This is going to sound like nit picking, but Adam really shouldn't keep saying "I'm not a game developer and I don't know what I'm talking about, but...". Adam, you play video games, you know what's fun and what isn't, you have an opinion, it's okay man. You don't need to be a game developer to say that something is good or bad, mate. You have my permission as somebody who has done game development in some way or another, it's okay.
I know what you mean. I think it is a byproduct of being a spokesperson on the internet. Spending years having strangers on the internet saying 'well actually' to everything you say probably makes you unconsciously pad everything you say in an effort to curb the crowds.
Uddhav Agarwal "that" one was different, "that" one was voicing an opinion without any research or knowledge about the topic, and end up like an ignorant commentary.
I don't think the game is bad it looks great visually. I just find it insulting that they are charging full price for an "early access" title. With promises to "add things later" is ridiculous. We as consumers are letting them get away with this. It has since sold a ton of copies. All companies care about the money a game is making. If they see its selling tons, then they won't see selling a hollow game with no content is a bad thing. To me that's why it deserves the hate it's getting. I will not be that person defending this shitty practice because it's a "good foundation." Its out now! We're spending full price now! Sorry rant over.
well said, honestly it wasn't even worth the effort of getting the game pass. Even with two friends with me we only had fun for the first hour, then it just became extremely dull.
Eh, this kind of crap happens a lot with these Multiplayer games trying to edge their way into the market, i see it a lot less with AAA focused linear action games, which is why I've largely grown tired of 90% of AAA multiplayer games because there's just so much goddamn room for error
The fundementals are there and the first hours are a lot of fun.. But it becomes stale after awhile. It has great potential they just need to add more.
Boobar But no mans sky didn't have players still playing after first month of release sea of thieves is a fun game right now if you have a taste for it but it's gonna be better I personally am gonna wait
Well if Lawrence is going to say this game is "essentially" $10 Well I Say it's essentially $370 ($250 for the Xbox One; $60 for Xbox Gold; And $60 for Sea of Thieves)
Omg I love it each time Elyse speaks french. She surprises me each time with her prunounciation. To ear her speak with a canadian french accent (well, almost there) and being one makes it so surreal for me hahaha.
Sea of Thieves seems like it should have been more of a physics-based romp with an emphasis on players making their own experiences. Like, a head-scratcher for me is why gold gets absorbed and becomes a simple number -- surely, in a game about thievery, money and goods should always be a physical thing that someone can give or take. That alone is a bit of a red flag to me, that the devs aren't making a game where people get to play out their pirate fantasies, they're making a game where players can repeat pirate-themed quest loops. Nevermind that they took the act of lawless sea-stealing and, in a great irony, systemized it. That's probably the biggest problem, right? That this is a game that turns an inherently unruly, unstable lifestyle into a consistent, safe experience. The romance of piracy is the danger and haphazard roughness to it, rewarding cunning and cutthroat decision-making. If Sea of Thieves doesn't foster that, it's in a poor place.
Funhaus and all the media hyped No Man's Sky to the infinite before it launched and that game was pure garbage. It's completely different with Sea of Thieves, I don't even remember Funhaus talking about it before. SoT is amazing, with beautiful stunning graphics and the best ocean in the history of games. And in fact it is a multiplayer coop game, something that No Man's Sky (SONY) promised and didn't delivered.
Filipe Herbert As it happens, NMS eventually did deliver on pretty much everything they said they would. I'm playing it right now. It's genuinely fun, or at least the kind of game I like. Probably not for everyone though. It's a slow burn. But I also didn't buy it until recently, so I wasn't one of the people disappointed by it at launch.
What Adam said , "I never felt that I was promised anything", is the most sane and adult point of view I've seen. Gamers get hyped and make up all these weird things in their mind and complain when their crazy ideas, which were never promised, are not fulfilled. We live in an age of hype, which births erroneous speculation which in turn births disappointment. That is totally on us gamers not the developers.
Altered Beast NO, this is not the gamers, what are you talking about. The problem isn't the game not making all the promises , its a severe lack of content. Microsoft constantly featured this as one of their big games at E3 presentations over the year and Rare's director say it was their most ambitious game ever. Comments like yours are why games like Sea of Thieves come out the way they are because people are such enablers. Its on them not us.
I've been saying the same thing since the whole NMS debacle. When I got it and played it for the first time it was EXACTLY what I was expecting it to be. :/ The devs said repeatedly that it WASN'T going to be another Star Citizen, but instead it's focus would be more on just walking around and looking at planets and shit. Just real simple. But people STILL were expecting some crazy fucking genre revolutionizing RPG shit. I knew a guy who would literally be like "Dude, we HAVE to play this together when it comes out. We're gonna be fucking space pirates and attack people and build a huge base on a planet and be the most infamous players and have our own space station and build a zoo with all the unique animals, and did you know the game is literally infinite and everything in it is totally unique??" And my response was usually just "What the fuck are you talking about?" He watched like half a trailer and read some online hype and COMPLETELY misunderstood what the game was, and I feel like that's probably exactly what 90% of the people who hated that game did.
I mean this dude....I told him REPEATEDLY that he was wrong about the game and he was so fucking belligerent he'd literally be like "Uhhhh, dude, I watched the trailer. I KNOW this is all accurate. pffft"
It feels like you guys are basically describing Monster Hunter: World with all the side things you want in Sea of Thieves. Which then bring up a question........why would you even buy sea of thieves if Monster hunter does everything better for $60?
Statiq It’s far more than any “weaboo” game I’ve played, that’s like calling Nier a weeb game. Any way if you want a pirate experience play Black wake or AC4, they’re far better pirate games.
The sailing aspect is really fun and it's a co-op game where you not only need the other people but you need to communicate and communicate effectively to play successfully or even competently. I have 3 people I played with (before we got bored and dropped it) that I know personally and would get on conference calls with. We all have different jobs and responsibilities. It's the best game I've played in recent memory in that regard of making full use of 2, 3, and 4 player co-op and communication. It's just criminally close-ended at this point. Every mission sends you like 2 islands away from where you are and there's an outpost every third island. So the idea of going on some long sailing adventure is a lie. You never really create a story for yourself because you sail for 5 seconds, complete 1 of 3 different piss-easy grind missions, then sail 5 seconds back for your pathetic reward. The combat is also absolute garbo and the ship respawn is fine, but the individual respawn is fucking horseshit. All they need do is make it to the bottom of your ship and spawn kill the person who repairs while their guys shoot your hull. There's no reward for doing it unless they have treasure. There's no reward for killing the kraken. There is no progression in abilities, equipment, or difficulty. You play to grind gold to buy cosmetic updates for all the same tools you already have. There are no better ships, no better weapons, nothing that gives you an edge in combat regardless of your dedication to the grind. There's not enough variety to grinding, not enough of a reward for doing it, and not enough of a meaningful end goal to justify it. I'm still in simply because its barebones nature is more or less a promise that more is to come. I'm probably going to pick this game back up once the first update drops just to see the scale of the things they are changing. My hope is that that stripped down nature of the game is strategic and done to preserve game stability while they work on the inevitable teething issues that MMOs experience. What they need is a MASSIVE update that addresses most or all of these issues in some way. I'm not expecting perfection, but I am expecting a concerted effort to expand on the beautiful framework they've laid out. My apprehension is not knowing the breadth and depth of the updates because pretty much everything but the sailing needs either fixing or expanding upon.
