The resale includes ebay fees, tax, shipping and time spent. Also fronting the cost is an overhead until you actually sell it. There is no crime its just pittance when you add everything up at the ends
I don't care about crowd fund or Kickstarter stuff. If one person wants to buy enough to fund the whole thing, awesome. What get me is when a company doesn't put purchase limits on a limited edition toy, and like 10 people buy all the quantity in 5 minutes. Even then, it's the companies fault for not enforcing purchase limits.
I think there are 2 types of flippers. One that buys a bunch of crowd-funded items and resells them at a higher price. And the other one is one that buys a bunch of exclusive regular discount/retail store items and resells at a higher price. It is the 2nd type of flipper that people hate.
But the first aint a scalper though. More of an investor if you will. Forking out the money now to get a bigger return later. They didn't delete the source. Scalpers deplete the source creating a supply and demand. Like concert tickets dating all the way back to the 70s.
@@therealunclassified True. But when that said item is gotten in hand and then that person is selling that for 4 or 5 times the amount. What's the first thing you say?
It's not the haslabs, Its the limited figures like a turtles of grayskull mer man or a once man or a nemesis immortal and where they literally only have a few hours to grab one. Versus the haslab that are up for quite a while.
I don’t really have as much of an issue with this. What I have a problem with is hasbro limiting them to begin with , just take a preorder and sell the ones that cancel after, they obviously will sell , eBay proves it
@@AlphamagnusCreations you literally said what i said , just in a different way lol. I want open pre-orders as well. I think everyone would be happy, customers and hasbro,mattel ect. They know what figures are going to be snatched up quick, just with the hype before they come out. It happens every time they have a chuckles,once a man,serpentor ect.
Flipping for profit first came to my attention within the Real Estate business where people skimp on a buying price to aqcuire a house then turn-around and list the property for exorbitant prices to drive-up property values. It is a big problem around suburban Austin because this practice is happening so often it is making housing unaffordable within a 200 mile radius of the city. :- (
Absolutely right, it’s only shitty when you can deny collectors the opportunity to purchase the item, and everyone has the opportunity with crowd funding. 👍🏽
If you are new to a line, then it is good that some flippers picked up extra copies of a Haslab say, as it allows you to collect backwards for things that you would have missed. Granted you have to pay more, but that is fair as the flipper has helped you out by ordering the product for you before you even started the line, and they held onto it for you, using up space at their place until they could sell it to you a few years later. They deserve some kind of reward for that, so a reasonable mark-up is fine in my opinion.
Exactly. If everyone only bought what they needed, the crowdfund projects would only make what's ordered, so not a single excess Hiss Tank or Galactus would be for sale in the aftermarket. I wouldn't let my sole Hiss Tank go for under $1500, because I love it and want to keep it forever. Took a ridiculous offer to woo me away from my Unicron.
The funniest part about flippers/scalpers, and all the hate they get, is that it's a system born out of necessity and demand... if there was no demand, then flippers would be out of a job, and if toys were affordable, then flippers wouldn't exist... So in effect, by the toy industry reaching almost unanimously ridiculous prices, and creating these ridiculous limited/exclusive bullshit schemes, it's creating demand, increasing price, which creates flippers... So if you really wanna be mad at somebody for the existence of flippers, then be mad at the greedy ass toy industry...
Flipping only really sucks when someone obtains all or most of the limited stock with the sole intention of selling for 2-10 times the value. Buying Haslab to resell isn’t even flipping, it just charging people extra for not being there when it was available for every person on Earth. Kind of like reselling vintage figures that were mega common 20 years ago, people are just charging because you weren’t there when it was readily available. I see no issue with that.
@ everyone could have bought it though. Every business on Earth buys things with the intention of turning a profit, are they all “flippers”? Every single one? The term flipper is a pejorative and is used to criticize people who buy all available stock to resell, but if the product is available to everyone for months, who cares if they resell at a later date? You are describing every business both large and small at that point.
