☢TheMasterMind☢ The Aswan changed the delta. Sounds like this will affect more people than just those in Hasankeyf. And I'm very definitely against destroying our archaeological heritage. Why can't we learn from the past? There must be a different reason. Perhaps the projected change in rainfall from global warming? Scarcity of water? Control over neighbouring lands?
Rand Huso [Side note: the planet hasn't been warming for about 8 years - I think the statistic is] This move to obscure the ruins is ostensibly about economics. That's just the cover story. It's really about removing historical evidence which challenges the account of history we have been taught to believe. This discovery shows us that advanced human civilization has been around many THOUSANDS of years prior to what we have been taught in history books. If people begin to try to assess this information and incorporate it into their total knowledge/view of the world, it begs the question: what else about the official explanation of life is totally wrong? They want to destroy the dam to preserve an account of history that is not true, and to continue to feed this account to people en masse.
Cinta Amor-Dragoste You may be right - unfortunately. The religiously-deluded are often against education and knowledge for fear it may dismantle their carefully constructed facade. But as for the climate change - it's still warming, though much of the heat is apparently going into the oceans. Would that it had stopped.
Rand Huso The suppression of counter-paradigm historical evidence is widespread and goes beyond religion. www.google.ie/search?q=graham+hancock+underworld&biw=1252&bih=602&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=tKjzVNvSBLCR7AavooDgDw&sqi=2&ved=0CDMQsAQ This guy Graham Hancock apparently did his own research of these underwater ruins in India over five years and over 100 deep sea dives. The last time these ruins would have seen sunlight would have been over 12,000 years ago - which accords with the Turkish find. But Hancock apparently faces a lot of opposition from many comers. Including the fact that he was censored by Ted talks for promoting the neurologically sound view that the brain does not create consciousness but is a receiver/decoder/convertor of consciousness in the same way as a television set receives/decodes/converts tv signal into images on a screen. His Ted talks video was removed from their site after a few weeks. As much as I enjoyed watching Ted talks, it does dawn on one that there is certainly some sort of agenda behind it. I'm not sure what it is or why, but it is presumably part of more general propaganda agendas in the West.
Turkey is one of the world's oldest centers of civilization,the world's greatest civilizations has been established in this land,Sumerians, Hittites, Byzantine, Roman, Hittite, Seljuk, Ottoman, Lydian, Phrygian, and more many civilizations,so every time the soil is full of history,On the other hand turkey is a counrty that is dependent on countries abroad in terms of energy, so, doesnt matter if wewant to or not, we have to make energy investments for our country !
This. It is an atrocity. A crime against human history as well as those living today. This dam will cause irreversible loss of life both past and present.
since the fall of the dictatorship in iraq, Turkey has built and still building dams that are effecting the amount of water in both main rivers of iraq to force iraq to exchange oil with water
more like bad move as this will 100% cause a war and unite 100% with kurds like never before even might unite all of Iraq as one. also like to note that the Tigris river is also fed by the Iranian mountains but nothing compared to what comes from turkey.
@The big liar lol say that to the kurds in turkey im sure they dont agree with that comment. Also just to point out what turkey is doing to neighbouring countries is not halal and not ethical/legal internationally.
it's sad to see that ignorants and nationalists are still hovering around internet in the 21st century. Is this really the point that you got from this video? very sad.
The dam will supply electricity, stop flooding, help minimize drought, stabilize water flows downstream, irrigate crops, and make life much better for almost everybody affected by it. Unfortunately for the better good of the people, some will not agree with it.
Hopefully they took steps to preserve it. Even if its underwater, it can be filled with sand and then buried. Archaeological sites are often buried to protect them from war, floods and development.
There is nothing 12,000 old there mate there is almost nothing 12,000 old in the entire world expect few small artifacts!! This video isn't saying there is something that old neither they are just talking about the city's history which got believed it is 12,000 years old and you assumed those buildings are that old while in reality they are only few hundred years old. And Turkey is full of few hundred years historical places therefore that talk about turism just BS!! So zero journalism but good propaganda against Turkey i gotta admit it...
These buildings aren't 12,000 years old they are only few hundred years old that's just BS journalism talking about the city's ancient history and implying there are some ancient artifacts while in reality there is none and no offence but you are also dumb enough to believe there are some 12,000 years old buildings in anywhere on Earth...
Huge improvement in progress for the country since the country is facing a huge shortfall in electricity and high costs. Do not understand why people would find it so insulting when it helps people but it's Turkey they resort to anarchy instead of progress.
