That "glistening" backing track works so well with the visual of the sunset on the water and the Cyphers eerily floating by. God, this game is beautiful.
cyphers were all the rage back when this game came out. I think they were cancelled in their development but was part of the future warrior program. I remember a lot of cool stuff were cancelled but were in games like Ghost recon advanced warfighter and rainbow six vegas.
@@ofilosofoouumfumante5655 I wholeheartedly recommend it, tbh mgsv while not being too terrible is the worst in the series by far, even if you have to resort to emulation i definitely recommend 1 through 3 and ive heard 4 is great but i havent played it yet.
@@mooganify Picture yourself eating something, with a family member, like any normal human being would. You both finish eating and _you_ say out loud: *"wE'vE mAnAgEd To AvOiD cHoKiNg"* Now think about how moronic and awkward the silence that follows would be... XD
Visually is one thing. The fucking message of it holds up much, muuuuuch better. Go watch SuperBunnyHop's video on MGS2. CAUTION: Might result in a skull-shattering revelation. Not a joke.
@@viewtiful1doubleokamihand253 He tried to warn us....also, the Resident Evil games...a little too prophetic? Or maybe ritualistic? We are ruled by sick people....
@@murakawa-san2279by 8 months. I felt like the mgs 2 ost had such a wonderful mix of jazz, with drum and bass. Really nails both ambient, and action flawlessly. Also Gorillaz debut album was incredible.
"i wonder if i have to clear things with otacon before i ask her out" -snake, 2009, if you use the directional mic at some point when he shows up at this section
@Lonked Emma was 18? She looks like she's 14-15. Eh well, Meryl was also 18 in MGS1, so I guess it's just tradition. Another fun fact about Meryl, she's originally thought to be the colonel's niece, until the end of the game if you let her die, it's revealed that she was actually the colonel's daughter... So colonel poked his brother's wife?!
I never played a MGS game until 2011-2012 I think it was. MGS2 was my first, and I'm glad it was. I'd say I really missed out as a child but I didn't. I can't believe how absorbed I got into this game as an adult, and just how good it felt to play. It really came to me at a point in my life when I really needed it.
I just beat it now bought it back in high school , I watched a playthrough then didn't think much of it. Now at 22 and just beating it I realize I wouldn't have enjoyed it as much as I do now. What a phenomenal game. Solidus is easily my favorite though.
I am going to go ahead and say that MGS2 is probably the best in the entire franchise. The soundtrack is phenomenal and relaxing at some parts, The story may be confusing to some people but if you understand it the pacing of the plot is actually quite awesome and meaningful compared to other MGS games in the series, it kinda sucks that you don't get to play as snake anymore mush after post tanker mission but snake tails missions makes up for it. I no longer have a PS2 but I have it installed on my PC I'd say it's definitely a masterpiece.
@@MCENTRAL8G na 2 is way better , objectively speaking - with supporting arguments , 3 may feel better to some but , 2 is better as an emersive story, with existential questions, variety and near perfect pacing - only section that might be on par with 2 gameplay wise besides bosses; is the area where you dress up as a scientist ... most of the time in 3 you are heading towards a destination , with no alternative goals exept the building infiltration -- camo , the end , the sorrow, jail - some great gameplay parts but as a whole , 2 is just more interesting & varied
Possessed Wanderer sorry, but that’s just insulting, you could analyze the story of mgs2 for hours and still feel like you have an eternity left to think about, everything has a deeper meaning, each line, location, and sound
@@gabrielpauna62 @Gabriel Pauna objectively better does not exist. You can objectively judge elements of a game, but not the whole package. To do otherwise is just baseless arrogance.
Live in a place that eventually sinks, infiltrated by terrorists, under the control of the top 1% of the top 1%, filled with missiles, a nuke and killer machines that could be invaded and turned into a warzone by the US military off the top of my head. Smart choice.
@@anonecki metal gear solid 5 wasn't any better to be honest. One boss and loads of repeativive missions not to mention the whole building the motherbase/collecting resources.
Yo, I played this game over and over. The colors, sounds and music are burned into my brain. Playing till the early morning hours, before going to school. I wouldn't sleep at all. And whenever I'd tranquilize enemy guards, and then explore the area looking for Easter Eggs, the snoring of the guards would make me so tired that I would eventually go to sleep at 5 in the morning and skip school that day. The PS2 would still be running.
