@irishman I meant... the war heros of the real wars . World War 1 and 2.. My dad is 107 Yr old still alive.. And was a soldier and fought in the 2nd world war.. was a prisoner of war from the Japanese.. The horrors he told me... He and them young men fought for us all...
The Richardsons were far more powerful and successful than the Krays. They had most of the West End sewn up and as well as Charlie and Eddie they had serious hombres like Jimmy Moody, George Cornell, Jimmy Clark, and Frank Fraser on their firm.
hi, david, i saw a documentary about london gangsters a few years ago where an ex metropolitan police detective from the 60s who had experience of the richardsons and the krays stated himself that the richardsons gang were much more organized , successful and powerfull than the krays, the krays wanted a piece of the action in the west end of london with the richardsons but charlie and eddie said no. have a nice day from the batman.
Fantastic champ John H stracey, I got to meet him as a lad along with Charlie Magri and John L Gardner because my uncle Charlie Charlton painted their portraits back in the 80s, he was royal academy trained and did a summer exhibition which included a series of some of our best boxers 👍🏻, I wonder if John remembers???
I remember hearing a story as a young man living in South London about the Krays going into a pub named the Rose and Crown in South East London looking to take it over, only to be ran out of it by a local man with the surname Oliffe.
That was Ronnie Ollife I think it was the Rose and Crown Union St SE1 a proper chaps pub back then but it's such a common name it could have been one of dozens
Good to hear Harry Roberts is out, had many chats with Him over the Years. Never knew the twins, but knew Charlie when He got His 12 stretch. Twice long lartin , so I knew all the oldies. Good to hear this fella is still about, I'm sure He was in long lartin in 93 when I was there? Those were the days! 😉
When John H Stracey mentions the Twins offering to manage him, the £300 week they offered him is equivalent to £4500 a week now. The £10 a week he was on would be £152
When the first Kray film ce out,I'd heard it from a genuine person that Georgie Cornell could do the business anytime someone wanted it,and could defo have a dash ?
@@robertphelps1574 Journalists and film makers are in bed with all types of lowlives . Interesting social study in themselves. His family should challenge this in court for defamation of character or rights to privacy ,there must be some law or avenue against this? They have "Human Rights" ,why not?
After all these years he still throws shade about the Krays. Get on with your life & get over the fact the people still are fascinated by them. It really must get under your skin.
He needs to be interviewed by someone professional. 1 of the last original south London gangsters with all the answers and everyones drunk, shouting stuff out, asking rubbish questions and talking all the way through. Waste of time! SOMEONE INTERVIEW HIM PROPERLY PLEASE!!!!!!!
@@LiamGalvinFilm Cornell was never one of the Richardson's top men he was one of the many people who were just hired muscle Ronnie waited until Charlie and Eddie were banged up before he shot Cornell that way the Richardsons would be unable to strike back
A very good glimpse into Eddies life. If he really had a bad fallout with Freddie Foreman He wouldnt be here, Fred didnt fuc about, was the original and last naughty naughty man. Long Live BBF
Charlie and Eddie were ten times smarter and successful than Ronnie and Reggie if you new the truth about these families you’d be truly disturbed especially the krays it’s not for feint hearted
At last a decent comment my dad was born in 1946 in lambeth he use to tell me great stories about when he worked at the scrap metal for the richardsons with his good mate yff ❤
Eddie might never have been the brains behind the Richardson's business endeavors, but when you got a bit of aggro, Eddie was fearless and didn't give a fuck about anybody. Same as Freddie Foreman. That's why they were so powerful. They'd have a straightener on the drop of a hat. They are in another league above the twins. Mind you, I'm from South London...The Old Kent Road...lol ! So I may be a bit biased. :-)
For someone who says he and his brother were bigger badder brighter than The Twins , sure spent a lot of time talking about them, even the crowd there were more about asking about The Twins more than Charlie or Eddie.
So what no one was saying that the Krays aren't more famous but not everyone thinks being famous is the most important thing in a life unless you're an X factor contestant
He needs to go on a stage to make a few bob .Don't blame him for one minute but he obviously didn't have a lucrative criminal career for all his tall tales
I used love all this shit when I was younger spent a fortune on courtneys and krays books 🙄....now it sounds like load of old shit and all Courtney's stuff was made up ....I feel like a silly boy now 🤣
@@Restrodsworth "real deal" as in running protection rackets, frauds and scams which hurt ordinary honest folk trying to feed their families. Don't know why people get so excited about these scumbags. Good stories, but they're pondlife.
