@@JB-nd1sj Once they took his AOE goo, he went from my perennial second favorite hero to off my roster entirely. This shit here was just piling on, and in the same patch they ruined the ONE hero I liked better than him, so I almost took him off too. I might just quit DOTA at this point.
Just a correction about venge, the melee facet gives her the melee benefits from every item EXCEPT vanguard. Basher works, phase works, lance of pursuit works, skadi treats her like melee, etc. She also doesn't get the innate damage block melee heroes get just fyi.
Im a level 30 darkseer, he has been a huge hero since normal punch was released, i felt like his only weakness was the laning so just getting free attack spees for easier denies and last hits is just insane
have you tried buying armlet on dark seer (before the 1 -> 0.5 AS from int nerf)? I think it was very OP, huge kill potential + survivability, and a lot of AS from nothing
Why do people still give the hero level? It was the same with the crusader guy that was level 30 on a hero and told everyone in the comments how wrong they are.
Have you encountered offlane Elder Titan? I play him a lot and he seems pretty good if the enemy team doesn't have heroes with purge to get rid off astral spirit buff, or Viper(all melee heroes have an issue dealing with Viper imo)
There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.
Abaddon sucks as a core now. I think WW was strong at the start of the patch, but now that they've nerfed the range so much, she's not that good of a core anymore.
I would just like to point out that there is potential for bristle as a crowd control pos 4/5 hero with the goo facet. He has 87% MS and -27 armour on max stacks lvl 4 goo with this facet. I've had great success laning with PA/riki etc who have excessive physical damage and jump potential. The hero can stand at the front and take up space, and soak more damage than regular supports even with no items, and doing so usually puts 4-6 stacks of goo on everything behind him. Heroes in the offlane that have no escape can seriously be run down at levels 1-3 insanely hard. Heroes like Doom/Pudge/Axe simply cannot cope with the minus armour
I am kind of a bb spammer. Climbed to 5500 mmr from 3200 mmr in 4 months since new year with only bb. Bristle is still playeble in my opinion but i have around 50% winrate and gained only 200 mmr since 7.36, and all of it in past week, before that i was stuck. Berserk facet provides same gameplay as old bristle, he has same immortality from behind with bloodstone. But i can't hunt supports in midgame with 500 damage if they survive aghs, my damage with aghs and bloodstone is way lower (On the better side bb is now good against undying and phoenix). Also heroes like axe, lc and sd (with aghs) are very good against bristle, and very popular. I see a lot of tinkers also and bristle strugles against him.
I've been spamming Abbadon quite a lot recently, with the better shield facet. It feels really strong in lane and also in the late game I'm so hard to kill and deal a shit ton of damage with radiance and the reflection from the shield. How do you guys feel about it? Haven't seen him before today. Played with and against him in like 5 games or something today. lol.
yeah as someone who doesnt play the game anymore, I love these cause they summarize the game design and updates and arent overencumbered with meme edits and fake hype
Just lost to a centaur who had two bracers and rushed Heart Of Tarrasque. He died once trying to fight before he got it since he had no other items, but it was ridiculously worth it for him during 16mins he gets heart, runs fast asf, can't die, has high dps and doesn't need blink anymore.
Yep i had bristle offlane who picked goo level 1 and proceeded to get absolutely steamrolled and feed the whole game. Didnt even know what to do level one since he was a creep that doesnt scale.
I remember playing night stalker with the reversed day-night facet with a friend playing IO, the amount of attack speed and damage i had in early levels was just crazy, the enemy carry couldn't do anything
Before I had the same thought as you regarding lycan but 2nd facet is better especially for an off laner because when wolves expire he gets healed for that amount, meaning if he has mana he has a great sustain for entire laning stage. As for ck again 2nd facet is better perfect for those with a gambling addiction
I think it's better you make a clip of you playing the hero while you explain and you as a professional player should be able to play the hero's you say the best "_____" of 7.36b
Where's clockwerk? Since 7.36 I've been doing clock off and almost every game I'm doing so much impact. I've been watching the qualifiers and clock is in 80% of the games as either off or support. I prefer him as offlane/tanky/disruption.