I am trialling the game for free for 14 days with game pass. I can’t justify full price YET, but just even in its barebones stage, it’s incredibly fun with a good group of friends.
Just having Elise and James looking at eachother and smiling during the muppet songs fills my heart with joy. (Edit: I misspelled Muppet please dont judge me)
as the spray pilot division of funhaus, i appreciate this being uploaded early enough for me to watch it before my flight. Funhaus thinks of the working man.
I'd like to expand on Elyse's idea about having an infamous dreaded pirate NPC and suggest that there be a chance when setting out on a treasure hunt to be offered to play that role, where you would get a stronger ship and maybe some abilities to help track other players. That way not only are you changing up the formula every once in a while, but also incintevizing other crews to work together to defeat them.
Seeing Elyse get so excited about Muppet Treasure Island made my week. As usual, I love the discussion! I'm always left with something new to think about. P.S. That's a rad bat shirt, Lawrence.
I think one thing everyone is forgetting is that Rare while they have been a know developer they are not a big company, they haven't had enough employees. Sooo the lack of content is really not that surprising because it takes a lot of time to develop games when it comes to modeling and scripting. To be-honest they actually add a whole lot of stuff to it for them having such a small team.
I really like that SoT doesn't go through a tutorial or intro mission. I feel like the opening cinematic sets up the game and leads to the 1 important point: You are a pirate. Go be a pirate.
People who purchase tickets to Funhaus Live get the added bonus of following the cast around after the show as they desperately try to see Infinity War on opening night! Get photos with whole gang and the scalper out front at the Regal Cinemas 14!
I have had amazing experiences with SoT so far. To address what Adam said, I have encountered Galleons where I have communicated in game with emotes and in game chat that I am friendly. I have even gotten onto others ships and set sail with them, attacked skull forts, fought the kraken, done voyages and just explore. This game is not a lead you by the hand game. I would say this game is more like minecraft rather than destiny. You aren't hear to "beat the game", you are on the Sea of Thieves for the shared experiences you have along the way.
Major_Lag It's basic human nature, people tend to become the people they surround themselves with, which unintentionally creates an echo chamber because everyone in the group most likely thinks the same on most things and shares the same opinion on a majority of things. I'm here for Bruce's wheezy laughter which is sadly non-existent in this podcast but that's what the backlog is for. There are podcasts where they do disagree with each other but like I said similar friends who are always with each other become more similar and therefore tend to have the same opinion and shared perspective on things. If it was a topic in which they truly wanted to have a full open all sides discussion they should have a guest on that is not from the group with not strictly an opposing side but not the same group think that comes from always being with each other and seeing how much already of things from the same perspective. I love the podcasts because they are long and I have no life but what I really enjoy is watching my buff Huskies and my queen get down on some games, drop some fucked up jokes and have a really good time while Bruce has a Wheezy asthma attack of laughter which inevitably ends in him farting in which James asks for matches.
Major_Lag yes I agree hearing people agree all the time does get boring what it's way better than those childish blood Sports everyone wants drama and arguments but like you said in your original post and which I agree with they just need more of a diverse conversation with somebody who isn't going to just with them because they are from the same group or have the same perspective because it does turn into a circle jerk instead of questioning each other it's like you said mainly just agreeing and then moving on rather than explain to all sides. Plus it's a format that they are still working on they are working on now to talk about political topics without being too bias and one sided but it's hard one like I said they all hang out together probably think alike and are in California, so by Cali state law they have to hate and fear Trump or get banished from the land of giving yourself Awards self-congratulatory disconnect from the rest of humanity. Lmao. I'm not even a trump supporter I just find it hilarious and sad that people hate and fear Him because they are told to by the media and other leftist libs, most of them don't even have a reason they believe he said something you never said or did something he never did in which Hillary Clinton has done almost everything they claim him of doing by silencing victims of her husband, being a Goldwater girl and calling black youth super predators in the 90s while not accepting gay marriage until she realized she could get votes, not to mention the fact that her in the DNC colluded against Bernie Sanders another Democratic candidate in order to give her the nomination which is fucking illegal and she still walking around talking about how she lost because if everyone else instead of the real reason, HER. Now she's back opening her mouth and everyone's telling her to shut up cuz they're sick of her same old bullshit disrespecting and trying to separate half the nation just cuz they didn't fall for her and then calling the news media that are sick and tired of her bullshit sexiest cuz they don't want to hear her spread more hatred and bigoted statements like half of America are sexist racist which in reality Hillary's been that way her whole life and needs a fucking mirror but vampires don't have Reflections in mirrors. Lmao. It's quite pathetic how quick people are willing to forget that she literally committed multiple felonies well running her campaign and then and other headlines we have one woman being arrested for 5 years for voter fraud which is excessive but we all know who she voted for... the one to set voter fraud doesn't exist, who like Europe soon will want to give non-citizens the right to vote and make political changes in a country that they are not a legal citizen of which is fucking pathetic! Life's crazy and too many people are one-sided instead of researching all sides before coming to a conclusion or the just start told what to do and how to feel and do so.
If anyone else played Pirates of the Caribbean Online, that had: - Fleets of NPC ships for player ships to attack together. - Raid-like events where a bunch of undead pirates would attack an island and people had to sail to the island and protect the beach. Other features I can't think of but I feel like Sea of Thieves could use some of those ideas to bring that direction.
In the game there is a giant skull cloud that floats in the air which indicates a raid island, to get the loot on that island you have to team up with another pirate crew in order to survive.
What's going on at the studios/publishers or whoever handles a game like that? Not one person can say: "hey guys this game is looking good for a demo but not for a full game if we're gonna charge so much" ... seriously not a single person that worked on that thought something was off? If someone noticed and actually said something and was ignored, that means they be GREEDY, and they should be publicly pointed at and made fun of so this can stop... (I didn't buy this)
If there's one co-op game that has done everything right in the ways that the team has mentioned is lacking in Sea of Thieves, is Vermintide 2. Solid opening, story progression, deep character classes, encouraged co-op and thrilling challenge.