They’re all grasses at the top, even Arthur Thompson here in Glasgow was one. Crime is just a flesh trade between the top guys and the bottom feeders with the authorities. No such thing as a criminal fraternity
The krays was Scared off the Richardson brothers .if krays was so powerful why did they not take care off the Richardson gangster they did nothing .they waited till they was all in jail .the krays got brave and shot George cornell the Richardson gang was the top boys in London in the 60s not the krays and that's the bottom line
Krays downfall was Ronnie Shooting cornell. If they had played their cards right they could have been millionaire celebrities. Meanwhile, richardson tours the pubs and clubs.
It's Funny you Say That Because According To Donohue Ronnie Had All The Firm Paired Off With Names And Addresses Of The Richardson Firm And Where They The Drank To Wack Um And According To Donohue They Were Just Waiting For The Order To Come Down From Ronnie But Then The Richardson Firm Got Arrested..
shows how pathetic gang life is they might have been feared back then but wheres it got him now? anyone can take him on the street you cant stay invincible forever better off just being nice to everyone in the first place
back in them days we was a firm, they was a firm & so was that lot over the road,, we put it on them they put it on us & we put it on the other lot, blah blah blah blah etc etc etc,, i cant take no more,, heard it all before!!!
The Krays were thick and narcissistic. Frazer wasn't hard. He was a psychopath but he wasn't hard. Put him in a fist fight without weapons and without his oppos holding down his opponent and he would be slaughtered. Doorman, stuntman, boxer and bit part actor Nosher Powell saw him off and scared the shit out of him.
Nosher was one of only a few men to stand up to the krays when he blanked them from coming into a night club back in the day which pissed them off no end but in the end they had to swallow big balls nosher had 👍
@Rob Wood Like I said, Idiots! the other half are innocents, not really half though maybe less than a third, trust me, everyone you meet in there is innocent, I used to be an idiot too!
If it weren't for the Krays would Eddie be on stage doing what he's doing? The same as Freddie Foreman, Dave Courtney etc etc, in my opinion they started the whole gangster boom in the 90"s and paved the way for all the other high profile career criminals to do books, movies, after dinner talks / shows etc.
Reading some of the pointless comments here arguing over who was the best, the Krays or the Richardsons. It like arguing over what is the best STD, VD or the Clap.
Sounds like Charlie got skrewed by people in high places just like millions befor and since some things never change the worst grookes of all govern the world
@@vespaspence Thanks. I thought it might be, but I didn't hear the name mentioned. I've heard quite a bit about him especially from Yammy B. Such a shame that someone with the potential he had wasn't able to see just how far he could have gone in the Professional game!
@@gammyg525 who would have stood in their way anywhere in London in their day? They told the Krays they couldn't operate in the West End, fucked Forman out of it.
The whole Eddie V Freddie Foreman incident still intruigs me because they both can't be right about what happened, both very staunch, powerful and dangerous men in thier prime, but who's version of events is the correct one?
Was in wayland Nick in 2000, where I met Reggie Kray would have conversations with him seem like a decent fellow to me I was in awe even asking for his autograph he gave me a signed picture of himself when he was lifting weights in a competition, I still have that photo to this day For the right price any collectors out there..
Mate I was in wayland nick from 1999 until late 2000 ! Please put the powder down sound like your a sniffer. How can you try tell me what I know?? Yes I was in nick with reg kray stop Hating And show some respect Why the hell am I gonna lie About something like that🤔🤔🤷🏿♂️
And with regard to Weight lifting he had some old pictures from back in the day when the was weight train. as I said I've got a signed autograph From Reggie kray Any collectors out there interested??
Reggie died in October 2000. He was let out in August 2000 and went too hospital and then a hotel. You must of talked too Reggie at the beginning of 2000?
Put it this way ...all these people always talk about the krays ...if it wasn't for the krays ...no one would even have a clue who Half these people are !
Surely if your into naughty things you don't want to be well known , Krays didn't have the brains to know that , Charlie Richardson was the real brains
@@johnnyp4001 he didn't want attention but Is only sitting here talking to a room full of people about what he done lol and that's only because of the krays every single one of the them have videos all over RUclips..and who do they all mention?
