You can't talk to some of these fans. Sam doesn't have 18 int's. He has 15 and Josh Allen has 14, Mahomes has 13. Hurts is tied with Sam with the most turnovers in the NFL. Most of our fans don't watch others teams. Out of the top 3 QB's two of them hold the ball long. Two of them don't play within structure. Two of them try to make hero plays a lot. One of them is the same height as Sam.
Lol even the guy whose talking in this video doesn't realize this and he's get PAID to do this so honestly the fanbase and the local media isn't worth listening to right now
I've been a washington fan for 40 years, and watched our QBs painfully for over 20 years, aside from RG3's rookie year, we've not had anyone that has showed promise like Howell since, and long before. He's got the ability to make great throws, and has made some unbelievable throws already. His problem this year has been a combination of things, poor play calling, poor separation often, and a questionable offensive line at best. I put the majority of the blame on Bienemy for not scheming to the personnel at his disposal, as opposed to just drawing up pass plays that take time to develop for big plays. Sack after sack, no protection, and Howell isn't tall enough to see the field when the line is blown up. The guy needs time, and can't have time without protection. It feels like Bienemy's got a scheme looking for the personnel to fit it, and we don't have them. He must adjust, but it may be too late for him already in Washington
I don’t see the new GM letting a top OL go with our first pick in the draft. Top OL are so hard to come by and we’ve found that out the hard way. The new GM needs to draft a top OL with that top 5 pick.
There is a reason that Howell was picked in round 5. If the commanders thought more highly of him they would have drafted him higher instead of drafting the non productive players they drafted at the top of their draft board.
Ive lost a little faith in him, but I don’t think it’s his fault. Our defense was supposed to take the pressure off the offense this year and that was completely flipped on its head. A bad defense and a bad o line have been detrimental to his development. I’m more impressed with Sam’s toughness than I’d thought I’d be, he just needs more time to develop around a balanced team. My opinion, draft the OL in the first round. Build the core of the team up around Sam and next year is make or break for him. We are more than a QB away from being highly competitive so build the team around the QB now, and address the QB later.
“Peyton manning has the rookie record for INTs” is the worst datapoint. Every fan base uses it for every rookie. Raider fans probably used it for Russel, Bears fans probably used it for Trubisky, etc.
The problem is we’re throwing the ball more than any team in the league and Sam can’t get Terry the ball . Whether it’s bieniemy or Howell everyone on the team should be on the hotseat
Man look the offense is not a fit for Sam dropping back like that is not healthy for no QB running game rank last trash defense special teams trash I mean No QB can win like that. EB is not a fit here.
Even if we draft a QB Sam should still be on the roster, and will probably be our Week 1 starter. Having two starting caliber QBs is not a bad problem to have, the league is so starved for QBs that they fetch a lot in a trade.
THIS is an excellent point. Do we really think Jaiden Daniels (for example) is going to be better than Sam Howell in August 2024? MAYBE in August 2025....
I agree. I think the whole "if you have 2 starting caliber QBs you have none" is completely outdated. If you're not sure just draft another one and if Sam shows significant improvement as a starter next year you have a incredible trading asset in the other QB.
I think two things should have happened: 1) Kevin O'Connell should have been kept on staff ( Hawkins played better under him) 2. AJ Smith should have been retained.
We the fans have lost all faith in the coaches. The players obviously echo this sentiment. It would be interesting to see the same players with different tutelage and leadership. Probably a winning team.
Sam hit a wall. He is struggling with a specific concept. He was gonna struggle on reads because he hasn't been in this offense. This happened with Brunnell and Campbell.
No one wants to hear this, and this happens in all jobs... He is exhausted. He is tired. Does that excuse bad judgement,Not at all, but it explains some bad judgement. Fatigued people regardless of their walk of life don't process well. A fresh Sam less scouted looked really good, a tired Sam scouted more looks mediocre. Take a deep breath please. Has anyone parented children. Really awesome people get suffocated easily with wild expectations. Let him breathe. Or start over.
af6456 that's what I'm saying. I think I overreacted after the loss Sunday saying I'm done with him but I gotta step back and really ask "was he really put in the best scenario to succeed?" The answer is an emphatic NO!