centa probably the one annoying piece of offline, its really hard to kill in lane unless you got ursa/ tb meta off cd work everytime most of the time, and hard to win/stomp lane without those 2 carries just pick m.speed facet buy 3/4 bracer and get like 1.2-1.4k hp before 5 minutes while have +10 hp regen and low cd nuke, good luck laning with him, not mentioning support behind that horse while balanar laning is huge now, the hero is fine if 1 of your core are not countered/ can do fine againts him but if he was niche last pick, well the game probably over before 25 min
idk what are you talking about gigtreants, these mfs destroy towers like crazy. T2 towers fall at 15 min consistently. I'm 7k mmr 4 pos, stole NP from vaniLLl1, he's having 70% wr on 11k
Death prophet is definitely better than C tier offlane. Her laning is very strong and she can go multiple different builds, usually shiva rush and then max tanks or she can now go for more of a semi carry build with like AC and aghanim with the attack speed talent. Octarine core also very strong on her with scaling CD reduction
I play nightstalker a lot, even before these facets, I think facet 1 is better. the real benefit of nighttime right now is the passive, then the vision, then the regen, in that order. at lvl 1, you get no benefit of the passive, thats like 1 minute with no benefit lvl 2 you put a point, its value lvl 1 is not that high, but ill admit it helps. by minute 5, there is a real window where you are not lvl 6, but its day time, and the enemy can punish you harder than he could if you were all lvl 1, because they got spells and lvls. often at lvl 1 day time, you take advantage of his high damage and focus on CS, and the threat the enemy can put on you with lvl 1 spells is usually not too much. TLDR I always thought his laning is decent anyway because of his high base stats and that early on [first 5 minutes] there is not too much going on in terms of threat unless the enemy has a veno or something like that, so I pick facet 1
WHERES MY VISAGE AT?! D tier 😅 I know I’m biased because I’m the only visage player in existence but I have great success with him in all matchups. I find a way. Edit: I’d put Visage in a solid high B or low A because of his facet that gives his grave chill an aoe and he gains 25% of the attack speed from secondary affected units which gives him much better farming speed, pushing speed, and sometimes in fights you slow extra people. And now his familiars can stone form while they are stunned which is really underrated. Previously axe could kill your familiars for free but now you just stun him and waste his time. Also, the other facet “faithful followers” is completely garbage so never ever take it unless it gets a huge buff Edit 2: I expect a full video on visage after this… lol
Nooo, shhhh, visage is shit and valve for sure does not need to nerf it so we can keep spamming him and gain free mmr. So let's all agree that he's D tier despite 55% overall wr on sepulchre and never talk about him again, alright?
omni knight kisses his opponent just to attack, then put's hes only single target nuke, to melee, look out how they murder my boy, no other facet or talent, that can extend the range, ffs, or maybe add a kotl treatment wherein his hammer of purity became a long range cast, if in guardian angel or repel. he's now a walking single target meka and crimson guard, with a bkb on the side
The reason Omni is bad is bc the shard got completely changed. you used to be able to get 2 hammers in, one for the spell and one for the on-hit effect. now its just 1 hammer.
the list is so wrong. visage and beastmaster should at least be B tier if not A. Axe, Slardar B tier but pudge and primal is A lmao. And ns is nowhere near S tier probably B tier only. Only S tier hero should be Dark Seer
razor early game is shit but after dat it's really good with spell amp facet but yeh there are options dat make your offlane play so so much easier you don't get punished dat hard by not being in your correct position (you don't feed when you move away from your m8) oh i also need to add razor need a team to actually be useful alone it's meh and farming with it is ugh
He sucks as an offlane because tanky initiating heroes are the meta right now. Wraith King just farms and does nothing for like 20 to 30 minutes. He's also very easy to kill, despite having two lives, until he gets a lot of items and levels.
@@さよナランチャ-h6v Bro if you can get your aghanim timing properly you can stomp the game with the 2nd facet. It should be higher than D tier. You can play it like a right clicking hero.
What do you mean RIP Night Stalker? He's not nerfed at all, he was and always been the king of all offlane heroes. He is a potential buyer for Nulifier, this item is bought by 92% most of every game whie skull basher only 8%. About item Khanda, this is a joke item that conviced observer players after watching replays. Collapse played Night Stalker in Compendium 2024, never bought this item, not even once. Other immortal palyers who are not into tournmanet or anything, they almost never buy Assault Cuiras, Khanda, etc.. They focus on utility core items. This Assault Cuiras is too expensive, often bought item right before finishing game to cheat win rate for higher percents. You never use it for over 5 mins after you have this in inventory. Useless item. This Khanda is useless because Night stalker is a right click hero with strong passive and bonus damage from ultimate, what is a point to spam spell "Void"? Just use nulifier and hit on a target. Night Stalker is a simple hero but extremely difficult to not mess up itemization and strategy depends on your team's picks. I learned this lesson. Remember this, if you are facing supporters with heavy armor like Ogre, etc... as well as core heroes like OD, etc... buy Daedalus (much better than Khanda), it's great utility to boost your ultimate with heavy critical hit. This item can kill Kunkka easily but without critical hit he will not run away from you because you make qutie low dmg on him. Your job is to make them to fear you! Good luck!