His wife’s family were protested and the premier of the movie Legend when it came out because of the way it portrayed her and that Reggie never drove her to suicide
The American mafia would have had this lot holding doors open for them . There's something sad about old men telling stories about how tough they were cos the truth is time is undefeated and as soon as they became middle aged they would have been food for the young lions coming through . There's also enough evidence that both Krays were a force when they were younger ...they'd stab you up in a breath ...but the same applies to them ...age catches up with them. The thing about Freddie foreman was that he was a well respected man but why did he stand for the Krays dumping jack the hat on his manor cos that's a liberty , why did he get involved in mad franks murder ...it doesn't make sense . But let's not forget were dealing with career criminals so their not the most trustworthy of people when it comes to telling the truth
Absolute bullshit. They are men of their day and nobody would have stepped on their toes, certainly not in their middle age. Many middle aged men are more capable than any 25 year old
Its Grt listening to these guys, no doubt. But depending who u listening to they tell different stories. Think one thing fore sure is, Richardsons, Freddie Foreman, Krays, all pretty tough.
@@davehoward22doing 25 yrs ain't something to be proud of if he said that to their faces they would fuck him off and probably ask how long he as served
Eddie hit the nail on the head regarding the long sentences. Yes they knocked a few people about but all that torture nonsense was just that. Charlie got out of his depth with the South African secret service and his card was marked by the British state. Him and everyone associated with him was going down for a long stretch. I like Eddie. John McVicar had a lot of good things to say about him in his book. But him & Fraser get out of their depth as well with the Hayward firm that night in Catford. They had already tried to muscle their way into Billy Hayward’s gambling clubs and got told where to go. That was the cause of the big fight in Mr Smith’s.
The Krays never made any real money till they went to prison, one of their Fan boys won the lottery and gave Reggie £100,000 that kicked things off and they then franchised the kray name for books , doorman/bouncer associations and the like. A lot of people pay well to be associated with notoriety.
You must be mad. The Richardsons weren't afraid of Albert Reading or any man in London. It's likely they didn't speak about the Krays when they were alive because Eddie served time with them and seen them as harmless but okay guys so probably didn't want to diminish them when they were alive
Reg and Ron made more money than the Richardson and take it from me albert reading knocked Eddie Richardson clean out in gartree prison well known fact
@@malcolmroberts2467 maybe Albert Reading did, you win some you lose some but to say the Richardsons were afraid of Albert Reading is stupid talk. If they wanted they could have Albert picked up and disappeared back in the day and nothing would have happened.
Such a great sense of humor old school legends. R.I.P. to all the fallen. They were all born into that life all brought up in the war just like my dad rest up i have always looked up to people like this always have respect for your elders andd don't judge anyone because when your born in poverty they learnt how to survive in the hardest times. Might be doing wrong things occasionally but its all for the right reasons.
they stole off people that had nothing during the war, they were scum "we only targeted our own"...yeah right plenty of normal people got done over by richardson and the krays, extortion being an example
The real legends were our war heros.....
True.
@irishman I meant... the war heros of the real wars .
World War 1 and 2..
My dad is 107 Yr old still alive..
And was a soldier and fought in the 2nd world war.. was a prisoner of war from the Japanese..
The horrors he told me...
He and them young men fought for us all...
Real wars? a war is a war silly sod
No such thing as a war hero's just uneducated people doing politicians and royaltys dirty work
@irishman he said our war heroes not yours... Some people think isis and IRA are heroes and that's up to them. Good and bad comes down to perspective.
How they glamourise crime makes me sick. No wonder the People of our country are fucked. People looking up to these men.
There are those who look up to them
These sort of men exist in every country on earth and
People look up to them it's not just an English thing
The Richardsons were far more powerful and successful than the Krays. They had most of the West End sewn up and as well as Charlie and Eddie they had serious hombres like Jimmy Moody, George Cornell, Jimmy Clark, and Frank Fraser on their firm.
Oh George Cornell!
But who had Pickering? Or is he a one man army?
hi, david, i saw a documentary about london gangsters a few years ago where an ex metropolitan police detective from the 60s who had experience of the richardsons and the krays stated himself that the richardsons gang were much more organized , successful and powerfull than the krays, the krays wanted a piece of the action in the west end of london with the richardsons but charlie and eddie said no. have a nice day from the batman.
The legendary j h stracey is the grandfather to my nephew and nieces. Big respect to him
Great boxer
Fantastic champ John H stracey, I got to meet him as a lad along with Charlie Magri and John L Gardner because my uncle Charlie Charlton painted their portraits back in the 80s, he was royal academy trained and did a summer exhibition which included a series of some of our best boxers 👍🏻, I wonder if John remembers???
I remember hearing a story as a young man living in South London about the Krays going into a pub named the Rose and Crown in South East London looking to take it over, only to be ran out of it by a local man with the surname Oliffe.