No. I’m well aware of the fact that in his first year in EB’s system, he has been learning on the fly (while Mahomes on the other hand, sat his whole first year to learn the offense). And, with that being said, Howell has played well under the circumstances: below average OL pass-pro (which limits the plays you can call) and below average defensive play. Also, on the other hand, Howell has thrown the ball more than any other QB in the league. Howell has shown many flashes throughout the year that he is the franchise QB. Manning and Aikman had much worse first full years than Howell has. While Howell currently leads the league in INTs, he has the same amount of TDs as Hurts, top 10 in passing yards, more YPG than Hurts, Allen, and Herbert, and he’s doing all of it behind a makeshift OL that has been the weak point since Rivera came in. Howell is a guy we can build around.
No. The amount of pressure and responsibility that’s been thrust on him would make many other young QBs crumble. I do think this staff and porous roster is starting to break him, but the ability is still very much there.
Yes, because of his resume and his actual words. There are not two time, Super Bowl winning OCs, because even the best ones get 1 to 3 years as an OC. He had 5 and was in his system for 10 years. He has MJD, Tyreke Hill Travis Kelce, Patrick Mahomes, and Adrian Peterson vouching for his ability. He literally said i will only eun what the guys could run and I'm looking forward to a challenge. By any standard he is the most qualified OC to HC in the NFL. I know people are going to mention Ben Johnson, but just because youre hot has no bearing on what you will do in the futurr as people are currently arguing with EB. My question is why does EB not get the grace of being in his first year here?
So was he calling the offense in KC before or not? I'm confused. Either way that's not the point Craig or anybody else who's actually thinking about this critically is saying. His offensive philosophy is the complete opposite of how you're supposed to treat a first year starting QB. If Jalen Hurts or Brock Purdy were in Sam's situation they'd be struggling just as much as him. Why? Cuz EBs philosophy doesn't help a young QB and by extention doesn't lead to winning games. I just hope EB hasn't completely ruined the kid.
@raymondsmith2040 he been the OC in someone else system just as he is here. It's always the HCs ship. This is still 80% the same staff and personnel from last year. Best case scenario kinda happened with Sam. He showed he coupd play, but he has a way to go in consistency executing.
andysawyer647 you're kidding me with the first half of your comment right? Ron ain't got nothing to do with this offense. Before JDR got canned he had nothing to do with the defense either. Ron pretty much just been standing there collecting a free check for most of this season. Miss me with that nonsense.
I never had faith in Sam Howell, or EB. The offense has looked stagnant all season. Sam has had good drives, but he holds the ball too long and can't see the field.
Ppl give up on Sam this is why this team stays at the bottom soon as things go south all of sudden this player is bad. Look The rams HC McVay said Sam is a baller this guy knows what a QB is. So maybe EB is not the right fit
Is there an AI generated Take Command that I’m not aware of? We never said that. We might’ve discussed reasons why it could be beneficial but we never said they outweigh the reasons to start Sam
To be honest, the only qb I've had faith in on this team, was Taylor Heinicke. And they let him go. Along with the team name. Bring back the "Redskins" and keep the qb carousel going until we find the hot hand again. And when u do find the hot hand (cousins,Heinicke) dont let them go, dammit.
You can't talk to some of these fans. Sam doesn't have 18 int's. He has 15 and Josh Allen has 14, Mahomes has 13. Hurts is tied with Sam with the most turnovers in the NFL. Most of our fans don't watch others teams. Out of the top 3 QB's two of them hold the ball long. Two of them don't play within structure. Two of them try to make hero plays a lot. One of them is the same height as Sam.
Lol even the guy whose talking in this video doesn't realize this and he's get PAID to do this so honestly the fanbase and the local media isn't worth listening to right now
Huh?
@@craighoffman meant to say the top 3 QB's in the draft.
I've been a washington fan for 40 years, and watched our QBs painfully for over 20 years, aside from RG3's rookie year, we've not had anyone that has showed promise like Howell since, and long before.