This track takes me back... back to 2001. I was 10. In the 4th grade. I beat this game, and it was quite the experience. After i immediately played mgs1 but this track takes me back to a certain time. We just wont get games like this anymore
Solid Snake : Think you can handle it? Raiden : Yeah. I know the drill. I've faced a similar situation in Advanced Mode Level 4 VR training with the PSG1. Solid Snake : VR...? Guess that's better than nothing. Make sure you don't hit Emma
0:00 Swimming Emma through the flooded lower floor of Shell 2's core. 1:19 Sneaking Emma Past Shell 2 Core guards and across connecting bridges. 2:38 Emma crossing the oil fence from Shell 2 to Shell 1.
@@SiveenO I know who Klonoa is. Just I'm questioning what it had to do with what the OP is posting. It's like if somebody is explaining something, and somebody else distracts from the conversation to point out some secondary trait that is irrelevant. It just makes you go. "Okay, and?"
Of course you'd want some chill relaxing jazzy theme between a sip of your favourite scotch whisky and a 7.62 bullet through the head of an enemy soldier.
Wow, this brings me back to looking for those bombs fatman planted on shell. MGS1 & MGS 2 weren't games you just played, they were games you experienced.
The moment when i was fully committed to the game's story and i think it was a 26 hour allnighter with very little sleep breaks at all. I remember how amazing and confused and utterly tired it felt after the first complete playthru. The whole ass series of this game needs a replay every 5 years. Think it's been 9 or 13 years since i laid off the save. Im glad i still got PS2 plugged right atop the xbox360 altho either dont get much use these days
Lol what are you talking about, this game is leagues ahead of most games that are coming out today. There's literally no stealth action game that came out in recent years that can hold a candle to the technical marvel MGS2 was.
@@supertrollfaxnoprinter3329 I'm talking about the actual technology used to make the game and the hardware that it ran on, not individual story elements and themes. I'm saying that what it wanted to do was held back from being not only an incredible story, but an incredible game as well. It's not a bad game but It came too early for it to achieve its maximum potential.
MGS2 had the best fitting soundtrack, I don't know how to explain it properly but every piece of music in the OST actually fits the game and its atmosphere, the whole Big Shell and Raiden.
Suri _Tryhorder Snake MGS1 was a true nightmare including boss fights in extreme mode, there is a special room in hell for the one who made it 🤣, but thankfully I got it
Raiden. If we had got to play as Snake for the whole game there'd have been no hate. I don't have a problem with Kojima's decision but that was definitely the sentiment at the time.
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"Help me step bro! I'm stuck on this wacky connecting bridge with a vampire!!"
You monster lmfao
As snake says “It’s not because he’s a vampire it’s because he’s bisexual”
Stepbro Otacon is too busy banging her mom
@@MelTheHal Lol i can hear him xD
@@MelTheHal Figures since as Fortune looked like a bloke 🤣
That "glistening" backing track works so well with the visual of the sunset on the water and the Cyphers eerily floating by. God, this game is beautiful.
cyphers were all the rage back when this game came out. I think they were cancelled in their development but was part of the future warrior program. I remember a lot of cool stuff were cancelled but were in games like Ghost recon advanced warfighter and rainbow six vegas.
I concur. The way this song replicates a soundscape that has one invisioning the sun-kissed ocean. It's just proper.
Yeah it is an incredible OST. Soulful, poetic with military motives. Totally unique. Love it to bits.
Beautiful memories❤
What a way to unwind after you've just managed to avoid DROWNING.
90's drum and bass is undefeated
As a psych-rock fan .. I can only take a bow
@@user-ue1ji4du2q I agree, but the new artists simply cannot compare
the game aint from the 90s
@@trustytreststarted development in 99
Mgs2 feels like a god damn fever dream
Otacon crying simulator 2009
this comment made me laugh so much
wasnt the game made in 2001
@@so_silly_ Yes, but the plant chapter takes place in 2009
@@I-NUCL34R-I oh
Lmao these comments 😂
The Big Shell incident took place in 1 day, I’m surprised Raiden didn’t show a sign of exhaustion.
