Dude cannot say anything good about this game, even in the section where he’s supposed to talk about what’s good. He’s a contrarian and he knows it, and can’t properly weigh pros and cons, and therefore can’t tell what a good game or bad game is to save his life
As someone who agreed with a lot of his points while personally enjoying the game, how about you give some reason as to why he's to wrong and start a meaningful discussion
@@adamchase9513 Not all of his critiques of this game were in bad faith, but when he put it below BDSP nah bro, that's when you really lost me, as we all know, that's blatantly not true.
@@lipika2841 Now while I personally wouldn't put this game below BDSP you have to remember that legends arceus plays a whole lot different from classic pokemon games. It's like comparing modern sonic games to classic sonic games. Clearly this guy is more of a fan of the classic games rather than the legends formula. In the first video he made on legends arceus the title was literally 'why legends arceus might not be for you'.
@yellothekunt6826 very true. But I don't think any pokemon games are objectively "good". Red & Blue, maybe gold & silver were good for their time, but other than that they are all pretty mid imo. Doesn't mean I don't enjoy them
About what you said with not being able to capture a mon if angered, a lot of them can be stunned by throwing items like mudballs at them, giving you a chance to catch them
@@AsecasJavi I don't blame him for not knowing, the game doesn't really make it clear to you that you're able to do that. In the item description it says you can stun pokemon with it but then in battle a provoked pokemon has that big X symbol at the top which kinda discourages you from using items on it. Combine with the fact that this doesn't work for A LOT of pokemon in game and it's no wonder he didn't know you could do this. He probs tried it out on one of the pokemon that it doesn't work on, saw that it didn't work and assumed that was how it was for every pokemon which again I wouldn't blame him if that was the case. Hell, I only found out about it by accident, I was trying to send out a pokemon and threw the mudball instead and saw it stunned the opposing pokemon, I then later found out that this doesn't work for all pokemon
@@AsecasJavi Did you not read what I said. I said that while item descriptions do tell you the giant X on top of provoked mons discourages you from using items, combine that with the fact it doesn't tell you it works on provoked mons(most items don't work on provoked mons such as berries) and the fact that it doesn't work on a lot of mons it makes sense how he didn't know
PLA gimmick of "Pokemon can attack you" is more than enough twist to thrill the fanbase who has been served the same repetitive formula in the main line series for decades. This is probably the main reason why PLA is universally liked, and rightfully so, because it was a whole different experience and people needed that, additionally BD/SP being underwhelming remakes of D/P may also contribute to the success of PLA, naturally people would compared them and found PLA is superior. (This comment is made before watching the video)
The fact that simply disagreeing with the popular opinion is enough for Pokémon fans to label someone as a contrarian shows that they see things in a very black nad white mindset. Like, have you considered that your favorite game/gameplay style does not work for everyone?
Disliking smth just because it doesn't work for you is kind of a black & white mindset in of itself. I feel this gameplay style isn't exactly for me as well, & yet I still believe it's deserving of the acclaim it commonly gets & I also consider it as the 2nd best 3D Pkmn game due to what was achieved by it. Plus, there's an actual big contrarian on site that immensely dislikes this game too, & so that gives people away the understanding & "the right to say" that anybody who does the same is equally an contrarian.
To the people saying he's wrong, how about actually giving reasons instead of calling him a contrarian or saying he just wants attention and didn't really play the game
Nyeee it was a lie nyeheheheewe yeee Recency bias is not taking action anymore but now my personal bias is fully at play and only my bad taste is the criteria!
Or y'know, people could actually have a different opinion than you. I don't care for this game and it felt like a big let down for me. It has nothing with wanting to be different or "edgy", sometimes people just think the thing you think is good is bad. It doesn't have to be clout farming.
