We Were Wrong About Daki
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- Demon Slayer Hinokami Chronicles High Level Gameplay. Welcome back to Wanted! Everyone is saying Daki is one of the worst characters in the game, but someone has something to say about that.
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So basically, anytime the community goes "This character is bad" on Day 1, you know they're going to actually be OP. (Shoutout to the homies Zenitsu, Murata and Akaza.)
Akaza was actually bad tho. Then he got buffed
@@i-divine-u1021 Definitely not as much as people said. Like, he really was considered unplayable. A low-tier sure, but people made it seem like he was a smash bros melee low tier or something.
Same with demon nezuko
@@i-divine-u1021 Nah, Akaza was absolutely solid before the buff. People just didn't want to actually play Akaza's game, so they yelled for buffs and now everyone except Akaza players despises him.
You do realize they buffed akaza right he was bad on release
It'll be a minute, but I can't wait for my boi Kokushibo to drop😈😈
That is very unlikely to happen.
@@Red7924 "It'll be a minute"
This video just solidified that I don't think Daki is necessarily *good* but that she's just better normal Inosuke. Insane guard pressure to the point it almost feels unfair, but she has limited approach options that are very predictable and her ability to make opponent's approach her is awful thanks to her Lvl 1 Dash Speed.
Yeah I saw this video coming
yo who is that third guy :)
Let’s go I’m the twelfth comment
It's a similar situation with Susamaru, everyone was calling her trash till they actually PRACTICED with her.
Exactly I'm sick of ppl doing that without knowing a thing calling a character trash
@@HakuDuhGreat thats how arena fighter players are gonna be
@@SnowYetiOnyx smh ik sadly
@@SnowYetiOnyx isn't that just fighting game players in general?
@@donovanhadley2209 no traditional fgc members wait and find out but make first impressions, arena fighter players are used to if a character is good its insanely OP from the jump so if a character is just good or below they are automatically trash until proven otherwise
Daki only appears rather weak because she doesn't take away 60-80% of your health in just one combo unlike certain characters/assists.
And the fact she gets camped out super easily.
And the fact that she doesn't really have a way to force an opponent to approach her.
And the fact that she doesn't have any way of approaching that doesn't take up a Demon Skill Bar or 2 Bars, but even then one starts a red combo.
She's bottom 3 Demon, but she does well in specific MUs.
@@blackmailed1072 crybaby*
@@sankalpsankrityayan9240 deadass just crying lmao😭
@@blackmailed1072 the fact you don't know how to play effects your assessment
@@JT-km6th These are main points from players in the NA competitive scene, and literally what you can assess in this video.
I love how Lui is always the one to show us that a "weak character" is actually pretty strong/good like how he did with Murata
You always kill me when you say “we” 😂😂
On me I swear I loved Daki from day one; it killed me when people said she was worse than Rui and Yushiro, when I reality she’s better than them both lol
@@Aboobayker funny how you don't even mention yahaba
@@ryanhickson6399 we all know yahaba doesn't exist
@Milanssj exactly
Fr i said day one she swole😭😭
Clicked faster than My father left me
Same, i don't know if i should be happy tho
Dame
tuff
Literally me
BRO I CAN RELATE MY MOM LEFT ME AS SOON AS I WAS BORN
Funny how every dlc character that comes out is instantly considered to be "worst" character ever...
Sad to see this community never learns fr lmao
People usually say that because the character isnt good for conpetitive play until they see them being played competitively. For honor is the same way
@@benstealer7302 they are dumb. It's like they don't know shit and need to put the work in to understand the character.
They did this so many times in this community and its frankly annoying community
Akaza, Yushiro, and Yahaba definitely earned the “worst” titles. The community was only wrong about Daki and maybe nezuko in terms of dlc.
@@terrakage4462 Makomo as well, people said her damage was too low for her to be anything but bottom tier. Must have been everyone's first time playing a fighting game~
@@devilix123987 That wasn’t makomo’s problem anyways (though she does have on average damage). It was that her combos dropped for no reason online. They were very inconsistent in an online environment. Many makomo tournament players have lost entire sets due to a makomo drop happening for no reason. I can’t tell you how many times a makomo dropped a combo on me and I got a full punish when it wasn’t even their fault.
So they were right about her being bad as well. Just didn’t have the right reasons.
I love how when the community says a character is bad day 1 its actually really good and glob makes a "we were wrong about..." video. Happened with murata back in the day now with daki
AND IN BOTH OCASSIONS IT IS WITH LUI OH MY GOD
The only real issue I feel about Daki is her average damage output when fighting other demons her damage looks decent enough but if they start healing or just against higher health characters in general she'll need to land quite a few solid strings to get the kill. That said she's looking quite versatile in those demon matchups. I love seeing airbourne opponent get crush by her "fly swatter". To me I think she fits in a a similar place as Rui on a tier list and can be better or worse based on the matchup.