Lawrence. For years one of my biggest fears was slipping, falling and breaking my ass in a bathtub. Knowing there's others out there reassures me that I can now finally bang it out with my girl in there. Thank you
The fact that this was intended to be on gamepass from the get go pretty much nailed in the fact that this being developed as a more “games service” kind of game that evolves over time. The fact that the game is very polished in its current “early access” state gives me hope about rare and what they plan to add to this game later on. That’s why I got this on my gamepass trial and it’s a total blast this way. Won’t renew it but will do so once the game has enough content later down the linez
Last Saturday I was playing with my friends on sea of thieves and we had the great idea of making a "pirate collective" where it was just a bunch of different crews and we'd split the treasure equally. At most we had 12(?) people in the group.
This is definitely one of those games where it’s much more fun playing with friends. If you’re solo dolo you’re at a massive disadvantage. I think adding servers where there are only sloops or only galleons would help the matchmaking problem they were discussing. That being said, I do however think the game is much more rewarding and interesting when playing with a crew. With this being such a casual open world game( if you will) it doesn’t really cater to the casual player.
34:00 I was soloing a sloop and began getting hunted down by a 2-man crew, as They chased me into a galleon, I actually did flash SOS on the lantern beside the wheel, leading the galleon to engage the sloop on my back, and letting me get away
AC: Black Flag had plenty of npc enemies but they weren't such a nuisance that you couldn't get anything done. It could probably be done in this game, maybe just limit them to set patrol routes or within a certain distance of certain islands
Adam was sort of describing the intro to pirate101 on how your in the ships jail and have to escape the (whatever the enemy was I haven't played in years) then start creating your crew and ship. I feel even though pirate101 is a cash grab because it is made by kingsisle it is still one of the best pirate games out their. (AC Black Flag was ok too)
You seem to have overlooked the fact that they pushed pre-orders and then snubbed all those that paid full price by then later announcing it was going to be a game pass title ... That was a real shitty move
Can we have a weekly cooking segment to the dudesoup podcast where Jon dressed only in a blue apron teaches bruce how to cook a blue apron meal? Then Lawrence and two others can harshly judge their efforts and declare a winner out of the two "chefs"
Xbox has a return policy, usually limited to a certain number of hours of gameplay and you can return. They also will let you return a game a year basically, you just have to be nice to support and they'll help you out.
17:35 yes you go out there to interact with other players but as Adam said he can't do anything with them. The only interaction between him and the other players is killing each other or downing their ship. Also for a game which relies on the multiplayer format to only have 24 ships on a map of this scale is just plain stupid because the player interaction gets limited and that leaves you with just going to an island and killing a skeleton or getting a chest.
One of the theories my buddies thought up was that Sea of Thieves was promoted, and hyped up just to get people to use the Windows Store since you can play the game entirely for the game pass thing.
So I think you guys need to play a little more to see some of the other features involved simply because I don't think you've been exposed to them. The skulls in the sky are raids taking place that have this wave of enemies feel to earn massive amounts of loot and I think the cooperation you were talking about around 33:00 is present there. I have rolled up with other ships where we agreed to work together and split the loot and at the same time fought off many ships at once while protecting the loot for myself (and my crew) it's been actually quite fun trying to wheel and deal with people and knowing when you have the power to be cutthroat and try to take everything. I think you guys are summing up the game before it shows you everything, which admittedly you wouldn't know because there is a lack of explanation to what you can do. I think they had a minecraft approach to how you learned but they didn't realize minecraft released after millions were already familiar with the gameplay and mechanics. Either way, I think you guys should keep playing because I think you'll enjoy it as you learn more about it.
Ran into the Kraken while playing with randoms, beat it, it was really easy and got NOTHING in return for doing that. Rumor has it you get an achievement. Didn't even get that yet lol
Like Adam mentions, this SoT situation is very similar to Destiny 2, but it was a sequel with 3 years of data and feedback and they screwed it up as well. Whether it’s Rare or Bungie, you can’t rely on a developer’s name alone anymore.
Honestly from the betas and the fact that Microsoft finally gave Rare some potential to make an actual game again it should have been somewhat more obvious that Microsoft was going to usher Rare into follow it's new found love for the Games as a Service model (see Xbox Live Gold, Xbox Game Pass and The Fact MS prefers to track monthly users over console sales). It's much more profitable to have one product and sustain it for as long as you can especially when 3 months down the line it's going to have MTX and it's first "big update". So with these intentions of post-launch support in the open and Rare stating it's an evolving game that will grow before launch it's no surprise it's bare bones. They both knew this hence the decision to put it on Game Pass, if it's a constantly evolving game might as well have a subscription etc. Should have been obvious to PC gamers more so too every Steam Early Access title says more content on the way you know it's thin on the ground. So sure there was a bamboozle there and they don't make it explicitly clear that it is getting all this support. But it's clear that Rare put all their chips on the best thing to focus on. Minus a few server side hiccups the game is polished more than the banisters of Buckingham Palace. The technical detail from the shared world experience of sailing a ship with friends/strangers to the water and it's waves and storms, it's extremely robust. It is a little disheartening for those that played the beta hoping for more sure. The argument of the endgame yet to be discovered keeps people wondering what else could be hidden in the game too but will probably just amount to an outfit and sail will let people down. But it is extremely fun, if you enjoyed the beta and are okay with what was in it, you'll enjoy the main game and all it's shenanigans and how every encounter could be miles different from the last one. If not, you can wait. I have great faith in Rare and it's hard to say that these days about devs after things like failed kickstarters, crappy Early Access that never gets released, Loot Box overindulgence and just buggy games. But Rare have proved they got the know how to make games, they're an esteemed company and already within just a week they've already communicated more about their game, it's issues and plans with the community 100x more than Bungie has with Destiny 2. It's not a game for everyone right now because it doesn't have enough content sure, but it'll get there but otherwise if people like fun online engaging experiences with friends and strangers it's worth it. EDIT: Just watching through now, a note on what James said, they've said all future updates expansions etc will be free, but they will have cosmetic based MTX down the line cause businesses gotta business.
Niall Webb BEST review yet. Keep on keeping on brother! To assume this is a finished game is ignorant and to complain about a game pass price point for it, is outrageous. The game is the greatest foundation ever created.
i think my problem with th game pass is that its like “You can spend 60 or 10 dollars for an month.” It sorta just becomes “if you havr to add an alternative arent you admitting the price is way to high and your just trying to save face by offering the gamepass option.”
Statera Meh, I bought it. I believe that in the end it will absolutely be worth 60. Considering all content from here on out is suppose to be free. Saying you'll never charge for DLC content, then charging for content is a game killer. I don't think this is a toss to the winds type of game for the two companies. They want and need it to be a flagship. I've still yet to come across a game with a more beautiful foundation.
+Statera Listen carefully and try to learn it ok? Buying the Game Pass (that includes more than 100 other games) for 10 dollars let's you play Sea of Thieves for a month. Buying only the game for 60 dollars let's you play Sea of Thieves forever! Can you believe it? Was it so hard to understand?
