pair: U rotate right L’ U2 L U L’ U’ L Forth pair: U’ F’ U’ F U’ R U R’ Sune U perm Found the solution I used
Do smartcube solves count? ⬇️
gan's app scrambles are just so goofy
no 👍
No
No
According to my dog, no 👎
"my friend can solve it in 1 second"
this phrase is actually now getting real
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Yiheng is just definetly gonna break 3.13 3x3 wr in like 5months or more, as youve mentioned yiheng learned color neutrality,idkifhe started learning zbll but he can 2 look a 3x3 so yea i agree with your "cubing is over" statement but ofc tymon and max can definetly get it too if they practice a lot
Yiheng did some T zblls
He’s only 9 as well, he will learn alot
Yiheng isnt really progressing on 3x3 since his 3.47 tied Asr single, so i think the world will forget about yiheng as he never beats his peak
@@cubeinacuberthis aged poorly. He just got 4.36 wr av
@@Iobotomy. ye lmao
Your quality videos is fulfilling J Perm’s role, since he’s not posting very often
Yeah, him and brina sun!
Tbf jperm is too busy playing mk8dx to cube nowadays
I think it’s stupid to consider that a UWR… I mean, I could search up a crazy scramble and get a 2 second solve and get YTWB or something, but that’s not how it works
I am very happy that you addressed this issue, I was going to do it myself, but now that you made a video on it, I am contemplating still doing it😂 amazing video nonetheless, and congrats on the INSANE channel growth!
There are lots of people getting sub 2 solves but what’s sus is they’ve all been smart cube scrambles and I think there’s something sussy going on
Smart cubes are fun but I would never count those solves as PBs. Besides I'm happier with a good time on a hard scramble than an amazing time on a ridiculously easy scramble.
If the scramble is done in "random moves", it's not WCA compliant. If the scramble is done in "random state", then it's legal and lucky. Simple as that
This. Random moves does not give an even distribution over all states. With random state, each possible scramble is equally likely. Can still get lucky, but then it truly is just luck and not a bad scrambling program.
Indeed, I see a bunch of comments on here being critical of "smartcubes", but do they or do they not _mathematically_ cause non randomly chosen states?
I didn't notice until you said that you have 6k subs. Your content is pretty good. Keep on it. Hugs from Brazil 🇧🇷
I lost faith in smart cube scrambles when I got my (former) PR on a scramble with a pre-solved 2x2x2 block.
PR or PB?
@@bigbosspanda1976 Lol PB obviously
It's not a PR if its Smartcube lol
(Since PR = official)
Bro 2:57 actually made me laugh so hard 💀😭
I got a 3.51 on this scramble on my first try.
…my PB is 11.38.
I’m still cackling hysterically.
Afaik Cube Station scrambles are random move, not random state, which makes them significantly less legitimate. You'll notice the 1.05 solution literally reverses the scramble. Also, I wouldn't count any smart cube time as legit anyway even if the scramble is fair because of the lack of pickup/putdown.
I’ve been waiting for this vid 👏
“Shwuanyu zeng” 😭
😂😂😂😂
Yiheng is just on steroids right now. This kid is insane.
Congrats on 7k bro
Thanks. I appreciate it
Why Chinese cubers are so fast.
Because they can read the cube manual instructions
@@Aerolite_FPS 😂😂 Right!
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@@Aerolite_FPSUnderrated
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That 1.05 scramble is absolutely wild
the video description in yiheng's 1.92 said that yiheng was trying out bofan's 3x3 scramble and he executed it on a smart cube, though it wasnt the scramble on the app itself.
and there's no point in debating on whether this solve is wb or not cos someone other chinese cuber got a 1.05 single on 3x3 like you mentioned in the video...
yea my last layer is probably around 3 seconds and tbh i probably can’t beat the 6 year olds with that
4:27 why is ðe undertale font ðere
Well, I can say with full confidence that we are all doomed. Almost sub 1... on 3x3
Cube station totally has Easter scrambles
I go from low 20s to mid 22s. Thats with pick no put downs on cube station. Which is no more than a 5th of a second.
4:27 menacing 😂
Ive waited for this since I saw your comment about the only time we couldn't say being lucky isn't a crime
You should make a video about “this may be the luckiest cuber ever”
Dillion miller just got a 2.95 Pb single (2.3 frame-counted) this solve had an LL skip, he then gets a second LL skip in a row followed by a PLL skip.
If you make this idea come to life, can I get a shoutout?
