Finally it was confirmed by the show….. ADRIEN IS A SENTIMONSTER
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- Опубликовано: 8 фев 2025
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It was confirmed yet again that adrien was a senti!!!
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Okay so something really quick I wanted to say because so many people are misinformed…. ADRIEN IS FULLY 100% HUMAN. Not half human. Him being a senti doesn’t make him any less human then say, you and me!
So the story say that one day Emily was pregnant but then the husband of aemly was so angry that he doesn't deserve because he and Emily renouns his kingdom to be together so aemly and him will be the next king and queen so maby Emily told Gabriel to search a answer to help his sister so then Gabriel told fielx dad that for much studying he found a solution he told hem one day he will protect his son one day in the future and he will give him a magic amulento to give life to his dream and to contorlit but what if when Adiren was born he was born dead so Emily and Gabriel used the miraculous to give him life again but this is only my theory what do you think about it.
Adrien is just a human that was conceived magically. It doesn't change the fact that he's a human, the only difference is the way he was created.
@@thebeginster but what do you know you still don't know if he's or not a sentimonster some time the righters what us to think that so maybe they just want us to think that adrien is a sentedmonster.
Why did you say in your video that Adrian is a senti you clearly saw that the mother of Adrian was pregnant from we all know that a senti mother is created out of box it’s like how you created a statue from wax
@@bigbunny5600 one I don't know how to make my own video and 2 who are you and what is your problem that I think what is my opinion and what if my theory is right.
The people who say he isn't are just in denial. Gabriel rubbing the rings and Adrien just following the order soon after, the fact that Gabriel was able to communicate with Adrien in his mind and the peacock feathers in the flashback are more than enough proof.
Oh 100%!!!! I also feel like most of those people also just don’t wanna admit that they’re wrong😭
@@adrixnette Well, they'll find out eventually. A big wake up call is coming for them. It was obvious since season 3/4.
That and some of them seem to just not understand how sentis work. I've seen multiple people say things like:
1) If Adrien was a senti he couldn't be Cat Noir.
2) Gabriel would be able to see through Adrien's eyes when he's Cat (like Mayura did with Sentibug)
3) Adrien wouldn't be able do anything without a command from the whoever's holding his amok.
4) Shadowmoth/ Mayura/Argos would have been able to sense that Cat Noir's a senti.
5) Adrien wouldn't be able to age.
6) Since sentis are perfect Adrien shouldn't have allergies/ shouldn't be able to get sick.
7) Adrien's been Cataclysmed and didn't go crazy.
So in the end it's a mixture of denial from some and misunderstanding from others.
@@oceancampbell I get that but
1. Got disproven in Optigami with SentNino/SentiCarapace.
2. That may have been from the peacock miraculous rather than the amokized object.
3. Sentimonsters are able to do stuff even without the amok holder controlling them. They act on free will until the amok holder decides to play God. Hawk Moth got amokized in Heroes day but the butterfly senti wasn't following him and the Lollipop Senti can't take orders from a baby.
4. For the most part, the suits probably provide some protection from the sensing.
5. Sentis can age since they are actual living beings. It's not even a case where they are fake or magical constructs. No. they are real. And can age. That's why it was such a big deal when Mayura took out the SentiBug's amok. She just killed her.
@@oceancampbell I feel like the reason why people hates the idea of Adrien being a sentibeing is because they think he's not human. Thomas said that's not the case. He has DNA from his parents, he's got blood, bones and the ability to reproduce and can do all other biological functions. He is just as much of a human as every human in the show. The only difference is how they were created. Adrien is human that was conceived biologically through magical means while the others were conceived biologically through natural means.
I'll bet they're waiting to verbally confirm it until Adrien finds out. That way Adrien's shock will resonate with the audience too, allowing the reveal to have maximum impact.
omg yes!! that would totally make sense!
@@adrixnette 😃omg I feel so validated thanks
What I’m confused about is how in the New York special they said that only humans can see quamis. And don’t know who ladybug and cat noir is. But that was canon. So then how is Adrien able to see plagg and all the quamis? Maybe it was an error in the animation
@@barluepanye3850 they meant that Kwamis can’t be filmed in any way or seen on pictures
That would the best idea to do. And RIP Adrian 💀
The only thing I don't like about Adrien being a sentimonster is the fact that someone could take his life easily. Whether it be someone damaging the rings or the peacock holder removing the amok. I don't worry about the second one that much since Felix is the one in possesion of the miraculous and he obviously won't end his cousin or any senti life in general. The first is very concerning since Gabe gets angry a lot.
Well since the amok is on two objects as long as one ring is intact he'll be ok
@@billykaplan9915 Hmm. True. Same thing like when an object that was broken in pieces needs to be recombined to be deakumatized
that wouldn’t be the problem in season 6 because actually spoiler alert 🚨 at the end of re creation (I’m pretty sure) Gabriel gave Marinette the adrien control rings right before he recreated the universe and then the scenes after he recreated the universe and adrien and marinette had their own kiss scene marinette gave adrien the control rings to free him just like Amelie gave the ring to Felix as wanting to free him. In representation, marinette found out Adrien is a sentimonster. Also something else to mention, the fact that they get the upgrade with the no transformation after power just shows how powerful Lila will be in season 6. Lila would easily take their miraculous if they didn’t have the upgrade because we know how smart Lila is and she’s smarter than Gabriel. It also just shows how powerful cat noir and ladybug are getting. Lila will probably be the last villain that we know of. In season 6, we would also find out more about Lila.
Gabe is such a Karen.
Do u think adrien will die in season 6 or 7 then??
Also in episode Adoration in season 5, when Adrien was about to kiss Marinette, we see that Gabriel appears , the background turns black and Gabriel simply says no to Adrien. Adrien immidiently just walked away from Marinette and stopped doing what made him happy. And during Felix's story, while Felix was playing with his bunny, his father did the exact same thing and that was also enough for Felix to destroy the bunny. I think that Thomas tried to help us with that simple sign. If that and other 100 clues that were shown during the 4th and especially 5th season are not clues that Adrien is indeed a Sentimonster, then i guess i've lost my mind.
That scene in Adoration had me bawling my eyes out in pure laughter because I turn to talk to my brother about the scene and then turn back to be jumpscared by Gabe.
You haven’t lost your mind: I think someone just told me the peacock is a boy or trans; thus, the true father of the children.
This reminds me of that Greek or mythology where the god mated with human ladies and had demigods for children.
I forgot Gabriel literally said that through a window and Adrien felt something off 💀
The one thing that isnt connecting for me personally is Adrien, who is confirmed to be a Sentimonster, also being Chat Noir and being independent and free-willed. Is it because the Miraculous changes him? Idk i honestly wish he wasnt a sentimonster as i feel like its made things a lot more confusing since we dont know everything about their abilities in this universe
One thing though, unless the Subs were incorrect which is totally possible but in the French dub they confirm Adrien's mother was able to conceive a child the usual way. Her sister was unable to. Her sister's husband Colt was jealous of Emilie due to this fact.
Most likely Gabriel and Emilie used the Peacock Miraculous but so far we still don't have confirmation about Adrien yet.
We did get confirmation Felix and Kagami are Sentis but Adrien is still a mystery for now. Even though I'm 99% sure he's a Senti~
Although I do find it strange Shadowmoth or Mayura didn't sense him. Especially Mayura, she sensed an ancient dormant Sentimonster in Feast while it was inactive and was able to make it active. You'd think she would be able to sense Adrien if he was a Senti when he was battling her face to face.