I think that hub world Adam was talking about is supposed to be what the pirate legend hideout is. Only problem is it's locked behind a boring grind to 50 for all factions
I don't believe the Skull Fort to be a 'common enemy' I would say it CAN be. But more often than not, people fight over who gets the skull fort. I would like to see some undead pirate legend in a co-op zone where pirates aren't encouraged to fight each other. Whether the encouragement comes from no pvp, or just law enforcers being able to step in against the law breakers, some large group quests that needs a fleet of ships to pull off.
You know how it goes for streamers: First hours: "Oh this game is good! the best of the best, it's so popular, i can play it with my friends and stream it, bring me some donations!!" Famous youtuber reveals how incomplete the game is: "Oh this game is bad! it's incomplete, it's the next No man's sky, i am gonna make reviews and blogs of how bad it is, bring me some donations!!" It's not about the game, it's about how much money can you get from it when it's up or down.
I love how at 44:10 everything he just described is in the game. Like there are some valid criticisms in this convo, but some of the points in here are a little misinformed
Sea of Thieves should have been Skyrim with Oceans. You have your main quest. You have things to do. Stories to playthrough. Or you could just explore the sandbox. But its too much directionless sandbox.
As far as i know the "dead tavern" is the place behind the door at the tavern, with some dude that wont let you pass cause your rep is not high enough, it opens at rep 50.
I would love it if you could actually have some sort of progression in Sea of Thieves that reflects the decision you make and the path you decide to take. Like for example if you go around killing lots of people and dominate the seas your ship turned more black pearly, ghost piraty. So if you see a ship with black sails and evil looking crew you know they mean trouble. Or if you are more of a merchant vessel your wealth could be displayed and you could signal that you just want to trade. Maybe you have valuable items that can be unlocked through the merchant path. That would also work for the emergent story type of feeling they seem to go for. So you could write your own story while interacting with other players but also develope your style while progressing on different gameplay paths.
People hate whatever Microsoft made even if it's good It's not ok to make one mistake for Xbox but it's ok to make many mistakes for PlayStation It's nonsense and comical
My friend had a very apt description of the game. "Its a sandbox without any toys. It's like playing pretend with your friends in kindergarten with a theme."
11:20 but that's the problem, the game is exactly like shown in the trailer. I don't know many other games which have crammed all their ingame mechanics into one small trailer from 3 years ago without the game having changed at all until its release.
Sea of Thieves is the latest in what I like to refer to as "Streamer Games" which are essentially games that the developers fully intended to release with a business model that the game is going to be a lot of fun to watch RUclips/Twitch personalities that are charismatic and tell good stories play. People see how much fun it looks like their favorite streamers are having playing it not realising that it's those streamers job/source of income to make games seem as fun as possible/to seem like they're having as much fun as possible playing them and making big stories out of them that the average player will never have a chance to replicate. Those viewers go on to pay full price for the game hoping for/expecting to have the same types of artificial experiences they watched streamers having and since they're not playing in a wholly artificial/mostly staged environment it's almost impossible for them to ever have that type of experience, but it's too late by then since they've already spent the money. It's a fairly scummy business model in my opinoin that largely targets minors and I don't think it will be terribly long before the phenomenon occurs enough for people to take real notice of it and start to understand/fight against it. For now though, tons of easy money to be made off suckers!
This is going to sound like nit picking, but Adam really shouldn't keep saying "I'm not a game developer and I don't know what I'm talking about, but...". Adam, you play video games, you know what's fun and what isn't, you have an opinion, it's okay man. You don't need to be a game developer to say that something is good or bad, mate. You have my permission as somebody who has done game development in some way or another, it's okay.
I don't know about that. Last time one of them voiced their opinion without the disclaimer they received a wave of dislikes on the video. Lol
And those people are stupid.
I know what you mean. I think it is a byproduct of being a spokesperson on the internet. Spending years having strangers on the internet saying 'well actually' to everything you say probably makes you unconsciously pad everything you say in an effort to curb the crowds.
Uddhav Agarwal "that" one was different, "that" one was voicing an opinion without any research or knowledge about the topic, and end up like an ignorant commentary.
+Uddhav Agarwal Making videogames and being historically accurate aren't the same thing my friend.
I don't think the game is bad it looks great visually. I just find it insulting that they are charging full price for an "early access" title. With promises to "add things later" is ridiculous. We as consumers are letting them get away with this. It has since sold a ton of copies. All companies care about the money a game is making. If they see its selling tons, then they won't see selling a hollow game with no content is a bad thing. To me that's why it deserves the hate it's getting. I will not be that person defending this shitty practice because it's a "good foundation." Its out now! We're spending full price now! Sorry rant over.
Two words... game pass.
I never even bought this game I got game pass to try it then canceled it but that still doesn't make it okay it still pisses me off for others
Good!
$60? Over here in AUS, we're expected to pay $100 for it. Not worth it in my opinion.
well said, honestly it wasn't even worth the effort of getting the game pass. Even with two friends with me we only had fun for the first hour, then it just became extremely dull.
I absolutely ADORED Elyse's beaming smile during the Blue Apron read, while she was watching Muppets Treasure Island. That is true fandom right there.
True love when James notices her beaming, legit cutest thing ever.
Treasure Island is best Muppet's movie
Thats because the Muppets treasure island was a master piece of children's comedy that's fun for all ages!
God forbid a game RELEASED with all the features the devs wanted to add. that’s just too crazy right?
Modern AAA development in a nutshell.
Big ambitions get in the way. And time constraints. I'm sure they wanted all the stuff in
Cesar Gonzalez Time constraints? They announced the game 3 years ago, which means they’ve been working on it for at least 5. They had plenty of time.
Eh, this kind of crap happens a lot with these Multiplayer games trying to edge their way into the market, i see it a lot less with AAA focused linear action games, which is why I've largely grown tired of 90% of AAA multiplayer games because there's just so much goddamn room for error
Dan carol Thank you!
I wish they wouldn't have started you off with the full map revealed. You would have to discover it on your own.
Jimmy Page or with the blunderbuss and sniper
“that chicks partying.”
“she’s dead” - Adam 2018
Tell peake i wish him a happy good friday
The fundementals are there and the first hours are a lot of fun.. But it becomes stale after awhile. It has great potential they just need to add more.
Floris Kunst that's the problem. They sold a 60 dollar empty shell of a game (early access technically) with promises to add more stuff later.
Floris Kunst reminds me of another game that was on a different console and pc..........No Man's Sky
Boobar But no mans sky didn't have players still playing after first month of release sea of thieves is a fun game right now if you have a taste for it but it's gonna be better I personally am gonna wait
Really? steamspy.com/app/275850 Looks like a few players to me.
