The editor showing the abilities you're referring to is so insanely helpful. I've seen other youtubers make videos and just not do that, and sometimes it's for games where it's hard to look that up without launching the game.
I saw a Legion doing this against our Medusa. Just to say Medusa ended the game with 124 duel damage. She freaking carried and did a comeback, and at the end of the game she tipped LC.
You can easily fix this by hero target priority. Sometimes dueling pos1 is really not best option. If you kill support before the fight start thats good enough. Supports dont have enough items to survive your duels anyway. Many lc player think they need to solo hunt the enemy but if you play with team kill the support ASAP(assuming you win) reset for a sec and let your pos1 fight. You can support him by using press attack. If enemy collide to eachother. Dagger in and use your Q. Thats how you win a fight using LC
Axe; In legend and below MMR you gotta rush bracer, bracer, blink, blademail. SK; for the OG's, play him like you used to five years ago, wait, then blink in and wipe, easy MMR.
I am suprisd he didnt mention abaddon with his revised intate ability. Ive dota 2 pro tracker and its been pretty solid! Hm am i missing something here?
I have games like this. So what i did is i build helm instead aghs. The thing about aghs is it need alot of gold to purchase it. You can easily get it by killing stack camp but as you said your team got stomped and you cant help it because you need your primary item. If you have helm usually in 8mins. No carry can fight you and eventually it lead to destroying tower and now you dominate the lane, can steal enemy camp for your aghs or helm 2 and most important It will give space to your team because they will try to kill but you are strong enough to fight 3 hero if you have support with you.
Them being universal has very little to do with how strong they are, for offlaners. The auras, the 5 man deathball, the strong (counter) initiations, all those things aren't related to universal damage gain. I'd even argue the aura items, having next to no stats, hold back the universal heroes.
@mikemike6182 bro I tell you the truth I typed my comment, went to the RUclips home page and the first row of recommended videos was a 7.37b pro pango match from yesterday.
A bit too niche, hero has always been strong to some degree or the other but he's rarely popular. I'm missing a mention on Earthshaker myself but I know he's not that hot at higher tiers of play, despite strong facets.
rant about various things you said -------------------------------------------------------- rip tide :( wish i could play him again pudge E duration nerf effect was overly exaggerated in my opinion safety bubble dusa sounds so sick very rough on nightstalker when enemy 5 mans, but he is still amazing with his offered vision and aoe silence and what about pickoffs? don't disrespect my boy! for death prophet, maybe only in the higher ranks the new facet is very important? playing timber feels like being terminator in many games, its awesome weird for me to hear the lategame sandking is good, I often theorized him as being bad at scaling the razor facet buff is so understated. from 3 second cooldown to 0.5 cooldown and hit EVERYONE near him. THATS A MASSIVE CHANGE ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- there a big 5 man and aura focus in this review, I would like to hear your opinions about games where the picks don't point to that direction as much (what is good then?) thank you for your content, I consider it dearly in my builds and picks
Why no Wraith King?? I play him offlane. You have a stun, good farming with your skeletons and you can build auras along with your aghs helping team fights
I was expecting to see Lone Druid in any tier of that list. Any thoughts on that? Since the new facet ''Bear Necessities'' came out i'm having a good 70% win rate with Lone Druid offlane. Am i the only one?
The veno nerf killed me. I finally had a viable pos3 veno after so long. But yeah like you said I've swapped that strat to 4 and i can jungle pipe greaves under 20 minutes and just proceed to win every game. Let my pos3 go pure tank or core items.
Kunkka on D tier is a travesty (he currently has 52% winrate on volume in dotaprotracker) I've been winning quite a lot with him. Your X fucks a lot of meta heroes with scapes, you deal a ton of damage in teamfights, and you are very hard to burst with his innate.
