I used to think that this was a fan theory they decided to make canon as the show went on, but all this foreshadowing proves they planned it from the beginning
they plan everything from the begining.. pretty much nothing is a coincidence. for example : in origins when marinette didn't want to be ladybug, she put her earrings in the drawer, so in the London special 9 years laters, they made marinette go to origins and take them out of the drawer. I honestly believe thomas when he said everything in miraculous happens for a reason
@@eneskedi No, he's a Senti. Sentibeings are always whatever they're made to be, just made through magic instead of conventional means. A Senti who's made to be human is human. They've said on Twitter that if Buggette hadn't been released from existence, she could have continued to live and grow up like any other human. (This makes the on-screen murder horrifying in retrospect but ya know.) There's no half about it. He's 100% a Senti, and also 100% a human. Just like the moth creature in the seasons 2 and 3 finales is 100% a Senti and 100% a giant moth. "Sentimonster" is just a term applied because they've typically been seen as magical constructs used for evil, or with Fu's backstory maybe more as temporary servants. And in fairness, even Felix embraces a softer version of that at the end, granting the little projector creature life for a specific purpose and then letting it go, but trying to show it appreciation and respect in that fleeting existence. The value of a life isn't measured by its length. Regardless, though, it seems previous holders have generally not seen Sentis as Real or respected that if they're made to have free will, then they have it. Gabriel and his circle give their kids varying degrees of humanity (and it's not even 100% clear how much Amelie knows versus just supporting anything and everything Felix does without too many questions lol), but even with Tomoe generally wanting to control Kagami through traditional means and let her keep the ring, she's not above yanking the leash. They're called "monsters" because it denotes something lesser and other. Which is why Felix has a whole thing about it ("Don't call them that!" and _"They're_ the monsters!" etc), and why the first time the audience and heroes know we're all looking at a whole human Senti, Ladybug notes, "There's nothing monstrous about her." It's not that something is either a monster or a non-monster. Being less monstrous doesn't make something less of a Senti. They're whatever they were made to be-- Adrien being what his parents wanted him to be-- just created by magically granting emotions life.
ALSO YEAH I LOVE THE FEATHERS THING. Even before they started establish Amok Imagery, just casually setting up A Weird Relationship With Feathers from nearly the very beginning of season 1, and with THE most iconic akumatized villain in the show no less.
@@Rainybasket seriously how the writers even steal this idea from fans 😂 they have been giving us clues since season 1 back in 2015 when this theory didn't even existed lol miraculers really are something else.....
The thing that makes me believe that he is half sentimonster is that when sentimonsters get cataclysm they go insane but when chatnoir gets cataclysmed he is normal
This is a theory: I think the cataclysm works on Adrien since Emilie wished for him to be human. Which is also why it took more of a toll on her whole body
Honestly pretty nice of Tomoe to view her daughter as her daughter and not an object, sure she tries to control her through other means, but i don't think we've once seen her use the amok against her, she always has that free will.
@SlayMiraculous Adrien's amok is in both the wedding rings, Felix's amok is in a different unrelated ring Felix keeps on his finger. Gabriel threatened Felix because he had the peacock miraculous, as shown in 'Ladybug' Mayura could snap Senti Ladybug out of existence even when Ladybug had stolen the amok. Gabriel doesn't have Felix's amok, but since he had the peacock at the time he still had the power to deactivate the amok and kill felix
@@julesgarcia7406 sry to pop your bubble but Astruc already confirmed that it was a recycled prompt. However this was back in season 2 (I think). The fact it shows up in season 5 may be an indicator that he changed his mind. One problem with this theory is that we already have a problem with time looping and I honestly have no idea how and when Milens family could have get a hold of the Mouse Miraculous or even a Kwagatama.
5:35 On the Miraculous Ladybug Wiki, on the Sentimonster page, it was stated that if a sentimonster is under the control of a Butterfly Miraculous wielder and tries to resist akumatization/kamikotization, it will not succeed, as shown in "Ephemeral", when Adrien tried to resist his akumatization, but was thwarted due to Shadow Moth rotating his ring finger.
6:17 Also on the page, it said that Sentimonsters are also highly durable, if not outright indestructible, even with the Cataclysm, the power of the Cat Miraculous capable of feats up to galactic or universal destruction, being unable to outright destroy a Sentimonster. If Cataclysm is used on a Sentimonster, it will cause cracks to appear and spread all over its body. This damaged state can deeply effect the Sentimonster in question, breaking the link between the sentimonster and its Amok holder, causing it to go berserk, like a bee sting on a bull. However, this was not the case when Cat Noir was hit by Cataclysm in "Miraculer", instead he reacted with pain and agony like a regular human Miraculous holder. It could be a result of his miraculous suit protecting him, or his physical nature as a human-sentimonster. It may also be due to the fact that it was done via akumatization and not the real Cat Miraculous.
I think that the reason why Adrien and Kagami look like their creators while felix doesn´t, is because they were 'birthed' and thus have their mothers DNA.
Am I the only one who just realized how the episode croco duel fits into this In that episode it's shown if an object is broken before an Akuma goes into it, the object has to be recombined before breaking it releases the Akuma Since amuks behave really similarly, the same would apply to the twin rings which were once a single ring, making Adrien safe from any accident harm to the rings and allowing control of him to be split
I’m not a miraculous ladybug fan, and I’ve only watched a bit of the early seasons so I clicked this video out of curiosity. WHAT on earth is a sentimonster 😭😭😭😭
A sentimonster is a creature made by the peacock miraculous Basically the user of the miraculous uses an object and a feather. They kind of 'akumatize' the feather and make it land on the object or whatever. Then they can create almost anything they want (there are limits I think) by imagining it and forming it. If you have possession of the object you can control the sentimonster by giving it direct orders. Tho the peacock user can always make the sentimonster disappear without the object because they have the miraculous in their possession and technically have control to make any sentimonster ever created that hasn't been dissolved disappear. And Adrien is a sentimonster or also named sentihuman His origin object are the marriage rings of his parents and since Gabriel has one always he can control his son with direct orders And his mother died because she created Adrien with the broken peacock miraculous so she got this kind of illness that made her die.