Ronnie Oliffe he was a big name maybe him
That was Ronnie Ollife
I think it was the Rose and Crown Union St SE1 a proper chaps pub back then but it's such a common name it could have been one of dozens
Eddie good ol boy still gets over Millwall.....bless him..👍😔👏👏
Good to hear Harry Roberts is out, had many chats with Him over the Years. Never knew the twins, but knew Charlie when He got His 12 stretch.
Twice long lartin , so I knew all the oldies.
Good to hear this fella is still about, I'm sure He was in long lartin in 93 when I was there?
Those were the days! 😉
When John H Stracey mentions the Twins offering to manage him, the £300 week they offered him is equivalent to £4500 a week now. The £10 a week he was on would be £152
If true, tell me what other 17 yr old kid on the planet would not of taken that on ? 18 grand a month !!!
17 in 1963 makes him 83 now! Looking good 🤔
@@dannypaterson888 so what I don’t get is why he didn’t take their offer?
They couldn't pay him £30 a week as they needed to give their little lover boys money to buy sex toys etc 😂😂😂
@@reecegraves3738because they couldn't pay him £300 a week ffs
Great watch 👍 any chance of seeing you interview him Liam?
I would like to - I was speaking to a friend of his today to see if it's possible
@@LiamGalvinFilm is there a website that you can get tickets to see him
don't think so - i didn't know this was on - only a mate sent this to me
John H is the man for sure! Boxing 🥊 legend
Why is there so many channels dedicated to mindless thugs and bullies?
Same reason you decided to click on this video and place a comment (albeit complaining about it).
@@its_rick_james_bich2575 good point 👍
it's bizarre isn't it? Mindless morons who idolise them!
Eddie calling people brainless? He got his own brother 12 years for something he wasn't aware of!
Dangerous talk. And total bollocks
Audience member: charlie! How old was you when you first went to prison?
Charlie: yes!
6 ffs
Need more of Eddie,he's telling it as it was. Folklore ,but clarifying many stories.
George Cornell was harder than the film shows,no mug.
When the first Kray film ce out,I'd heard it from a genuine person that Georgie Cornell could do the business anytime someone wanted it,and could defo have a dash ?
@@stephenmcphail4291 The protrayal of George Cornell in the film is disrespectful to him and his family ,who'll still be out there.
In the film legend one of the pubs used is only a ten minute walk to the cemetery where George Cornell is buried
@@robertphelps1574 Journalists and film makers are in bed with all types of lowlives .
Interesting social study in themselves. His family should challenge this in court for defamation of character or rights to privacy ,there must be some law or avenue against this?
They have "Human Rights" ,why not?
He wasn't harder than a bullet.
After all these years he still throws shade about the Krays. Get on with your life & get over the fact the people still are fascinated by them. It really must get under your skin.
John H Stracey was a great boxer , beaten an all time great in his own country Mexico with the ref and all judges Mexican ,
Like eddy bit he should not be mugging off the krays there dead and can’t defend themselves
He mugged the weird nonces off when they was alive lol
He needs to be interviewed by someone professional. 1 of the last original south London gangsters with all the answers and everyones drunk, shouting stuff out, asking rubbish questions and talking all the way through. Waste of time! SOMEONE INTERVIEW HIM PROPERLY PLEASE!!!!!!!
At the end of the day they were villains and in some cases murderers nothing to be proud of.
Thanks for posting this Liam! Brilliant!
Thanks Tyler
@@LiamGalvinFilm Cornell was never one of the Richardson's top men he was one of the many people who were just hired muscle Ronnie waited until Charlie and Eddie were banged up before he shot Cornell that way the Richardsons would be unable to strike back
A very good glimpse into Eddies life. If he really had a bad fallout with Freddie Foreman
He wouldnt be here, Fred didnt fuc about, was the original and last naughty naughty man. Long Live BBF
absolutely right
I don't know yer know, Fred was one dangerous man, but The Richardson's where a heavy firm.
@@job2447yeah freddywas just one dangerous man. Richardsons were plenty of dangerous men
Nice to hear him mentioning Bill “the bomb”💣
Charlie and Eddie were ten times smarter and successful than Ronnie and Reggie if you new the truth about these families you’d be truly disturbed especially the krays it’s not for feint hearted
Life is theatre
What's the truth then
Maybe so but they got fuck all out of it … Where as the Krays platform is known world wide and they ain’t
@@donlogan9840 having a platform world wide or being more rich and successful.. know which I’d rather!
