Man I love these roads. Open and long sight lines are personally my favorite just because you can see for miles around and you know some idiot won’t pull out in front of you last minute.
I personally am just going to do the 107 because I do plan on eventually do a bigger bore headson it so to save the money on it would be better. And I like the chrome motor more.
I have a 2019 RGS. I installed the OEM Torque Cam because of the warranty. Tuned it on the dyno, and the result is 94 HP at the Wheel and 155 NM at the Wheel. Love the bike, im from germany and here the bike costs about 28.000€ Added the fang spoilers and wrapped front fender,.... best bike i ever had. Suspension-wise i will change to Wilbers in the winter. Best regards from Germany 👍 Monty
damn. I watched and listened this entire vlog. im impressed by how pertinent everything you included in your edit was. I've had my RGS 2020 for 6 months now, 4200 miles. I have share a ton of the same opinions as you. I am just now getting my bars and grips changed. Went with LA Chopper 12" Thresher bars and OID grips. In the next year I am to get the intake, exhaust, and cam changed out. it's tough putting so much effort into a project such as your videos, and RUclips not reward you, but I hope you keep up the vlogging brother. You are great at it.
Bako, you see to be upgrading your bike how I will mine: comfort mods first then performance. Get comfortable for the miles then go faster lol… i really like vindikta hoopteaze bars.
Sick looking bike, I personally prefer dual exhaust on baggers. I am running a bassani 2x1x2 with tab slip on’s on my street glide. Great look and no loss in power or torque. Love the bars on your bike 2.
@@MeathedMoto moonshine Harley uses fullsac X-over headpipe on a lot of their engine builds. They have a lot of informative videos on their channel if you’re undecided on future mods
I have the 2020 STGS, and I will say that the Hoopteez bars look sweet on the Road Glide and have a nice view for the rider. Old School batwingers like me struggle for the "perfect T-bar" performance look. Nice blacked out ride!
@@MeathedMoto Stage 1, but I don't really consider it a major upgrade, 12 inch apes, but I have 14 inch Hoop Deez on order. I would like to work on suspension next.
I consider stage 1 a performance mod as you notice it in the pants. However the cam upgrade is much more significant. My opinion on suspension is that if you hate the stock suspension upgrade. If you can tolerate it or see no issues then i wouldn't worry too much.
Damn thats some beautiful scenery , bad ass bike and enjoyed the info !! I sold my 08 deluxe a few yrs back and am currently looking at the 21 RG with 107 ,hell that 96 twin cam had plenty of power to me , cant imagine what the M8 feels like 😆
I think I get why you posted this. I believe in my video I said something along the lines of the 107 spooling up faster to redline than the 114s. These specs say the same thing because the diameter of the pistons in the 114s is not only larger but it has to travel a longer distance so it feels slower in the bottom end.
@@MeathedMoto for those that are curious what the difference is. I tried the 107 in a softail standard and didn’t like it. Tried the 114 in the fat bob and loved it. Was it the difference in engine? Probably not. Bought the road glide special with the 114 only because it came in the color I wanted.
@@MeathedMoto I agree the 107 would be “snappier” and rotate quicker. With both less mass and less stroke. It was because you said something about the only difference was the bore size. I was curious how much different it was and saw the stroke was different. And the compression ratio is slightly different as well. Either way the M8 got me out of sport bikes and metrics. So good on Harley for building a motor I am extremely pleased with.
Hope you see this. You mention in the video (9:29) that the M8 is exhaust sensitive and you could get close to 110 HP just by getting a specific exhaust. Can you tell me which ones you would recommend? I just bought a used 19 RGS and really want to do a Stage 1 but want to get the best bang for the buck. I'm new to riding but I like the deep throaty sound that gets loud when you get on the wrist. Great video. Very informative. Keep up the great work. Plus one on the Sub.