I'm curious to see what happens!
The peacock miraculous doesn't allow you sense senti. It allows you to sense their amok. The reason Natalie sensed Feast was because it had swallowed it's own amok. If Mayura didn't already know that Adrien was a senti and went to to the Agreste mansion she'd be able to tell there was a senti since she'd sense the amok in Gabriel's ring but wouldn't be able to tell who it was.
@@oceancampbell I had to go back and watch that segment and you are right, she does sense the Amok specifically!
I think they said it was conceived in the usual way because Felix and Kagami didn't want to tell Marinette yet, or wanted her to discover that by herself. However I think they deleted it so people weren't confused using that line as proof that Adrien isn't a sentimonster
Wait... So what about kagami they said something about kagami ?
Yeah that's what I thought !!!
I'd like to pose an addition to this. Felix knows that Mari loves Adrien. He was not only supportive, but willing to let Mari live through the blood moon Senti to be with Adrien, until he messed up of course.
He may not know the story, nor does he know the full context, but leaving the vagueness and focusing it on what he does know, himself, also softens the blow of Adrien being a senti too. He doesn't lie, but he doesn't pound Mari with the fact that her lifelong love is a fake human. He's too kind, under the mask.
but they are not fake humans .. astruc affirmed that creating a new life with the peacock miraculous is just the same as using special conceiving methods to get pregnant. he said that sentis have feelings just like humans, the only difference being that they must follow the orders of the ones who have their amok
Exactly!
So is chole🫶🏽
i know i’m in denial but i swear if i let myself believe adrien’s a sentimonster for even a SECOND i will start throwing up and crying LIKE HE CANT BE😭😭 disney you’re so cruel for this
It's not Disney fault actually. All of this story are made by Thomas Astruc himself.
mee 😭
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@lightupsketchers
Actually Adrien is not a sentimonster in miraculous season 5 the third last episode (i don't remember clearly which episode) Felix and kagami recorded to inform marinette something and it was shown that the king and queen gave birth to two princesses one was adriens mom and one was Felix's mom , so adriens mom falls in love with a tailor(Gabriel agreste) and marries him and Felix's mom also falls in love with a rich wealthy man(Felix's dad) and marries him
Adriens mom was pregnant but Felix's mom wasn't able to be pregnant
So adriens dad(the tailor/Gabriel agreste) studied a lot and found out a way)and he gave the peacock miraculous to Felix's dad
And it is shown that Felix was later on hated by his dad and was always called monster and so all he wanted was freedom he was treated like a puppet
So now it's obvious that adrien is a human but Felix is the one who is a sentimonster
@@SASSY_VENOM they both couldn't be pregnant. but one day one of them were, but in the background there was the peacock tail, to simbolize the fact that she used the peacock miraculous. the peacock tail also appear when they show amelie pregnant
It could be really interesting if in season 6 Lila goes after the peacock miraculous in addition to the Ladybug and Cat miraculous instead of the same old fight for the two main miraculous.
1) It would make the senti story line important to the overall storyline instead of just being this thing that's brushed aside and barely ever brought up.
2) It would make sure that Adrien actual has a stake in the overall conflict since Agreste arc is ending this season and he doesn't have a direct connection to Lila since Lila seems to mostly hate Marinette/ Ladybug and only hates Adrien/Cat for being on her side.
3) It could create an interesting Lila vs. Felix story line (I just really want a face off between two of the shows smartest characters)
4) As one of the seven most powerful miraculous the peacock (and Duusu) hasn't gotten that much screen time and I'd really like to learn more about it.
I get it, but I’m still never gonna believe it until someone actually straight up says in the show: You are a sentimonster, Adrien!
Edit: Thanks for over 300 likes!
I agree. The writers could be purposely trying to fool us, and then later show us some other explanation for Adrien as some sort of big reveal. The fact that they're trying to make it so obvious that Adrien is a sentimonster is what's making me skeptical. I don't think they're going to give us the answers so easily. They've got something else in mind, and we're too distracted by the sentimonster thing to see it coming. They may make people upset sometimes with the story decisions they decide to make, but they are still professional writers and they know what they're doing, and they're making each storytelling decision purposefully. I'm curious to know what they have planned.
I hope you guys aknowledge the truth now... (after representation)
Same. Also. This story. Is about felix. Not adrien. Also adrien. Was actually born bc iin Recreation episode. Gabriel told Marinette. That. It was a miracle. In it shows a pic of. Baby. Adrien. And Gabriel and emilie were happy (Gabriel and emilie. Did tit. And. Emilie got pregnant ).
I also agree because i like Adrien
@@iamsammixfr
To all the people who think that Adrien is a Sentimonster:
1. Adrien, as Cat Noir, was cataclysmed in Miraculer. If he was a Sentimonster, he would have spiraled out of control, but was struggling for health.
2. Emilie and Nathalie should have the same time frame of being rendered null. Nathalie used the Peacock Miraculous and died in 6 months before being revived. This means Emilie can’t have lasted long either after using it. Also, Gabriel didn’t even have the Miraculous until after Adrien was born.
3. In the New York special, Uncanny Valley said she can’t see magic, and Adrien was visible as a human like everyone else. If he was a Sentimonster, he would have appeared either in a different color or not at all.
As for Representation (this specific episode), most of you saw it wrong. It only confirms FELIX to be a Sentimonster, not Adrien.
But though it’s obviously hinting Felix is a sentimonster, doesn’t it show Emilie wanting a baby and the doctor (I think?) saying there was a way by using the peacock miraculous? And at the end of season 5 (spoilers) Marinet gives him the two rings and tells him to be who he wants, it was also strongly hinting he was now free.
Edit: I forgot what episode but I’m pretty sure he had the miraculous before Adrian was born, he was trying to go back in time to replace the damaged miraculous with a fixed one. It shows Emilie and Gabriel walking away happily, but I’m not sure because it doesn’t hint that Adrian was born yet or not.
@@cvvsha So I did some research and found out that Gabriel found the Peacock Miraculous after Emilie was pregnant. And he had to study a lot before he could find it to help Colt.
I agree and that’s why Felix looks just like Adrien like twins
@@cheyanne.meshell yeah that’s fair
Emilie hat das miraculous nur einmal benutzt für adrien Nathalie hingegen viel öfter weshalb sie auch so schnell krank geworden ist und in der Geschichte sieht man das beide Schwestern nicht schwanger werden konnten und nachdem Emilie wie durch ein Wunder plötzlich schwanger wurde und das Felix Vater verärgert hat weil er es für ungerecht hielt hat Gabriel ihm das Pfauen miraculous gegeben damit Amelie auch schwanger werden konnte adrien war der erste senti
It’s so cruel to make Adrien a sentimonster 😭 It’s not confirmed in the show yet but I guess he truly is becaus eof the little hints in the entire season. This is breaking my heart 😭
Why?