@@lukeladich4102 I meant that he was much stronger on lvl 6. And basically was killing any hard carry with 2 buttons. I'm not saying that he weak, still my top4 offlaner.
CK is so easy to win with -> treads, echo, orchid, shard, aghs win. Most people don't know how to deal with the illusions at legend so works for me. Nightstalker on the other hand got me from Crusader V to Legend II in the last 4 weeks - phase, echo, shard, phylactery and aoe silence is golden.
I watch these from time to time and I'm 50% convinced that these are just trolling. No way offlane venge is in the same tier as offlane axe and timber, and no way she is 2 tiers higher than razor.
On Timber the Twisted Chakram facet is just way better. The Splinter one basically does nothing. Twisted Chakram gives you and extra level of Chakram burst damage. It's just a worse version of the old Second Chakram. A worse version of a spell that did 400+ Pure damage at max level is still pretty good.
Visage in D tier only because of his facet? My dude, you are making a mistake. Lycan's spirit wolves are busted but I dunno how that translates into off-lane, probably, not that great.
Axe is still fine, he's still getting free stuff when pre 7.36 he was still good. Just that they gave him too much free stuff but he still gets it, he's still really good if you're a good axe but not super braindead anymore
Changing zoo summons to be uncontrollable and noob friendly is the most unnecessary and downright insulting change of all time. They basically have 1 facet now.
The giga treant needs some crazy armor or something because it cannot take down a tower like the treant cluster can and it’s not the best at hero fighting. You don’t even get as much innate damage as you do with the multiple trees even with the 3x multiplier Seems useless
what the fak happened to u jenkins ?? you look different ma boi , before u look like u on weed now it looks like u on snow . living the rockstar life sir 👑
Getting back into the game after dropping it at reborn patch, ik thrre shitton to catchup to in macrogame but ive really wanted to main dawnbreaker, what are her outliers in performance as far as matchups/team compositions go?
the thing about not being able to hit people with omni hammer of purity without a aggro creeps in lane is not true. it works like any other toggleable modifier, meaning you can orb walk with it. just press the spells key and left click instead of right clicking with autocast
@@angelbessinger7108 WR can be played in any role but she is a very greedy support. So I think that her main roles are mid and offlane. As an offlaner she is good against Slark, Ursa, Lifestealer, Juggernaut, Monkey King - heroes that usually make melee offlaners struggle.
Visage D tier? dafuq? He got A LOT this patch.he now can steal speed from multiple enemies, He doesnt need to re-summon to upgrade birds, he can now tp birds for free, where he needed to re-summon before for tp reactions. and in lane he is a hard hitting high range universal hero with one of the best lvl1 spells (soul rip) in the game, until he obliterates the lane with his lvl 6.
If Jenkins had an innate ability, it would also be Degen Aura
Corpse eater suits him well.
Not beating the "strangling people" allegations with those gloves
but they don't fit :3
@@pebalii6184my thoughts exactly lololol
Crazy to me that bristle would literally be better if you could take neither facet
real, i hope valve create 3 facets for bb 3rd they return him back to normal but his nasal goo will be hairball
The attack speed means you proc items more, it makes abyssal blade even better
He was a menace for way too long. This was one way to nerf him.
I think its still op i am 10w 2l on it
@@JB-nd1sj Once they took his AOE goo, he went from my perennial second favorite hero to off my roster entirely. This shit here was just piling on, and in the same patch they ruined the ONE hero I liked better than him, so I almost took him off too. I might just quit DOTA at this point.
Christ Jenkins what happened to you
liiks like a heroin addict
people are getting confused in last few years
those rounnd glasses so hot they made me so faggy I wanna brush his Bodey with my Drush
What do you mean?
Crippling kpop addiction
Just a correction about venge, the melee facet gives her the melee benefits from every item EXCEPT vanguard. Basher works, phase works, lance of pursuit works, skadi treats her like melee, etc.