The suits can't protect the wearer from cataclism we can see this from gabe's perspective unless the catnoir suit was specifically designed to withstand it
No it say NEARLY invulnerable not completely, he was still very hurt, but he was fine after since ladybug fixed his injuries Gabriel's injuries continued to get worse due to the fact there was no miraculous Ladybug to help him
I remember watching your video on this in 2021! I absolutely love this theory (if we can even call it that anymore) and honestly I believed it the moment I heard of it because we’d seen signs of it from the start.
The reason why uncanny could see and could not detect any interference from adrien was because he was created to be human, if theres any interference she could sense it would be from the ring and she had never looked at it.
thank you for putting all of it together! There were some tiny details I didn't even notice like the statue or all the amoks next to adrien😱❤️ I also heard of one more evidence /foreshadowing since s1 which is Emilies portrait/painting (the yellow one). It's based of a real life portrait from a famous painter which is about a woman who couldn't give birth, implying that Emilie couldn't give birth to Adrien and therefore had to use the peacock miraculous which is c crazy to me😱
I honestly think chloe being a sentimonster would be cool. Aswell as kagami, Felix and Adrien she is also the child of one of the most powerful people in the series. Thats why she always obeys her mother. Though that would mean someone used the peacock miraculous and they should also be dead by now just like emily, Kagami’s dad and Felix’s dad. Chloe’s parents are also were very close to emily and gabriel so he would definetly let them borrow the miraculous like he did to Felix and Kagami’s parents13:38. I dont think She is but i think its a cool idea. Audrey does also wear a ring. Felix, adrien and Kagami’s amoks are all in rings.
Another thing: Thomas said that the first rule of sentimonsters is when their being called "perfect" as it was seen in episodes like Simon(season 1 - where Gabriel and Ladybug were calling Adrien "perfect" when Gabriel introduced ladybug to some portraits showing Adrien), Gabriel Agreste(Season 4 - where Gabriel calls his sentimonster self "perfect" when he first created him) and Kuro Neko(Season 4 - where ladybug also calls adrien "perfect" when he was dressed as a new cat holder) Does this also add up???
Yeah, all of them are too perfect to be natural human beings. I wonder if sentimomsters are a metaphor for rich families creating custom children or something lol
in S5 EP26 re creation when bugnoire is fighting monarch, around 5 min in she says "things would be so easy if u could destroy me with a snap of ur finger" or smt like that. i noticed it when i rewatched recreation!!
Another thing in S1 Gabriel says something along the lines of “Look at my son isn’t he perfect?” to Ladybug. I believe in this is in Simon Says. Was doing a rewatch recently and noticed this
I don’t understand how people can still deny this or call it a theory when it’s literally canon. You did such a good job explaining it all in this video and I genuinely don’t see how people can still be unconvinced after literally seeing all of the evidence here. Also for the people who don’t want Adrien to be a senti, let me explain something about how sentis work: There was a tweet from Thomas a while back that explains that if a sentimonster is created to be a human being, then it’s a human being. It will grow up the same way as humans and have a personality and feelings and a body that functions just like a human does. It’s the same as if someone get’s pregnant by IVF. Their baby isn’t any less of a human than a baby conceived in the traditional way. IVF babies and sentis are humans too, they were just conceived differently. The only other difference of course is that their life is tied to the amok that made them and they can be controlled by whoever has the object with their amok. So, outside of being conceived differently and of not having free will unless they are in possession of their amok object, senimonsters that were made to be human are regular people just like everyone else. I think all the people still in denial need to realize that Adrien is human being, and that him, Felix, and Kagami being sentis makes the story a lot more compelling and adds a lot of layers and possibilities of directions the writers can take. Adrien being a senti makes the story better, and HE STILL IS A HUMAN!!!
Agree If they didn’t go through this plot, the lore wouldn’t be much that interesting. Also, this depiction to a character appealed to me, never seen other shows have this same aspect.
If those “fans” will demand a lot or complain, that’s their own problem at this point. Y’all should just quit watching Miraculous Ladybug if you don’t like the lore.
Thank you! 💗 I think people fear that him being a sentimonster doesn't make him human and more of a ' monster ' hence the name but really he is just like any other person in the show ☺️
When the theory of Adrien being a sentimonster first got out and became popular, I was one of the people who didn't want to believe it. Adrien was too important for the show to just be a sentimonster. But now that we know so much more about how the peacock miraculous works and about the sentimonster rules, it not only makes sense for Adrien to be one, but it also is very cool to see a twist like that. Not many shows have a main character (yes he was neglected many times and what not, but he is still a main character) that is actually something else then they first seem to be (not counting the redeemed villains and anti-heroes)
I loved this theory from the very beginning, I'm so happy the writers decided to make it canon Hopefully, there's more mentions of Adrien's sentimonster status in season 6 and a whole episode where he finds out
I dont think you mentioned how adrien was told to go to his room and to leave marinette with gabriel. He froze in front of the door and wanted to open his door but he was unable. Plagg wondered why he wouldn’t move but he couldn’t disobey. He kept standing there till marinette opened the door
I still can't believe people still say him being a sentimonster was just a random thing they came up with in season 5.... no, there has been hints since the very begining.. SEASON 1 PEOPLE!!!!!
I wanna know if all the parents who used the peacock miraculous and colt and Emily were the only ones to fall victims of it being broken, then how is it that Tomoe Tsurugi didn't fall to using the Miraculous? Was she blind from the start before using the peacock or right afterwards?