Same 😭 Poor Adrien, Felix and possibly Kagami too
@@DarkShadow-hy6iq His life depends on a single object. When he finally believe he’s got his freedom, he’ll find out he can be controlled by anyone. He would constantly doubt whether he’s making decisions as himself or as someone else. 😢
@@NightCloudI They just want to live their life their own way. But they can never have that absolute freedom. And they can easily die too 😭
@@purplesharpie they won't do something that deep bc it's a kids show 🧍🏽♂️
The reason this pissed me off and disgusted me so much is that sentimonsters have been portrayed as villains, monsters and puppets throughout season 3-4, and now they are telling us that Adrien/Chat Noir one of the most beloved protagonists in their show falls into the category of those infamous monsters. It’s just unfair and disappointing if not downright disrespectful to the fans, as if this is justifying Gabriel and Colt’s child abuse and child negligence simply because they are not fully human and human law doesn’t apply to them
that's not true. in ladybug they make clear that sentimonster don't want to destroy everything or fight against chat noir and ladybug, but they are obliged by their creator/the one who hold the object where the amok is
@@xrvo3350 I did say “portray”
@@NUSORCAbut it's not what they are...
@@NightCloudI stfu so dramatic 💀
Still didn’t understand i think that adrien is not a full sentimonster cause when he got atalyst he didn’t got mad
I think a good reason why Gabriel didn't tell Colt that Adrien was also born by the Miraculous was so to protect him, since the Peacock miraculous could rid Adrien of his amok, thus killing him.
But if Amilie used the peacock miraculous on herself then why didn't she get sick too?
@@keyairakinslow9598I think Colt used it since he was the one who got sick and died
Sure feel weird about this theory seemingly being part of the canon now. It is a fun theory, but it raises questions to me about how Sentimonsters work and I just dunno if the series is ever going to give us more than it already has.
Felix being a Senti is just a lot more in your face than Adrian, with Adrian there’s a lot more subtle details and parallels shown in Felix’s story…specifically the “No” moment, being nearly identical to Gabriel’s denial of Adrian kissing Marinet
Adrien: I DIDN’T ASK TO GET MADE, FATHER! I didn’t ask to be mentally torn apart and put back together over and over being treated as some…some little monster!
I was a little intrigued when Gabriel tells Colt that he can use the miraculous but he will have to pay a price, and the way he speaks gives the impression that he is not talking about the request he made to Colt in return, but that he maybe knew that the miraculous could cause some problems and wanted Colt to use it, but it also implies that he let Emilie use it herself because he didn't know if it would work so she would take the risk, unlike Colt who at least used the miraculous himself even though he was afraid.
Well yeah Emilie and colt use it and died I'm sure Gabriel knew that
Gabriel knew the miraculous was damaged and would harm the person who uses it but I guess he didn't care about Colt enough to properly earn him. We see in Evolution that he and Emily both agreed together for her to use the miraculous even with the risk of her dying, I guess maybe back then Colt had already used it and they saw that he was still fine so they thought nothing would happen to her either
@@marck0060 after rewatching that part is highly possible he didn't told colt since he thought it was the price for using witchcraft
@@marck0060 I don't think that Gabriel and Emilie knew that there was a risk to using a damaged miraculous prior to her using it because I can't believe Gabriel would have even considered it if he knew.
@@marck0060 that can’t be that because in the episode we can see it’s after Émilie was pregnant Colt has ask to use peacock miraculous for make amelie pregnant and made his deal with Gabriel.
1:40 Thomas: "nothing is a coincidence in the show"
Does that mean the animation errors are canon? 😂
the fact that adrien/chat noir can disappear from existence in a SECOND is just terrifying. like i feel nauseas just thinking about it
i realized that adrien and felix are not sentimonsters but sentimonster is a status and not a species according to the miraculous ladybug wiki and also yes felix and adrien are 100% humans since they were created in their moms stomach with the miraculous which means for a women to get pregnant first comes the ferterlized egg and the egg has the dna of the mother and sentimonsters are not living beings and the peacock miraculous can be used to create human or other creatures in different forms but both can be controlled by the miraculous holder. remember just because the peacock miraculous is used to create humans to doesnt mean that the humans are sentimonsters. so the miraculous was used for good for adrien and felix or just felix but used for evil by nathalie. this is true.
Ok. Big Question: Whether it's Emilie or Amilie getting pregnant, did the peacock miraculous actually get both of them pregnant or was the pregnancy part in the play just a representation of getting a child through the peacock miraculous?
Like were there purple blobs shaped as babies until it became human like in the episode ladybug or were both Felix and Adrien formed in the womb through the peacock miraculous?
Yes it did!!! It may sound very outlandish but you can get yourself or someone pregnant using JUST a miraculous! The miraculous didn’t represent anything other than itself!!
And no, basically what the miraculous created was a fertilized egg. Emilie and Amilies body actually developed the baby just like any other human if that makes sense hahaha!!
@@adrixnetteBasically they are surrogates
There was a previous season that can help this idea, does everyone not remember the wishing episode? Living back to your childhood dreams? For one Adrien had no dream of what he wanted to be, but to be useful to Gabriel. It’s not the fact he never had a life and always having to obey, if anything his wishing identity would’ve been having everyone to see him as a designer like his father, or living off to explore, or even so having to be seen for who he is to be loved. No those weren’t the wishes in that particular episode was there? That’s enough to also say that he’s a sentimonster, unfortunately he wouldn’t have known himself as he is entirely born from Emilie. There were not really commands but having life itself.
One thing to remember is that the miraculous of the peacock brings a being to life from the holder, aka the miraculous holder. Having that miraculous doesn’t have to be a beast sentimonster we see that’s made and be placed to an item to gain control. I have read previously from other channels that sentimonsters don’t have emotions when really that’s not true. It only depends on what they are made for. To have a life, replicated, or created to serve. The time with the Ladybug Sentimonster from Nathalie already evidenced that sentimonsters can be thankful, understanding and bring connection as to being a human themself. That makes Adrien having a likelyhood that he can be a sentimonster, as he is born-or created to be a normal child-with of course the condition of having to still be controlled with the artifact without knowing it will or will not be his own thoughts. It would even make sense that he never knew that he is a sentimonster, since he was born as how a human should. The fact that Felix and adrien look identical because they are born without the fathers genes, coming to a conclusion to why they looked more identical to their mothers, eyes and everything. Having the sisters being twins, that meant the sons looking exact same if they were to dress up as one another. That’s enough evidence that adrien AND Felix being sentimonsters in addition to this video
This whole Sentimonter thing is a really poor concept. For the character of Adrien, it brings absolutely nothing, but only makes him a passive dummy (as if he wasn't one without it). For the theme of a father controlling you all the time and setting up your life, Sentimonster is not needed. As for the argument that it was a good idea to explain his mother's condition, I will say this much, it could have been done in a thousand other ways, for example let him die in a car accident.
I would actually disagree. The whole senti idea gives the writers a way to portray controlling/abusive parents in a way the is still very understood but not extremely traumatizing for the little kids watching the show!!
@@adrixnette except that this theme had been portrayed in other cartoons, and fared much better there. In the animation Fairy Godparents Wiki openly bullies Timmy, Dr. doofensmitz's family is one big pathology and in Avatar the Last Air Bender and The Legend of Korra Amon and Zuko's fathers openly bullies them. All these cases were shown in children's fairy tales, and it still worked. With the rest, before they started this Senti game, Gabriel showed how he has an attitude towards his son.
@@PiotrekDuncan7885honestly I feel like those examples are then too mild. The sentimonster thing is unique and it doesn’t make adrien less human. What makes him human are his experiences, feelings and desires, not the way he was conceived. Gabriel can only control his actions. I also like that he’s in danger without even knowing it at this point.