Only 2% wow! It's not even worth building then. With all that sunshine they should look at solar power. It would make way more sense than building dams and disrupting people's lives.
I'm from turkey and i also feel bad about this project but just for those people. dam project looks ok to me 12.000 yrs old not so much touristic place will not do any good but government has to do something about new settlement and house prices because southeast turkey so poor , struggling from terrorism ( pkk ).
Wow ...from the video I'm taken back from how basic the issue is and how eloquently even those deemed uneducated/illiterate can explain it. 12,000 year old city as the villager said can generate income from tourism long term and prevent the other issues of lack of water down stream. Surprised this site was not protected UNESCO as a lot of sites around the world are? is there no way to save the city and still get 2% electricity ???
Perhaps because this site wasn't 12,000 years old??? They only talk about that the town's history goes 12,000 years back, they aren't saying there is actually anything 12,000 years old in the town but because of a good propaganda viewers especially ignorant ones instantly assumed that the town was actually 12,000 years old while the oldest thing was only few hundred years old...
Im sorry but how is Hasankeyf 12k years old when that is the same age as Gobekli Tepe? None of the structures shown, date back to 9500 bc. Yes it would be nice to save those ancient buildings, but they are no where near 12k years old. The architecture is more similar to Sumerian than anything, which would put them around 6000 yrs ago.
They say the town believed to be 12,000 years old without implying that there is actually something which is 12,000 years old! But ignorant viewers instanty assumed that those buildings were 12,000 years old while in reality they are just few hundred years old ruins which worth absolutely nothing, this video should be used as a teaching material in propaganda schools...
so what ? trade your oil(natural resource) with Turkish water(also natural resource) Iraq(4th biggest oil producer) has more than 1000x oil production over Turkey do we complain when we have 1600₺[unit] minimum wage and have to pay 6.5₺[unit] per liter of oil ? so drink oil or stop complaining.
stealing what ? what are you talking about its natural resource which comes from Turkey/Turkish lands do Iraqis give half of their oil to Turkey for free No ? owww thats a crime Turkey will not sit quetly over this crime (!) now shut up and eat it if you want water you have to pay for it like we do for oil.
@@yakamoz8090 it comes from kurd/kurdish land to be exact and it's neutral resource which flaws naturally , oil is something gets extracted in depth of earth, all iraq has is that oil and you want to do that while knowing what would happen if that water stop floating the mountain of gold will show up
Became the damming of the past. Why Islamic countries still rely on the construction of dams for power generation? Dams have negative effects on the environment, can cause an earthquake of up to 7 on the Richter scale. And also cause problems with neighboring countries. And if the dams collapsed this will cause a major disaster and too expensive to maintain. Why does not depend on the generation of energy from the sun or propellers underwater or on the waves of the sea? Frankly, I think this is a mistake of Turkey.
Hasankeyf üzerine bir Tez hazırlamak istiyorum bu konuda gerek fikirsel ve gerekse de belgesel kaynak bakımından yardımcı olmak isteyen arkadaşlar irtibata geçerse sevinirim.
Dave Hanrahan I'm understand you very much! I question to me self why? But the Answer is very on , not closely? Every government's of this World have and (want& be) Part & Might! The one more, the other much more, right? I'm self Turkish! that's is a point more (for me) that's I'm really "Not Happy" I see something's we this, from around the World! For only 2% a Ancient can. over: 10-12.000 Year Old city? Make be to under water! that really crazy, but we're say same things on the All World. NWO IS OVERALL!!!! THAT'S FACT
Dave Hanrahan Those sayings entertain me too. It's too bad many sayings, including that one, aren't any more right than wrong. Think a little bit and you will find some theories that were completely wrong. We just have to realize they were theories. Even some sicknesses weren't believed to be from the germs that cause them. Their was a theory that the world was flat. If a clock or watch has the date including the year and it stops, it's wrong for ever. Wholly.
so what ? trade your oil(natural resource) with Turkish water(also natural resource) Iraq(4th biggest oil producer) has more than 1000x oil production over Turkey do we complain when we have 1600₺[unit] minimum wage and have to pay 6.5₺[unit] per liter of oil ? so drink oil or stop complaining.
If anything there my be just a loose tie to this story to Atlantis just because many believe Atlantis is now under water, and their city in Turkey will be. The end. Personally that spot they found in Spain, above water, may be the famed Atlantis, but during certain enormous changes with the earth including ice age melts, etc... some societies were flooded and then uncovered centuries after. There are very few, but there ARE some examples of volcanic damage actually destroying whole islands and ancient villages being lost to the sea.
