Game Design Tools: For When Spreadsheets and Flowcharts Aren't Enough

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  • Опубликовано: 22 авг 2024
  • In this 2017 GDC session, game designer Katharine Neil gives an overview of some of the game design tools available that might help game designers improve their work.
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Комментарии • 38

  • @AEJ1126
    @AEJ1126 2 года назад +48

    Section 1 : Industry Standards
    @4:53 Machinations
    @8:53 Articy: Draft
    @11:50 Skill atoms
    Section 2 : Experimental
    @13:24 Mixed Initiative
    @14:04 Sentient Sketchbook
    @16:07 Ludoscope
    @18:22 PCG-based level editor for the game Refraction
    Section 3 : Additional info
    @21:08 Progressimo
    @23:28 Vebefits of using game design tools
    @24:58 Limitations and pitfalls
    @26:36 Suggested Approaches

  • @waffleocalypse
    @waffleocalypse 2 года назад +9

    Would also recommend Ink and Twine as lightweight, free alternatives to Articy Draft. They both have multiple ways to integrate with game engines like Unity too.

    • @Cerbyo
      @Cerbyo 2 года назад +3

      twine doesnt have the right level of freedom when changing node structures. u have to know the order ahead of time. removing and replacing nodes is riduclous.

  • @DizzySpark
    @DizzySpark 5 лет назад +15

    Designing boardgames make talks like these interesting but tools don't often fit into a lot of what I do. Machinations and progressimo are probably the two options that speak to boardgames well. I have a flow chart for everything I make.

  • @lolindirlink
    @lolindirlink 5 лет назад +16

    Another good concept is creating the tools yourself. If you can build a game, you can most likely use the same tool to build parts of the game.
    Think of a dialog system, You can make it editable ingame, and save the results to external scripts.
    Think of a character creator for example (To make custom NPC's) And the ability to name them, entering their dialog etc.
    Or a level editor, not just for the end player but you can use this editor to make levels yourself. It could be faster, easier. And you'll be able to make them ingame (Handy if you build a mobile game, that means you can work wherever you are!)
    Most engines support mobile, so even if your game isn't made for mobile, these tools build in these engines could still run on mobile ;)

    • @defectivenull
      @defectivenull 5 лет назад +7

      The exact reason why these tools exist is because you should design a game before you build it, especially when you're in a team and you need to start thinking about design without having many assets or finished mechanics
      If you're solo, sure i guess but planning is still important

    • @lolindirlink
      @lolindirlink 5 лет назад +1

      @@defectivenull Oh yeah certainly true, especially to prevent Months of wasted work like the video samples show how you can pre-calculate many things before actually building it in the engine.
      I'm personally the pen and paper guy. (And a bunch of sticky note apps). I just need to write ideas and plans down to get it out of my system and for save keeping.
      Solo, so i'm the only one having to deal with the mess :)
      Folders are organized and ready for possible future collaboration though, it's not ALL messy! :P

    • @eddya4521
      @eddya4521 5 лет назад +1

      what you're talking about is actually called production tools

    • @ragoonsgg589
      @ragoonsgg589 2 года назад

      Be knowledgeable, but trust expertise.

    • @SunSailor
      @SunSailor Год назад

      Not completely false, we're doing this in our current project as well. The thing is, you have to dedicate the whole production process to this, but that was a non brainer for us, as the needed adjustment brought data oriented and test driven development with it. We decoupled almost every system on every level and this makes exactly this possible. Stands and falls with your dedication, experience and planning abilities. Although in the end, you only get a hightly specialized version of such tools, but with no boiler plate work within the tool.

  • @itsJoshV
    @itsJoshV 5 лет назад +7

    Great talk. Something I've thought about a lot due to getting the feeling that a game I'm playing is leaning on spreadsheet design a little too much. A lot of good information here.

  • @melaniestegman8046
    @melaniestegman8046 Год назад

    @3:00 a good design tool helps us create some order in chaos, lets us capture vague ideas and iterate on them

  • @jonathanxdoe
    @jonathanxdoe 5 лет назад +4

    I found Articy Draft 3 quite useful

  • @Skeltcher
    @Skeltcher 2 года назад

    So theres some tool that helps with visualizing the crafting progression? From Ores mined, to objects used to refine, to finally items made?

  • @gdomjan83
    @gdomjan83 5 лет назад +3

    The links for Mechinations and Skill atoms doesn't seem to work.

    • @0451K
      @0451K 5 лет назад +6

      Machinations seems to have moved to machinations.io

    • @Duiker36
      @Duiker36 5 лет назад +2

      Just google "skill atoms". It's been around for a good decade and you'll get the original articles (Gamasutra seems down right now? but Dan's website Lost Garden is definitely up) and some stuff talking about it.

    • @guillaumemercier3536
      @guillaumemercier3536 2 года назад

      @@Duiker36 Euh so a website talks about... who cares. The comment was it is not available so again who cares.

    • @m1n3craftPCtut0r1al
      @m1n3craftPCtut0r1al 2 месяца назад

      @@guillaumemercier3536do you have brain worms? What a tedious and unnecessary reply

  • @guillaumemercier3536
    @guillaumemercier3536 2 года назад

    So most of those tools we're not available or are not available anymore... Except Articy and Machinations.

  • @hamzaamir3305
    @hamzaamir3305 4 года назад +1

    which toll would be best for designing a fps sniper game for mobile phones?

  • @ciTatic
    @ciTatic 5 лет назад +9

    Bad intro, decent talk. I've actually been wondering about these sorts of tools recently, something between being forced to muck about in engine versus trying to imagine the final forms of paper prototypes. Not sure I'll use the tools much, but they clearly fill a hole in digital game design.

  • @50shadesofskittles9
    @50shadesofskittles9 2 года назад

    I just use Hack n Slash and looooooooooooove it

  • @b0red7
    @b0red7 4 года назад +1

    Can you do a review of Notion and Taskade? please? ❤️

  • @Chaosian
    @Chaosian 5 лет назад +5

    I've always found these kinds of tools to present too much overhead to meaningfully help with production.
    That said, more options is always better.

  • @Cerbyo
    @Cerbyo 2 года назад +3

    ya...rly easy to google these words and find nothing. and finding something u can't run it without downloading a dozen other sketchy things. wonderful

  • @TheAssassin642
    @TheAssassin642 5 лет назад +9

    Hilarious introduction.

  • @tonkrogerio
    @tonkrogerio 5 лет назад +20

    If she's not drunk then what's the hair all about?

    • @gamongames
      @gamongames 5 лет назад +34

      thats the old "I dont give a damn"

    • @nabarunroy998
      @nabarunroy998 5 лет назад +11

      that's people around her who were drunk

    • @mrpedantic
      @mrpedantic 5 лет назад +15

      She is allowed frump at a con full of nerds.

    • @tehr0x
      @tehr0x 5 лет назад +8

      When someone brings irrelevant information into a conversation to exclude themselves from doing something, it's pretty much guaranteed that the opposite is true.
      I have two kids, trust me I know 😂

    • @Half_Man_Half_Bearpig
      @Half_Man_Half_Bearpig 5 лет назад +1

      She slurs a bunch of words around 16 minutes lol.

  • @Cerbyo
    @Cerbyo 2 года назад +1

    worthless suggestions

    • @guillaumemercier3536
      @guillaumemercier3536 2 года назад

      Machinations may have some have potentials, but like skill atoms we can't find it so who cares.