She also doesn't get the innate damage block melee heroes get just fyi.
Support melee venge with Venom orb is dope
Yeah it gives her melee attack benefits, not defensive ones. You right 👍
@@TheRealDEMAND skadi seems to be the exception, where it only slows her for 20% instead of 50% like it would other range heroes
@@PawnerSawyersupport venge is better w the other facet tho
The most important thing about melee facet is her BAT being better anyway
No Morphing? He can turn into literally any guy.
"I swear to god I don't strangle people" - whatever you say, Ordell Robbie
Supports next? I wanna hear your thoughts on CM, ive been spamming her and I think shes fucking busted this patch. On the laning stage at least.
why are people still making videos for dota, i thought everyone moved to dota2 a long time ago. Pointless channel
Im a level 30 darkseer, he has been a huge hero since normal punch was released, i felt like his only weakness was the laning so just getting free attack spees for easier denies and last hits is just insane
have you tried buying armlet on dark seer (before the 1 -> 0.5 AS from int nerf)? I think it was very OP, huge kill potential + survivability, and a lot of AS from nothing
Why do people still give the hero level? It was the same with the crusader guy that was level 30 on a hero and told everyone in the comments how wrong they are.
Have you encountered offlane Elder Titan? I play him a lot and he seems pretty good if the enemy team doesn't have heroes with purge to get rid off astral spirit buff, or Viper(all melee heroes have an issue dealing with Viper imo)
People hyping up green dragon for DK like it’s hottest shit when a free skadi is sitting on frost 😪.
Green pushes towers so fast is what I’ve noticed
There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.
Ok dr. Gonzo...
he looks like his hobbies are strangling people and making furniture out of them
You forgot important offlaners (that are quite strong, at least B Tier):
Windranger, Winter Wyvern and Abaddon
Abaddon sucks as a core now. I think WW was strong at the start of the patch, but now that they've nerfed the range so much, she's not that good of a core anymore.
1k mmr, hello
this is not below legend tier list offlane
only for heralds
You mfers with windranger,ww offlane either throws the game or makes the game 2x as long as it's necessary
I would just like to point out that there is potential for bristle as a crowd control pos 4/5 hero with the goo facet. He has 87% MS and -27 armour on max stacks lvl 4 goo with this facet. I've had great success laning with PA/riki etc who have excessive physical damage and jump potential. The hero can stand at the front and take up space, and soak more damage than regular supports even with no items, and doing so usually puts 4-6 stacks of goo on everything behind him. Heroes in the offlane that have no escape can seriously be run down at levels 1-3 insanely hard. Heroes like Doom/Pudge/Axe simply cannot cope with the minus armour
Im back to dota again after 9 months being sober. Papa Jenkins help.
where's wyvern (not biased)
I am kind of a bb spammer. Climbed to 5500 mmr from 3200 mmr in 4 months since new year with only bb. Bristle is still playeble in my opinion but i have around 50% winrate and gained only 200 mmr since 7.36, and all of it in past week, before that i was stuck. Berserk facet provides same gameplay as old bristle, he has same immortality from behind with bloodstone. But i can't hunt supports in midgame with 500 damage if they survive aghs, my damage with aghs and bloodstone is way lower (On the better side bb is now good against undying and phoenix). Also heroes like axe, lc and sd (with aghs) are very good against bristle, and very popular. I see a lot of tinkers also and bristle strugles against him.
can you segment the timeline by hero? great content Jenkins thank you
I've been spamming Abbadon quite a lot recently, with the better shield facet. It feels really strong in lane and also in the late game I'm so hard to kill and deal a shit ton of damage with radiance and the reflection from the shield. How do you guys feel about it? Haven't seen him before today. Played with and against him in like 5 games or something today. lol.
Removing the silence in his attacks kinda destroyed him for me. He’s very easy to kite in my 4k bracket and is much better as a support.
Man, I just can't wait for more of these, please do more.
yeah as someone who doesnt play the game anymore, I love these cause they summarize the game design and updates and arent overencumbered with meme edits and fake hype
No way beastmaster is on the same powerlevel for being in D tier. Flexible, strong laner that can potentially play both magical and zoo.
my opinion has changed in the week. Beast is pretty good. Probably B+
@@jenkinstierlists9871 thanks for replying and completely agree with B+.