I'm actually working on that video right now, just have to come up with a title. That's a pretty good idea for the title, if I do use it I'll shout you out in the description of the video
I'm not a cuber. But the problem with this kind of invalidating of records is that there is no clear boundry for invalidation. Okay, if you invalidate 14move solve, why not invalidate the 15 move one.. etc. we can get to any number like that. Maybe implement a rule where a scramble with a computer optimal solution smaller than let's say 20 is an invalid scramble. I'm sure the upper bound of optimal solution is not that big, so my number might not be right.
I think the reason people are invalidating the solve is because it was done on a smartcube (which doesn't include the pick up/put down time of the cube) and the scrambles that the cube's app generates aren't the same as normal computer generated ones. 14 moves is perfectly legal, it's just that the scramble wasn't generated legally
So my take on it is that the smartcube scrambles are RIDICULOUS as we have seen before because as you said there shouldn’t be a xxxxcross on a reco but we can make like a different category for these scrambles. I also believe that yihengs 1.97 shouldn’t count cause imagine your friend had a good scramble, gave it to you an d you tried it and got a pb time, that wouldn’t count as a PB so it shouldn’t count as WB (in my opinion)
first of all, having a cube 3 moves away from being solved is a dnf right? which means that the cube is scrambled, so if i scramble a cube and solve it in 3 moves in less than a second, does that mean im fast? no. it just means that the scramble was dumb. can i get a that single time but as an average? no. cus thats not my actual speed. so when a cuber gets a really lucky scramble and solves it really fast it doesn’t mean that they are fast. thats my opinion at least, i still think that sub-2 was so damn cool tho.
According to the regulations 3x3 solves only need to be 2 moves. But yeah, getting this lucky isn’t really that representative of skill
@@STUCUBE exactly
Me in 1837: solves cube in 150 years: gets wr
Since the minimax valua of a Rubik's cube is twenty, would it not be possible to have all generated scrambles be twenty-move solves to make all scrambles technically equal? Or does that take too much computing power to be feasible?
I’m not sure if that’s possible yet. I think there will always be anomalies in a set of scrambles generated. That’s an interesting concept I haven’t thought about before tho
At least with the Python library to do this (even with a 700-meg database to speed the process up), it takes an hour to verify that a given scramble _requires_ 20 moves to solve, since (no disrespect to the optimizations we have found for the algorithm so far) there's no method more efficient than basically just trying every possible sequence of movies shorter than the length.
Though cubes that can be solved in _fewer_ than 20 moves will obviously be ruled out much, much quicker.
@@codegeek98, thank you, I thought something like that would be the case.
yiheng could even have combined his 11th and 12th move and did m' instead and gotten 13 moves lol
Welcome to only the beggining of the end.
Max and Tymon, please beware. You can't solve this anymore. I swear, YiHeng is a freak of nature. I do the cross in how much time it takes YiHeng on these scrambles. That's how damn ridiculous this is. There's no light. It's time.
The smartcube scrambles are weirder than my big cube solutions
How fast are u at cubing
I average like 9-10
@@STUCUBE nice. Can u do some walk through solves showing how you would solve it in maybe 5 solves. I want to learn from better cubers cos I'm stuck at about 15 seconds. Pls use techniques like zbll
Thank you GAN and its NudeStation, for contributing to human evolution.
Good video, thanks! I regularly solve sub 2...minutes!🤨
You should upload a video about dylan miller's 2.95 With LL Skip And 4.14 Also Last Layer Skip, solve after solve! And it doesn't end there... He got a PLL Skip Right After 2 LL Skips Also mo3 PB And PB Single + PB Ao5 Fail. And i know this comment is already So LONG But He Got Another LL Skip At the beginning of his Live Stream Which in my opinion is The luckiest Thing EVER Including Winning The lottery. Congratulations on 6k!! 🎉🎉
Thank you! I’m actually working on that right now, definitely a cool topic to cover
@@STUCUBE Oh Nice 👍 Also i think you have so much potential Like really almost 7k subs Already?! Can't wait for What is Yet to Come! 🤩🤩
4:27 that 60 year old guy:
My theory is that GAN/CubeStation is purposely generating easy scrambles so that people who don't know the solves aren't legit (e.g. non-cubers) think "GAN's cubes are so much better, I should buy one to get the best times!" This drives more profits to GAN because more people buy their cubes.
That theory can be _easily_ tested, right?
If a scramble isn't generated right then before the solve, it shouldn't count IMO. There are good solves and bad solves, and getting a good time is about the skills and the dedication to keep going until you get a lucky scramble. That just gets rid of the second element.
