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What if Titanic's stern remained afloat? | Nautical Tales
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- Опубликовано: 21 июн 2024
- In this video I talk about an alternate reality where the RMS Titanic's stern remains afloat, also including some of my models from Stormworks: Build and Rescue!
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'Life in Silico' by Scott Buckley - released under CC-BY 4.0. www.scottbuckley.com.au
'Life In Motion' by Scott Buckley - released under CC-BY 4.0. www.scottbuckley.com.au
200 to 300 lost instead of 1500. Truly a better timeline.
Oh yeah!
It would have also legitimised the enormously dangerous myth that lifeboats aboard (at the time) modern passenger steamers were a 'nice to have' redundancy, and not an absolute safety necessity. If Titanic's hull survived like this, safety regulations would not have been tightened, and another passenger liner would, sooner or later, have suffered catastrophic loss of life.
Safety regulations are written in blood. If they weren't written in the blood of Titanic passengers, they'd have been written in the blood of another ship's passengers before long.
@@theoclutterbuck I'd imagine the sinking of The Lusitania would have shaken up the complacent safety culture if Titanic hadn't.
@@Neotastic_Gaming how
its not even remotely possible when the split it structurally compromised the aft section ripped big gapping holes all around it for water to leak in even if it the water tight bulk heads were closed the only way she could have stayed afloat would have been a clean cut
This would have been the biggest event in marine time history, even as the real Titanic is. This would have been a miracle among the survivors, a life changing event from total despair and death turned into a salvation, even a rebirth. This would have been something beyond even the wildest dreams if this had happened. One amazing video!
yeah shame no body every thought oh yeah a decoupling joint in the double bottom hull might be a good idea in the event of sinking to save the ship
@@raven4k998 Its unlikely that no one thought about it. What is much more likely is that a joint like that was considered to be a safety hazard and a weakpoint in case of very rough seas, which could make the ship split unintentionally.
Yep! 👍
@@Neotastic_Gaming shame the stern didn't break off more cleanly and stay a float if it had it would have saved a lot of lives had the ship done that one shame no one thought being weak like that would be a design feature for the ship to have
@@pavelslama5543that’s exactly true thats why ships also have joints and what the square plating on the side with the corners shaved off was for so that in rough seas the ship could flex also worth mentioning it would be a waste considering titanic is about the only ocean liner to have split in sinking because its so unlikely for a ship to split unless its a cargo ship which many of which have split in rough seas
If the stern survived, it may have gone into a museum.
Probably not
It would have been scrapped
I remember grade the dog 😔
@@awkdarshoh yeah, I forgot about the maintenance cost.
@@Gabethedoggo some of it would probably get put in a museum
Imagine the shock of the Carpathia when Titanic became a lifeboat of itself in some way. Amazing video btw
That was the idea. The ship itself was meant to be one giant lifeboat but obv that didn't turn out well.
Imagine the shock that people think this is possible.
If the engines had broken off and fell out when the ship broke in half, the stern could have stayed afloat. However, since they held strong to the ship and were the heaviest part of the ship, they drug the stern under far more quickly than it could fill with water. Survivors reported hearing what sounded like an underwater explosion after the stern had sunk. It evidently still had large air pockets that reached a crush depth for the ship structure. The stern imploded, causing the severe damage we see visible on the stern today.
No, it could NOT have floated with the engines gone. See my comment.
Cool stuff!
I'm pretty sure the stern could have survived as presented here due to the watertight bulkheads; but the breakup caused far too much damage to the shell plating and bypassed the bulkheads.
The stern could only have survived if the breakup was clean enough to avoid propagating cracks, tears, and ruptures further aft.
GUYS stop its just a what if ITS A WHAT IF ok no need to be realistic
A ship floats by the air inside. The weight doesnt matter. Thats why there exists multiple cement boats. The stern was dragged by the bow, then the air pockets that could make it stay on float, made it implode
If something like this really happened to RMS TITANIC the ship should have become a Museum ship and hotel because of its survival of parcel sinking. Also probably sometime in the mid to late 1980s Titanic's bow was discovered by Bob Ballard.
What's a "parcel sinking" ?