@@jemappellemerci ok if I understand correctly, it's too gentle to burn your own son, banish him to the default for life and finally try to murder him with a lightning strike. As for the other two examples, that's what Fairy Godparents and Phineas and Ferb were about, animations with a similar age category and if you could show cases of child abuse there, what is the point of Sentimonsterra. As for the Pinocchio theme, I might even accept it if it involved Adrien. The presented thread has already been presented in the context of the character of Felix, who has more personality than Adrien ever did. Seriously, Adrien is not even a secondary character in this series, only a third one, why add a thread that leads nowhere.
@@PiotrekDuncan7885 it sounds like your problem is more with adrien’s character in general than it is with him being a sentimonster. The only show that I agree did do it better was Avatar. In fairly odd parents or phinneas and ferb, the abusers were used primarily for comedic relief. Surely that’s needed too, but Miraculous does take the abuse seriously which is what I like about it. Gabriel sees Adrian more as property than as a human being which I think is a unique quality to this show and imo it’s the only storyline they’re really doing right
That explains a lot why Felix and Adrien look like twins, they are like a copy of their mothers which explains why Adrien looks nothing alike his father, i can't say for Felix as we never seen his father but the fact that both mothers are identical twins and so happen both Felix and Adrian look like their mothers says a lot, studies also confirmed that if one identical twin can't get pregnant, nor can the other...
Im not denying im just asking :
In the video they said that emilie and gabriel were able to concieve a baby the natural way : that being adrien.
How do yall come into conclusion that he is a sentimonster ??
All it says is that she had fallen pregnant it never explicitly says anything about how
@@adrixnette did watch it with the subs or in french ? Cause I speak french and in the french version it explicitly says that she had it the natural way lol
@@NounoursesdrawingThe story is still told from Felix's vantage. There is still a chance he doesn't know the miraculous was used.
Denial is a river in Egypt, Adrien is a senti monster
You're speaking facts
It’s still not confirmed
@@idekanymore1624 ummm 😃 I don’t think we’re watching the same show 😭
Spoilers if you haven’t watched the finale
Adrien when he gets the ring says he feel free because now no once can control him
I feel like Thomas wants to let us in on the fact that Adrien is a senti very slowly because he knows that some people will be shocked. Just my opinion...
I had believed for the longest time, that he wasn’t a sentimonster that I made a whole podcast episode about it 😭! But now he’s a sentimonster & I’m just shocked, cuz I was like “there is no way Adrien is a sentimonster”. I’m mainly freaking out because I didn’t think it was possible!
What crazy is that marnettes still in love with him
One time actually, Adrian said his father’s pancakes tasted bad, and his father was rubbing the ring and it did not help If you guys want to know which episode that happened in just say It in the reply section and I’ll tell you😊
I think this is the story of graham de Vanily twin ring Felix heard multiple times from his mother as stated in episode Felix. He definitely didn't made much changes in the story telling and said ( as some people r saying in French he Emily got pregnant by natural process ) whatever he said that his mother told him in acting form. He then later realized that Adrien is also a senti but didn't laid that much emphasis on it and didn't changed a lot about it but just shown it by a symbolism of peacock. Never told where the amok is or anything. Amelie must be unaware of Adrien being also created the same way, so she never said anything about that said what Felix now said. Also I think Amelie didn't knew Felix being a senti, just thought he is from a magic amulet and not realizing that it's the same that mayura used to create other sentis.
I would agree with everything except for the last part about Amilie. She would have had to know that Felix was a senti, i don’t think there’s a way for her to not know
Guys at the end of the last episode of season 5 while Gabriel was breaking down he said to Marinette that adrien was his and emilies miracle child, and I don’t think he would be lying because he was literally crying and breaking down. If Gabriel could’ve used magic this entire time to create a child then why would he say that adrien is his miracle child? Maybe I’m just in denial lol idk but I’m not believing anything until the thomas astruc confirms it himself
this is honestly what i wanted most because it means adrien can live a long time with marinette who will live for ages as a guardian.
I'm so glad they confirmed it in the show, but senti or not, I will always our sunshine cat boi
Confirmed his human
@@Lak3w00d2lash3rdenial bro you're in denial
Wasn’t it Felix whose a sentimonster? Isn’t that why he took the peacock miraculous so he could be in control of his own life?
y’all felix is the sentimonsters idk why ppl are getting it so mixed up 😭😭
the story starts off by saying that amelie was the oldest that was entrusted with the rings, and emilie was the youngest. they both lived in london until emilie moved to paris and found gabriel the tailor. now amelie was the one who married the lord. none of the 2 sisters were able to have kids until miraculously emile got pregnant with adrian. the 2 sisters parents got mad and therefor, gabriel with the broken peacock miraculous gave it to the lord to use and make a sentimonster. that sentimonster being felix, the lord died shortly after being felix’s dad.
we know that felix tried to get the rings and it makes sense because amilie was looking for felix after he made the trade and when he came back with the rings his mother wanted him to have it, so he could control himself. also her not being shocked about the miraculous means she already knew about it and it’s powers. also marinette even says felix’s name after revealing he was the sentimonster instead of saying adrian’s name
It's so heavily implied that Emilie used the peacock miraculous to get pregnant, what else would she use it for???
Adrien in the wish episode said
“I always wanted to be, what my parents wanted to be!” And if Emile and Gabriel both had the weddings bands (where the amuck is) (idk if I spelled that right) they would both be able to control him.
In "Representation", it is revealed that he is a human-Sentimonster created by his father, Colt Fathom, whose abuse shaped his obsession with freedom and control. Like Adrien Agreste/Cat Noir and Nightmare Adrien, he is voiced by Benjamin Bollen in French and by Bryce Papenbrook in English.
and that felix wants to have the peacock miraculous. because he wants to keep himself safe as he knows that he's a centimonster. and there is some evidence to support this i suppose for starters he wants the ring. and he trades it for the peacock.
The amok was only used on felix so adrien is not a senti monster because the rings were 1 because there parents only expected 1 child but when they amalie and emilie arrived they got it in 2 so when tbe amok went in the graham de vanily rings gabriel had control on adrien and amoks or akuma cant transfer in 2 object unless they are broken so colt had control to *his* son (sentimonster) and then Gabriel had control over *his* son ( who isn't a sentimonstet ) so that is how he has control over adrien as the amok who was meant to control felix also controlled adrien by the other ring and no one said in that episode about adrien *being* a senti monster nor his mother *using* the miraculous to make it as that episode was all about the history of the agrest and the miraculous use and if felix talked about him he would've talked about adrien being a sentimonster as he did talk about him but not the *being* a sentimonster so meaning he isnt a sentimonster
Yeah, I think this theory is correct
not only that but didn’t Gabriel get the miraculous after the pregnace of Emelie?
Hopefully one day adrien will get hold of the rings so he can be free
Yes! Like Felix did!
I swear, if one more person says that Adrian is a senti monster I am going to lose my mind
Also after seeing that Adrian is a scenti marrinette’s eyes widen which tells us she knows he’s a scenti now and wasn’t expecting that she wouldn’t be surprised if emilee just got pregnant that’s what she expected he is 100% a scenti same way that Kaggami’s scenti story wasn’t shared because that’s not his to tell but we also know she’s a scenti because when Felix says “ when you bring a living being into this world you have a responsibility towards them your job is love them, let them know the true meaning of their existence to deprive them of that is monstrous” hitting that he is a scenti then kaggami asks “ are you talking about yourself” basically asking are you a scenti and then Felix says “I’m talking about us” saying we’re both scentis and that means Adrian has to be on too because Adrian can’t go against his father’s will just like how kaggami doesn’t have complete control she has some so more than Adrian but not as much as Felix
When Adrien was akumatized in the episode "Ephemeral" he did not have the glowing Shadowmoth mask around his face, unlike everyone else who was akumatized on the show, more evidence he is a senti.
