@@TomMakeHere also the drum beat while working in between dialogue reminded me of his style of editing. Great restoration video, looking forward to you getting some use out of it.
@@TomMakeHere You're lucky, mine (an FP2) was broken so I had to open it and it was broken in such a way I couldn't get the parts out (well a few months of painstaking fiddly work did it eventually). I didn't think the gearbox was that complicated once I sat down and thought it through, and had the help of some schematics. The one thing I did not do was touch the clockwork mechanism that moves the forks around.
Further comment on the scoring (i'm watching and commenting as I go) I had a similar area on my machines X-axis because the table galled in placed due to insufficient lubrication (PO had used grease instead of oil, required a detailed takedown to clean out grease from everywhere). Anyway those scores can catch dirt and grime if they are exposed during travel. the one on my machine definitely was exposed during travel so I bought some specialist epoxy (devcon, but there are other brands) and filled in the gouges, I had to deepen them first with a dremel tool to get a dovetail form, because I wanted it to hold mechanically if the epoxy ever failed. The epoxy is not as durable as the cast iron, but all it needs to do is to fill in the gouges so they don't trap particles and bring them inside your ways. Also this machine does not have power feeds, that's a bummer. Does your other machine have them? I'd weigh that in if having to choose only one.
@@dennisa6132 Some sort of epoxy is a good idea. The galling I suspect is a common problem with these machines, because the x axis ways are vertical rather than horizontal, when extended each way the ways are effectively exposed and could catch particles in the dovetail. I'm tempted to make up some wipers, and for good measure make a bellows style cover for the back My other mill has an x axis powerfeed that I made, but I think it needs an overhaul. So it doesn't really narrow it down 🤣
@@TomMakeHere I believe if you oil it regulary then galling won't be an issue. Rescraping the sliding surfaces would likely help a lot. Galling is more likely when you got smooth surfaces riding against each other. The easiest way IMO is to give the sliding surfaces few light scraping passes for bearing. I plan to do this on my machine soon to reduce the friction. The gib I will scrape too and that I will also scrape some deeper pockets for oil retention since that's never exposed anywhere. I also suggest retrofitting a central pump oiler, they can be had real cheap from ebay (though they need disassembly and cleaning before use), I did that so I wouldn't have to use an oil gun, instead I just have it permanently mounted to the mill and pull a lever to send oil to all the required places via small tubes.
You know, I was getting a little tired from all the 2 hour ASMR machine restoration videos - glad to see something different, dead to the point and with useful narrative. Well done!
I loved this video! I like machines...bigger is better! I am a bit OCD so this restoration is right up my alley and you covered all the bases without missing or ignoring too much. I love metal on metal sounds when the metal is hard and smooth. That sounds like quality! You did a very nice job.
@@TomMakeHere Well, there is a method that definitely qualifies as 'last resort'. I ask 'She Who Must Be Obeyed' to step into the shop and give it her, 'I'm very disappointed' look. On occasion, the seized screw will back out by itself!
Those Deckels are the cat's meow in the machining world! Made in Germany (not the knock offs) by very detail oriented German engineers and machinists. Stefan Gotteswinter recently got one and he couldn't be happier. It's the Swiss Army knife of Mills. Your restoration looks fabulous! Thanks for sharing! 😀
Great job, versatile machine. My father worked at G H Alexander in the mid to late seventies, he was on the maintenance there, I think they built and offered a broaching capacity, and special machine tools, I remember one for turning wrist watch winders screws, when I visited as a youngster. This was in Dudley, Worcestershire, north west of Birmingham. Heres to a great MMXXI. Thanks for sharing. Best regards John from the UK.
The editing on this video is pure joy - thank you for all the hard work 😀 And - lovely job on the mill. Those scores look like galling? - perhaps it has been run dry and under heavy load at some point? I would not worry about them at all though. Once you have decapitated any raised burrs around those areas with the precision stones, there is still more than enough flat area to do the job. It's not pretty, but it'll work perfectly - and won't get any worse so long as it's kept clean and lubricated. Those oil groove mods look like just the job.
Nice work Tommy...this mill is one of the best designs ever for manual mills. I don’t have it but I know that here in my Country Prvomajska AGL100 is one of the most wanted mills. Decker, Prvomajska, Macmon and your mill are all thee same
I'm just not used to it, I can see that it's nice to stand in the one spot to use though. Just the z axis feels a bit awkward. I might need a powerfeed 😁
@@TomMakeHere try to search for deckel FP1 parts maybe you'll find the needed parts for power feed. Search in ebay.de and help yourserf with google translate...If you'll need any help at searching you can contact me... Happy new year
Agreed. Unless there is something un-intuitive or tricky going on, speeding up the operation shows the work without wasting the viewer's time. Nice job on the editing, for sure.