She's very MU dependent. I don't think Arouf played her MU well, since Enmu should win the MU pretty easily but they made no attempt to adapt to the spamming of "the fly swatter". I'd say she's lower than Rui but higher than Awakened Nezuko & Yushiro.
@@blackmailed1072 I like your perspective on in it. We do have to see how other players fight as or against her for sure, and again to me her damage ain't great, but she seems to offer a unique toolset for the game.
@@Sorryman321 I think her moveset feels clunky since she's so slow, so I'm not too fond of her but I'm glad others enjoy her!
These are great matches. It's just weird to see that nobody wants to use her second demon skill because the OB/ covers so much area, but the second demon skill which a lot of people weren't looking into actually starts a blue combo. She's one of the only demons that can start a blue combo without the Perry mechanic and a lot of people aren't realizing that she can get a crap ton of damage off of that, especially when she's boosted or surged for sure when she surged
I was surprised he wasn’t using that skill either. Especially with a zoner, it also does a ton of block damage if blocked. So even if they block it with a neutral skill and a dash it’ll be broken.
Damn my entire comment has now been validated In your last Daki video.
This is what I've been saying and people need to REALLY STOP calling a character bad or weak on Day 1. It's also annoying people asking for buffs on day 0. When no one understands what makes her tick.
😏👍🏾 I'm happy to be validated
Love it when I’m right about a new character
Honestly it was expected. Her general tools are just so strong. All that was missing was someone to put all of them to good use.
I always new her potential, but you just need to have to put in the effort to make her powerful
I've missed you Globku. I've been so busy with work and traveling and life nonsense that I haven't gotten to watch you in almost A MONTH! The Globku binge is gonna feel great Tonight
I knew this video was dropping 💀 once people learn tech the tier on the character changes because a high player picks them up
I was just waiting for this video to come out 🤷♂️ I’ve seen too many susamaru situations in fighting games to think that a dlc character is low tier. This only goes to show that first impressions aren’t valid in conversation.
I pretty much main Daki now and before watching the video I gotta say she needs two things
Level 2 dash (to confirm that neutral demon skill easier )
more active frames on first square combo hit
lvl 2 dash is more then enough
@@elitarnywojwonikbronzu1173 nah everyone can wake up mash because there are Invincibility frames.Daki can't
Took a while for us to get that Daki combo😅 but still great gameplay from Lui
I wonder why many “low damage” characters get judged too harshly
Funny thing is that it was the opposite with rengoku, he did a lot of damage but he wasn’t as good as people thought he was
I've seen a lot of serious discussion from tournament players in the U.S., it's less about her damage and more of the fact that she gets camped out so easily.
Enmu at-least has projectiles with some even tracking, a decently fast Neutral Demon Skill that's unblockable, a scary as hell grab, and some of the best buttons in the game.
Daki has nothing to approach with outside of an armored Demon Skill (that is fast, don't get me wrong) and a red combo starting, unreliable Tilt Skill that costs 2 bars to be safe.
Daki bottom 3 Demon from what most players describe, but she's not anywhere near Yushiro or Awakened Nezuko levels of bad since her guard pressure is *too* unreal. She's just better normal Inosuke.
I feel they missed out on a massive opportunity with gyutaro and daki combo.
Like they would be like yushiro with switch tech
Id either give them bars like demon slayers
Or have it sepecial where he can spend a demon bar or call an assist. Amd there surge would be tht eye thing for daki
And when gyutaro saves daki its like a counter attack knocking down the opponent and applying a poison.
How about making it not able to kill if countered for balancing
I’d much rather have them separate, gyutaro was so much better than daki imo so im happy they aren’t together, altho them being together in each other’s supers could of been cool
@@breadaholic6445 we could have them as a new character
So gyutaro would still drop
But we would have another dlc with them together
@@darthweebious4604 Fuck that idea completely
@@RoughnutOHoulihan its a goid idea and uk it
If yushiro can have a partner demon
Y not the partner uppermoons
@@darthweebious4604 Yushiro literally fought maybe once in the show, Gyutaro on the other hand has multiple episodes to pull from to make a unique moveset. Why would we need 2 polar opposite characters who have polar opposite moves a duo? That just screams low tier
Cant say i didnt see this video coming
I really love this wanted high level gameplay so entertaining and exciting
I told you all Daki is insane in this game XD
She definitely underrated by many
I Think people forget Daki is uppermoon 6 for a reason
After watching this both live and here again, I still don't think Daki is better than we initially stated. I did mention that her playstyle was going to reward much more patient players, but compared to the rest of the roster she's still lacking in areas that would otherwise make her a better character. With the increased demon healing, that makes her patient play even better. Ultimately, it comes down to a player vs player scenario, which isn't specifically saying "Daki is OD". It's saying the player is strong and understands how to use her to win. I'd still prefer speed or range enhancements to her kit, personally.