Well if Lawrence is going to say this game is "essentially" $10 Well I Say it's essentially $370 ($250 for the Xbox One; $60 for Xbox Gold; And $60 for Sea of Thieves)
Omg I love it each time Elyse speaks french. She surprises me each time with her prunounciation. To ear her speak with a canadian french accent (well, almost there) and being one makes it so surreal for me hahaha.
Sea of Thieves seems like it should have been more of a physics-based romp with an emphasis on players making their own experiences. Like, a head-scratcher for me is why gold gets absorbed and becomes a simple number -- surely, in a game about thievery, money and goods should always be a physical thing that someone can give or take. That alone is a bit of a red flag to me, that the devs aren't making a game where people get to play out their pirate fantasies, they're making a game where players can repeat pirate-themed quest loops. Nevermind that they took the act of lawless sea-stealing and, in a great irony, systemized it.
That's probably the biggest problem, right? That this is a game that turns an inherently unruly, unstable lifestyle into a consistent, safe experience. The romance of piracy is the danger and haphazard roughness to it, rewarding cunning and cutthroat decision-making. If Sea of Thieves doesn't foster that, it's in a poor place.
I love the fact that Lawrence always share a story about how he's a real life hero during these podcasts xD
It's why we love him
Wait I missed this. What did he do?
Josh .Laidler He said it in the first 5 min I think but he didn't elaborate any further unfortunately :/
He mentions it about 30 sec in
Gustav Gisslén Oh yeah I heard that part, I thought I missed the explanation. Thanks for confirming I didn't :)
A real human being
No Mans Sea.
even no man's sky had more things to do at launch than this game
But sea of thieves devs said there will be more things I'm not saying that it's not bad right now but just wait
thats not why people are hating it, its cause they're selling a game with barely any content with the price of a fully made AAA game
Funhaus and all the media hyped No Man's Sky to the infinite before it launched and that game was pure garbage. It's completely different with Sea of Thieves, I don't even remember Funhaus talking about it before. SoT is amazing, with beautiful stunning graphics and the best ocean in the history of games. And in fact it is a multiplayer coop game, something that No Man's Sky (SONY) promised and didn't delivered.
Filipe Herbert As it happens, NMS eventually did deliver on pretty much everything they said they would. I'm playing it right now. It's genuinely fun, or at least the kind of game I like. Probably not for everyone though. It's a slow burn. But I also didn't buy it until recently, so I wasn't one of the people disappointed by it at launch.
Love waking up to a hearty bowl of dude soup.
I think most people like the game just disappointed by lack of content
What Adam said , "I never felt that I was promised anything", is the most sane and adult point of view I've seen.
Gamers get hyped and make up all these weird things in their mind and complain when their crazy ideas, which were never promised, are not fulfilled. We live in an age of hype, which births erroneous speculation which in turn births disappointment. That is totally on us gamers not the developers.
You need more likes
Altered Beast NO, this is not the gamers, what are you talking about. The problem isn't the game not making all the promises , its a severe lack of content. Microsoft constantly featured this as one of their big games at E3 presentations over the year and Rare's director say it was their most ambitious game ever.
Comments like yours are why games like Sea of Thieves come out the way they are because people are such enablers. Its on them not us.
I've been saying the same thing since the whole NMS debacle. When I got it and played it for the first time it was EXACTLY what I was expecting it to be. :/ The devs said repeatedly that it WASN'T going to be another Star Citizen, but instead it's focus would be more on just walking around and looking at planets and shit. Just real simple. But people STILL were expecting some crazy fucking genre revolutionizing RPG shit.
I knew a guy who would literally be like "Dude, we HAVE to play this together when it comes out. We're gonna be fucking space pirates and attack people and build a huge base on a planet and be the most infamous players and have our own space station and build a zoo with all the unique animals, and did you know the game is literally infinite and everything in it is totally unique??"
And my response was usually just "What the fuck are you talking about?"
He watched like half a trailer and read some online hype and COMPLETELY misunderstood what the game was, and I feel like that's probably exactly what 90% of the people who hated that game did.
I mean this dude....I told him REPEATEDLY that he was wrong about the game and he was so fucking belligerent he'd literally be like "Uhhhh, dude, I watched the trailer. I KNOW this is all accurate. pffft"
We don't hate it. We're just disappointed.
It feels like you guys are basically describing Monster Hunter: World with all the side things you want in Sea of Thieves. Which then bring up a question........why would you even buy sea of thieves if Monster hunter does everything better for $60?
Ryan Gradel because im not a weeaboo and cant fulfil my pirate fantasies there
Statiq
It’s far more than any “weaboo” game I’ve played, that’s like calling Nier a weeb game. Any way if you want a pirate experience play Black wake or AC4, they’re far better pirate games.
You can vaguely fulfill your pirate fantasy in mhw
Ryan Gradel Monster Hunter isn't a weeby game at all.
I have both games, and they are two completely different games. I don't see any similarities whatsoever.
Any podcast with Lawerence, James, and Elyse is a win for me! :)
The sailing aspect is really fun and it's a co-op game where you not only need the other people but you need to communicate and communicate effectively to play successfully or even competently. I have 3 people I played with (before we got bored and dropped it) that I know personally and would get on conference calls with. We all have different jobs and responsibilities. It's the best game I've played in recent memory in that regard of making full use of 2, 3, and 4 player co-op and communication.
It's just criminally close-ended at this point. Every mission sends you like 2 islands away from where you are and there's an outpost every third island. So the idea of going on some long sailing adventure is a lie. You never really create a story for yourself because you sail for 5 seconds, complete 1 of 3 different piss-easy grind missions, then sail 5 seconds back for your pathetic reward.
The combat is also absolute garbo and the ship respawn is fine, but the individual respawn is fucking horseshit. All they need do is make it to the bottom of your ship and spawn kill the person who repairs while their guys shoot your hull. There's no reward for doing it unless they have treasure. There's no reward for killing the kraken. There is no progression in abilities, equipment, or difficulty. You play to grind gold to buy cosmetic updates for all the same tools you already have. There are no better ships, no better weapons, nothing that gives you an edge in combat regardless of your dedication to the grind. There's not enough variety to grinding, not enough of a reward for doing it, and not enough of a meaningful end goal to justify it.
I'm still in simply because its barebones nature is more or less a promise that more is to come. I'm probably going to pick this game back up once the first update drops just to see the scale of the things they are changing. My hope is that that stripped down nature of the game is strategic and done to preserve game stability while they work on the inevitable teething issues that MMOs experience. What they need is a MASSIVE update that addresses most or all of these issues in some way. I'm not expecting perfection, but I am expecting a concerted effort to expand on the beautiful framework they've laid out. My apprehension is not knowing the breadth and depth of the updates because pretty much everything but the sailing needs either fixing or expanding upon.