Great video, I’ve used this in the past on a table saw restauration and it works great, they also have rest inhibitor that works great. Boeshield RustFree Rust and Stain Remover
If you need a new variable speed pulley or sheaves, Speed Selector makes pulleys that replace the Reeves, Hi-Lo, TB Woods and Lovejoy pulleys that went out of business or got bought. Most are in stock or Speed Selector will custom make if needed. They have an actual engineering department; very helpful.
Congrats for the big work and video. I have an FP1 copy on its way to me, which should have been well maintained. It didn't come cheap, but it has both the regular and the high speed heads, as well the fixed and swiveling tables. These are on a pallet now and taking up already a lot of space, I am not fit enough to replace any of these by myself so I will have to make a wheeled cart to have them near and attach a winch to the roof beams. I think all the work needed to put it back in service and then learn how to make parts will keep me busy already, so won't be blogging or making videos. But I have almost finished translating the German manual and will be glad to share it on some forum, as apparently one can't get an English version without paying exaggerated money.
I also have a FP1, but I haven’t run it yet. I bought it about twelve months ago and have been building a new workshop. Once three pass power is on I will be able to test it out.Looking forward to it.
I would use a small piece of wood to push metal around bandsaw just so it doesn't ever get your fingers. I know lots of men that have lost a finger. Nice work on your video by the way!
Small world, I worked for that company in Mitcham UK back in the late 70s it was called Precision Grinding but the main company was Alexander precision. I think they are out of business now sadly but I used to build new and recondition old die sinking machines, copy machines and the old machine tools. Really enjoyed working there, also most machines were copies of the German Deckel brand probably under licence due to war reparations. Would love to rebuild one again someday, well done though! Cheers from Australia BTW
What a spectacular machine. I have to say, I love my old cochrane bly mill, wouldn't trade it for a brand new bridgport. But this, this I would seriously consider. I have never been jealous of another person's mill, till now. I can't wait to see this machine making chips
Thank you, it's damn solid for the size Those Cochrane Bly mills look interesting. I've never heard of them. I like interesting and unusual machines, but there are no unusual lathes that I can find
@@craigtate5930 There are numerous mill configurations, but it seems like the lathe has reached peak design? Other than turrets, or bar beds, they all look and operate the same if you know what I mean. I don't know what could be different, I just find it interesting that there doesn't seem to be any variation on the design
@@TomMakeHere lathes.co.uk has a section of multifunction machines. Several seam to be lathe based , a few are rather interesting looking. The leinweber UW-21. In my opinion is well worth looking at, let along some of the others. Some very neat designs. And of course some not so much
Awesome! I Have an original Deckel FP1, including that same swiveling table, but with auto-feeds. I miss the slotting head though. Very interesting to finally see a high-quality video of a fp1 teardown. Never been "down to the bones" as you have. Mechanically, it looks almost identical to mine. Although I'm not half as cleanly as you seem to be... congrats on the nice job and the great video.
Yeah the GHA is a very close copy of the FP1. I was very lucky that the machine was in such good condition inside. A lot of people dismissed the mill Thanks for the comment
I just ran across your video and the color of the mill got my attention.. Thoroughly enjoyed it so I subbed... Don't let me down Tom. Lol.. Looking forward to the gantry crane build..
"The previous owner removed all power feed mechanisms and I don't have any of those parts" Said the guy that built a quick-change gearbox all by himself. I like where this is going xD
Don't dilute the vinegar. Leave any iron/steel in it for about 3 days, and it's as clean as a whistle. Buy it by the 5 litre flagon from most bulk grocery stores. Cheaper the better.
That's a hell of a mill! I hope you can locate replacements for the missing powerfeed components. And really top-notch camera work and editing! Maybe it's just me, but I really prefer the look of these old shop tools in their original paint, wear and all. I think it gives it an honest patina of use and age. Newly-painted surfaces invariably look "wrong" to me, when it's a great old tool like this; like a 1930s car would look with new metalflake paint. But maybe that's just me.
Yeah 100% the paint was always going to be the most controversial part. The light grey was the most appropriate colour that the paint shop had at the time (the others were bright colours) It's all good, the mill has been sold, noone has to look at it on this channel ever again 🤣
Tommy the gun, congratulations on your mill purchase. I think she’s a little bloody ripper. If you keep taking on big restorations like this your gonna give Ca Lem some competition 😂. Cheers Aaron 🍻
I would recommend a mill like this over any other mill because they are not the most rigid or powerful but they compensate with their extended versatility. A nice thing would be to keep them both because you can't really compare them, but is your decision.
