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As someone entirey new to Ableton, coming from Logic years ago, this was sick to watch you build out a song in real time using session view. Most tutorials just show how to swap between the two and briefly touch on Session but this shows the power of it. Sick!
Thanks, this is perfect for where I'm up to at the moment I've been playing around and making full sounds and wanted to know how to separate them out and make an intro, a drop and other parts. So this is exactly what I need to see. Subscribing to your channel, you can be my tutor. Definitely keen to see part 2 after I've gone away and put this to practice.
i like the session view and i mainly use that. but there is one limitation compared to arrangement view that bothers me. sometimes you want something to phase in before the downbeat. for example, drums that are reintroduced starting with a fill before the downbeat when all clips start. you can do it with a dedicated scene or clip, but it is a bit awkward and quite a big potential to fuck your performance up. i would prefer if clips could start before the downbeat but still hitting (just not with the first note) on the downbeat automatically. there is that function for clips to have them start different to how they loop. that could be used in theory to do want i think about, you just need to press the transport trigger soon enough to give time to play the pre downbeat fill out. but it does not work like that. the clip starts on the downbeat or immediately if you set it to that.
I remember discovering Ableton over 10 years ago and realising how amazing the session view is for building tunes in a non linear fashion; blew my mind. Do you feel more people should be making beats this way? I still see a lot of people start their tunes in the Arrange view - for me, you're not using Live as it was made to be is you do that. Now that I've got off my soapbox, good vid! good luck with the channel mate.....
Not seen this idea on RUclips but it's totally a powerful use of.ableton functionality. Took me a while to work this way myself but it's the future! It's easy to get confused in Ableton because of the possibilities but one thing this approach does is let you go mad with experimentation and then make sense of it later. I can have multiple ideas in one channel and multiple tracks that I can then play with and discover happy accidents with combinations of track sounds and clips. Not sure you covered it but a key part of my workflow these days is playing with all kinds of mixtures of clips to discover arrangements that feel good and then use the 'capture and insert scene' to create that mix in one scene with all the relevant clips aligned horizontally. This way I can start another set of scenes below all the madness of my experimentation that form the arrangement in a sort of progressive way. That way it's just a case of progressing through the arrangement scene by scene. Once that's done, like you I'll get into the fairy dust and automation in the arrange page. You could even export groups at this point for some self-imposed limitations to keep you focussed on mixing or mastering duties. With a good workflow I think Ableton can give you maximum creativity and functionality. Great vid and probably saved some people a ton of pain!
Basically if your are playing random clips in session mode, and even if they are in different 'scenes' or 'vertical space', no matter what is muted or playing if you hit 'Ctrl+ Shift+ I" or the mac equivalent it will create a new scene with only the playing clips. Soo say you have a bunch of clips and not sure what might create a good section of the track or sound good you can play clips from any part of the session view and hit the shortcut and it combines into a new scene 'horizontal line' ready to trigger. @@Anorectic.Bumblebee
So the best way for arrangement is not using arrangement view but session view. How does the rest of ableton work, to make melodies you need the drum kit and for synt sounds you select a drumcomputer?
@@LouixIskander wow appreciate this one, to be honest I mix in logic and produce in fl studio. But I used Ableton for sometime when I was making house grooves. The session page is serious for that, especially if you have a novation launchkey lol. Ableton pricey though, logic is the ultimate goat
@@whostroubled u still make house grooves and how have you improved? I don’t see why I’d need to leave ableton even though people say logic produces a more neutral sound
you can launch every clip in session view at any time. the scenes trigger all clips in a horizontal line. but you do not need to use that and you can audition every combination possible. within one track (vertical) you can only trigger one clip at a time. so, if you have 12 tracks, you can have a maximum of 12 clips playing at the same time
no, but you could easily just count the bars yourself. this would be a pretty boring arrangement though and defeat the hole object of this technique imo
ye man, its one of the foundations of the software - check out 'follow actions'. You can set it up to do a few different types of 'action' (such as play next, play previous etc...as well as some chance/random settings too) per 'scene' or 'clip' and when those actions should happen i.e. specify bars or just after a clip has played its full length for example. Its cool as you can have it just auto playing through your scenes OR you might just have it play through a bunch of loop variations just on one channel. Hope that helps...
