Fact Checking MKBHD's Fisker Ocean 2.0 Review
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I hope they don't go out of business and they get new management if they fix all bugs this would be a great car.
If I only had no mortgage, and no credit card and no student loan. Then i’d have no debt. One can hope
New management means they need to push out Henrik Fisker himself. I think we all see he rather set fire to it, and he has and doing the one thing he knows how to do right, declare bankruptcy quietly...
To late
I think MKBHD is doing a pretty good and accurate job and he is one of the very few big youtubers not afraid to say things which might upset people
True
I agree about Marquez being honest but make no mistake, negative reviews are good for clicks.
I really appreciate how objective you have been with the vehicle and how others have reviewed it. It really is a great looking and promising vehicle. It's unfortunate that the company was not well managed. I hope your issues get ironed out and you have a good, fun vehicle to drive for years. Again, kudos for the objectivity and well thought out responses to the criticisms of this vehicle - you've got a new subscriber.
I appreciate this very much! Thank you for watching!
You’ve been the best source of influence for me as it relates to Fisker…surprisingly, you’ve even been more reliable than “Fiskerati”. Keep up the great work!
Thanks for your feedback!
Fiskerati got a lot of presents from Fisker (paid trip to Austria, VIP delivery by plane, etc.)... he was not independent reviewer at all
@@victormdp…and then bailed out on Fisker when things went south? Smh
Had couple techs come out to manually update my OS to 2.0 this morning - they were great as was the other tech that came out couple weeks ago to fix the aeroflaps. I have an issue with the fan behind the rearview mirror (ADAS housing) blowing constantly at full speed which 2.0 didn't fix and the tech told me this would be addressed with 3.0 which should be coming during Q2. Sounds like they're still developing further OS updates as others have mentioned although who knows how long this may go on for...
Regarding those damn aeroflaps... the tech replaced those couple weeks ago but ripped off again after about a week. The tech from today said they're redesigning/re-engineering that part but until then they will continue to rip off and there's no point of getting a tech to install a new one as they'll soon fail again.
Thank you for your insights!
I am 3rd party seller in Amazon and Walmart every 100 thousands of new seller will start to sell on thesee platforms and only less then 10% will survive . The reason is not lack of customers or products or even reviews of the products . it is always bad management and not having ability to overcome every day obstacles .
Well said
It’s programmers not delivering.
Thanks for another video Adam. It’s been quite the ride with the Ocean, but we just have to hope for the best and prepare for the worst. Thanks for keeping us up to date with everything.
This is the best strategy. We shall see
Hay Adam I have a sport and received 2.0 over the air it helps but could you tell me how you received more up grades . Should have keep my fifteen year old car now this is my only car in california.
The software will come when they send it to the car, there’s no way to accelerate it unless you can get a hold of a service appointment. I wouldn’t recommend to anyone having this as your only car.
Great review and show !
Thanks for watching!
I got my update manually and the version of 2.0 they had on the FAST tool also had sounds from 3.0. So now when I lock and unlock it plays the new sound immediately followed by the old sound.
It did add a sound for the trunk opening and closing which is nice and the new sounds are significantly better but yeah.
My Key fob does work flawlessly after doing the key fob update. One click lock and unlock regardless if the car is asleep or not and from as far as about 50ft
I’m glad to hear about the key fob
Im switching to kia ev9. Can you do review on that. There batter cooling system is sowmthing i can not understand. I thinks water base cooling system. Do not know what that means
Sure
I deeply hope Fisker can save themselves somehow, and fix whatever atrocious management they have. These cars are so cool, and the Pear was so promising. It has been extremely tempting to buy one, ESPECIALLY with the recent price cuts, but I can't risk all of that money on a car that may very well have no warranty next week and lose all it's value overnight lmao
Hoping is okay. Reality will not be kind
This was a fun reaction video. It's interesting that in both of MKBDHD's videos he actually says that the Ocean's fundamentals "are solid". Too bad that both his headline and real Ocean owner experience eclipse that fact.
Good feedback
Def prefer this response over that Fisker1 guy.
Thanks for watching
Both perspectives are good
Not a fan of Marquez but it seems like Fisker did this to themselves by delivering substandard duds that require you to learn unintuitive, less-than-straightforward procedures just to operate a vehicle. I just want to jump in and enjoy a drive, not operate the Space Shuttle.
Well said
Hello - really enjoy all your hard work keep us informed about the Fisker Ocean. I'm an owner as you. At this point, plan on keeping it until something dramatic happens. As of today, my Extreme, has had significantly less issues than most, still working with a Tech to get 2.0 installed. Asking for a friend, has anyone decided to push for a class action suit against Fisker?
Not that I know of. Are we ready for that?