Yeah I love universal mills for versatility. I think with a fixed table this would be really rigid. I know my Hercus is quite rigid given it's size, but this machine weighs nearly half again and it's the same size
@@TomMakeHere This was the first time I've seen a small Milling Machine like that. I would love to learn machine work. To me it looks like fun repairing and using a mill.
@@tom18181 Yeah it's actually really difficult, it's about the same size in every way, but has the fancy table, but everything about using the mill feels really awkward at the moment, and changing horizontal to vertical isn't as easy (the head is about 25 kg and has to be carefully placed at chest height). I probably need a little swing arm crane to change the heads I just need to get used to the controls first I think
@@TomMakeHere Oh really. Well that does make it tricky. I guess if it’s still feeling awkward in a few months you might be better off with your other one which is still a very good mill by the looks of it. I guess only time will tell really.
New subscriber here brother, simply and most importantly because of the effort you put forth on this whole project! Keep it coming and I will help promote this channel for sure!
I'd be a little gutted about the auto feeds but aside from that you have the mill I want next. I love my adcock and shipley 1es with bridgeport head but the travel is so limited it's like 13x6" x and y. Nice blue btw
On the other hand, it sounds like a good future project 😁 The powerfeeds sound like they were a pain, they were one set speed unless you play around with change gears. I will make a simple electromechanical system (far simpler than the previous powerfeed) Yes I actually like the blue more and more. Thanks for watching
About 16 years ago I thought I had a FP-1 clone built in Yugoslavia on e ay all wrapped up. Got sniped at the last second. The old use the band saw blade as a band filer. Been there, done that got the tee shirt.
You got lucky with your oil tank. Mine was just half filled with old oil that had turned into a black tar like sludge. Don't think previous owners had run coolant for over a decade and never cleaned the old stuff out. Lucky me...
@@TomMakeHere Great idea! I hadn't thought of that. My mill at work has some pitting but I don't think its deep enough to be able to fill it with JB weld and have it stick
Nice score! I'd be keeping both machines if at all possible, but I guess it's all dependent on available space. Good call on the epoxy paint, I should have used that on the shaper here.
Technically I could squeeze them both in, but they have the same size and same work area, the GHA is more torque-y and offers the universal table. So that kinda decided it
One thing if you do get epoxy paint, check that it is glossy, mine is apparently semi gloss, but it came out kinda matte with a porous surface. One touch with a dirty hand and it stays filthy and can't really be cleaned
Very nice restoration! I had never heard of this manufacturer. This model has a very appealing footprint. You chose a very inventive color scheme. Nicely done. How is the power? Thanks for sharing this.
I had never heard of it either, it is a clone of the more well known Deckel FP1 (German made). I was able to cut full width with a 63 mm facemill, with a 2 mm depth of cut in mild steel, It has got some power and rigidity for the size! Yes colours are always controversial ha ha. I like it though, it looks like a high tech machine from space😁
I have a deckel fp1 in similar shape waiting for a rebuild. Your ways really need scraping. They are damaged by galling due to the poorly designed oil grooves (which really surprised me). It won’t run like it should until you address that.
Cheers, I nearly made chips in this video, but I haven't trammed the table and head (that will be a process with 4 directions to get right) and I wanted to get this video done so I could move on to the next thing
Scored/galled X-axis, about every old small Deckel has that. I milled down the scored layer on my FP2 NC and replaced it with bronze liner, scraped it afterwards. Wasn't nearly as deep as on this machine and FPx NC dovetail/box way geometry is much better to machine than those dovetails on FP1.
I'm thinking I'm at least going to epoxy fill the galling to prevent contaminants collecting in there I think some sort of bellows covering would be a good idea on the x axis, as the ways are fairly exposed
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The spirit of Jimmy Diresta is strong with this one.
I got the razor because it was a cool thing, but it is so useful to have. I need to make a handle for it
@@TomMakeHere also the drum beat while working in between dialogue reminded me of his style of editing. Great restoration video, looking forward to you getting some use out of it.
@@DRIFTWORKSINC True, he often does something like that during cad sequences. The fast drum beat made sense to me for fast forward cleaning 🤣
Awesome, Tom. Im glad that you didnt mess with the gearbox. I spent 2 months to just put them back together.
