What Terrified Jordan Peterson About the Son of God
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"Human history is the long terrible story of man trying to find something other than God which will make him happy."
C.S. Lewis
Great quote
Um, other people? Friendships? Marriage? Children? Pets? Seems like that's a fairly solved problem there, C. S..
@@AlexReynard Only God is faithful. Pets maybe. People not so much. If you put all your faith in people, expect to be disappointed. Which is not to say that we should not love people. In fact, when people err, always forgive. Even your enemies!
@@JCJNET Don't move the goalposts. We weren't talking about faithful. The quote was "something other than God which will make him happy", and I answered that.
@@AlexReynard you can have all of them and still feel lonely, depressed, etc
Whilst at the death bed of my dear husband 4/25/2020, he gifted me such profound greatness. He taught me in complete silence not to fear death and that God is there if you put your trust in Him. I do this via 🙏 every day since. Be not afraid sayeth the scripture multiple times. 🤗 ❤
God is there whether or not you put your trust in Him or not. The indwelling of God the Holy Spirit. Is a gift from God the Father, not a reward for us making good choices. Roman's 3 explains this. 11:42
Psalm 23:4
"Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me."
Sometimes you have to read something at face value and not be compelled to correct, give an opinion on, or state some other fact you know. Yours is one of those. I’m sorry someone else felt the need to do something like that.
@@pdshepherd Thank you. 🤗
Your husband was wise and strong spiritual leader. God bless you and the fact he is with our Lord. May that bring you peace everyday on this earth❤️
Psychology inevitably fails b/c in the face of pain we don't want analysis, reason, or explanation. All we want to hear is that we are loved & it will be okay. God bless you, doc (and Jonathan).
People who hate Jordan be like, "Look! He's having strong emotions at the thought of something beautiful and profound! And we're laughing at him! *This somehow makes us smarter or better than him!"*
This. And then there are those of us that love him for this!
@@BrainSturgeon I *wish* I could cry like he does. I feel emotional, but something in me is so numbed that, it won't push over the edge to give me the catharsis of a good cry. I'll cry, like, four or five times a year. Not good.
@@AlexReynard This doesn't make you less of a human being. Personally, I can start crying just by thinking about my kids. I don't believe that makes me less of a man. Just accept who you are and what you are. Embrace your strengths and your weaknesses. They both are part of who you are.
@@AlexReynard Nah, you're good. That don't mean you're heartless. I cry whenever I think about really deep and profound philosophical or religious concepts. I especially cry when I think about God's love, that's when I cry the hardest. Other than that I almost never cry like you lol
@@AlexReynardI've never been capable of an emotional cry. I had a mother who was a paranoid schizophrenic/raging alcoholic mother who broke my ability to. I can get teary eyed watching a good movie, but that's it. I wish I could. It would probably have saved me a lifetime prone to addiction
Gosh - there are moments in life when 'narrative' and 'objective' touch - they are moments when eternity meets the present - when heaven meets earth. Then in those moments we face a choice...
I had that a few times in life, which resulted in a very strong narrative being put forward. So far, for me, that has always been about other people then myself. It seems no one wants to know, but I can tell you this. The more something hurts, the more I want to know it, and the more I come to know about it. Pain leads to knowledge, and if we throw that away, we will throw away what makes us human
So far JP has chosen to take silver from the pharisees…
Jordon please you are right there!! Stop with the overthinking! He is there waiting for you!
The terror we feel at accepting Christ has an immediate corresponding opposite Joy given to the one who humbles himself and steps into the seeming abyss.
nonsense
The only terror is the guilty of sin. Jesus took the terror from me and all who believe.
@@roberttyler1206 AMEN
I have never known a Christian who ever felt terror (which is a disturbing adjective) in the process of accepting Christ, the belief in God our Father almighty and the Holy Spirit! It’s generally always something you desire, and he’s always there if you just let him in!
@lantose Are you a Christian? The weight of sin and eternity separated from God for unbelievers, is terrifying for me. Thank You , Jesus.
You can do it Dr. Peterson! His grace is sufficient.
I suspect Daniel 2: 40-43 is a sophisticated metaphor for the ten toes of the digital technocracy having feet of clay. And Vigano gave a valid warning about a virtual reality like the Matrix. But I caution that Vigano was wrong about Vatican II. I believe Vatican II was sung to the motion of the Holy Spirit, a sacrifice of praise sung in the frequency of Abel's voice.