There was one you missed. Its subtle, but it's probably my favorite. In season 5 ep 1, when they are using the miraculous of the rabbit, and Monarch is watching the time Emilie was about to use the miraculous of the peacock for the first time. They are looking at each other very lovingly and he asks "Are you ready?" and she says "Yes". He hands her the miraculous and then picks her up bridal style, and carries her to the house. Very reminiscent of two people deciding to start trying for a baby!
Probably the fail safe that younger users have. Monarch is an adult and a user that can use his abilities whenever. However, the price for that is that any damage done towards him is inflicted upon him without nooroo's involvement. He still gets its buffs but not its fail safe protocol. On the other hand, when cat noir was hurt, he had the fail safe still on him, as he couldn't use his abilities freely. So with the buffs that a miraculous user is given, he has plagg as an extra layer. He doesn't get his powers out of the source but through plagg, so no damage can be dealt to him. So that's probably why... Plagg is directly involved while nooroo is more on the sidelines
What I know rn is that Emilie created Adrien with the Peacock miraculous. Now that she and Gabriel are gone, can "whoever the peacock miraculous holder" release Adrien from existence or is he safe..?
I understand why people don't want to belive that he's not a human...but there is NO denying this amount of foreshadowing/hints 😅 even i can't ignore it anymore
Don't you need to transform first to snap sentimonsters out of existence. Plus why does the peafowl miraculous holders always say "i release you from existence"? Like is it a sign of respect or magic words for your powers like miraculous ladybug?
i would like to add that Adrien is INFACT a centimonster . I've always known this,i actually guessed this back during the first season or second , whenever i saw the peacock miraculous. around 6years ago ,it was confirmed he was a centimonster. he was soo perfect i always thought that he was a centimonster and thats how Emily died. also i would like to point that Adrien,a perfect guy is nothing like his alter ego ,catnior. thats like saying batman is nothing like bruce wayne, on surface that might seem true but deep down they're the same. but Adrian even deep down is not same as cat noir
I never agreed that Adrien was a sentimonster. After I watched this video I realised I had missed on so much! I am like 80% sure now that Adrien is a sentimonster
There is a chance that both Chloe and Zoe are also sentimonsters too. The big clue for Chloe being a sentimonster is in season 5 episode 23. After Chloe is taken down as mayor by the resistance and ladybug and chat noir who have become adults is that her father says you are going to live with you mother. And in the car scene there is something very important: Adury: “bourgeois never lose. I am taking control of your life.” Chloe panics and goes to her cell phone she pauses on Sabrina’s contract but then choose Marinette because in the past Marinette was the one who she could reliable bully to feel in control. She tried to bully Marinette by saying Adrain will never be hers. Marinette does this: “ Chloe, it is you who is ridiculous utterly ridiculous. I know Adrain loves me. Nothing you can say will ever change that. Face it you no long have control over me. Good bye Chloe.” Right as the call ends Chloe ends up in the fetal position and you can see her crying. Because she knows her freedom is going to be lost. That means Chloe had a feeling that she wasn’t like the rest. It would also explain her mother’s rejection of her. And I believe her sunglasses are the amok holder
There is no evidence. It's weak even for clues. Also, someone had to use Peacock miraculous and pay for that like Emilie and Colt. Noone is known for that. Not to say that means senti creators know secret identity of Hawk Moth like Tsurugi do.
And in the S5 finale he said that the day adrien was born like how can a sentimonster grow up? I dont believe this theory a sentmonster always listens to its creator and adrien has disobeyed gabriel mant times in star train he didnt tell gabriel he was going to the trip
I can't deny the evidence but I really hope there's another explanation for all this. Adrien being a sentimonster would feel a bit disappointing and make his life that much more miserable. Lost both of his parents, his trauma, lack of emotional support AND being a sentimonster? I don't want to even imagine Adrien's reaction to all of this. And what about Marinette? Does this mean that she's in love with a sentient being? Please note: This is just my opinion, you are free to have your own take on all of this.
@@QueenJenniferTheGreat I don't know for sure. I'm assuming, he won't transform back into a feather. Because the only way to erase a sentimonster's existence is with the peacock miraculous. These are just my thoughts on this.
Marinette knows that he’s a sentimonster in representation. So technically yes. But adrien is sort of a human sentimonster, so they can still fall in love.
The miraculous is it’s own signature, kind of when Gabriel had the alliance minions follow ladybug and chat noirs signatures and when Mary transformed back then they couldn’t detect her , at least that’s how I see it
@@prayas7504 yeah, it was revealed in beast , but miraculous holders have a lot of protections to protect the identity of the holder, I’m guessing that is another one , since it’s only Adrien the one sentimonster, not plagg , plus when it was broken she didn’t keep it on much, only on occasions , when she was home she had it in like a drawer, and when monarch had it he never fought chat directly much or chase Adrien when he left to de transform, he probably feels Adrien near all the time because he has his ring , another reason I believe it’s the suits, in ephemeral, Adrien was de transformed when his dad akumatized him, but when he is transformed and hawkmoth tells him to give his miraculous he never does
@@angelsebastian7715 i think u had a valid points, But I have a confusion if adrien is actually sentimontser ur all points are right but , in the episode representation clearly mentioned felix and kagami is sentimonster not adrien , Maybe Adrien died in emily's womb and a amok just alive him and thus so he is human and probably a sentimoster too??
@@prayas7504 that story doesn’t mean anything , felixs dad and adriens mom died at the same time, maybe Adrien was made a fetus that grew in the womb, and Felix was just a copy of him when he was born? But still no Adrien is full sentimonster, he had no dream of his own in wishmaker, Gabriel doesn’t really love him , he sees him as something he can control fully, always refers to him as perfect when talking with ladybug,he doesn’t care if he is happy, plus he never worried if when he went in the past to give the flash drive, Adrian wouldn’t be born then, because he knew he was a sentimonster , there is just no proof of Adrien being human ,if he really loved marinette, he would have fought in ephemeral, but just a repeat from his dad had him in submission
for the people that are in denial because of the weird fans abt this.. adrien is very much a senti monster but hes just as human at the same time given his experience as a being. he was just made different but hes very much still very human as a senti monster. because thats how a senti should be living as it was made.