I'm currently gonna be swapping to a Bassani Road Rage 2 mid length and will get some sound demos up for it. Most 2 into 1 exhaust that are mid length (stops under the bags) and full length will net you that 110 horsepower at the wheel with a cam upgrade. My exhaust right now with my S&S 475 cam made 106 hp on the Dyno after tuning. So my recommendation would be to look at a Bassani, Sawicki, TBR or if money is no object, HPi or SPB fab. Just to be clear, YOU WON'T GET 100+ HP WITHOUT SWAPPING CAMS. A good exhaust and tune with better intake filter or whole air cleaner will get you to about 85-90 HP depending on the climate you live in.
Not necessarily but it's an evolution in the air cooled motor that makes more hp and runs cooler. I just did a cam upgrade to the motor and went from 80ish hp to 106hp. What comes next from harley will probably make the M8 look like a dud as it should.
I generally where a jacket for riding. But sometimes no matter how well a jacket flows air it's hotter than satan's ball sack. When you go down what's the natural instinct? Put your hands out to catch yourself so that's why there's still gloves on my hands.
If you want the fairing and stereo I'd go for it. Otherwise everything from the front end back is nearly the same on the Road Kings to Road Glide. I like the M8 over the twin cam as well
@@MeathedMoto Is the ride with the larger, low profile tires comparable to the Road King? When I test rode it, the bike seems like a very firm, almost rough ride and I noticed alot of vibration in your bike and in your voice in this video .
Before you do the trade do a test ride of the RGU and the SGU, imo its only 10% different between a SG and a RG, If you want weather protection and less buffering go for a SG if you want looks and ventilation go and a lighter front end go for the RG, however a truly well sorted RK is a very solid all rounder !
Depending on the weight of you and your rider and the amount of stuff you carry you will not need heavy duty suspension you will just set your pre load a little heavier for when you are together I was told unless you are 300+ with a rider you really don’t need the hd springs
Also you think your suspension isn’t bad but until you get legends or Ohlins or what ever you get you you won’t realize how bad it really is. You wanting more travel is the correct because the stock doesn’t travel at all it’s stiff as can be
@@MeathedMoto right on bro. I’m gonna get the klockwerks windshield for my 21 RGS. I’m 6’3 would you say the bigger shield would work best or you think the 9 in does the job just fine?
Question i have a 21 road glide with stage one,tab performance with zombies baffles 4.5 been thinking of stage 2 but not sure what goes into that....is it worth it?
A cam is definitely worth the upgrade man. Even with my less than ideal exhaust I still made over 100hp at the rear wheel and 120 tq. I'd check out fuelmoto's website they have an article all about the different cams for the M8. There you can find which one best matches your riding style. I would also look into getting a different head pipe (one without a cat in it) to maximize your power gains. I did upgrade my cam chest as well with an S&S oil pump and camplate to really bullet proof it all. Send me a DM on IG I can give you a full breakdown on the parts I did for my cam upgrade. My IG is meathed_moto
@@MeathedMoto i guess the other dumb question would be will it mess with my warranty saying i only put on 3000 miles this season. And it a brand new bike. (If you know)
@@JamesWatsonPA i am under the impression as long as the harley dealer does the work it should not void the warranty. But dont quote me on that. They were fine with the stage one and told me it will not void the warranty.
@@MeathedMoto I am 5,9ft. I will try this year change my Road King Classic to Road Glide CVO Mako Shark fade (2019). I was worried if I will have same good visibility as on my Road King ;). Anyway thx for fast reply.
Well aware man. The stock suspension doesn't really work anyways. I've put it on the lowest setting and even my weight barely sags the rear. That's why I swapped to Legend REVO-As. They actually work
So I originally spent $500 on the cam, pushrods, tappet cuffs, lifters, gaskets and inner cam bearing. The install price with tune was $800 but I had the guy install a S&S camplate and oil pump at the same time. Little over 2k in the cam chest but the motor runs cooler, makes 106hp to the rear wheel with stock 107 displacement, injectors, throttle body etc.
