The writers messed up, she didn't marry him but it was ok to be a mistress and pregnant. Why did these two agree to this storyline. Not that the actors have choice.
There were different writers for season 7, Amy did 1-6 and the revival. It's so messed up because she didn't watch season 7 and wrote the season 7 she wanted. It's sad how she ended things in the revival.
@@mariajuliamartinez2229exactly, this is very realistic. I think the show is great but if you don't know Rory was a shitty person, you weren't really paying attention.
Logan would NEVER give an ultimatum like this, especially when he was so understanding throughout their whole relationship (he was also adamant on factoring each other in). I think the writers had it in their head that at the end of the show, Rory should be portrayed as having every door in her a life wide open, and they made up this poor scene to achieve that. It was from this point that the writers of Gilmore girls seem to lose their touch, heavily seen in "A year in the life". #teamlogan
And ofc Rory didn't say yes, but I don't think that's a reflection of her love for him. She just graduated. She was excited for the future. Obviously she didn't want to get married right away, it's very understandable.
Actually after season six the original writers got fired and new writers were hired for season 7. A year in the life had the original writers once again, which makes the terrible writing even more confusing.
@Veril Bijou Ah it makes sense now. Season 7 was the worst of the original seasons, but ofc it was cuz i think it's a near impossible task to have new writers come in and continue a 6 season show. But wow, if 'A year in the life' was written by the original writers, they could've done so much better!! They showed such talent in the first 6 seasons. What a mess a year in the life was. Disappointing.
It’s toxic af. He doesn’t really love her yet is immature enough to marry another woman cos thats what his family wants yet screw Rory on the side and impregnate her? Not to mention he’s still a cheater
i’m a hardcore jess shipper but at this point before all the revival stuff happened, logan was the one and he was the one that got away and rory should’ve never let him go. they were together for 3 seasons, and it’s not like he was insisting the wedding happen right away. they could’ve stayed engaged while she sorted things out, and they rlly could’ve had it all.
Yup. I agree. She could have accepted his proposal and said there were things she wanted to do first, but she could have done them based out of San Fran with him. Big stupid flaw in the writing in my opinion.
I am late to the party but I was in the very same situation as Rory when I was 20 and at that moment it was just impossible to think to be so far away from everyone I know, from the usual things, to be somewhat depended and financially rather insecure, and he was way older than me… So I turned the proposal down. I still have the ring 10 years later and yes it breaks my heart to this day because I have loved that person for all this time. So, I would kind of recommend to people to at least try unless you are financially really vulnerable (like I have been but I think it would have been okay)… In this show though Logan was the one who had more options than her, New York has many businesses to choose from for what he was doing, big Newspapers on the other hand are rare. Also he said earlier he would perhaps move to her and put her in his equation, giving an ultimatum to marriage is not, let alone doing this on your graduation day.
Logan was always there for Rory. When Richard was in the hospital he was there, when Rory wanted to steal a boat he was there, when Pairs threw her out he was there etc. He practically paid for her rent when he went away. Logan would never ask Rory to give up her dreams and goals so I don't see why she didn't say yes. She seemed like she was warming up to saying yes but I think Lorelia got in her head. She didn't tell her what to do but you could read her face and see that she didn't want Rory to get married.Rory was ready to get married.
Miss Shay I’ve always liked Lorelai so when Rory said no it broke my heart a little because I️ fell like it was her who basically told her not to marry him
In my opinion she wasn’t ready. I mean it would suck If she would’ve said yes just because emotionally it sounded rigth. They were so young and Rory was trying to figure it out what to do with her life, so does Logan
Let’s be real Lorelai was lowkey jealous because she knew Rory getting married would mean that Rory would not be around and not need her as much. Sad how your parent can not see you happy unless they’re in your life 😒
Exactly! They could have just gotten engaged and waited a few years to get married! Though I do wish that they could have just not have made Logan propose and they could just have stayed together!
Statistically, women who married in their early 20s don't stay happy. You transform so much as a person by mid life most say they wish they waited to marry or have kids... at least that's how I justify nearing 30 and having a broken engagement in my 20s :P
Rory's upbringing shines through in this moment. Her mom the commitment phobe modeling that behavior to her daughter. I mean she did have her dad but he wasn't always there, she was never part of a normal nuclear family. And that shows here. I hated how this ended. She could have said yes and asked for a long engagement. They really were the cutest couple. They had real grown-up fights but still came back together and talked through their problems.
I mean, it's possible, but having single parents with commitment issues isn't necessarily that cause and effect. Evergreen couples can be dysfunctional enough to breed commitment issues into their offspring, too. Not all lasting marriages are happy and healthy.
I do understand Logan’s perspective of “what’s the point”. She’s probably still gonna be undecided in the future and she’s only thinking of herself now
in the beginning of this playlist it's all so happy and cute and makes you wanna scream for all the sweet moments and then you reach this video and it just makes you want to punch somebody 😭😠
Yep, he was the one that got away. He was the perfect partner, loving, caring, smart, and handsome... Connections with her dream work. Damn it Rory!! :c
A very disappointing end to a terrific show and a greatly depicted relationship. Logan had been the one! When you find the one, you don't let go. She was an idiot to say no and he was equally stupid on that 'All or nothing' front. And then they completely destroyed them and their relationship in A year in the life.
yeah talk about "i dont wanna go backwards". everything was so beautiful, why did they ruin it. and if they wanted to make everyone sad, why even come back and make the last few episodes?
Rory wasn't stupid saying no. She has the right to decide and she's not emotionally ready to get married yet. She just graduated Yale and still has a lot to figure out on how what to do with her life. Just being in love doesn't justify hastily getting married at such a young age. She was right to say no because he pushed all this on her and it's too fast
Logan was always the one but lorelai never liked Logan. like even when they go away for the Valentines weekend and Rory says she thinks they are the ones for them. lorelai's reaction speaks volumes because she's never liked the idea of Logan and Rory. which is strange and she was in no place to make Rory think otherwise. she's essentially no different to Emily. Emily let her personal dislike in luke affect lorelai and his relationship and lorelai didn't like Logan so talked Rory out of it.
Given what happened with her parents and how she freaked out when Dean said he loved her. I think this is something that she never got over. She is afraid of commitment and doesn't take it seriously, that's why she doesn't care that she slept with Dean while he was married and all the other bad relationship choices.
I see people commenting here that Rory made a mistake, Logan was perfect and everything, but what you don't want to accept is that a person can be amazing for you, but still you have some doubts. Marriage it's a huge important step, if you're not at least 98% sure you shouldn't say yes just because it feels like the right choice, just because the guy it's incredible for you, it's selfish if you're not completely into that decision and accepts only because the other person wants you to. And about A Year in a Life, I love that the writers created a mess in Rory's life, because it's so authentic and real, people are not perfect, you can be totally lost in your 20's, 30's, 40's, make bad decisions, feel like an outcast. Sometimes we just don't know what to do and unfortunatelly there's no manual that we can follow, specially when everyone around you looks successful and happy. She is changed and she is trying.
I also liked the revival. I'm reading the comments and I just can't believe people defending Rory should have married Logan to be a successful journalist (WTF?) People, in the revival the Rory's problem is not lack of talent. Rory is entitled and acts like a spoiled brat. Journalism is in crisis since 2008 and her beloved NY Times is laying people off for years. What Rory did with Sandee Says is probably the reason she is struggling. She thinks small newsrooms are beneath her (UGH!!!). This is a capital sin in the field. I'm a jornalist myself and cringed at that scene. So, no, getting married here is not the answer to her problems. She needs a reality check and to grow up. The revival is screaming this message. Especially when she finally said goodbye to The Life and Death Brigade.
A friend broke off an engagement at Rory's age because she was convinced it was too early to get married. He said he didn't want to wait another two years until she finishes her MA, so she gave him the ring back. It happens, even if people thought they loved each other. BUT, being one of her best friends, I saw them slowly drifting apart over the last months, lowkey fighting about the whole wedding thing, the conversations getting gloomier and gloomier, the tension between them, and finally the fight and a teary break-up, like, almost a whole weekend of her non-stop crying, despite being the one who made the decision. And they hadn't even moved in together, just two years of dating and getting to know each other. As for Rory and Logan, I just didn't see it coming. It was so sudden and out of character for them both. I don't know what the writers were trying to achieve but irl people do not break up as easily as declining another serving of a meal. Especially after three years together, including one and a half in one apartament. I would believe it if it was fully fleshed-out, if there was something else except that job (which was shitty comparing to what she would've have on her hands if she'd become one of THE Huntzbergers).
I can't believe her mother opened her mouth to say that she thinks she made a good decision she did not make a good decision at all. Logan never stopped her for doing whatever she wants he always had her back so I didn't understand why she thought that he would have stood in her way he didn't and he had never stopped her for doing anything she wanted to do stupid not to see it.