@@dalelerette206 SIN wave. False signs and wonders. High powered signals, scrambling the thoughts of many. Causing confusion. Even brain cancer. Covenant of death as simple as checking the box; terms and conditions. Giving (free will) authority and sovereignty over many aspects, if not all aspects, of ones own life.
In the last days, men shall make for themselves a molten graven image that does speak, and they shall bow down to it
Idolatry is as the sin of witchcraft. The music plays (notification sounds), and the people bow down.
The practice of sorcery and witchcraft causes much harm to the people.
SORCERY= PHARMACEUTICALS, DRUGS, POISONS, CHEMICALS
Byproducts of technologies=spiritual and physical death
Poisoning the water within, and the water without.
ABBA FATHER GOD did create the simplest of fabrics (H²O, waters) to sustain all forms of life here earth
Have you not seen what happens to the creatures that live in waters that have been poisoned?
@@dalelerette206 That makes sense to me now, surprisingly. Where did you get these ideas, Mattheiu? Jonathan? or ofcourse something else.
Bae
@@dalelerette206
Habakkuk 1
15 They take up all of them
with the angle (a hook), they catch them
in their net, and gather them in
their drag (dragnet): therefore they rejoice
and are glad.
16 Therefore they sacrifice
unto their net, and burn incense
unto their drag (dragnet); because by them
their portion is fat (sumptuous), and their
meat (food,bread,money) plenteous.
17 Shall they therefore empty
their net, and not spare continually
to (without pity continue to) slay
the nations.
False prophets seek profit, and nothing else.
Just creating more garbage, that does not last.
Nor is anything made to last, fore there is no steady
stream of mammon (money). So when they (government,
corporate "tech" giants) say they want to save the planet,
and tax you into poverty...do you believe them? I do not!
Satan tried to convince JESUS to turn a rock into bread,
so he could eat.
He said no.
Ask yourselves, who was convinced to turn rocks into
bread? Minerals are extracted from the earth and turned
into things that do not sustain life. But they sure do make
a lot of bread (money) for someone. Don't be deceived!
Technology shall not save anyone. Those who practice
sorcery and witchcraft seek to usurp GOD's authority
over life and death.
We all die, and then comes the judgement.
Through JESUS name we have access to the throne of GOD almighty.
In the world, but not of it.
Citizenship in heaven
Just passin' through
When we burst into tears…; it’s God overwhelming’s presence touching us because he is extremely close and proud of us.🎉
I'm glad you have brought that to light. I was going to mention it, but I'm so glad that you did. Thank you, friend. Blessings to you and your family. Hope and Believe. ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤😊.
@@tomhahn2633 The Lord’s blessings i pray for you and all that he touched, Amen!
I experienced this profoundly and they called me schizophrenic, locked me in a psych ward until my spirit was crushed, and dosed me on heavy duty anti-psychotics unfortunately. I'm not schizophrenic, my spirit is not crushed, and I no longer take those zombie-inducing meds. Christ is King.
It’s only in our weakness that we can be made strong
Absolutely
None of us are strong at all things. But we are all weak at some things.
I may be strong enough to help others, but for me to do that, there must be weak people for me to help.
And I must not be too proud to ask for help when I'm weak at something.
People who believe they are strong all the time. Their weakness is often an unwillingness to accept any weakness in themselves... they often don't recognise that that is a weakness.
The pride some derive from being strong can leave them unable to admit they could use some help, but especially if it means accepting help from any they may have mocked for being weak. Mocking the weak is unfortunately not rare.
Do say more, please ma’am
can you explain that a little bit more ?
11 Corinthians 12:10. When we become “weak” or surrender we step aside so Christ can reign through us then we become strong for it is no longer I but Him calling the shots. I quit blocking His power when I let go and let God
@@82lucysue thank you ma’am
Anyone who can genuinely reveal their true self on the Internet earns my respect. And, at my advanced age, I've found that it's easy to tell the real ones from the fake ones.
I feel the tearful point Jordan hits here. There comes a point when we experience Jesus Christ in our lives that overthrows all our preconceived notions while at the same time touching our deepest desire. It wrecks you in a wonderful way. There's no one like Jesus, because he is God. All our being is designed to be fully and completely satisfied in Him. We feel so stupid for ever thinking of going to another spring after we have been known by Jesus, but the pain of this life is that we all do. One day there will be no opposition within us or without us, and we will see Christ face to face. It's the most beautiful reality known to mankind. We search the farthest reaches of space looking for signs of life when the One who holds it in his palm is here with us. We are commanded to but look at Jesus Christ as our hope, to believe, even with the faintest most pathetic amount of faith a human can generate, and we will be welcomed into a world no categories can capture.