Nanomachines
@@clarkesuperman + S3 Plan (Solid Snake Simulation)
@@inerttech2570 *Selection for Societal Sanity
@@clarkesuperman S O N
he got to sleep before they made him get naked
R.I.P. MGS.
Your impact on the games industry and us players will NEVER be forgotten.
@@Vvccshhshzhjsjsjahdhd Oh god no... Please...
I never played any mgs game aside from ground zeroes and I really want to play this older games but I have a ps4
@@Vvccshhshzhjsjsjahdhd What the shit is a strand type game?
MGS is a stealth game
@@ofilosofoouumfumante5655 I wholeheartedly recommend it, tbh mgsv while not being too terrible is the worst in the series by far, even if you have to resort to emulation i definitely recommend 1 through 3 and ive heard 4 is great but i havent played it yet.
@@collinrogers4742 i bought the hd collection after borrowing a PS3 from my friend i finished mgs2 and 3 my favorite is mgs2
That bass dropped harder than Emma
Oof
Oof
Oof
Oof
Oof
*wE'Ve MaNaGeD tO AvOiD dRoWnInG*
GOOD WORK RAIDEN!
When you’re trying to get the word count on your essay
A nerd?
I never understood what was wrong with that line?
@@mooganify Picture yourself eating something, with a family member, like any normal human being would. You both finish eating and _you_ say out loud: *"wE'vE mAnAgEd To AvOiD cHoKiNg"*
Now think about how moronic and awkward the silence that follows would be... XD
This game holds up so well visually. This looks like a painting.
Love the scenery.
they had very talented pixel-art texture artists, so their work really shines. most if not all the textures are hand-made.
Not only does it look great but it also runs at 60fps on the ps2
Visually is one thing. The fucking message of it holds up much, muuuuuch better. Go watch SuperBunnyHop's video on MGS2. CAUTION: Might result in a skull-shattering revelation. Not a joke.
@@viewtiful1doubleokamihand253 He tried to warn us....also, the Resident Evil games...a little too prophetic? Or maybe ritualistic? We are ruled by sick people....
Before there was lofi there was twilight sniping.
GoRiLLaz debut album predates this video game. That means before MGS2 there was lo-fi.
@@murakawa-san2279by 8 months. I felt like the mgs 2 ost had such a wonderful mix of jazz, with drum and bass. Really nails both ambient, and action flawlessly. Also Gorillaz debut album was incredible.
"Colonel, we've managed to avoid drowning."
"GOOD JOB, RAIDEN!"
😅
So weird that someone who was born after this game was made can now drink alcohol.
American moment.
Feel old now lol
I put in my bday into this game when I started and I realized that my DoB was years after the release of this game. Jesus.
"i wonder if i have to clear things with otacon before i ask her out"
-snake, 2009, if you use the directional mic at some point when he shows up at this section
!
man, i just commented that and got the quote completely wrong. xD i need to play the game again. it's been years
@@drakemire2844 go for it chief!
kojima finna get cancelled oh no
@Lonked Emma was 18? She looks like she's 14-15.
Eh well, Meryl was also 18 in MGS1, so I guess it's just tradition.
Another fun fact about Meryl, she's originally thought to be the colonel's niece, until the end of the game if you let her die, it's revealed that she was actually the colonel's daughter...
So colonel poked his brother's wife?!
"Hal? Hal? I miss you. I miss you."
*Crying*
We all have a choice to make here
Nooo I forgot about that paaaart! Ahhh!
EE xc
feelz
*Otacon throws bird*
Big shell.
shell.
kernel.
I've managed to avoid defragmenting.
Kernel.
Colonel...
@@nunyabizniz4556 Colonel?! Urrgh.. Tell me what's going on!
Dead Cell
Who is foxhound
Clanking metal is honestly one of my favorite instruments.
I have always had the same thought and I don't think anyone really got it
literally so true
I never played a MGS game until 2011-2012 I think it was. MGS2 was my first, and I'm glad it was. I'd say I really missed out as a child but I didn't. I can't believe how absorbed I got into this game as an adult, and just how good it felt to play. It really came to me at a point in my life when I really needed it.
That's beautiful, my dude.
we all sometimes ask about point of life. and who we are. but story needs go on.