Rory was an empty-headed girl, jealous of Logan and the opportunities handed to him, and so stupid that her marriage refusal was evidence of not loving him at all. People say that she was too young, well, she wasn't too young to live with him without paying the rent and sucking on his money while living his lifestyle. Her mommy didn't mind that at all but was offended when he was broke for a moment. Lorelai was jealous of their relationship and afraid that her daughter will be married before her., while Rory was a puppet without a personality.
I want to cry every time I see this. I'm really upset that they didn't make Rory and Logan together, I mean she isn't gonna find someone who is better then Logan!!! :'(
Fr she didn’t have any future plans anyways if she moved to california with him he would’ve made sure to find her a suitable job at a newspaper near by
idk why people are so upset about Rory saying no. She has the right, no matter what. Logan didn't discuss this with her before asking, he didn't really ask for what she wanted, or needed. When he proposed, he talked about how she can work near him. He already planned out her life for her. It's what his family does. If Rory had married Logan, she would become like Emily, a rich housewife. And even if she advance her career, it'll always be his family who is attached to her. She said no here because she clearly is not ready. Her mom raised her to be herself and make her own life. She can make mistakes and regrets them but it will still be her life. She did later on still see Logan. But she herself seem free. Free from Logan's family and their expectations. She clearly loves him still, but ultimately he and her are not right for each other. If they were, Logan wouldn't have engaged and married someone else. His goal is to make his family happy. Him marrying Rory would not make her happy. It probably would have ruined their love. Rory's best love is herself. And now, she'll love her child. and it is what Lorelai has decided for herself before as well. One day, Rory would meet someone who just feels right. And even if Logan was her soulmate, he ultimately is just not right for her.
@@lauriecarson6483I’m team Logan and I totally agree with the comment up here! I think they did Logan so dirty bc if u know him you know that troughout the series he has always been so understanding !
Exactly, and I just hate that he plunged into this, making all of the decisions without really trying to meet in the middle. He initially wanted her to make up her mind about her career and do what she wanted, with him following her. I hate to say it, but here it goes. Seeing how she struggled with the job hunt and all that she had gone through while he was acting lazy and irresponsible, I think she should have ignored Logan and took the Providence position while she had the opportunity. She instead ended up in Iowa, in the middle of nowhere, far away from her family.
I was thinking the exact same thing! Glad I found this comment. It's always possible to find someone whose values you align with, someone who you can talk to about mundane matters at the end of a busy week. And Rory's still in her twenties -- lots of time to explore. I wish the producers didn't do her dirty in "A Year in the Life," because it's a betrayal of her projected character arc in this episode.
Marriage is not something people do right away, it’s a huge part of life and a really big decision. If Rory is not ready to get married and does not want to, then that’s her choice.
Exactly it takes a lot of courage to say yes and ask too Logan should have talked to her about it because she was not ready and she graduated that very day
Before Logan and Rory entered the Hay Maze at Stars Hollow, he told her not to factor him in and that she should go for the job that she wants and he'll adjust to her needs. It's interesting that he was almost asking for the complete opposite of her here?
this clip breaks my heart every fucking time. the way he smiles and waves to her before she graduates. omg. like come on. IF U AIN'T GONNA MARRY HIM I WILL, STEP ASIDE GIRL.
Rory was raised by a free spirit independent woman. I’m not at all surprised that she turned him down. I am however surprised that they never got married in the future.
I understand why a lot of people are really sad about Rory’s decision. I’m team Jess and even I can admit that Logan was probably Rory’s best boyfriend. However, I don’t really look at the breakup scene as completely devastating. Instead, I kind of see it as bitter sweet. Because while it is kind of sad to see Rory let Logan go it’s also good to see her make her dreams a priority as well. We also have to remember that she was only 22 years old. She was a 22-year-old who was fresh out of college and was just about to start working the first professional job of her career. She even had to admit that the possibilities for the life she could create seemed intimidating at first but they were also exciting. Marriage would have limited all of those possibilities. I know Logan was probably thinking with his heart and he thought that she can work anywhere so why not get married now. But it’s not always that simple. When you’re married you no longer make decisions just for yourself you make decisions for yourself and your spouse. And a lot of those decisions require sacrifice and compromise. Going straight from being a college student to a wife is a huge leap that she just wasn’t ready. Overall, I think she made the right choice. I know she made some bad choices in the revival series lol but all that aside I think given where she was in her life at that point I think she made the right choice.It may not have been a super romantic cheesy ending to the series but it was still satisfying to me at least.
The hesitation part of Rory to Logan's proposal says something about Rory's feelings for Logan. She loves him but not enough to take that jump with him, so to speak. It's strange, but there it is. I think it was hinted a couple of times in the show of how different they are at times, though it wasn't emphasized enough like when she poked fun at rich kids in her article. That came from her heart without thinking. She may say she doesn't mean it, but why put thought into it and write it out that way? It calls to mind Jess' words to her how she's not being her true self since when they were teens they used to make fun of the rich. Also, it seems Rory really wants her mom to approve of him first. Her opinion really means the world to her still.
Liz17 ... she´s 22 vor heavens sake ... most people can´t commit to a town or city they wanna live in let alone getting married ... Logan´s been a selfish idiot to put that amount of presure on her, if he´d talked about things and let her make this decision in her own time the result may have been different! Which only points out again that both of them were not ready to get married ...!
docstef MD I agree..but there are some who got married younger than that, are mature, and are still together and still in love ..not all cases, of course, but there are exceptions..independence and freedom are other factors that Rory was considering too ..I'm not saying she didn't love him ..she clearly did, or does in canon, but her love for him isn't strong enough to overcome her fears whatever they may be...in the Revival, that's ample time for them to be decisive about their love & commitment to each other..but its not the case for either.
The thing is ASP, the Gilmore Girls creator (from the grapevine, anyway), didn't even watch season 7 since it wasn't her "creation". Basically, it's as if the storyline in s.7 was never there. No proposal, no San Francisco gig for Logan at all. He lives in London doing the family business while Rory is still trying to be a journalist and we all know is a tough business to get in. They are seeing other people 'cause they are in different continents, not just East coast/West coast. The fact is they do love each other deeply so if the "gods" will allow, they will be endgame💕
@@Lucel18 In the revival, people are romanticizing their relationship but I think Logan was just a escape for Rory. She never asks him to leave Odette. She gets mad when Odette moved in because she lost the place she used to go to hide from the problems of her life. For me, Rory knew her plans were crashing and Logan cushioned the fall. Of course they have history and care for each other. But there was something odd in the whole thing. This is why it was so important when she told him "every ride has to end". It was time to grow up and face the real life and all the mess in her life.
After seeing these videos for too many times I've finally seen Rory's logic and I kind of understand her now. I mean, I'm a very devoted Team Logan fan and I think he is great in general and Rory's best boyfriend in particular, but she said no, because she had her own career dreams and yes, she loved him and she probably knew he was the one, but at the age when all doors are open and you can choose your own future, everyone wants to see their chances on successful fulfilment of their dreams. Usually I don't get it in movies, but maybe they should have really met later in life, when everything is somehow figured out. Now I just really would like to see what happened to Rory during these 7 years that her life became soo fucked up! Hope they could be with Logan now, when they have this baby (I'm sure it's his, because he is the one for her and fate just gave them a second chance:)
See, that's the point that I really don't get. Yes, all the doors in her life are open, but she's acting like marrying Logan would shut those doors forever. That's simply not the case. She even applied to the SF Chronicle before Logan proposed. Why did she never pursue that? I think she had two main reasons for turning him down both of which are equally stupid. 1: She picked her career over her boyfriend and 2: She is generally afraid of commitment. Career is important, yes. And being without a job and living a life like Emily sucks. But she acts like there are no jobs in SF and wherever Logan and her would and could have lived. At some point Logan will take over the family business, after all he is still heir to Mitchum (or however his name is spelled). And when that happens they are most likely gonna live in NYC and she could have worked at the Times (which would than be owned by her husband). Rory did not understand that choosing her boyfriend would not mean an end to her career. On the contrary, again he is heir to one of the biggest media empires in the States which could come in quite handy when looking for a job in the media industry. Instead she chose her career over her boyfriend and - as we later learn - ends up with neither of them, quite bittersweet. To be honest I would have enjoyed seing somebody make that stupid decision if I wasn't invested in this person so much because I spent seven seasons watching her grow up. This was probably one of the biggest mistakes that Rory made so far in her life and most likely in her entire life.