@@McLarenMercedes Well in this what if scenario video Titanic's stern remained afloat and the stern got towed back to Harland and wolff ship yard and they rebuilt a new bow and rebuilt the ship like new.
@@McLarenMercedesHe meant 'partial'
The ship would have been scrapped be fr, Interiors, hull, keel, plates all was ripped apart the ship would have been Scrapped.
Titanic had she not hit ... the iceberg would have been scrapped like Olympic was ..... N sold off for scrap etc 😭
Lightoller was swept off during the final plunge while he was desperately working around the bridge and officers quarters areas to try and launch Collapsibles A and B. It's possible those crew still on the stern might've recovered him, if they'd been able to find Collapsible B in the dark, but given the chaos, it would've been up to those crew and passengers still left on the stern to help themselves.
This all assumes the stern could even have remained afloat with the huge amounts of damage from the breakup and being pulled down by the weight of water and the heavy machinery inside near the break up point.
Some other crew members could've taken charge on the stern (pursers, engineers, senior ratings, etcetera).
Wow! Interesting!
considering the ship broke in one section and crack in half a little further which is why a section of titanic is gone and many other factors thats to long to list make it’s impossible any out come couldve kept the ship afloat
It would be such a strange, unbelievable, sight to behold. A ship split in two with a stern staying afloat. It would easily be the most infamous disaster thanks to what goes down even in this universe. Its also possible that a number of key figures who died would now be alive, including Captain Smith, Thomas Andrews, among others.
An imagine the expedition in search of the Titanic's bow. Based on accurate reports of the location the stern section was last (assuming it didn't drift too far from the scene of the sinking and break up) and finally locating it where it rests on the sea floor today. Now alone as one massive piece with a smaller debris field surrounding it.
Based on eyewitness reports, Smith and Andrews likely would've been swept off and died in the fringed waters rather than survive. Same with Lightoller who still would've been swimming around and then got on Collapsible B. Hundreds still would have died that way who jumped overboard, got carried off by the rising waters, or trapped inside the bow section, and or were unlucky to be at the break up point itself.
@@mikedicenso2778 that's true, I did say it was possible though, not assured as depending on where they were, they might have a chance at rescue if they climb onto some floating debris or, less likely but possibly, get on titanic stern. Again, possible. I also know their would be people dead, either trapped in the bow section or freezing to death in the Atlantic.
Truly as unbelievable as it ridiculously impossible.
This could have happened in fact since it's based on the Suevic Incident.
@@ExAnimoPortugal The Suevic involved the bow being carefully cut cleanly loose from the aft 2/3rds of the ship in a very carefully controlled demolition.
The original bow was then left on the rocks where it had become grounded, and eventually was broken up by wave action.
In this scenario, it's far less likely because the break up of Titanic happened right at one of the worst possible places: the engine spaces, and even if the keel had let go sooner, it would've only delayed the inevitable sinking of the stern with all that damage and the heavy machinery pulling the break point down where water could flood the stern.
I kinda like this timeline.
The Titanic lived a long and successful career and got scrapped,
While the Original Titanic would be at the bottom of the ocean, where it would be visited by submersibles
Great video.
There is no comma in submarines
she got to grow old with her sister together
To OP.
If the stern section by some insane miracle stays afloat there's no way in h*ll they'll build a new ship around that part. First of all you might as well build a whole new ship from scratch which will be a lot easier, and second of all people were *really superstitious* and wouldn't want to go on a "cursed ship" with the same name. Not a chance in h*ll. It's therefore a bizarre idea totally detached from reality.
"where it would be visited by submarines" What submarines can visit the wreck?? None. A few deep-sea *submersibles* can.
@@McLarenMercedes there I fixed it.
@@McLarenMercedes I mean you're arguing the whole point of the video itself that OP is commenting on. The scenario is the stern manages to remain afloat, and the potential aftermath from that. Next, rebuilding Titanic would make sense as the stern section, despite the area of the split, could still be used as her engines are still in great condition and it would likely take sometime until a new Hull is laid down and built again for the, to be reused, where instead here they could "cut" off the destroyed bits, then rebuild the bow from scratch and simply connect it. The stern is already complete and just needs repairs, where the middle and bow can be built and attached to an already waiting stern. Superstition or not has not stopped ships from sailing and even here I doubt that would make a meaningful impact as compared to our world when she did go down altogether. Plus it would be a waste to scrap the stern altogether then build a new forward half.