After seeing this video why do I feel like even chole is a senti monster as her father and adrien father are friends (but she is like her mother and both he parents are alive) it is also confirmed that zoe is her step sister so Andre busva(style queen) is chole stepmother so it means chole real mother use the peacock miraculous when it was broken (so she also died with the illness as others) what do u think about it can be possible because it might be that she is like her stepmother because she(her stepmother) has the object that contain the amak but does not use it What do you think?????
I don't think human centicreatures look like their *creators*, I think they look like their *mothers*. Notice that Kagami's father is also not around, implying that he, too, died from using the peacock miraculous.
While I do think Kagami is a senti I am certain the amok isn't in her ring because the ring was akumatized and therefore broken on many occasions and yet never did we see her disappear or any trace of an amok
It literally says is season 5 that Felix is the sente monster from his father’s envy of them having a child and Adrien disobeying him by inviting Marinette
I used to think that this was a fan theory they decided to make canon as the show went on, but all this foreshadowing proves they planned it from the beginning
they plan everything from the begining.. pretty much nothing is a coincidence. for example : in origins when marinette didn't want to be ladybug, she put her earrings in the drawer, so in the London special 9 years laters, they made marinette go to origins and take them out of the drawer. I honestly believe thomas when he said everything in miraculous happens for a reason
@@ItsJae_37Yes, that's why tikki knew from the beginning Marinette would be a great superhero
@@abacaxi-1234-g6e its also the reason the miraculous are moved slightly when she goes to take them out of the drawer
Not to mention he is CASUALLY allergic to feathers
Then he is sentihuman, half senti monster thing and half human
@@eneskedi No, he's a Senti. Sentibeings are always whatever they're made to be, just made through magic instead of conventional means. A Senti who's made to be human is human. They've said on Twitter that if Buggette hadn't been released from existence, she could have continued to live and grow up like any other human. (This makes the on-screen murder horrifying in retrospect but ya know.) There's no half about it. He's 100% a Senti, and also 100% a human. Just like the moth creature in the seasons 2 and 3 finales is 100% a Senti and 100% a giant moth.
"Sentimonster" is just a term applied because they've typically been seen as magical constructs used for evil, or with Fu's backstory maybe more as temporary servants. And in fairness, even Felix embraces a softer version of that at the end, granting the little projector creature life for a specific purpose and then letting it go, but trying to show it appreciation and respect in that fleeting existence. The value of a life isn't measured by its length. Regardless, though, it seems previous holders have generally not seen Sentis as Real or respected that if they're made to have free will, then they have it. Gabriel and his circle give their kids varying degrees of humanity (and it's not even 100% clear how much Amelie knows versus just supporting anything and everything Felix does without too many questions lol), but even with Tomoe generally wanting to control Kagami through traditional means and let her keep the ring, she's not above yanking the leash. They're called "monsters" because it denotes something lesser and other.
Which is why Felix has a whole thing about it ("Don't call them that!" and _"They're_ the monsters!" etc), and why the first time the audience and heroes know we're all looking at a whole human Senti, Ladybug notes, "There's nothing monstrous about her." It's not that something is either a monster or a non-monster. Being less monstrous doesn't make something less of a Senti. They're whatever they were made to be-- Adrien being what his parents wanted him to be-- just created by magically granting emotions life.
ALSO YEAH I LOVE THE FEATHERS THING. Even before they started establish Amok Imagery, just casually setting up A Weird Relationship With Feathers from nearly the very beginning of season 1, and with THE most iconic akumatized villain in the show no less.
It’s literally not even a theory anymore, it’s canon. Everything confirms it 👏🙂↕️
Fans are accusing the writers of stealing the theory
@@Rainybasket seriously how the writers even steal this idea from fans 😂 they have been giving us clues since season 1 back in 2015 when this theory didn't even existed lol miraculers really are something else.....
@@Sirina107 I don’t know
They still haven’t said he is one outright
The thing that makes me believe that he is half sentimonster is that when sentimonsters get cataclysm they go insane but when chatnoir gets cataclysmed he is normal
This is a theory: I think the cataclysm works on Adrien since Emilie wished for him to be human. Which is also why it took more of a toll on her whole body
Yesss, that's so smart!!
Anyone who still doubts this theory is literally blinder than Adrien and tamoe combined
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It's not really a theory since it's basically confirmed
They're delusional at this point
Agree
Better not to argue at them
Real... even though it's sad 😅❤
Honestly pretty nice of Tomoe to view her daughter as her daughter and not an object, sure she tries to control her through other means, but i don't think we've once seen her use the amok against her, she always has that free will.
Yeah
Because Kagami father was The one who use Peacock 🦚 Miraculous
Propably
Maya: so, Adrien might be a sentimonster! Me: NO, ADRIEN IS A SENTIMONSTER!!
I’ve been saying he’s been one for years but I still get angry comments about there being NO EVIDENCE so I’m like ok…. What’s all this then? 🤨😂
@SlayMiraculousWedding rings
@SlayMiraculous Adrien's amok is in both the wedding rings, Felix's amok is in a different unrelated ring Felix keeps on his finger.
Gabriel threatened Felix because he had the peacock miraculous, as shown in 'Ladybug' Mayura could snap Senti Ladybug out of existence even when Ladybug had stolen the amok. Gabriel doesn't have Felix's amok, but since he had the peacock at the time he still had the power to deactivate the amok and kill felix
@@TheMayaBShowyeah, I never realized you've been saying that for years
I NEVER even noticed that statue omg
8:28 „Nothing is a coincidence in Miraculous“
Milene chilling with a Kwagatama for the rest of time 🙃
It could be a family heirloom. So that could mean that one of her ancestors used a miraculous. I kinda hope that that's true
@@julesgarcia7406 sry to pop your bubble but Astruc already confirmed that it was a recycled prompt.