@@hannesmonsees9101 she's always torn with the choices she makes... Dean or Jess? Harvard or Yale? Jumping off the ledge and dating Logan was risky. She wants the Providence job, but then it's not good enough. Lorelai was wrong when she said Rory's not a gambler... she takes risks in her personal life by making risky choices. Jess was a bad, risky choice, Yale was a presumably good choice, Dating Logan worked pretty well for 3 years despite their ups and downs, not taking Providence was a bad choice.... But then, she's just entitled enough, or perhaps sheltered enough, to think that her choices will all work out if she picks it. She thought if she PICKS career-chasing in New York, it will happen. She passes the good opportunities in front of her that can lead to better opportunities later in the hope of something better NOW. But the thing is it's fine when you're picking between schools or jobs or even figuring out which boyfriend to date in highschool. But when you love someone and the only thing keeping you from marriage is a specific, but non-existent, prospect in a career field that you could that you could have pursued any way? She wasn't willing to make some smaller sacrifices. She wasn't willing to see that she wasn't the most important college grad. She gambled and made the wrong choice. But you don't gamble with someone's heart when you love them.
"Some day you'll meet the right person and you won't wanna hesitate, you'll just know" ...yeah, no sorry I wouldn't listen to relationship advice from Lorelai. And just look... years later Rory is just emotionally messed up and has no prospects. She was happy with Logan. She hesitated because of fear of change, fear of commitment, because of selfish ambition, because she needed more time to prepare for the idea, because she wanted her mom's approval... not because she didn't love Logan. She even said thinking about being Logan's wife made her happy.
When you're 22 you believe the future will keep offering new opportunities, new people. You don't understand that love like this is rare and special, and sometimes you meet the right person much earlier or later than you expect to.
When you're 22 you believe the future will keep offering new opportunities, new people. You don't understand that love like this is rare and special, and sometimes you meet the right person much earlier or later than you expect to.
Watching this scene gets me feeling all kinds of emotions, mad because she has a nice guys who will basically do anything for her and yet support every decision she makes but like sad because she ends up just in the same position as her mother. Yet happy because she wants to find out who she really is.
I've never understood why men feel like they can give an ultimatum and expect to be in the right. Plenty of women want to get married before their male partner is ready and are a lot more patient than "Hey I proposed so you have a few days to decide how invested you are." Bullshit.
Unpopular opinion - at the time I thought it was great that Rory turned Logan down and ended season 7 single (if we ignore what happened during the Revival). Not everyone has to be paired off at the earliest opportunity. At that stage I thought that the right guy for her was no guy, and she was only 22 years old - who cares if a 22 year old is single and is prioritising their career when they’re just out of college. That’s perfectly normal. Now of course we know the future that the Palladinos set out for Rory 9 years later...
she has a right to be uncertain. she's just graduated, barely has a stable career, and only 2 years into their relationship. He might've gotten the upswing in his life but she's still deciding hers. He gave the ultimatum and she chose her ambitions
Unpopular opinion but I support her decision. I don’t get why Logan wouldn’t agree to do long distance, especially after talking about true love and waiting 40 years for the love of your life. He was unsupportive of her goals and career here.
Yeah, as a supposedly career-minded woman (regardless of what happened in the revival), it made perfect sense that she put her desire to explore journalism ahead of being tied to Logan. He probably wouldn't have stopped her from doing anything, but she would have felt obligated to give up the things she wanted to follow him out West, which doesn't make sense for the Rory you meet in seasons 1-3.
I respect her decision. Everyone has to make decisions in their life. That's what makes the show realistic. Her chose just isn't the path I would have taken. Mostly because I'm obsessed with Logan
I don't understand this "all-or-nothing" argument from Logan when he literally said two episodes before that she shouldn't factor him into her decision and now he basically tells her "do what I want or we are over". Makes no sense.
She wasn’t even broken hearted when he ended the relationship. That’s how you know the writers messed up. She should been a messed just like every other time her and Logan when through a rough time or she though she messed up.
I never understand why saying “no” to a proposal is definite end to a relationship. Sometimes saying no to marriage is just a “for now” thing if one of them isn’t ready YET. Why can’t people just stay together until BOTH are ready to get married?
Saying “goodbye Rory?” After all of their history that breakup would have been full of tears and sobs. Rory wouldn’t even be putting sentences together, she would be heaving with tears
Rory literally should of said yes! Like she literally was pregnant With his child and she literally amounted to nothing 7 years later... while he became very successful!
Are you married do you know how much a commitment it takes to me married. They didn't talk about marriage he made plans for her they didn't discuss anything.
Why am I crying over a fictional couple’s breakup😭😭. I hate that I get so attached to these characters, cause its so painful when things don’t go the way I want them to.
When I watched the series I really wanted her to say yes. But then I realised how much I resonated with Rory's logic. I had a serious relationship during master's. We were in long distance. He always wanted to get married but I couldn't because I wasn't sure where I stood in life. I wasn't happy and going through hardship after hardship. I wanted to get married once I felt ready not only because we loved each other. Rory here is just 22. She has a whole lot of figuring out to do. So, even though as a fan of the show it felt sad to see them break up, this is the reality for many couples. I could totally see myself in her.
It makes me so mad that Lor never liked Logan. He changed for Rory and he never gave Lor a reason not to like him. She just hated the idea that Rory would end up marrying into the kind of family she tried to get away from. STOP LIVING THROUGH YOUR DAUGHTER. You didn't have to make it so god damn known hat you hated him. This was my favorite show but the ending ruined everything.
She liked him more than Jess. I never understood the hate against Jess. Yes he was kind of jerk when he was a teen, but he eventually grew out of that. He built a successful business all on his own. Plus he's the one that gave Rory the necessary wake up call she needed to get back to Yale, and then helps become a successful writer in the revival. You think that Loerlai would be impressed, but since Jess never kissed her ass she hated him.
I think people forget that a few episodes ago, logan told her not to factor him in when she made a decision about her job and that they would make it work no matter where she landed. Then he turns around and doesn't just propose marriage but lumps moving to California and limiting her job options in with it. She wouldn't just be agreeing to marriage. She would be sacrificing all of her prospects to accommodate him, when he offered her zero flexibility about his job and made the final decision without even consulting her. He made his job a non-negotiable definite while making moving across the country a condition to them staying together. That's not exactly a great start to a marriage and I understand why she said no. The fact that she made a lot of mistakes in her life after is irrelevant because a) she didn't know that would happen when she made her decision and b) at least she got to CHOOSE. Rant over 😅
I 100% agree with you, and I actually completely forgot (until you mentioned it) that Logan told her not to factor him in. He said that, just a few episodes ago, and then he turns around basically pushing her through one doorway. Wow, it really makes sense when you think about it.
So, she doesn't want to get married at 22 and it's HER FAULT?? 🤔 what about Logan 's decision to break up? How about giving her time so she could miss him. It's ridiculous. Then he didn't want to do long distance, but he did, in another continent, while engaged to someone else. Makes total sense
It's nobodys fault.. but if Rory wanted a serious relationship and for what?? They were gonna be engaged not married. But i respect that character decision and also Logan deciding that he could not go back from this (she not marrying him)
This scene has never made sense to me - not the breaking up, but the timing. Why would they have this conversation directly after graduation? When the time is limited? When a bunch of other people could come up and interrupt them? I understand that the writers may have had time limitations and such with this being the second to last episode, but this is still strange.
When I watched this episode I was almost sure that Rory was going to say yes. Then when I heard it I was heart broken, I didn't even want to watch the last episode. I actually cried. I think That Logan's reaction to the proposal was a little bad because if the dated for a little longer and he proposed again then she would've said yes. If only there was a way to make #TeamLogan #TeamJess and whoever weirdos are #TeamDean happy! Btw, I FREAKEN HATE THIS ENDING
Noooo, how stupid. To give up one someone you love like that. Without discussing it in depth. Its marriage, ofcource it's a big decision. God. Stupid. Stupid writing. Their relationship deserved a better ending. 3 years, gone, just like that. No closure.
I’m so glad she said no, 23 is way too young to get married, you just finished your undergrad years and there’s so much out there to discover. I’m not against people getting married young, I just don’t like the idea especially when you have all these great goals and aspirations.
some individuals already have kids in their teens and early 20s. but many of them shouldn't even be around kids lol some shouldn't even be behind the wheel of a car or handle sharp objects lol. however sometimes people make it work and grow/mature if they want and have support from others. some are dangerously stupid and don't make effort to change. this is any age though.
they deserve a better ending!! i literally cried my eyes out, deadass sobbing when rory refused logan's proposal. i hate the writers for this. i mean they could've been engaged and figured it all out please. and now the revival was a mess cause it honestly feels right to have a rory and logan endgame!! bye i'm going to cry again
Although I'm okay with the fact that she said no, I just didn't like how their relationship had no closure in this series. 3 years of love ended just like that.
I honestly think the writers wrote an very unnatural ending here... Logan always fought for Rory in every fight they had and he asked Rory to follow her heart just few days ago but suddenly he asked for all or nothing? This is just so not Logan. I understood the writer wanted Rory not tie to anyone in the ending but the twist is just unnatural and not fitting the character
I get what you're saying but he shouldn't have begged her or tried to convince her. He asked her to marry him. To share their lives and she said she wanted things to be open. They weren't in the same place. After three years and ups and downs in the relationship, they didn't want the same thing for their lives at this point. Him walking away was the right thing. What Lorelai said here was right.