@@lefty3985 yeah but it didn’t last long for them did it lol
Mad to think in a different time the krays would have their own prison channel
Today they'd have their own website complete with raps about how they are the hardest firm in London
Let me tell you something now!!! The Richardson’s was absolutely no joke and well respected. If you’re from Camberwell you know
Camberwell, Walworth, Elephant and Castle, their youth stomping ground
Dwayne defo pal u no u no
At last a decent comment my dad was born in 1946 in lambeth he use to tell me great stories about when he worked at the scrap metal for the richardsons with his good mate yff ❤
Eddie was always a lad and never stopped being one till today, only him and Forman left. Bloody brilliant this! thank you mate.
knew him well personally then did you?
You know it pal
Forman is dead.
@@meatismurder2862 na he’s alive he’s 90 in March
Nice to be safe while talking Ill of the dead .
He said it when they were alive the Krays were nothing just media hype
Eddie might never have been the brains behind the Richardson's business endeavors, but when you got a bit of aggro, Eddie was fearless and didn't give a fuck about anybody. Same as Freddie Foreman. That's why they were so powerful. They'd have a straightener on the drop of a hat. They are in another league above the twins. Mind you, I'm from South London...The Old Kent Road...lol ! So I may be a bit biased. :-)
For someone who says he and his brother were bigger badder brighter than The Twins , sure spent a lot of time talking about them, even the crowd there were more about asking about The Twins more than Charlie or Eddie.
Yeah cause the twins wanted to be infamous ,they built a celebrity image so they’re more spoke about
@@evanmunro7026 cor blimey gov. Would you Adam and Eve it
So what no one was saying that the Krays aren't more famous but not everyone thinks being famous is the most important thing in a life unless you're an X factor contestant
@@russcooke5671 nah I fink me mince pies are playing me up I probably need a bit ov bo peep best get met me loaf a bread dahn fer bit
He needs to go on a stage to make a few bob .Don't blame him for one minute but he obviously didn't have a lucrative criminal career for all his tall tales
I think it was that the Krays wanted to be seen as Celebrity / Club owners who attracted the stars with that slightly hint of fear.
I used love all this shit when I was younger spent a fortune on courtneys and krays books 🙄....now it sounds like load of old shit and all Courtney's stuff was made up ....I feel like a silly boy now 🤣
These fellas were the real deal.
@@Restrodsworth "real deal" as in running protection rackets, frauds and scams which hurt ordinary honest folk trying to feed their families. Don't know why people get so excited about these scumbags. Good stories, but they're pondlife.
@@andyw9255 it’s old school gangland what do you expect?
are you me ?
Does anyone know where and when Eddie will be doing one of these talks again? I want to go.
I only heard of this one from a mate - I'd like to go too
Strange how these people slag off the Krays after they died.
@Stanly Stud what ever float's your boat mate
They’re all grasses at the top, even Arthur Thompson here in Glasgow was one. Crime is just a flesh trade between the top guys and the bottom feeders with the authorities. No such thing as a criminal fraternity
@@dartacus.spartacus1988 did you see that with your own eyes like all talk cos there dead
The krays was Scared off the Richardson brothers .if krays was so powerful why did they not take care off the Richardson gangster they did nothing .they waited till they was all in jail .the krays got brave and shot George cornell the Richardson gang was the top boys in London in the 60s not the krays and that's the bottom line
The Richardson brothers was the top dogs in London in the 60s not the krays
Krays downfall was Ronnie Shooting cornell. If they had played their cards right they could have been millionaire celebrities. Meanwhile, richardson tours the pubs and clubs.
It's Funny you Say That Because According To Donohue Ronnie Had All The Firm Paired Off With Names And Addresses Of The Richardson Firm And Where They The Drank To Wack Um And According To Donohue They Were Just Waiting For The Order To Come Down From Ronnie But Then The Richardson Firm Got Arrested..
@Gary lol krays both a pair of irons
@Stanly Stud Idiot
shows how pathetic gang life is they might have been feared back then but wheres it got him now? anyone can take him on the street you cant stay invincible forever better off just being nice to everyone in the first place
anyone can take him on the street " they all think they are hard men at 80 even though a 15 year old kid could destroy them today.
@@Blobby192he wouldn't think twice of shooting the silly little 15 yr old and you should know better that you respect your elders
back in them days we was a firm, they was a firm & so was that lot over the road,, we put it on them they put it on us & we put it on the other lot, blah blah blah blah etc etc etc,, i cant take no more,, heard it all before!!!