Wow the man at 2:40 speaks the truth. They're going to destroy their way of living only to bring them a lifetime of debt.
I saw it on google maps now it's all underwater ... truly heartbreaking because nothing is left from this beautiful historic town :'(
Like Turkey would care... For Turkey, history begins after AD 1000 ...
Money, always money! so sad :(
Hey allahım nelerle dünyanın karşısına çıkıyoruz. ..
Heartbreaking.
No solar in that area? No wind? There must be alternatives.
Yes tell that to every city in the world that has a dam... To them Its not about finding alternatives, its whats cost effective for "the rich".
☢TheMasterMind☢
The Aswan changed the delta. Sounds like this will affect more people than just those in Hasankeyf. And I'm very definitely against destroying our archaeological heritage.
Why can't we learn from the past? There must be a different reason. Perhaps the projected change in rainfall from global warming? Scarcity of water? Control over neighbouring lands?
Rand Huso
[Side note: the planet hasn't been warming for about 8 years - I think the statistic is] This move to obscure the ruins is ostensibly about economics. That's just the cover story. It's really about removing historical evidence which challenges the account of history we have been taught to believe. This discovery shows us that advanced human civilization has been around many THOUSANDS of years prior to what we have been taught in history books. If people begin to try to assess this information and incorporate it into their total knowledge/view of the world, it begs the question: what else about the official explanation of life is totally wrong? They want to destroy the dam to preserve an account of history that is not true, and to continue to feed this account to people en masse.
Cinta Amor-Dragoste
You may be right - unfortunately. The religiously-deluded are often against education and knowledge for fear it may dismantle their carefully constructed facade. But as for the climate change - it's still warming, though much of the heat is apparently going into the oceans. Would that it had stopped.
Rand Huso
The suppression of counter-paradigm historical evidence is widespread and goes beyond religion. www.google.ie/search?q=graham+hancock+underworld&biw=1252&bih=602&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=tKjzVNvSBLCR7AavooDgDw&sqi=2&ved=0CDMQsAQ This guy Graham Hancock apparently did his own research of these underwater ruins in India over five years and over 100 deep sea dives. The last time these ruins would have seen sunlight would have been over 12,000 years ago - which accords with the Turkish find. But Hancock apparently faces a lot of opposition from many comers. Including the fact that he was censored by Ted talks for promoting the neurologically sound view that the brain does not create consciousness but is a receiver/decoder/convertor of consciousness in the same way as a television set receives/decodes/converts tv signal into images on a screen. His Ted talks video was removed from their site after a few weeks. As much as I enjoyed watching Ted talks, it does dawn on one that there is certainly some sort of agenda behind it. I'm not sure what it is or why, but it is presumably part of more general propaganda agendas in the West.
Turkey is one of the world's oldest centers of civilization,the world's greatest civilizations has been established in this land,Sumerians, Hittites, Byzantine, Roman, Hittite, Seljuk, Ottoman, Lydian, Phrygian, and more many civilizations,so every time the soil is full of history,On the other hand turkey is a counrty that is dependent on countries abroad in terms of energy, so, doesnt matter if wewant to or not, we have to make energy investments for our country !
U.N authorities should intervene and declare this town as a world heritage site.
What do you think the UN will do? There is no authority above the republic of Turkey within the borders of Turkey.
In my mind, the whole concept of this dam is absolutely criminal. No thought or care given at all to the impact of it.
This. It is an atrocity. A crime against human history as well as those living today. This dam will cause irreversible loss of life both past and present.
This is the Kurdish town
since the fall of the dictatorship in iraq, Turkey has built and still building dams that are effecting the amount of water in both main rivers of iraq to force iraq to exchange oil with water
Smart move.......
more like bad move as this will 100% cause a war and unite 100% with kurds like never before even might unite all of Iraq as one. also like to note that the Tigris river is also fed by the Iranian mountains but nothing compared to what comes from turkey.
@The big liar lol say that to the kurds in turkey im sure they dont agree with that comment. Also just to point out what turkey is doing to neighbouring countries is not halal and not ethical/legal internationally.
If u want to have normal nature and more vapor and green fields and not deserts, i recomend destroying every damn.
It's sad to see that it's written in kurdish in the entrance of a TURKISH village!
it's sad to see that ignorants and nationalists are still hovering around internet in the 21st century. Is this really the point that you got from this video? very sad.