Also, yes Submarines could reach the wreck, as I think OP means the ones we have now that are designed to travel down in the form of deep-sea submersible. You're just repeating what OP said there as a deep sea submersible is still a Submarine, just one purpose built for this type of operation.
Honestly, why are you commentating on OP's comment and not the video itself if you see the flaws in it? You willingly choose to comment on OP and point on flaws that weren't their to begin with.
Using stormworks for these kind of videos is the best thing ever
Wow this was neat for the stern staying afloat when for a moment I thought the stern will afloat when fall backwards this was exactly what I dreamed last night
Yeah! It was cool
@@Neotastic_GamingITS HIM
@@Neotastic_Gaming it's the MAN
I had a stroke
That's so hard to read
If the double bottom never made (it made to avoid from grounding damages) thisll be real. After she splits into sections, hull and superstructure splits but the double bottom stays one piece. Cause of it, bow tries to go down while stern want to float, stern started to go up and sinks. If u look to wrecks, bow actually can recognisable but stern is not. The air in her compartments and other places caused explosions in her.
Super intriguing
yeah I mean had they had the tools to rip one of the layers of the double hull up making it single hull in a spot creating a weak spot on purpose this would have happened but sadly they either did not have the tools or know that this would save lives and part of the ship
If Titanic’s Stern stayed afloat and had a new bow constructed, I think two very different things would happen;
A: Gigantic/Britannic’s construction could’ve been delayed. Meaning the WSL could probably have its Trio Superliners. Probably saving them from bankruptcy and they would become the Majority Holders in the merger with Cunard
B: With Titanic’s triumph over tragedy 89 years earlier, also being the Phoenixs rising from the ashes would be the Twin Towers (probably with designs more akin to that of the current One World Trade/Freedom Tower)
@@miscellaneoussarnian5282 Olympic was the only liner to have a successful career on the north Atlantic seas over 500 sea crossings infact Olympic was nicknamed the old reliable she served white star line well sadly fate was sealed n she was scrapped n dismantled....shame Olympic would have been nice as a floating hotel of the Edwardian period
@@Tiffany.1970 Да, но тогда была великая депрессия и "Олимпик" тогда был максимально убыточным. Он не приносил никакой прибыли, потому что постоянно стоял у морского порта, без дела. Если бы "Олимпик" начинали превращать в отель или музей, то были бы огромные затраты. Во время великой депрессии, у людей не было денег на что-то и музей "Олимпик" бы продолжил приносить убытки и возможно закрылся. Тогда была большая безработица и когда "Олимпик" сдали на слом, то его разбирали сотни человек, что дало им работу.
already know this lol 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@Tiffany.1970А зачем тогда написал, что жаль, что Олимпик сдали на слом, а не превратили в Отель, если ты знаешь в чём причина?
Interesting!
this is my theory: Titanic sets out on her maiden voyage, on april 14th 11pm she hits a burg and splits although the bow sank the stern managed to stay afloat, carpathia will arrive shortly to help the passengers on the stern, after all the passengers are off carpathia broadcasts Titanic's stern to other ships, soon a series of ships arrived to tow the titanic back to belfast, Olympic wont help in this operation as the arrival of the olympic might make some of the surviours feel a bit uneazy.
after the voyage back to belfast, titanic will be laid up next to the keel of britannic and white star will laid the keel plates for titanic's new bow, after a year she will set out on her second maiden voyage, when she arrived in NYC she was welcomed with a ton of fanfare, Titanic's years were good years some voyages even exceeded the passenger amount carried by the olympic, Titanic was nickenamed the ship who cheated death, soon britannic was introduced with even safer equipment, and white star finally had its trio, but soon world events are about to change and WW1 will lead to britannic's loss after striking a mine.
the 1920s were titanic and olympic's golden years, people from all around the world wanted to experience what it was like for the passengers on her orignal maiden voyage, and paired with the recently built Majestic and her older sister olympic, the trio proved a major threat to the cunard liners, but overall the white star line would gain a massive amount of profit until the IMM sold WSL away.