Out of all the stupid things Rory did, refusing to marry Logan is the worse, this is on top of her cheating on Dean with Jesse, on top of her sleeping with a married Dean, cheating on Dean again with Logan, stealing a boat with Logan because his father told her the truth and she couldn't take the truth, dropping out of college, speaking nasty to her father, etc. She could have still done the fellowship while being engaged to Logan, it didn't have to be an either or situation. She would have always been the happiest with Logan and by refusing him she set herself up for failure. She could have been a journalist in SF, she could have continued living as selfishly as she wanted, Logan never tied her up and chained her up inside the home. She denied herself clearly the thing she wanted most, especially since she was willing to carry on an affair with him when he was engaged to someone else and she was dating poor Paul. Logan's father was correct she didn't have it, she should have chosen new avenues. She was talented and she could have put her talents to use in different fields. They should have ended up together.
Everyone’s say Rory’s an idiot for not marrying Logan or its Lorelais fault but Rory made the right decision for herself at the time yes Logan was there for her and was a good boyfriend at the time but she wasn’t ready she had her dreams even if 7 years later she didn’t accomplish them and was in a pretty low place if she had married Logan I don’t think they would have stayed together the revival showcased that even someone who seemed to have it all together since they were born can have messy 20s and set up the ending up to interpretation by the viewers personally I think it showcases Rory as a Lorelai Jess as her soulmate ie luke and Logan as someone she loved but was never ready to marry or Christopher (Alexis even says she see a lot of her characters dad in Logan and that’s y Rory is attracted to him they have tons of similarities their relationships with their dads, wealthy past, etc.)
When he says what is the point,,, makes you think where was all that love. the point is that you get to keep the person you love and enjoy being with and you would rather pass that up cause she is not ready to commit but would commit to be with you either way. how sad!!
I cry every single time I see this and when I think back on it she was planning to marry him the whole time but then she said no and I was kind of angry cause she was planning to he was the best thing for her and she was the best thing for him they were soulmates
Everyone is talking about Rory making the wrong decision, but for me Logan was the one that didn't make any sense. The all or nothing approach is ridiculous and it doesn't make sense with their story and with the man Logan was turning out to be. I am Team Logan and hate this scene. (Ps: but I loooove all of your playlist so much)
I'm rewatching from the beginning and knowing this is what comes has cast this cloud over it all. I go from enjoying Rory the most and rooting for this girl to come out of this messy environment to make Emily and Richard proud of their family, their granddaughter, and then daughter for raising this epic cool genius kid. To seeing her bratty and spoiled. And mixed up between two words, that of privilege and that of being judgmental of privilege, she never takes responsibility and never really grows up into the person you imagine her to be when you watch from the start. Logan grew into her perfect partner. He was bratty and spoiled too, but he was there..he wanted to be there. Rory copies lorelai in not sticking with her Christopher, but logan wasn't Christopher and Rory isn't lorelai and it is a disappointing ending. If this had ended with a yes.. You wouldn't have needed the revival. This left so many loose ends.
They gave up so quickly. They were not ready to married because logan got the job but rory hasnt a job. Rory hadn't set it up yet but they were should try to be together. They were should fight for eachother. Then in the 'a year in the life' they screwed up.
I hate that Rory seems to be a taker let people fall in love with her claiming she wants commitment and when they get to the point she turns her attention to someone else or she's not committed. She is selfish and wants what she's not willing to give both her and lorolie are that way, don't want to commit to the guy they have. They always want the guy they don't have when they get that guy they want the one they didn't want or had before. This is irritating.
I despise the last two scenes with Logan because I don't think it's realistic for a couple who spent three years together to end thier relationship so suddenly by talking about it at 1. Her grandparents house in the midst of a party and 2. Public grounds of Yale. It just seemed like they both placed so little weight on finding a reasonable compromise to stay together when they've fought and compromised to stay in a long distance relathionship for the last two years of thier three year relationship.
Almost 20 years and I’m still livid that Rory and Logan did not end up together and the. Have all their character growth smashed in that ridiculous revival. They did the fans dirty 😢
After saying no there was no way he was gonna take her as serious again (it was all or nothing)... even in the revival the fact they even still communicated shows how much he still loved her... where they were 10 yrs later is actually optimistic tbh.
They could have stayed engaged for a while regarding them being so young, and to be fair as a journalist to be she really could have worked anywhere and it still would have been open and unsure and free if she moved to california. I don't understand it, I mean sure she was surprised but they obviously loved each other and letting go so fast and all of a sudden seems really strange and not fitting at all
They ruined both characters. People go through so much worst in life and still end up together after many years. They turned Rory into a lame millennial and Logan into a lowlife asshole. Come on..
Everyone keeps saying this it’s Lorelei’s fault that she said no, and I totally agree that they have co-dependency issues, but I honestly don’t think Rory was ready either way. This whole series she went from being Lorelei’s daughter, to Richard and Emily’s granddaughter, and then she would’ve been Logan’s wife. Girl needed to find her own identity and learn how to be her own person. Not saying that Logan wouldn’t have allowed her to do that. I wish they would’ve just agreed to go to Cali together and had a long engagement, or even just go together while still dating
Everyone blames Rory for turning him down, but I can’t be the only one who thinks Logan was foolish for giving her an ultimatum. They were in their early twenties. They could have been together without tying the knot just yet. Still, I think Rory would be better off with him as her partner/husband.
she what? said no because she wanted to make life choices that only included her in them? but yet in the remakes shes make as logans side chick and not any better off than she was when she left yale. and as for the no job part doesnt like going to Yale automatically get ur job once youve left?
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The writers messed up, she didn't marry him but it was ok to be a mistress and pregnant. Why did these two agree to this storyline. Not that the actors have choice.
I totally agree. I was so disappointed with the new not organised Rory in the new season.
She thought she cuold do better when she coul’nt she Went back 2 him 2 late for her
There were different writers for season 7, Amy did 1-6 and the revival. It's so messed up because she didn't watch season 7 and wrote the season 7 she wanted. It's sad how she ended things in the revival.
@@mariajuliamartinez2229exactly, this is very realistic. I think the show is great but if you don't know Rory was a shitty person, you weren't really paying attention.
@@Danoriel they both were 😼 lorelay taking advantage from Luke as well
This scene... my heart is breaking. Team Logan forever. It’s his baby. I’m still rooting for them. No matter what.
same !!
Rory is an idiot. They're perfect for each other.
Same
@@aaarb20 She was so young. I understand her
Same
She was sooo young, so I understand it. But 9 years later..she should tell him she wanna marry him
Logan would NEVER give an ultimatum like this, especially when he was so understanding throughout their whole relationship (he was also adamant on factoring each other in). I think the writers had it in their head that at the end of the show, Rory should be portrayed as having every door in her a life wide open, and they made up this poor scene to achieve that. It was from this point that the writers of Gilmore girls seem to lose their touch, heavily seen in "A year in the life".
#teamlogan
And ofc Rory didn't say yes, but I don't think that's a reflection of her love for him. She just graduated. She was excited for the future. Obviously she didn't want to get married right away, it's very understandable.
Agreed. The sad ending is so forced and not fitting the character of Logan. The writer messed it up
Actually after season six the original writers got fired and new writers were hired for season 7. A year in the life had the original writers once again, which makes the terrible writing even more confusing.
@Veril Bijou Ah it makes sense now. Season 7 was the worst of the original seasons, but ofc it was cuz i think it's a near impossible task to have new writers come in and continue a 6 season show.
But wow, if 'A year in the life' was written by the original writers, they could've done so much better!! They showed such talent in the first 6 seasons.
What a mess a year in the life was. Disappointing.
it's bc they changed writers :/
He called her Rory and not Ace... yup, it's over.
He still calls her Ace in the revival season. It'll never be over between them.
omg I hadn't noticed it
It’s toxic af. He doesn’t really love her yet is immature enough to marry another woman cos thats what his family wants yet screw Rory on the side and impregnate her? Not to mention he’s still a cheater
Yea they might as well get married but not right after she graduated maybe a few years later
It made my heart drop
i’m a hardcore jess shipper but at this point before all the revival stuff happened, logan was the one and he was the one that got away and rory should’ve never let him go. they were together for 3 seasons, and it’s not like he was insisting the wedding happen right away. they could’ve stayed engaged while she sorted things out, and they rlly could’ve had it all.
you do know that loralai and jake are now married so rory and jess are related THEY CANT DATE!
Lita Lising Their related and also their the wordy ship out there
@@luellaashforth2292 why
Yup. I agree. She could have accepted his proposal and said there were things she wanted to do first, but she could have done them based out of San Fran with him. Big stupid flaw in the writing in my opinion.