I just beat it now bought it back in high school , I watched a playthrough then didn't think much of it. Now at 22 and just beating it I realize I wouldn't have enjoyed it as much as I do now. What a phenomenal game. Solidus is easily my favorite though.
Play 3, it's amazing.
@@nillynush4899 "Snake Eater" DID have the Best Intro hands down IMO.
this is my real hair.
The music in MGS2&3 is magnifico.
Everyone raves about Harry Gregson Williams but it was Norihiko Hibino who composed most of the in game BGMs like this, and they were masterful.
@@starsailing3823 Exacto-mondo dude! Fuck all the FMV BOOcrap Norihiko is the goat
@@starsailing3823 yes!
What a thrill...
ITS TIMELESS
The Emma arch was the peak of the game and brought together all of it's drama and stakes. I really love this game
I throw this on every time I’m sniping in MGSV
Raiden, where do you think you're going? Give Emma a safe passage with the PSG-1.
I am going to go ahead and say that MGS2 is probably the best in the entire franchise. The soundtrack is phenomenal and relaxing at some parts, The story may be confusing to some people but if you understand it the pacing of the plot is actually quite awesome and meaningful compared to other MGS games in the series, it kinda sucks that you don't get to play as snake anymore mush after post tanker mission but snake tails missions makes up for it. I no longer have a PS2 but I have it installed on my PC I'd say it's definitely a masterpiece.
2 is really, really good. a masterpiece. but i think 3 goes even beyond that
@@MCENTRAL8G na 2 is way better , objectively speaking - with supporting arguments , 3 may feel better to some but , 2 is better as an emersive story, with existential questions, variety and near perfect pacing - only section that might be on par with 2 gameplay wise besides bosses; is the area where you dress up as a scientist ... most of the time in 3 you are heading towards a destination , with no alternative goals exept the building infiltration -- camo , the end , the sorrow, jail - some great gameplay parts but as a whole , 2 is just more interesting & varied
Possessed Wanderer MGS3 was the best of all!!!
Possessed Wanderer sorry, but that’s just insulting, you could analyze the story of mgs2 for hours and still feel like you have an eternity left to think about, everything has a deeper meaning, each line, location, and sound
@@gabrielpauna62 @Gabriel Pauna objectively better does not exist. You can objectively judge elements of a game, but not the whole package. To do otherwise is just baseless arrogance.
I would totally live in big shell
Same man, that would be my home out of any video game level. Maybe shadow moses a close second but still, badass.
Zachary Scott Yes to Shadow Moses being home.
Live in a place that eventually sinks, infiltrated by terrorists, under the control of the top 1% of the top 1%, filled with missiles, a nuke and killer machines that could be invaded and turned into a warzone by the US military off the top of my head. Smart choice.
@@grikuomega Exactly. It's such a good resort location I'll just get property there eff it.
@@scottypittman1 sure the middle east wouldn't be better?
Rest In Peace Emma.
When metal gear had feels
now the feels have been surgically removed and replaced with SURVIVAL ZOMBIE CRAFTING, SON
@@anonecki pretty much
hero Sacrilege...
@@anonecki metal gear solid 5 wasn't any better to be honest. One boss and loads of repeativive missions not to mention the whole building the motherbase/collecting resources.
RAAARRRGHHH!
-Vamp after getting sniped in the head 5 times before killing Emma.
Wow. Loved this when I was a kid, looking back I didn’t realise how aggressively late 90’s /2000’s lounge chillout it was 😚 👌
Yo, I played this game over and over. The colors, sounds and music are burned into my brain. Playing till the early morning hours, before going to school. I wouldn't sleep at all. And whenever I'd tranquilize enemy guards, and then explore the area looking for Easter Eggs, the snoring of the guards would make me so tired that I would eventually go to sleep at 5 in the morning and skip school that day. The PS2 would still be running.
This track takes me back... back to 2001. I was 10. In the 4th grade.
I beat this game, and it was quite the experience. After i immediately played mgs1 but this track takes me back to a certain time.
We just wont get games like this anymore
This track always gives me the urge to take a shower.
LOL
Anti-metal gear solid propaganda
Tell that to Redditer
“A girl? What are you doing here?”
Solid Snake : Think you can handle it?