It's shit. They charged 60 dollars for a 20 dollar indie style game.
TeamWake-N-Bake $10 game on gamepass
I’ve had fun. Not all games are good to everyone. I think pubg is absolute shit. But I know that’s just my opinion. Lots of other people like it.
yeah for 14 days you dumb fuck
Some Name yea i know thanks for pointing out the obvious in a very intelligent manner.
I truly didn’t understand the hate it was getting cause I thought it was an indie game at first... Now I get it
I am trialling the game for free for 14 days with game pass. I can’t justify full price YET, but just even in its barebones stage, it’s incredibly fun with a good group of friends.
I wish I could be as happy as when Elyse looks at Muppets.
SUPRISE BENSON! Benson is a good dog and I love him. Let him know please.
Because there is nothing to hate. The skeletons you fight again, and again, and again, and again have more meat on their bones.
Elyse over there dropping bombs and blaming poor Benson.
Just having Elise and James looking at eachother and smiling during the muppet songs fills my heart with joy.
(Edit: I misspelled Muppet please dont judge me)
"That chick is partying!"
"She's dead"
as the spray pilot division of funhaus, i appreciate this being uploaded early enough for me to watch it before my flight. Funhaus thinks of the working man.
Just here to say I loved James virtually petting the goodest boy, Benson, towards the end of this
I'd like to expand on Elyse's idea about having an infamous dreaded pirate NPC and suggest that there be a chance when setting out on a treasure hunt to be offered to play that role, where you would get a stronger ship and maybe some abilities to help track other players. That way not only are you changing up the formula every once in a while, but also incintevizing other crews to work together to defeat them.
God, I just love Elyse.
This perfect game you all are talking about is Pirates of the Caribbean Online. Now called The Legend of Pirates as a way to not have Disney issues.
Elyse looking low-key hot af!
Seeing Elyse get so excited about Muppet Treasure Island made my week.
As usual, I love the discussion! I'm always left with something new to think about.
P.S. That's a rad bat shirt, Lawrence.
I think one thing everyone is forgetting is that Rare while they have been a know developer they are not a big company, they haven't had enough employees. Sooo the lack of content is really not that surprising because it takes a lot of time to develop games when it comes to modeling and scripting. To be-honest they actually add a whole lot of stuff to it for them having such a small team.
Elyse, you're correct. Muppet Treasure Island is a criminally underrated film. I grew up with it and I love it!
I really like that SoT doesn't go through a tutorial or intro mission. I feel like the opening cinematic sets up the game and leads to the 1 important point: You are a pirate. Go be a pirate.
Lawrence proves when you drink like a fish you can speak to them as well.
'Tis magic!!
what would be really cool is if there were 5-6 different or random/procedural opening origin starting quests to make the player experience feel unique
People who purchase tickets to Funhaus Live get the added bonus of following the cast around after the show as they desperately try to see Infinity War on opening night! Get photos with whole gang and the scalper out front at the Regal Cinemas 14!
I have had amazing experiences with SoT so far. To address what Adam said, I have encountered Galleons where I have communicated in game with emotes and in game chat that I am friendly. I have even gotten onto others ships and set sail with them, attacked skull forts, fought the kraken, done voyages and just explore. This game is not a lead you by the hand game. I would say this game is more like minecraft rather than destiny. You aren't hear to "beat the game", you are on the Sea of Thieves for the shared experiences you have along the way.
41:00 James, you’re essentially describing skull fortresses. They require insane coordination
I wish these podcasts/videos were more of an idea debate than everyone just continuously agreeing with each other.
Major_Lag It's basic human nature, people tend to become the people they surround themselves with, which unintentionally creates an echo chamber because everyone in the group most likely thinks the same on most things and shares the same opinion on a majority of things. I'm here for Bruce's wheezy laughter which is sadly non-existent in this podcast but that's what the backlog is for. There are podcasts where they do disagree with each other but like I said similar friends who are always with each other become more similar and therefore tend to have the same opinion and shared perspective on things. If it was a topic in which they truly wanted to have a full open all sides discussion they should have a guest on that is not from the group with not strictly an opposing side but not the same group think that comes from always being with each other and seeing how much already of things from the same perspective. I love the podcasts because they are long and I have no life but what I really enjoy is watching my buff Huskies and my queen get down on some games, drop some fucked up jokes and have a really good time while Bruce has a Wheezy asthma attack of laughter which inevitably ends in him farting in which James asks for matches.
That's fine and while I do agree with you, I personally think it makes for very boring content.
Major_Lag yes I agree hearing people agree all the time does get boring what it's way better than those childish blood Sports everyone wants drama and arguments but like you said in your original post and which I agree with they just need more of a diverse conversation with somebody who isn't going to just with them because they are from the same group or have the same perspective because it does turn into a circle jerk instead of questioning each other it's like you said mainly just agreeing and then moving on rather than explain to all sides. Plus it's a format that they are still working on they are working on now to talk about political topics without being too bias and one sided but it's hard one like I said they all hang out together probably think alike and are in California, so by Cali state law they have to hate and fear Trump or get banished from the land of giving yourself Awards self-congratulatory disconnect from the rest of humanity. Lmao. I'm not even a trump supporter I just find it hilarious and sad that people hate and fear Him because they are told to by the media and other leftist libs, most of them don't even have a reason they believe he said something you never said or did something he never did in which Hillary Clinton has done almost everything they claim him of doing by silencing victims of her husband, being a Goldwater girl and calling black youth super predators in the 90s while not accepting gay marriage until she realized she could get votes, not to mention the fact that her in the DNC colluded against Bernie Sanders another Democratic candidate in order to give her the nomination which is fucking illegal and she still walking around talking about how she lost because if everyone else instead of the real reason, HER. Now she's back opening her mouth and everyone's telling her to shut up cuz they're sick of her same old bullshit disrespecting and trying to separate half the nation just cuz they didn't fall for her and then calling the news media that are sick and tired of her bullshit sexiest cuz they don't want to hear her spread more hatred and bigoted statements like half of America are sexist racist which in reality Hillary's been that way her whole life and needs a fucking mirror but vampires don't have Reflections in mirrors. Lmao. It's quite pathetic how quick people are willing to forget that she literally committed multiple felonies well running her campaign and then and other headlines we have one woman being arrested for 5 years for voter fraud which is excessive but we all know who she voted for... the one to set voter fraud doesn't exist, who like Europe soon will want to give non-citizens the right to vote and make political changes in a country that they are not a legal citizen of which is fucking pathetic! Life's crazy and too many people are one-sided instead of researching all sides before coming to a conclusion or the just start told what to do and how to feel and do so.
If anyone else played Pirates of the Caribbean Online, that had:
- Fleets of NPC ships for player ships to attack together.
- Raid-like events where a bunch of undead pirates would attack an island and people had to sail to the island and protect the beach.