He's got the ability to make great throws, and has made some unbelievable throws already. His problem this year has been a combination of things, poor play calling, poor separation often, and a questionable offensive line at best. I put the majority of the blame on Bienemy for not scheming to the personnel at his disposal, as opposed to just drawing up pass plays that take time to develop for big plays. Sack after sack, no protection, and Howell isn't tall enough to see the field when the line is blown up. The guy needs time, and can't have time without protection. It feels like Bienemy's got a scheme looking for the personnel to fit it, and we don't have them. He must adjust, but it may be too late for him already in Washington
Sam has thrown more picks as his attempts have gone down though. We havent passed a lot recently.
I don’t see the new GM letting a top OL go with our first pick in the draft. Top OL are so hard to come by and we’ve found that out the hard way.
The new GM needs to draft a top OL with that top 5 pick.
There is a reason that Howell was picked in round 5. If the commanders thought more highly of him they would have drafted him higher instead of drafting the non productive players they drafted at the top of their draft board.
So why did they trade up to be the first pick in round 5 to get him?
The reason they didn't draft him hire is because they traded for Carson Wentz. Not exactly a great defense lol
What’s the reason Brady was drafted so late?
People missed
Ive lost a little faith in him, but I don’t think it’s his fault. Our defense was supposed to take the pressure off the offense this year and that was completely flipped on its head. A bad defense and a bad o line have been detrimental to his development. I’m more impressed with Sam’s toughness than I’d thought I’d be, he just needs more time to develop around a balanced team.
My opinion, draft the OL in the first round. Build the core of the team up around Sam and next year is make or break for him. We are more than a QB away from being highly competitive so build the team around the QB now, and address the QB later.
“Peyton manning has the rookie record for INTs” is the worst datapoint. Every fan base uses it for every rookie. Raider fans probably used it for Russel, Bears fans probably used it for Trubisky, etc.
The problem is we’re throwing the ball more than any team in the league and Sam can’t get Terry the ball . Whether it’s bieniemy or Howell everyone on the team should be on the hotseat
When we stopped throwing it 30 times a game Terry's touches decreased. We haven't thrown the ball a lot for a month.
I just hope we draft a blue chip quarterback it would help this franchise I was so much
Man look the offense is not a fit for Sam dropping back like that is not healthy for no QB running game rank last trash defense special teams trash I mean No QB can win like that. EB is not a fit here.
Even if we draft a QB Sam should still be on the roster, and will probably be our Week 1 starter. Having two starting caliber QBs is not a bad problem to have, the league is so starved for QBs that they fetch a lot in a trade.
THIS is an excellent point. Do we really think Jaiden Daniels (for example) is going to be better than Sam Howell in August 2024? MAYBE in August 2025....
I agree. I think the whole "if you have 2 starting caliber QBs you have none" is completely outdated. If you're not sure just draft another one and if Sam shows significant improvement as a starter next year you have a incredible trading asset in the other QB.
I think two things should have happened:
1) Kevin O'Connell should have been kept on staff ( Hawkins played better under him)
2. AJ Smith should have been retained.
We the fans have lost all faith in the coaches. The players obviously echo this sentiment. It would be interesting to see the same players with different tutelage and leadership. Probably a winning team.
Sam hit a wall. He is struggling with a specific concept. He was gonna struggle on reads because he hasn't been in this offense. This happened with Brunnell and Campbell.
No one wants to hear this, and this happens in all jobs... He is exhausted. He is tired. Does that excuse bad judgement,Not at all, but it explains some bad judgement. Fatigued people regardless of their walk of life don't process well. A fresh Sam less scouted looked really good, a tired Sam scouted more looks mediocre. Take a deep breath please. Has anyone parented children. Really awesome people get suffocated easily with wild expectations. Let him breathe. Or start over.
af6456 that's what I'm saying. I think I overreacted after the loss Sunday saying I'm done with him but I gotta step back and really ask "was he really put in the best scenario to succeed?" The answer is an emphatic NO!
I just don’t think you fire an OC after one year
Playing like a rookie not helping EB😢
No. I’m well aware of the fact that in his first year in EB’s system, he has been learning on the fly (while Mahomes on the other hand, sat his whole first year to learn the offense). And, with that being said, Howell has played well under the circumstances: below average OL pass-pro (which limits the plays you can call) and below average defensive play.
Also, on the other hand, Howell has thrown the ball more than any other QB in the league. Howell has shown many flashes throughout the year that he is the franchise QB. Manning and Aikman had much worse first full years than Howell has. While Howell currently leads the league in INTs, he has the same amount of TDs as Hurts, top 10 in passing yards, more YPG than Hurts, Allen, and Herbert, and he’s doing all of it behind a makeshift OL that has been the weak point since Rivera came in.