@@Aslash304 I have a gut feeling that Fisker Inc isn't coming back in any form. I googled what issues Tesla had in the beginning and they were all the same as Fisker Ocean. He had a deal on the table and his ego probably got in the way. If they restructure he has to remove his wife and family members from their positions - you read the comments from the glass web site. There are people out there driving a car they got for free. Currently, I have auto insurance, will they cover my cost in a accident? If so with what? Good forbid if a get a crack in the windshield. We don't have a 10 year warranty with a company in bankruptcy. We are driving a Saturn or Delorian. Maybe we should buy a second Fisker so that we have a car to fix the first car
Marques is this Fisker iteration scapegoat. First A123 Systems, now Marques. Henrik learns nothing, he rises from the dead and he points the finger at a scapegoat: it's the loop.
Right on
I was very interested in the Fisker Ocean, but I finally got the opportunity to see the most honest review, which was done by MKBHD. During the review, a lot of bugs were discovered, including the really silly things like the drive modes. Damn. Before watching MKBHD's review, I saw many reviews about the Fisker Ocean, and nobody mentioned that! Why? It is very important. On paper, having several drive modes sounds good, but in reality, they are really poor. When you buy a car, I understand that not everything can be perfect, but the way the drive modes were engineered shows the real intentions or the approach the car manufacturer took to possibly mislead the new car owners.
Thanks for your feedback
Parking brake needing to be released is a problem. I don’t care what you say. My 2015 car doesn’t have this issue. I’ve never even heard of it before this fisker vehicle. And it would drive me insane if I had to do it every time I needed to move the car a few inches.
International homologation. One of the countries has it as a rule, and every country gets the same one. It is no fun for sure.
“BEEPS AND BOPS ARE REDUCED”
reading that had me cry out laughing. the same sentence could also apply to me gradually figuring out how to make listenable music with my modular synthesizer
Well done. I see what you did there
Side note: what's your thoughts on the Polestar 2?
Polestar is quality but expensive.
Hey Adam, i greatly appreciate your videos and have been following for a few years now. I also want to mention that I agree with your videos 98% of the time. But i received 2.0 over the air a couole of weeks ago, as did many others. The key fob works way better, and I mean way better, I haven't had a single issue, now I understand some peoole may have some issues still but I've seen a lot of people commenting how much the key fob has been improved. And if you leave the Standby Time to 24 hours, you don't experience the boot up screen in the car, this too is a fact. I still want to thank you for your effort when it comes to putting these videos out, especially as quickly as you do 🙏
I also got 2.0 over the air in the last couple weeks. I’d say my key fob is marginally better, though, if it’s better at all.
In the video I explicitly state the key fob has better range. I also received 2.0 over the air. Part 3 yesterday. Which I also explained. You’re also correct, standby doesn’t happen if you set to 24 hours and drive it every day. I described this in the video as well. What part of the video was inaccurate? I’ll post a correction immediately
I found the video to be accurate, as usual. I didn’t know about how one could drive without putting their seatbelt on, so that was new to me but not something I care too much about (so long as it continues to work!). The only difference in my own experience is that the key fob doesn’t really seem any better. I’m thinking of dropping a new battery into it now that I’m on 2.0 in case that helps.
Mad that I had a fully keyless fob that never had to leave my pocket on a 2006 Ford Focus… and Fisker can’t make it work in 2024…
A worthy reason to be mad.
Great video, thank you for doing this!
Thanks for watching!
I got 2.0 update last week and got part 1 one day, then part 2 the next day OTA. I still get the braking error with 2.0.
Your vehicle violently stops after severely vibrating and stopping without you intending to?
I haven’t had that, just the a message about Emergency Braking not available. At least, not yet. I get a new surprise almost every day. Yesterday was it stopped charging at a L1 stand at my office and I didn’t know it until I went to go to an afternoon appointment. It did like a L2 charger later. Love 135kw charging vs 6.5😊
Its tough. Love Fiskers vision. Wish it worked out, but still hoping it works out
Optimistic point of view
I’m a MKBHD die hard fan, now I’m giving you a sub.
I appreciate this very much
Adam i have been following your videos on everything fisker related for almost 2 years now and it hurts to see you so disappointed in the product you’ve been so excited about all this time. It also crushes my soul to hear you say, with certainty, that fisker is dead because I know you’re not just saying it for likes / subs. What a sad story fisker has become
I bought it to review it. This is the reality.
Disappointment is a difference between the expectation and reality. Sad.
@@Aslash304expensive review
I'm glad that is the reason you bought it. I hope they open source the firmware. It shouldn't be too hard to fix the drive mode, or disable the flashing colors.
@@Aslash304What do you think about the fact that Fisker has reduced the price of several models ranging from 10k-14k? If a company is cutting prices by that much to stay afloat that is not a good sign. If they go under, support and maintenance for these is going to be a hassle.
I like the driver screen colors. I think its cool. Not annoying at all to me
I would pay to make it stop
I don't even notice it to be honest.
@@humbertopatch6545teach me how
Masking tape works well.