People ordering extra HasLabs means more were made, which is good for everyone and drives the overall price down. What people get mad about it the mark-up. If people were reselling HasLabs for the retail price, people would say thank you, but there's 15% ebay fees to consider. And anyway, if it's overpriced, no one will buy it, so it's a matter of people deciding what it's worth to them. I made $20 on each extra Skystriker I resold because no one wanted them. My extra Proton Packs were gone the same day, I probably should have priced them higher...
Commonsense take. Anyone buying multiples of a crowdfund to sell later are making that stock available to those who missed out on the original campaign or changed their mind too late. Don't see that as a problem.
Flipping vs scalping is like sex in movies. There’s quite a lot you can get away with while still staying in that R rating, but once you cross a certain line, and we all know what that line is 😜, it becomes porn.
I take your point Hatter, but I also think that rewarding their behavior might encourage them to flip exclusives and that's not good for the community. I think there are stronger arguments than it's not illegal. Lots of things aren't illegal, but they can hurt communities. I think a couple of us are just a little confused seeing you promote this, but maybe you just need some content this week and I'm not mad at that. I've always appreciated you using your voice to discourage flipping. Hoping everyone stays civil and respectful and remembers we all just love toys.
Oh I hate flipping when it’s scarce items being bought up to sell and screwing ppl over but I’m just saying when it’s a crowdfund where everybody could’ve gotten in sometimes those multiples that people buy actually help the crowd fund go through and reach stretch goals it wouldn’t have otherwise. so it’s really a victimless “crime” because it’s an unlimited amount. if I choose right now not to help fund that Ghostbusters car and I have every opportunity to buy it then I have to expect that in a year I’m going to be paying a markup and that’s OK. The point is I had the chance to get it and I just didn’t. And by the way I never flip crowd funds I’m just saying that that has to be judged in a little different way but who knows maybe it does bring negativity? Regardless I appreciate a well thought out point like yours
Yea I bought a second set of the mondo real ghostbusters 2 pack bundle with the ideal to reselling the second pack. Worst case scenario I have an extra pack to keep!
I've only been collecting about 4yrs and I'm big into motu so i bought 3 eternia playsets with intentions of selling 2 later down the road at a decent price🤷♂️ maybe it will maybe it want i guess that's the risk you take, hopefully it will also help somebody that couldn't jump into to back it at the time
Honestly I have no issue with individual flippers or even scalpers aside from thinking they are scum. I have a real issue with the escaped mental patients paying ridiculous prices for things and the small stores that go out and buy out the Target EXCLUSIVE Carnage to sell as their own stock.
The only time "flipping" drives me nuts is when it's a store exclusive or only available at retail. If you can pre-order it online and then it sells out that sucks as well, like if you are at work. But if something came out a couple years ago or was a crowd fund that was open to everyone, I don't see an issue with profiting on it. I bought two of Ace's Ramen Racers. I got one of each color and I decided to keep the orange one and sell the black one. I sold the Black one with all the accessories for over $600! I paid $300 for both, so I basically got my orange one for free and made a small profit. I Preordered both like a year and a half before they came out. Oh, and I paid $50 shipping. I don't see anything wrong with that.
I actually get a kick out of seeing all of the toy guys crying over someone else paying high prices for something they want. It’s almost like these guys think my money is somehow theirs. I agree with what you said. There was plenty of time to go in on it and those that missed out just want to not be inconvenienced by paying a higher price.
Those who bought several Haslabs actually willed them into existence. If the only ones bought were for collectors to only have "1" then there would be none for anybody else when these get released. Now Flippers went overboard on skystikers and for a while were selling them less than the funding price
I agree. Flipping some crowd-funded thing like Giant Man or the Dragonfly only hurts the people that come into a line after that item. It sucks, but isn't shitty (though sometimes that markup they want can be). Going to a store and grabbing up everything and then charging a huge markup is absolutely shitty. But it's still fun to laugh at some of the prices people are charging for their flips right after the thing is released.