Haven’t seen any of the s tier offlane in a bit. Last time I saw an enigma I had a pa in my lane and she just murdered him. Side note i swear randomly I can’t ult with witchdoctor sometimes. It’s targeting is a bit Jank it doesn’t always auto target creeps and it’s failed twice now when I ult in mars ult it just doesn’t actually attack for some reason no idea why.
I love doom though. I have positive winrate on him. I like him so much as a hero, i've created my own item build, but i might change it in the future bcs of the patches
@JENKINS - Hey, I'm a herald, but I am also an analyst in real life. Sand King is S tier atm with Shivas guard because of the debuff to magical, aghs shard, and aghs scepter because of the aoe from his ulti. The sand shroud is good, but the one that follows you is better for farming. If you reach t5 neutrals, Giants ring is broken. Get 2x heart on sk with shivas, blink, aghs, & boots of travel. if you stand on an enemy whilst invis, it does 100% of your strength modifier per second as damage. so if you have 250 str, you do 250 damage per second. This is very powerful with an enigma ulti, or a dark seer vacuum. I'd say I'm mainly herald though because I team with my deaf friend who is herald 2, he doesn't understand this stuff, so I'm happy to play just to play with him, and also Herald is funny! 5vs5 mid is never seen except in herald.
Except that you don’t normally get to T5 items. And you don’t normal farm using your sandstorm, it is better to use the sting something skill. Lower cd & mana Most of my match is around 30-38 minutes. Ancient 3
When he says "if you're a good wyvern player", you better believe that if you're actually good wyvern player you can dominate games pretty well. Not recommended to people who don't know how to play wyvern properly.
I have been grinding out sk off lane for the past few days. It almost doesn't even seem to matter what you build because he is able to farm so quickly anyways. I've done aghs, shivas, bloodstone. I've done aghs, daedelus, skadi. They all kind of just win from being so far ahead.
@@x3gxu Dust devil, stinger, and caustic finale. Walk up to a wave with dust devil sandstorm going, just stinger it once, you'll get the entire wave as you walk past it. Same can be said for most jungle camps. You don't actually have to sit still to farm really much of anything, you can usually just keep moving to the next camp/wave. Even something like ancients is very quick to farm once you have stinger maxed out alongside sandstorm.
It's almost like they actively nerfed Tidehunter in a patch that gave some heroes effectively free Aghs sceptres built in, and then refuse to actually fix him, no wonder he's shit
please upload supports asap. i am losing games. thanks
Just instalock Nyx Assassin every game and build dagon. You might not win but at least you'll have fun.
@@SenorKrautwhat in the andrew tate lvl bs is this.
just pick ringmaster ✅
@@SenorKrautu are cooked bro
Play abaddon, get holy locket > aether lens > Agha > Octarine core every game. Win 100%
The editor showing the abilities you're referring to is so insanely helpful. I've seen other youtubers make videos and just not do that, and sometimes it's for games where it's hard to look that up without launching the game.
I’ve been spamming LC, stomping lane and first 20 minutes, then getting cocky and throwing the game by trying to solo their carry over and over
tale as old as time
Literally every LC player. Nothing new.
no matter how many damage diff i have against their carry, it's either draw or win for some reason at late game 😂
I saw a Legion doing this against our Medusa. Just to say Medusa ended the game with 124 duel damage. She freaking carried and did a comeback, and at the end of the game she tipped LC.
You can easily fix this by hero target priority. Sometimes dueling pos1 is really not best option. If you kill support before the fight start thats good enough. Supports dont have enough items to survive your duels anyway. Many lc player think they need to solo hunt the enemy but if you play with team kill the support ASAP(assuming you win) reset for a sec and let your pos1 fight. You can support him by using press attack. If enemy collide to eachother. Dagger in and use your Q. Thats how you win a fight using LC
20:10 Dauntless working against Illusions was considered a bug and was subsequently removed.
wtf, that innate might as well not exist then
My poor boi Tide in the bottom rungs 😞
Tide and Necro are my go to offlaners :(
wish I could play him more :/
Tide has ridiculous mana issues
I still win games with him in my bracket because I played so much with him.
