There are currently two RUclips channels in my bad books; The Missenden Flyer & 44Teeth. I watched their videos on the various Ducati V4 machines, and I suddenly found that my bank balance had reduced by £20,000. Although the silver lining is that I am taking delivery of a Panigale V4 this Friday.
@@maxflight777 I'm replacing my Ducati Monster S2R. I genuinely love the Monster, and will probably get another in the future, but wanted another superbike purely as I enjoy them more as a weekend toy. My 2019 CBR1000RR Fireblade is now a full track bike and not road legal. Running costs are higher on superbikes of course, especially on something like a Panigale V4, but to be honest if low running costs and fuel economy etc. are top of your priority list then a bike like the V4 probably isn't suitable for you (if it's your only bike anyway).
The constant rubbishing of Ducati on the 44 Teeth channel is what made me unsubscribe along with the dull presenters. I haven't watched it for ages - has it improved any?
Thanks for keeping the manufacturers honest on the fuel gauge issue! It's also a pet peeve if mine and honestly can be the difference of a lost sale. I bought my 21 S1000RR due to cruise control, heated grips, and fuel gauge! Every bike has insane power for me it comes down to all the DETAILS. This is coming from a street rider not using it to do under 1000kms only on a track (nothing wrong with that )
As a Ducati owner (a Ducati with a fuel gauge) YOU ARE BETTER OFF WITHOUT IT! Ducati still hasn't learned how to make a sender that doesn't fail. There are pages of fuel sender failure messages on the SS and Multistrada lists.
Hey Missenden Flyer, I'm like Tom Dolby here...3 years ago a bought a Street Triple RS on the back of your review. Now i've just upgraded to a stealth V4S, after watching this. Please slow down on the good reviews, its costing me a pretty penny!!(plus, you should get some kind of commission)
6:33 I was warned at the dealership that you have to be completely off the throttle for the auto blipper... and on the few occasions that I've downshifted at part throttle without thinking, I got the impression no blipping was occurring and the shift sounded ugly. Seems a shame, would be nice to use it to drop two or three gears and then take off.
It's got better heat management due to rear cylinder cut, Andy, from what I could gather. Reviewers in California said it ran cooler than the tuono. Which is killer!
Anupam, supposedly the Panigale also has the rear cylinder cut out.....but it is still a heat furnace in our Cali warm weather! My theory is that the open bodywork allows better heat exchange to the atmosphere on the Street Fighter.
Hi Andy, Great review as usual. I’ve gotta comment on how useful your reviews are coming from a road rider point of view, that is what 99.9% of riders want to hear 👍. Do you think that the Streetfighter may run a bit cooler than the Panigale, seeing that there’s no fairing channeling hot air thru the engine and then combining with the radiated exhaust heat? You’re making it very difficult for me to not go and visit my local dealer and throw my money on the table 😂. Eagerly awaiting your comparison video 👍🎥. Cheers from 🇦🇺
@@TheMissendenFlyer It's measuring liquid content in a container what they really mean is the budget didn't allow for the engineering solution to provide it, all the talk of tank shape etc is bizarre it's hardly an impossible task that no one could overcome, you wouldn't accept the cheapest car without a fuel quantity indicator to make excuses for motorcycles is making excuses for lazy engineering.
It’s really not a problem, nice to have yes... most riders have never had a fuel gauge and using mileage and the fuel light works well... but the issue some are making, I would guess they would never be in this market and just love to gripe.
Fantastic Vid as always. And exactly how I would describe mine. Lack of fuel gauge is just one of those minor details . Same on my R1M !! Don't forget the Smile factor. I ride it with a big smile on my face an laughing out loud under my helmet !!
The best looking super naked out there in my humble opinion. Certainly not the best value for money but tempting if you can afford it. Think the V4 Multistrada is going to be a more practical road bike with not much less performance.
@@TheMissendenFlyer Range, luggage, passenger comfort, lower service costs due to the Multi using springs to close the valves (shock horror!!) If I had a GS in the garage as well then I would still have the Streetfighter.😉
A really good honest commentary of a great bike...... Nice vid Andy and unlike Tom Dolby... I will stick with my BMW's!!!! I do have a Ducati ... but it remains off road as I find it uncomfortable to ride since the accident.... but do love its looks.... So... Great Video and insight... Great Job dude
Nice review, I imagine that the bike is cooler because without fairings the airflow around the engine and exhaust is much higher, agree with what you have said about the looks, the panigale is stunning!
Thanks Andy for the compressive coverage of the Sreetfighter. With my Warrior being christened Bumblebee ( Transformer one ) I’d love to be able to fit the Ducati headlights on my bike. This would totally set it off brilliantly. Unfortunately we can’t attach pictures to our comments so you’d know what I mean. Great job again from Down Under😎😎🐝
Superb, you mentioned the tank range from full to empty, thank you. I won’t be buying a Street fighter V4 with that range, and I couldn’t afford it either 😂😂.