People hated on me for Reselling the No Way Home 3 Pack 😂 like bro it’s a PREORDER for figures from one of the most anticipated movies of all time. Anyone could’ve ordered during the window lol
I agree with you. Plus, if you think about it when the flippers buy up all the items the companies now think oh we need to buy more and produce more and so they become less and less scarce just like the ninja turtle line. Then the companies will re-releasethe original figures but most of the time with better articulation so if you play the waiting game, you end up making out on the deal I feel.
Bro im gonna FLIP THE SHIT outta FAWN when it comes up for funding lol make that fuckin 💰💰💰🤑🤑🤑 Dont you ever get sick of silly people Hatter lol ive gone through some of these comments and wow man lol "How dare you have an opinion thats different then mine!!!!" Lol just silly. Take care my dude and thanks again for the support 🙏
Flipping a crowdfund... the more people flip, the more it drives the price DOWN, due to the higher availability. If thousands of people bought HasLabs to flip, then the resale price would be basically the original price, even below retail if supply is higher than demand.
Hey Hatter I just uploaded the TMNT origin story. Its a short on my channel. I think you'll get a laugh out of it. Maybe we can send that dude to watch it too so he can learn how the turtles were actually created 😂 great video my dude I agree completely about this topic when is comes to Haslabs . Take care Hatter 🙏
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Well i never crowdfunded anything and never got scalped on ebay either ..the art of the deal baby 🤔
Who the hell do you think you are coming in here with logic and reasoning? There's no place in this world for that type of behavior sir. If it wasn't picked up on..this is sarcasm so no butthurting..
If those people had NOT bought extras to sell . . . Then their wouldn't even BE any for others to purchase after the campaign. All they did was make the figure MORE available. And people complaining about the prices are basically saying that they should have fronted all that money and then gone through the trouble of shipping them to other collectors for no profit out of the kindness of their heart? 🤨
So Kickstarter is money based, so multiple orders or pledges contributes to the overall amount to make the project fund. HasLab operates differently where they need X amount of backers. So 1 backer ordering 5 items doesn't add 5 towards the goal. It counts as 1 because they are 1 backer.
so I had asked that in terms of the current Ghostbusters haslab and they said each unit sold counted as one backer. They should clarify that in some official capacity. EDIT - actually I was curious I just read the Galactus description and it says that each one sold is a unit that counts towards the goal and not backers
You have every right for the amount of abuse Hasbro puts its actual loyal consumers through. The bullshit is endless the least you can do is try and make a couple bucks
A vendor had Giant Man at his booth this weekend at Legions Con for $500 and someone bought it, not sure how much they wound up paying for it though but there seems to be a demand.
Generally those people constantly complaining about flippers are either too broke or don't want to spend the proper time hunter. I occasionally flip and there's really not that much money in it. Keep your day job. Most flippers lose on more items than win. It's all part of the game. If you really want an item you collect, you need to get your money right and go after that item. But definitely NO bots, they're just plain wrong!
Made to order and then sell after for more is not scalping. Scalping is swiping all the tiger paws from target to resell them for more cause they are rare just to return them after they found out they aint that rare anymore is scalping. Well scalping that didnt workout.
Well, one of the ways it hurts the community is by further supporting these unreasonably high priced Haslabs, but every backer is guilty of that to some extent.
If you missed a kickstarter/fund that's on that person, if you couldn't scrape 200 or 300 together and pay that over 4 months... meh. You aren't going to get a second chance on pulse... unless you get like one of the 5 or 6 left at some weird sale they won't notify us about, and you won't find them at ollies. But really, so many people could have paid it over 4 months. With exclusives this is worse, some people invest in them, they have very limited runs, and the idiot store allows 5 per order. smh. I get ther being a limit of 2... like 2 Tiger paws, or 2 once a mans, or 2 Immortals or whatever, but more and more people are making this side of it a business and that sucks when consumers and fans cannot get one or have it made to order, at least for one. Many of us just want one. And we would happily wait 5 or 6 months, as long as we are guaranteed an ordering window and not this 1 or 2 or 5 min BS.