He just sucks against virtual any carry now
so basically, every offlaner is unkillable with 3 bracers and some are just better at it, what a time to be alive :,)
The editor working overtime. Much appreciated👍
Dawnbreaker W should count as autotack, procking attack modifiers like Basher, Skadi, Mage Slayer ect
Maybe as a faucet
Axe; In legend and below MMR you gotta rush bracer, bracer, blink, blademail. SK; for the OG's, play him like you used to five years ago, wait, then blink in and wipe, easy MMR.
Bloodseeker is probably worst carry matchup for wind ranger. Can’t cs, can’t harass enough, and the rupture destroys you.
you just go mael linkens on wr and then the bs is a melee creep
@@mildads1581 this makes me think you haven’t played the matchup.
I've been doing bloodstone+shard on axe for a while, and i thought it was stupid but like secretly good. Funny to see its becoming meta.
Holy shit the production value on the intro
Andrew "Big Dictus" Jenkins is making making 6 figures daily
R.i.p. my [Gamer Word] OP Nightstalker., you’ll be missed.
I am suprisd he didnt mention abaddon with his revised intate ability. Ive dota 2 pro tracker and its been pretty solid! Hm am i missing something here?
No stun
I'm a beast master spammer, my problem with the hero is that I just farm until i get aghs, my team gets stomped, and the game becomes unwinnable
well u r just stupid
I have games like this. So what i did is i build helm instead aghs. The thing about aghs is it need alot of gold to purchase it. You can easily get it by killing stack camp but as you said your team got stomped and you cant help it because you need your primary item. If you have helm usually in 8mins. No carry can fight you and eventually it lead to destroying tower and now you dominate the lane, can steal enemy camp for your aghs or helm 2 and most important It will give space to your team because they will try to kill but you are strong enough to fight 3 hero if you have support with you.
shaker anybody??? man...
Always good to have the blink + well placed fissure combo if they can't escape it, having a team to follow up etc.
Gee a bunch of universal heros at the top, i wonder if that change to dota was a mistake considering wr and mirana are op now too. :thinking:
Them being universal has very little to do with how strong they are, for offlaners. The auras, the 5 man deathball, the strong (counter) initiations, all those things aren't related to universal damage gain. I'd even argue the aura items, having next to no stats, hold back the universal heroes.
Earthshaker not even mentioned? That seems odd.
POS 4 next!
My spidey sense says Valve has a buff for Pango in their back pocket waiting for the middle of TI qualifiers.
And hopefully a nerf for pudge
No, pango always good from mid & competitive game.
But don't play offlane, go carry or mid
@@mikemike6182pango carry lolololololol
@mikemike6182 bro I tell you the truth I typed my comment, went to the RUclips home page and the first row of recommended videos was a 7.37b pro pango match from yesterday.
@@Stealth-16 yes ignore this troll, he don't play carry, if u got friend to play tinker or sven support in lane, game will end in 20min
Where's my boy Elder Titan? 😭
He so trash he was forgotten on the list
REAL
A bit too niche, hero has always been strong to some degree or the other but he's rarely popular. I'm missing a mention on Earthshaker myself but I know he's not that hot at higher tiers of play, despite strong facets.
@@Detrebio slugger is so much fun now
Move CW to S, Underlord A or B depending on team comps, move Enigma to D
kiss me jenkins
Thank you very much!
You should do a tier list comparison with BSJ, your lists conflict somewhat. He said that DK is good in this patch.
Caution: the list doesn’t work in guardian and lower rank. Guarantee from a guardian himself 😂.
i have suggestion faceless void timezone pos 3 its good . 4.6k to 5.5k. just give it a try.