Mediocre character imo, Arouf simply didn't look prepared against Daki as he was forgetting plus frames certain moves have. Also Susamaru isn't a perfect matchup imo as she can't use piercing kick too much. Characters like Water Tanjiro that deal lot's of damage and take little usually work well because every punish in his favour is worth 2 punishes from Daki + switch tech
i need to learn the matchup and take my revenche against lui,but he played well
@@aroufleouf1011 Of course of course
I win a lot with Daki people don’t realize how big 🍒 and
I told everyone daki was super strong and everyone in your stream and comments said cap. Nice to see that I was right again and everyone was wrong again. Lol
I knew she wasn’t bad to begin with. She wasn’t broken in the show and realistically was just a slightly above average demon for non hashira. Idk why y’all expect her to be a powerhouse.
Cough susamaru Cough
this community judges things too early….
As soon as I practiced with her I knew she would be a problem because of guard damage and reset capability’s. She is good for sure but doesn’t really have a way against range demons but that’s just a minor problem to deal with.she is definitely A tier or maybe even S tier for me.( by the way this was before watching the vid)
Did you not just watch the vid? She can handle range characters. If on the floor they can get hit by tilt demon skill, if in the air, demon skill hits well. Also tilt skill is a great quick approach tool.
She has the tools, now you just need to use your skills to make them work, she won't do a 60% combo.
@@JT-km6th bro did you not read the comment this was before watching the vid lol
@@rokuslayer278 Started reading and saw you waffling so didn't continue, my bad. 😂
Regardless, all you need to do is to play the character and you would know. Do you have in-game experience or you just going off what other people said on drop?
@@JT-km6th no I have in- game experience I’ve been playing for a while. Plus I did say that the range demons would be a minor problem but that’s about it. I already know how strong she is. Also no need to apologize it was a mistake
I’d honestly reserve judgment until I see daki vs slayer teams.
Cuz I feel like that’s where the cracks will show
am i the only one that hates watching enmu and susamaru players its such a boring playstyle
Same it's so boring to watch I don't see how people have fun using them
Clicked faster than i lose in online
I can't wait for Gyutaro
Same to be honest
Is that the Grand Catherderal bgm from Skullgirls at the beginning? If so. Thats class.
*You Were Wrong About Daki
Globku, You thought Daki was weak. We have been trying to tell you she's not
😶🌫️
Wow didn’t see that coming 😮
Here i am sitting wondering if globku is going to to make a daki vid soon, and low and behold there it is
When a character in a fighting game doesn’t do a 60-80 dmg combo, “THIS CHARACTER IS THE WORST NEVER USE THEM!”
I fuckin love when the non campy character times out the camper in any fighting game that shit is so funny and so deserved. Popped off so hard and I haven't watch / played demon slayer in MONTHS.
It’s always “we were wrong about X” of course y’all were. Y’all like judging without even exploring their options
Idk who "we" is, us Rui mains knew what she was about 😂
Like how inosuke with a lvl 1 dash speed was trash, this community is very bad at judging a character's ability.
I think Daki is ok but still not great. I understand people are getting all happy now but just because there is time in a character and a few people do good doesn’t make the character good. Daki still has bad damage, horrible range besides one attack that is definition of hit or miss and her attacks all feel like combo finishers. It feels like if you do a combo it one does no damage and 2 is hard to start one since she’s basically a walking combo finisher.
I would put her at High C Tier or low B tier hot take I know but at least for me Daki doesn’t respond to me well. Although I believe she is stronger than Yushiro.
I don't play this game because I hate all the zoning demons so much. Zoners usually are annoying but they feel a lot worse in this game specifically for some reason. Susamaru especially just sucks out all the fun in the game for me.
You have toE be good with daki to play her like daki isn't a ranged charichter but enmu can be a ranged charichter daki more is an pusher you have to push with daki you can't stay at range
Hope they add Gyuutaro and then Mitsuri, Tokito, Genya, the Upper moons once Season 3 comes out
Where can i watch the entire stream? I've checked your twitch, youtube, second youtube and i can't find it anywhere
Daki was obviously very good day one. Your silly if you thought otherwise
She's okay, nothing special. She's just better normal Inosuke. Bottom 3 Demon.
@@blackmailed1072 your way off, maybe you just arent good with her? Who knows but she’s definitely up there
@@jaioncebollero1168 She has a lot of weaknesses and a lot of strengths. But everybody seems to focus on one or the other, characters can have both. She's nothing special because these weaknesses are pretty damaging for this particular game but her strengths are also really good for this game. She has nothing to really push her over the edge compared to other Demons outside of ridiculous guard pressure so she's just okay. In-fact she has a lot of weaknesses that Demons *don't* want because of their lack of assists and she doesn't have the tools effective to counterbalance these horrible weaknesses (inability to approach, inability to force opponent to approach, lack of solid neutral tools that don't rely on Demon Meters or 2 bars of Meter, et cetera).