What I never understood about people who complain is, at what point does a toy go from flipped to just rare and out of print? I've had people yell at me for selling (flipping) a blu ray set that went out of print years prior. At what point is it no longer flipping and just rare? Lol
At this point I don't get mad anymore, either way when it comes to stuff like toys. The whole "I don't make all that much money" argument is kind of pathetic. I can't be mad at someone who puts in this much time and effort and makes less than the price of a hamburger. Those people deserve my pity. What does make me angry is when I see people do that kind of thing with necessities when times are tough. I was filled with absolute schadenfreude a month or two ago when the folks who thought they were going to make a few extra bucks scalping toilet paper were left holding the bag when stores refused to let them return it after the shipping strike got sorted out.
You don't realize flippers take everything off the shelves and little Timmy doesn't get to enjoy seeing it in stores and owning toys like we did when we were younger and when the children of today don't enjoy them then in the future they won't be buying toys at conventions..so Yes it is very toxic for scalpers to do what they do
@@Omnivolv so you just dislike businesses? That is what it seems your opinion is. All businesses buy products with the intention of reselling, so that clearly isn’t the issue. Haslabs are available in any quantity and to any person who wants one (or more) for months, so they aren’t taking limited stock and forcing the price to increase due to limited supply. So what part of people buying Haslabs to resell do you dislike? I imagine you will be describing every comic book shop once you give your explanation.
@@Vintage-Bob well then you don’t know how to pay attention because anybody could’ve gotten that haslab, there was literally no limit. You could’ve purchased a thousand of them if you wanted
Completely fair take on made to order items. If it ain’t being snagged from the shelves before I get off my butt, it doesn’t hurt me as a collector!
The resale includes ebay fees, tax, shipping and time spent. Also fronting the cost is an overhead until you actually sell it. There is no crime its just pittance when you add everything up at the ends
ebay fees are no joke. ebay kept an eye-popping amount when I sold my Unicron.
@@kenten oh my God if you sold that unicorn I can’t imagine what the fees were
I don't care about crowd fund or Kickstarter stuff. If one person wants to buy enough to fund the whole thing, awesome.
What get me is when a company doesn't put purchase limits on a limited edition toy, and like 10 people buy all the quantity in 5 minutes. Even then, it's the companies fault for not enforcing purchase limits.
I think there are 2 types of flippers. One that buys a bunch of crowd-funded items and resells them at a higher price. And the other one is one that buys a bunch of exclusive regular discount/retail store items and resells at a higher price. It is the 2nd type of flipper that people hate.
But the first aint a scalper though. More of an investor if you will. Forking out the money now to get a bigger return later. They didn't delete the source. Scalpers deplete the source creating a supply and demand. Like concert tickets dating all the way back to the 70s.
@@therealunclassified True. But when that said item is gotten in hand and then that person is selling that for 4 or 5 times the amount. What's the first thing you say?
@williammckinley1035 I don't say much. If it's made to order everyone had the chance.
Even Walmart getting in on all the flipping fun. 😅
It's not the haslabs, Its the limited figures like a turtles of grayskull mer man or a once man or a nemesis immortal and where they literally only have a few hours to grab one. Versus the haslab that are up for quite a while.
Yup
I don’t really have as much of an issue with this. What I have a problem with is hasbro limiting them to begin with , just take a preorder and sell the ones that cancel after, they obviously will sell , eBay proves it
@@AlphamagnusCreations you literally said what i said , just in a different way lol. I want open pre-orders as well. I think everyone would be happy, customers and hasbro,mattel ect. They know what figures are going to be snatched up quick, just with the hype before they come out. It happens every time they have a chuckles,once a man,serpentor ect.