Raiden : Yeah. I know the drill. I've faced a similar situation in Advanced Mode Level 4 VR training with the PSG1.
Solid Snake : VR...? Guess that's better than nothing. Make sure you don't hit Emma
*Hits emma*
Otacon: RAIfeN yOu DifDnt
@@dogeofdojima3813 *Snake: RaIdEn YoU SoNaBa BiTcH!
Compared to hell that is the sniping missions in VR, I'd say Raiden was prepared well enough.
@@velocilevon Yeah plus all the real experience he had shooting and killing people since he was a kid that he buried in his subconscious lol
So hard on extreme
0:00 Swimming Emma through the flooded lower floor of Shell 2's core.
1:19 Sneaking Emma Past Shell 2 Core guards and across connecting bridges.
2:38 Emma crossing the oil fence from Shell 2 to Shell 1.
Klonoa pfp
@@iamthebuginsideyou5911 ...?
@@CosmicChris klonoa pfp... literally
@@CosmicChris The character is called Klonoa.
@@SiveenO I know who Klonoa is. Just I'm questioning what it had to do with what the OP is posting.
It's like if somebody is explaining something, and somebody else distracts from the conversation to point out some secondary trait that is irrelevant.
It just makes you go. "Okay, and?"
Big Shell is a scary yet beautiful place
The way you blended rescuing Emma and Twilight Sniping was genius.
Thanks, OP.
Still thanking OP to this day.
@@barthiz You're a real one homie
i don’t know a better way to describe it other than this song just sounds like the PS2.
That drop though. 👀
The sounds of Heaven
this sounds like water. so good
It’s really weird but MGS2 gives me a lot of “Spring vibes” fitting I guess since the game is set in April.
Man this track is so chill and awesome! Gives almost a 60s spy theme in a way!
Best video on RUclips. This song takes me to this exact sunset. Glad to know someone else sees it too
This was one of my favorite moments in this game plus I love how this song sped up when you got Alert!
Was so satisfied when I beat this on extreme. No one lays a scratch on little Emma
Except Vamp.
And whoever drugged her
Actually she had a very big scratch laid on her
"The sunset, Is beautiful!!"
"-AND if we Don't hurry, It Will be the Last we see!!..."
So relaxing.
Of course you'd want some chill relaxing jazzy theme between a sip of your favourite scotch whisky and a 7.62 bullet through the head of an enemy soldier.
"The sunset... it's beautiful."
Wow, this brings me back to looking for those bombs fatman planted on shell. MGS1 & MGS 2 weren't games you just played, they were games you experienced.
Nostalgic AF
The moment when i was fully committed to the game's story and i think it was a 26 hour allnighter with very little sleep breaks at all. I remember how amazing and confused and utterly tired it felt after the first complete playthru. The whole ass series of this game needs a replay every 5 years. Think it's been 9 or 13 years since i laid off the save. Im glad i still got PS2 plugged right atop the xbox360 altho either dont get much use these days
IMO, the best track from the whole game is "Twilight Sniping"
From the whole series*
I would say yell dead cell is better or tanker alert or arsenal gear caution
@@sega_pico The entire soundtrack is outstanding, but for some reason I just love the suspenseful tone of Twilight Sniping.
@@HKPSG1Shooter me too
Man, It's such a joy to think of this song and be able to ear it again after so much year. I miss this game..
masterpiece
yes lad
ello son
back again
To this day I’m still gutted that Emma died
Couldn't see shit back in the day escorting her underwater on my crappy CRT TV.
Beautiful beautiful music - befitting the time it plays in the game
Stay away from good looking women while you're fighting... otherwise you'll get diarrhea. One of the few things I learned from Shadow Moses.
One of my favorite pieces in MGS2.
Not exactly an MGS fan but makes my heart melt as a 90's boy into chillout and drum & bass
perfect combination, mgs and drum and bass ❤
Kojima's magnum opus.
I love this song! Favourite of MGS2
“I’m bored and I need attention!”
Im glad this video exists
0:00 Underwater
1:19 Escorting Emma
2:39 Oil Fence Bridge
You spoiled the game! Now everyone knows emma gets escorted
@@crosswire7777 Oh, I'm so sorry i "spoiled" an 18 year old game for everyone here in case the literal thumbnail of the video didn't already do that
@@slickcalf985 apology accepted only because it's not a brand new game
@@crosswire7777 i wasn't apologizing at all. I was being completely sarcastic.