I don’t think it had anything to do with him being a senti…. The reason the purple mask thing wasn’t there is because shadowmoth was right in front of him. The mask is his way of communicating with the victim so if he’s already there in the room with you there’s no need for it. Not to mention, the fact that he is a senti wouldn’t have any kind of effect on the way he’s akumatized
Nah, thats not it. I remember some seasons ago, hawkmoth attempted to akumatize felix, and felix had the glowing thing around his eyes still, and hes still yet a sentimonster, so bang goes that theory
@@adrixnetteyeah plus Max’s mom didn’t have it cause he couldn’t get in contact
I think they didnt want to tell mari the love of her life is a sentibeing in front of her face, so they used this technique
Good point. It's less shocking if you come to the realization yourself than if someone just throws that information at you
Y'know, the first time I saw the senti!Adrian theory I thought it was a joke or something. When season 4 rolled around though, I jumped on the bandwagon.
And to add to the comfirmation.... amelie and emelie were twins. Youd think that if one of them was unable to have children, neithed would the other, and vise versa.
There's still people in SEASON 5 that DOESN'T ACCEPT the fact that Adrien is a sentimonster, and that makes me very angry, because it's so obvious atleast since season 4, and there's no differences between a sentihuman and a human
Yes! Thank you!
Adrien is no sentimonster. I know there’s no difference. But he wasn’t created using the Peacook Miraculous. Both the sister (Emilie and Amelie) couldn’t have a child. But one day Emilie Was pregnant with Adrien. That’s why Felix’s Father used the Peacook Miraculous.
And that’s why Gabriel says to Felix in the EP: Gabriel Agreste: And now that you know, you also know that I can make you disappear with a snap of my fingers
@@YassinARBSbot got pregnant bro? Didn't you see the pillow in "Amelie" belly?
Both got pregnant, both with the peacock symbol behind, Emili dead and Colt too.
Ephimeral, Gabriel controled him.
Adrien about to kiss Mari and Gabriel was INSIDE THE HOUSE and SAID NO and Adrien couldn't kiss her.
Natalie using the ring to encourage Adrien.
It is so obvioussss, idk how can u be so blind.
@@cheyanne.meshellHow do you explain the NO?
Why do you like the idea of him being a senti so much?
In my personal opinion, there is a 100% chance that Adrien, Felix, and Kagami are all sentimonsters. Here's why:
1. Every time we see Adrien confront his father (whether angry or not), especially when wanting to be with his friends and/or Marinette, Gabriel always says no and twists on his ring when Adrien is persistent. Also Gabriel keeps repeating 'Adrien, I am your farher...', almost as if he's reminding his amok the authority he has over him
2. In Miracular, when Cat Noir is struck with his cataclysm he isn't killed or destroyed like we see happen to Ladybug and Hawk Moth in Cat Blanc. There's two reasons this could be
a. He's the holder of the Cat miraculous and can't be defeated by his own attack/because the cataclysm wasn't a real cataclysm, just a copy
b. Because he's a sentimonster which we've seen don't get destroyed by the cataclysm but instead spiral out of control (we aren't sure how it would really react on a sentimonster person since every other time we've seen it, the sentimonsters are machines)
3. Season 5's emotion clearly shows when Felix has hold of the peacock miraculous and creates red sun that he refers to it as 'my creation...my sister'. The holder of the peacock miraculous never refers to their creation as a sister or brother, instead just a creation of their own devine, so why would Felix specifically say this? As if he is too created from an amok and relates to the red sun
4. Ms. Tsurugi and Gabriel are persistent with getting their children together, calling them 'of the same design'. And also in Emotion when Felix pretends to be Adrien and greets Kagami at the dance, he sees her ring showing she's of the Tsurugi family. Since he already was aware of the powers of the peacock miraculous and possibly of the Tsurugi's, his reaction shows he finds out Kagami is also a senti, like him and Adrien.
5. Adrien is told to never go out with Marinette in season 5 because his father considers her a pest that 'keeps getting in the way'. He's preventing his son from making his own choices on who to fall in love with, and instead wants Adrien and Kagami to be in love.
6. In Representation, Felix and Kagami show Marinette the creation to how the twin sisters Amalie and Emilie started their families when they couldn't have children of their own. Then we see the peacock miraculous, which creates amoks, appear with both families, and then the sisters can finally have a child of their own (not to mention Felix and Adrien literally look like twins). Then during the story we find out Colt, Felix's father, hated him because of what he was. I understand Colt was always cruel, but why would he only refer to Felix as a monster and not also his wife? Colt used the peacock miraculous, and later dies, Emilie uses the peacock miraculous, and later dies, and when Colt died Felix realized he was free. His father had control over him and he now had a chance to be himself.
Those are just some of the many confirmed theories in the show that are seen, and it gets more obvious the longer you watch the show. I've seen it 3 times now, and I can tell you that if you still are in denial of Adrien, Felix, and Kagami all being sentimonsters, your blind just like Kagami's mother. It gets more and more obvious in seasons 4 and 5, and they flat out say they're all connected. And not to mention in the final episode of season 5 when Marinette gives Adrien his father's ring, she's giving him his amok so no one will have to control him anymore.
we all are ignoring a prominent fact that MASTER FU was also once a user of the peacock miraculous, so he could've possibly sensed ADRIEN being a senti.
no that’s not how the miraculous works. just because you’ve used the miraculous once doesn’t mean you can automatically sense every single senti ever. you have to have the actual physical miraculous in that exact moment in order to sense them. alsoooo good thing to note is that they don’t sense the senti themselves. they would sense the amok which are in the item not the actually being. meaning that even if master fu could sense sentis he still wouldn’t have known he was one because Gabriel is the one that has the amok not adrien!
yes yes i get it. the makers actually want us to think either ways, so that we get confused in every single thing they show. its as if "they want to show us what we want to see". anyways, i personally dont think and want ADRIEN to be a sentibeing.@@adrixnette
@@yuvieee6192but he is one
I understand that shows/movies always give hints about what’s happening within the show and this is one of them. However, regardless how many hints there are, until they actually say it then I can’t buy it 100% and the most I could believe it would be 99% at best
Wait! That’s why Gabriel guaranteed that it worked! Also that’s why Emily died because of the broken miraculous and that’s why Felix’s dad died as well!
Honestly i am crying Adrien is such a peaceful ans innocent Sentimonster i saw him as a human.If you see closely,the double wedding rings are connected to Adriens life .Whoever wears the rings can control adrien
S.5 Ep.Oni Chan
Adrien wanted to plan a picnic with marinette and him but Gabriel didnt like the idea.He rubbed the wedding ring and ordered Adrien to not have any relationship with Marinette.He couldnt help but follow orders. Since the wedding rings were split in two,nathalie has the other half.She gave a counterorder to Adrien that he can do whatever he wants when it comes to love when Adrien told her before about what Gabriel ordered him Nathalie looked at the ring.She,thankfully was in control of Adrien.not for long though..
S.3 Ep.Ladybug
You realise theres nothing monsterous about them at all they just couldnt help but follow orders but can make their own they might have what gave them life for example the rings or the keychain but a holder can remove WITH an intention.