Great wrap up on the SF, nice insights. These will help me a lot as I ponder what's next for myself personally. I will also look forward to the comparison with the KTM, as that's another one that I have on my radar. You hit most of what I have observed with my V4S which is quite similar to the SF I believe. ONE Thing that I have come to really appreciate that you did not mention is the auto cancelling turn signals. I do appreciate this feature quite a bit, funny small thing, but very handy for us forgetful types. The lack of a gas gauge baffles me, Ducati are so good with the electronics implementation and the attendant software. They could (in my opinion) with just a couple of sensors and some algorithmic legerdemain work out a gas consumption/gauge handily. I understand why a mechanical float type would be too compromised....but come on this is the 21st century Ducati! A last observation is that I totally agree with you on the shifter with the Ducati. I have an Aprilia Tuono with auto blip, quick shifter, and the Ducati implementation is much smoother in my opinion. So Ducati have nailed the electronics quite well on that feature. Ride safe.
I keep being tempted by these mega nakeds, but then I really enjoy riding slower bikes quick, that quick bikes relatively slow! The Ducati is very lovely though.
Having ridden for 10 years, taking a break due to family, money etc and coming back to bikes in 2020. Is it just me or have all new bikes gone up significantly in price?! I am sure in 2007 my R6 was about 7 or 8 grand. Even with inflation the costs of bikes now seems insane!
Totally agree with you Andy with 2 exceptions, perhaps 1.5🤓 another negative for me is no cruise control as I’ve said before. The other is the looks I think it’s great, perhaps, well you are right it’s not as good looking as the Panagali. But my back and wrists just couldn’t take the pain . Glad you like it, as for the super duke nah! I can’t wait to get my SF past the running in period and ride in some warm sunny weather. Another great review🍻.
You should be able to get the bike into neutral without a problem at that price. I have had 3 Ducatis in the past and they all had some niggles except for the Sport Classic which was a really good one. I had a beautiful ST-3 and the tailpipe fell off in the country and the dealer had to come and get me. Another time the engine wouldn't shut off. Yes, they really are beautiful and fun to ride but Ducati needs to get it together with the small details. My Monster was always difficult to get into neutral until it warmed up.....Sal : )
Are you sure this bike has a “Je ne sai pas quoi” about it? I’m not so sure. I think it should that be a “Non so cosa.” It even sounds better. This is a great review of a highly aspirational piece of kit.
Good to hear the seat is more comfortable. This is my biggest issue with spending $ on one. They are SO uncomfortable. The reason they only go 100KM to a tank of gas, is that you NEED to get off that seat every 100KM. Or you will become numb in the nethers.
We were lucky enough to test the Streetfighter and the Panigale back to back (shootout to Ducati Coventry for that) and I would echo a lot of this. The Panigale was a weapon above 60mph very fast bike especially on a road but I really enjoyed the Streetfighter it just fell into the corners like an old friend, weirdly I do want to get another bike in a year or 2 and I'm thinking of this or the RSV4, spent many years as a Honda fanboy actually, so maybe a midlife crisis now choosing those two.
Nice review! I rode it this summer, had no troubles with the gearbox finding neutral, but the qs had often problems with higher gear under 40-75% load (quick corners). I read somewhere that they sorted this out, could you confirm if the changed something? My best 2 bikes this year were the Street Triple RS and Streetfighter V4S :)
It certainly is when you see it for real but the looks of this one certainly split opinion, I didn't like it at first....but it's definately grown on me....
5:39 The looks are let down by all those cables & hydraulic hoses on the right side of engine. A dirt trap & damn awkward to clean! They’re hidden by the fairing on a Panigale but Ducati should have found an elegant way to tidy them up on the Streetfighter.
Yes I do agree with that - I guess that's what you get when you "convert" a sports bike to a naked...unlike say the new Speed triple or the KTM SDR which started life as naked bikes....
Enjoyed that Andy. Totally agree about the styling, I was a bit disappointed, just doesn’t do it for me plus those winglets look piggin expensive! I once bought a bike off a geezer that’d just damaged his 998 fairing and needed to sell his 2nd bike to afford a replacement fairing. Eeek! If I was in the market for a big naked, I’d be waiting for the new Speed Triple which looks to be a magnificent road option. All the best!
@@TheMissendenFlyer It will be nice to see a review of the new Multi that I can trust 100%... all other reviews I've seen so far are so gushing and overly positive that I'm left doubting the objectiveness of the review.
You mention in one vid the change in exhaust note in 4th at 31mph and in this that the engine runs cooler than the Panigale. By any chance does this engine turn off the rear 2 cylinders in certain low load conditions?
Hi Andy Thanks for all your videos. Look forward to them each week. I just put a holding deposit down on a Streetfighter V4S, doesn’t arrive in country until September and need to test ride one soon. I put myself in your general area of age and expertise (probably slightly less in skill). The SF has power but if setup right until you get used to it, is it a bike that will be too much for you and I so to speak. I’m no tack day regular or anything. Weekends only around the state here in Queensland Australia. Just wondering if I am buying too much bike even though it has rider aids and can be tweaked to help save my life? My other alternative was still 150Hp so what difference does 200HP make :-) I hope I can safely grow into it.
Now Andy, having declared your undying love for the V4 would you consider after riding it of course changing the GS for a V4 Multistrada? I'm certainly considering it!
Here's a question for you sir. Given the choice between the Duke and your Street Triple which would you rather own? As a previous ST owner I'd still choose the Trumpet..... value for money and smiles per mile with adequate performance you can exploit on uk roads think it's a bit of a no brainer. Can understand the allure of the red missile [ have owned a Ducati too] but for me personally a little too much and would be afraid to leave 20 grands worth of machine parked anywhere unattended. Realize am not comparing like for like but, would be interested in your thoughts.
