Freddie Foreman - The George Cornell & Jack "The Hat" Trial
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- Опубликовано: 20 сен 2021
- Freddie Foreman vents his anger that the George Cornell & Jack "The Hat" McVitie trials were put on with one jury which meant he was in the dock for months (George Cornell) which he wasn't indicted for. Argues that the judge had pre-determined that he was guilty as was hell bent on giving him life...
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Early Life
Born at 22 Sheepcote Lane, Battersea in March 1932 to Herbert Albert Foreman, an Irishman. 22 Sheepcote Lane was a terraced two-up and two-down house, sharing a bedroom with four of his brothers, situated nearby The Flag pub. Foreman was involved in violence from a young age. He was known for his involvement with audacious criminal plans, one of which was the murder of Frank 'The Mad Axeman' Mitchell - a British criminal previously befriended by Ronnie Kray when they served a sentence together at Wandsworth prison.
Criminal activity
Foreman was involved in the Shoreditch Security Express robbery of 1983, which at the time was the largest cash robbery in the UK. For his part in it, he received nine years in prison. At the time of the Kray's arrest, he was thirty-six, and licensee of The Prince Of Wales, Lant Street in Southwark
Foreman also confessed to the murders of Frank "Mad Axeman" Mitchell, and of Tommy "Ginger" Marks in the 1960s in revenge for the shooting of his brother (shot in the legs). He had been acquitted of the murders at an Old Bailey trial in the 1960s where he was listed as living at Red Post Hill, Dulwich, London. He additionally claimed to have intimidated witnesses to the killing of George Cornell in the Blind Beggar Pub in Whitechapel by Ronnie Kray and to having been a hitman for the Kray twins.
Arrest and conviction
He was tried on two separate occasions for murder, and found not guilty, and has convictions for handling the proceeds of an armed robbery and separately for disposing of a body, that of Jack "the Hat" McVitie. Foreman also admitted to the murders of Frank "Mad Axeman" Mitchell, and of Tommy "Ginger" Marks during the 1960s in his autobiography, Respect, in revenge for the shooting of his brother who had been shot in the legs. He had been acquitted of these murders at an Old Bailey trial in the 1960s. Foreman moved to Spain after he left prison.
Later life
He is the father of actor Jamie Foreman, Gregory Foreman and Danielle Foreman. In 2018, a biopic documentary "Fred" was released. Foreman’s team approached Salon after seeing its work on underworld documentary “The Guv’nor,” and subsequent movie “My Name is Lenny.” Rather than glamorizing Foreman’s life of crime, “Fred” is a somber and intimate look at the notorious villain towards the end of his life. “Fred” was written, and is directed by, Salon’s Paul Van Carter.
In 2019 Gangster No 1 - The Freddie Foreman Story was released, a documentary casting Foreman as The Godfather" of Britain's criminal underworld.
One of the last from that Era, Freddie great to hear from you, what a life, hope to hear more stories and the channel is great. 💯
The One and ONLY Brown Bread Fred
A True crime legend, long live this truly unique and very interesting geezer
With you Sunshine
Brown bread Fred might come across as a loveable rogue now . In his younger days he killed people for money and got away with it? These people are not as nice as their persona and I am amazed he has lived/survived longer than most crims of that generation.
There's a reason your anonymous cos you know nothing
Your a cupid stunt right enough
@@spencerwhale2265he may be anonymous but you're not really a whale 🐳 called Spencer
@@hshsjwbshsjwjekjeje don't be brave on your keyboard mug
This series is brilliant, I’m not saying what they’ve done is right,But it’s history.
You’re really lucky getting to sit down with him, the guys a legend.
A legend for doing what?
Someone you could sit and listen to all day long. Respect Freddie.
Old School British Gangster no Civilians no Kids no Women, I came from the same background in Glasgow in the Sixties and seventies and wasn't an angel myself, changed Days sadly now it's anybody.