Accepting Jesus Christ is not terrifying it's life changing for the good. The love and healing he is giving is undescribable. To only one who is resisting is fear and the attachment of worldly things. If Jesus knocks on your door I would say open the door and let him in ❤
Sell all you own.. must to intellect and wisdom. Solomon attests.
Of course it's terrifying. If you don't have faith in Him, then you are asking a person to crossover into letting go of their only whisps of sanity to believe completely in Jesus. And to do that, is to let go of everything in the world.
The fear of God. The point of realization that there is a power greater than any earthy power out there. A power that you will never be able to contend with. We are nothing more than children in His kingdom. Thank God that He loves us and shows us with His mercy. Thank you very much for this informative posting, Dr. Peterson. Very touching, and thank you to Mr. Pageau also. Going to have to dig that conversation out of the archive. Blessings to both of you and your families. Hope and Believe. ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤😊.
humility is the answer
Demons do not understand humility. Do not look to evil people for examples of what Christ requires.
@@SJtheMFZB evil people ?
Humble pie is an acquired taste. It's better to eat small pieces every day than to have to swallow a whole pie.
Yes!!! Humility was the key for me
Leap of Faith is the ultimate act of Humility.
You can do it doc! His grace is sufficient no doubt
An oldie, but heck of a goodie. The callback is often very resounding when we the audience know the foretelling character development in the whole arch of this story, this friendship, this legendary story...
God has no anxiety nor fear nor worry . He owns us in the flesh and in the spirit . Our faith that he has it all under control should supercede our own brand of discernment
He’s not an ideal, He is real. TRUTH manifest
He’s not merely a
Conscience, not a moral mythical God. The narrative and objective did touch 2000 years ago. ❤❤❤
And HE (GOD)does it millions of times a day all over this Earth.
God is not far from anyone. It’s we who are far from him.
No one knows if there is or isn’t a God, including you. It’s a concept, an ideal , an idea of perfection . You’ve been immersed in and are emotionally attached to a particular conception of the concept of God. If you were born in Indonesia or Iran for example you’d be defending the Koran just as ardently . Same if you were born in India, you’d be defending Brahman
How do YOU know "no one knows" ?
I f anything, it seems you are the one attached to a particular conception of world where no one can know God.
Who or what is God? And how do you know who or what is God? Monotheism isn’t the only concept of God . There are other concepts . I imagine the only thing you can come up with is whatever Christian doctrine says bc that’s what youve been immersed in and are emotionally attached to . But again, that’s a conception of the concept of God . Islam doesn’t agree with you nor does Judaism nor Hinduism nor any other religion for that matter and its interpretation of the concept of God. If you claim God is all powerful all knowing and all loving , then you run into a big problem . So explain who or what God is according to you
@@bitofwizdomb7266 Who or what is God? Who or what is it that unites the entire universe? Where does everything emanate from? Where is everything held? What is the source of love and joy? What is the source of pain and suffering? What is good and beautiful?
As you can gather from my questioning, no one but you yourself can discover the truth of these questions as you need to know and experience them first hand, to feel within yourself. Anyone who knows God knows God personally, it is a knowing and not any specific definition or form of knowledge. Feeling is a lot closer than reason, though reason can also lead to knowing. Keep asking the right questions and you are right to be skeptical/critical of any written dogma, find out for yourself, although I'm sure you already know.
"The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom, and the knowledge of the Holy One is insight." Proverbs 9:10
19.... 😶
"the perfect mode of being" is one of my favorite podcasts . The struggle Jordan displays is so real and raw.
Hallelujah.....
Thank you Jordan and Jonathan,
יוי
Christ is Lord. Thank you God for showing Mr Peterson the light.
The beautiful fact that you are brought to tears is evidence that God has you Dr. Peterson. The beautiful Holy Spirit of God brings us all to this place when you have surrendered yourself even when you think you have not fully done so. It will bring you to a place of utter and complete AWE of His grace, beauty and presence in your life. God bless you
🙏🏼✝️🙏🏼
Today if you hear his voice, do not harden your hearts.