S.3 Ep.Felix
When Amelie visited Gabriel with her son,Felix Amelie pleaded for the rings which Gabriel had,protesting that it belonged in her family not the Agreste's but he said no.Why? Well he put the amok in the rings to control Adrien. ofc he wont give them.When Felix stole is for his mom,Amelie said she wanted it so she can give it to him.Felix at that point could control adrien.When Gabriel realised the took the spare ring from emilie which had been safeguarded and im sure Gabriel had planned on putting two rings either for spare or for emilie aswell.I think after that he recovered the rings at some point and entrusts it to nathalie.
S.5 Ep. 24 Confrontation??
I am not sure if Marinette understood that he is a sentimonster but Thomas Astruc gave the intemtion for US to find out.
S.5 Ep.26
Adding onto the last one,marinette stated stuff like you dont need to be like him then put the rings on him and said stuff like, your the only one who can choose what you do in your life.
Conclusion,honestly it makes sense all the way from the start we developed to know the truth but maybe look back at the seasons and take this into mind.Lets hope Adrien and Felix are alright in season 6 xx
Thank you for your time
-MLB FAN
1:40 “nothing is ever a coincidence”
I have always thought Felix was a Sentimonster
But this story he is telling is from his perspective and I think he still doesn’t know everything
In the episode “Cat Blanc” everything and everyone was destroyed and that would have destroyed the rings containing “Adriens Amok” right
Well what if Adrien wasn’t exactly a Sentimonster but somehow was one
If Emily struggled so much to have a baby then when she finally go one she would do anything to keep it safe so what if instead of creating baby Adrien Sentimonster but rather a Sentimonster inside of baby Adrien
This would mean that Adrien would be a human but he would also have a Sentimonster that would be able to control him as well and why he didn’t die in the Cat Blanc timeline
And maybe Kagami has a similar Sentimonster inside of her which allows who ever has her ring to control her
And since Felix/Argos can only sense the Amok and not the Sentimonster he would probably assume Adrien and Kagami were Sentimomsters them selves rather than housing one each in there bodies
Huh, you raise an interesting point. I went back and checked the episode synopsis, and found out that Chat Blanc is the episode before we see Adrien's amok for the first time. In the next episode, titled Felix, we see Gabriel take out the twin rings from where they had been kept all these years and puts one on himself and the other on Emilie. So point being, Gabriel wasn't wearing them when Chat Blanc disintegrated him. Instead, they would've been safe inside the manor.
You have quite the discerning eye to notice that detail! I wouldn't've thought of it myself. Thanks for bringing it up!
@@midoriya-shonen it doesn’t matter if Gabriel was wearing them or not Cat Blanc’s power was strong enough to fracture the frickin moon
I highly doubt that the rings would still be intact
@AshesOfDarkness_666 that means its not destroyed
No, he isn’t a sentimonster for 2 reasons very obvious reasons.
1st. Whenever a sentimonster is cataclysm, it go rabid. Shown in episode when Juelka gets akumutizaed (I don't know how to spell it, but that is irrelevant) with a sentimonster.
Leading me to my hypothesis, Cat noir, or Adrien gets cataclysm in the episode when it’s Marinette’s birthday.
Overall, this should be the only evidence you need, but here’s some more.
2st.
In Feast, Natalie feels a connection with it, including a reaction of shock and pain.(headache) Natalie doesn’t have that with Adrien in the time where she did have the miraculous.
I will clarify some things that people will argue saying that am wrong.
Yes, I acknowledge that Adrien was Cat noir.
I also acknowledge that Natalie could’ve got used to it.
But, she didn’t use that miraculous till later in the show, it showed when and where she received the miraculous.
Plus, in the pin, you said that Adrien is 100 percent human, so is Gabriel, Hawkmoth.
In one of the (1-9) episodes of season five, he was cataclysm as Hawkmoth, in superhero form.
If you say so, honey lmao.
@@adrixnetteYour theory is a lot weaker than his i stand with the dude
@@Idontreallyknow2345ok lets destroy his teory:
1) PEACOCK MIRACULOUS HOLDERS ONLY HAVE CONNECTION WITH THE AMOK NOT THE SENTI
2) ADRIEN DIDN'T GET OUT OF CONTROL BECAUSE HE HAS BEEN MADE TO BE AN HUMAN, AND WITH THAT THE CATACLYSM AFFECTED HIM LIKE IT WOULD AFFECT A HUMAN, REFLEKDOLL WAS MADE TO BE AN MACHINE, WHICH EXPLAINS WHY IT GOT OUT OF CONTROL
Dude 💀
Nathalie felt connection to feast only cause it eat it's amok object. The amok is IN THE SENTI. She knows Adrien is a sentimonster, and knows where his amok is. She gets dizzy spells because of the amok not the sentis themselfs
Will Marinette's behaviour towards Adrien now change that she knows, I wonder? 😮
No ofc not! he’s the exact same person he was before she new he was a senti!! Him being a senti doesn’t mean anything other than, he’s more fragile than us and we was conceived differently than us
@@adrixnette It could still put a strain on their relationship though. Chances are she won't tell him and it'll just end up being yet another secret she has to keep from him. Adrien hates being lied to so it'll probably end up being a replay of season 4 (just with Adrinette instead of Ladynoir). Even worst when he does end up finding out (that's unavoidable) and he'll end up having to deal with not only finding out his whole life's been a lie but that Marinette one of the people he trusts most lied to him about something this important. By then Adrien may end up having trust issue if Monarch's already been defeated so it would just be yet another betrayal. Season 6 is not looking good for Adrinette😬
Some people had pointed out why he’s not. When I watch the episode I didn’t know about this theory, and I thought it was talking about Felix.
Wrong, if he was a senti his body wouldn’t be warm, he also wouldn’t have a beating heart and able to love. He’s also allergic to feathers, therefore he cannot be a senti. He wouldn’t have a immune system either.
But since his mother gave birth to him he would still be half human and half senti so then he would be like a real person
OMG I THOUGHT SO! But Felix is too? Wow! So is adriens father controlling him bc he’s a senti, or does he have the object the holds the amok? Like colt gave Felix the ring where he put the amok?
Yeah that's probably why he couldn't accept ladybug not loving him back and thought that Marinette was "just a friend" maybe If he was completely human he would be more proper with love
@@emelylassiter3523 He is completely human
@@emelylassiter3523 It has less to do with him being a senti and more to do with him being isolated most of his life. As a result he doesn't really understand certain social cues so when Marinette tells him she's not interested in him he just accepts that because he doesn't realize the awkwardness is because she likes him.
Excellent! I did not noticed Marinette reaction. You are probably right about her knowing from that point on that Adrien is most likely a sentimonster.