@@humbertopatch6545agreed, I don’t notice it either. This is a huge nothing burger!
Thanks
Thanks for watching
My FOO did it Over the Air. No issues
Good to hear
Mine as well
Edmunds has 10 Used Fisker Oceans for sale near you, including a 2023 Ocean and a 2023 Ocean ranging in price from $39,895 to $59,997 Mileage ranges from 5 to 5k with many at 1 to 2k. What an interesting gamble!
Interesting and gamble are both correct
Wow - nice job
Thanks for watching
FYI: I’ve owned a ton of recent cars all within the $70-100k mark and all of them have these issues spread out across them and more.
Just the Ocean has more but still not far from some other brands.
Example, I’ve had a few recent cars that I had to do the update via a Flash Drive, annoying yes, still easy though. Post Covid all cars seem to suck. Or they just got too complicated to sort all bugs out and they just ship them and update them over time. Customer suffers but they got the sale at least.
It’s a new game out there
Yes all good points. Sad to see theend of what could have come to
Agree
Are you saying 2.0 is now reliably working OTA?
I’m saying it’s available over the air. I got part 3 two days ago OTA. To say Fisker is doing anything reliably is a risk.
The thing is, software can be updated regularly, but a shitty built car will be worse for you.
Fisker just needs time, they are only two years in the market and already have delivered EVs.
The market for EVs is also severely down, so it's something to consider.
Nothing on the rear passenger side works properly. The window switch wasn’t plugged in. The map light just turns on randomly. My son is asleep in the back and the map light comes on. How does time fix this?
@@Aslash304 interesting. Are these things physical/mecanical faults or related to the software?
Overall, what do you think about the car?
6.5 out of 10. The same score I would give a Corolla
@@Aslash304 fair enough.
Thank you for a fair review of a fair review
Bingo
This is a great video. I cautiously invested in Fisker hoping that once the car got into people’s hands everyone would see how great it was and the company would survive. Now I’m thankful my investment strategy was cautious and I didn’t lose enough to be angry. It’s a shame and it sucks to see how poorly the cars turned out. Good luck in your future endeavors and I look forward to seeing you put up content about other EVs. The style of your videos is really good.
Thanks so much for this! Videos coming soon
Let’s hope that it ain’t over yet. My fantasy is that while apple has abandoned its car program, it likely has an operating system ready. If someone was to lease that OS and purchase fisker for dimes on the dollar, perhaps it could make a go of it.
Solar panels is a really cool future.
No, its not. Its useless and expensive.
If the car gets 10 miles per kWh and weighs less than a ton, then yeah, the surface area has potential. With this car it’s probably a 10 year pay off to cover the wholesale cost of the panel.
Excellent video Adam and well documented! I don't own a Fisker, but I subscribe to your channel because you lay out the facts and let us process the information as we choose. I also appreciate you keeping it real regarding the likes and dislikes as a Fisker owner. For some people to blame one person who created two reviews and claim that is why Fisker is potentialy going out of business is interesting and confusing to me. Those folks who purchased the car and the stock I feel really bad for and hope they can recoup some of their cash and maintain service and warranty work for their cars. But their are lessons everyone can learn from this experience and do better going forward. Good luck and keep bringing amazing content!
I sincerely appreciate this! Thank you so much for watching!
The sleek design and innovative features of Fisker's vehicles fit Apple's aesthetic perfectly, I think Apple should buy Fisker and relaunch it as Apple Car. Its weakness (software) would become its greatest strength overnight Launch the (renamed) Pear and Alaska along with the Ocean. With the unlimited marketing budget and gigantic fandom already built in from Apple, It would be massive. Continue to design the cars from that same factory, with Apple overseeing the quality control and making improvements before relaunch (such as Apple-made hi-res screens, Beats audio system, instead of "ocean" have the Apple logo glowing on the front like the old Macs) .
Apple screens are made by Samsung.
This is actually a good idea.
@@Aslash304Samsung also builds their microchips. what does that have to do with anything?
@@jsilva7005the original comment mentions “Apple built” screens.
@@Aslash304 My bad. Still I think it would be a good idea. Mainly because just having Apple associated with Fisker would give the brand legitimacy. A lot of people are wary of buying Fisker now for fear of it going out of business. If that were to happen imagine how difficult repairs would become. Not to mention the resale value would plummet even more than it already has. I hope Fisker stays alive, but I think a well established company needs to step in.
I understood him to be saying that pre 2.0 cars needed a tech visit to be updated to 2.0. Is that no longer true? Your car came with 2.0 and still had to be updated by a tech and then after the first update could be updated OTA. He said that once updated it could then OTA updates. You even quote him as saying it can more be plugged in while getting an OTA update.
Unless people were being dishonest, dozens claimed they got all 3 2.0 updates over the air. I got the 2nd and 3rd over the air.