I am late to the party but I was in the very same situation as Rory when I was 20 and at that moment it was just impossible to think to be so far away from everyone I know, from the usual things, to be somewhat depended and financially rather insecure, and he was way older than me… So I turned the proposal down. I still have the ring 10 years later and yes it breaks my heart to this day because I have loved that person for all this time. So, I would kind of recommend to people to at least try unless you are financially really vulnerable (like I have been but I think it would have been okay)… In this show though Logan was the one who had more options than her, New York has many businesses to choose from for what he was doing, big Newspapers on the other hand are rare. Also he said earlier he would perhaps move to her and put her in his equation, giving an ultimatum to marriage is not, let alone doing this on your graduation day.
Logan was always there for Rory. When Richard was in the hospital he was there, when Rory wanted to steal a boat he was there, when Pairs threw her out he was there etc. He practically paid for her rent when he went away. Logan would never ask Rory to give up her dreams and goals so I don't see why she didn't say yes. She seemed like she was warming up to saying yes but I think Lorelia got in her head. She didn't tell her what to do but you could read her face and see that she didn't want Rory to get married.Rory was ready to get married.
Miss Shay fn
Miss Shay I’ve always liked Lorelai so when Rory said no it broke my heart a little because I️ fell like it was her who basically told her not to marry him
so true
In my opinion she wasn’t ready. I mean it would suck If she would’ve said yes just because emotionally it sounded rigth. They were so young and Rory was trying to figure it out what to do with her life, so does Logan
Let’s be real Lorelai was lowkey jealous because she knew Rory getting married would mean that Rory would not be around and not need her as much. Sad how your parent can not see you happy unless they’re in your life 😒
When Rory here says 'theres so much in my life that is undecided'- 7 years later, Rory is nowhere in her life. Should've married Logan!
Exactly! They could have just gotten engaged and waited a few years to get married! Though I do wish that they could have just not have made Logan propose and they could just have stayed together!
That revival was a mess, very disappointed in the writers
Exactly they didn't need to get married the next day
how do you know she'd have anything in her life? plus many people don't stay w/ their college bf or gf
Statistically, women who married in their early 20s don't stay happy. You transform so much as a person by mid life most say they wish they waited to marry or have kids... at least that's how I justify nearing 30 and having a broken engagement in my 20s :P
You can see the exact moment that the story line went to shit.
Rory's upbringing shines through in this moment. Her mom the commitment phobe modeling that behavior to her daughter. I mean she did have her dad but he wasn't always there, she was never part of a normal nuclear family. And that shows here. I hated how this ended. She could have said yes and asked for a long engagement. They really were the cutest couple. They had real grown-up fights but still came back together and talked through their problems.
I mean, it's possible, but having single parents with commitment issues isn't necessarily that cause and effect. Evergreen couples can be dysfunctional enough to breed commitment issues into their offspring, too. Not all lasting marriages are happy and healthy.
A long engagement might have been what they needed
THE WORST DECISION RORY EVER MADE.....
she should have married him
I would have to agree
Yeah, but being a part of his family empire wouldn't be her cup of tea.
Only if Logan would protect her. And I believe he would.
Team Logan forever.
Really??? Because she didn't want to get married??? What's wrong with you?? Y
Not all women wants to get married
@@SaLyChakala Perhaps they meant, that Rory never found anyone better and that's a fact.
Plus, she doesn't have financial stability.
I do understand Logan’s perspective of “what’s the point”. She’s probably still gonna be undecided in the future and she’s only thinking of herself now
He clearly loved her way more than she loved him
Like Dean, Jess, Tristan, Marty, Paul
@@IchibanOjousama Tristian has nothing to with this. Rory didnt loke him ao why bring hin up
that is the problem with all of her boyfriends. she has commitment issues just like lorelai
in the beginning of this playlist it's all so happy and cute and makes you wanna scream for all the sweet moments and then you reach this video and it just makes you want to punch somebody 😭😠
Yep, he was the one that got away.
He was the perfect partner, loving, caring, smart, and handsome... Connections with her dream work.
Damn it Rory!! :c
She should have been waaaaaayyyyyy more upset than she was
yea but she chose to say no. he didn't reject her. I guess he'd be more upset. she's still upset. it was a hard choice for her
it’s her graduation why should she be upset, she is allowed to make the decision not to say yes…
A very disappointing end to a terrific show and a greatly depicted relationship. Logan had been the one! When you find the one, you don't let go. She was an idiot to say no and he was equally stupid on that 'All or nothing' front. And then they completely destroyed them and their relationship in A year in the life.
Sarah Ahmed yeah and then they were sleeping together whilst he was engaged to someone else. 🙄
yeah talk about "i dont wanna go backwards". everything was so beautiful, why did they ruin it. and if they wanted to make everyone sad, why even come back and make the last few episodes?
Amen sister
Wasn't that last season written by someone other than Amy Paladino? Figures.
Rory wasn't stupid saying no. She has the right to decide and she's not emotionally ready to get married yet. She just graduated Yale and still has a lot to figure out on how what to do with her life. Just being in love doesn't justify hastily getting married at such a young age. She was right to say no because he pushed all this on her and it's too fast
But she didn’t meet anyone else. She was still afraid of commitment
Joselyn548 she chose to pick her own path first
Logan was always the one but lorelai never liked Logan. like even when they go away for the Valentines weekend and Rory says she thinks they are the ones for them. lorelai's reaction speaks volumes because she's never liked the idea of Logan and Rory. which is strange and she was in no place to make Rory think otherwise. she's essentially no different to Emily. Emily let her personal dislike in luke affect lorelai and his relationship and lorelai didn't like Logan so talked Rory out of it.
@@Kashish4Eijaz #LikeMotherLikeDaughter Lorelai and Emily and Rory and Lorelai Nobody is ever good enough for the other.
Given what happened with her parents and how she freaked out when Dean said he loved her. I think this is something that she never got over. She is afraid of commitment and doesn't take it seriously, that's why she doesn't care that she slept with Dean while he was married and all the other bad relationship choices.
Who said she have to met someone. Maybe she wanted to stay single for while.
I see people commenting here that Rory made a mistake, Logan was perfect and everything, but what you don't want to accept is that a person can be amazing for you, but still you have some doubts. Marriage it's a huge important step, if you're not at least 98% sure you shouldn't say yes just because it feels like the right choice, just because the guy it's incredible for you, it's selfish if you're not completely into that decision and accepts only because the other person wants you to.
And about A Year in a Life, I love that the writers created a mess in Rory's life, because it's so authentic and real, people are not perfect, you can be totally lost in your 20's, 30's, 40's, make bad decisions, feel like an outcast. Sometimes we just don't know what to do and unfortunatelly there's no manual that we can follow, specially when everyone around you looks successful and happy. She is changed and she is trying.
I also liked the revival. I'm reading the comments and I just can't believe people defending Rory should have married Logan to be a successful journalist (WTF?) People, in the revival the Rory's problem is not lack of talent. Rory is entitled and acts like a spoiled brat. Journalism is in crisis since 2008 and her beloved NY Times is laying people off for years. What Rory did with Sandee Says is probably the reason she is struggling. She thinks small newsrooms are beneath her (UGH!!!). This is a capital sin in the field. I'm a jornalist myself and cringed at that scene. So, no, getting married here is not the answer to her problems. She needs a reality check and to grow up. The revival is screaming this message. Especially when she finally said goodbye to The Life and Death Brigade.
Agreed
Sometimes, after time has passed, you will know if it’s the right decision or not.
Logan didn’t give her that space.
A friend broke off an engagement at Rory's age because she was convinced it was too early to get married. He said he didn't want to wait another two years until she finishes her MA, so she gave him the ring back. It happens, even if people thought they loved each other.
BUT, being one of her best friends, I saw them slowly drifting apart over the last months, lowkey fighting about the whole wedding thing, the conversations getting gloomier and gloomier, the tension between them, and finally the fight and a teary break-up, like, almost a whole weekend of her non-stop crying, despite being the one who made the decision. And they hadn't even moved in together, just two years of dating and getting to know each other.
As for Rory and Logan, I just didn't see it coming. It was so sudden and out of character for them both. I don't know what the writers were trying to achieve but irl people do not break up as easily as declining another serving of a meal. Especially after three years together, including one and a half in one apartament. I would believe it if it was fully fleshed-out, if there was something else except that job (which was shitty comparing to what she would've have on her hands if she'd become one of THE Huntzbergers).
such a heartbreaking scene. pain can be read in the eyes of both. i wish we could see another scenario where she said yes.
he was there .
In the good times and in the bad times .
Logan was the best guy. He was ALWAYS there 😭
I can't believe her mother opened her mouth to say that she thinks she made a good decision she did not make a good decision at all. Logan never stopped her for doing whatever she wants he always had her back so I didn't understand why she thought that he would have stood in her way he didn't and he had never stopped her for doing anything she wanted to do stupid not to see it.
Rory was an empty-headed girl, jealous of Logan and the opportunities handed to him, and so stupid that her marriage refusal was evidence of not loving him at all.