Yeah from what I could see and hear, everything is fine inside there, so I just gave it an oil change ha ha
@@TomMakeHere You're lucky, mine (an FP2) was broken so I had to open it and it was broken in such a way I couldn't get the parts out (well a few months of painstaking fiddly work did it eventually). I didn't think the gearbox was that complicated once I sat down and thought it through, and had the help of some schematics. The one thing I did not do was touch the clockwork mechanism that moves the forks around.
Further comment on the scoring (i'm watching and commenting as I go) I had a similar area on my machines X-axis because the table galled in placed due to insufficient lubrication (PO had used grease instead of oil, required a detailed takedown to clean out grease from everywhere). Anyway those scores can catch dirt and grime if they are exposed during travel.
the one on my machine definitely was exposed during travel so I bought some specialist epoxy (devcon, but there are other brands) and filled in the gouges, I had to deepen them first with a dremel tool to get a dovetail form, because I wanted it to hold mechanically if the epoxy ever failed. The epoxy is not as durable as the cast iron, but all it needs to do is to fill in the gouges so they don't trap particles and bring them inside your ways.
Also this machine does not have power feeds, that's a bummer. Does your other machine have them? I'd weigh that in if having to choose only one.
@@dennisa6132 Some sort of epoxy is a good idea. The galling I suspect is a common problem with these machines, because the x axis ways are vertical rather than horizontal, when extended each way the ways are effectively exposed and could catch particles in the dovetail. I'm tempted to make up some wipers, and for good measure make a bellows style cover for the back
My other mill has an x axis powerfeed that I made, but I think it needs an overhaul. So it doesn't really narrow it down 🤣
@@TomMakeHere I believe if you oil it regulary then galling won't be an issue. Rescraping the sliding surfaces would likely help a lot. Galling is more likely when you got smooth surfaces riding against each other. The easiest way IMO is to give the sliding surfaces few light scraping passes for bearing. I plan to do this on my machine soon to reduce the friction. The gib I will scrape too and that I will also scrape some deeper pockets for oil retention since that's never exposed anywhere.
I also suggest retrofitting a central pump oiler, they can be had real cheap from ebay (though they need disassembly and cleaning before use), I did that so I wouldn't have to use an oil gun, instead I just have it permanently mounted to the mill and pull a lever to send oil to all the required places via small tubes.
You know, I was getting a little tired from all the 2 hour ASMR machine restoration videos - glad to see something different, dead to the point and with useful narrative. Well done!
Cheers. I try to spice it up a little ha ha
Greetings, dear Tom. I really enjoyed your video and got here via Cutting Edge Engineering. Congratulations on your work! Saudações do Brasil. 6:29
I loved this video! I like machines...bigger is better! I am a bit OCD so this restoration is right up my alley and you covered all the bases without missing or ignoring too much. I love metal on metal sounds when the metal is hard and smooth. That sounds like quality! You did a very nice job.
Thank you! Glad you like
Hot Damn!! Another adherent of the "crescent wrench with a hole as cheater bar" school of machining!!!
Got any other tips for something that is seized? I didn't want to use a hammer 😅
@@TomMakeHere Well, there is a method that definitely qualifies as 'last resort'. I ask 'She Who Must Be Obeyed' to step into the shop and give it her, 'I'm very disappointed' look. On occasion, the seized screw will back out by itself!
@@stephenland9361 😂 that will do it!
Those Deckels are the cat's meow in the machining world! Made in Germany (not the knock offs) by very detail oriented German engineers and machinists. Stefan Gotteswinter recently got one and he couldn't be happier. It's the Swiss Army knife of Mills.
Your restoration looks fabulous!
Thanks for sharing! 😀
I am so tired of people confusing what you need with what you want.
You dont NEED it but you WANT IT! Good to go!
Ha ha
Great job, versatile machine.
My father worked at G H Alexander in the mid to late seventies, he was on the maintenance there, I think they built and offered a broaching capacity, and special machine tools, I remember one for turning wrist watch winders screws, when I visited as a youngster. This was in Dudley, Worcestershire, north west of Birmingham.
Heres to a great MMXXI.
Thanks for sharing.
Best regards John from the UK.
Well there you go
It is a good machine
Happy new year to you
Interesting video. Thanks. You got a lot done in a short amount of time.
Thanks! It was a fun project
The editing on this video is pure joy - thank you for all the hard work 😀 And - lovely job on the mill.
Those scores look like galling? - perhaps it has been run dry and under heavy load at some point? I would not worry about them at all though. Once you have decapitated any raised burrs around those areas with the precision stones, there is still more than enough flat area to do the job. It's not pretty, but it'll work perfectly - and won't get any worse so long as it's kept clean and lubricated. Those oil groove mods look like just the job.