Unfortunately whining about Pokemon games has become an easy method of farming for engagement. They're probably banking on people like us to call them out because arguing and disagreeing with them still gives them engagement causing them to appear in other peoples' algorithms. And I looked through this guy's past videos and found that he thinks HGSS wasn't good and that USUM is the best one in the series, so he's clearly just saying whatever he thinks will upset people and get him views and interactions. Do yourself a favor and click "Do Not Recommend this channel" if you see any more of his vids pop up. Lmfao
i play pokemon games since 2012 and i play them hardcore. Like breeding for shiny perfect iv pokemon hardcore. Sometimes takes months to get one. And PLA has literally nothing that a long time pokemon fan likes. No breeding, no pvp, in game battles are horrible, very small amount of pokemon available. Looks really bad too. I have 2.8k hours on violet, so i know what bad looking game looks like.
I don't understand the numerous amounts of comments basically saying that you're completely wrong with this video. See, even if I enjoyed playing PLA in the moment, I can easily look back on my time with it and point out a plethora of flaws with the experience. Especially now, after being scorned by BDSP's very existence and seeing how disastrous SV were handled. GameFreak clearly treated PLA as a demo to see if fans would like this style of gameplay, but they didnt believe it would be successful to stand on its own and created BDSP as back-up in case it failed, and went on to make Gen 9 without even considering that they could learn something from PLA's potential success. They didnt want to put too many resources into it, which left it half-baked and unsatisfying to complete. SwSh and Legends Arceus might've been what made me more hesitant to buy Pokemon games, but watching Scarlet and Violet explode on impact was the last straw for me. I have no hope for Legends AZ or Gen 10, even with the extra year of development (which is probably more indicative of a new Switch series than Pokemon Company taking a year off to make quality games.)
A 60$ demo is kinda crazy in hindsight lmfao. jokes aside i played this game digital launch and like those with standards i felt bored and a bit overstimulated, i played digimon cyber slueth last month and enjoyed it as i saw many similarities to the battle system in this game when in the context of a 1 v 1 instead of cyber slueths typical 3 v 3 and Cyber Slueth did it way better im ngl
Any criticism of Pokemon is considered a spicy take by the majority of people. Fans even defend the performance of Sca/Vio by talking about scale and how old the Switch is. Ignoring SMT 5 on the same console.
With how much everyone else seemed to love PLA, I wanted to like it too. But it just felt meh. I enjoyed bits of it. But the parts I disliked (like the fucking nonsensical battle system), really weighed on me. And frankly, I didn't like the game enough to actually finish it. Now I kind of want to boot it back up to see how I feel after a bit of distance, but rn I'm too busy doing stuff in the Pokemon games I actively enjoy.
Idk why im leaving a review here but there it is. Saw some reviews saying PLA is better than Scarlet/Violet, everywhere i looked it said "PLA is amazing!" got it and played whole morning, and "spoiler" i realised game is never gonna get good... aparently there is a battle tower kind of thing after story that i cant be bothered to look up. 1st of all i apsolutely loved start of the game, this early world setting, setting up camp kind of deal and making impact on town progression, getting mons,mats and quests/requests are fine in my opinion, . Then i got to a part where i realised there is litteraly no battling even with competative move customization, everything youre doing is just throwing balls at random things in a half empty/full world and that is litteraly the extent of gameplay. Game is nothing but a very grindy demo test for their new game type, models and their 3D engine... Story is nice altho it can be a LOT of reading at times that can start feeling burdensome. Personally the lack of any battles makes the game pointless in my opinion becuse you have no real point to getting mons other than completing a list and im very very disappointed i got this game to get a grindy chore simulator, i dont play games to get home and do chores, get on a game and do more chores...Game is on a same level to Pokémon Snap to me, this is for someone who has too much time on their hands and doesnt respect it. They can like that, but my opinion stands
Love it when a game is so broke for content they just say “here are literal checklists of busywork complete.” That’s… not good game design it’s an assignment.