However this was back in season 2 (I think). The fact it shows up in season 5 may be an indicator that he changed his mind.
One problem with this theory is that we already have a problem with time looping and I honestly have no idea how and when Milens family could have get a hold of the Mouse Miraculous or even a Kwagatama.
5:35 On the Miraculous Ladybug Wiki, on the Sentimonster page, it was stated that if a sentimonster is under the control of a Butterfly Miraculous wielder and tries to resist akumatization/kamikotization, it will not succeed, as shown in "Ephemeral", when Adrien tried to resist his akumatization, but was thwarted due to Shadow Moth rotating his ring finger.
6:17 Also on the page, it said that Sentimonsters are also highly durable, if not outright indestructible, even with the Cataclysm, the power of the Cat Miraculous capable of feats up to galactic or universal destruction, being unable to outright destroy a Sentimonster. If Cataclysm is used on a Sentimonster, it will cause cracks to appear and spread all over its body. This damaged state can deeply effect the Sentimonster in question, breaking the link between the sentimonster and its Amok holder, causing it to go berserk, like a bee sting on a bull. However, this was not the case when Cat Noir was hit by Cataclysm in "Miraculer", instead he reacted with pain and agony like a regular human Miraculous holder. It could be a result of his miraculous suit protecting him, or his physical nature as a human-sentimonster. It may also be due to the fact that it was done via akumatization and not the real Cat Miraculous.
another one was when mayura made the senti ladybug and when she snapped her put of existence chat noir said noo and seemed really upset about it
Another great analysis from you Maya! I still don't understand why people still doubt that Adrien is a sentimonster
I doupt it until Episode 24 where it got officially confirmed
but only because i really hated the theory and I still don't like it that it's canon
Thank you! 💗🥹
I think that the reason why Adrien and Kagami look like their creators while felix doesn´t, is because they were 'birthed' and thus have their mothers DNA.
Am I the only one who just realized how the episode croco duel fits into this
In that episode it's shown if an object is broken before an Akuma goes into it, the object has to be recombined before breaking it releases the Akuma
Since amuks behave really similarly, the same would apply to the twin rings which were once a single ring, making Adrien safe from any accident harm to the rings and allowing control of him to be split
Ohhhh!!!!! That’s might en what going on. I salute you lol🫡
This was really nice. Thank you for taking the time, it's so inspiring when foreshadowing finally pays off
Thank you so much! 💖
So that can explain why adrien never had a free will of his own against his father in the seasons leading up to the 5th one
I’m not a miraculous ladybug fan, and I’ve only watched a bit of the early seasons so I clicked this video out of curiosity. WHAT on earth is a sentimonster 😭😭😭😭
A sentimonster is a creature made by the peacock miraculous
Basically the user of the miraculous uses an object and a feather.
They kind of 'akumatize' the feather and make it land on the object or whatever.
Then they can create almost anything they want (there are limits I think) by imagining it and forming it.
If you have possession of the object you can control the sentimonster by giving it direct orders.
Tho the peacock user can always make the sentimonster disappear without the object because they have the miraculous in their possession and technically have control to make any sentimonster ever created that hasn't been dissolved disappear.
And Adrien is a sentimonster or also named sentihuman
His origin object are the marriage rings of his parents and since Gabriel has one always he can control his son with direct orders
And his mother died because she created Adrien with the broken peacock miraculous so she got this kind of illness that made her die.
@@JewasminJahanRumedon’t you mean…… amukatize???
@jeremiahscott2032 yeah- i haven't been in the fandom for quite a while so I could have misspelled some stuff
@@JewasminJahanRume I’m just teasing lol. I don’t even remember how to spell it🤣
@jeremiahscott2032 tbh I remember the akuma the butterfly-
The suits can't protect the wearer from cataclism we can see this from gabe's perspective unless the catnoir suit was specifically designed to withstand it
No it say NEARLY invulnerable not completely, he was still very hurt, but he was fine after since ladybug fixed his injuries Gabriel's injuries continued to get worse due to the fact there was no miraculous Ladybug to help him
Good point. But wouldn't miraculous ladybug fix him?
@@lovingcutypie8405Yes, but Gabriel got away with the lucky charm making ladybug unable to reverse the damage
Rightttttt I had fully forgotten about that part
I remember saying this back in 2021 and i got so heavily CRITICISED in the miraclous fandom 😭cute vid xx
I remember watching your video on this in 2021! I absolutely love this theory (if we can even call it that anymore) and honestly I believed it the moment I heard of it because we’d seen signs of it from the start.
The reason why uncanny could see and could not detect any interference from adrien was because he was created to be human, if theres any interference she could sense it would be from the ring and she had never looked at it.
thank you for putting all of it together! There were some tiny details I didn't even notice like the statue or all the amoks next to adrien😱❤️
I also heard of one more evidence /foreshadowing since s1 which is Emilies portrait/painting (the yellow one). It's based of a real life portrait from a famous painter which is about a woman who couldn't give birth, implying that Emilie couldn't give birth to Adrien and therefore had to use the peacock miraculous which is c
crazy to me😱
I honestly think chloe being a sentimonster would be cool. Aswell as kagami, Felix and Adrien she is also the child of one of the most powerful people in the series. Thats why she always obeys her mother. Though that would mean someone used the peacock miraculous and they should also be dead by now just like emily, Kagami’s dad and Felix’s dad. Chloe’s parents are also were very close to emily and gabriel so he would definetly let them borrow the miraculous like he did to Felix and Kagami’s parents13:38. I dont think She is but i think its a cool idea. Audrey does also wear a ring. Felix, adrien and Kagami’s amoks are all in rings.