Yeah not too sure, it might be because the oil grooves weren't connected, so wasn't getting enough oil. Agree, shouldn't be an issue really
@@TomMakeHere - I wonder how in God's name that was *supposed* to work, without the oil grooves connected to the oil supply?
@@somebodyelse6673 Maybe the oil was assumed to nicely smear across the surface under gravity. Who knows
Gday Tommy, this mill turned out great, the slotting head is a big bonus, I’d keep both mate for sure....
We'll see how we go ha ha. Kinda thinking I sell one to help pay for a lathe like yours 😁
@@TomMakeHere that’s a great idea, I don’t believe you will be disappointed
Nice work Tommy...this mill is one of the best designs ever for manual mills. I don’t have it but I know that here in my Country Prvomajska AGL100 is one of the most wanted mills. Decker, Prvomajska, Macmon and your mill are all thee same
I'm just not used to it, I can see that it's nice to stand in the one spot to use though. Just the z axis feels a bit awkward. I might need a powerfeed 😁
@@TomMakeHere try to search for deckel FP1 parts maybe you'll find the needed parts for power feed. Search in ebay.de and help yourserf with google translate...If you'll need any help at searching you can contact me... Happy new year
‘I don’t need it though’! We all know that’s not the way it works 😂
Ha ha yeah the opportunity was too good to pass up 😂
Love it! Great editing work too. The many hours were worth it.
Thanks Alistair! I'm certainly happy with it
Agreed. Unless there is something un-intuitive or tricky going on, speeding up the operation shows the work without wasting the viewer's time. Nice job on the editing, for sure.
Love the omniversal table feature, happy new Year, cheers from John, Australia.
Yeah it's a really cool table! Have a good new year saying goodbye to 2020!
WD and a brush helped me restore many a bicycle left out in the rain. Great content!
Yeah it works surprisingly well!
Love the Dr. Who reference!
Thanks!
Great video, I’ve used this in the past on a table saw restauration and it works great, they also have rest inhibitor that works great. Boeshield RustFree Rust and Stain Remover
Cheers, I will look into it
Nice cleanup on a nice machine. Glad you're going to "revisit" some aspects of it you found that need work.
It's still in need of work lol. I've not had a chance to touch it yet. I have a lot of plans for this machine
Awesome job. Love the Doctor Who reference!
Cheers! Wasn't sure if anyone would pick up on that ha ha
beautiful mill
Thank you!
If you need a new variable speed pulley or sheaves, Speed Selector makes pulleys that replace the Reeves, Hi-Lo, TB Woods and Lovejoy pulleys that went out of business or got bought. Most are in stock or Speed Selector will custom make if needed. They have an actual engineering department; very helpful.
Look great. I hope you find the machine satisfying.
It is a great machine, however I have now upgraded
Congrats for the big work and video. I have an FP1 copy on its way to me, which should have been well maintained. It didn't come cheap, but it has both the regular and the high speed heads, as well the fixed and swiveling tables. These are on a pallet now and taking up already a lot of space, I am not fit enough to
replace any of these by myself so I will have to make a wheeled cart to have them near and attach a winch to the roof beams. I think all the work needed to put it back in service and then learn how to make parts will keep me busy already, so won't be blogging or making videos. But I have almost finished translating the German manual and will be glad to share it on some forum, as apparently one can't get an English version without paying exaggerated money.
EvapoRust is the best rust remover I've used.
I probably should have gotten some, but the brush worked great
Evaporust !!!!!!!!
Some restorers on European channels appears to get very good results from a product called "MC-51", which I imagine is very similar to Evaporust.
1 is not a collection, keep them all 💪🏼
Very space consuming collection. I'd need a second floor put in!
I have a 1960 FP1 Deckel and it is wonderful to use.
They are good machines. Solid and well built
I also have a FP1, but I haven’t run it yet. I bought it about twelve months ago and have been building a new workshop. Once three pass power is on I will be able to test it out.Looking forward to it.
Nice! Hope you enjoy it. I've not really used this, but I can certainly see it's a nice machine
Really cool resto video, Tommy! The editing job you did was exceptional, giving us a birds-eye view of the entire process. Classic mill!
Glad you enjoyed it!
I would use a small piece of wood to push metal around bandsaw just so it doesn't ever get your fingers. I know lots of men that have lost a finger. Nice work on your video by the way!
Good tip, I'm quite attached to my finger tips
Thanks for watching!
when he said "time to drop some acid" i subbed
😁😁😁
Small world, I worked for that company in Mitcham UK back in the late 70s it was called Precision Grinding but the main company was Alexander precision.