In the last episode of season 5. Gabriel trusted Marinette with the weddings bands. And said “take good care of Adrien.” So this just confirms the theory
Omg something crazy that I saw when rewatching representation is that during Felix and Kagamis story they very obviously allude to adriens reaction to marinettes love confession. They almost kissed but Adrien saw his dad say no and almost immediately rejected her. Well in their story kagami did the same motion while playing Felix’s father with a no and Felix ripped up his bunny right after, while they simultaneously talk about “if he became fond of anyone who displeased his father, and order from his father was enough to trouble his feelings.” Which is INSANE to me. It’s hard to accept but harder to deny 😭
I am still in between this whole theory because yes, the facts are leaning to that, but what I am going to continue staying in between is because when you do have a sentimonster, can't you see what they're doing? I may be wrong about this, but if it is true wouldn't Gabriel see what Adrien is doing at all times including him saving Paris as Chat Noir? Please explain if this is wrong thank you
YES THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I WAS ABOUT TO SAY, I HOPE SOMEONE CAN EXPLAIN
THANK YOU FOR BEING SMART
@@raniadriouiche6313 lol np
I also remember Gabriel rubbing the ring and telling Adrien to go to his room and stay there, but Adrien ends up leaving and thus disobeying an order. Ehhh idk I'm confused because there is compelling evidence but there is also contradiction. What if it's just a coincidence? The devs LOVE throwing us off and making us believe one thing
I thought it was only Felixwho was a sentimonster 😱
nope!!! Its Kagami, Adrien and Felix!! (there could also be more btw)
@adrixnette I believe kagami is a senti but did we ever get any proof?
@@korra__ I mean just look at how her mother controls her its exactly the same way as Gabriel with Adrien
But also like, if you guys are wrong, the creators just wanted us to fight...
I don’t like the fact that he’s a senti monster, but at least he was born just like any other human. It makes the fact more bearable for me
I agree
same!! I don't want him to be a senti monster. like, he can just never be free from Gabriel..
@@CoolioStuffz yep. I prefer if he’s just a scared depressed kid who desperately needs parent affection since his mother died and so he wants to be close with his father. But unfortunately it looks like he is a senti
@@libandualeh7621 literally. I get that there have been (somewhat) hints indicating that he's a senti, but it feels so random?? and to just think like what if his amok is destroyed? so easily he would be gone
I always thought him messing with the ring was a nervous habit , something he did because he was frustrated. I never connected the dots
3:43 This is actually one of the most convincing answers to that question.
Tbh I find it that all 3 of them being sentis is unpleasing as it retcons what happens in Chat Blanc (and many other episodes), he ring was destroyed he should’ve disappeared. But tbh I have accepted that they are senti…
My guess is that since Emilie still had one of the rings and was underground she may not have been directly affected by the cataclysm so that ring may have still been intact and maybe one ring was enough to keep him alive.
@@oceancampbell yeah possibly
I don't think they retconned anything tbh, they threw hints about Adrien and feathers since season 1
It's not a recton
I just checked, and Chat Blanc was the episode before we saw Gabriel put on Adrien's amok for the first time. So there's nothing to worry about. Both rings were safe inside the Agreste Manor when Chat Blanc killed Gabriel.
I see it coming and I thought I was ready for it. But still when the confirmation finally comes, that Adrien and Felix are a kind of artificial life form that developed from a senti human embryo, this has my miraculous worldview turned upside down
Plot points like this makes me think the show really should have just been an anime like originally planned. They would be able to better explain the darker themes of the show because the show's plot points can get really really dark
There Félix uses a sentimonster to put on a play based on his mother's family that reveals himself to be a sentimonster ending with a plea for Ladybug's help.
Adrien isn’t confirmed yet it was Felix that was confirmed not to mention there are things that disprove he is a senitimoster
just bc it’s not said straight doesn’t make it “not confirmed” And yes there may be things to “disprove it” but that would be true with any theory, even one’s that are true.
@@adrixnetteBut if nothing else is said through the show other than hints, then it’s more likely that it was all just teases.
@@dievicii the cataclysm was used on Adrian and he didn’t go crazy at all. That disproves the theory and all the control Gabriel had over Adrian was just from simple abusive behaviour. We know this because Adrian has shown to disobey his father which a sentimonster wouldn’t do
@@dancingvegeta7126 je suis désolée .. my comment was adressed towards @adrixnette
@@adrixnette but since there was nothing said straight, doesn't make your "theories confirmed" either.. you may be right or wrong .. doesn't matter. But I would love people to be open-minded and stay in an attitude of just a "theory" and not act up like it being "facts" until gettin confirmed in the show please.
It actually makes sense, since Adrien has a plausible appearance but Felix does not. It is ultimately the only theory that explains the identical cousins thing, the broken peacock miraculous and why Emilie is comatose.
Yea but episode 23 was sooo sad😭😭 I cried not this one but 23 but can I get pinned I love ur vids hav u seen episode 23?
I CRIED TOO 😭😭
I already have one of my comments pinned, sorry!!!
I haven’t watched the episode yet, besides the storyboard leak!! But yes the episode was so sad😕 MY ADRINETTE HEART😢
@@adrixnette it's ok but you should still watch the full episode 😭 yea my Adrinette heart has broken😭😭😭
And felix fascination with the peacock miraculous initially and essentially needing it to help himself and adrien “break free” in his own words, perhaps felix knew more than he was telling….
I have a theory that Robustus is the most dangerous villain in the show. Why? Because he is SO SMART, he managed to use Hawk Moth to get what he wanted: bring a human being. And do you know how good he is at controlling all things electric? Very, very good.
Felix doesn't have to know that Adrien is a sentimonster for those facts to come out, and given that Felix was focused on his own story he probably didn't even notice that hint either. Before the play, he created a sentimonster that can tell the truth and that sentimonster would know more of the truth in that story than anyone else present, including Felix.
Adrian has free will like the fake ladybug sent so he might be controlling himself similarly.
ALSO!! I think the amok could be in the rings! For some time Natalie and Gabriel shared rings, and when Gabriel gave Adrien the order to not see Marinette, Natalie said the opposite. And in both cases, Adrien instantly followed the order. Which i think will explain the “counter order” statement! And after Gabriel traded his life, Adrien wore both rings, and he was way happier with Marinette, which might indicate him becoming free, just like when Mayra created the Ladybug Sentimonster, and giving her the chain made her follow her own orders.
Another thing, I think the butterfly miraculous isn’t “gone”. In Timetagger, he says `I was sent by the Hawkmoth of the future, but I never said that the Hawkmoth of the future was you.`
If my Adrien theory is true, it’s good to think that no one can “release him from existence”!
Guys hear me out!
Basically in 'Representation' they show us the play which explains everything to marinette. Now comes the thing, In the play they show us that one of the sisters get PREGNANT, as in a real human child and that the husband of the other sister is jealous and threatens the husband of the sister that got pregnant. The husband of the sister that got pregnant is obviously Gabriel as it is told in the play that he is a tailor and we know that he becomes a very famous fashion designer. So Gabriel offers the peacock's miraculous (we also know that he was the one who found the peacock and butterfly miraculous) to the husband of the other sister, Felix's father. Now we know that Felix's father hated him and used to always treat him badly and it is also shown in the play how the son of the other sister was looked upon as a monster by the father as it was technically not his own (and was only created out of jealousy). Hence to conclude, Adrien is a real person and NOT a sentimonster. Felix definitely is and probably Kagami as well.
Gabriel didnt have the miraculous till after Adrian was born so he is not a sentimonster but Gabriel could have used the pecock miraculous to do something to Adrian to control him
No adrien is a 100% human, but felix is a sentimonster, cuz emilie got pregnant with adrien but her sister's husband got jealous so he wanted a son to so gabriel gave him the peacock miraculous to make felix that's why felix and adrien looks like eachother
OMG ADRIEN IS A SENTIMONSTER!!!!!😮😮😮😮😮
I Just rewatched season 5 episode 24 representation and I saw that the story shoes that Felix is a sentimonster but ADREIN!!!???
I AM SHOCKED😮
I don't think they are Sentimonster. If they are Sentimonster, why at the first time Adrien want go to school Gabriel don't use the ring order him to stay at home?