I will admit I'm not good at her, because I don't try to play her since I find her super clunky because of her slow speed. I'm looking at everyone else's opinions in the NA scene and also generally doing some Training with two controllers as a way to gauge how good she really is.
This might be another zenitsu situation
yall r so quick to call things bad within the 1st hour of it being released smh I knew this was coming
700 views in 6 minutes already lmao
Someone get Lui to play Skullgirls so he understands what a good reset is…
If a character can't do 55% in one combo they are bad in the demon slayer community.
Does this dude arouf only play with toxic characters? I'm glad he lost, he also played toxic af, just running for the whole damn game.
That's how you play Enmu though. Doesn't matter what you think if he plays the character right
@@RoughnutOHoulihan That's always such a lame excuse. You can choose to be a coward or actually fight. No character justifies running like a b. They're OP af, just using them is already cowardly enough, playing the catch me game is just too much.
@@Rand-wr3tl My man is playing a zoner. You want me right in your face all the time while playing a character that's supposed to do the exact opposite? If you're bad and can't beat a zoner just say that.
@@RoughnutOHoulihan Lol imagine being a demon player thinking he is good, pretty crazy. I beat most demons, it doesn't mean i don't see how op they are. On the opposite side, there's people like you, that Main demons or zenitsu thinking they're good cause they win lmao
@@Rand-wr3tl I main Yushiro and side main Sabito/Urokodaki. He's good at the character because he plays them right.
She is my one true love ❤😊 to be with her would make my day 🤤 ❤❤😊
This video would be a lot better if there wasn't an ad literally every two minutes.
She takes turns kinda easy, but I don't think she's THAT amazing, yet
She is more than THAT amazing
@@ogabrielsabadin in other ways
“This is grampa speed”😭😭gotta love Traitor
Correction, YOU were wrong about Daki
I am supposed to learn this is good from gameplay how?
Daki was able to bet one of the strongest demon so alot of people was wrong about her
Wait u guys didn’t think she wasn’t cancer on day 1?
*they called me mad man* yee i should change nick for that xD
when could demons fight with other characters
saw the tod yesterday knew this video was coming out
oh man that first Enmu player was annoying
Is there a way I could enter these tournaments??
All of your Wanted videos on RUclips are gone! D:
Why? I miss watching them! ;^;
YES SHOW THEM THEY ARE WRONG HAHA DAKI QUEEN IS GOOD
I was waiting for this vid knew it was coming w
My text list I think Dali is in the I did not buy tier
Infiltration Complete 😎
The thing with Daki is… I can’t play her or play against her when my parents is home 😬
Ong
OWN IT, when they look, do a 120 head spin and stare until they go away
You play in the living room or something
@@Uncharted8907 no my room. But my mom could come in any time
@@Kysmonkeyslave is your tv facing your wall or the door
I should watch the show, because rn Idc
Bro how lui was playing towards the end that’s how someone was playing me even time I can close they used an invincible move with her every time I beat him 2 -1 outta the whole set and 3-0 him one round but I was heated
I feel like the reason why ppl called daki trash in the beginning is because y'all already didn't like her in the show so when she came out in the game y'all were already expecting her to be bad and when ppl played as her they didn't practice with her well enough so y'all automatically tired to push her aside as a trash character. Basically y'all didn't know how to play as her and tried to ride the hate train until you couldn't anymore.
I love Lui's name, because Is Just "he" (the pronoun) in italian. So yeah is just some guy i guess
Daki huh? I click
I knew this vid was coming 😆
Been using Daki since she dropped
Is that pirate warriors 3 music?
i believe that was abad match up for daki xD both enmu and susamaru
i don't think she is top
but she is not bad! not by a long shot!
Hearing speed or sound from pirate warriors 2 ( or welcome to the new world im not sure which) made me smile, got to much memories. please use tht more
In what world was she ever bad??
another "(we) were wrong video"
OMG!!! Without joking, i think that i'm stronger than LUI.
No
Here i am sitting wondering if globku is going to to make a daki vid soon, and low and behold there it is
Where can I watch this wanted?
It’s a akaza situation I feel
No akaza really was very very weak but he got buffed to an obsurd degree which boosted him from bottom 3 to number 1
Any idea if this game will be getting more DLC?
I hope Daki gets some buffs cause she's fun to watch when she gets comboing
Lui brings the best out of the worst characters and makes them actually good
It’s still a dogshit character you just gave it to a good player (atleast that’s how I see it)
She's a good character in general but she's even better in the right hands