It is. And I agree the price is steep. However it mitigates the oil coming up your breathers and back into your intake. I find the RGS spools up quicker too. May be just in the seat of my pants
@@MeathedMoto yeah the bore is the same at 4.060" but you stated the stroke was the same. And you were talking about low end torque so it was about the stroke not the bore.
I'm sure I made mention of this in the video. If I didn't it's my bad. But yeah they're not really that different and a lot of guys have said they prefer the 107 over the 114 in stock form. 107 has a bit less stroke and bore so it revs up faster to me. With my larger cam in it now this bike hauls ass and I'm very happy with my 107
As someone that raises longhorns. I loved your appreciation notice there. Hahaha good in-depth conversation on the bike
Man I love these roads. Open and long sight lines are personally my favorite just because you can see for miles around and you know some idiot won’t pull out in front of you last minute.
I enjoy riding where I don't have to be on edge every second as well. I also think it's more enjoyable to watch people ride on an open road
Thanks bro good honest reviews. I learned a lot and listened closely because I’m picking up my 2021 road glide next week end!
Glad I could help
114ci all the way! Stage 2 with the torque cam. Beast!! Inquiring about stage 3 though. The Stage 2 torque cam provides a very pleasing lope.
I personally am just going to do the 107 because I do plan on eventually do a bigger bore headson it so to save the money on it would be better. And I like the chrome motor more.
I have a 2019 RGS. I installed the OEM Torque Cam because of the warranty. Tuned it on the dyno, and the result is 94 HP at the Wheel and 155 NM at the Wheel.
Love the bike, im from germany and here the bike costs about 28.000€
Added the fang spoilers and wrapped front fender,.... best bike i ever had.
Suspension-wise i will change to Wilbers in the winter.
Best regards from Germany 👍
Monty
Great video mate. Well presented, well edited. 🇦🇺✌🏻
damn. I watched and listened this entire vlog. im impressed by how pertinent everything you included in your edit was. I've had my RGS 2020 for 6 months now, 4200 miles. I have share a ton of the same opinions as you. I am just now getting my bars and grips changed. Went with LA Chopper 12" Thresher bars and OID grips. In the next year I am to get the intake, exhaust, and cam changed out.
it's tough putting so much effort into a project such as your videos, and RUclips not reward you, but I hope you keep up the vlogging brother. You are great at it.
Best compliment I've gotten! Thanks man. I'll have a 20k review of the Road Glide out. All the things I've replaced or fixed as well as what's changed
@@MeathedMoto follow me on IG @BAKO_BAGGER I got you too
Bako, you see to be upgrading your bike how I will mine: comfort mods first then performance. Get comfortable for the miles then go faster lol… i really like vindikta hoopteaze bars.
Sick looking bike, I personally prefer dual exhaust on baggers. I am running a bassani 2x1x2 with tab slip on’s on my street glide. Great look and no loss in power or torque. Love the bars on your bike 2.
I may be going to a 2 into 1 this winter but we will see
@@MeathedMoto moonshine Harley uses fullsac X-over headpipe on a lot of their engine builds. They have a lot of informative videos on their channel if you’re undecided on future mods
I'm aware of their channel. It's got great content for sure
I had to get 13" Ohlins and 30mm Cartridge kit from Big Bear Performance for my 21 RGS. Stock suspension is trash in my opinion.
I really appreciated your review. Especially the ride
Appreciate that man!
I have the 2020 STGS, and I will say that the Hoopteez bars look sweet on the Road Glide and have a nice view for the rider. Old School batwingers like me struggle for the "perfect T-bar" performance look. Nice blacked out ride!
vindikta makes a hoop teez bar for the Street Glide that are tbar position for the hands but they allow you to still see and use the touch screen
The first mod I do on any bike is suspension. Legends front and rear will make you feel like you're on the bike it should have been from the factory.