Well if money was no object I'd have the Streetfighter over a Street Triple any day of the week.....amazing machine....but from a straightforward value for money point of view comparing the ST to the SF - the Trumpet wins.
OMG all these comments on the lack of a fuel gauge, I’ve never owned a bike with a fuel gauge and the only time I ran out of fuel was in a car! These bikes have great reviews and one of my favourite other Vloggers (Cali Moto TV) has one but I just don’t get why a comfortable naked bike needs 200 odd horse power? In spite of my advancing years if I wanted a V4 Ducati I’d put up with the backache and get a Panigale 🇬🇧🏍
I've always found that heat from the underseat exhausts on a Ducati is only a problem if you dawdle about and ride them sloooooooowly. If you ride them like they're meant to be ridden (i.e. fast) then heat isn't a problem, as you leave it all behind. Nudge nudge, wink wink.
Well there may well be something in that! Sadly you still have to stop at traffic lights and so on and that's when I find you notice it most on my Panigale....not an issue on this bike though as I say....
Excellent variety on the review calendar. Dumb question, does that steering fork dampener actually make a significant difference? Maybe the question is, what does it do? If so, worth the cost? Thanks as ever. 👍🏼 😎 🇺🇸 🌎
Couple points that I would like to add since I've been living with my SF V4S 2021 Stealth. 1. The quickshifter is not good at all in comparison to Aprilia and BMW. It have fail me already several times finding false neutral at high speed and please do not comment that is because I'm not pushing hard or long enough. Because on my Aprilia or or the BMW this has never happened. 2. The bike have several build quality issues at least the 2021 received in US. They are very sensitive to corrosion spots on the aluminum part of the engine. 3. I have got the service light to turn on 3 times already for no reason. 4. The bike some times gasp for air so replace the air filter again this is for the 2021 so I don't know if Euro 5 Make have something to do. 5. Some of the bikes have a water pump problem where it leaks oil. 6. The throttle response when you decelerate it transfer weight ver harshly making handling on roads and turns a bit twitchy 7. If you are over 200 pounds of weight you need to change the front springs suspension. 8. Gas it does drink it a lot :) but there are ways to compensate for that. 9. The bike is expensive so I would not expect any of the issues listed above. This my honest unbias review as I paid for the bike full price so as owner I would not expect any of the issues below also I have reached out to the dealer but they have not being able to help with the QS misses I will reach out about the service light.
Thanks for the real world feedback - sorry to hear of your issues. Still a great bike though correct??? ....or have these taken the shine off it for you?
@@TheMissendenFlyer Let me star saying that I truly like your videos and thanks for the content that you bring please keep going :) . To be honest for the prize that I paid I was expecting a flawless bike for me the biggest issue is the QS as is something that endanger my life so for now I’m not trusting it. When the bike works is an amazing motorcycle and it does put a huge smile on my face. I’m bringing it to the dealer for them to review with Ducati and determine next steps if the QS keep failing like that I probably switch the bike for a new Tuono. I do want the motorcycle to work as I really like how it looks and how the engine behave. I know the QS issue had happened to other owners but it does not seem to happen to everybody I was the h lucky one :(.
@TheMissendenFlyer Would you trade your 899 in for a base v4 streetfighter? Because that's the dilemma I have at the moment. Thoughts? (wouldn't be the V4s because 35% tax in hkg means it's 29k pounds for one and that's a bit ridiculous)
Regarding the cost of it, If budget allowed i'd have this in my garage keeping my Panigale company today! I prefer to own my bikes using the somewhat old fashioned method of saving up to buy what i want. It's my opinion that the PCP style scheme is what's driving up the price of bikes for outright purchase. That may well be an outdated opinion i know but as i'm 50 now that's where it comes from so i consider it valid. I wonder if Ducati would sell more if they kept the prices down but then i suppose it would no longer be an aspirational bike manufacturer. Just my two penneth.
I couldn't agree more Darren - I too am "old school" and believe in saving up before you buy something - I know PCP works for many - but I like to own rather than rent my bikes!
Think it's not so warm under the seat because the rear cylinders go off at low revs or ticking over whilst stopped so as to be bit more comfortable in traffic,,,, from Northern Ireland great video,,, check that out see if it is a fact or not 🤔🤔🤔🤔
Great review. I would say Streetfighters are not supposed to "look pretty" haha. Brilliant bike but £20k is a lot of money for it, wow. Still a nice bike though.
20k for a work of art (which it undoubtedly is), seems reasonable. But if you want a motorcycle to actually ride, you can do better with that kind of money.
Love it, I prefer it to the panagale . I think the panagale looks like a normal faired bike...no offence. But I remember old kawasaki Zs, and the naked look wasn't naked, they were just bikes, and faired bikes were race bikes. So many categories these days. But I digress, the lesson learned to me is beautiful, to expensive, unreliable, but yes I'd have one if I had enough money to lose in bills, depreciation and unreliability just to look cool. Because lets face it, there's other nakeds that are just as good....maybe just not as cool.
Probably. I think TMF could do a lot worse than try the cafe racer version of the scrambler, it's head and shoulders above the other variants and a super little package for country summer roads.
The only thing I cant really stand with the new Ducatis is the rear wheel being so far removed from the "bike". It looks like a cruiser/custom and not a mean modern bike. I know why it is so but it still looks a bit off to me, I want it to look compact and mean not like a custom with the rear wheel 2feet from the bike.