Dr. Peterson, I hold a great respect to you as a man who tries to stand up for your views and beliefs, however, every time I hear you talk about Jesus and get in touch with Him, you seem to be so scared, worried and abnoxious and you always say I don't know what to make of that. My dear, you dont need to do anything, but let Him help you grasp it. I am afraid that the consequences of coming face to face with the Christ are what is holding you back from embracing the only Truth in this fallen world. Please, don't let pride between Him and you. Dr. Peterson, humility is the key to see the clear picture rather than a blurry one. God only reveals Himself fully when man is putting a side their ego and surrender to God declaring they are done here. God bless you 🙏❤
Beautifully said. 😊
@@abaker4692
🙏 Thanks 🙏
You are right, thank you for the wise words. Humility would be a big step in the right direction. Let time tell where Mister Peterson chooses to fall 🤔
how Jesus didn't get up and walk away the night before when his friends fell asleep is amazing .. i would have gone off into oblivion
😢
❤…so thankful He did not! 🙏🏽✨
Many times sleep equals death. This part of Christ’s life mirrors when Moses goes up the mountain and the Israelites indulged in revelry. The levites killed 3000 that day.
Because dying was the plan.
@@el7284 when one is being traumatized .. don't think plans enter the picture ..
Your conscience will call you out on your behavior, but not everyone necessarily heeds to their conscience as a mode of operating in the world. We've all encountered legitimate narcissists and sociopaths who gladly dispense with their moral compass for instrumental gain.
I think many politicians don't simply ignore their conscience, they have what JP described, Their conscience pats them on the back no matter how terrible they behave.
My mother was full blown narcissist, and what I came to realize with her, was she was able to change the narrative in her own mind. For example: I was hit by a car when I was eleven years old, my mother wasn't there when it happened, she was at work, and my father I believe was out of town. When she came to the ER, she was terrified that it would some how reflect badly on her, she said a lot of wack stuff, and was ashamed and embarrassed of me, and at some point afterword she told me we were going to forget the whole thing, and me being a dutiful daughter, I did, for 30 years! When I remembered some of the details I asked her about it. Like when she brought me home, and the neighbor (who had witnessed the accident,) came running over to offer to carry me into the house, my mother said to him "Oh, she's too fat!" which wasn't true, but when I saw his reaction to her I internalized it. I asked her if she remembered saying that, and she said "Oh no, they brought you home in the ambulance!" Like in what world did that ever happen?! In her inner world.
But I was with her when she died, and at one point, she was talking to the spirit world for over 13 hours. She was oblivious to anyone else in the room, and then fell into a coma, while in tachycardia (her heart was beating over 200 beats per minute,) that lasted for six days before she finally passed. It was a deeply spiritual experience.
4:22. Dr. Peterson, “…when you make the inner like the outer and the outer like the inner…then you will enter”
Rule One, to the absolute.
I'm so glad DW and JBP are pulling out these amazing moments.
I see that JP re-released this in response to his interview with Mr. Cowboy Hat, who came off so square and simplistic about salvation.
What Jordan Peterson said in the first two minutes was so red hot filled with meaning, an authentic experience in real time/moment! So his words reminded me of something I read by Rudolf Steiner more than twenty years ago, and I don't remember verbatim, but essentially Steiner was talking about the impossibility of the awakened nature of Christ in us surviving more than three years, given the public perception of his ( Jesus* ) time and in principle, the difficulty of the request for this presence and self statement. Perhaps social orders silence the possibility for the soul to experience its own presence truthfully and unforced, yet mature and responsible.
Thanks to Jordan Peterson for the courage!
When manufactured phycology tries to examine GOD and Jesus all we get is fear of truth due to lack of FAITH your a true believer or not there is no gray area in faith.
Leap of Faith is the ultimate act of Humility.
stories, infrmation and time as a way to interact with reality is a really powerful idea.❤
The secret of wisdom is to listen to many opinions. There's wisdom in many counselors. The greatest teaching is in the books of wisdom in the Bible. Job, Psalms, Proverbs and Ecclesiastes.
The transformation of the man... May God bless you, Dr.Peterson, and may Jesus Christ guide you towards the Father, where we will all rest in the end. God bless us all!
Though not exactly the same, it makes me think of Agrippa, “almost thou persuadest me to be a Christian.”
Thanks to Jonathan for being the great listener.