My thought is it's more likely that it was true at the time or like depending on the update time they figured out how to do it over air consistently.
I mean even one of your updates was manual at one point.
Ain't over till it's over.
An ominous phrase for situations with insurmountable odds. Also correct
@@Aslash304 Well there is this theory in economics about how a business can fail because of the cost of initial investment and then sell for a fraction of its value giving the second owner the ability to survive without that debt. In economic geography there are case examples of small businesses like a restaurant that in this scenario may require 2, 3, or even 4 generations of ownership to be successful.
I enjoy my FOO, and my 2.0 update was done via OTA. The reviews are not factually its one persons opinion. Adam, please stop playing both sides.
What side should I play?
@Aslash304 That's up to you. But to agree with MK is absurd. OS lag and key fobs are issues I can agree. But to say, updates need not be done via OTA, and boot time is an issue and complain about drive modes. Are you serious? I'm enjoying the FOO. Be honest.
@@haitianlu30he is honest. He's just not a fanboy.
And I really wanted that Pear too. It's a shame really.
Agree
Great video man. Its a good car but price should be around 30k.
And it should have service centers. And parts availability
I had a solar panel in my Audi A8 from 2007.. it's used to power the fans and keep the car cool when it's parked.
The energy you are getting is miserable.
100% correct.
You have to remember there was a stalking horse bid in the last bankruptcy filing by a Chinese buyer. This might explain the corporate goings-on.
The value in the company is its US domicile, which opens vehicles up to subsidy. For Marques, he expresses conspicuous consumption, so to him, there is NO WAY anyone can express conspicuous consumption by buying a Fisker.
If Fisker had half an ounce of intelligence, they would send Marques a Ronin.
What are your thoughts on the PEAR?
@@Aslash304 Hi, thanks for asking. I’m not a car enthusiast, nor do I drive. I hold a driver’s licence, but use public transit. If I bought a car, it would be something like a PEAR, it would have to have all of the tech offered on competing EVs. I think the PEAR is too similar to the Ocean.
You know, a car with a stub-nose and cut at the end. I like the hatch, it should come to you when summoned, even if you’re km away.
7:05 - 300 mls are 482 km assuming a 20 kWh / hkm consumption you would need roughly 100 kWh of solar production.
That would mean compared to a fixed installation on the roof with 35° angle facing south would need 100 Wp to generate it.
100 Wp , what a shame considering that a real 1 x 1,70 panel is usually about 450 Wp, here 400 Wp are sold for half of the price for being outdated.
They should have gotten lot more out of the roof which means that there should be enough space to achieve that.
At the end Fisker is another example cause the first was SION which went bankrupt before production last year, which was a german startup in Munich always being behind targets and funded by the crowd. 25000€ was their price goal and they had delays and delays and went for another begging round. 25000€ is incl. 19% vat, so right now roughly 24000$ net price, but they never produced a produciton car nor delivered one, but some of crowd funders had paid the full price and were promised to get their money back, which then did not happen.
At least you have gotten a car , far better than the SION backers who got nothing out of their car purchase or should I say car bet ?
That car gained or claimed to gain 35 km max. range - on 3 days a year in munich or more south but had solar panel hood, roof and also on the sides and doors, a much bigger area for solar panels, but still not the most impressive figure - at least if you consider all the implications and high production costs to get a hood shaped solar panel. But they do own a lot of patents or rather had owned the patents.
I appreciate the feedback
While I love your deep dive into Marques 2.0 review that contains mostly true facts, I disagree about the perfection demand he insinnuated in that video.
I don't say that just for hating on Marques, as I actually like most of his reviews as well, but because I have been fiddling with cars of all kinds for centuries now.
There had been an unwritten rule as a journalist to not review a car you can't at least relate a little to. If I would review a 2 seated Alfa spider, or a Bugatti Veyron, they would be shown as absoultely horrible cars no one should buy. Why? Ridiculous fragile to operate (over speed bumps, on snow, for transporting a washing maschine, a 2 year old child,...) vastly overpriced for what they offer, no interior comfort, from companies that could end their operation soon,... I know, that rule to review cars in an at least polite way has been broken for electric cars for years now, as bashing them had become the new Norm for reviews, even for established motor journalists. The first Model S reviews from the german motor journalist Bloch around 2014 were a disgrace. He has mostly flipped sides now, and I respect that somewhat, but lets be real - the EV wave is coming, if not from europe, it will come from china.