Freddie what a man I think he is brilliant
Absolutely always wanted to meet him
Yes, I agree, seems a fair man no arrogance. I wouldn't want to cross him when he was in his pomp.
You have to have a strong character to deal with that. Guys like Fred made the history of London.
Fred foreman, your a legend...i could sit down all day and listen to you, you seem a great guy to know
I love this man he’s from a dying breed . Like sitting down with my Nan . She was from the east end war child . I hope he has many more years to remind us of what was. Much respect
I thought he had already passed
Did your nan murder people ?
@@hod2116 nope
Freddie got a result in my reckoning. Not sure why he didn't get that double jeopardy thing after admitting doing Frank the axe man in the back of that van.
I felt sorry for Frank Mitchell's family, I mean knowing your son had been murdered, then disposed off. Then not one of these criminals actually got any jail time for his murder. Yes Freddie was a lucky boy and so was donague.
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@@micheald3716
Donaghue wasn't lucky he turned QE in order to get off
@@michaelharrison3602 So he was a lucky grass.
@@michaelharrison3602 it wasn't to get off. He just wasn't going to admit to something the Krays did like they tried to tell him to. You say lucky, i say smart. Cowards
Cornell should never have been shot. He weren't as bad as the movies make him.
The first kray film shows him more like it
Not that mickey mouse remake with that hardy bloke
I thought the first film was crap all that shooting up pubs with machine guns
And although I'm a fan of Steven Berkov I think he's portrayal of Cornell was well OTT
Nor jack the hat really
@@UnashamedlyGodSquad night have been tolerable if it wasn't for the Frances character with her high school drama monologues all the way through making it cringy as fuck.
Full interview?
The more I listen to him, the more I like him.
Fred is definitely right that trial was fixed to involve everybody in the dock regardless of what part or not they had in the 3 murders.
Freddie foreman comes across as a good guy you could trust.
Did the twins ever meet Vito Genovese?
What a shame how it’s only the criminal past these folk talk about ?
Why not talk about everyday life like taking the kids the park or what his wife is like ❤
Freddie Forman Charile Richardson proper chaps
If your defence barrister had said nothing and allowed the Judge to pass a sentence beyond the guideline you could well have had a different and more sympathetic Judge at the appeal .
I 💜Freddie 🥰
Legend
"all that fackin mob"
FREDDIE FORMAN What a character tells it as it was very interesting well done
WotS amazing is all the friends and firm talking like BOSSES now the KRAYS ARE ALL DEAD AND CALLING THE KRAYS MMMMMM..?
Battersea boy if cant batter them put them in the sea he lives by that
Long live brown bread Fred 💜 what a legend 💓💓
He was one of the few gangsters who you just knew, you could totally trust. He had empathy and was a generally good hearted man
@@tonysmee6821 interesting thank you !! 👍
Undeniably one of the more interesting and intelligent criminals. He certainly has a lot of insight into London criminality of the 70s and 80s. Unfortunately he believed that the rules, which most of us comply with, did not apply to him. He is a villain not a victim. I accept that he is worth listening to, but I do not think he is worthy of the hero worship in some of the attached comments.
That's criminal you can't put 2 different crimes together they should of got off on technical ity
You did the crime old boy, you have to face the bird, can't blame the coppers for doing whatever it takes to stitch you up, thats their sole priority.