Just lost to a centaur who had two bracers and rushed Heart Of Tarrasque. He died once trying to fight before he got it since he had no other items, but it was ridiculously worth it for him during 16mins he gets heart, runs fast asf, can't die, has high dps and doesn't need blink anymore.
Yep i had bristle offlane who picked goo level 1 and proceeded to get absolutely steamrolled and feed the whole game. Didnt even know what to do level one since he was a creep that doesnt scale.
I remember playing night stalker with the reversed day-night facet with a friend playing IO, the amount of attack speed and damage i had in early levels was just crazy, the enemy carry couldn't do anything
Before I had the same thought as you regarding lycan but 2nd facet is better especially for an off laner because when wolves expire he gets healed for that amount, meaning if he has mana he has a great sustain for entire laning stage. As for ck again 2nd facet is better perfect for those with a gambling addiction
Damn I like your tier lists so much! Your analytics is amazing thank you man!
"There you are. I've been looking for you."
I think it's better you make a clip of you playing the hero while you explain and you as a professional player should be able to play the hero's you say the best "_____" of 7.36b
i have 9 winning streaks of NS. i climbed from 5.8 to 6.8k because of this hero. 😂
The pudge hook going further and faster is lowkey hard to adjust, 8years of dota, with basicly pudge one every 2 or 3 games builds habits
Where's clockwerk? Since 7.36 I've been doing clock off and almost every game I'm doing so much impact. I've been watching the qualifiers and clock is in 80% of the games as either off or support. I prefer him as offlane/tanky/disruption.
centa probably the one annoying piece of offline, its really hard to kill in lane unless you got ursa/ tb meta off cd
work everytime most of the time, and hard to win/stomp lane without those 2 carries
just pick m.speed facet buy 3/4 bracer and get like 1.2-1.4k hp before 5 minutes
while have +10 hp regen and low cd nuke, good luck laning with him, not mentioning support behind that horse
while balanar laning is huge now, the hero is fine if 1 of your core are not countered/ can do fine againts him
but if he was niche last pick, well the game probably over before 25 min
idk what are you talking about gigtreants, these mfs destroy towers like crazy. T2 towers fall at 15 min consistently. I'm 7k mmr 4 pos, stole NP from vaniLLl1, he's having 70% wr on 11k
Death prophet is definitely better than C tier offlane. Her laning is very strong and she can go multiple different builds, usually shiva rush and then max tanks or she can now go for more of a semi carry build with like AC and aghanim with the attack speed talent. Octarine core also very strong on her with scaling CD reduction
I play nightstalker a lot, even before these facets,
I think facet 1 is better.
the real benefit of nighttime right now is the passive, then the vision, then the regen, in that order.
at lvl 1, you get no benefit of the passive, thats like 1 minute with no benefit
lvl 2 you put a point, its value lvl 1 is not that high, but ill admit it helps.
by minute 5, there is a real window where you are not lvl 6, but its day time, and the enemy can punish you harder than he could if you were all lvl 1, because they got spells and lvls.
often at lvl 1 day time, you take advantage of his high damage and focus on CS, and the threat the enemy can put on you with lvl 1 spells is usually not too much.
TLDR
I always thought his laning is decent anyway because of his high base stats and that early on [first 5 minutes] there is not too much going on in terms of threat unless the enemy has a veno or something like that, so I pick facet 1
WHERES MY VISAGE AT?! D tier 😅
I know I’m biased because I’m the only visage player in existence but I have great success with him in all matchups. I find a way.
Edit: I’d put Visage in a solid high B or low A because of his facet that gives his grave chill an aoe and he gains 25% of the attack speed from secondary affected units which gives him much better farming speed, pushing speed, and sometimes in fights you slow extra people. And now his familiars can stone form while they are stunned which is really underrated. Previously axe could kill your familiars for free but now you just stun him and waste his time. Also, the other facet “faithful followers” is completely garbage so never ever take it unless it gets a huge buff
Edit 2: I expect a full video on visage after this… lol
Nooo, shhhh, visage is shit and valve for sure does not need to nerf it so we can keep spamming him and gain free mmr. So let's all agree that he's D tier despite 55% overall wr on sepulchre and never talk about him again, alright?
isnt this the villain from 'The Batman' ?