The Austrian Pinzgauer off road car would be horrible for most review people of todays mindset , but they were made under certain circumstances, from a little company focused on mechanical engineering (the same one building the Fisker Ocean nowadays by the way...) and anihilated other offroad cars of the same size and road worthiness for centuries. We have a 6 Wheel closed version (beside a 4 wheel version and other offraod cars) , that we took for a skiing vacation in Gastein 20 years ago. It was warm and comfortable, with a full fledged working desk I used for CAD drawing while travelling the 500 km from our home. On site we daily just chose a huge snow pile, drove it up there and got out a few meters from the ski elevator entrance. If I get in teh Pinzgauer, it drives special in a good way, even 50 years after production. At work I drive a 2016 Renault Traffic, a sporty and overall great car, most passenger Ice cars are slow ducks in comparison. If I would get a similar driving electric version I would love it as well. Every car has been a compromise, there can and will never be the car that fits perfect for all car buyers. I respect Tesla for revolutionising production methods and pricing of Super sports cars (thats what they would have called them 20 years ago), but these don't fullfill my basic needs for pricing, transport capacity, interior style and size. But I can see why millions of people love them despite their flaws I can see.
The Fisker Ocean seems to be a solid, perfectly usable car with little flaws. But such flaws are not reserved for EVs of startup companies. I remember Mercedes A class cars frequently stopping their engine in the middle of the highway for no reason. You had to lock and unlock the doors to drive again. The Mercedes dealership found no problems in multiple inspections in the two year old car. After four years and 240.000 km the front suspension broke while driving (the first hand owner had told the dealership about noises coming from there, but inspecting the car they told the owner to use it anyways, because their customer lendable car was not available. There are crappy unusable cars, but the Fisker Ocean does not deserve to be put in that category fromthe reviews I have seen so far.
Biggest flaw: no parts. Next biggest flaw: extremely hard to get service. The two most important jobs for an automaker
I'm not sure why Fisker is being more aggressively complained about since even Lucid and Rivians have software issues and that didn't kill the Brands like this seems to be doing to Fisker.
Half the car is useless. The “first in industry” digital radar does nothing. There’s no adaptive cruise. The app is literally useless. Is this also true of Rivian and Lucid?
15 promised features when we bought the car are not there yet and no date to have them available
Lucid was mostly a scam and all the glowing reviews were B list RUclipsrs flown in and put up in expensive hotels then given a special development car, not production, along with a list of disclaimers to mention. Once the car finally came out, they had active social media managers to bury any software issues.
I'd rather the Fisker go bold or go home approach. If they fail then at least they gave it a real go. It sounds like they made a lot of genuine mistakes but then again it is a herculean task. If it doesn't work it doesn't mean they shouldn't have tried.
Phillip.
@@victormdp white Tesla typically only sells 2 or 3 features that are vaporware. Check out the Cybertruck reviews… well the honest ones anyway. Out-of-spec.
For fun I searched fisker inventory and FL and "expressed interest " and still no one from Fisker has reached out.
If you really want one, call Classic Fisker. It’s less than an hour
Austin Evan’s just made a video essentially testing if they are a “scam.” With their reach… their opinions can ruin people. I think they are trying. Not to say that they’d make it without their involvement but I’m about to try and buy the car at a substantial discount if possible.
It’s the only reason I haven’t bought one yet. Money.
The 2025 note holder diluted the value of the stock. This is a fact now
@@Aslash304 and?
@@jerimiah_y pass.
@@Aslash304 that’s your prerogative.
Well done Adam. My 12v battery was dead this morning. Fisker said this was a 2.0 one time glitch. Ugh.
I’m so sorry to hear that
@@Aslash304 Thanks Adam.
Fisker OCEAN is beautiful
Agree
The Fisker seems to have sooo much potential. Every problem seems to be software based while the hardware itself is fantastic. (GD overpaid underperforming programmers constantly screw things up but y’all are very soon to be replaced with AI). Somebody, some company, needs to rescue this vehicle. To me it’s too good to let fail. There were plans for a US manufacturing plant. Buy some android or apple carOS and build it domestically. I’m here waiting with a check.
I waited 4 years for the half baked version. Maybe by 2035
I never experienced that parking issue. Never.
What parking issue? Thanks in advance
I hope Fisker pulls through, this seems like a software issue and it is fixable, they did a great job with design and hardware
Great and poor in so many ways
This is ridiculous every time MKBHD says something stupid or wrong you you come out with: "What a genius he did that to cause controversy and generate more clicks" but hasn't it occurred to you that he might not be doing it on purpose?
Why do you watch these if you dislike them so much?
@@Aslash304 TBH I find your videos of good quality. However I think MKBHD is a pompous idiot who has no legitimacy in judging cars or car companies and anyone who describes himself as a fan necessarily gets on my nerves... But you're right I will stop watching and commenting your videos.
Who. Who. On planet earth wants to go through all this? That’s why I just bought a Mach E.
Good decision
Adam, All I can say this is a love-hate relationship. I honestly hope the Fisker gang gets purged and jailed. On the other hand, I can live with 2.0 and move on as long as all the known bugs have solutions (shared by the owner community). Who knows, maybe 30 years later Ocean becomes a collector item.
One must look 20-30 years into the future to feel confident about the purchase at this point.