@@maxflight777 I would want that. :P A street bike does not need to be stable at 250+ kph. I prefer nimble bikes at speeds that are legal. But anyway, they could do somethign about the design ie the style/lines of the bike so that the rear wheel does not look so far away from the bike like it was a cruiser/custom. I do the insanely fast riding to the track not the street and there no naked bike is enough :P
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I think you give the most comprehensive motorcycle reviews out there.
Thank you
There are currently two RUclips channels in my bad books; The Missenden Flyer & 44Teeth. I watched their videos on the various Ducati V4 machines, and I suddenly found that my bank balance had reduced by £20,000.
Although the silver lining is that I am taking delivery of a Panigale V4 this Friday.
@@maxflight777 I just came from V4 to a V2 because the sound is better and it's no way near as thirsty.
@@maxflight777 I'm replacing my Ducati Monster S2R. I genuinely love the Monster, and will probably get another in the future, but wanted another superbike purely as I enjoy them more as a weekend toy. My 2019 CBR1000RR Fireblade is now a full track bike and not road legal.
Running costs are higher on superbikes of course, especially on something like a Panigale V4, but to be honest if low running costs and fuel economy etc. are top of your priority list then a bike like the V4 probably isn't suitable for you (if it's your only bike anyway).
The constant rubbishing of Ducati on the 44 Teeth channel is what made me unsubscribe along with the dull presenters. I haven't watched it for ages - has it improved any?
@@dazthephot improved ??? Not at all. They now do a stupid news program wearing wigs and looking complete idiots
Hey Tom congratulations on the new V4 - what a machine!!
Awaiting review of the Multistrada 😎
Hopefully in the summer!
Gotta say, this Brit is growing on me. Very honest, straightforward, and engaging. Also gave a great review of the Streetfighter V2.
Glad to hear that! Thanks for watching.
Thanks for keeping the manufacturers honest on the fuel gauge issue! It's also a pet peeve if mine and honestly can be the difference of a lost sale. I bought my 21 S1000RR due to cruise control, heated grips, and fuel gauge! Every bike has insane power for me it comes down to all the DETAILS. This is coming from a street rider not using it to do under 1000kms only on a track (nothing wrong with that )
Glad to help!
Personally, I would buy that bike any day of the week over the Panigale. The bike also wins in the looks department for me too.
Fair enough - I think I probably would too (if I didn't already have the Pani).....
I have the 2021 V4S and you can change the TFT to 'day', 'night', or 'auto' ... love your video as always!
If I had the money I would buy one right now, I love it so much, everytime i see and hear one on the road my heart bursts
Crikey!
@@TheMissendenFlyer 😂😂😂😂
You provide better content that my telly - well done!!
Thank you!
As a Ducati owner (a Ducati with a fuel gauge) YOU ARE BETTER OFF WITHOUT IT! Ducati still hasn't learned how to make a sender that doesn't fail. There are pages of fuel sender failure messages on the SS and Multistrada lists.
Nice review. Very thorough & balanced. This is just the sort of vid you want if you're seriously considering getting one as it's not cheap.
I appreciate that - that was my intention - cheers RR!
Blue sky, warm looking weather and dry roads top it off with a great looking bike cant wait for summer.
You and me both!
Hey Missenden Flyer, I'm like Tom Dolby here...3 years ago a bought a Street Triple RS on the back of your review. Now i've just upgraded to a stealth V4S, after watching this. Please slow down on the good reviews, its costing me a pretty penny!!(plus, you should get some kind of commission)
I wish!!!
Me too please review the multistrada. Maybe against the GS
Hopefully I'll be able to get one in the summer....
That’s more than i paid for my house in 1980 !! What a machine cheers Andy 👍🏍
Tell me about it!!
I just checked, £20,000 iin 1980 would be just over £86,000 today.. a reminder why I can't afford a house 😆
Another great and balanced review Mr TMF! Thanks.
My pleasure Paul!
6:33 I was warned at the dealership that you have to be completely off the throttle for the auto blipper... and on the few occasions that I've downshifted at part throttle without thinking, I got the impression no blipping was occurring and the shift sounded ugly. Seems a shame, would be nice to use it to drop two or three gears and then take off.
It's got better heat management due to rear cylinder cut, Andy, from what I could gather. Reviewers in California said it ran cooler than the tuono. Which is killer!
Anupam, supposedly the Panigale also has the rear cylinder cut out.....but it is still a heat furnace in our Cali warm weather! My theory is that the open bodywork allows better heat exchange to the atmosphere on the Street Fighter.
@@GareyCooperdude that too! I didn't know your model year had the rear cyl cut out? I was under the impression they did it for the 2020 refresh!
Hi Andy,
Great review as usual. I’ve gotta comment on how useful your reviews are coming from a road rider point of view, that is what 99.9% of riders want to hear 👍.
Do you think that the Streetfighter may run a bit cooler than the Panigale, seeing that there’s no fairing channeling hot air thru the engine and then combining with the radiated exhaust heat?
You’re making it very difficult for me to not go and visit my local dealer and throw my money on the table 😂.
Eagerly awaiting your comparison video 👍🎥.
Cheers from 🇦🇺
Yes you may be right Peter, definitely not so much of an issue on this one as the Pani....and thanks for the kind comments!
No technical reason why they couldn't have provided a fuel gauge, not good enough on a 20k motorcycle with a tiny tank.