A lot of times we disagree, but this is probably your best take ever… 100% agree!!!!!!
Flipping for profit first came to my attention within the Real Estate business where people skimp on a buying price to aqcuire a house then turn-around and list the property for exorbitant prices to drive-up property values. It is a big problem around suburban Austin because this practice is happening so often it is making housing unaffordable within a 200 mile radius of the city. :- (
"House Flipping"
It's called the "I don't want to sell it" price.
( I earned that from American Pickers lol )
Absolutely right, it’s only shitty when you can deny collectors the opportunity to purchase the item, and everyone has the opportunity with crowd funding. 👍🏽
Flipping happens with anything that has value. Period.
Im gonna scalp that Flipp-Or figure!
I bought an extra Flip-Or just to flip, because of course I have to, it's right there in the name.
If you are new to a line, then it is good that some flippers picked up extra copies of a Haslab say, as it allows you to collect backwards for things that you would have missed. Granted you have to pay more, but that is fair as the flipper has helped you out by ordering the product for you before you even started the line, and they held onto it for you, using up space at their place until they could sell it to you a few years later. They deserve some kind of reward for that, so a reasonable mark-up is fine in my opinion.
Exactly. If everyone only bought what they needed, the crowdfund projects would only make what's ordered, so not a single excess Hiss Tank or Galactus would be for sale in the aftermarket. I wouldn't let my sole Hiss Tank go for under $1500, because I love it and want to keep it forever. Took a ridiculous offer to woo me away from my Unicron.
The funniest part about flippers/scalpers, and all the hate they get, is that it's a system born out of necessity and demand... if there was no demand, then flippers would be out of a job, and if toys were affordable, then flippers wouldn't exist...
So in effect, by the toy industry reaching almost unanimously ridiculous prices, and creating these ridiculous limited/exclusive bullshit schemes, it's creating demand, increasing price, which creates flippers...
So if you really wanna be mad at somebody for the existence of flippers, then be mad at the greedy ass toy industry...
Flipping only really sucks when someone obtains all or most of the limited stock with the sole intention of selling for 2-10 times the value. Buying Haslab to resell isn’t even flipping, it just charging people extra for not being there when it was available for every person on Earth. Kind of like reselling vintage figures that were mega common 20 years ago, people are just charging because you weren’t there when it was readily available. I see no issue with that.
It’s still flipping because they are buying it to turn a quick profit which is what the term “flipping”means, it’s just not scalping.
@ everyone could have bought it though. Every business on Earth buys things with the intention of turning a profit, are they all “flippers”? Every single one? The term flipper is a pejorative and is used to criticize people who buy all available stock to resell, but if the product is available to everyone for months, who cares if they resell at a later date? You are describing every business both large and small at that point.
I hope they get stuck with their haslabs!
@@Rob-z7k why hate? Who are they hurting?
People ordering extra HasLabs means more were made, which is good for everyone and drives the overall price down. What people get mad about it the mark-up. If people were reselling HasLabs for the retail price, people would say thank you, but there's 15% ebay fees to consider. And anyway, if it's overpriced, no one will buy it, so it's a matter of people deciding what it's worth to them. I made $20 on each extra Skystriker I resold because no one wanted them. My extra Proton Packs were gone the same day, I probably should have priced them higher...
Saw Flippor at LegionCon! Congrats on a cool figure!
Ty bud!
@madhatterreviews6705 You should come to LegionCon next year!
@@lucarocks7866would love to!
Commonsense take. Anyone buying multiples of a crowdfund to sell later are making that stock available to those who missed out on the original campaign or changed their mind too late. Don't see that as a problem.
Totally agree with you man... I just bought one dragonffor me this time.😃💡👍
Flipping vs scalping is like sex in movies. There’s quite a lot you can get away with while still staying in that R rating, but once you cross a certain line, and we all know what that line is 😜, it becomes porn.