The only thing I hate about PLA is battling volo because the first time I did it it took me 8 or 9 tries to win however after I started the game over i was able to beat him twice in a row and even after all that i love PLA
Ya I agree with u about the battle system it was annoying as hell. Most of the fun I had was outside battle just 1v1 ing pokemon or sneaking and catching
Good video, I noticed a lot of these problem during my replay of the game. I got this game after SV because I heard it was good and I wanted to get all of the forms for use in SV. Everyone was praising this game and shunned SV, saying that it should have been another legends game instead. The game is a good idea but I felt empty playing after playing too long. It was weird because for a game that's prime focus is completing the Pokedex, I'd thought I wouldn't be able to put this game down. But when playing, it got so tedious I would stop playing and playing something else. This didn't happen with SV, and this is with trade evos, weird requirement evos, traditional battling, and version exclusives. I think SV's Pokedex following the the tradition of make the dex optional is better then making it the central thing. Because the Pokedex is for optional completion, if the player enjoys the game and wants to see everything, they'll work on the dex. But make it mandatory make it feel like it weighs the player down...because it does. I respect the game for being different but the changes aren't all for the better. Like, I play this game now for the purpose of getting Pokemon into SV. (Because you can battle online.) Here's hoping Legends Z-A improves on this. TLDR: The Pokedex being the main focus of this game was handled poorly. Hoping Legends Z-A improves.
I agree this game isn’t that great. Quite disappointed that Sinnoh was totally barren and the huge missed opportunity of the story. It’s just catching pokemon simulator which isn’t that interesting to me
Do not let him cook
hes spitting facts
Dude cannot say anything good about this game, even in the section where he’s supposed to talk about what’s good. He’s a contrarian and he knows it, and can’t properly weigh pros and cons, and therefore can’t tell what a good game or bad game is to save his life
As someone who agreed with a lot of his points while personally enjoying the game, how about you give some reason as to why he's to wrong and start a meaningful discussion
@@adamchase9513 Not all of his critiques of this game were in bad faith, but when he put it below BDSP nah bro, that's when you really lost me, as we all know, that's blatantly not true.
@@lipika2841 Now while I personally wouldn't put this game below BDSP you have to remember that legends arceus plays a whole lot different from classic pokemon games. It's like comparing modern sonic games to classic sonic games. Clearly this guy is more of a fan of the classic games rather than the legends formula. In the first video he made on legends arceus the title was literally 'why legends arceus might not be for you'.
Out of all the games that have come out in the past 7 years, PLA is definitely the most fun imo
That dosen't mean shit considering the last games were geniunely awful. Not mid, actual dogwater.
@yellothekunt6826 very true. But I don't think any pokemon games are objectively "good". Red & Blue, maybe gold & silver were good for their time, but other than that they are all pretty mid imo. Doesn't mean I don't enjoy them
About what you said with not being able to capture a mon if angered, a lot of them can be stunned by throwing items like mudballs at them, giving you a chance to catch them
That would require actually playing and not sucking at everything the game asks you for
@@AsecasJavi I don't blame him for not knowing, the game doesn't really make it clear to you that you're able to do that. In the item description it says you can stun pokemon with it but then in battle a provoked pokemon has that big X symbol at the top which kinda discourages you from using items on it. Combine with the fact that this doesn't work for A LOT of pokemon in game and it's no wonder he didn't know you could do this. He probs tried it out on one of the pokemon that it doesn't work on, saw that it didn't work and assumed that was how it was for every pokemon which again I wouldn't blame him if that was the case. Hell, I only found out about it by accident, I was trying to send out a pokemon and threw the mudball instead and saw it stunned the opposing pokemon, I then later found out that this doesn't work for all pokemon
@@adamchase9513 the game does teach you by item descriptions.
@@AsecasJavi Did you not read what I said. I said that while item descriptions do tell you the giant X on top of provoked mons discourages you from using items, combine that with the fact it doesn't tell you it works on provoked mons(most items don't work on provoked mons such as berries) and the fact that it doesn't work on a lot of mons it makes sense how he didn't know
@@adamchase9513 the x is only telling you the catch rate. The game tells you that. Try anything else. You didn't? Your fault.
Seems like you sped through the game without ever trying to enjoy it.
Bro ain't cooking shit
PLA gimmick of "Pokemon can attack you" is more than enough twist to thrill the fanbase who has been served the same repetitive formula in the main line series for decades.