I do the same but literally use one clip for each element then use a launchpad to trigger and record the result. Means you can instantly and spontaneously record the track rather than create an arrangement in session. I use this method to play live sets at gigs. I condense the elements into 8 groups to fit the midi controllers paradigm with a beat repeat and filter on each. First group kicks n snares, second other percs and so on... means each time to play your session, it's different. Check my page for examples.
these videos are so helpful thx, just discovered using session view like this super cool
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@@synthohubeducation yes I sure will brother, you are greatly appreciated!
What I love about this way of working, is that it allows you to later use your tracks to play live gigs. Thats awesome, thank you.
Nice track btw.
Amazing, simple and effective tutorial, thanks lot, and such a cool song is that!
As someone entirey new to Ableton, coming from Logic years ago, this was sick to watch you build out a song in real time using session view. Most tutorials just show how to swap between the two and briefly touch on Session but this shows the power of it. Sick!
Cheers mate! We have a full beginners course on our website.
thanks for these videos bro, learning Ableton has been made easy thanks to u
Great vid, great style of teaching and great tune. Had fun packing the microgreens and learning from you today. B back soon mate. Thanks.
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Thanks for the kind words dude
Thanks, this is perfect for where I'm up to at the moment I've been playing around and making full sounds and wanted to know how to separate them out and make an intro, a drop and other parts. So this is exactly what I need to see. Subscribing to your channel, you can be my tutor. Definitely keen to see part 2 after I've gone away and put this to practice.
Thanks Rosanna! If you want to see more in-depth stuff, head over to the SYNTHO website!
i like the session view and i mainly use that. but there is one limitation compared to arrangement view that bothers me. sometimes you want something to phase in before the downbeat. for example, drums that are reintroduced starting with a fill before the downbeat when all clips start. you can do it with a dedicated scene or clip, but it is a bit awkward and quite a big potential to fuck your performance up. i would prefer if clips could start before the downbeat but still hitting (just not with the first note) on the downbeat automatically. there is that function for clips to have them start different to how they loop. that could be used in theory to do want i think about, you just need to press the transport trigger soon enough to give time to play the pre downbeat fill out. but it does not work like that. the clip starts on the downbeat or immediately if you set it to that.
Brilliant @Josh, much more inspiring than starting an arrangement with an empty canvas. Will put this to the test straight away. Thanks a million 🙏🏻
Thank you! Glad you like the tutorial - let us know how you get on!
A joy to watch ❤
Dope, I revisit this a few times, expanding my commitment to Session view, thanks G, linked up 🍭🍬🖤
Appreciate that
great vid and love your music,
thank you!
Great Process!
Really helpful! Nice pace to the video dude, good to follow along with.. Big ups from Cornwall!
thanks Jack!
I remember discovering Ableton over 10 years ago and realising how amazing the session view is for building tunes in a non linear fashion; blew my mind. Do you feel more people should be making beats this way? I still see a lot of people start their tunes in the Arrange view - for me, you're not using Live as it was made to be is you do that.
Now that I've got off my soapbox, good vid! good luck with the channel mate.....
Hey mate - I prefer session view for sure! but I no a lot do it in arrangement...