the 1930s was the worst years for WSL for the first time in its history it recovered its first loss, and with other rival companys building more better and faster super liners it was clear that WSL needs a superliner of its own, but the massive amounts of cost wont allow it, and in 1934 WSL and cunard would be forced to murge, cunard owned a majority of the new company's share as it had a closer relationship with the royal family, the first ships to be scarpped were the remaining assets of the Big four, then the Olympic and the maturtiania, Titanic was next on the line but her legendary past made.her still profitable and cunard decided to keep her, so majestic was scarpped instead of titanic, WSL had planned to build a pair of motorships due to their superliner being canclled, and titanic would acomapny the 2 smaller motorships, but in 1938 titanic's passengers began to dry up and its clear that her days are numbered, after a few more cruises and transatlantic voyages she was laid up, but right when she could be bought by any scarpers the britsh royal navy stepped in and bought her to be used as a training ship, 1939 with the outbreak of WW2 Titanic was converted into a troopship, she retained her orignal name but her image was drastically changed, her funnels were cut to a stump with her fourth funnel competely removed and her bow was fixed four 6 inch cannons with a 11 inch on the stern acompany with two more 5 inch cannons and loaded with dezons of AA guns, in one point she will be captured by the germans and will be tasked to protect the Turpiz against aircrafts as her AA systems proved to be useful, but on her way to germany she would be spotted and bombed by bombers, she retained heavy damages but she was kept afloat, she gone through repairs and was moured next to the turpitz, on the same day turpiz was bombed, titanic will meet her fate, as 3 bombs hitted straight in the middle of the ship, the titanic will ground on the shallow seabed alongside the Turpiz, after the raid the titanic or whats left of titanic will be towed to france to be scarpped, but luck came to meet her again and as WW2 ended titanic was found aboandon and floating on churbourg with only her upperhull remaining, attempts were made to repair her and turn her into a hotel ship but the world just had bigger problems and she was scarped, she was completely gone by 1949, the last part of her being one of her propllers left in the seabed from the bombing of turpitz and titanic.
😅
"This is my theory."
No, that's your fairytale. A wild one where anything goes.
Tirpitz.
Would the bow section that sank in 1912 not be the only thing left of the Titanic on the bottom of the ocean in this scenario as she sits there today.
yea and sorry if i said tirpitz wrong
To anyone that doesn’t know this game for some reason, this is stormworks
I was so confused when I saw Stormworks as the thumbnail haha
This would have been a museum and an important part in history
The idea of the Titanic (somewhat) surviving the sinking is soo great
This is a concept I’ve wanted to see on RUclips for a long time
Same! Glad we can see it
Thomas Andrew’s even stated the ship could have been split into sections. However because the break wasn’t clean the stern was pulled up and then flooded super fast which is why it’s significantly more damaged than the bow. It’s wild to think that the ship did take 2hr20 to sink when Lusitania and Empress of Ireland sank in 14 and 18 min or even the Britanic which took less than a hour
I love the fact that this is filmed using stormworks
The ship probably would have also been pressed into service by the British Navy in WW1. The same happenned to the Olympic and the Britanic. The Olympic serving as a troop tramsport, the Britanic serving as a hospital ship.
I wonder if the bow would have been found in 1985 if this happened
Imagine
Thomas Andrews himself stated that if the ship were broken up the individual compartments could still float, the only reason the stern went under was because it was pulled down by the bow.
I don't think she would have lived up to her former glory if the stern was intact.
They would rebuild her (knowing the white star line), but in 1914 all hell broke lose in Europe. 9/10 she would have been converted to just another hospital ship (like many liners were) hauling wounded and dead soldiers back home. And then sadly, just forgotten.
I already had a few ideas about what the sinking of the 'Titanic' could look like in a parallel universe, but I wouldn't have come up with an idea like this. 🙂
Great idea 👍🏼 (which could be used for a fanfiction, as after the real story, but then again the question would be who survives and who dies). 🤔
White star line doing suevic move second time:
Yeah lol
If Titanic had broken in two at shallow angle like it was depicted in the 1997 film the stern section would have remained afloat ( assuming all the watertight doors were shut ) but perhaps sitting lower in the water at the break ( then shown in this video ) as the engine room would have been flooded. But this is not how Titanic broke up, her wreck clearly shows lots of crush damage, not a clean tension break ! Suggesting she broke up in compression at a high angle may as much as 90 degrees.