This is probably the main reason why PLA is universally liked, and rightfully so, because it was a whole different experience and people needed that, additionally BD/SP being underwhelming remakes of D/P may also contribute to the success of PLA, naturally people would compared them and found PLA is superior.
(This comment is made before watching the video)
BREAKING NEWS:
MAN COOKS THE FIRST EVER DISH TO BE BOTH SPICY AND SALTY
IT IS NOT VERY GOOD
Imagine being this salty lmao
The fact that simply disagreeing with the popular opinion is enough for Pokémon fans to label someone as a contrarian shows that they see things in a very black nad white mindset.
Like, have you considered that your favorite game/gameplay style does not work for everyone?
Disliking smth just because it doesn't work for you is kind of a black & white mindset in of itself. I feel this gameplay style isn't exactly for me as well, & yet I still believe it's deserving of the acclaim it commonly gets & I also consider it as the 2nd best 3D Pkmn game due to what was achieved by it.
Plus, there's an actual big contrarian on site that immensely dislikes this game too, & so that gives people away the understanding & "the right to say" that anybody who does the same is equally an contrarian.
To the people saying he's wrong, how about actually giving reasons instead of calling him a contrarian or saying he just wants attention and didn't really play the game
Nyeee it was a lie nyeheheheewe yeee
Recency bias is not taking action anymore but now my personal bias is fully at play and only my bad taste is the criteria!
After the hype died down, there were multiple times where i fell asleep mid gameplay out of boredom.
What is it with this trend to hate on stuff that's popular?
PLA is a great game, and no desire to be edgy for views is going to change that.
Or y'know, people could actually have a different opinion than you. I don't care for this game and it felt like a big let down for me. It has nothing with wanting to be different or "edgy", sometimes people just think the thing you think is good is bad. It doesn't have to be clout farming.
Unfortunately whining about Pokemon games has become an easy method of farming for engagement. They're probably banking on people like us to call them out because arguing and disagreeing with them still gives them engagement causing them to appear in other peoples' algorithms. And I looked through this guy's past videos and found that he thinks HGSS wasn't good and that USUM is the best one in the series, so he's clearly just saying whatever he thinks will upset people and get him views and interactions. Do yourself a favor and click "Do Not Recommend this channel" if you see any more of his vids pop up. Lmfao
My guy, did you watch the video? He has reasons for not liking the game.
i play pokemon games since 2012 and i play them hardcore. Like breeding for shiny perfect iv pokemon hardcore. Sometimes takes months to get one. And PLA has literally nothing that a long time pokemon fan likes. No breeding, no pvp, in game battles are horrible, very small amount of pokemon available. Looks really bad too. I have 2.8k hours on violet, so i know what bad looking game looks like.
@haze598 yeah that's why it's called a spin off.
A bad game is not defined in a dictionary for not meeting your criteria.
You are not an authority.
I mean I'm glad to see a varying opinion on this game ngl keep it up.
I don't understand the numerous amounts of comments basically saying that you're completely wrong with this video.
See, even if I enjoyed playing PLA in the moment, I can easily look back on my time with it and point out a plethora of flaws with the experience. Especially now, after being scorned by BDSP's very existence and seeing how disastrous SV were handled. GameFreak clearly treated PLA as a demo to see if fans would like this style of gameplay, but they didnt believe it would be successful to stand on its own and created BDSP as back-up in case it failed, and went on to make Gen 9 without even considering that they could learn something from PLA's potential success. They didnt want to put too many resources into it, which left it half-baked and unsatisfying to complete.
SwSh and Legends Arceus might've been what made me more hesitant to buy Pokemon games, but watching Scarlet and Violet explode on impact was the last straw for me. I have no hope for Legends AZ or Gen 10, even with the extra year of development (which is probably more indicative of a new Switch series than Pokemon Company taking a year off to make quality games.)
A 60$ demo is kinda crazy in hindsight lmfao. jokes aside i played this game digital launch and like those with standards i felt bored and a bit overstimulated, i played digimon cyber slueth last month and enjoyed it as i saw many similarities to the battle system in this game when in the context of a 1 v 1 instead of cyber slueths typical 3 v 3 and Cyber Slueth did it way better im ngl
Ohey, someone who isn't blinded by nostalgia
The game while not perfect has tons of good ideas that need to keep realised in the franchise.
spicy take
Any criticism of Pokemon is considered a spicy take by the majority of people.