It's like in minecraft RSG doing a run on a seed you already know is good. Even if it's your first time on it it kinda defeats the purpose
You are 7 times more likely to get 6 PLL skips in a row than this scramble
Is the cube you used for the recon the super weilobg or 20 magnet v9
Yep
i got a 2.26 solve with this scramble with a stackmat timer this scramble is legit not fair.
smart cube scrambles are pretty consistently too lucky to count, and the use of smart cubes should be an automatic disqualification for world bests. its getting to the point these days when things like this are popping up far too often to be either fair or realistic. we need to stop losing our minds about people claiming 1 second solves with
2:04 probably the only xcross I could make without messing it up
I have tried smartcubes before and I don't think they should count because I have gotten some stupid scrambles. I count my pb as 5.42 but if smartcubes counted I would've beaten the world record. That doesn't seem right to me.
The fact that all these were smart cube scrambles tells it all
I don't think we can count them and like you told the pickup and stopping times are also not there for smart cube solves so it's (kinda ) not legit
Now that I've been seeing these videos I need to know what the actual world record is
Officially it’s 3.13 by Max Park
@@STUCUBEhow about unofficially, excluding cubestation scrambles? Is it the 2.35 from Luke Garrett or smth else?
I think it’s Yiheng’s 2.13 now but it’s impossible to know if these solves actually happened. I believe both this one and the 2.35 did tho
I mean these scrambles are so good if we were getting them in competition that would be insane do we know that there real idk
1 second I can't even do a t perm in 1 second
Actually there's a scramble that happend in wca competition that's better yiheng Wang's, it happend at Hiroshima 2018 final solve 1:
Scramble:D' B' D F B' U F2 U2 B R2 U2 R2 FD2 R2 L2
Inspection:y
Triple xcross:R' U' R U2 D' L D2 R2 D
Last slot last layer:U' L' U L
With no auf 13 moves solution
There's also 12 moves one that happend in competition but it's lame
Haha that’s insane. Who got the scramble and what were the times?
@@STUCUBE Japanese competitors got it, and nobody got anything from it the best solve was (6.98)
if this is allowed, then my 0,2s WB also counts. (scramble: R U' R, officially scrambled by my sister)
there is SO much more to life
yeaaahhhh i love cross skips and x cross skips and ll skips cause thats very normal
I seriously doubt smartcubes are actually scrambled by robots and its scrambled by a hard boiled egg microwaved
3:00 HAH!
New setup?
Yeah just started using a new angle this month to change things up. Should I keep it?
I don't really care XD
(So whichever you like more :)@@STUCUBE
Leave a like if you were subbed before he hit 1k subs
I only count WCA results.
2:00 Ok Pre-Solved X-Cross is like 1 in multiple million so this isnt real XD
1 in multiple million is entirely within the realm of possibility
I’m starting to hate cubing this year.
I think it’s Insane and I wouldn’t count smart cube solves
Wtf is even chinese cubers, smart cube scrambles aren't legit but that's still crazy 💀
No I don’t think smart cube solves count unless they have a long enough randomly generated scramble and r recorded
we got 6 year olds solving rubiks cubes sub 2
i randomly solved a rubix cube XD im lucky as hell sometimes
I'm back to cubing
The scrambles are nonsense, and if one of these scrambles appear in an official WCA competition with top competitors getting rank 1,2 and 3... all from the same competition with the cross and first pair already done, the hobby is done for. Even a hand scramble would be more random than those 'scrambles'.
First for some reason, I came at 22 seconds
this is a scandal
No way
DAMN you are a gorgeous cuber man! sorry not sorry.
6.66
can i get a ping
No matter how much we think that 3x3 single can't be done any faster, I think that the world record will be sub 1 when someone gets 2 move scramble, but I don't know if that rule of 2 moves is right, because with such a scramble a regular person who is not a speedcuber can also set the world record.
bruh it's a joke :D
Is it just me or are these solves fake
Why you find it so hard to believe that a person who solves the cube in less than 4 seconds in a competition wich is like 20 solves can't do a sub 2 unoficial with in thousands of solves they do weekly.
L B2 D2 B2 R F2 L U2 L B2 U F2 D F2 R B' U2 R U' this is the best scramble I’ve ever gotten I got it on cs timer
That’s insane….
Hold with yellow top red front
D R F R U’ L2 // xxcross
y’ R’ F R F’ R U’ R’ // 3rd pair
U2 F’ L F L2 U L // OLS
N perm 😞
@@STUCUBEI can’t remember what i did but I got sune into a U perm
Yellow top orange front
D L B L U’ R2 Cross
3rd pair: U rotate right L’ U2 L U L’ U’ L
Forth pair: U’ F’ U’ F U’ R U R’
Sune
U perm
Found the solution I used
@@OneHandedIsCool you don't get sune. You get some other oll which I don't know
@@twgs60weird I got sune maybe me or u miscrambled idk