The Krays were thick and narcissistic. Frazer wasn't hard. He was a psychopath but he wasn't hard. Put him in a fist fight without weapons and without his oppos holding down his opponent and he would be slaughtered. Doorman, stuntman, boxer and bit part actor Nosher Powell saw him off and scared the shit out of him.
Probably right but he was always tooled up and was a psycho.
What's the difference?
Nosher was one of only a few men to stand up to the krays when he blanked them from coming into a night club back in the day which pissed them off no end but in the end they had to swallow big balls nosher had 👍
@@Doubletrouble000 Exactly. You didn't mess with Nosher.
No one has ever said that Fraser could have a row on his own without a tool but he was game and seriously hated the aut6
I used to talk to Eddie all the time over Facebook 💯 good guy
It's a very common name.
Love these old stories
Dave Courtney works for the police he said 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
Awesome, lets pay to see scumbags!
Yeah it’s a weird thing isn’t it?
I'm off to watch some paint dry .
Is this a new video??? Great upload
Yes from a few days ago - a friend of mine was at this event and filmed part on her phone - cheers
@@LiamGalvinFilm good to see Eddie doing well. He’s one of the last of that era
When was this filmed ?
The chuckle brothers was the hardest
I suppose Eddie Richardson is the master criminal of the century. How much time has Eddie done! Couldn't even protect Mr Smith's properly.
He's done a lot if years inside got over 20 years for drug importation in 1990 you obviously don't have much info on him ?
@@anthonymitchell8893 idots spend alot of time inside!
@Rob Wood Like I said, Idiots! the other half are innocents, not really half though maybe less than a third, trust me, everyone you meet in there is innocent, I used to be an idiot too!
If it weren't for the Krays would Eddie be on stage doing what he's doing? The same as Freddie Foreman, Dave Courtney etc etc, in my opinion they started the whole gangster boom in the 90"s and paved the way for all the other high profile career criminals to do books, movies, after dinner talks / shows etc.
Your right i agree
The Kray / Richardson rivalry was more media hype I think than anything else.
Harry Roberts is a smashing bloke met him loads times
What a terrible way to live your life
Torture / drug dealing and lengthy prison sentences 😂😂😂😂😂
who are they talking about with angelo dundee
Not a raconteur. The audience are talking among themselves. Utter nonsense.
Reading some of the pointless comments here arguing over who was the best, the Krays or the Richardsons. It like arguing over what is the best STD, VD or the Clap.
The Nash Brothers
Who do you reckon would win out of King Kong and Godzilla?
@@jimmorrison2657 deffo King Kong... he has the rage!
@@burnbrae6948Godzilla could set King Kong alight with his fire breath 👍
@@jimmorrison2657 KK would neutralise the flames with his super strength banana breath! 🌬
I'm a south londoner
And
Oooooooo you're ard
The short Bloke from long goid friday was gangsta ,
What boxer are they referring to at 21 minutes?
Sonny liston
Audley Harrison
Ricky hatton
Why do we venerate these killer's, it's ridiculous...
Absolutely correct I couldn’t agree more they should be jailed not made out as hero’s
Well why u watching the video then and putting comments on here as if u no what old school was about
Why you watching/listening then?
The Richardsons never killed.
Sounds like Charlie got skrewed by people in high places just like millions befor and since some things never change the worst grookes of all govern the world
Eddie was a hard man in a straightner respect to eddie and nay his brother charlie rip stay safe be lucky
So who is telling the truth out of him and Freddie Foreman? They can't both be right!
I’d forgotten about John. Soon as I heard his name I got the Sportsnight with Harry Carpenter theme in my head! I must’ve been 10 or something.
Who is the boxer they are talking about @ 20.20?
Billy Williams aka Bill the Bomb 💣 Bang Bang Ray Hill and Yammy B tell a lot of stories about Bill on their channels mate 👍
@@vespaspence Thanks. I thought it might be, but I didn't hear the name mentioned. I've heard quite a bit about him especially from Yammy B. Such a shame that someone with the potential he had wasn't able to see just how far he could have gone in the Professional game!
Jango. Canning Town legend.
I would have asked what happened to all the money he made?
No bullshit Eddie and Charlie ran London in they day 💯💯💯
they ran parts of london
No one has ever run London never will it is just different people doing different things in different parts. Not one person at the top.
@@gammyg525 who would have stood in their way anywhere in London in their day? They told the Krays they couldn't operate in the West End, fucked Forman out of it.
@@tedphillips3765 they ran the south, the west end and Soho, nowhere else was worth bothering with
@@alternativevieweurope5725 They were good but JP was bigger and the long fella if you really want to talk big and untouchable
Anybody know big Jim McIntosh, he use to paint tower blocks, he was 15ft tall.