Fans even defend the performance of Sca/Vio by talking about scale and how old the Switch is. Ignoring SMT 5 on the same console.
@@haruhirogrimgar6047 fair. We should be more precise. This take is crap
With how much everyone else seemed to love PLA, I wanted to like it too. But it just felt meh. I enjoyed bits of it. But the parts I disliked (like the fucking nonsensical battle system), really weighed on me. And frankly, I didn't like the game enough to actually finish it. Now I kind of want to boot it back up to see how I feel after a bit of distance, but rn I'm too busy doing stuff in the Pokemon games I actively enjoy.
Never knew heatran was in legends
Idk why im leaving a review here but there it is. Saw some reviews saying PLA is better than Scarlet/Violet, everywhere i looked it said "PLA is amazing!" got it and played whole morning, and "spoiler" i realised game is never gonna get good... aparently there is a battle tower kind of thing after story that i cant be bothered to look up.
1st of all i apsolutely loved start of the game, this early world setting, setting up camp kind of deal and making impact on town progression, getting mons,mats and quests/requests are fine in my opinion, . Then i got to a part where i realised there is litteraly no battling even with competative move customization, everything youre doing is just throwing balls at random things in a half empty/full world and that is litteraly the extent of gameplay.
Game is nothing but a very grindy demo test for their new game type, models and their 3D engine... Story is nice altho it can be a LOT of reading at times that can start feeling burdensome. Personally the lack of any battles makes the game pointless in my opinion becuse you have no real point to getting mons other than completing a list and im very very disappointed i got this game to get a grindy chore simulator, i dont play games to get home and do chores, get on a game and do more chores...Game is on a same level to Pokémon Snap to me, this is for someone who has too much time on their hands and doesnt respect it. They can like that, but my opinion stands
Common video essay L
you are not a clown you are the entire circus
Love it when a game is so broke for content they just say “here are literal checklists of busywork complete.” That’s… not good game design it’s an assignment.
The only thing I hate about PLA is battling volo because the first time I did it it took me 8 or 9 tries to win however after I started the game over i was able to beat him twice in a row and even after all that i love PLA
Does anyone get the reference?
Ya I agree with u about the battle system it was annoying as hell. Most of the fun I had was outside battle just 1v1 ing pokemon or sneaking and catching
First view and first comment, love ur vids bro
Good video, I noticed a lot of these problem during my replay of the game. I got this game after SV because I heard it was good and I wanted to get all of the forms for use in SV. Everyone was praising this game and shunned SV, saying that it should have been another legends game instead. The game is a good idea but I felt empty playing after playing too long. It was weird because for a game that's prime focus is completing the Pokedex, I'd thought I wouldn't be able to put this game down. But when playing, it got so tedious I would stop playing and playing something else. This didn't happen with SV, and this is with trade evos, weird requirement evos, traditional battling, and version exclusives. I think SV's Pokedex following the the tradition of make the dex optional is better then making it the central thing. Because the Pokedex is for optional completion, if the player enjoys the game and wants to see everything, they'll work on the dex. But make it mandatory make it feel like it weighs the player down...because it does. I respect the game for being different but the changes aren't all for the better. Like, I play this game now for the purpose of getting Pokemon into SV. (Because you can battle online.) Here's hoping Legends Z-A improves on this.
TLDR: The Pokedex being the main focus of this game was handled poorly. Hoping Legends Z-A improves.
so you're telling me game freak sacrificed the sinnoh "remakes" for a mid open world tech demo?
not really
they tried somethign new and this guy has some hyper turbo autism and doesn't like different things
how i feel about this game lack of content killed this game lack of a full dex killed this game
I agree this game isn’t that great. Quite disappointed that Sinnoh was totally barren and the huge missed opportunity of the story. It’s just catching pokemon simulator which isn’t that interesting to me
Wow, impressive! A whole hour of bad takes!