People say that she was too young, well, she wasn't too young to live with him without paying the rent and sucking on his money while living his lifestyle.
Her mommy didn't mind that at all but was offended when he was broke for a moment. Lorelai was jealous of their relationship and afraid that her daughter will be married before her., while Rory was a puppet without a personality.
When you’re not sure if you want to marry someone, you don’t marry them. So she did make the right decision.
I want to cry every time I see this. I'm really upset that they didn't make Rory and Logan together, I mean she isn't gonna find someone who is better then Logan!!! :'(
Fr she didn’t have any future plans anyways if she moved to california with him he would’ve made sure to find her a suitable job at a newspaper near by
idk why people are so upset about Rory saying no. She has the right, no matter what. Logan didn't discuss this with her before asking, he didn't really ask for what she wanted, or needed. When he proposed, he talked about how she can work near him. He already planned out her life for her. It's what his family does. If Rory had married Logan, she would become like Emily, a rich housewife. And even if she advance her career, it'll always be his family who is attached to her. She said no here because she clearly is not ready. Her mom raised her to be herself and make her own life. She can make mistakes and regrets them but it will still be her life. She did later on still see Logan. But she herself seem free. Free from Logan's family and their expectations. She clearly loves him still, but ultimately he and her are not right for each other. If they were, Logan wouldn't have engaged and married someone else. His goal is to make his family happy. Him marrying Rory would not make her happy. It probably would have ruined their love. Rory's best love is herself. And now, she'll love her child. and it is what Lorelai has decided for herself before as well. One day, Rory would meet someone who just feels right. And even if Logan was her soulmate, he ultimately is just not right for her.
I agree. But Logan fans dont and they hate Rory
@@lauriecarson6483I’m team Logan and I totally agree with the comment up here! I think they did Logan so dirty bc if u know him you know that troughout the series he has always been so understanding !
Exactly, and I just hate that he plunged into this, making all of the decisions without really trying to meet in the middle. He initially wanted her to make up her mind about her career and do what she wanted, with him following her. I hate to say it, but here it goes. Seeing how she struggled with the job hunt and all that she had gone through while he was acting lazy and irresponsible, I think she should have ignored Logan and took the Providence position while she had the opportunity. She instead ended up in Iowa, in the middle of nowhere, far away from her family.
I was thinking the exact same thing! Glad I found this comment. It's always possible to find someone whose values you align with, someone who you can talk to about mundane matters at the end of a busy week.
And Rory's still in her twenties -- lots of time to explore. I wish the producers didn't do her dirty in "A Year in the Life," because it's a betrayal of her projected character arc in this episode.
Marriage is not something people do right away, it’s a huge part of life and a really big decision. If Rory is not ready to get married and does not want to, then that’s her choice.
Exactly it takes a lot of courage to say yes and ask too Logan should have talked to her about it because she was not ready and she graduated that very day
This scene broke my heart
Before Logan and Rory entered the Hay Maze at Stars Hollow, he told her not to factor him in and that she should go for the job that she wants and he'll adjust to her needs. It's interesting that he was almost asking for the complete opposite of her here?
He was asking the same, he adjust, it was the turn to her to adjust and she quit
But she didn't know what's she wanted to do yet. And he said she can work for a news papaer he picked for her. He sis not letting her choose.
this clip breaks my heart every fucking time. the way he smiles and waves to her before she graduates. omg. like come on. IF U AIN'T GONNA MARRY HIM I WILL, STEP ASIDE GIRL.
Rory was raised by a free spirit independent woman. I’m not at all surprised that she turned him down. I am however surprised that they never got married in the future.
My heart is breaking, I love them 😭💔 Logan was so cute always with Rory
I understand why a lot of people are really sad about Rory’s decision. I’m team Jess and even I can admit that Logan was probably Rory’s best boyfriend. However, I don’t really look at the breakup scene as completely devastating. Instead, I kind of see it as bitter sweet. Because while it is kind of sad to see Rory let Logan go it’s also good to see her make her dreams a priority as well. We also have to remember that she was only 22 years old. She was a 22-year-old who was fresh out of college and was just about to start working the first professional job of her career. She even had to admit that the possibilities for the life she could create seemed intimidating at first but they were also exciting. Marriage would have limited all of those possibilities. I know Logan was probably thinking with his heart and he thought that she can work anywhere so why not get married now. But it’s not always that simple. When you’re married you no longer make decisions just for yourself you make decisions for yourself and your spouse. And a lot of those decisions require sacrifice and compromise. Going straight from being a college student to a wife is a huge leap that she just wasn’t ready. Overall, I think she made the right choice. I know she made some bad choices in the revival series lol but all that aside I think given where she was in her life at that point I think she made the right choice.It may not have been a super romantic cheesy ending to the series but it was still satisfying to me at least.
The hesitation part of Rory to Logan's proposal says something about Rory's feelings for Logan. She loves him but not enough to take that jump with him, so to speak. It's strange, but there it is. I think it was hinted a couple of times in the show of how different they are at times, though it wasn't emphasized enough like when she poked fun at rich kids in her article. That came from her heart without thinking. She may say she doesn't mean it, but why put thought into it and write it out that way? It calls to mind Jess' words to her how she's not being her true self since when they were teens they used to make fun of the rich. Also, it seems Rory really wants her mom to approve of him first. Her opinion really means the world to her still.
Liz17 ... she´s 22 vor heavens sake ... most people can´t commit to a town or city they wanna live in let alone getting married ... Logan´s been a selfish idiot to put that amount of presure on her, if he´d talked about things and let her make this decision in her own time the result may have been different! Which only points out again that both of them were not ready to get married ...!
docstef MD I agree..but there are some who got married younger than that, are mature, and are still together and still in love ..not all cases, of course, but there are exceptions..independence and freedom are other factors that Rory was considering too ..I'm not saying she didn't love him ..she clearly did, or does in canon, but her love for him isn't strong enough to overcome her fears whatever they may be...in the Revival, that's ample time for them to be decisive about their love & commitment to each other..but its not the case for either.
The thing is ASP, the Gilmore Girls creator (from the grapevine, anyway), didn't even watch season 7 since it wasn't her "creation". Basically, it's as if the storyline in s.7 was never there. No proposal, no San Francisco gig for Logan at all. He lives in London doing the family business while Rory is still trying to be a journalist and we all know is a tough business to get in. They are seeing other people 'cause they are in different continents, not just East coast/West coast. The fact is they do love each other deeply so if the "gods" will allow, they will be endgame💕
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@@Lucel18 In the revival, people are romanticizing their relationship but I think Logan was just a escape for Rory. She never asks him to leave Odette. She gets mad when Odette moved in because she lost the place she used to go to hide from the problems of her life. For me, Rory knew her plans were crashing and Logan cushioned the fall. Of course they have history and care for each other. But there was something odd in the whole thing. This is why it was so important when she told him "every ride has to end". It was time to grow up and face the real life and all the mess in her life.
After seeing these videos for too many times I've finally seen Rory's logic and I kind of understand her now. I mean, I'm a very devoted Team Logan fan and I think he is great in general and Rory's best boyfriend in particular, but she said no, because she had her own career dreams and yes, she loved him and she probably knew he was the one, but at the age when all doors are open and you can choose your own future, everyone wants to see their chances on successful fulfilment of their dreams. Usually I don't get it in movies, but maybe they should have really met later in life, when everything is somehow figured out. Now I just really would like to see what happened to Rory during these 7 years that her life became soo fucked up! Hope they could be with Logan now, when they have this baby (I'm sure it's his, because he is the one for her and fate just gave them a second chance:)
See, that's the point that I really don't get. Yes, all the doors in her life are open, but she's acting like marrying Logan would shut those doors forever. That's simply not the case. She even applied to the SF Chronicle before Logan proposed. Why did she never pursue that? I think she had two main reasons for turning him down both of which are equally stupid. 1: She picked her career over her boyfriend and 2: She is generally afraid of commitment.
Career is important, yes. And being without a job and living a life like Emily sucks. But she acts like there are no jobs in SF and wherever Logan and her would and could have lived. At some point Logan will take over the family business, after all he is still heir to Mitchum (or however his name is spelled). And when that happens they are most likely gonna live in NYC and she could have worked at the Times (which would than be owned by her husband). Rory did not understand that choosing her boyfriend would not mean an end to her career. On the contrary, again he is heir to one of the biggest media empires in the States which could come in quite handy when looking for a job in the media industry. Instead she chose her career over her boyfriend and - as we later learn - ends up with neither of them, quite bittersweet. To be honest I would have enjoyed seing somebody make that stupid decision if I wasn't invested in this person so much because I spent seven seasons watching her grow up. This was probably one of the biggest mistakes that Rory made so far in her life and most likely in her entire life.