Did he also paint houses ? I think he did
The Ghost of Jack the Hat (Mc.Vites custard creams fame) is tea-bagging this 'event'
He's right. Ronnie was the boss not Reggie. Reggie was just his twin business partner. He was completely dominated by Ronnie
did you know them?
@@fasthracing yea I did. Had a nice cuppa with them in vallance road back in the day
@@The.panthera. Lovely cup a Rosie?
12:25 Is that Boris Johnson at the front ? (getting lessons in 'ow to speak proper-like)
This guy has all the charisma of a non-charismatic gangster, I can't listen
He's fuckin 82, how charismatic will you be on deaths door?
@@alternativevieweurope5725 85
Brainless?why look upto people that want to kill and attack another man??????none of them deserve respect.For what at the end of the day?.MONEY.
Nash brothers have family in Luton I've worked for one of them straight goers sparkies 👍
I thought one of them lived in Kent?
@@sametoyoutoo8509 my mates dad had family in Essex he died a few years back ❤️🙏😌☮️he's dad was one of the original brothers take care be lucky
Making money and fame by living on the backs of others.
The whole Eddie V Freddie Foreman incident still intruigs me because they both can't be right about what happened, both very staunch, powerful and dangerous men in thier prime, but who's version of events is the correct one?
Freddies all day long
Who cares ?
@@RoyChadwick51 ooooh!
@@RoyChadwick51 change your channel... I care
@@RoyChadwick51these cunts are dreamers ffs
I see him a few years back in a boozer in chislehursjt..still all love him
Was that the Bulls Head Steve.
Was in wayland Nick in 2000, where I met Reggie Kray would have conversations with him seem like a decent fellow to me I was in awe even asking for his autograph he gave me a signed picture of himself when he was lifting weights in a competition, I still have that photo to this day For the right price any collectors out there..
Are you sure because he died that year I doubt he could lift weights ???
Mate I was in wayland nick from 1999 until late 2000 !
Please put the powder down sound like your a sniffer. How can you try tell me what I know??
Yes I was in nick with reg kray stop Hating And show some respect Why the hell am I gonna lie About something like that🤔🤔🤷🏿♂️
And with regard to Weight lifting he had some old pictures from back in the day when the was weight train. as I said I've got a signed autograph From Reggie kray Any collectors out there interested??
Reggie died in October 2000. He was let out in August 2000 and went too hospital and then a hotel. You must of talked too Reggie at the beginning of 2000?
@@juniorlion27 how much you wanting for the pic. Ill put it with my Charlie Bronson artwork
None of them were smart they all needed up in jail ,,they were just smart with weapons and there fists ,,,
blah blah blah, back seat nobody blisters finger tips on keyboard
The Richardson's were the real guys earning millions and the krays were a couple of puffs in suits earning pittance on credit
I bet u would not say that to the krays
@@debbietodd8829 who cares if he would or not it’s true
@@debbietodd8829 it'd be a bit hard considering there both dead the couple of wankers 🤣🤣🤣
You don't know shit. Lol. That's why the Krays had nightclubs all over London and the Richardsons had a scrap yard. 🤣
Eddie wasn't so tough when Fred stuck a 38 up his hooter
Nobody's tough when they've got a stuck up their nose
Nobody is?
Anyone else fell asleep..
Nope, I watched it all the way through and found it very interesting actually
Yeah mate I did 🥱🥱🥱
Put it this way ...all these people always talk about the krays ...if it wasn't for the krays ...no one would even have a clue who Half these people are !
Surely if your into naughty things you don't want to be well known , Krays didn't have the brains to know that , Charlie Richardson was the real brains
@@johnnyp4001 he didn't want attention but Is only sitting here talking to a room full of people about what he done lol and that's only because of the krays every single one of the them have videos all over RUclips..and who do they all mention?
I no ho thay r
Don't slag people off when there dead do it when there alive
He did tell them both straight read his books the last word and no handcuffs the books tell you everything.
That does not apply to some people
Jimmy Saville 🤷♂️
His wife’s family were protested and the premier of the movie Legend when it came out because of the way it portrayed her and that Reggie never drove her to suicide
Great podcast liam 👍👍
Cheers Benny - a mate filmed it on her phone so can't take the credit!
Wouldn't last 2 seconds in modern day era every dog has its day
The American mafia would have had this lot holding doors open for them .