Love this😊
Not seen this idea on RUclips but it's totally a powerful use of.ableton functionality. Took me a while to work this way myself but it's the future! It's easy to get confused in Ableton because of the possibilities but one thing this approach does is let you go mad with experimentation and then make sense of it later. I can have multiple ideas in one channel and multiple tracks that I can then play with and discover happy accidents with combinations of track sounds and clips. Not sure you covered it but a key part of my workflow these days is playing with all kinds of mixtures of clips to discover arrangements that feel good and then use the 'capture and insert scene' to create that mix in one scene with all the relevant clips aligned horizontally. This way I can start another set of scenes below all the madness of my experimentation that form the arrangement in a sort of progressive way. That way it's just a case of progressing through the arrangement scene by scene. Once that's done, like you I'll get into the fairy dust and automation in the arrange page. You could even export groups at this point for some self-imposed limitations to keep you focussed on mixing or mastering duties. With a good workflow I think Ableton can give you maximum creativity and functionality. Great vid and probably saved some people a ton of pain!
would you be willed to explain this concept to me in an anydesk skype session further?
Basically if your are playing random clips in session mode, and even if they are in different 'scenes' or 'vertical space', no matter what is muted or playing if you hit 'Ctrl+ Shift+ I" or the mac equivalent it will create a new scene with only the playing clips. Soo say you have a bunch of clips and not sure what might create a good section of the track or sound good you can play clips from any part of the session view and hit the shortcut and it combines into a new scene 'horizontal line' ready to trigger. @@Anorectic.Bumblebee
Great one, really clear, Josh!!🎉
Thank you!
This is cool thank you!
This one was solid. Much appreciated!!
Just switched form logic to ableton. Supper helpful!
@@Diego_Estes Great, glad you found it useful!
So the best way for arrangement is not using arrangement view but session view. How does the rest of ableton work, to make melodies you need the drum kit and for synt sounds you select a drumcomputer?
Here goes the start of my Ableton journey….🎉
we have a beginners course if you're interested! check out our app.synthohub.com
How much have you improved in a year?
@@LouixIskander wow appreciate this one, to be honest I mix in logic and produce in fl studio. But I used Ableton for sometime when I was making house grooves. The session page is serious for that, especially if you have a novation launchkey lol. Ableton pricey though, logic is the ultimate goat
@@whostroubled u still make house grooves and how have you improved? I don’t see why I’d need to leave ableton even though people say logic produces a more neutral sound
Thank you very much!!
welcome!
Hahahha i loved your workflow. Thanks for the knowledge!
pleasure!
Subscribed
Thanks!
Great vid on doing the arrangement in session view. This would be amazing with push 2. Have you tried it?.
Ive not but I know how effective that can be!
thank you so much! helps so fucking much bro
No problem, glad you found it helpful!
is there a way, on session view, to scroll through tracks individually and launch different clips in different positions?
you can launch every clip in session view at any time. the scenes trigger all clips in a horizontal line. but you do not need to use that and you can audition every combination possible. within one track (vertical) you can only trigger one clip at a time. so, if you have 12 tracks, you can have a maximum of 12 clips playing at the same time
That's how i make my Hip-Hop Beats on Ableton
I found an absolute cure for hayfever
IS it possible to create a song from session view?
Thanks man
100% mate! You can see me do more of this inside the SYNTHO app.
Is there a way to tell ableton to sequentially play each scene for a specific amount of bars automatically?
no, but you could easily just count the bars yourself. this would be a pretty boring arrangement though and defeat the hole object of this technique imo
ye man, its one of the foundations of the software - check out 'follow actions'. You can set it up to do a few different types of 'action' (such as play next, play previous etc...as well as some chance/random settings too) per 'scene' or 'clip' and when those actions should happen i.e. specify bars or just after a clip has played its full length for example. Its cool as you can have it just auto playing through your scenes OR you might just have it play through a bunch of loop variations just on one channel. Hope that helps...
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I do the same but literally use one clip for each element then use a launchpad to trigger and record the result. Means you can instantly and spontaneously record the track rather than create an arrangement in session. I use this method to play live sets at gigs. I condense the elements into 8 groups to fit the midi controllers paradigm with a beat repeat and filter on each.
First group kicks n snares, second other percs and so on... means each time to play your session, it's different. Check my page for examples.
Nice man!
So, when you're arranging, you want to use session view. Got it.
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I've been searching so long for a method like this TY !
Can't understand that heavy British accent. Skipping.
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terrible tutorial, please demo from the start next time