@@slickcalf985 i wasn't actually serious i was trolling. You got played, son. Now go read your books
so good for study/work
Such a nostalgic bass line.
This whole game had a soundtrack and a story lost to time with amazing ideas that never could be fully fleshed out.
whaaaat for me they were really well executed, both story and gameplaywise, obviusly not perfect tho
I agree that in a way, Metal Gear and games like Syphon Filter came too early for the tech to truly realize what they were going for
Lol what are you talking about, this game is leagues ahead of most games that are coming out today. There's literally no stealth action game that came out in recent years that can hold a candle to the technical marvel MGS2 was.
@@KatoCoyoteCombatWorkshop the game wasnt about technology it was about postmodernism on the internet and the loss of truth. Completely nailed it.
@@supertrollfaxnoprinter3329 I'm talking about the actual technology used to make the game and the hardware that it ran on, not individual story elements and themes. I'm saying that what it wanted to do was held back from being not only an incredible story, but an incredible game as well. It's not a bad game but It came too early for it to achieve its maximum potential.
Man this is why I love this part of mgs2 might be why I have attachment to this one a bit more!!
I remember this level....it was kinda frustrating but good
Bring out the MGS collection for PC already please. My body is ready to 100% MGS2 for like the 100th time in my life.
MGS2 is on GOG but it's just the really old PC version from back then.
I think you can get the HD collection on PS now which also works on PC. It's a subscription though...
@@VenomSnakeMGS The MGS2 port is delisted now, probably for the better. It was broken
Emulators are the way to go
please, i need this on my spotify play list
One of the OG drum n bass tunes
I get relaxed when im listening this
MGS2 had the best fitting soundtrack, I don't know how to explain it properly but every piece of music in the OST actually fits the game and its atmosphere, the whole Big Shell and Raiden.
MGS2 spent big money to hire Harry Gregson Williams to do the soundtrack. He's the LeBron James of soundtrack making
Vamp: I'm bored and I want attention :3
"Amma gonna go backstab me a helpless lady that has trouble walking."
What a guy.
Snake: Kid, Emma’s been stabbed
Raiden: WHY AM I EVEN TRYING ANYMORE
My childhood
このBGM凄く癒されますね～
I just got the platinum trophy few days ago, gosh this game is so unique
Cant believe you actually took the time to get "virtually impossible"
Suri _Tryhorder Snake MGS1 was a true nightmare including boss fights in extreme mode, there is a special room in hell for the one who made it 🤣, but thankfully I got it
One of the sniping VR mission stopped me from getting the platinum, that and my PS3’s disc drive stopped working ☹️
Listening to this at work as Hurricane Hilary looms on the horizon.
Soundtrack so goated I can hear Johnny be curious around Emma
Greatest track in the entire metal gear series if you ask me
>nostalgia dementia causes him to forget MGS1 and MGS3 exist
@@YuuyaKZMI such a lust for memes causes him to forget that personal preference exists
@@BLACULA-Skeewoah Tbh, I don't even remember why I posted that comment to begin with.
@@YuuyaKZMI Redemption arc, nice
Some 2kki vibes in this
Was thinking the same thing
This song is depressing😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
this song has caused me so much grief...
Makes me wish to apply for a job on the Big Shell.
Anyone remember the conversation you can hear between Johnny and Emma?
This song gives me the urge to breathe manually.
Thats quite poetic and rather accurate, well said!
Great for drawing!
sounds like a ltj bukem track lol
I am the only one who shot snake just to see what would happen?
when i tranq-sniped him he would be a bit offended and kill me after his nap ^^
Nope. Big mistake
MORON!
Yea cause I have not seen he
Watch where you're aiming!
Always reminded me of UNKLE if anyone knows what im talking about...
Especially that one interlude in Lonely Soul
Legendary title 😊
MVP!
Best song.
I never understand why this game was hated so much as it's arguably in the top ten of all games.
Raiden.
If we had got to play as Snake for the whole game there'd have been no hate.
I don't have a problem with Kojima's decision but that was definitely the sentiment at the time.
It wasn't.