Another thing: Thomas said that the first rule of sentimonsters is when their being called "perfect" as it was seen in episodes like Simon(season 1 - where Gabriel and Ladybug were calling Adrien "perfect" when Gabriel introduced ladybug to some portraits showing Adrien), Gabriel Agreste(Season 4 - where Gabriel calls his sentimonster self "perfect" when he first created him) and Kuro Neko(Season 4 - where ladybug also calls adrien "perfect" when he was dressed as a new cat holder)
Does this also add up???
Also Kagami calls Adrien perfect in 402 Lies
Yeah, all of them are too perfect to be natural human beings. I wonder if sentimomsters are a metaphor for rich families creating custom children or something lol
@@PDD555
Possibly be
BEING THIS EARLY FEELS LIKE A CRIME
Ikr❤😂
When Gabriel had the ring 💍 Adrian listened 👂🏻 to him but when Gabriel didn't have the ring, Adrian didn't listen.
@@Cat5988 good point 😶😦
in S5 EP26 re creation when bugnoire is fighting monarch, around 5 min in she says "things would be so easy if u could destroy me with a snap of ur finger" or smt like that. i noticed it when i rewatched recreation!!
NAH THIS IS CRAZY! You have the best theories.
Another thing in S1 Gabriel says something along the lines of “Look at my son isn’t he perfect?” to Ladybug. I believe in this is in Simon Says. Was doing a rewatch recently and noticed this
I don’t understand how people can still deny this or call it a theory when it’s literally canon. You did such a good job explaining it all in this video and I genuinely don’t see how people can still be unconvinced after literally seeing all of the evidence here.
Also for the people who don’t want Adrien to be a senti, let me explain something about how sentis work:
There was a tweet from Thomas a while back that explains that if a sentimonster is created to be a human being, then it’s a human being. It will grow up the same way as humans and have a personality and feelings and a body that functions just like a human does. It’s the same as if someone get’s pregnant by IVF. Their baby isn’t any less of a human than a baby conceived in the traditional way. IVF babies and sentis are humans too, they were just conceived differently.
The only other difference of course is that their life is tied to the amok that made them and they can be controlled by whoever has the object with their amok. So, outside of being conceived differently and of not having free will unless they are in possession of their amok object, senimonsters that were made to be human are regular people just like everyone else.
I think all the people still in denial need to realize that Adrien is human being, and that him, Felix, and Kagami being sentis makes the story a lot more compelling and adds a lot of layers and possibilities of directions the writers can take. Adrien being a senti makes the story better, and HE STILL IS A HUMAN!!!
Agree
If they didn’t go through this plot, the lore wouldn’t be much that interesting. Also, this depiction to a character appealed to me, never seen other shows have this same aspect.
If those “fans” will demand a lot or complain, that’s their own problem at this point.
Y’all should just quit watching Miraculous Ladybug if you don’t like the lore.
Thank you! 💗 I think people fear that him being a sentimonster doesn't make him human and more of a ' monster ' hence the name but really he is just like any other person in the show ☺️
2:59 I didn't even see that. Damn, you're good.
It's canon as of the S5 finale and I love it. Like. The slideshow. Such a good way to do it.
Gabriel: Adrian NO!!!!🗣🔥
When the theory of Adrien being a sentimonster first got out and became popular, I was one of the people who didn't want to believe it. Adrien was too important for the show to just be a sentimonster. But now that we know so much more about how the peacock miraculous works and about the sentimonster rules, it not only makes sense for Adrien to be one, but it also is very cool to see a twist like that. Not many shows have a main character (yes he was neglected many times and what not, but he is still a main character) that is actually something else then they first seem to be (not counting the redeemed villains and anti-heroes)
i refuse to believe this man 😭
My theory : Adrien and felix look the same cuz felix's dad had Adrien's picture in his mind while creating felix.... 🤔🤔🤔
Ooo that would make sense! It probably also has to do with the fact that Amelie, Emilies twin had him :)
Kids from a Twins in most cases look a like
This topic shouldn’t even be controversial- It is canon- they confirmed it in show 😭
I think now its not so much but if you to my older videos discussing this topic I had a LOT of threats 😀😵💫
By the way i should mention that the reason why there is a amok in the season 5 into its because its an animation mistake from the season 4 opening
I loved this theory from the very beginning, I'm so happy the writers decided to make it canon
Hopefully, there's more mentions of Adrien's sentimonster status in season 6 and a whole episode where he finds out
The only thing that confuses me is... If Adrien was a sentimonster, wouldn't Plagg know? Not a criticism, just a question
This was sooo well researched and thought out! I loved it so much!!! 💗🥹✨
Thank you Hannah!!!! 🥹 This video took me a year plus just in terms of getting all the info 😅
omggg you explained without leaving any crumbs!!!
NOW I REALLY KNOW THE DIFFERENCEE
Ig you missed the part in Evolution, where Gabriel actually handed the Peacock Miraculous to Emilie.
I noticed when I was making my thumbnail I didn’t mention it but technically it just one again shows that Emilie used the miraculous 😅
Love your video and woah i didn’t notice that much evidence in season 1 and 2
Mega leech is the first time we see him twist the ring i think which we if course see several times after
Adrian is a sentimonster and thats final
I dont think you mentioned how adrien was told to go to his room and to leave marinette with gabriel. He froze in front of the door and wanted to open his door but he was unable. Plagg wondered why he wouldn’t move but he couldn’t disobey. He kept standing there till marinette opened the door
I still can't believe people still say him being a sentimonster was just a random thing they came up with in season 5.... no, there has been hints since the very begining.. SEASON 1 PEOPLE!!!!!
I wanna know if all the parents who used the peacock miraculous and colt and Emily were the only ones to fall victims of it being broken, then how is it that Tomoe Tsurugi didn't fall to using the Miraculous?