I have an idea about time and duration. I think that the objective rate of time is a lot slower than we percieve. Maybe not slower, but different. Think of each moment in time as a boxcar with no fourth wall. Time is pulling all these boxcars along, passing in front of your vision. Not just our physical vision, but *the amount of data we can consciously process.* Our eyes take in everything inside the boxcar. Our subconscious filters out everything it deems unimportant. We consciously acknowledge, like, 30% of what's in each moment. Like shining a flashlight in a dark room. _So we feel only 30% of time passing._
Come to Juneau Alaska; I am hard to miss.
What’s in Juneau?
Accept the inner mystical truth/goal of all faiths, to be reabsorbed back into Divine Light, after our work is done here:
‘Theologians may quarrel, but the mystics of the world speak the same language.’
- Meister Eckhart
you have arrived.
@@senecasays apparently so have you!:)
‘Now that I have found thee, I know that in the first step I took, I moved away from thee.”
Your conscience is not your own. Your thoughts are not your own. You experience thought the same way you experience reality and your conscience, which is split in two, is the manifestation within yourself of the universal good and bad that controls reality and helps or hinders your path towards the experience youre supposed to have.
Joshua 1:9." Be strong and courageous; do not be frightened and do not be dismayed, for the Lord your God is with you wherever you go." Praying for you Jordan Peterson ❤
How ironic that a superficial understanding of words keeps one from The Word who is beyond words. Pray for the overthinking struggler. 🙏🏼
It is terrifying, Jordan. Daniel 5:27. "Tekel; Thou art weighed in the balances, and art found wanting." Only for the love and mercy of Christ am I not lost for all eternity.
If there's one thing that's convinced me there's more to existence than the observable physical world, it's synchronicity. I've experienced it many times over the years through music, passages of text, and other seemingly non-causal encounters in daily life. Whether it points to a God, or a fundamentally dream-like quality of reality I'm not yet sure.
I like to think this is all part of God's general MO. He loves creating people like Jordan who are superficially failures because WHY DON'T YOU JUST COMMIT ALREADY??? simply so He can use them to bear witness to His Glory in action by slowly cutlivating the deepest good from the intense conflict. If it means Jordan only officially converts when he's old and dying, then thats just more time for God to use that struggle of belief in the public eye for the sake of gaining even more souls.
Mister Jordan,I don' t need any proof of Christ existance.Cause I am a Christian! ❤🙏Eventhough I was baptized since birth,as Orthodox Christian,it was a long journey until I really became Christian.Long and hard journey! But I' m home,now! 😊
I would say it should be a feeling of peace and comfort and not a feeling of fear or terror.
Maybe both somehow we can't imagine
The terror is the doorway in the darkness. The dark place is familiar, known, and measured, but the light is painfully overwhelming, unknown, and impossible to measure. You have an idea of what good things are in the light but you can't see it while you're adapted to the dark. You can't know what's waiting until you go through. So can you muster your courage and set aside doubts to step out and find out if the promised peace is there?
I hope Dr. Peterson can.
Thanks for honoring freedom of speech.
There were many sons of gods in religious mythology before the word Jesus ever existed.
Yes, but they were not THE Son of God.
@@el7284 In their imaginations ... people in ancient times had their own sons of gods to worship.
Just because Christians favor that word Jesus ... doesn't mean that Jesus is real ... and that the other sons of gods were imaginary.
From the book … Sigmund Says: And Other Psychotherapists’ Quotes by Bernard Nisenhotz and Lyle Nisenholz.
“We can keep from a child all knowledge of earlier myths, but we cannot take from him the need for mythology.”
C. G. Jung
@@junevandermark952 because we live alongside a spiritual world.
Countless spirits can manifest themselves in response to people's beliefs.
I come from a more traditional background, and even fetish priests defer specifically to the Abrahamic God.
People's faith in God is not bound by the pages of some book, but by collections of testimonies and encounters with Him.
@@el7284 Jews at one time were polytheists with belief in the existence of many gods. Then one group of Jews decided that if they created the one-god-in-existence dogma ... all people on planet earth would have to pray only to that one Jewish god that favored only Jews as his chosen few. But that plan backfired on them.
The plan by the first Christians that branched off Judaism was to say that a Jew named Jesus was going to materialize on earth in the flesh to tell the absolute truth ... that the Jews had lied ... and that ONLY Christians could be loved by that one god in existence. But the many split groups of Christians couldn't agree about which ones the one god adored as his chosen few ... so they killed each other AND the Jews as being LIARS.