Did Fisker announce this issue as a "RECALL"?
Fisker has had no official recalls
Be nice if these buggers would emphasize that updates can fix.. then when they are fixed.
When are the updates coming? After the bankruptcy?
@@Aslash304 Sarcasm? Never if they collapse.
I am in love with their designs. Sadly the company is very poorly run. Let’s hope a grown up company buys them and fixes the issues.
Hope is helpful at a time like this
same comment i put on his video.
simply not true. I'm OK with bad reviews. But you can't present incorrect info as facts. I have an ocean
1) 2.0 was installed OTA
2) slow wake up it's a setting under power. If you have it under max power save at 10 seconds, then it will go to sleep and it takes longer to unlock and power up. Set that setting to 24 hours and it's faster. I have it set to 24 hours, no issues.
3) Parking break w/o seatbelt. You can press the parking break button with your foot on the break and it will go into Drive or reverse. I don't see this as an issue. Never had a problem getting it moving without the seatbelt on.
4) Display flashing between acceleration, deceleration. Turn the brightness down in settings. I don't have the issue you described.
5) Regen over bumps. It's your foot moving the pedal. If you leave your foot off, it won't hiccup like you described. I don't experience what you reported.
6) 5 seconds to rotate a screen is too long? Compared to what over vehicles that allow you to rotate the screen?
how much of their stock did you short?
Someone invested more than they could afford to lose.
Did you watch the video? He addressed half the points in your comment. Also "it didn't happen for me" is not proof it didn't happen for somebody else, you need to be less anecdotal.
Phillip.
If you're not a fanboy that makes you a short? Lol.
@@Aslash304 don''t have any fisker investments other than the car, same as you. I've been following his reviews like millions of other people and what I said in the comments is copied and pasted from my comment to his second fisker video. All i was trying to do was to highlight is what I saw as being factually incorrect or didn't agree with in his video. I don't know why he would go after the same company twice with wrong information, with his influence it's not a leap to think he was shorting the stock before it was delisted.
I do appreciate, learn and are entertained by your videos, keep it up!
@@walthcthanks for the feedback. Fisker asked him to do the video
I see what you did there. 1. his statement on 2.0 was true to him at the time. 2. His point on bootup is objective and w/o drama. Your criticism of it is not. 3. He's absolutely right about the seatBeltParkingBrake issue, but neglected to point out the button. You neglected to accept that there is a distinctive change in behavior when seatbelt is not buckled, even if there is an override you wouldn't ever need to use otherwise.
You should do a break down video of my break down video. I’ll break down your break down of a break down if you do. We’ll have to call MC hammer to break it down after that.
The video made it seem like MKBHD was intentionally being untruthful about the seatbelt/parking brake issue in order to generate comments. It would have been better to state that as partially true, and that you can press the parking brake release to override it.
@@Aguvikawe can agree to disagree.
I got my update at home
Most did
Car had already been in public hands for 7 months. He can review it however he likes using his experience. None of what you tried to counter was seriously relevant to the point of the review. It was trash and only changed because of the backlash. Negative feedback is literally the purpose of positive change.
Did you watch the video?
@@Aslash304 Is that all you can reply to any valid criticism in your comments? I've scrolled through the comments and as far as I've seen you've failed to address any actual points to people other than just asking rhetorical questions and trying to act smart.
So no one is going to steal this car?
Could be
The drivers display screen changing color from red to blue is just lazy programming. There is literally one line of code for this. Something like "If Amps > 0 red, else blue" I heard some people say it's fine, but I think it shows their level of effort in programming and as a programmer myself would never implement something like this. Makes you wonder how much of the rest of the programming is the bare minimum.
My guess: All of it. Not the programmer’s fault either.
So that 8 year 100k miles is pointless now?
I’ll address this in my next video stay tuned
Bad reviews don’t kill companies but bad products do
Agree
My 2011 Toyota unlocks when I walk up to it everytime and always pairs my phone to its Bluetooth sound system. That these things don't work in a vehicle released in 2023/24 is beyond my comprehension
It’s poor. Plain and simple
While I think part of Marques’ review is sort of accurate, to me it was damage control because he got so much blowback. He said he never reviewed a car twice but obviously, he was trying to clean up his mess. That said, as an Ocean One owner for 6 months I still don’t agree with some of the things you are agreeing with and I run a group with hundreds of verified Ocean One owners. True, some have had issues with 2.0 leaving cars disabled or affecting acceleration but this is a very small minority. I myself got 2.0 part 1 and then part 2 on March 25th…completely OTA with zero issues. I know of a few that had issues but most I’ve spoken with have not. Here’s a video I shot unlocking my Ocean from 100+ feet away with 1 click. What I’m saying is that Marques’ experience and your experience does not represent the vast majority of customers. I’m in touch with them all day long and know this to be true. I also find it strange that Marques was double-ing down on his prior comments however he admittedly had nothing real negative to say about 2.0. True, he had no idea how the parking break worked (which is the same as every car on Earth…step on brake, release parking brake) and the droplets are annoying at first but after a few months you don’t even notice them. Hill hold is great, the 45/55 traction adjustment is fantastic, the audio update is great…yes we are STILL waiting for promised features but I just really need to be clear that the experiences of a few such as yourself, don’t represent the vast majority. Actual customers post tons of great feedback since receiving 2.0. You’re a fact checker, check the facts man and do better.