@@hannesmonsees9101 she's always torn with the choices she makes... Dean or Jess? Harvard or Yale? Jumping off the ledge and dating Logan was risky. She wants the Providence job, but then it's not good enough. Lorelai was wrong when she said Rory's not a gambler... she takes risks in her personal life by making risky choices. Jess was a bad, risky choice, Yale was a presumably good choice, Dating Logan worked pretty well for 3 years despite their ups and downs, not taking Providence was a bad choice.... But then, she's just entitled enough, or perhaps sheltered enough, to think that her choices will all work out if she picks it. She thought if she PICKS career-chasing in New York, it will happen. She passes the good opportunities in front of her that can lead to better opportunities later in the hope of something better NOW. But the thing is it's fine when you're picking between schools or jobs or even figuring out which boyfriend to date in highschool. But when you love someone and the only thing keeping you from marriage is a specific, but non-existent, prospect in a career field that you could that you could have pursued any way? She wasn't willing to make some smaller sacrifices. She wasn't willing to see that she wasn't the most important college grad. She gambled and made the wrong choice. But you don't gamble with someone's heart when you love them.
"Some day you'll meet the right person and you won't wanna hesitate, you'll just know" ...yeah, no sorry I wouldn't listen to relationship advice from Lorelai. And just look... years later Rory is just emotionally messed up and has no prospects. She was happy with Logan. She hesitated because of fear of change, fear of commitment, because of selfish ambition, because she needed more time to prepare for the idea, because she wanted her mom's approval... not because she didn't love Logan. She even said thinking about being Logan's wife made her happy.
Seriously. Lorelai is just about the last person who should be giving out relationship advice.
When you're 22 you believe the future will keep offering new opportunities, new people. You don't understand that love like this is rare and special, and sometimes you meet the right person much earlier or later than you expect to.
When you're 22 you believe the future will keep offering new opportunities, new people. You don't understand that love like this is rare and special, and sometimes you meet the right person much earlier or later than you expect to.
Watching this scene gets me feeling all kinds of emotions, mad because she has a nice guys who will basically do anything for her and yet support every decision she makes but like sad because she ends up just in the same position as her mother. Yet happy because she wants to find out who she really is.
I've never understood why men feel like they can give an ultimatum and expect to be in the right. Plenty of women want to get married before their male partner is ready and are a lot more patient than "Hey I proposed so you have a few days to decide how invested you are." Bullshit.
Unpopular opinion - at the time I thought it was great that Rory turned Logan down and ended season 7 single (if we ignore what happened during the Revival). Not everyone has to be paired off at the earliest opportunity.
At that stage I thought that the right guy for her was no guy, and she was only 22 years old - who cares if a 22 year old is single and is prioritising their career when they’re just out of college. That’s perfectly normal. Now of course we know the future that the Palladinos set out for Rory 9 years later...
she has a right to be uncertain. she's just graduated, barely has a stable career, and only 2 years into their relationship. He might've gotten the upswing in his life but she's still deciding hers. He gave the ultimatum and she chose her ambitions
3 years into the relationship
"Only" 2 years 😂😂
Unpopular opinion but I support her decision. I don’t get why Logan wouldn’t agree to do long distance, especially after talking about true love and waiting 40 years for the love of your life. He was unsupportive of her goals and career here.
Yeah, as a supposedly career-minded woman (regardless of what happened in the revival), it made perfect sense that she put her desire to explore journalism ahead of being tied to Logan. He probably wouldn't have stopped her from doing anything, but she would have felt obligated to give up the things she wanted to follow him out West, which doesn't make sense for the Rory you meet in seasons 1-3.
I respect her decision. Everyone has to make decisions in their life. That's what makes the show realistic. Her chose just isn't the path I would have taken. Mostly because I'm obsessed with Logan
I don't understand this "all-or-nothing" argument from Logan when he literally said two episodes before that she shouldn't factor him into her decision and now he basically tells her "do what I want or we are over". Makes no sense.
She wasn’t even broken hearted when he ended the relationship. That’s how you know the writers messed up. She should been a messed just like every other time her and Logan when through a rough time or she though she messed up.
Yea, look at her face at 2:30 ...It's like "Oh well."
That's it? They're broken up just like that, I mean come on
I never understand why saying “no” to a proposal is definite end to a relationship. Sometimes saying no to marriage is just a “for now” thing if one of them isn’t ready YET. Why can’t people just stay together until BOTH are ready to get married?
I dont understand why they spent so much time hyping up the love story of Rory and Logan and then nothing! Ouchy. I dont like it
Saying “goodbye Rory?” After all of their history that breakup would have been full of tears and sobs. Rory wouldn’t even be putting sentences together, she would be heaving with tears
Bad enough to turn the job down, but this! Deluded from years of everyone blowing smoke up her behind.
Rory literally should of said yes! Like she literally was pregnant With his child and she literally amounted to nothing 7 years later... while he became very successful!
she was pregnant in the revival not the original series
@@oooh19 that's what she was referring to its why she said 7 years later.
Are you married do you know how much a commitment it takes to me married. They didn't talk about marriage he made plans for her they didn't discuss anything.
Why am I crying over a fictional couple’s breakup😭😭. I hate that I get so attached to these characters, cause its so painful when things don’t go the way I want them to.
When I watched the series I really wanted her to say yes. But then I realised how much I resonated with Rory's logic. I had a serious relationship during master's. We were in long distance. He always wanted to get married but I couldn't because I wasn't sure where I stood in life. I wasn't happy and going through hardship after hardship. I wanted to get married once I felt ready not only because we loved each other. Rory here is just 22. She has a whole lot of figuring out to do. So, even though as a fan of the show it felt sad to see them break up, this is the reality for many couples. I could totally see myself in her.
It makes me so mad that Lor never liked Logan. He changed for Rory and he never gave Lor a reason not to like him. She just hated the idea that Rory would end up marrying into the kind of family she tried to get away from. STOP LIVING THROUGH YOUR DAUGHTER. You didn't have to make it so god damn known hat you hated him. This was my favorite show but the ending ruined everything.
She liked him more than Jess. I never understood the hate against Jess. Yes he was kind of jerk when he was a teen, but he eventually grew out of that. He built a successful business all on his own. Plus he's the one that gave Rory the necessary wake up call she needed to get back to Yale, and then helps become a successful writer in the revival. You think that Loerlai would be impressed, but since Jess never kissed her ass she hated him.
I think people forget that a few episodes ago, logan told her not to factor him in when she made a decision about her job and that they would make it work no matter where she landed. Then he turns around and doesn't just propose marriage but lumps moving to California and limiting her job options in with it. She wouldn't just be agreeing to marriage. She would be sacrificing all of her prospects to accommodate him, when he offered her zero flexibility about his job and made the final decision without even consulting her. He made his job a non-negotiable definite while making moving across the country a condition to them staying together. That's not exactly a great start to a marriage and I understand why she said no. The fact that she made a lot of mistakes in her life after is irrelevant because a) she didn't know that would happen when she made her decision and b) at least she got to CHOOSE.
Rant over 😅
I 100% agree with you, and I actually completely forgot (until you mentioned it) that Logan told her not to factor him in. He said that, just a few episodes ago, and then he turns around basically pushing her through one doorway. Wow, it really makes sense when you think about it.
So, she doesn't want to get married at 22 and it's HER FAULT?? 🤔 what about Logan 's decision to break up? How about giving her time so she could miss him. It's ridiculous.
Then he didn't want to do long distance, but he did, in another continent, while engaged to someone else. Makes total sense
It's nobodys fault.. but if Rory wanted a serious relationship and for what?? They were gonna be engaged not married. But i respect that character decision and also Logan deciding that he could not go back from this (she not marrying him)
I feel like Lorelei brushed off on Rory & that made her say no because she knew that Lorelei wasn't that fond of Logan
This scene has never made sense to me - not the breaking up, but the timing. Why would they have this conversation directly after graduation? When the time is limited? When a bunch of other people could come up and interrupt them? I understand that the writers may have had time limitations and such with this being the second to last episode, but this is still strange.
Team Logan now and forever
I’m soooooooooo upset I’m drinking crying my eyes out
When I watched this episode I was almost sure that Rory was going to say yes. Then when I heard it I was heart broken, I didn't even want to watch the last episode. I actually cried. I think That Logan's reaction to the proposal was a little bad because if the dated for a little longer and he proposed again then she would've said yes. If only there was a way to make #TeamLogan #TeamJess and whoever weirdos are #TeamDean happy! Btw, I FREAKEN HATE THIS ENDING
Noooo, how stupid. To give up one someone you love like that. Without discussing it in depth. Its marriage, ofcource it's a big decision. God. Stupid. Stupid writing. Their relationship deserved a better ending. 3 years, gone, just like that. No closure.
Imagine breaking up on your graduation day god I would throw up
You can really see in his face that he's nervous.
I’m so glad she said no, 23 is way too young to get married, you just finished your undergrad years and there’s so much out there to discover. I’m not against people getting married young, I just don’t like the idea especially when you have all these great goals and aspirations.