Howell is a guy we can build around.
Yes we Lost faith in Sam not seeing the field 😢
Get em Craig!
I find it hard to believe that the OL isn’t heavily addressed this draft when Howell leads the league in sacks.
No. The amount of pressure and responsibility that’s been thrust on him would make many other young QBs crumble. I do think this staff and porous roster is starting to break him, but the ability is still very much there.
Yes, because of his resume and his actual words. There are not two time, Super Bowl winning OCs, because even the best ones get 1 to 3 years as an OC. He had 5 and was in his system for 10 years. He has MJD, Tyreke Hill Travis Kelce, Patrick Mahomes, and Adrian Peterson vouching for his ability. He literally said i will only eun what the guys could run and I'm looking forward to a challenge. By any standard he is the most qualified OC to HC in the NFL. I know people are going to mention Ben Johnson, but just because youre hot has no bearing on what you will do in the futurr as people are currently arguing with EB. My question is why does EB not get the grace of being in his first year here?
So was he calling the offense in KC before or not? I'm confused. Either way that's not the point Craig or anybody else who's actually thinking about this critically is saying. His offensive philosophy is the complete opposite of how you're supposed to treat a first year starting QB. If Jalen Hurts or Brock Purdy were in Sam's situation they'd be struggling just as much as him. Why? Cuz EBs philosophy doesn't help a young QB and by extention doesn't lead to winning games. I just hope EB hasn't completely ruined the kid.
@raymondsmith2040 This coaching staff already did. What do you expect when you're being coached to find incompletions?
@raymondsmith2040 he been the OC in someone else system just as he is here. It's always the HCs ship. This is still 80% the same staff and personnel from last year. Best case scenario kinda happened with Sam. He showed he coupd play, but he has a way to go in consistency executing.
andysawyer647 you're kidding me with the first half of your comment right? Ron ain't got nothing to do with this offense. Before JDR got canned he had nothing to do with the defense either. Ron pretty much just been standing there collecting a free check for most of this season. Miss me with that nonsense.
@raymondsmith2040 apparently he had enough control to request Sam not play against the Rams.
I never had faith in Sam Howell, or EB. The offense has looked stagnant all season. Sam has had good drives, but he holds the ball too long and can't see the field.
Sam does looked dazed out there after the sacks he has taken Jacoby should be resigned.
How can you expect good things from a young QB when he is being "coached" to find incompletions?
What to the running we were rank 7th last yr now rank last ? GTFOH fired the whole staff get Ben Johnson or Bobby slowik
Nope. Still believe SH can be the one if he can clean something up.
I lost faith in him after the Buffalo game Draft a QB
Ppl give up on Sam this is why this team stays at the bottom soon as things go south all of sudden this player is bad. Look The rams HC McVay said Sam is a baller this guy knows what a QB is. So maybe EB is not the right fit
No but when y'all in the media push for Brissett to start in a lost season what are the clueless fans suppose to do ?!
Who's we?!
You and Logan literally had a segment talking about reason Brissett should start next game
Is there an AI generated Take Command that I’m not aware of? We never said that. We might’ve discussed reasons why it could be beneficial but we never said they outweigh the reasons to start Sam
Not this one.
Can we get a segment on the young QBs coming out ?and on which ones are better than sam if any
Or maybe you can go watch the film on these QBs coming out and form your own opinion. Instead of just parroting what the media says.
@@treflips2158 😐😐who said I don’t have my own opinion
@@clarencefieldsjr12 Based on your comment. Doesn't seem like you do.
@@treflips2158 well that’s a bad assumption
No, my biggest complaint against Sam is the OC who’s calling the plays. EB is complete garbage.
Sam out there day dreaming 😀
To be honest, the only qb I've had faith in on this team, was Taylor Heinicke. And they let him go. Along with the team name. Bring back the "Redskins" and keep the qb carousel going until we find the hot hand again. And when u do find the hot hand (cousins,Heinicke) dont let them go, dammit.
I wonder if the people calling for EB to be the guy would feel the same if he had milky white skin.