Cant play carry with my dog teammates. Might switch to offlane, or kill myself
Can't believe that my boy Sladar when down so much....well we all have out time :C
JENKINS I REMEMBER WHEN YOU USED TO BEG PEOPLE TO FOLLOW YOUR CHANNEL SO YOU WILL BE ABLE TO PAY RENT,LOOK AT YOU NOW
Jenkins looks like a 90s grunge musician that just started heroine
Bristleback still stomps pubs at the guardian level.
BRO PUTS PUDGE D TIER LMFAO EVEN AT BAD DAYS PUDGE IS PUDGE BRO THATS Y HE,S DOTA MOST PLAYED HERO
Abaddon is so slept on.
Where is night stalker? I've been winning so many games with him in divine tier
Sk and axe seems to be my go to heroes on the current patch. Sucks that they always get banned.
Do you guys replace blade with heart late game for axe?
Razor as a offlane is pretty good but the problem is in early stages where he practically has no dmg
need that herald review right now
if you get lucky and spot a good draft to pick enigma into it's literally a guaranteed win i think my winrate on him this patch has been around 70-80%
Don't agree with Magnus. Still strong.
Chaos Knight, Monkey King and Ember Spirit are all either A or S tier right now as well.
rant about various things you said
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rip tide :( wish i could play him again
pudge E duration nerf effect was overly exaggerated in my opinion
safety bubble dusa sounds so sick
very rough on nightstalker when enemy 5 mans, but he is still amazing with his offered vision and aoe silence and what about pickoffs? don't disrespect my boy!
for death prophet, maybe only in the higher ranks the new facet is very important?
playing timber feels like being terminator in many games, its awesome
weird for me to hear the lategame sandking is good, I often theorized him as being bad at scaling
the razor facet buff is so understated. from 3 second cooldown to 0.5 cooldown and hit EVERYONE near him. THATS A MASSIVE CHANGE
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there a big 5 man and aura focus in this review, I would like to hear your opinions about games where the picks don't point to that direction as much (what is good then?)
thank you for your content, I consider it dearly in my builds and picks
non auras and 5 manning - LC, windranger, even axe to some extent and primal beast(I think so atleast)
@@WilldroydI definitely like Axe and LC, but they are also in the A Tier so that doesn't make much difference
you hunt down primal beast or what is tha on your neck ?
Why no Wraith King?? I play him offlane. You have a stun, good farming with your skeletons and you can build auras along with your aghs helping team fights
I was expecting to see Lone Druid in any tier of that list. Any thoughts on that? Since the new facet ''Bear Necessities'' came out i'm having a good 70% win rate with Lone Druid offlane. Am i the only one?
"Medusa is on C tier cause she's a C creature"
The veno nerf killed me. I finally had a viable pos3 veno after so long. But yeah like you said I've swapped that strat to 4 and i can jungle pipe greaves under 20 minutes and just proceed to win every game. Let my pos3 go pure tank or core items.
Every time i see sandking with bloodstone, its useless.
When they go dagger fast, its op as shit
Of course S tier offlaner would be sniper with 2 rapiers
Since Manny melee carrys are online , I think this is a great patch to play Dead prophet just buy Atos , treats and attack speed
This makes a lot of sense dude. Guys, definitely do this
You're actually right but i found more value on Arcane boots + Vanguard or Pipe and then Greaves.
9:39 half of a second later you said it
Kunkka on D tier is a travesty (he currently has 52% winrate on volume in dotaprotracker) I've been winning quite a lot with him. Your X fucks a lot of meta heroes with scapes, you deal a ton of damage in teamfights, and you are very hard to burst with his innate.
Where was ES
Rly no clock? Thats a good offlane
Haven’t seen any of the s tier offlane in a bit. Last time I saw an enigma I had a pa in my lane and she just murdered him.
Side note i swear randomly I can’t ult with witchdoctor sometimes. It’s targeting is a bit Jank it doesn’t always auto target creeps and it’s failed twice now when I ult in mars ult it just doesn’t actually attack for some reason no idea why.