Johann Golan Egypt has Pharonic inscriptions. What is your point.
The dam will supply electricity, stop flooding, help minimize drought, stabilize water flows downstream, irrigate crops, and make life much better for almost everybody affected by it. Unfortunately for the better good of the people, some will not agree with it.
I'm surprised they are willing ot admit there have been settlements that predate 6000 b.c
This is what I was thinking, maybe they mean it's a city now but there have been people living in the area since 10,000 b.c.
Hopefully they took steps to preserve it. Even if its underwater, it can be filled with sand and then buried. Archaeological sites are often buried to protect them from war, floods and development.
There is nothing 12,000 old there mate there is almost nothing 12,000 old in the entire world expect few small artifacts!! This video isn't saying there is something that old neither they are just talking about the city's history which got believed it is 12,000 years old and you assumed those buildings are that old while in reality they are only few hundred years old. And Turkey is full of few hundred years historical places therefore that talk about turism just BS!! So zero journalism but good propaganda against Turkey i gotta admit it...
They saved a few buildings. They were moved somewhere else.
one day all historic sites will be gone for the sake of building new and better things. I hope I see some cool places before they gone
Yeah, it's a shame. %2'lik enerji için hem doğal çevre hem 12000 yıllık tarih yok olacak. Yazık.
This is crap. Why would you cover up historical geological ruin's? Upsetting.
Because there are kurds living there that's why.
A lot of the heritage is being moved.
My name is borat
That is historical....A shame they have to ruin it..And ruin the lives of so many all for the name of money....
These buildings aren't 12,000 years old they are only few hundred years old that's just BS journalism talking about the city's ancient history and implying there are some ancient artifacts while in reality there is none and no offence but you are also dumb enough to believe there are some 12,000 years old buildings in anywhere on Earth...
Sad,upsetting,and nothing can be done to stop it.
Huge improvement in progress for the country since the country is facing a huge shortfall in electricity and high costs. Do not understand why people would find it so insulting when it helps people but it's Turkey they resort to anarchy instead of progress.
Why not Solar Power?
Only 2% wow! It's not even worth building then. With all that sunshine they should look at solar power. It would make way more sense than building dams and disrupting people's lives.
It is a plan for selling water to Iraq and to ISRAEL!!! They said that many times.No government in Iraq to put an end to that .
very good
I'm from turkey and i also feel bad about this project but just for those people. dam project looks ok to me 12.000 yrs old not so much touristic place will not do any good but government has to do something about new settlement and house prices because southeast turkey so poor , struggling from terrorism ( pkk ).
Why not solar energy, there is a lot of sun there in that region, since Turkey and the other countries connected with the Euphartes River is desert.
Solar energy isn't baseload power.
I agree with Mahmut.
what a crying shame
money, it rules the world :(
This Turkey my friend. Goverment does want he wants
Wow ...from the video I'm taken back from how basic the issue is and how eloquently even those deemed uneducated/illiterate can explain it. 12,000 year old city as the villager said can generate income from tourism long term and prevent the other issues of lack of water down stream. Surprised this site was not protected UNESCO as a lot of sites around the world are? is there no way to save the city and still get 2% electricity ???
Perhaps because this site wasn't 12,000 years old??? They only talk about that the town's history goes 12,000 years back, they aren't saying there is actually anything 12,000 years old in the town but because of a good propaganda viewers especially ignorant ones instantly assumed that the town was actually 12,000 years old while the oldest thing was only few hundred years old...
This sucks, I feel for the people .
Im sorry but how is Hasankeyf 12k years old when that is the same age as Gobekli Tepe? None of the structures shown, date back to 9500 bc. Yes it would be nice to save those ancient buildings, but they are no where near 12k years old. The architecture is more similar to Sumerian than anything, which would put them around 6000 yrs ago.
They say the town believed to be 12,000 years old without implying that there is actually something which is 12,000 years old! But ignorant viewers instanty assumed that those buildings were 12,000 years old while in reality they are just few hundred years old ruins which worth absolutely nothing, this video should be used as a teaching material in propaganda schools...
Yet to come across 12k years old historical place and here I just found one 🤣
so sad
is this gobeki tepe?
Any news?
Just from reading the description, I can live without electricity if the dam impacts so many things. I'd rather live without electricity.
THİS TOWN WAS UNDER FLOOD
i just watched this for the first time in 2017 can anyone tell me if the dam was ever finished or if if was hopefully moved. What happened in the end?
only few months left to open the dam
Alondra Alfonso rivers dried in iraq
im from mosul - iraq there is no water cuz of the dam
in the end good guys won happy ending.