facebook.com/groups/oceanone/permalink/826995602804190/ (video of me unlocking from 100+ feet away)
If you have to say things like “but this is a small minority”…. Does that make it so there are no problems? And who am I protecting by pretending there aren’t problems? There’s no more shareholder value. And why did Fiskerati just quit? If my videos aren’t objective, then don’t let people post them on your forum. They are probably just a small minority.
I just think it’s important to be clear. Nothing to protect at all, Fisker leadership ran the company to the ground everyone knows that #GeetaGottaGo . Sean at Fiskerati sold his Ocean. I just don’t think it’s fair to say that it was an accurate call that part of 2.0 led to bricked cars which techs needed Magna’s assistance while OTA had stopped. I don’t know of one case where that happened. People were already scheduled for service for months and if they were lucky enough to have a service call, techs would install 2.0 while serving their cars. There was a time when OTA was paused for a week I believe while they repackaged the software into smaller chunks and in that time, even the techs couldn’t install it…once resumed it was back to OTA. You definitely had a bad experience and I know of a few others that did as well. I’m not saying there were no problems, I’m saying the majority of us did not have problems and the few vocal ones do not represent all of us. Happy folks normally don’t take the time to post their experience all over the net. Unhappy folks as you know, will scream the loudest…that still doesn’t mean they represent everyone.
I feel like you and MK are way too negative. I agree there are some issues with the car some issues, and yes some are annoying. But as a car it is amazing. The quality of the interior is superb, the car drives like a dream and feels nimble. The beeping from the Fipilot can be turned off but that is not a Fisker spesific issue. I came from a MB EQC and switched to a ocean one and I personally love it. I think with the next software update moste off the critical issues will be gone and the car will be woth the MSRP. Why Fisker gets all this hate is beyond me, it is not like it is the only car with some big issues. I like to compare Fisker with Tesla, and the fisker as a car blows Tesla out of the water, and teslas are no strangers to software and quality issues.
I leave this comment not to bash on Adam or Marques, they have the right to their own opinion, but I disagree with them on many points. My car functions great as a daily driver and a long trip runner. I recently drove over 1500km in one go without issues what so ever, and it is my daily to and from work and the kindergarden. If they go lights out I will run this car untill it dies and keep it alive as long as I can, no doubt.
I want people to know what it’s like to live with one from my perspective. I appreciate your point of view and I’m very happy you enjoy your vehicle. I hope my videos provide value
@@Aslash304 Your videos are great and they provide me with a point of view different to my own, and I value that. At the end of the day we are both owners of a car with great potential, all tough I might think it is a good car allready except a few bugs both big and small.
I can’t believe that this company ruins itself over details…. 🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️
Poor management
Karma, hmmmmm…wasn’t that the name of their first car, the first time they went bankrupt. Beautiful car, terrible cramped back seats.
They are beautiful cars
Fisker squeeze start on 3.4 nameday isidor it means god of isis ... 17.4 ghe top nameday isadora it means gift from god isis ... Same game was last year with leoni ...
Every time on Johannes nameday plug power get the top it is sell day. ... On 20.6 is nameday afelbert it means noble bear ... 4 days later ist Johannes nameday again meybe the squeeze is in this time i am not sure ... Adelbero nameday was in 6.10 last year and ursula 21.10 ... Both mean bear
Solved.
Trust your review completely... Any chance Fisker could hire you to steer them out of the Abyss.. you have a very realistic appreciation of their product ...
Thanks for your feedback
Fisker has failed because they just wanted to throw an EV into market. It is sad because this is a nice looking car and I think would have done well if Fisker would have taken their time before rolling it out.
Agree
Go Google "VW cariad". Look at the money and manpower poured into it. This is now being binned and outsourced to China. That's how hard it is.
Phillip.
I was going to grab a nice lunch today but decided to spend that $50 on few thousand shares of FSRN instead. I'm just here for the popcorn.
I mean, People bought those Bored Ape NFTs
no OTA. funny how you need fisker tech and magna tech to update.
Used to. I tried to explain how the car is updated over the air. I try.
This is a tragedy. Fisker built a car that wasn’t ready for prime time and alienated a lot of buyers even though Ocean has many admirable traits, but it’s too late now. Very sad.
Well said
Isn't there testing done!? A few issues OK, but major issues? That's another thing.