I love doom though. I have positive winrate on him. I like him so much as a hero, i've created my own item build, but i might change it in the future bcs of the patches
forgot aba
i love abrupt endings.
Earthshaker not even on the list?
WHERE IS ELDER TITAN JENKINS???
Abaddom? I spam this hero
Jenkins you have great lists my dude. Looking good too and I hope you're in good health :)
Off topic but what hair products do you use Jenkins? Your hair looks amazing
I've had success with DK frost dragon offlane (3-0 with it this patch)
Wheres my boy lone druid
69944 Carolyn Isle
What facet on SK to go with?
@JENKINS - Hey, I'm a herald, but I am also an analyst in real life.
Sand King is S tier atm with Shivas guard because of the debuff to magical, aghs shard, and aghs scepter because of the aoe from his ulti. The sand shroud is good, but the one that follows you is better for farming. If you reach t5 neutrals, Giants ring is broken. Get 2x heart on sk with shivas, blink, aghs, & boots of travel. if you stand on an enemy whilst invis, it does 100% of your strength modifier per second as damage. so if you have 250 str, you do 250 damage per second. This is very powerful with an enigma ulti, or a dark seer vacuum.
I'd say I'm mainly herald though because I team with my deaf friend who is herald 2, he doesn't understand this stuff, so I'm happy to play just to play with him, and also Herald is funny! 5vs5 mid is never seen except in herald.
Except that you don’t normally get to T5 items. And you don’t normal farm using your sandstorm, it is better to use the sting something skill. Lower cd & mana
Most of my match is around 30-38 minutes.
Ancient 3
C creature lol, i see you bro
I see shaker sometimes even in high mmr pubs, strange jenkins haven't included it
When he says "if you're a good wyvern player", you better believe that if you're actually good wyvern player you can dominate games pretty well. Not recommended to people who don't know how to play wyvern properly.
How do you play Wyvern though? My role is usually POS5 and I'm struggling on how to use her..
kunka D, are you insane ?
Life is abrup.
Timber is good actually. You just go kaya + pipe and that's it.
I have been grinding out sk off lane for the past few days. It almost doesn't even seem to matter what you build because he is able to farm so quickly anyways. I've done aghs, shivas, bloodstone. I've done aghs, daedelus, skadi. They all kind of just win from being so far ahead.
Why does he farm fast? Dust devil facet?
@@x3gxu stinger
@@x3gxu Dust devil, stinger, and caustic finale. Walk up to a wave with dust devil sandstorm going, just stinger it once, you'll get the entire wave as you walk past it. Same can be said for most jungle camps. You don't actually have to sit still to farm really much of anything, you can usually just keep moving to the next camp/wave. Even something like ancients is very quick to farm once you have stinger maxed out alongside sandstorm.
where's Slark?
Tide is tankyy
Where is my boi clock and earth spirit 😭😭😭
Earthshaker worth playing in offlane?
medusa tier higher than kunkka is wild
Centarwarruner ?
How do you counter slarks counters
Dawnbreaker's "Break of dawn" also works after Luna's and NS's ults end. So she may be considered as kind of situational pick.
Dark Seer ❤
silabear?
I just gotta say that I think Tide is super legit as a pos 4
Jerkings is that a sharktooth necklace
Sandstorm talent isnt 10, its level 15.
Thought Marci was fairly popular 3 recently?
Thats a cool necklace, that a real tooth?
Where’s sniper ?
i watched half the video before is saw the tooth
It's almost like they actively nerfed Tidehunter in a patch that gave some heroes effectively free Aghs sceptres built in, and then refuse to actually fix him, no wonder he's shit
They split his passive into it and the Innate, so he doesn't get an Innate where as others did
POG
what about undying?
Is mirana a good offlane pos 4?
What about phoenix?
in legend/ancient rank i go dagon bs and always every game everyone gets upset!!
because its grief
How DARE they nerf my Venge