Was she blind from the start before using the peacock or right afterwards?
Maybe she was the one that broke it in the first place
There was one you missed. Its subtle, but it's probably my favorite. In season 5 ep 1, when they are using the miraculous of the rabbit, and Monarch is watching the time Emilie was about to use the miraculous of the peacock for the first time. They are looking at each other very lovingly and he asks "Are you ready?" and she says "Yes". He hands her the miraculous and then picks her up bridal style, and carries her to the house. Very reminiscent of two people deciding to start trying for a baby!
Season 5 confirmed that Adrian is a sentimonster in the episode Representation.
We can't call it a theory anymore if it's cannon.
In Representation during the story behind both Emilie and Amilie Peacock 🦚 feathers
What if Lila's the evil sentimonster from miraculous space of sickness because of her disguises
Years back I just predicted it by seeing your videos
But evidence from s4 & 5 made it approve 😅 ( thanks for 5.24 ep representation)
6:11 Thomas did say almost invulnerable
I'm still confused how plag also felt pain when cat noir got cataclysmed and not nooroo when Monarch got cataclysmed
Probably the fail safe that younger users have. Monarch is an adult and a user that can use his abilities whenever. However, the price for that is that any damage done towards him is inflicted upon him without nooroo's involvement. He still gets its buffs but not its fail safe protocol. On the other hand, when cat noir was hurt, he had the fail safe still on him, as he couldn't use his abilities freely. So with the buffs that a miraculous user is given, he has plagg as an extra layer. He doesn't get his powers out of the source but through plagg, so no damage can be dealt to him.
So that's probably why...
Plagg is directly involved while nooroo is more on the sidelines
@@ΔημητρηςΑντωνιου-μ2λcould it also be because adrien is close to plag and gabriel isn’t close to nooroo?
I think some people didn't understand that scene in s5 e24💀
Less then a minute ❤❤ love u maya
OMG NOW ALL THIS MAKES SENSE... it's more than confirmed 💀 thank you for you service!!
I feel so bad for Chloe 😭
Now I feel like chole is also a sentimoster as her father and gebriel are friends
@@Siwoo_creationwhile that could be true, chloe still has both her parents alive whereas felix, kagami and adrien all have one dead parent
@@tracimoyer9879 if you remember I think that chole has a step mother not a real mother what do you think
Sadly im homeschooled so i relate to adrien in a way....😅
What I know rn is that Emilie created Adrien with the Peacock miraculous. Now that she and Gabriel are gone, can "whoever the peacock miraculous holder" release Adrien from existence or is he safe..?
Felix is the holder now, so unless he loses it I think it's safe to assume that Adrien is safe. For now.
"for now" 😭
@@Kadel___so wait feilx is also sentimonster but he has the peacock miraculous so he is 100% safe for now
I know its basically confirmed but i really hate that writing chose so i will continue to ignore it till it becomes relevant to the plot again
I understand why people don't want to belive that he's not a human...but there is NO denying this amount of foreshadowing/hints 😅 even i can't ignore it anymore
NowAdrian have a twin rings what if his snap his fingers? Would that make him disappear?
Don't you need to transform first to snap sentimonsters out of existence. Plus why does the peafowl miraculous holders always say "i release you from existence"? Like is it a sign of respect or magic words for your powers like miraculous ladybug?
You need peacock miraculous to do that
@@grakuynosc7270 ok
Thomas astruc making lore like this be like :🗣🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Bruh I just wanna see the faces of those whose didn't believe us
i would like to add that Adrien is INFACT a centimonster . I've always known this,i actually guessed this back during the first season or second , whenever i saw the peacock miraculous. around 6years ago ,it was confirmed he was a centimonster. he was soo perfect i always thought that he was a centimonster and thats how Emily died. also i would like to point that Adrien,a perfect guy is nothing like his alter ego ,catnior. thats like saying batman is nothing like bruce wayne, on surface that might seem true but deep down they're the same. but Adrian even deep down is not same as cat noir
Senti
Cat noir 😊l
is s6 really sets next year 😭?! I thought the first EP will come out on 25?!
I never agreed that Adrien was a sentimonster. After I watched this video I realised I had missed on so much! I am like 80% sure now that Adrien is a sentimonster
There is a chance that both Chloe and Zoe are also sentimonsters too. The big clue for Chloe being a sentimonster is in season 5 episode 23. After Chloe is taken down as mayor by the resistance and ladybug and chat noir who have become adults is that her father says you are going to live with you mother.
And in the car scene there is something very important:
Adury: “bourgeois never lose. I am taking control of your life.”
Chloe panics and goes to her cell phone she pauses on Sabrina’s contract but then choose Marinette because in the past Marinette was the one who she could reliable bully to feel in control. She tried to bully Marinette by saying Adrain will never be hers.
Marinette does this: “ Chloe, it is you who is ridiculous utterly ridiculous. I know Adrain loves me. Nothing you can say will ever change that. Face it you no long have control over me. Good bye Chloe.”
Right as the call ends Chloe ends up in the fetal position and you can see her crying. Because she knows her freedom is going to be lost. That means Chloe had a feeling that she wasn’t like the rest. It would also explain her mother’s rejection of her. And I believe her sunglasses are the amok holder
There is no evidence. It's weak even for clues. Also, someone had to use Peacock miraculous and pay for that like Emilie and Colt. Noone is known for that. Not to say that means senti creators know secret identity of Hawk Moth like Tsurugi do.
@@levsonc remember they are rich so that means they could have someone else do it for them
@@eddog6666 They didn't knew about consequences. It took years to realize.
Is season 5 going to be on Netflix soon?
Under ten minutes gang
How did i never realized this!?