It’s laggy still wish they would improve the computer
I believe we all do
I really really hate that Fisker is likely going under, because this vehicle is in my opinion easily one of the most well-designed and beautiful electric SUVs on the market. It seems to me like hardware wise and design wise it's great, and it's all let down by abysmal alpha release level software. Makes me wish that they had enough money and funding to keep at it for another year or two, because it feels like that could turn this whole thing around. Of course their reputation is in tatters so even if they fix ALL the software issues people might still not give them a chance. Oh well. Such a shame.
Reputation is irreversible
Short sellers have done more damage to Fisker than he ever did.
Could it have been the untimely filing of the 10k reports?
I appreciate you fair review.
Thanks for watching!
It's pretty funny because even 3 years ago on CNBC they were saying that Heinrich fisker is an inventor and not a businessman and this company was going to do the same thing as his last company. I almost believed he was going to pull it off when I saw the cars driving around. Only rivian has a chance
Thanks for your feedback
Great Job! 👍🏾
Thanks for watching
I appreciate your videos but I dont think they are going out of business. Could there be a restructuring, or sale, or possibly even make it on their own...it's possible. We'll just have to see.
Your opinion is welcome.
No new reviews are going to help Fisker. Even if all of the Fisker’s software issues and all the options that were suppose to work that were advertised work the company has no future if they do not get major funding. If Fisker got an infusion of cash the best option would be to release the cheapest Pear version at a cheap price and with all the features working. I would only consider buying a cheaper Fisker in the future since they way I don’t waste $60,000 to $40,000 on a company that is still nor financially stable. Fisker went the wrong way. They tried to compete with Tesla. They should of been competing with Chevy Bolt market with a cheap EV at first.
Bait and switch
So what they should have done is released a car twice as good for half the price?
Phillip.
Excellent video again. You are very confident the company is toast. Are you expecting Ch 7 or 11? Previously you were predicting 11, but the negativity (all around) has increased.
I have learned more. I keep asking myself “what is there to sell?”
@@Aslash304 That is the risk of an "asset light model." But, as you pointed out before - the Ocean is an impressive car with some fixable software issues. It's certified for sale in US and Europe (and India and China). It's the closet thing available to a Model Y which is the #1 selling car in the US. That's more than just about any other maker as accomplished. Someone should want to buy that.
Shade!!
It was rain, to clarify.
Unfortunately MKB and others cycle through an algorithm that eventually requires they land a sensationally NEGATIVE for clicks review and it SHOULD BE about TESLA’s stupid single point of failure design choices on MANY features: door handles, removing buttons, ac vents, ROAD NOISE way too high for a car that should be THE QUIETEST, all controls require take eyes off road, Teslas are THE WORST car reviewed
Thanks for your feedback
The saddest thing is that you can destroy any company because you didnt like their product and it puts people off ! Everyone has a different opinion on any product.
God what about tesla how many people have been killed in crashes because of the car !
I’d love to know that Tesla number.
@@Aslash304 I think everyone would Adam I tune in from Scotland 😁
Fisker destroyed himself with his incompetency and ego
@@victormdp Don't talk alot of shite ! Because what he has a great product that people were jealous of
God knows how many lives Tesla has saved. Look at the aquaplaning video from this morning. Or the guy who tried to suicide his family off a cliff and they all survived.
Mine saved me personally when a lorry driver dozed and drifted into my lane in my blind spot. I had no idea why the car had a mind of its own until after it got me out of danger.
Be careful of cognitive bias and only seeing what you are looking out for.
Phillip.
Adam... thanks for a great "Fact Check" on MKBHD's FISKER OCEAN "2.0" review. No pun intended. You had a objective view on things. I smh at MKBHD's review of the "seatbelt" and "parking" option. My FOO got 2.0 "OTA" update. No issues. I'm happy to note that the OS 2.0 baseline has vastly improved my quality of rides. I wonder if FISKER will update the "energy" option (in the central screen/settings), to enable or disable the 120V AC outlet. Happen to come across a Instagram video of the Fisker OS 2.0 update which showed enable/disable of AC outlet. Keep up the good work.
I appreciate your feedback! Thanks for watching
I am glad to cancel my order last year and get the Tesla MY instead, I did loss $250 for the deposit, but I made the right decision 😂. It's a great looking car, but the software and / or the hardware is not that good for that price. Unlike Tesla, it is a boring looking car, but almost everything else is all good.
Why would you lose the deposit last year? It's a refundable deposit (minus $25 fee). I cancelled my order on March 4 and the refund hit my credit card a few days later.
Yep. A reservation is refundable, but the deposit is not. I love my Teslas. Thanks for sharing your experience. A good choice
@@cb-40it was the firm order deposit
Fisker going to bankrupt. You cannot run a company with 1 billion dollars in hands how can you keep the business going with 1-2 billions in debt. Hendrik Fisker would make a fortune shorting his own company without ever have to build a successful company.
Agree