Then the Muslims got into the ACT ... and said that that one god loved only THEM ... not the Jews OR the Christians. And then the Muslims split into multiple groups ... killing each other ... the Jews ... and ... the Christians ... all in the name of that one god in existence.
When men believed in multiple gods ... they could fire old ones and create new ones and there wasn't any NEED to fight over the attention of the gods at all.
Instead of being GREEDY and wanting all the attention of the only god in existence ... had the Jews stayed faithful to polytheism and their beliefs in the existence of many gods ... the words Christianity and Islam ... would not exist ... and neither would all those religious wars have existed.
What a shame that humans are the only animals stupid enough to kill each other over that one ... mythical ... imagined in the minds of men ... word ... GOD.
Everything is frequency, energy even God.
Yep.. and this is all just been proven. We have souls, we are energy.
Matthew 7:7
Ask, Seek, Knock
7 “Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you.
That’s why people who go into addiction programs can call a Chair their Higher Power, as ridiculous as it sounds, and it’s still sufficient to displace themselves from the Higher Power, to remove the possession of the Higher Power within, to put it rightfully without, and be a good First Step towards recovery.
Dream : I WAS AT MY PARENTS HOUSE, IT WAS NIGHT TIME. IN THE BACKYARD OF WHERE THEY LIVE, EVERY HOUSE HAD THIS NEW EXTENDED PART WHERE EVERY NEIGHBOUR AND MY PARENTS INCLUDED COULD BUILD SOMETHING. MOST OF THE PEOPLE BUILT A LARGE SQUAREBLOCK OF ABOUT 4 BY 8 METERS AND IT WAS COVERED IN CERAMIC (IT'S SIMILAR TO GRAVES IN THE COUNTRY WHERE I LIVE). BY THESE BLOCKS THERE RAN A SHALLOW DIRTY RIVER WHERE ME AND OTHER PEOPLE WERE LOOKING INTO, I BELIEVE MY BROTHER WAS WITH ME. WE BEGAN SEARCHING WITHIN THE DIRTY WATER OF THAT SHALLOW RIVER AND FOUND SEVERAL SMALL PIECES OF SQUARE OBJETS, SOME SMALL STATUE AND SOME BROKEN PIECES OF ANCIENT ARTIFACTS (I RECOGNIZED SOME OF THEM TO BE OF SUMERIAN ORIGIN ALSO SHOWN IN ONE OF MY FAVORITE DOCUMENTARIES), THERE WERE GOLD BARS, SILVER BAR AND PYRITE BARS (FOOL’S GOLD). NEAR THE CERAMIC COVERED BLOCKS THERE WAS A DWARF MAN WHOM HAD SET CAMP THERE AND MY NEIGHBOURS TOLD ME WE COULD TALK TO HIM TO APPRAISE THE PIECES WE FOUND. HE HELPED ME FIGURE OUT WHICH WERE GOLD, WHICH WERE PYRITE AND SO ON.
I mourn when I think about it
" Oh, the depth of the riches of the wisdom and knowledge of God!
How unsearchable his judgments,
and his paths beyond tracing out!" Professor Jordan as Paul have felt and seen the real reality of the spiritual world through a keyhole, hopefully as Paul got knocked off his high horse to meet with our Savior, Mr Peterson would find the same grace.
The placebo effect is so powerful that it's easy to believe that the imaginary is real.
Here's an idea: God is the collective unconscious of all Earthlife. As in, the individual living cells within your body all form a gigantic hivemind with a singular consciousness: you. Why not the same pattern at the macro level? Instead of thinking of God as the creator, why not instead think of Him as the sum total of all life's experiences. And as Earthlife grew and multiplied, so did this storehouse of knowledge. And maybe your unconscious mind can tune in on this frequency, consult this knowledge, and know, based on the experience of everyone else, what paths are deadly or fruitful?
Your cells live and die many times over in a lifetime. If you cut off your arm you haven't damaged whatever "you" are in your head. Whatever the thing is that thinks of you as you is somewhere much deeper. I hesitate to use the word soul because it's so common we just throw it around without really considering what it is. A concept so large it's almost paradoxical that it is contained with so small a physical body. We're like walking singularitys.
That wouldn't be God. And it's fraught with problems once one begins to pick it apart.
What you describe here isn’t God. It would be a superconsciousness emerging from a collection of minds, which is not God. That’s just the collective unconscious. Yet, this collective unconscious seems to have a direction to it. (Very terrifying to think about). I believe God steers us through this.