Its the shape of the tank, they just can't do it.
That's what I was told Bruce, but I don't really buy it to be honest!
@@TheMissendenFlyer It's measuring liquid content in a container what they really mean is the budget didn't allow for the engineering solution to provide it, all the talk of tank shape etc is bizarre it's hardly an impossible task that no one could overcome, you wouldn't accept the cheapest car without a fuel quantity indicator to make excuses for motorcycles is making excuses for lazy engineering.
@@-DC- I just don’t get how some motorcycles don’t put a fuel gauge on their bikes! Especially the premium and thirsty ones!
It’s really not a problem, nice to have yes... most riders have never had a fuel gauge and using mileage and the fuel light works well... but the issue some are making, I would guess they would never be in this market and just love to gripe.
Brilliant. Refreshing video of a fabulous machine. Thanks.
Glad you enjoyed it Anthony!
Fantastic Vid as always. And exactly how I would describe mine. Lack of fuel gauge is just one of those minor details . Same on my R1M !! Don't forget the Smile factor. I ride it with a big smile on my face an laughing out loud under my helmet !!
Yes Ian I can understand why you do exactly that! Great bike eh?
@@TheMissendenFlyer It’s a joy !!
The exhaust heat shield under the seat reminds me of curls of black pudding on a butcher's counter. Yes, I live in the North.
Ekie thump!
Thank you very much! Love your channel Morten!!!!
My pleasure Morten - thanks for watching and stopping by....!
Great videos - love my monster but seriously thinking of the Streetfighter now
You and me both!
Love the jacket Andy 😎👍
Thank you, it’s nice and warm too - I wear it during the day off the bike....
Great insight, lovely bike. Looking forward to the v sdr.
...coming next Monday, stay tuned!
Great review - looking forward to hearing your take on the new monster and Speed Triple.
Me too! Thanks for watching....
Be interesting to have you ride the latest 2021, (edit) Aprilia Tuono V4 RR ..... as a comparison to this bike.
I would love to see a comparison against the Aprilia Tuono Factory. The RR would compare against the base Streetfighter.
I can see one of these heading towards The Missenden Flyer garage in the not too distant future... 👍 Stunning Bike!
Now that would be nice Graham....
The best looking super naked out there in my humble opinion. Certainly not the best value for money but tempting if you can afford it. Think the V4 Multistrada is going to be a more practical road bike with not much less performance.
In what way do you think the MTS would be more practical Richard?
@@TheMissendenFlyer Range, luggage, passenger comfort, lower service costs due to the Multi using springs to close the valves (shock horror!!)
If I had a GS in the garage as well then I would still have the Streetfighter.😉
Great video - you can see why I changed my TFC Rocket for a SF V4S !
A really good honest commentary of a great bike...... Nice vid Andy and unlike Tom Dolby... I will stick with my BMW's!!!! I do have a Ducati ... but it remains off road as I find it uncomfortable to ride since the accident.... but do love its looks.... So... Great Video and insight... Great Job dude
Hi Andy
As ever thanks for an entertaining insightful review.
I would welcome a comparison with the 2021 Tuono V4 Factory please.
Nice review, I imagine that the bike is cooler because without fairings the airflow around the engine and exhaust is much higher, agree with what you have said about the looks, the panigale is stunning!
Great Andy, enjoyed that.
Good to hear
Thanks Andy for the compressive coverage of the Sreetfighter. With my Warrior being christened Bumblebee ( Transformer one ) I’d love to be able to fit the Ducati headlights on my bike. This would totally set it off brilliantly. Unfortunately we can’t attach pictures to our comments so you’d know what I mean. Great job again from Down Under😎😎🐝
Thank you Bob - appreciated!
Superb, you mentioned the tank range from full to empty, thank you. I won’t be buying a Street fighter V4 with that range, and I couldn’t afford it either 😂😂.
Which came first, the range or the cash....?
Riding in the UK with sub-zero conditions I would have thought more heat from the exhaust would be better.
I would imagine here in the UK most people would save their StreetFighters for warm sunny days....but I take your point!
Great wrap up on the SF, nice insights. These will help me a lot as I ponder what's next for myself personally. I will also look forward to the comparison with the KTM, as that's another one that I have on my radar.
You hit most of what I have observed with my V4S which is quite similar to the SF I believe. ONE Thing that I have come to really appreciate that you did not mention is the auto cancelling turn signals. I do appreciate this feature quite a bit, funny small thing, but very handy for us forgetful types.
The lack of a gas gauge baffles me, Ducati are so good with the electronics implementation and the attendant software. They could (in my opinion) with just a couple of sensors and some algorithmic legerdemain work out a gas consumption/gauge handily. I understand why a mechanical float type would be too compromised....but come on this is the 21st century Ducati!
A last observation is that I totally agree with you on the shifter with the Ducati. I have an Aprilia Tuono with auto blip, quick shifter, and the Ducati implementation is much smoother in my opinion. So Ducati have nailed the electronics quite well on that feature.
Ride safe.
So looking forward to the comparison with the SDR.
Hope its an in depth half hour of all things super naked!
It sure is! Coming up next Monday.....
Very very nice that Andy and if I had a spare 20k to splash it might just be on my radar.
I keep being tempted by these mega nakeds, but then I really enjoy riding slower bikes quick, that quick bikes relatively slow! The Ducati is very lovely though.