Next on my list
I agree 💯 with Doug on this one.
Cool to see someone from my area doing motovolgs, I’m just NW of you up in Madison. Perhaps someday we’ll run into each other, excellent video sir 👍
I ride up that way fairly often! I'm sure we will then!
I think your right in the 6 gear at 75 mph when i give it gas its no touque at all on the 107. So is it true the 114 has mor power in the upper gears?
2019 Street Glide 6 months old 10000 miles. I'm looking at making some performance changes to it. Great video!
No performance mods currently?
@@MeathedMoto Stage 1, but I don't really consider it a major upgrade, 12 inch apes, but I have 14 inch Hoop Deez on order. I would like to work on suspension next.
I consider stage 1 a performance mod as you notice it in the pants. However the cam upgrade is much more significant. My opinion on suspension is that if you hate the stock suspension upgrade. If you can tolerate it or see no issues then i wouldn't worry too much.
@@MeathedMoto Stage 1 is meh for me. My son has stage 1 on his bike and loves it. Rear suspension and cam are probably what I'll do next.
@@MeathedMoto mm
Damn thats some beautiful scenery , bad ass bike and enjoyed the info !! I sold my 08 deluxe a few yrs back and am currently looking at the 21 RG with 107 ,hell that 96 twin cam had plenty of power to me , cant imagine what the M8 feels like 😆
It's gonna be a different beast then you throw a cam in it and it becomes a monster. You should check out my first impression of the S&S 475 cam
It feels like vroom
A cammed M8 can make the same power/torque, or a little more, as a stage 4 twin cam
Mine made 106hp and 119tq with a less than ideal performing exhaust
Thanks for making this honest and helpful video
No problem. I'll probably have another review coming near the end of this upcoming season of riding
Below are the specifications for the new engines:
ENGINE 107
Bore 3.937 in.
Stroke 4.375 in
ENGINE 114:
Bore 4 in.
Stroke 4.5 in.
Ok...
I think I get why you posted this. I believe in my video I said something along the lines of the 107 spooling up faster to redline than the 114s. These specs say the same thing because the diameter of the pistons in the 114s is not only larger but it has to travel a longer distance so it feels slower in the bottom end.
@@MeathedMoto for those that are curious what the difference is.
I tried the 107 in a softail standard and didn’t like it. Tried the 114 in the fat bob and loved it. Was it the difference in engine? Probably not. Bought the road glide special with the 114 only because it came in the color I wanted.
My bad my dude. I thought it was in regard to a statement I made about the time to redline between the 2 motor
@@MeathedMoto I agree the 107 would be “snappier” and rotate quicker. With both less mass and less stroke.
It was because you said something about the only difference was the bore size. I was curious how much different it was and saw the stroke was different. And the compression ratio is slightly different as well.
Either way the M8 got me out of sport bikes and metrics. So good on Harley for building a motor I am extremely pleased with.
Hope you see this. You mention in the video (9:29) that the M8 is exhaust sensitive and you could get close to 110 HP just by getting a specific exhaust. Can you tell me which ones you would recommend? I just bought a used 19 RGS and really want to do a Stage 1 but want to get the best bang for the buck. I'm new to riding but I like the deep throaty sound that gets loud when you get on the wrist. Great video. Very informative. Keep up the great work. Plus one on the Sub.
I'm currently gonna be swapping to a Bassani Road Rage 2 mid length and will get some sound demos up for it. Most 2 into 1 exhaust that are mid length (stops under the bags) and full length will net you that 110 horsepower at the wheel with a cam upgrade. My exhaust right now with my S&S 475 cam made 106 hp on the Dyno after tuning. So my recommendation would be to look at a Bassani, Sawicki, TBR or if money is no object, HPi or SPB fab. Just to be clear, YOU WON'T GET 100+ HP WITHOUT SWAPPING CAMS. A good exhaust and tune with better intake filter or whole air cleaner will get you to about 85-90 HP depending on the climate you live in.