Love your videos smmmm!!!❤❤
Yay! Thank you! ☺️
I love your videos Maya 😻😻😻😽😽😽
And in the S5 finale he said that the day adrien was born like how can a sentimonster grow up? I dont believe this theory a sentmonster always listens to its creator and adrien has disobeyed gabriel mant times in star train he didnt tell gabriel he was going to the trip
Thomas Astruc has already confirmed that sentimonsters can grow just like regular humans.
@TheMayaBShow i said this to get a reply from ya! Ofc i believe the theory who doesnt😉 i say random things like this to get the creators' attention
In london special lila wears butterfly miraculous upside-down. But whats the reason
I can't deny the evidence but I really hope there's another explanation for all this. Adrien being a sentimonster would feel a bit disappointing and make his life that much more miserable. Lost both of his parents, his trauma, lack of emotional support AND being a sentimonster? I don't want to even imagine Adrien's reaction to all of this. And what about Marinette? Does this mean that she's in love with a sentient being?
Please note: This is just my opinion, you are free to have your own take on all of this.
him being a sentimonster would mean hes not even human. Does this mean that when he dies hes going to transform back into a feather?
@@QueenJenniferTheGreat I don't know for sure. I'm assuming, he won't transform back into a feather. Because the only way to erase a sentimonster's existence is with the peacock miraculous.
These are just my thoughts on this.
Marinette knows that he’s a sentimonster in representation. So technically yes. But adrien is sort of a human sentimonster, so they can still fall in love.
i fine that hard to bleave ( Dam my spelling) that Adrien is a Sentimonster,it okay theory, i give you that.
Being early feels like a crime
I can't belive it omg 😭 this whole time I thought that it was just a theory but it's notttt
I'm so early!
I know some of you guys don’t like it. But all the signs point to him being a senti. If you say he isn’t, you’re lying to yourself and you know it too
If Adrien is a sentimoster then why does mayura doesn't feel it when she is fighting against ladybug and catnoir?
The miraculous is it’s own signature, kind of when Gabriel had the alliance minions follow ladybug and chat noirs signatures and when Mary transformed back then they couldn’t detect her , at least that’s how I see it
@@angelsebastian7715 yeah i see, but mayara can sense presence of amok right??
@@prayas7504 yeah, it was revealed in beast , but miraculous holders have a lot of protections to protect the identity of the holder, I’m guessing that is another one , since it’s only Adrien the one sentimonster, not plagg , plus when it was broken she didn’t keep it on much, only on occasions , when she was home she had it in like a drawer, and when monarch had it he never fought chat directly much or chase Adrien when he left to de transform, he probably feels Adrien near all the time because he has his ring , another reason I believe it’s the suits, in ephemeral, Adrien was de transformed when his dad akumatized him, but when he is transformed and hawkmoth tells him to give his miraculous he never does
@@angelsebastian7715 i think u had a valid points, But I have a confusion if adrien is actually sentimontser ur all points are right but , in the episode representation clearly mentioned felix and kagami is sentimonster not adrien , Maybe Adrien died in emily's womb and a amok just alive him and thus so he is human and probably a sentimoster too??
@@prayas7504 that story doesn’t mean anything , felixs dad and adriens mom died at the same time, maybe Adrien was made a fetus that grew in the womb, and Felix was just a copy of him when he was born? But still no Adrien is full sentimonster, he had no dream of his own in wishmaker, Gabriel doesn’t really love him , he sees him as something he can control fully, always refers to him as perfect when talking with ladybug,he doesn’t care if he is happy, plus he never worried if when he went in the past to give the flash drive, Adrian wouldn’t be born then, because he knew he was a sentimonster , there is just no proof of Adrien being human ,if he really loved marinette, he would have fought in ephemeral, but just a repeat from his dad had him in submission
4:15 I knew this would have more relevance
for the people that are in denial because of the weird fans abt this.. adrien is very much a senti monster but hes just as human at the same time given his experience as a being. he was just made different but hes very much still very human as a senti monster. because thats how a senti should be living as it was made.
After seeing this video why do I feel like even chole is a senti monster as her father and adrien father are friends (but she is like her mother and both he parents are alive) it is also confirmed that zoe is her step sister so Andre busva(style queen) is chole stepmother so it means chole real mother use the peacock miraculous when it was broken (so she also died with the illness as others) what do u think about it can be possible because it might be that she is like her stepmother because she(her stepmother) has the object that contain the amak but does not use it
What do you think?????
I don't think human centicreatures look like their *creators*, I think they look like their *mothers*. Notice that Kagami's father is also not around, implying that he, too, died from using the peacock miraculous.
Can you do a Lila and Manon theory❤❤
10:27 LMAO THE CUCUMBER BAHAHA
i still want to know how the peacock miraculous got damaged
Same!
I always thought it was damaged by the lava. Fu had lost them nearby.
@@levsoncDamage After create Adrien ,Felix and Kagami
Wasn’t the painting of Emilie in Gabriel’s office based on a real life person who couldn’t have children
Yup!!!
@@TheMayaBShow That further shows more proof of the sentimonster theory in S1
Thnx 4 d video sis🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
THE FACT THAT ADRIEN IS ALLERGIC TO FEATHER DOES THIS MEAN ANYTHING
COMMENT BELOW I AM CURIOUS
How can Emilie divide the ring but not to release the amok
Amok was propably in Both rings
So marinette now knows that Adrien is a sentimonster after the ep representation right??
Do you think that Felix’s father also used the peacock miraculous because it was broken at the time? Could that be the reason that he died?
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@@Series_Info fr 😩😌👌 sign me up
While I do think Kagami is a senti I am certain the amok isn't in her ring because the ring was akumatized and therefore broken on many occasions and yet never did we see her disappear or any trace of an amok
It literally says is season 5 that Felix is the sente monster from his father’s envy of them having a child and Adrien disobeying him by inviting Marinette
nah its confirmed atp - also this hasn't been put on new videos on the discord yet 😔