I'd like to see a review of both the new Speed Triple RS and the new Monster... looks like TMF is going to have a busy summer!
I hope so!
Having ridden for 10 years, taking a break due to family, money etc and coming back to bikes in 2020. Is it just me or have all new bikes gone up significantly in price?! I am sure in 2007 my R6 was about 7 or 8 grand. Even with inflation the costs of bikes now seems insane!
Tell me about it Jon!
Colour tft? Where's the colour? Might as well be LCD. Fab vid as always ☺ keep up the fabulous work. We all love it ☺
Thank you Dave - that's very kind of you!
Another good video TMF
Totally agree with you Andy with 2 exceptions, perhaps 1.5🤓 another negative for me is no cruise control as I’ve said before. The other is the looks I think it’s great, perhaps, well you are right it’s not as good looking as the Panagali. But my back and wrists just couldn’t take the pain . Glad you like it, as for the super duke nah! I can’t wait to get my SF past the running in period and ride in some warm sunny weather. Another great review🍻.
Yes cruise control would be nice I agree Tony....lovely bike you have though, congratulations (and roll on warmer weather and reduced lock downs!)
@@TheMissendenFlyer I’m with you on that one 👍
I am very tempted by this bike.
Me too....
Thanks for showing this lovely Motorcycle. I've ofter wondered what a "Duke" is like to ride. :>)
You should be able to get the bike into neutral without a problem at that price. I have had 3 Ducatis in the past and they all had some niggles except for the Sport Classic which was a really good one. I had a beautiful ST-3 and the tailpipe fell off in the country and the dealer had to come and get me. Another time the engine wouldn't shut off. Yes, they really are beautiful and fun to ride but Ducati needs to get it together with the small details. My Monster was always difficult to get into neutral until it warmed up.....Sal : )
I look forward to all of your reviews, best out there, thank you! I’m not sure if I’m in love with the looks of this bike, especially for $20k.
Yes the looks do split opinions - I hated it when I first saw it, since I've ridden it and seen it in the flesh I now love it!
@@TheMissendenFlyer I note that many motorcycles don’t photograph well….much better to reserve judgement until you can see them in person.
Waiting for the side by side comparisons ktm 1290 vs ducati streetfighter
Coming next Monday - stay tuned!
Are you sure this bike has a “Je ne sai pas quoi” about it? I’m not so sure. I think it should that be a “Non so cosa.” It even sounds better. This is a great review of a highly aspirational piece of kit.
Cheers Trevor - have you tried one of these? If you do you'll see it has that something special about it as most Ducati's do.....
Good to hear the seat is more comfortable. This is my biggest issue with spending $ on one. They are SO uncomfortable. The reason they only go 100KM to a tank of gas, is that you NEED to get off that seat every 100KM. Or you will become numb in the nethers.
We were lucky enough to test the Streetfighter and the Panigale back to back (shootout to Ducati Coventry for that) and I would echo a lot of this. The Panigale was a weapon above 60mph very fast bike especially on a road but I really enjoyed the Streetfighter it just fell into the corners like an old friend, weirdly I do want to get another bike in a year or 2 and I'm thinking of this or the RSV4, spent many years as a Honda fanboy actually, so maybe a midlife crisis now choosing those two.
It’s a good problem to have!
keep up good work, great video! wold you have time to test the Z900RS from kawasaki?
Yes I would - if they would lend one to me!
@@TheMissendenFlyer i hope that ducati streetfighter will have fuel gauge on the 2022 model. it will be released august/september 2021
Nice review! I rode it this summer, had no troubles with the gearbox finding neutral, but the qs had often problems with higher gear under 40-75% load (quick corners). I read somewhere that they sorted this out, could you confirm if the changed something?
My best 2 bikes this year were the Street Triple RS and Streetfighter V4S :)
Great looking bike
It certainly is when you see it for real but the looks of this one certainly split opinion, I didn't like it at first....but it's definately grown on me....
5:39 The looks are let down by all those cables & hydraulic hoses on the right side of engine. A dirt trap & damn awkward to clean! They’re hidden by the fairing on a Panigale but Ducati should have found an elegant way to tidy them up on the Streetfighter.
Yes I do agree with that - I guess that's what you get when you "convert" a sports bike to a naked...unlike say the new Speed triple or the KTM SDR which started life as naked bikes....
Enjoyed that Andy. Totally agree about the styling, I was a bit disappointed, just doesn’t do it for me plus those winglets look piggin expensive! I once bought a bike off a geezer that’d just damaged his 998 fairing and needed to sell his 2nd bike to afford a replacement fairing. Eeek! If I was in the market for a big naked, I’d be waiting for the new Speed Triple which looks to be a magnificent road option. All the best!
Cheers Steve - and yes looking forward to trying the big new Trumpet when it's available.....
@@TheMissendenFlyer and we’re still waiting for your 10,000 mile review of the Triumph Trekker! 😉😂
Will be interesting to see what you think of the new Ducati V4 Multistrada with the un Ducati valve system! 😲
Yes I would like a crack on that I must admit - maybe in the summer!
@@TheMissendenFlyer It will be nice to see a review of the new Multi that I can trust 100%... all other reviews I've seen so far are so gushing and overly positive that I'm left doubting the objectiveness of the review.