omni knight kisses his opponent just to attack, then put's hes only single target nuke, to melee, look out how they murder my boy, no other facet or talent, that can extend the range, ffs, or maybe add a kotl treatment wherein his hammer of purity became a long range cast, if in guardian angel or repel. he's now a walking single target meka and crimson guard, with a bkb on the side
The reason Omni is bad is bc the shard got completely changed. you used to be able to get 2 hammers in, one for the spell and one for the on-hit effect. now its just 1 hammer.
the list is so wrong. visage and beastmaster should at least be B tier if not A. Axe, Slardar B tier but pudge and primal is A lmao. And ns is nowhere near S tier probably B tier only. Only S tier hero should be Dark Seer
razor early game is shit but after dat it's really good with spell amp facet but yeh there are options dat make your offlane play so so much easier you don't get punished dat hard by not being in your correct position (you don't feed when you move away from your m8) oh i also need to add razor need a team to actually be useful alone it's meh and farming with it is ugh
I think beastmaster deserves more respect. You stack the anceints with wolf and there is no bad lane for that hero. Except they kill your stacks.
Why is this guy wearing a predator glove..... lol
and the shirt
Freddy kruger roleplay
Dude said he looks like Dahmer
i ranked up from guardian 1 to archon 1 thanks to your stream dude thanks a lot
Britle passive goo shot procs phylactory maybe something there?
Now you gotta do 7.36c😂
17:25 my exact reaction to that happening to me
Jenkins looks a better Joker than Heath Ledger and Joaquin Phoenix combined. 🃏🃏
I don’t even play this game why am I here I don’t even play pc league I play the mobile version 😂
ill save you guys some time, just play axe, dragon knight and nightstalker, ty
Where's windranger. I spam her offlane currently at a 10 winstreak
No Wraith King - day ruined
WK hasn’t been a good offlane option for a long time
@@markymark425 what do you mean he's one of the most picked offlaners right now
@@adamkant439 doesn’t mean he’s good at it
He sucks as an offlane because tanky initiating heroes are the meta right now. Wraith King just farms and does nothing for like 20 to 30 minutes. He's also very easy to kill, despite having two lives, until he gets a lot of items and levels.
He has a high winrate on offlane@@markymark425
Bruh Beastmaster on D tier? You gotta be fkin kiddin me
Has one of the worst winrates in the game, go figure
Dude I never seen anybody playing that hero I'm Devine idk about immortal tho
It is fucking great in the pro scene
@@さよナランチャ-h6v Bro if you can get your aghanim timing properly you can stomp the game with the 2nd facet. It should be higher than D tier. You can play it like a right clicking hero.
@@facelessvoid2902in archon? Yes. In divine? No. I mean you can stomp on any hero as long as you can hit your timings way before enemies.
Patch tomorrow for sure, and now this vid has to be redo
RIP night stalker..
What do you mean RIP Night Stalker? He's not nerfed at all, he was and always been the king of all offlane heroes.
He is a potential buyer for Nulifier, this item is bought by 92% most of every game whie skull basher only 8%.
About item Khanda, this is a joke item that conviced observer players after watching replays. Collapse played Night Stalker in Compendium 2024, never bought this item, not even once.
Other immortal palyers who are not into tournmanet or anything, they almost never buy Assault Cuiras, Khanda, etc.. They focus on utility core items.
This Assault Cuiras is too expensive, often bought item right before finishing game to cheat win rate for higher percents. You never use it for over 5 mins after you have this in inventory. Useless item.
This Khanda is useless because Night stalker is a right click hero with strong passive and bonus damage from ultimate, what is a point to spam spell "Void"? Just use nulifier and hit on a target.
Night Stalker is a simple hero but extremely difficult to not mess up itemization and strategy depends on your team's picks. I learned this lesson.
Remember this, if you are facing supporters with heavy armor like Ogre, etc... as well as core heroes like OD, etc... buy Daedalus (much better than Khanda), it's great utility to boost your ultimate with heavy critical hit.
This item can kill Kunkka easily but without critical hit he will not run away from you because you make qutie low dmg on him.
Your job is to make them to fear you!
Good luck!
@@lukeladich4102 I meant that he was much stronger on lvl 6. And basically was killing any hard carry with 2 buttons. I'm not saying that he weak, still my top4 offlaner.
so no winter wyvern, witch doctor and windrunner on this list huh? Jenkins dont take any Ws
I guess the glove DID fit.
Thank you for the tier-list.
Can I leave the basement now?
i dont really care about facet i just wanna see some funny shit herald playing
Thank you sir, very useful indeed.