I take your point Hatter, but I also think that rewarding their behavior might encourage them to flip exclusives and that's not good for the community. I think there are stronger arguments than it's not illegal. Lots of things aren't illegal, but they can hurt communities. I think a couple of us are just a little confused seeing you promote this, but maybe you just need some content this week and I'm not mad at that. I've always appreciated you using your voice to discourage flipping. Hoping everyone stays civil and respectful and remembers we all just love toys.
Oh I hate flipping when it’s scarce items being bought up to sell and screwing ppl over but I’m just saying when it’s a crowdfund where everybody could’ve gotten in sometimes those multiples that people buy actually help the crowd fund go through and reach stretch goals it wouldn’t have otherwise. so it’s really a victimless “crime” because it’s an unlimited amount. if I choose right now not to help fund that Ghostbusters car and I have every opportunity to buy it then I have to expect that in a year I’m going to be paying a markup and that’s OK. The point is I had the chance to get it and I just didn’t. And by the way I never flip crowd funds I’m just saying that that has to be judged in a little different way but who knows maybe it does bring negativity? Regardless I appreciate a well thought out point like yours
Help hit the stretch goals? Thanks!
Yea I bought a second set of the mondo real ghostbusters 2 pack bundle with the ideal to reselling the second pack. Worst case scenario I have an extra pack to keep!
And this is the guy who has a Piss tank with his IP action figure 😂✌️
That being said, I have 2 Dragon Flies, 2 Hiss Tanks and a Sentinel for $5,000.00 MIB. 😉
I've only been collecting about 4yrs and I'm big into motu so i bought 3 eternia playsets with intentions of selling 2 later down the road at a decent price🤷♂️ maybe it will maybe it want i guess that's the risk you take, hopefully it will also help somebody that couldn't jump into to back it at the time
Honestly I have no issue with individual flippers or even scalpers aside from thinking they are scum. I have a real issue with the escaped mental patients paying ridiculous prices for things and the small stores that go out and buy out the Target EXCLUSIVE Carnage to sell as their own stock.
The only time "flipping" drives me nuts is when it's a store exclusive or only available at retail. If you can pre-order it online and then it sells out that sucks as well, like if you are at work. But if something came out a couple years ago or was a crowd fund that was open to everyone, I don't see an issue with profiting on it. I bought two of Ace's Ramen Racers. I got one of each color and I decided to keep the orange one and sell the black one. I sold the Black one with all the accessories for over $600! I paid $300 for both, so I basically got my orange one for free and made a small profit. I Preordered both like a year and a half before they came out. Oh, and I paid $50 shipping. I don't see anything wrong with that.
I actually get a kick out of seeing all of the toy guys crying over someone else paying high prices for something they want. It’s almost like these guys think my money is somehow theirs. I agree with what you said. There was plenty of time to go in on it and those that missed out just want to not be inconvenienced by paying a higher price.
Those who bought several Haslabs actually willed them into existence. If the only ones bought were for collectors to only have "1" then there would be none for anybody else when these get released. Now Flippers went overboard on skystikers and for a while were selling them less than the funding price
I agree. Flipping some crowd-funded thing like Giant Man or the Dragonfly only hurts the people that come into a line after that item. It sucks, but isn't shitty (though sometimes that markup they want can be). Going to a store and grabbing up everything and then charging a huge markup is absolutely shitty. But it's still fun to laugh at some of the prices people are charging for their flips right after the thing is released.
I totally agree with ya my friend
People hated on me for Reselling the No Way Home 3 Pack 😂 like bro it’s a PREORDER for figures from one of the most anticipated movies of all time. Anyone could’ve ordered during the window lol
I agree with you. Plus, if you think about it when the flippers buy up all the items the companies now think oh we need to buy more and produce more and so they become less and less scarce just like the ninja turtle line. Then the companies will re-releasethe original figures but most of the time with better articulation so if you play the waiting game, you end up making out on the deal I feel.