@@Ethan_Frost I like how you so authoritatively insist that's not God, when none of us have any proof of what God IS.
Like, 'I'm sorry, but my conception of something so great we cannot perceive it does not line up with your explanation for how such a being could come into existence, so I am unsatisfied with your response.'
@@AlexReynardor maybe what was said simply doesn't match people's collective experience of God, or even the Biblical one.
It is becoming one with Jesus. More intimate the more you grasp it. He is reality and infallibly safe to trust to unlimited depth. Years ago, though I’d accepted him as a small child, I feared screwing up and feared the cross. Then I heard inside, “Why would it scare you that I love you so much?”
He is more than one could ask, think, or hope for.
Very powerful. Like all of JP's content: more people need to listen to this video.
This the confrontation with the meaning of existence. We are characters in a story made about Him. Essentially, recognition of this truth is akin to breaking the 4th wall.
Jesus Christ really lived, was crucified, and rose from the grave, and still lives on because He is God and He is the Way, the Truth and the Life. Jordan, give your life to Him - submit to the one true God.
It’s so spiritual and terrifying. When I gave my life back to Christ it was after my dog was taken and sentenced to death. I was young and he was my wife and my “First”. I branded my arm deeply with the collar ring he had broken to protect our yard from what he viewed as an intruder because of my young and incorrect ways of teaching him. Anyways, after the branding I struggled to hang the Cross back on the wall. The nail wouldn’t penetrate and the pounding and sparks from the nail seemed like thunder and lightening. A few days later my two buddies and I visited Mt. Rainier for camping. On the way we noticed a triangle shape light pattern above our vehicle and pacing us for many miles. As we approached the camp spot on the secluded eastern side of Mt. Rainier everything became fuzzy. We all have the same memory and memory loss. The next morning we were greeted by the military
God has always taken on the suffering of us all since the old testament because when we transgress, its against his very kingdom thats within us all.
All he's asked for is accountability since genesis. OT and NT is the same story.
He's calling us.
I know the feeling. I don't understand a belief that just came. And then I understood
It's only there to tease you and while those experiences can seem real, they are not
It's the best decision you can make in your life. John 3:16
SPEND, SAVE, GIVE MORE
Do you think we live in a vacuum!?
... YES!))). . . empty of LOVE 😮❤
Creator can exist in many respects both within and outside time space…. And you’re correct we don’t know what to do with time, we’re very bad at time management and what to do or not with time sometimes on this plane of existence.
Reminds me of the story of Alan Wake. The narrative world and the objective world touching.
Mr Peterson, we’re not to be terrified of Our Creator GOD God is Consciousness God is Unconditional Love. God is Light God forgives All and loves All Beings,good bad and in between. He lives within All of US and everything. God is in our DNA strands and if you raise your consciousness, frequencies, the amount of Gods DNA raises and so much more!
We are to have Love in Our Hearts and love unconditionally, do not judge as Jesus/Jeshua was teaching us the way and Gods love for All Beings ❤️
We manifest in the Universe by Our thoughts, words and actions. We reap what we sow based on our own doings! Universal Laws!
Absolutely.
Jordan, you are lost. Give it up. Actually.🎉 When you are ready to accept the life that's the new LIFE, God prepped for you yes Jordan i will still be there. I will be still and be tgere.. also. Hi now.
You can't solve what just wants to be known.
The Hindus were onto something they reckon Christ was an Avatar of God on Earth so basically God was working through Jesus to experience what it was like to be Human his own creation and to free Mankind from the evil of Sin and defeat the Devil.
This is exactly what I believe.
That Jesus was a man and god/source/divine or whatever you want to call it sent him to show us the way. And this is why Jesus encouraged us not to judge each other, forgive each other and love each other.. it's not easy being human.
I think we try to intellectualise everything these days to our detriment.
My belief is the Trinity (Father, son and holy spirit) is The mind, the Heart and the Spirit and we won't be whole until we use all three together.