Binging on your vids bro-
Get the ss 475 its is amazing
You should watch my more recent vids. I have the 475 cam in the bike for almost a year now.
What bars do you have on your road glide?
Vindikta 12" rise Hoop Teez
Those bars are called thrasher bars i have 14 inch chrome ones on my 19 road glide cvo i love them.
No they aren't. LA Choppers has thresher bars. These are from a company called Vindikta that was making these style bars before LA Choppers
Nice bike Bro!!…Ride Safe!!!
So are you saying anything pre M8 is obsolete? I love my 103 and Im not an old guy. Just asking
Not necessarily but it's an evolution in the air cooled motor that makes more hp and runs cooler. I just did a cam upgrade to the motor and went from 80ish hp to 106hp. What comes next from harley will probably make the M8 look like a dud as it should.
The 114 actually has a longer stroke than the 107 and bigger bore of course
Yes I know
I HAVE SAME KIND OF ROADS IN TEXAS
Do you get any helmet buffeting? I have a street glide and its pretty bad at times
Not really much. The KLOCKWERKS definitely helps a lot
IS THAT A HARLEY DAVIDSON MOTORCYCLE 🏍 OR WHAT KINDA IS YOUR BIKE?
HARLEY ROAD GLIDE
"By the power of greyskull! I HAVE THE POWERRRR!"
I never understand the thought process of wearing gloves but no jacket.
I generally where a jacket for riding. But sometimes no matter how well a jacket flows air it's hotter than satan's ball sack. When you go down what's the natural instinct? Put your hands out to catch yourself so that's why there's still gloves on my hands.
@@MeathedMoto I agree.... Anyone who has ever gone down even on a bicycle understands how easy it is to mess up your hands.
I'm thinking about trading in my road king 4 one?
If you want the fairing and stereo I'd go for it. Otherwise everything from the front end back is nearly the same on the Road Kings to Road Glide. I like the M8 over the twin cam as well
@@MeathedMoto Is the ride with the larger, low profile tires comparable to the Road King? When I test rode it, the bike seems like a very firm, almost rough ride and I noticed alot of vibration in your bike and in your voice in this video .
Before you do the trade do a test ride of the RGU and the SGU, imo its only 10% different between a SG and a RG, If you want weather protection and less buffering go for a SG if you want looks and ventilation go and a lighter front end go for the RG, however a truly well sorted RK is a very solid all rounder !
What is the light flashing on the guage? It went from yellow to green.
Cruise control. It's not flashing it's just the frame rate of the camera making it look like it's flashing
💯👍
Depending on the weight of you and your rider and the amount of stuff you carry you will not need heavy duty suspension you will just set your pre load a little heavier for when you are together I was told unless you are 300+ with a rider you really don’t need the hd springs
Also you think your suspension isn’t bad but until you get legends or Ohlins or what ever you get you you won’t realize how bad it really is. You wanting more travel is the correct because the stock doesn’t travel at all it’s stiff as can be
@@dylanmoore3764 just look for the road kings 13 inch shocks
Does that dipstick really make a difference?
It's debatable. I think the more critical thing is oil level to prevent excess oil in your air filter and air cleaner
@@MeathedMoto right on bro. I’m gonna get the klockwerks windshield for my 21 RGS. I’m 6’3 would you say the bigger shield would work best or you think the 9 in does the job just fine?
Question i have a 21 road glide with stage one,tab performance with zombies baffles 4.5 been thinking of stage 2 but not sure what goes into that....is it worth it?