Some ppl invest in bitcoin, some invest in toys..
Bro im gonna FLIP THE SHIT outta FAWN when it comes up for funding lol make that fuckin 💰💰💰🤑🤑🤑
Dont you ever get sick of silly people Hatter lol ive gone through some of these comments and wow man lol "How dare you have an opinion thats different then mine!!!!" Lol just silly. Take care my dude and thanks again for the support 🙏
Just got back into collecting August 2024 🤦♂️ I missed out on the Dragonfly.
Don’t feel bad I missed it too hahah
Good point!👍
Flipping a crowdfund... the more people flip, the more it drives the price DOWN, due to the higher availability. If thousands of people bought HasLabs to flip, then the resale price would be basically the original price, even below retail if supply is higher than demand.
I’m gonna flip some Flippors
I bought an extra Galactus since I knew they would only made what was ordered.
People will always complain!!
Victimless crime... pre-ordering stuff is on the proactive end of flipping.
Hey Hatter I just uploaded the TMNT origin story. Its a short on my channel. I think you'll get a laugh out of it. Maybe we can send that dude to watch it too so he can learn how the turtles were actually created 😂 great video my dude I agree completely about this topic when is comes to Haslabs . Take care Hatter 🙏
Well i never crowdfunded anything and never got scalped on ebay either ..the art of the deal baby 🤔
Who the hell do you think you are coming in here with logic and reasoning? There's no place in this world for that type of behavior sir.
If it wasn't picked up on..this is sarcasm so no butthurting..
I got 5 of the giant mans
So
When did Saul Goodman take over the channel? 😂🤣
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@@madhatterreviews6705 Better Call Mad Hatter!
If you got a problem and dont know who to trust ..Better Call Saul!
If those people had NOT bought extras to sell . . . Then their wouldn't even BE any for others to purchase after the campaign.
All they did was make the figure MORE available. And people complaining about the prices are basically saying that they should have fronted all that money and then gone through the trouble of shipping them to other collectors for no profit out of the kindness of their heart? 🤨
So Kickstarter is money based, so multiple orders or pledges contributes to the overall amount to make the project fund. HasLab operates differently where they need X amount of backers. So 1 backer ordering 5 items doesn't add 5 towards the goal. It counts as 1 because they are 1 backer.
so I had asked that in terms of the current Ghostbusters haslab and they said each unit sold counted as one backer. They should clarify that in some official capacity. EDIT - actually I was curious I just read the Galactus description and it says that each one sold is a unit that counts towards the goal and not backers
@@madhatterreviews6705hmm that’s interesting. They shouldn’t keep using backers then, they should use Orders or something
@@elko84agree
I guess it’s actually fair since they did technically help reach all the stretch goals....
You have every right for the amount of abuse Hasbro puts its actual loyal consumers through. The bullshit is endless the least you can do is try and make a couple bucks
Nice try Frank! We know that's really you!!
A vendor had Giant Man at his booth this weekend at Legions Con for $500 and someone bought it, not sure how much they wound up paying for it though but there seems to be a demand.
Generally those people constantly complaining about flippers are either too broke or don't want to spend the proper time hunter. I occasionally flip and there's really not that much money in it. Keep your day job. Most flippers lose on more items than win. It's all part of the game. If you really want an item you collect, you need to get your money right and go after that item. But definitely NO bots, they're just plain wrong!
Made to order and then sell after for more is not scalping. Scalping is swiping all the tiger paws from target to resell them for more cause they are rare just to return them after they found out they aint that rare anymore is scalping. Well scalping that didnt workout.
Well, one of the ways it hurts the community is by further supporting these unreasonably high priced Haslabs, but every backer is guilty of that to some extent.