I think they are out of business now sadly but I used to build new and recondition old die sinking machines, copy machines and the old machine tools.
Really enjoyed working there, also most machines were copies of the German Deckel brand probably under licence due to war reparations.
Would love to rebuild one again someday, well done though! Cheers from Australia BTW
That's cool
Thanks for watching
What a spectacular machine. I have to say, I love my old cochrane bly mill, wouldn't trade it for a brand new bridgport. But this, this I would seriously consider. I have never been jealous of another person's mill, till now. I can't wait to see this machine making chips
Thank you, it's damn solid for the size
Those Cochrane Bly mills look interesting. I've never heard of them.
I like interesting and unusual machines, but there are no unusual lathes that I can find
@@TomMakeHere hmmm. That makes me think. What in your mind constitutes an unusual lathe?
@@craigtate5930 There are numerous mill configurations, but it seems like the lathe has reached peak design? Other than turrets, or bar beds, they all look and operate the same if you know what I mean. I don't know what could be different, I just find it interesting that there doesn't seem to be any variation on the design
@@TomMakeHere lathes.co.uk has a section of multifunction machines. Several seam to be lathe based , a few are rather interesting looking. The leinweber UW-21. In my opinion is well worth looking at, let along some of the others. Some very neat designs. And of course some not so much
I do enjoy mill rehab videos. This was fun, if fast.
Awesome! I Have an original Deckel FP1, including that same swiveling table, but with auto-feeds. I miss the slotting head though. Very interesting to finally see a high-quality video of a fp1 teardown. Never been "down to the bones" as you have. Mechanically, it looks almost identical to mine. Although I'm not half as cleanly as you seem to be... congrats on the nice job and the great video.
Yeah the GHA is a very close copy of the FP1. I was very lucky that the machine was in such good condition inside. A lot of people dismissed the mill
Thanks for the comment
Nice mill, and a slotting head to boot. How come I can never find that sort of thing on Gumtree? Wah 😥
I snapped this up within 24 hours of the ad going live lol. That might be why 🤣
Your not on your own there Mark 🤷🏻♂️
@@MattysWorkshop Oh come on, you've got that nice big mill and new lathe. You are all sorted!
I agree Mark, Deckel accessories are rare here in Aus. There is a nice shaper in NSW for sale on gumtree though.
Excellent video and love old machinery bought back to life
Cheers!
Interesting paint job: I didn’t know they made Dremels in that size.
I might have painted it like this to stir people up 😁
I just ran across your video and the color of the mill got my attention.. Thoroughly enjoyed it so I subbed... Don't let me down Tom. Lol.. Looking forward to the gantry crane build..
Yeah I like the colours together.
Thanks for the sub, I'll try not to disappoint 😂 Hopefully you like the gantry video
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Good honest work, enjoyed. BTW, signed up, will cruze your past work on line. Thanks for the look.
Awesome, thank you!
I try to make every video good in some way, so hopefully it's to your liking!
very good proyect..thanks for your time
Thanks for watching!
"The previous owner removed all power feed mechanisms and I don't have any of those parts"
Said the guy that built a quick-change gearbox all by himself.
I like where this is going xD
There are certainly ideas going through my head 😁
Nice work!!!
Thanks!
Nise job, Tom. I like the colorz.
Good score mate and you did it justice.
Thank you!
Don't dilute the vinegar. Leave any iron/steel in it for about 3 days, and it's as clean as a whistle. Buy it by the 5 litre flagon from most bulk grocery stores. Cheaper the better.
That's a hell of a mill! I hope you can locate replacements for the missing powerfeed components.
And really top-notch camera work and editing!
Maybe it's just me, but I really prefer the look of these old shop tools in their original paint, wear and all. I think it gives it an honest patina of use and age. Newly-painted surfaces invariably look "wrong" to me, when it's a great old tool like this; like a 1930s car would look with new metalflake paint. But maybe that's just me.
Yeah 100% the paint was always going to be the most controversial part. The light grey was the most appropriate colour that the paint shop had at the time (the others were bright colours)
It's all good, the mill has been sold, noone has to look at it on this channel ever again 🤣
Tommy the gun, congratulations on your mill purchase. I think she’s a little bloody ripper. If you keep taking on big restorations like this your gonna give Ca Lem some competition 😂. Cheers Aaron 🍻
Cheers Aaron. Just hard to find decent machines worth restoring in Tas ha ha. No idea how I managed to land this one
That’s a great restoration mate, nothing better then using equipment that you have spent that much time fixing.