The 90 degree angle would be less likely to break apart as it is vertical it’s more likely it would either sink in one piece or the midsection would crumple in on itself
The titanic broke apart at an angle of 22 degrees, any showing above it is inaccurate as the ship could not withstand the weight of about half the ship out of water in the air above ~20-25 degrees,
@@warriorcatkspfan6985 the angle of 22 degrees would have been enough as the ship was designed to handle extreme stress in the occasion that a rogue wave or rough Atlantic waters and even if the account from life boat would have been very different as the second and first smoke stack wouldn’t have collapsed yet so they would just see three smoke stack quickly submerge and one remaining standing alone.
The 1997 film definitely shows break sitting too high out of the water. Not that a ship couldn't break in pure tension, but given Titanic's weight and balance I would tend to believe it was most likely going to pivot around the engine room and not actually lift that part out of the water.
Not knowing the specifics, but it would have essentially failed much like a box beam in bending. The bottom would be in compression whereas the top would be in tension. Somewhere in the middle (perhaps D-Deck) would be the "neutral axis". Of course further complicating this would be the possibility of some small amount of torsion as well, given that the whole thing most likely wasn't perfectly stable on the keel. This, along with the compression, would have contributed to the shell plating of the stern separating from the ribs of the ship and killing any hopes of anything remaining watertight.
@@sabretooth1997The area where the ship split had a lot of hollowed areas the engines went up to e deck so if the reinforced structure broke quicker and split when the ship was high out the water the compartments may have been able to avoid as much flooding maybe sparing the stern from sinking but it is unlikely
Damn, if only the stern had completely split in half.
Stupid double bottom... It's not like it saved countless of other lives-
White Star Line in this timeline be like: *remembers Suevic* "Ah Crap, Here we go Again."
I wonder if this ever possible.. if they flooded the stern to lift the damaged compartments slightly higher out of the water..
I know she went down to fast to for this to happen.. but still would’ve been amazing..
The weight of the engines could be an issue.
@@gokulgopan4397
Exactly.
They were. When titanic broke in three sections the engines made titanics stern *Way* lower in the water, but those compartments still had air, the broken section began to blood rapidly bringing her back up. Her fate was doomed. Even my theory is bogus I’m just here representing my *”what if”* thing.
That’s the main reason the stern sank, the engines pulling it down leading to the compartments flooding quickly
@@andrewquinn5946
Yes I mentioned that in my previous comment above please take a reading.
Something very similar happened in WW2. The Japanese destroyer Amatsukaze was a very famous ship of the war. Commanded by Tameichi Hara, who wrote his famous book "Japanese destroyer captain" on his war experience, Amatsukaze would see a variable early war career, including helping to sink the submarine USS Perch in the Indian Ocean, and her service in the battle of Guadalcanal where she sank the destroyer USS Barton and helped to sink the light cruiser Juneau, and survived heavy fire from the light cruiser Helena.
On January 16th 1944, Amatsukaze was enroute escorting high speed transports when she was hit by a torpedo fired from the submarine USS Redfin. Amatsukaze was blown in half, and the forward section sank with the loss of 86 men. Her stern was presumed sunk, but amazingly six days later was discovered by Japanese aircraft and towed to Singapore. What was left of Amatsukaze spent nearly the rest of the war there, and was never extensively repaired, only being rigged with a temporary bow in March of 1945 where she attempted to undergo the journey back to mainland Japan, where enroute the next month she was finally finished off by land based US bombers.
One things for sure, the death toll would be way down. Most of the people who died were on the stern when it plunged down.
That’s actually crazy storm works build
Omg
Someone made an alternate history documentary via Stormworks
That’s awesome!
Man this is an awesome video, I love the use of SW for storytelling. As a member of the community, I'd be eager to help with future projects if you ever needed it!