There's something sad about old men telling stories about how tough they were cos the truth is time is undefeated and as soon as they became middle aged they would have been food for the young lions coming through .
There's also enough evidence that both Krays were a force when they were younger ...they'd stab you up in a breath ...but the same applies to them ...age catches up with them.
The thing about Freddie foreman was that he was a well respected man but why did he stand for the Krays dumping jack the hat on his manor cos that's a liberty , why did he get involved in mad franks murder ...it doesn't make sense .
But let's not forget were dealing with career criminals so their not the most trustworthy of people when it comes to telling the truth
Fred couldn't have unskilled Mcvitie he had to make the best of a bad situation and the best way to do that was to get rid of the body
Absolute bullshit. They are men of their day and nobody would have stepped on their toes, certainly not in their middle age. Many middle aged men are more capable than any 25 year old
"Mad Frank (Fraser) wasn't murdered you mean Frank Mitchell (the mad axeman)
Its Grt listening to these guys, no doubt. But depending who u listening to they tell different stories.
Think one thing fore sure is, Richardsons, Freddie Foreman, Krays, all pretty tough.
Slagging the kraus not here to defend themselves
Yh bang out off order i like the kraus...
@@jshaw4757 🤣
Don't fuck with the kraus
Poppy should traditionally & respectfully be worn on left side
absolutely pal
Stone the crows ,,Eddie must be 90 odd ,still sharp as a razer and this side of the daisy's one word
LEGEND
Hes 85. Freddie Foreman’s 90 in March.
Anybody know Dave hammer mcdoodle,he was a hard man ,he was made of concrete.
No he wasn't.
He was a statue?
Yes Eddie was much smarter than the wrong'un twins. He only did 25years in prison and that proves it. All of them were very, very, very clever people.
Only?
@@davehoward22doing 25 yrs ain't something to be proud of if he said that to their faces they would fuck him off and probably ask how long he as served
Eddie hit the nail on the head regarding the long sentences. Yes they knocked a few people about but all that torture nonsense was just that. Charlie got out of his depth with the South African secret service and his card was marked by the British state. Him and everyone associated with him was going down for a long stretch. I like Eddie. John McVicar had a lot of good things to say about him in his book. But him & Fraser get out of their depth as well with the Hayward firm that night in Catford. They had already tried to muscle their way into Billy Hayward’s gambling clubs and got told where to go. That was the cause of the big fight in Mr Smith’s.
Together with Fraser I find Eddie one of the least trustworthy people when i comes to telling these stories.
The Krays never made any real money till they went to prison, one of their Fan boys won the lottery and gave Reggie £100,000 that kicked things off and they then franchised the kray name for books , doorman/bouncer associations and the like. A lot of people pay well to be associated with notoriety.
We've all got stories from when we were younger. Absolute rubbish
Not many had the influence the Richardsons had around London in their day. The Krays never came close to them.
Upload your stories then!!
Never said out when reg and Ron were alive both was scared of albert reading
You must be mad. The Richardsons weren't afraid of Albert Reading or any man in London. It's likely they didn't speak about the Krays when they were alive because Eddie served time with them and seen them as harmless but okay guys so probably didn't want to diminish them when they were alive
Reg and Ron made more money than the Richardson and take it from me albert reading knocked Eddie Richardson clean out in gartree prison well known fact
@@malcolmroberts2467 maybe Albert Reading did, you win some you lose some but to say the Richardsons were afraid of Albert Reading is stupid talk. If they wanted they could have Albert picked up and disappeared back in the day and nothing would have happened.
As for the Krays making more than the Richardsons, that's just a lie or naivety on your part. The Krays were big fish in a small pond (East End)
@@malcolmroberts2467 Eddie Richardson had way more money than k brothers he had 6 scrap yards by the time he had turned 30 he was a proper businessman
'ave neither of these carrots 'eard of Rodney Pickering ?
Ronnie u ballbag
Ronnie whooo?
@@booooo666 His brother Rodney.
Such a great sense of humor old school legends. R.I.P. to all the fallen. They were all born into that life all brought up in the war just like my dad rest up i have always looked up to people like this always have respect for your elders andd don't judge anyone because when your born in poverty they learnt how to survive in the hardest times. Might be doing wrong things occasionally but its all for the right reasons.
they stole off people that had nothing during the war, they were scum "we only targeted our own"...yeah right plenty of normal people got done over by richardson and the krays, extortion being an example
It’s easy to slag off people when there dead
*they’re
You must. We slag off Hitler. He was a criminal, just like this lot.
Its a shame he compltely ignored the question about the film...