Cheers! Yeah everything else looks a bit shabby now...
Lovely mill, used to use one at the factory where it was made Precision Grinding Mitcham
Yeah I think I've decided I will keep it
I would, love to have but nowhere to keep it
I, too, like to scream at the top of my lungs, while using an angle-grinder. It makes it go faster!
(Awesome video btw!)
It's very effective until you get dust and paint flecks in your mouth
I won't confirm that it happened, but I also won't say it didn't... 🤣
I would recommend a mill like this over any other mill because they are not the most rigid or powerful but they compensate with their extended versatility. A nice thing would be to keep them both because you can't really compare them, but is your decision.
Yeah I love universal mills for versatility. I think with a fixed table this would be really rigid. I know my Hercus is quite rigid given it's size, but this machine weighs nearly half again and it's the same size
Get rid of the blue love the vid nice mill that thanks
Ha ha I knew the blue would be controversial lol
good work
Thanks!
Very nice restoration of a fine little machine with great utility and features. The “cave man hammer” had me laughing. Thank you for sharing this.
Thanks for watching!
Hello Tom,
An enjoyable video and one cool Deckel FP1 clone at the end of it...
Take care
Paul,,
Cheers, glad you enjoyed it
Also I got your stickers, I will have a sticker board update soon 😁
I really like that mill, I want one just like it. Good iron lurking under crud is hard to beat when cheap
Yeah it's a nice machine underneath, and good castings. There were no voids or filler used that I could see
13:49 Awesome Dr. Who reference....
Cheers!
More people understood it that I thought ha ha
I'm slightly jealous lol. Ok I'm ALOT jealous haha I can't find a milling machine of any kind for less than $4000 in my neck of the woods
Yeah this was an absolute fluke to come across to be honest
That was funny -
"this is silky smooth" *SNAP*
It helps when you fully assemble before demonstrating 🤣
@@TomMakeHere This was the first time I've seen a small Milling Machine like that. I would love to learn machine work. To me it looks like fun repairing and using a mill.
@@zband9016 yeah, small decent mills are rare. Machining is fun, it gives you the ability to make almost any mechanism
Nice work on editing. Learning lots from you. Great content too
Awesome! Thank you!
Very nice job 👍
Thank you! Cheers!
@@TomMakeHere so which mill do you think you will keep? That new one looks like it has some cool features with its table
@@tom18181 Yeah it's actually really difficult, it's about the same size in every way, but has the fancy table, but everything about using the mill feels really awkward at the moment, and changing horizontal to vertical isn't as easy (the head is about 25 kg and has to be carefully placed at chest height). I probably need a little swing arm crane to change the heads
I just need to get used to the controls first I think
@@TomMakeHere Oh really. Well that does make it tricky. I guess if it’s still feeling awkward in a few months you might be better off with your other one which is still a very good mill by the looks of it. I guess only time will tell really.
Mait, I say! What a lovely colour combo, that reminds me... nogatools? Cannot really tell, but it is lovely very much, mait!
Cheers
New subscriber here brother, simply and most importantly because of the effort you put forth on this whole project! Keep it coming and I will help promote this channel for sure!
Cheers!
It's all in the interest of leaning more!
I'd be a little gutted about the auto feeds but aside from that you have the mill I want next. I love my adcock and shipley 1es with bridgeport head but the travel is so limited it's like 13x6" x and y. Nice blue btw
On the other hand, it sounds like a good future project 😁
The powerfeeds sound like they were a pain, they were one set speed unless you play around with change gears. I will make a simple electromechanical system (far simpler than the previous powerfeed)
Yes I actually like the blue more and more.
Thanks for watching
Хубава фреза за частен бизнес🙂
About 16 years ago I thought I had a FP-1 clone built in Yugoslavia on e ay all wrapped up. Got sniped at the last second.
The old use the band saw blade as a band filer. Been there, done that got the tee shirt.
It's a good machine
and yeah I'm liking having a vertical bandsaw ha ha
Thank you for the effort. Well done.
Thanks for watching!
You got lucky with your oil tank. Mine was just half filled with old oil that had turned into a black tar like sludge. Don't think previous owners had run coolant for over a decade and never cleaned the old stuff out. Lucky me...
lovely. I ran some kerosene at the end to get things flowing better, but generally mine was quite vacuumable thankfully
Excellent Mill and work....love it....keep it
Thank you!
NO NO NO NO, Green, always green color. dude, com on... :D
Ha ha. I thought that way once.
A pink Bridgeport will be next ;)
Very nice . Good job . Looks great !