If the stern survived, it would have became a museum, somehow put into a museum, or part hotel part museum. Many more lives would have survived and it would have been the biggest event that would ever, ever happen in marine history. It will be said down from generation to generation.
I don't think they would be particularly pleased to find out their greatest ship snapped in half like a twig
If this happened, it really would've been the first Apollo 13-style of infamous rescues with tense deadlines
Somewhat of the story was confirmed (partially anyway)
Clive Palmer is building Titanic replica called Titanic 2 which is currently to set sale in 2027 if all goes according to plan.
Big issue is they would NOT have sent the Olympic. The idea of sending a ship that was the spitting image of Titanic would've been a PR disaster and many would've refused to board.
This reminds me of RMS Suevic incident
Suevic's bigger sister
There's lots of theories and other opinions about it, but I think it's certainly possible the stern could have rode itself, being that its watertight bulkheads were sealed .
James Cameron and a few other Naval historians have often thought because the break wasn't clean the bow of the Titanic pulled the stern under and later on their descent they detached the exact nature of it can never be known.
However I think it certainly plausible given how the devastated Stern looks like it literally imploded from being crushed by the pressure and if it was still connected to the bow for great duration of time it's plausible no one can disprove it or validate it but I think that is what happened.
Cool that you used stormworks to build and show some history on the titanic!
If it was reborn it’s would have been put in a museum and would have almost become a hotel ship and museum ship at the same time.
My thought being if this did actually occur in the sequence you depict, Titanic would still be considered sunk and the stern would have just been incorporated/retrofitted into and become Britannic. I suppose it would just depend on how badly WSL wanted a 3rd running mate. Given the impending WWI, and assuming this Britannic survives, that probably doesn't happen until after the war. Perhaps they commission a 3rd running mate in the early 1920s, which becomes Majestic, which essentially becomes WSL's own Aquitania.
Great video, also you’re one of the best ship builders in this game! I’m wondering if you’d ever make the symphony of the seas or an oasis class ship I think a LOT of people would enjoy sinking it (c4’s cause the doors no longer work sadly hopefully they get fixed)
This is how that night should have played out seriea of events wise in the 1912
Wait if the stern stayed afloat Thomas Andrews would have survived the sinking because he was last seen in the 1st class smoking room which was located on A Deck of the stern so therefore he would of survived
6:06 I believe it would be put beside to rest with its tender boat SS Nomadic that took it out of port. 7:43 Yes?
More likely to not be script.Seeing the lives it took with it so it's gonna be kept in a type of port museum I feel.
I would see it as unlikely that they would rebuild the bow due to this sheer cost one instead, you can just preserve the stern as a piece of history
More people live the titanic remains could be used for a museum ship or something and we would still get the safety features implemented from the events of the sinking
When it was split in half, some of the boilers were underwater, so the stern wouldn’t survive bc of the water already in the boilers so, it would still sink
I found this video very intresting! The storytelling is also very well made. It would have been very lovely if the Titanic had such a chance to be reborn.
I must admit I have done a lot of research on the Titanic I mean I've always thought about what if a miracle happened and they could have salvaged her and this is very impressive I mean this would change history and I think it could have even been history as we know it
I think the only way the Stern would have a chance to stay afloat is if by some miracle the water tight compartments were still water tight and if the ship broke in half around the 2nd funnel and not the 3rd.
If only.
Sure many people would've still perished, but both White Star Line and Harland & Wolff would have been regarded as being the absolute best in the business.
Imagine not one, but two ships which had been cut in half, but still survived ( Suevic and Titanic )
Nice video.
I can see a scenario where the stern could possibly stay afloat until rescue ships arrived. But, I honestly don't think that she could have withstood being towed all the way back to Belfast. I mean, the hull would've been so compromised that they really would've had no watertight integrity. And, without power there'd have been no way to operate pumps.
Carpathia also couldn't have single-handedly taken all survivors if some 1900-2000 had survived. She simply would not have had space or provisions to make any port. She'd have had to wait for other ships to arrive and then transfer some of the survivors over to them.
Same!!!
Given where Titanic was, I don't think she would've been towed back to Belfast. If y'all recall she was roughly 2 3rds of the way to NYC, thus the closest port would be the BEST option, which the closest port lies within eastern Canada AND New England.