They could have had a long engagement though
some individuals already have kids in their teens and early 20s. but many of them shouldn't even be around kids lol some shouldn't even be behind the wheel of a car or handle sharp objects lol. however sometimes people make it work and grow/mature if they want and have support from others. some are dangerously stupid and don't make effort to change. this is any age though.
OH MY GOD JUST SAY YES !!! He's gorgeous and you guys love each other !! If she won't marry you, I'll marry you !! He's the most amazing boyfriend !
they deserve a better ending!! i literally cried my eyes out, deadass sobbing when rory refused logan's proposal. i hate the writers for this. i mean they could've been engaged and figured it all out please. and now the revival was a mess cause it honestly feels right to have a rory and logan endgame!! bye i'm going to cry again
Although I'm okay with the fact that she said no, I just didn't like how their relationship had no closure in this series. 3 years of love ended just like that.
BIG MISTAKE. They are clearly on love.
What a character development...boy goes from 'im not a girlfriend guy' to 'will you marry me'
I honestly think the writers wrote an very unnatural ending here... Logan always fought for Rory in every fight they had and he asked Rory to follow her heart just few days ago but suddenly he asked for all or nothing? This is just so not Logan. I understood the writer wanted Rory not tie to anyone in the ending but the twist is just unnatural and not fitting the character
I get what you're saying but he shouldn't have begged her or tried to convince her. He asked her to marry him. To share their lives and she said she wanted things to be open. They weren't in the same place. After three years and ups and downs in the relationship, they didn't want the same thing for their lives at this point. Him walking away was the right thing.
What Lorelai said here was right.
IM GONNA CRY THIS IS THE SADDEST THING IN MY WHOLE LIFE AND YOU CANT TELL ME OTHERWISE.
DAMMIT RORY
Out of all the stupid things Rory did, refusing to marry Logan is the worse, this is on top of her cheating on Dean with Jesse, on top of her sleeping with a married Dean, cheating on Dean again with Logan, stealing a boat with Logan because his father told her the truth and she couldn't take the truth, dropping out of college, speaking nasty to her father, etc. She could have still done the fellowship while being engaged to Logan, it didn't have to be an either or situation. She would have always been the happiest with Logan and by refusing him she set herself up for failure. She could have been a journalist in SF, she could have continued living as selfishly as she wanted, Logan never tied her up and chained her up inside the home. She denied herself clearly the thing she wanted most, especially since she was willing to carry on an affair with him when he was engaged to someone else and she was dating poor Paul. Logan's father was correct she didn't have it, she should have chosen new avenues. She was talented and she could have put her talents to use in different fields. They should have ended up together.
Everyone’s say Rory’s an idiot for not marrying Logan or its Lorelais fault but Rory made the right decision for herself at the time yes Logan was there for her and was a good boyfriend at the time but she wasn’t ready she had her dreams even if 7 years later she didn’t accomplish them and was in a pretty low place if she had married Logan I don’t think they would have stayed together the revival showcased that even someone who seemed to have it all together since they were born can have messy 20s and set up the ending up to interpretation by the viewers personally I think it showcases Rory as a Lorelai Jess as her soulmate ie luke and Logan as someone she loved but was never ready to marry or Christopher (Alexis even says she see a lot of her characters dad in Logan and that’s y Rory is attracted to him they have tons of similarities their relationships with their dads, wealthy past, etc.)
Faith Oj you thought about this allot lol.
Faith Oj Jess is not her soulmate
Faith Oj Your completely wrong
When he says what is the point,,, makes you think where was all that love. the point is that you get to keep the person you love and enjoy being with and you would rather pass that up cause she is not ready to commit but would commit to be with you either way. how sad!!
I cry every single time I see this and when I think back on it she was planning to marry him the whole time but then she said no and I was kind of angry cause she was planning to he was the best thing for her and she was the best thing for him they were soulmates
They could’ve been engaged until she was ready to get married and then they could’ve got married she didn’t have to say no
When her mom says that she’s happy she didn’t because she will know when it’s right she won’t hesitate she hesitated because of her mom he was the one
why roryyy
why did you say no???
I am literally crying 😭😭😭😭
Logan was the right personnn
Everyone is talking about Rory making the wrong decision, but for me Logan was the one that didn't make any sense. The all or nothing approach is ridiculous and it doesn't make sense with their story and with the man Logan was turning out to be. I am Team Logan and hate this scene. (Ps: but I loooove all of your playlist so much)
this makes me think that all of rory's boyfriends loved her more than she loved them
I never understood why they couldn't be engaged for a couple of years before she was ready to get married
If Rory had said yes but was nowhere in terms of a job in the future at least she would have been married to her soulmate
this was the worst thing ever
I'm rewatching from the beginning and knowing this is what comes has cast this cloud over it all. I go from enjoying Rory the most and rooting for this girl to come out of this messy environment to make Emily and Richard proud of their family, their granddaughter, and then daughter for raising this epic cool genius kid. To seeing her bratty and spoiled. And mixed up between two words, that of privilege and that of being judgmental of privilege, she never takes responsibility and never really grows up into the person you imagine her to be when you watch from the start. Logan grew into her perfect partner. He was bratty and spoiled too, but he was there..he wanted to be there. Rory copies lorelai in not sticking with her Christopher, but logan wasn't Christopher and Rory isn't lorelai and it is a disappointing ending. If this had ended with a yes.. You wouldn't have needed the revival. This left so many loose ends.
IKKKKKKK
i dont blame logan i blame the frickij scriptwriters....logan wouldnt want all or nothing....logan loves her
They gave up so quickly. They were not ready to married because logan got the job but rory hasnt a job. Rory hadn't set it up yet but they were should try to be together. They were should fight for eachother. Then in the 'a year in the life' they screwed up.
I hate that Rory seems to be a taker let people fall in love with her claiming she wants commitment and when they get to the point she turns her attention to someone else or she's not committed. She is selfish and wants what she's not willing to give both her and lorolie are that way, don't want to commit to the guy they have. They always want the guy they don't have when they get that guy they want the one they didn't want or had before. This is irritating.
I'm soooo upset. It's not like they'd immediately get married or anything, they could just stay engaged
I don't get this girl. What, does she want to date him FOREVER and never marry him. She's not that smart.
2:22 I hate Logan’s suit. He can afford to have it tailored.
Yeah thank god for the slim fit suits
Rory handles breaks up so much better than me. 😂 how is she moving stuff?
I despise the last two scenes with Logan because I don't think it's realistic for a couple who spent three years together to end thier relationship so suddenly by talking about it at 1. Her grandparents house in the midst of a party and 2. Public grounds of Yale. It just seemed like they both placed so little weight on finding a reasonable compromise to stay together when they've fought and compromised to stay in a long distance relathionship for the last two years of thier three year relationship.
Almost 20 years and I’m still livid that Rory and Logan did not end up together and the. Have all their character growth smashed in that ridiculous revival. They did the fans dirty 😢
After saying no there was no way he was gonna take her as serious again (it was all or nothing)... even in the revival the fact they even still communicated shows how much he still loved her... where they were 10 yrs later is actually optimistic tbh.
They could have stayed engaged for a while regarding them being so young, and to be fair as a journalist to be she really could have worked anywhere and it still would have been open and unsure and free if she moved to california. I don't understand it, I mean sure she was surprised but they obviously loved each other and letting go so fast and all of a sudden seems really strange and not fitting at all
my heart just broke 🥺
The proposal was so uncalled for ugh why couldn’t they communicate abt thisss
They ruined both characters. People go through so much worst in life and still end up together after many years. They turned Rory into a lame millennial and Logan into a lowlife asshole. Come on..
Everyone keeps saying this it’s Lorelei’s fault that she said no, and I totally agree that they have co-dependency issues, but I honestly don’t think Rory was ready either way. This whole series she went from being Lorelei’s daughter, to Richard and Emily’s granddaughter, and then she would’ve been Logan’s wife. Girl needed to find her own identity and learn how to be her own person.
Not saying that Logan wouldn’t have allowed her to do that. I wish they would’ve just agreed to go to Cali together and had a long engagement, or even just go together while still dating
Everyone blames Rory for turning him down, but I can’t be the only one who thinks Logan was foolish for giving her an ultimatum. They were in their early twenties. They could have been together without tying the knot just yet.
Still, I think Rory would be better off with him as her partner/husband.
I spent 5 hours on RUclips watching Gilmore girls and watching get to this scene and Rory says NO! Disappointing I’m so depressed rn
she what? said no because she wanted to make life choices that only included her in them? but yet in the remakes shes make as logans side chick and not any better off than she was when she left yale. and as for the no job part doesnt like going to Yale automatically get ur job once youve left?
Right person, wrong time. (But the fact that he didn’t bring her flowers for her grad? Was weird.)
no hay escena que me rompa más que esta. rory deberia haber dicho que si 😭😭