You mention in one vid the change in exhaust note in 4th at 31mph and in this that the engine runs cooler than the Panigale. By any chance does this engine turn off the rear 2 cylinders in certain low load conditions?
Possible I guess....
Great looking and sounding machine! Love the fact that it's comfy as well... sadly in my country, it costs £39,435 💔
Yikes!
What experience do you guys have on fuel consumption?
Thirsty!
you make me wanna buy one
Does the v4 vibrate as much as the v2 ??
No - not nearly as much...
@@TheMissendenFlyer thank you
I'd love to see a review on the Ducati Supersport S. Wanting to invest but need TMF seal of approval!
I wasn't a huge fan of the supersport when I last rode it so not top of my list to try an updated newer one......
Hi Andy
Thanks for all your videos. Look forward to them each week.
I just put a holding deposit down on a Streetfighter V4S, doesn’t arrive in country until September and need to test ride one soon. I put myself in your general area of age and expertise (probably slightly less in skill). The SF has power but if setup right until you get used to it, is it a bike that will be too much for you and I so to speak. I’m no tack day regular or anything. Weekends only around the state here in Queensland Australia. Just wondering if I am buying too much bike even though it has rider aids and can be tweaked to help save my life? My other alternative was still 150Hp so what difference does 200HP make :-) I hope I can safely grow into it.
You won't be dissappointed, it is an amazing machine. I'm looking forward to trying the V2 soon too...
I found a video last night posted from a guy in my exact position which also helped tell me I’m on an ok path. Can’t wait for it now.
Hi TMF, what's the name of that jacket you're wearing? Great content as always
It's my Blauer winter pull >> www.sportsbikeshop.co.uk/motorcycle_parts/content_prod/459146/#/23636,0,0
Thank you.
You're welcome Bruce - always good to hear from you!
£20k and no fuel gauge? In 2021 that's unacceptable on a £5 bike.
Is this the UK or southern France ? 🌞
The UK in early autumn....seems a long time ago as I look out on falling snow!!
Are you only able to get these long termers because you review them? I’d love to test one for more than the 45 minutes most dealers give you
Yes I imaginbe that's the reason!
@@TheMissendenFlyer Thought as much. Thanks for the reply though 👍
Can you find Neutral, any missing gears, rideable hot? Handling compared to a Street Triple? I am asking because it's a dream-bike!
Better all round.....
I prefer the looks of the old streetfighter 1098 with the trellis frame.
Now Andy, having declared your undying love for the V4 would you consider after riding it of course changing the GS for a V4 Multistrada? I'm certainly considering it!
I'll have to ride one first to find out!
That is one brilliant bike. But no fuel gauge seems crazy to me. We can go to the moon, but we can't fit a fuel gauge to a motorcycle?
Tell me about it!
If you ever want a relative noob to jump on your podcast with you give me a holler. 😅
Here's a question for you sir. Given the choice between the Duke and your Street Triple which would you rather own? As a previous ST owner I'd still choose the Trumpet..... value for money and smiles per mile with adequate performance you can exploit on uk roads think it's a bit of a no brainer. Can understand the allure of the red missile [ have owned a Ducati too] but for me personally a little too much and would be afraid to leave 20 grands worth of machine parked anywhere unattended. Realize am not comparing like for like but, would be interested in your thoughts.
Well if money was no object I'd have the Streetfighter over a Street Triple any day of the week.....amazing machine....but from a straightforward value for money point of view comparing the ST to the SF - the Trumpet wins.
OMG all these comments on the lack of a fuel gauge, I’ve never owned a bike with a fuel gauge and the only time I ran out of fuel was in a car! These bikes have great reviews and one of my favourite other Vloggers (Cali Moto TV) has one but I just don’t get why a comfortable naked bike needs 200 odd horse power? In spite of my advancing years if I wanted a V4 Ducati I’d put up with the backache and get a Panigale 🇬🇧🏍
Fair do's! (no fuel gauge there either IIRC)
I've always found that heat from the underseat exhausts on a Ducati is only a problem if you dawdle about and ride them sloooooooowly. If you ride them like they're meant to be ridden (i.e. fast) then heat isn't a problem, as you leave it all behind. Nudge nudge, wink wink.
Well there may well be something in that! Sadly you still have to stop at traffic lights and so on and that's when I find you notice it most on my Panigale....not an issue on this bike though as I say....
Excellent variety on the review calendar. Dumb question, does that steering fork dampener actually make a significant difference? Maybe the question is, what does it do? If so, worth the cost? Thanks as ever. 👍🏼 😎 🇺🇸 🌎
Well given the bikes power I'd rather have it than not - they prevent uncontrollable steering oscillations (or tank slappers to you and me)......
Couple points that I would like to add since I've been living with my SF V4S 2021 Stealth.
1. The quickshifter is not good at all in comparison to Aprilia and BMW. It have fail me already several times finding false neutral at high speed and please do not comment that is because I'm not pushing hard or long enough. Because on my Aprilia or or the BMW this has never happened.
2. The bike have several build quality issues at least the 2021 received in US. They are very sensitive to corrosion spots on the aluminum part of the engine.
3. I have got the service light to turn on 3 times already for no reason.
4. The bike some times gasp for air so replace the air filter again this is for the 2021 so I don't know if Euro 5 Make have something to do.