If you missed a kickstarter/fund that's on that person, if you couldn't scrape 200 or 300 together and pay that over 4 months... meh. You aren't going to get a second chance on pulse... unless you get like one of the 5 or 6 left at some weird sale they won't notify us about, and you won't find them at ollies. But really, so many people could have paid it over 4 months. With exclusives this is worse, some people invest in them, they have very limited runs, and the idiot store allows 5 per order. smh. I get ther being a limit of 2... like 2 Tiger paws, or 2 once a mans, or 2 Immortals or whatever, but more and more people are making this side of it a business and that sucks when consumers and fans cannot get one or have it made to order, at least for one. Many of us just want one. And we would happily wait 5 or 6 months, as long as we are guaranteed an ordering window and not this 1 or 2 or 5 min BS.
What I never understood about people who complain is, at what point does a toy go from flipped to just rare and out of print?
I've had people yell at me for selling (flipping) a blu ray set that went out of print years prior. At what point is it no longer flipping and just rare? Lol
I agree with your point, but you know those Haslab resellers are the same douchechills that go to stores buying up all the stock to flip
Shhhh
Shhhhhh-uper job on this video???
Yeah made to order flipping hurts nobody
Your bread came back
At this point I don't get mad anymore, either way when it comes to stuff like toys. The whole "I don't make all that much money" argument is kind of pathetic. I can't be mad at someone who puts in this much time and effort and makes less than the price of a hamburger. Those people deserve my pity.
What does make me angry is when I see people do that kind of thing with necessities when times are tough. I was filled with absolute schadenfreude a month or two ago when the folks who thought they were going to make a few extra bucks scalping toilet paper were left holding the bag when stores refused to let them return it after the shipping strike got sorted out.
The old classic supply and command
That's the gold price Hatter, stop getting Game of Thrones wrong.
@@BooshmanLee it’s the iron price bc while I say I buy these things for legal sake, secretly i steal them from lesser men
Hey I’m first look at that
You win EVERYTHING now!!
@@madhatterreviews6705 Hey sweety pie! What do I get for being second?
@@michaellee3375 You fight to the death with the first guy! Winner takes all!
@@madhatterreviews6705 That's alright. I don't need everything. Just here for the Hatter wisdom!
Retitle this: "California Man Figures Out That Capitalism isn't Bad"
@@jontuell5338 hahah I never thought that it was bad… and I’m from Florida!
You don't realize flippers take everything off the shelves and little Timmy doesn't get to enjoy seeing it in stores and owning toys like we did when we were younger and when the children of today don't enjoy them then in the future they won't be buying toys at conventions..so Yes it is very toxic for scalpers to do what they do
@@actionfigurephill4131 did you watch the video? It’s about haslab. What shelves? 🤦♂️
The stock market is just flipping bro🤷🏻♂️
Nah I disagree 😅
What is your counterpoint though?
@@Omnivolv so you just dislike businesses? That is what it seems your opinion is. All businesses buy products with the intention of reselling, so that clearly isn’t the issue. Haslabs are available in any quantity and to any person who wants one (or more) for months, so they aren’t taking limited stock and forcing the price to increase due to limited supply. So what part of people buying Haslabs to resell do you dislike? I imagine you will be describing every comic book shop once you give your explanation.
You're literally defending scalpers, who are scumbags.
@@Vintage-Bob you literally didn’t watch the video, apparently. 🤦♂️
@@madhatterreviews6705 Yes, I did.
@@Vintage-Bob well then you don’t know how to pay attention because anybody could’ve gotten that haslab, there was literally no limit. You could’ve purchased a thousand of them if you wanted
@@madhatterreviews6705 As if any toy collector has a quarter million dollars to spend on toys. Get real.
@@Vintage-Bob yes because I was being literal. Hahahaha, dummy 🤦♂️
Scalpers are losers. Facts 😊
Idiotic. Flipping toys? Scalping toys? Gtfo of here goons
I always give scalpers shit at Ross. Pathetic oooo look at me I’m gonna make 3$ flipping this 😅 idiots