Other features I can't think of but I feel like Sea of Thieves could use some of those ideas to bring that direction.
the "make friends" emote if done by both parties at almost the same time brings up the "add friend" functionality
In the game there is a giant skull cloud that floats in the air which indicates a raid island, to get the loot on that island you have to team up with another pirate crew in order to survive.
Killerbananer team up with another crew? What scrubbery is this?! My last two raids were won whilst fighting two other galleons.
What's going on at the studios/publishers or whoever handles a game like that?
Not one person can say: "hey guys this game is looking good for a demo but not for a full game if we're gonna charge so much"
... seriously not a single person that worked on that thought something was off?
If someone noticed and actually said something and was ignored, that means they be GREEDY, and they should be publicly pointed at and made fun of so this can stop...
(I didn't buy this)
If there's one co-op game that has done everything right in the ways that the team has mentioned is lacking in Sea of Thieves, is Vermintide 2. Solid opening, story progression, deep character classes, encouraged co-op and thrilling challenge.
Lawrence- "...no this was at a hotel in San Francisco."
read: "men's bath house"
Sea of Theives definately needs more content, but the foundation is there and it has the potential to be very good imo.
Lawrence. For years one of my biggest fears was slipping, falling and breaking my ass in a bathtub. Knowing there's others out there reassures me that I can now finally bang it out with my girl in there. Thank you
Don't let your fear control you, brother.
The Elyse thinking pose upon learning that the contestant was a Canadian... so good.
The fact that this was intended to be on gamepass from the get go pretty much nailed in the fact that this being developed as a more “games service” kind of game that evolves over time. The fact that the game is very polished in its current “early access” state gives me hope about rare and what they plan to add to this game later on. That’s why I got this on my gamepass trial and it’s a total blast this way.
Won’t renew it but will do so once the game has enough content later down the linez
Missed opportunity, "why is everyone salty about sea of thieves?"
Last Saturday I was playing with my friends on sea of thieves and we had the great idea of making a "pirate collective" where it was just a bunch of different crews and we'd split the treasure equally. At most we had 12(?) people in the group.
This is definitely one of those games where it’s much more fun playing with friends. If you’re solo dolo you’re at a massive disadvantage. I think adding servers where there are only sloops or only galleons would help the matchmaking problem they were discussing. That being said, I do however think the game is much more rewarding and interesting when playing with a crew. With this being such a casual open world game( if you will) it doesn’t really cater to the casual player.
Oh the pure joy on Elyse's face while watching Muppet Treasure Island, haha.
Elyse’s love of muppets is so presch. ❤️
Had to scroll way too far to find the Elyse comment. The little dance while James was talking was adorable.
Yeah it was great when she was mimicking Tim Curry and singing along. Muppets Treasure Island is such a great movie.
What would make Heather more hard netting is her history with various cringe subreddits. Her comics got posted there and she found it .
34:00 I was soloing a sloop and began getting hunted down by a 2-man crew, as They chased me into a galleon, I actually did flash SOS on the lantern beside the wheel, leading the galleon to engage the sloop on my back, and letting me get away
AC: Black Flag had plenty of npc enemies but they weren't such a nuisance that you couldn't get anything done. It could probably be done in this game, maybe just limit them to set patrol routes or within a certain distance of certain islands
I have never seen a dog stand so still in my entire life. Good boy Benson
Adam was sort of describing the intro to pirate101 on how your in the ships jail and have to escape the (whatever the enemy was I haven't played in years) then start creating your crew and ship. I feel even though pirate101 is a cash grab because it is made by kingsisle it is still one of the best pirate games out their. (AC Black Flag was ok too)
The skull isn't a storm. The skull is the raid that is currently going on. Y'all should try it.
Glad we get a good chunk of hearing about Lawrence's alcoholism. Thrilling content.
You seem to have overlooked the fact that they pushed pre-orders and then snubbed all those that paid full price by then later announcing it was going to be a game pass title ... That was a real shitty move
any one else seen what happens when you reach 'legendary' status in-game? I think there's more to this game than meets the eye...
gamerant.com/sea-of-thieves-pirate-legend/
Can we have a weekly cooking segment to the dudesoup podcast where Jon dressed only in a blue apron teaches bruce how to cook a blue apron meal? Then Lawrence and two others can harshly judge their efforts and declare a winner out of the two "chefs"
Xbox has a return policy, usually limited to a certain number of hours of gameplay and you can return. They also will let you return a game a year basically, you just have to be nice to support and they'll help you out.
17:35 yes you go out there to interact with other players but as Adam said he can't do anything with them. The only interaction between him and the other players is killing each other or downing their ship.
Also for a game which relies on the multiplayer format to only have 24 ships on a map of this scale is just plain stupid because the player interaction gets limited and that leaves you with just going to an island and killing a skeleton or getting a chest.
One of the theories my buddies thought up was that Sea of Thieves was promoted, and hyped up just to get people to use the Windows Store since you can play the game entirely for the game pass thing.
"Yeah... *Shakes head for reassurance*
Pirates 3 tought us"
*Lawrence chuckles*
DID LAWRENCE JUST CALL GILLIGAN'S ISLE A GARBAGE SHOW?!
So I think you guys need to play a little more to see some of the other features involved simply because I don't think you've been exposed to them. The skulls in the sky are raids taking place that have this wave of enemies feel to earn massive amounts of loot and I think the cooperation you were talking about around 33:00 is present there. I have rolled up with other ships where we agreed to work together and split the loot and at the same time fought off many ships at once while protecting the loot for myself (and my crew) it's been actually quite fun trying to wheel and deal with people and knowing when you have the power to be cutthroat and try to take everything. I think you guys are summing up the game before it shows you everything, which admittedly you wouldn't know because there is a lack of explanation to what you can do. I think they had a minecraft approach to how you learned but they didn't realize minecraft released after millions were already familiar with the gameplay and mechanics. Either way, I think you guys should keep playing because I think you'll enjoy it as you learn more about it.
Ran into the Kraken while playing with randoms, beat it, it was really easy and got NOTHING in return for doing that. Rumor has it you get an achievement. Didn't even get that yet lol
Loving this game of "Who shall Flopatron crush next?"
Like Adam mentions, this SoT situation is very similar to Destiny 2, but it was a sequel with 3 years of data and feedback and they screwed it up as well. Whether it’s Rare or Bungie, you can’t rely on a developer’s name alone anymore.
I just liked seeing James and Elyse while Lawrence talked about blue apron.
Honestly from the betas and the fact that Microsoft finally gave Rare some potential to make an actual game again it should have been somewhat more obvious that Microsoft was going to usher Rare into follow it's new found love for the Games as a Service model (see Xbox Live Gold, Xbox Game Pass and The Fact MS prefers to track monthly users over console sales). It's much more profitable to have one product and sustain it for as long as you can especially when 3 months down the line it's going to have MTX and it's first "big update". So with these intentions of post-launch support in the open and Rare stating it's an evolving game that will grow before launch it's no surprise it's bare bones.