Night Stalker getting some love. All hail Balanar, the lord of the dark.
axe, slatdar and mars1 tier higher
legion 1 tier lower
legion with aghs 2 tiers lower
OJ was innocent, Jenkins did it
CK is so easy to win with -> treads, echo, orchid, shard, aghs win. Most people don't know how to deal with the illusions at legend so works for me.
Nightstalker on the other hand got me from Crusader V to Legend II in the last 4 weeks - phase, echo, shard, phylactery and aoe silence is golden.
He is now nerfed...
Think you're wrong about visage. I would say A tier
in my 200 matches this patch i have not encountered magnus offlane
I'VE BEEN WAITING I'M SLOBBERING AND DROOLING
I watch these from time to time and I'm 50% convinced that these are just trolling. No way offlane venge is in the same tier as offlane axe and timber, and no way she is 2 tiers higher than razor.
venge is in like every pro level pub. she might even be s tier
Stop shampooing your hair. It’s so dry and withered.
Is Jenkins going through a breakdown rn? Serious question
On Timber the Twisted Chakram facet is just way better. The Splinter one basically does nothing. Twisted Chakram gives you and extra level of Chakram burst damage. It's just a worse version of the old Second Chakram. A worse version of a spell that did 400+ Pure damage at max level is still pretty good.
Feel like axe is way stronger than you give him credit for
you should start fartmaxxing
Visage in D tier only because of his facet? My dude, you are making a mistake.
Lycan's spirit wolves are busted but I dunno how that translates into off-lane, probably, not that great.
WTF NO OGRE MAGI. HE IS BROKEN I PROMISE.
Whats woth the gloves?? Looks really weird dude
Axe is still fine, he's still getting free stuff when pre 7.36 he was still good. Just that they gave him too much free stuff but he still gets it, he's still really good if you're a good axe but not super braindead anymore
SK still b tier? tf u talkin about😂. dude is in the gutter
Nice gloves OJ Jenkins
legion is still strong, ds too but he's more situational imo
Changing zoo summons to be uncontrollable and noob friendly is the most unnecessary and downright insulting change of all time. They basically have 1 facet now.
but you need a good team for play night slalker
Where’s weaver offlane that I seem to see constantly in my pubs and always creates the most difficult midgame scenarios?
The giga treant needs some crazy armor or something because it cannot take down a tower like the treant cluster can and it’s not the best at hero fighting. You don’t even get as much innate damage as you do with the multiple trees even with the 3x multiplier
Seems useless
Dude you look like Joker after therapy
what the fak happened to u jenkins ?? you look different ma boi , before u look like u on weed now it looks like u on snow . living the rockstar life sir 👑
Liked because of the Mahito reference
Getting back into the game after dropping it at reborn patch, ik thrre shitton to catchup to in macrogame but ive really wanted to main dawnbreaker, what are her outliers in performance as far as matchups/team compositions go?
the thing about not being able to hit people with omni hammer of purity without a aggro creeps in lane is not true. it works like any other toggleable modifier, meaning you can orb walk with it. just press the spells key and left click instead of right clicking with autocast
Where is Windranger? My beloved ginger lady )
Girl or a woman, she not a lady, she ain't old!
@@vitaliyred622Lady
Dont you ever pick her as offlaner
Windranger is a support
@@angelbessinger7108 WR can be played in any role but she is a very greedy support. So I think that her main roles are mid and offlane. As an offlaner she is good against Slark, Ursa, Lifestealer, Juggernaut, Monkey King - heroes that usually make melee offlaners struggle.
Thanks for the tier list !!! Is amazing content....
Visage D tier? dafuq? He got A LOT this patch.he now can steal speed from multiple enemies, He doesnt need to re-summon to upgrade birds, he can now tp birds for free, where he needed to re-summon before for tp reactions. and in lane he is a hard hitting high range universal hero with one of the best lvl1 spells (soul rip) in the game, until he obliterates the lane with his lvl 6.
i figured brislteback pos 1 with goo, go ags to farm/fight early, shard, sange yasha, bkb, AC and satanic. 8 wins in a row now
no weaver?
Lose the glasses or you're going on a register
Why he wearing the OJs
This man is really spiriling, I hope he gets the help he needs
Ngl the centaur no boots is so dogsht now
WK is an offlane hero... I think.
This tier list is kind of dogshit tier
Bristleback... 😏 Has there even been any patch in which he's not either dogshit tier or the best hero in the game?