I have read most of the comments, and had to stop. Becouse people are so far gone its unbelievable. For example alot of comments say "freddie foremen 'brown bread' fred. A true criminal legend and i never got the chance to meet him" ffs how can a true criminal be a legend and he did at least 10 years along with the krays and the rest of the jail time he did. If that makes him a legend then what was pablo escobar who did 3 years in his OWN JAIL a god. plus they had to kill escobar becouse he was far to big and getting scarely bigger that the colombian goverment thought he might buy them out one by one slowly as he had an army of his own and politicians in his pocket. or just kill them all. then run colombia as he saw fit. the goverment debated about his wealth and power and was very clever. and knew he offerd to pay them millions plus clear all there debts if they left him alone. the goverment had to refuse. but knew he wouldnt just leave it at that. his money alone could fill up an empty warehouse 80 yards long and wide and up to 15 foot in height all tightley stuck together and in packs. all 20 dollar notes. he had ten times more than the goverment so how could he lose. but he forgott his pure cocaine was killing the kids in his own towns and citys all over and more wanted him dead than alive but with his mind blowing wealth would that be enough in a place where people couldnt feed themselfs so went to work for him in the coco fields where the cociane grows then has the liquid squeezed out the plants then left in the blazing heat to turn it into powder and 100% pure. it was a bit strange that a man like pablo escobar with all his wealth and security and in the end when the police and goverment decided to kill him a police man said "i was just standing one day in a town and i just saw this man who was acting dodgy as if he didnt want me to see him then as i moved closer he tried to get over a 6 or 7 foot wall then i knew it was pablo escobar. When he quickly turnend and looked at me thats when i shot him and he just went down. i couldnt believe it. i never expected him to get cought or killed trying to climb over a 6ft wall it seemend a bit strange as if it didnt happen or it wasnt him and just some one who looked like him. but i had saw his face at least a million times, a photo of him was on the wall of the station i worked from so i would see it nearly every day so i knew it was him alright. there was still billions of pounds i believe that the goverment never got. and they did get alot of his money in millions but he had more money than the printing factorys could print at a 20 dollar note a second, he was making money faster than that by 3 times a second. the turkish heroin drug lords seemingly offerd the turkish goverment millions upon millions of pounds as well plus clear any debts they had for them to leave them alone. And they refused. Heroin is an evil drug and could ruin society in general and the world. people would say no dont be daft but heroin is the devils powder. If it can slowly destroy and bring down housing schemes one by one and half of britain at the same time then thats it destroying society slowly. the police can only try and stem the flow of it and try and get on top of it. but its too powerfull as in addictive. and the money in it is in telephone numbers by the billions, btw. Once pure 100% heroin hits places like liverpool, london, glasgow, manchester, its cut down to about 30% or less, once it gets onto the street dealers its about 20% if that and at least 20 grand a kilo, so how much would a kilo of say 70% cost? becouse its still to be cut at least another 4 times. Now thats madness when you look at it that way! so a kilo of afghan 100% pure heroin would or could cost at least 70 to 80 grand. but these people sell it in bulk as in at least 10 kilo so thats why they wouldnt charge the full price, becouse teams are buying 50 kilos at 80 percent pure at a cost of maybe over a million pounds, and thats just one team then another team will take the same becouse the more you buy the cheaper a kilo costs. and another quick million pound is made. and thats just in a few hours? heroin mostly comes from afghanistan, india, turkey, china, and there controling the world with it. but 80% of it comes from afghanistan, seemingly they only deal with turkey but its more like a team, the afghan drug lords supply the turkish heroin cartel with about 300 kilo and more at a time and none stop more or less. no ones name is known except to the top lords when some one is just ready to start work for them and comes represented with a trusted man they already know of course. Then the turkish heroin cartel start taking orders direct and start supplying europe and the uk and the usa and the middle and far east and south america. these people are basicly untouchable and never get cought. becouse they are not known, they are very clever and powerfull and have more money than any goverment except the usa maybe. They have police men on there payroll and politicians becouse they pay them so much money. They never really get crossesd becouse the money is paid up front and its about trust and loyalty at this level and they always deliver and on time even if the buyer has to wait 4 days. there world is totally different from ours. How do they manage and deal with so much money that would fill a football stadium in a year alone, no one knows and never will.
Eh.........
Say that again
Neck up you parrot.
Is that a book?
He slags them off now they are dead but jumped when they told him to when they were alive, he even visited Reg on his death bed, I wonder why?