The bottom of the ship was still connected after the split and it pulled the stern down with the 1st half.
What doomed the stern section was the strength of the keel, which continued to pull on the stern to the point of no return until it finally detached. If the watertight compartments were still intact and the keel broke early on, then it is plausible that it might float, but I question the stability of it remaining on an even keel and not have a tendency to roll since the ship is designed to be ballasted as a whole. I agree with another comment that the mass of the engines helped to pull it down.
If this scenario did happen, I think it would be in the best interest to scuttle the stern in place once the survivors are off.
Doing a tow would be a little risk, If they really after safety all they have to do is placing cable cutters in the towing ship, if all goes bad it would not drag the other ship down.
Bizarre to think that all the time later submersibles would still be able to go down and visit her bow as they do to this day, but also know she has been scrapped also.
Not necessarly, This incident would make the titanic famous already, even before it is now with the books and movies.
Olimpic fas not far from being preserved, such an incident would make titanic famous enough that people would preserve it.
Maybe she would be even able to save her sister.
@@venator5 Imagine how popular it would have been if she or Olympic had been turned into a hotel/museum in the drydock in Belfast.
Nice what if video
👋 hi zizzy twins
@@Microphone_man_hendrik Hello
The saddest fact about the Titanic is that it carried no rafts. Older passenger liners always carried rafts, because, if the vessel sank so quickly that there was no time to launch the boats, the rafts would float free. If there had been rafts, many more would have been saved. As to the number of boats - there were twenty. There was room for another sixteen. If these had been provided, while there would not have been time to launch 36 boats, they would have floated free if they had been unlashed in readiness.
“Not to worry, we are still sailing half a ship.”
Second Officer Charles Lightoller was not at the stern. He was actually on upside down lifeboat.
Honestly I see two ways of how this would end up
1. Her sturn would be towed to America *it was closer and thus less costly* and then put into dry dock to help with the investigations and trials that happened afterwards.
Then would be put to be scrapped but then a heritage company would buy her instead and turn the sturn into a museum
2. (Same thing as the 1st up until the scraping part) She would have the extremely damaged parts removed and then dismantled to be brought back to Belfast where the material would be used to quickly finish her sister Brintanic allowing her to have a few months of being a passenger liner before WW1 after that it's either she sinks by a mine or is also turned into a troop ship like Olympic
I dont just think its likely that White Star would have constructed and entire new bow, the damage to the stern was too extensive, its more likely she would be scrapped since there is no way White Star could make a profit from her at that point.
I was thinking the same thing. Using anything from the recovered stern to put into olympic and brittanic.
@@Orly90 Not necessarly. Actually such things happen with ships.
@@venator5 such things like this don’t “just happen to ships” especially ships that were the size of titanic.
If we didn't have a definition for "best case scenario", this would be it.
I doubt they would scrap the ship. I think they would maybe take it back to Belfast and turn it into one of those floating ship museums because of what happened on the maiden voyage
The bow section would have been launched the other way round, just like suevic's new bow was. And the a deck promenade would have been enclosed from the very start
It would be probably be difficult to mount the new bow on the stern part. Also, the merging point would be a probably point of failure.
Is there a working Titanic in this update? On the workshop?
It’s kinda funny seeing 1 and a half of an Olympic class ship.
It would of been cool if this could of happened. But instead of being rebuilt seeing as that would be distasteful to those lost I think the stern should go to a museum.
How did you get the ship to sink? Stormworks has this huge issue right now ow where ships don’t sink.
I imagine that Britannic would be delayed
with parts being taken for titanic.
Same here. Good point. It’s a bit like happened to Titanic after Olympic collided with the Hawk. They used some parts from Titanic to help speed up Olympic’s repairs, and therefore, delayed its maiden voyage
@@lochlanmuir2291 I'm not sure what build state Britannic was in. dose anybody know
@@richardhellawell4596only keel laid up.
@@lochlanmuir2291Olympic only took propeller shaft. Compared to this fictional damage, Olympic's damages were nothing. So lending parts was easy.
In this what if scenario, it's the whole forward half that's needed to be fitted. They would have had dedicated works for Titanic, likely no borrowing. Also, Britannic was only in the very initial stages, only keel laid out.