Thank you! Cheers!
I wouldnt call it restoration but detailing.Good video and editing
Yeah fair feedback. For the most part this machine was in good condition. I will revisit a few of the issues later
Thanks for the comment
That looks awesome, I like the blue accents 👊😃👍
Thank you! Cheers!
13:49 Nice touch most people would've gone with Star Wars not with Dr Who, that was one scary and sad episode.
Ha ha thanks. More people got the reference than I was expecting
Fantastic :) but keep the Hercus! Set it up in horizontal and keep this one vertical?
I'll play with it and see. I really do like that Hercus though, it might need a restoration too. I'd have to keep the Hercus green though!
Great job on the mill restoration!! Bummer about the scoring on some sections but it over all looks great!
I will be going back with JB weld to fill those areas
Thanks for watching
@@TomMakeHere Great idea! I hadn't thought of that. My mill at work has some pitting but I don't think its deep enough to be able to fill it with JB weld and have it stick
13:58 I thought you said you gave your uncle a coat, for extra protection.😁 Excellent resto, mate!!👊😉
My uncle is much warmer now 😂
"I did multiple coats for extra protection" ha ha
Thanks for watching
Nice job man...you saved a mill in 2020..not many can say that...Happy New Year...;-)
Cheers! Let's all gladly say goodbye to 2020!
Nice!
Thank you! Cheers!
Nice job Tom your editing is great.....Id love to find ablittle mill like that.
cheers! yeah it's a lot of mill for the footprint
Nice score! I'd be keeping both machines if at all possible, but I guess it's all dependent on available space. Good call on the epoxy paint, I should have used that on the shaper here.
Technically I could squeeze them both in, but they have the same size and same work area, the GHA is more torque-y and offers the universal table. So that kinda decided it
One thing if you do get epoxy paint, check that it is glossy, mine is apparently semi gloss, but it came out kinda matte with a porous surface. One touch with a dirty hand and it stays filthy and can't really be cleaned
Very nice restoration! I had never heard of this manufacturer. This model has a very appealing footprint. You chose a very inventive color scheme. Nicely done. How is the power? Thanks for sharing this.
I had never heard of it either, it is a clone of the more well known Deckel FP1 (German made).
I was able to cut full width with a 63 mm facemill, with a 2 mm depth of cut in mild steel, It has got some power and rigidity for the size!
Yes colours are always controversial ha ha. I like it though, it looks like a high tech machine from space😁
Jeffrey Crocker vibes, which is high praise.
Cheers. I wasn't aiming for that, but I'll take it 😁
Thanks for watching!
Great work there, well done.
Maybe next project is to restore the missing power feed?
That's the plan. Watch this space :)
Nice job Tom, can't say the blue does anything for it
Colour is probably the most subjective thing ha ha
All good, the way I shoot with close ups, you will hardly see it 😁
I like the two tone paint job. Just like cars with two colors.
Nicely done! Pristine restoration!
Cheers! Thanks for watching
Trabalhei com várias máquinas dessas.
Eles são sólidos e bem desenhados. Obrigado por assistir
So cool you how to clean up Miller machine l love
How much please
Thank you. It actually is for sale at the moment, but I'm in Australia
That's it. There was a reference to 9, I have to subscribe.
More people picked up on that than I expected 😁
I have a deckel fp1 in similar shape waiting for a rebuild. Your ways really need scraping. They are damaged by galling due to the poorly designed oil grooves (which really surprised me). It won’t run like it should until you address that.
Yeah I just got a scraper the other day. I plan to scrape what I can, and then put covers over the back which is quite exposed
Thats a nice score there Tom. Great video editing as normal. Looking for ward to some chips being made. Regards Kevin
Cheers, I nearly made chips in this video, but I haven't trammed the table and head (that will be a process with 4 directions to get right) and I wanted to get this video done so I could move on to the next thing
Good video, really enjoyed that.
Thanks 👍
Epic work on this!
Cheers
Nice job 👍
Thank you! Cheers!
Scored/galled X-axis, about every old small Deckel has that.
I milled down the scored layer on my FP2 NC and replaced it with bronze liner, scraped it afterwards. Wasn't nearly as deep as on this machine and FPx NC dovetail/box way geometry is much better to machine than those dovetails on FP1.
I'm thinking I'm at least going to epoxy fill the galling to prevent contaminants collecting in there
I think some sort of bellows covering would be a good idea on the x axis, as the ways are fairly exposed
You so gotta get yourself a set of brass punches.
instant sub, after that intro :)
What, the bad acting?! 😂