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I have found some things only enter my consciousness through my spirt… it’s that place in me where only God can enter. Wonderful to the highest degree! ❤
Analyzing itself becomes something else when you keep up at it too seriously and no idea of the space between
👏👏👏🙏Beautiful Jordan💖 you’re loved ✝🌞
ive seen this before and remember it was one of the first podcasts that came out after jordan got sick. this is why i was disappointed that the organizer of the event where JBP and zizek had a convo set the topic for marxism when christianity was really the more profoundly interesting direction those two could go to. as a zizek main myself, listening to peterson give an account of moments of the real and symbolic reach their full potential of engagement in christ i wonder why he often criticizes peterson when this talk is proof that peterson is a german idealist at heart
I love the connection here. Please know we all struggle with the act of consciously knowing Christ as one amoung us, but He must be. Eating and drinking amoung us, makes acceptance of the Holy Life possible. We need only believe, the seed is designed to break the earth in your heart and take root. However, you may have a principle in the way. Each of us a cross of our own, each of us in struggle. Solomon and Job have much to teach. An Ancient Faith Bible helps.
Romans 14:21. Blessed Love Family. I’m having a hard time with the drinking❤
Its like holding out till the cloth is filled with Jesus,
ELIjah, OUR family, Sam Harris, even if it's not our job. Letting them come
by prayer, maybe watch them embrace the saviour. See who comes by and to 3 in one.
Holy Spirit is the unlocked screen door of the cabin. All are welcomed here.
I pray my Xhusband will finally rest in Jesus's arms, in Jesus name. Amen.
The words are Emunah and Trust.
Not close. Right judgement of man. Your corner stone is alcohol judgement. The stone that the builders rejected has become the corner stone of what you do not know exists.
The narrative world is objective. Three different real-life stories woven together into one is just as true as the three separated.
You don’t watch Jordan Peterson without consciously subjecting your conscious to circumspection.
jesus says to keep asking, keep seeking, maybe he will answer
"EVEN NOW." DECLARES THE LORD,
"RETURN TO ME WITH ALL YOUR HEART, WITH FASTING AND WEEPING AND MOURNING."
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REND YOUR HEART AND NOT YOUR GARMENTS.
RETURN TO THE LORD YOUR GOD.
FOR HE IS GRACIOUS AND COMPASSIONATE, SLOW TO ANGER AND ABOUNDING IN LOVE, AND HE RELENTS FROM SENDING CALAMITY.
JoEL 2:12-13
LET NO ONE DESPISE YOUR YOUTH, BUT SET AN EXAMPLE FOR THE BELIEVERS IN SPEECH, IN CONDUCT, IN LOVE, IN FAITH, IN PURITY.
- 1 TIMOTHY 4:12
Accept is just a word
Accept is a start
John 3 :16 ❤
I was not a religous person at all and then I became psychotic and themes all had to deal with Christ and Anti-Christ. I also experienced a synchronicity. There was a narrative all of a sudden.
That book Jordan was recommending might have been: "Visual and Perceptual Concepts: A Philosophical and Empirical Investigation" (1974), "The Structure of Perception" (1980), or "The Philosophy of Perception" (1976) ; Each by Peter Wolff. Hard to find a physical copy though...
Removing time from the equation, the objective and the narrative world are completely in sync.
This is why you reap what you sow.
Jordan needs to keep in mind he's a genius....
God's ways are above our ways tho
Good for you you have a high level of thought
Even the lowest genuine Christian has wisdom above intellectualism tho
THIS CLIP IS 3 YEARS OLD. And you should let people know that up front…versus presenting it as a clip that can be easily misconstrued as a NEW clip. Jordan has a much more complete/biblical view of this conversation these days.
If you dont believe you dont want to believe and therefore you wont accept anything which makes you believe. People saying, that others should make them believe that god exist and there should be a proof else its all a daydream, dont want to believe and therefor nothing you can say will make them believe. But as soon as you believe, you wonder yourself why you havent till now, there is some truth into seing the truth is a gift of god. JP noticing it, accepting it for himself and speak about in public some something which should be applauded
Sometimes you live like time doesn’t even exist!! but you do have to live within time space awareness among other things I mean, it’s kinda important….
Twice in my life, I have fervently bagged depleted and prayed to Jesus once when I was I think 12. And then three or four years ago. I prayed for a sign both times he gave me a mistakable sign.
Thank you, Lord for sending your son Jesus, we believe in him !
I know he was a real person. But my spirituality is greater than what is contained within the four walls of a church.
I believe God is within us. .
Here ‘s 2 examples
John 10 verse 34
Is it not written in your law I have said you are gods?
John 14 verse 20
On that day, you will know that I am in my father and you and me and I in you
Thank you, Dr.Wayne Dyer for including these in your manifest, your destiny audiobook
thank you!
I just in a quantified manner collapse the psychological and biological reality with the spiritual experience and dimensions. I’ve found a way to consolidate it more or less just fine.