And when Gabriel find out his son is Cat Noir why he don't use the ring order his son give him the Cat ring?
Too much bug.
But maybe a only thing is confirmed is the Miraculous power could bring disaster and miracle to people at the same time.
This actually ruins the show for me unfortunately.
how?? it doesn’t change anything he’s still a human. Just more fragile!! If anything it’s a good thing he’s a senti lmao
I agree. I feel like the fanbase pressured them into it so much that they were forced to add it. Perhaps, they're right, but at what cost?
With the recent s5 finale, once Marinette gives the rings to Adrian, he says right after 'I feel so free'
Ye read the books
Adrien is not a sentimonster! If you watched the episode clearly, it says that when Emily gave birth, amile's husband got jealous and Gabriel offered him the peacock miraculous to make his own baby which is Felix I think
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Ok yeah, they have to be. The rings have to be tied into this!! Also, in Felix and Kagami’s play, don’t they say that Emilie and Amelie both have magic conceptions too?? Then it would make sense for more people in their aristocratic lineage being Sentimonsters. Kagami also has to be, considering the tie of the two (and a half?) families, and Felix and Kagami saying that they are “the same” in the play.
I was rewatching and it seems true. Adrian never had his own dream of what he wanted to be when he grew up. He just wanted to be what his parents wanted him to be. And no matter the circumstances, no matter how important it is to him he could never manage to defy his father when confronting him. Gabriel gives Adrian a command and he says “yes father”. I was frustrated with him but rewatching it seems like he really can’t help it. Poor Adrian. I’d seen this episode and didn’t even pick up on Adrian being senti at first. But looking back at his behavior I started to wonder why he acted so obediently. It was like Gabriel had complete control. He said to Felix in one episode that he could wipe him out with a snap of his fingers. I didn’t get it at the time. But watching knowing Felix is a senti I suddenly understood what Gabriel meant. The ring Felix stole was so important and then I noticed Gabriel would touch when talking to Adrian. All the fight would go right out of him. I don’t know what made me think it but the thought “it’s because he’s a sentimonster.” came through. Then I thought no! Felix is a senti not Adrian. But the more I thought about it the more it made sense. But I couldn’t remember them revealing it in the show. I just had to look it up. And I found this video. Adrian really is a senti.
I still believe adrien is human cause I hate when people say that he's a sentimonster
But that’s the thing…. Adrien is still fully, 100%, a human. the only thing him being a senti means is that he has an amok and was created differently from you and me.
ok so there's still one more thing that I'm confused about and it's that in the season 4 finale "Risk" we see Felix pretending to be Adrian and of course since Gabriel doesn't have the ring he can't control Adrian (not that it would have worked even if he did have it) BUT when Natalie uses it, Felix obeys. If he mad a promise to Adrian that he would not be going on the trip then why make the effort to confront Gabriel and yet still go when Natalie tells him to, that doesn't make any sense. So in my head when Risk came out I was like "oh so both of they're amoks are in the rings" and this would make sense since Felix stole one of them to gain some control over his life as well as Adrian's, but when Representation came out I got so confused when they showed Felix's amok being in his ring. That still doesn't make any sense.
He faked it. Because he was pretending to be Adrien, needed to pretend to be controlled as well. If he didn’t, they’d know he wasn’t Adrien
@@adrixnetteI don’t think that means anything I remember once around s3 Gabe was controlling Adrian with the ring but then when Felix steals it Gabe gets the other ring and still controls Adrian
About what rings are you ALL talking about actually?? Sorry, kinda confused. I'm guessing those are Gabriel and Emily's wedding rings, the ones he always wore two at once, as like it was a single whole?
@@ЛіліяЧерлінка yes it is those rings
i can't believe i am too stupid for a kid show
When I first saw this episode when it was released, I was very surprised barley anyone was talking about rhe fact it was revealed that Adrien is a sentimonster. But then the few people that did talk about or talks about the thorie I see comments saying like "don't say that when it hasn't been revealed" when it has 😭
But somehow people don't get it.
I feel like some of the people don't want him to be a sentimonster.
But that's how life is, some things happen and gotta accept it. Yes Adrien can easily be controlled and easily destroyed if you destroy the ring or snap him. And maybe not be human but he still a living thing with feelings.
And I think it was a cool dark thing to make.
I think this is the story that Felix heard multiple times from amelie, the story of the graham de Vanily twin rings, which was referred to in the episode Felix. Also ur saying that Felix also doesn't knew about Adrien and him being on the same boat make complete sense. I think that amelie and Felix did knew that there is a magic amulet behind Felix's cause of life but they never knew how it was. They never realized that it's what to referred to as a miraculous that are being used to terrorize the city of Paris. As Felix said he went to the tailor for getting the magic amulet, I don't think so they thought it was lost or something. I believe that amelie never realized that the peacock miraculous used for terrorizing the city of Paris and she just thought it was a completely different thing or something. After may ur a made sentibug, it was Felix to be the one connecting all the dots and realizing that the way he was tied to an object was similar for those too. That's where he realized that his uncle is shadow moth. Or maybe this was not that actually happened but instead he thought the amulet was somewhat similar to the peacock miraculous and and thought that the tailor being Gabriel has no longer possession over it ( stating he said he never realized y his father didn't loved him, colt never informed about it ) and it is with mayura only to somehow realize that Gabriel can shadow moth too when he saw the magic jewels underneath his scarf. I wonder if they even knew Felix was a senti and never thought the amulet can also take his life. Just for Felix to realize that and he got threatened again for his life by Gabriel. Making his believe that everybody is the same, no matter how much good they appear, like Gabriel was different, humble tailor, and got changed and Felix made amelie realize this in emotion.
People are missing the point where Marinette now knows who Monarch is
Not necessarily, I thought the same thing at first but she doesn’t know, at least not for sure. You’ll see when the finale comes out
@@adrixnette I am pretty sure when felix dropped the mask she connected the dots. I mean one of her "normalpower" are connecting the dots for a solution.
If Adrien is a sentimonster, then 1) Gabriel is not his father, 2) Emilie is his creator, not his mother, 3) Chat Blanc has been a sentimonster all these seasons, 4) What will Marinette think when she finds out her love interest is a sentimonster, not a 'real boy', 5) What will Adrien think of himself if he finds out he is a sentimonster? Now, it would explain some things, but it would dehumanizing Adrien.
Perhaps we should call Adrien a 'sentibeing' rather than a sentimonster. I would have liked the story line much more if he was just a guy, not a sentibeing. It kind of rips the love square idea apart.
@@johnsalverda3358 Why would it rip the love square apart?
Would LB allow a sentimonster to hold a miraculous? Would a miraculous (plagg) knowingly allow itself to attached to a sentimonster ? Of course, we now can explain some of Adrien's actions, or lack thereof. Sure, he wants to be like a real boy. Lieutenant Commander Data (Star Trek) also wished to be human. Now we know why Adrien never had a spine. He was, and still is, controlled by a ring.
@@johnsalverda3358 Do you think that was a cop-out because the writers didn't want to give him more spine?
Absolutely it was a cop out to make Adrien a senti. Either the writers wanted to make Adrien different somehow or that was the plan all along. In any case it makes Adrien look unnormal.
But i respect your opinion
Although i think if he was then
In that miraculure episode in season 3
When Sabrina merged cataclysm with the lucky charm and hit him
I'm pretty sure he would be outta-😊control
I understood it as Felix being the Sentimonster