@@yakamoz8090 sadly you're wrong my friend it was built and completed in July 2019.
iraq's rivers are dried now
so what ? trade your oil(natural resource) with Turkish water(also natural resource) Iraq(4th biggest oil producer) has more than 1000x oil production over Turkey do we complain when we have 1600₺[unit] minimum wage and have to pay 6.5₺[unit] per liter of oil ? so drink oil or stop complaining.
Oh my god... So it begins. World War Z.
Looks like Jabba's Palace
those people are kurdish and turkish goverment dont care abput theier affairs
Funny enough the Kurdish farmers nearby wanted this dam.
what a shame!!!!! I
We need to stopp this , it is irresponsible
Iraq will not sit quetly over this crime of stealing water of the Tigris river
stealing what ? what are you talking about its natural resource which comes from Turkey/Turkish lands do Iraqis give half of their oil to Turkey for free
No ? owww thats a crime Turkey will not sit quetly over this crime (!)
now shut up and eat it if you want water you have to pay for it like we do for oil.
@@yakamoz8090 it comes from kurd/kurdish land to be exact and it's neutral resource which flaws naturally , oil is something gets extracted in depth of earth, all iraq has is that oil and you want to do that while knowing what would happen if that water stop floating the mountain of gold will show up
And they call it progress???NOT!!
Became the damming of the past.
Why Islamic countries still rely on the construction of dams for power generation?
Dams have negative effects on the environment, can cause an earthquake of up to 7 on the Richter scale. And also cause problems with neighboring countries.
And if the dams collapsed this will cause a major disaster and too expensive to maintain.
Why does not depend on the generation of energy from the sun or propellers underwater or on the waves of the sea?
Frankly, I think this is a mistake of Turkey.
Wanna bet?:)
Now hasankeyf destroyed
Living there only kurdhish. Ie the big problems for turkey
@@SandeepKumar-xo8cb its not in iraq. Its in turkey
Hasankeyf üzerine bir Tez hazırlamak istiyorum bu konuda gerek fikirsel ve gerekse de belgesel kaynak bakımından yardımcı olmak isteyen arkadaşlar irtibata geçerse sevinirim.
google a hasankeyf matters yaz. O blogtaki kaynakçalar genelde güzel biraz tek yanlı olsada
Tezi yazdınız mı ?
Same debate took place in China not all that long agi.
Defamation
Ancient Alien cover up!
Saddam needn't have bothered! (Marsh Arabs.)
You're evil.
Hasan keyf is a Kurdish city
yes that's what people get for not ruling over their land
Dave Hanrahan
I'm understand you very much! I question to me self why?
But the Answer is very on , not closely? Every government's of this World have and (want& be) Part & Might! The one more, the other much more, right?
I'm self Turkish! that's is a point more (for me) that's I'm really "Not Happy" I see something's we this, from around the World!
For only 2% a Ancient can. over: 10-12.000 Year Old city? Make be to under water! that really crazy, but we're say same things on the All World. NWO IS OVERALL!!!! THAT'S FACT
Exact
Exactly
Vandalism
Dave Hanrahan Those sayings entertain me too. It's too bad many sayings, including that one, aren't any more right than wrong. Think a little bit and you will find some theories that were completely wrong. We just have to realize they were theories. Even some sicknesses weren't believed to be from the germs that cause them. Their was a theory that the world was flat. If a clock or watch has the date including the year and it stops, it's wrong for ever. Wholly.
Kurdish people had came from zagros mantion by Yavuz Sultan Selim HAN in 1480BC. Before them Azeri Sia Turk lives there.
Who says that Turkish historians who believes that Turkish people
this not good for iraq there is no water there
so what ? trade your oil(natural resource) with Turkish water(also natural resource) Iraq(4th biggest oil producer) has more than 1000x oil production over Turkey do we complain when we have 1600₺[unit] minimum wage and have to pay 6.5₺[unit] per liter of oil ? so drink oil or stop complaining.
@@yakamoz8090 good logic 😂😂.
If anything there my be just a loose tie to this story to Atlantis just because many believe Atlantis is now under water, and their city in Turkey will be. The end. Personally that spot they found in Spain, above water, may be the famed Atlantis, but during certain enormous changes with the earth including ice age melts, etc... some societies were flooded and then uncovered centuries after. There are very few, but there ARE some examples of volcanic damage actually destroying whole islands and ancient villages being lost to the sea.