I think they would haave finished Britannic as she was already under way. Then rebuilt the Titanic after as the new upgraded parts would have been cusom made tto a different design than before.
After such a career i don't think she would be scrapped she would be a lot like Queen Mary and made into a museum ship next nomadic with Olympic and Britannic.
How'd you sink the ship tho? I have a problem in stormworks where huge ships/ocean liners can't sink due to the fluids and gasses update.
I never actually sank it, the stern was spawned in multiple times at angles to get the shots
@@icemonster360 Dang those were good shots also there must be a way to sink them
@@icemonster360 but in a few shots, it showed the bridge submerged.
It would be a cool urbex to watch the half stern left of the titanic if it was abandoned
Well the reason why her stern went down was because it was attached to the bow but it makes the stern goes down even more due to her massive engines
theirs a lot of what ifs about titanic out their but what happened happened and its unrealistic to assume it couldve stayed afloat i saw someone say well if the engines fell out well even if they had that would’ve caused more damage when it split its ripped shell plating off destroyed the ships Skelton and superstructure leave so many places for water and the ship split in one part and cracked in another which is why a section of titanic is gone today the only way it couldve stayed afloat would be if it had been a clean cut that would be boarder line impossible
wouldn't the backup generator still be working? it was on after the ship split.
whats the slipway creation called
Interesting story but a couple of things -
1. WSL currently had Harland And Wolff working on the BRITANNIC.
2. The OLYMPIC would be pulled out of service for Upgrades (due to the TITANIC sinking). These upgrades took (roughly) 6 months to complete. BRITANNIC wasn't far in construction, so upgrading wasn't a problem.
3. In 1914, that's right around the start of WW1. The British government was using any (and all) big liners they could get for Troops and Hospital Ship duties. OLYMPIC was transformed into a Troop Ship, and the BRITANNIC was transformed into a Hospital Ship. TITANIC most likely would've joined her sisters in military duty.
How would this go for a movie named Titanic?
Jack would survive
@@lukeclays9644 definitely but feel like there will be somehow a way for him to die
@@nocando9357he falls off and hits his head or something
@@Spazy912 yea and maybe hits the propeller
If only the creator of the titanic didn’t say God can’t destroy it then the great ship would still be here
Nobody said that, it's an movie thing only.
GOD JESUS THE MOUTH SOUNDS
Glad I’m not the only one who noticed this😭🙏🙏🙏
how in gods name was this done in stormworks
This is realistic
Is possible to sink now titanic in actual stormworks?
No
I actually like this video.
Sameeeed
Whos the workshop creator?
Even if she stayed water tight the stern probably would've capsized being unstable without a bow, eventually sinking.
that and a bad storm rolled in from the east the day after the sinking if the stern did not sink like it did in real life it would have sunk in the storm that rolled in the next day
Good
Logic!
"Oh thank god she's still afloat, and she isn't even listing mu...... hold on wait
wa....... whAT THE ........... HUUUUU?!?"
-Carpathia probably
As a ship guy myself if it stay afloat along time it will disintegrate in the water cause of big waves and storms. And it will not be like possible cause the engine room isn’t working anymore which cause the ship to not move even with a tug boat it will not move cause of the ship not functioning it will stay there for the rest of life the ship will not move cause of the broken engine room,missing bow and no telegraphs to guide there why back to port. With the double keel attached to the stern during the breaking will pull the stern to a angle which causes the stern to sink
I am a big fan of Titanic.
I doubt the Titanic would have been rebuilt, about a third of the ship was directly damaged from the iceberg, Boilers 5 and 6 were flooded along with much of the forward third of the ship.
You mention the Suevic, but the difference is with the Suevic the bow was damaged, but everything else was almost perfectly intact, and salvagers cut the first 40m off. which is where the damage was. When Titanic broke, its bow section was 140m long, nearly the same size as the whole Suevic.
Almost certainly she would have been declared a loss and scrapped for parts for her sister ships
Rip rms titanic
And the ship broke in two before 2nd grand staircase, so everyone could safely move between the decks and marvel the splendor.
:)
I Love it. It was so sad.😭😢
It was!!!