5. Some of the bikes have a water pump problem where it leaks oil.
6. The throttle response when you decelerate it transfer weight ver harshly making handling on roads and turns a bit twitchy
7. If you are over 200 pounds of weight you need to change the front springs suspension.
8. Gas it does drink it a lot :) but there are ways to compensate for that.
9. The bike is expensive so I would not expect any of the issues listed above.
This my honest unbias review as I paid for the bike full price so as owner I would not expect any of the issues below also I have reached out to the dealer but they have not being able to help with the QS misses I will reach out about the service light.
Thanks for the real world feedback - sorry to hear of your issues. Still a great bike though correct??? ....or have these taken the shine off it for you?
@@TheMissendenFlyer Let me star saying that I truly like your videos and thanks for the content that you bring please keep going :) . To be honest for the prize that I paid I was expecting a flawless bike for me the biggest issue is the QS as is something that endanger my life so for now I’m not trusting it. When the bike works is an amazing motorcycle and it does put a huge smile on my face. I’m bringing it to the dealer for them to review with Ducati and determine next steps if the QS keep failing like that I probably switch the bike for a new Tuono. I do want the motorcycle to work as I really like how it looks and how the engine behave. I know the QS issue had happened to other owners but it does not seem to happen to everybody I was the h lucky one :(.
@TheMissendenFlyer Would you trade your 899 in for a base v4 streetfighter? Because that's the dilemma I have at the moment. Thoughts?
(wouldn't be the V4s because 35% tax in hkg means it's 29k pounds for one and that's a bit ridiculous)
Yes something I've thought about myself -I've not done it yet so I guess there's your answer.....for now
@@TheMissendenFlyer welp I can't wait for the video when you do 👀
It looks like the kind of bike you could start riding ,and realize that you spent the day on it.
Exactly right Bill....
Regarding the cost of it, If budget allowed i'd have this in my garage keeping my Panigale company today! I prefer to own my bikes using the somewhat old fashioned method of saving up to buy what i want. It's my opinion that the PCP style scheme is what's driving up the price of bikes for outright purchase. That may well be an outdated opinion i know but as i'm 50 now that's where it comes from so i consider it valid. I wonder if Ducati would sell more if they kept the prices down but then i suppose it would no longer be an aspirational bike manufacturer. Just my two penneth.
I couldn't agree more Darren - I too am "old school" and believe in saving up before you buy something - I know PCP works for many - but I like to own rather than rent my bikes!
Think it's not so warm under the seat because the rear cylinders go off at low revs or ticking over whilst stopped so as to be bit more comfortable in traffic,,,, from Northern Ireland great video,,, check that out see if it is a fact or not 🤔🤔🤔🤔
Could be!
Great review. I would say Streetfighters are not supposed to "look pretty" haha. Brilliant bike but £20k is a lot of money for it, wow. Still a nice bike though.
Totally agree on all points....
To clean your fence and garage wall just spray it with swimming pool chlorine it will look like new.
And here's me looking at his meter boxes, cos that's what I do for a living.
20k for a work of art (which it undoubtedly is), seems reasonable. But if you want a motorcycle to actually ride, you can do better with that kind of money.
I agree, but I do love a work of art and it would look nice in my garage next to my 899 :0)
Has anybody on RUclips tested the base model. Can't find a test anywhere. How odd.
Do they even sell them??
Well now I want to know which Ducati didn't make you feel good lmao. Spill the beans!
Wasn't so keen on the XDiavel....
Love it, I prefer it to the panagale . I think the panagale looks like a normal faired bike...no offence. But I remember old kawasaki Zs, and the naked look wasn't naked, they were just bikes, and faired bikes were race bikes. So many categories these days. But I digress, the lesson learned to me is beautiful, to expensive, unreliable, but yes I'd have one if I had enough money to lose in bills, depreciation and unreliability just to look cool. Because lets face it, there's other nakeds that are just as good....maybe just not as cool.
Panigale
@@TheMissendenFlyer unknown word in the text, but thanks for correcting me.
That'll be the yellow 800 Scrambler you're on about.
Probably. I think TMF could do a lot worse than try the cafe racer version of the scrambler, it's head and shoulders above the other variants and a super little package for country summer roads.
Just imagine one with gold wheels!!!
A man of culture!
Actually i reckon white powder coated wheels would look good as well....
@@TheMissendenFlyer You could be right but may clash with the forks!!
Hold on, hold on, how can a negative for a bike be that another bike looks better?
My warped logic - made sense to me at the time!!!
£20k for a bike with a thirsty engine, 16ltr tank and no fuel gauge. Hmmm. Sounds like a Sunday posing bike for rich boys 😂
Super Duke has more power and torque until 9500 vs Streetfighter. The Streetfighter is nicer looking as a semi naked.
The only thing I cant really stand with the new Ducatis is the rear wheel being so far removed from the "bike". It looks like a cruiser/custom and not a mean modern bike. I know why it is so but it still looks a bit off to me, I want it to look compact and mean not like a custom with the rear wheel 2feet from the bike.
@@maxflight777 I would want that. :P A street bike does not need to be stable at 250+ kph. I prefer nimble bikes at speeds that are legal. But anyway, they could do somethign about the design ie the style/lines of the bike so that the rear wheel does not look so far away from the bike like it was a cruiser/custom.
I do the insanely fast riding to the track not the street and there no naked bike is enough :P
I actually love the detached rear wheel look (on any bike) - but then I loved the looks of the Honda VFR1200 so clearly I'm no judge of bike beauty!