They both knew this hence the decision to put it on Game Pass, if it's a constantly evolving game might as well have a subscription etc. Should have been obvious to PC gamers more so too every Steam Early Access title says more content on the way you know it's thin on the ground. So sure there was a bamboozle there and they don't make it explicitly clear that it is getting all this support.
But it's clear that Rare put all their chips on the best thing to focus on. Minus a few server side hiccups the game is polished more than the banisters of Buckingham Palace. The technical detail from the shared world experience of sailing a ship with friends/strangers to the water and it's waves and storms, it's extremely robust.
It is a little disheartening for those that played the beta hoping for more sure. The argument of the endgame yet to be discovered keeps people wondering what else could be hidden in the game too but will probably just amount to an outfit and sail will let people down. But it is extremely fun, if you enjoyed the beta and are okay with what was in it, you'll enjoy the main game and all it's shenanigans and how every encounter could be miles different from the last one. If not, you can wait.
I have great faith in Rare and it's hard to say that these days about devs after things like failed kickstarters, crappy Early Access that never gets released, Loot Box overindulgence and just buggy games. But Rare have proved they got the know how to make games, they're an esteemed company and already within just a week they've already communicated more about their game, it's issues and plans with the community 100x more than Bungie has with Destiny 2.
It's not a game for everyone right now because it doesn't have enough content sure, but it'll get there but otherwise if people like fun online engaging experiences with friends and strangers it's worth it.
EDIT: Just watching through now, a note on what James said, they've said all future updates expansions etc will be free, but they will have cosmetic based MTX down the line cause businesses gotta business.
Niall Webb BEST review yet. Keep on keeping on brother! To assume this is a finished game is ignorant and to complain about a game pass price point for it, is outrageous. The game is the greatest foundation ever created.
i think my problem with th game pass is that its like “You can spend 60 or 10 dollars for an month.” It sorta just becomes “if you havr to add an alternative arent you admitting the price is way to high and your just trying to save face by offering the gamepass option.”
Statera Meh, I bought it. I believe that in the end it will absolutely be worth 60. Considering all content from here on out is suppose to be free. Saying you'll never charge for DLC content, then charging for content is a game killer. I don't think this is a toss to the winds type of game for the two companies. They want and need it to be a flagship. I've still yet to come across a game with a more beautiful foundation.
+Statera Listen carefully and try to learn it ok? Buying the Game Pass (that includes more than 100 other games) for 10 dollars let's you play Sea of Thieves for a month. Buying only the game for 60 dollars let's you play Sea of Thieves forever! Can you believe it? Was it so hard to understand?
+Niall Webb By the way, your comment should be hearted and pinned.
I think that hub world Adam was talking about is supposed to be what the pirate legend hideout is. Only problem is it's locked behind a boring grind to 50 for all factions
The "make friends" option actually opens the player's profile to add them as a friend
Wow, Adam finally finished that jug of water!
Its like No Mans Sky with pirates.
Every single thing they said they wanted in this game was just describing the old pirates of the Caribbean online game lol
I don't believe the Skull Fort to be a 'common enemy'
I would say it CAN be. But more often than not, people fight over who gets the skull fort. I would like to see some undead pirate legend in a co-op zone where pirates aren't encouraged to fight each other. Whether the encouragement comes from no pvp, or just law enforcers being able to step in against the law breakers, some large group quests that needs a fleet of ships to pull off.
I'm with you, Elyse! Muppets Treasure Island IS a fantastic movie!
Used to listen to that OST all the time as a kid!
You know how it goes for streamers:
First hours:
"Oh this game is good! the best of the best, it's so popular, i can play it with my friends and stream it, bring me some donations!!"
Famous youtuber reveals how incomplete the game is:
"Oh this game is bad! it's incomplete, it's the next No man's sky, i am gonna make reviews and blogs of how bad it is, bring me some donations!!"
It's not about the game, it's about how much money can you get from it when it's up or down.
Elise is so overjoyed from muppet treasure island.
Just for you lawdog i both liked and shared this episode with a friend. Praise flopatron
I personally don't hate it, I do feel it really needs a lot more content. I am glad I got it through game pass and didn't pay the $60 for it
I love how at 44:10 everything he just described is in the game. Like there are some valid criticisms in this convo, but some of the points in here are a little misinformed
Sea of Thieves should have been Skyrim with Oceans.
You have your main quest. You have things to do. Stories to playthrough. Or you could just explore the sandbox. But its too much directionless sandbox.
As far as i know the "dead tavern" is the place behind the door at the tavern, with some dude that wont let you pass cause your rep is not high enough, it opens at rep 50.
I would love it if you could actually have some sort of progression in Sea of Thieves that reflects the decision you make and the path you decide to take. Like for example if you go around killing lots of people and dominate the seas your ship turned more black pearly, ghost piraty. So if you see a ship with black sails and evil looking crew you know they mean trouble. Or if you are more of a merchant vessel your wealth could be displayed and you could signal that you just want to trade. Maybe you have valuable items that can be unlocked through the merchant path.
That would also work for the emergent story type of feeling they seem to go for. So you could write your own story while interacting with other players but also develope your style while progressing on different gameplay paths.
Destiny didn't encourage co-op, it doesn't allow you do anything else outside of the crucible.
People hate whatever Microsoft made even if it's good
It's not ok to make one mistake for Xbox but it's ok to make many mistakes for PlayStation
It's nonsense and comical
My friend had a very apt description of the game. "Its a sandbox without any toys. It's like playing pretend with your friends in kindergarten with a theme."
11:20 but that's the problem, the game is exactly like shown in the trailer. I don't know many other games which have crammed all their ingame mechanics into one small trailer from 3 years ago without the game having changed at all until its release.
Sea of Thieves is the latest in what I like to refer to as "Streamer Games" which are essentially games that the developers fully intended to release with a business model that the game is going to be a lot of fun to watch RUclips/Twitch personalities that are charismatic and tell good stories play. People see how much fun it looks like their favorite streamers are having playing it not realising that it's those streamers job/source of income to make games seem as fun as possible/to seem like they're having as much fun as possible playing them and making big stories out of them that the average player will never have a chance to replicate. Those viewers go on to pay full price for the game hoping for/expecting to have the same types of artificial experiences they watched streamers having and since they're not playing in a wholly artificial/mostly staged environment it's almost impossible for them to ever have that type of experience, but it's too late by then since they've already spent the money. It's a fairly scummy business model in my opinoin that largely targets minors and I don't think it will be terribly long before the phenomenon occurs enough for people to take real notice of it and start to understand/fight against it. For now though, tons of easy money to be made off suckers!