A cam is definitely worth the upgrade man. Even with my less than ideal exhaust I still made over 100hp at the rear wheel and 120 tq. I'd check out fuelmoto's website they have an article all about the different cams for the M8. There you can find which one best matches your riding style. I would also look into getting a different head pipe (one without a cat in it) to maximize your power gains. I did upgrade my cam chest as well with an S&S oil pump and camplate to really bullet proof it all. Send me a DM on IG I can give you a full breakdown on the parts I did for my cam upgrade. My IG is meathed_moto
@@MeathedMoto i guess the other dumb question would be will it mess with my warranty saying i only put on 3000 miles this season. And it a brand new bike. (If you know)
@@wiscony104 I'm curious about how hard core harley is about warranty enforcement if you have the dealer do the work with harley parts.
@@JamesWatsonPA i am under the impression as long as the harley dealer does the work it should not void the warranty. But dont quote me on that. They were fine with the stage one and told me it will not void the warranty.
Yes! I love the stage 2 torque cam
What state are you in?
South Dakota
Thats some nice place man.
What is your height ? I saw You had camera near your eyes height :).
I'm 6'0. My camera is mounted on the chin of my helmet
@@MeathedMoto I am 5,9ft. I will try this year change my Road King Classic to Road Glide CVO Mako Shark fade (2019). I was worried if I will have same good visibility as on my Road King ;). Anyway thx for fast reply.
No problem my man
You need to adjust pre load on rear shocks when you add a passenger.
Well aware man. The stock suspension doesn't really work anyways. I've put it on the lowest setting and even my weight barely sags the rear. That's why I swapped to Legend REVO-As. They actually work
Did you lower that bike?I have a 2020 streetglide special
Nope
Mine is just stock height. I plan on upgrading front and rear suspension in the future but I spent this year's parts money on my camchest upgrade
@@MeathedMoto I see I want that same upgrade about how much did that run you?
So I originally spent $500 on the cam, pushrods, tappet cuffs, lifters, gaskets and inner cam bearing. The install price with tune was $800 but I had the guy install a S&S camplate and oil pump at the same time. Little over 2k in the cam chest but the motor runs cooler, makes 106hp to the rear wheel with stock 107 displacement, injectors, throttle body etc.
@@MeathedMoto ok think that’s the rout I’m gonna go I have the 114 motor I’m assuming it’s gonna be a similar price and HP and torque outcome
What kind of bars and size are those?
I was wondering the same!
They are Vindikta HoopTeeze T-Bars :)
What oil dip stick did u go with
Feuling vented dipstick
@@MeathedMoto that's was like 300$ right
It is. And I agree the price is steep. However it mitigates the oil coming up your breathers and back into your intake. I find the RGS spools up quicker too. May be just in the seat of my pants
@@MeathedMoto how do you feel about the A1 vented dipstick
Never seen them
Errrrrm, no the stroke on the 107 is 4 3/8" while on the 114 it's 4 1/2".
The bore and stoke are different my friend
university.fuelmotousa.com/article/h-d-milwaukee-8-engine-big-bore-displacement-info/
@@MeathedMoto yeah the bore is the same at 4.060" but you stated the stroke was the same. And you were talking about low end torque so it was about the stroke not the bore.
They definitely have a different stroke
What State are you in , love that country Road you are on!!!!!!!
I'm in South Dakota. Currently live in the Sioux Falls area.
107s and the 114s , there is not a lot of difference there
I'm sure I made mention of this in the video. If I didn't it's my bad. But yeah they're not really that different and a lot of guys have said they prefer the 107 over the 114 in stock form. 107 has a bit less stroke and bore so it revs up faster to me. With my larger cam in it now this bike hauls ass and I'm very happy with my 107
Dive on the front:-/ maybe you need to use your rear brakes more often ?
70% of your braking is supposed to be on the front brake.
those are not tbars
They identify as tbars
Great video, nice bike.. the Bike price in Denmark= $105.000 thats why I dont like to live in a socialist country.. you pay very high tax% :(
Yikes
Harley suspension is absolute garbage. It should’ve been the first thing I got rid of.
I eventually did too and I agree it's trash
What height bars are they?
12"