Pipe Dream Set
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- Опубликовано: 12 авг 2017
- Just tried Mark Zagger's Pipe Dream set out this past season and can't argue with the results! Felt weird not covering the trap with dirt but for dealing with rain and mud it sure was helpful. To be a good trapper you've got to always be learning, and if you've never tried this set I would recommend giving it a shot, especially if rain plagues you during trapping season. To learn more about trapping visit www.coyotetrappingschool.com.
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Sweet set!
That is a great idea taking note on the bait and lures that you use on each set
Only way to really know what is working for you
IM GOING TO TRY THIS,THIS YEAR.THANKS.GREAT JOB.
Its worth trying, I was impressed. Good luck!
YES IT IS WITH MY LUCK CATCHING YOTES.I LOOKED TODAY,I HAVE ENOUGH FOR 6 POSTS.THANKS BUDDY.GOOD LUCK TO YOU TOO.
Been reading a bunch on T-man about this set definitely going to add it to my set list
I was really skeptical about this set, especially with the pipe, but I caught several coyotes this year using it. I'll definitely be setting more this way!
Been using similar sets for years for fox trapping, only I didn't use a pipe. Just lure on a clump of grass or hay. But I like to use fine grass clipping, or I cut the grass up in about on inch or smaller pieces over the trap. This really creates a nice flat spot for them to step on, and I'm using a smaller trap, typically. The cut up grass doesn't bunch up and get caught between the jaws. They will keep working in most weather better than dirt or even peat moss.
The little bit that I've set them I've found that getting hay that gets left in the field after it is cut and dried seems to be the best, if I get clippings from my yard they always shrivel and crinkle and don't create the nice flat spot like you're talking about
Seems like a great set for the rain. I'm a new trapper and have had problems with very heavy rain causing my traps to be caked and not fire.
Yep, especially if you are in the east, rain is a constant issue. You can use peat moss too when bedding traps to help keep your traps working through the rain
The one thing you don't do that Mark does and I do also is use heavy screen wire to help hold up the material when it gets wet. I have been useing this same beddin method for several year but without the pipe. I just use the tbones, coyote paw, and cow hoofs. Cow hoofs and yote paws are my favorite, very deadly. Richard from Kansas
Hey Richard, what do you do with the hoofs/paws? Put them down a dirthole? I'm still experimenting with the set but I'm liking it alot. We'll see how long I can get away with not using screen wire, I'm planning to have some grass clippings to use this year and that may make the screen more of a requirement than just using what is available at the set.
What size pvc pipe are you using
Can you use 3/4 inch pvc with that set?
You can, but I don't think the pvc will hold up to repeated use as well
Since there is no backing, what stops the yote from approaching the set from the back and satisfying his curiosity by sniffing the pipe from above? It seems to me that the yote could approach the set and "work" it from any direction. I'm kind of iffy about this one.
How far back is the trap?
How many more did you catch
So you flipped the blood out to the edge, but then wiped it off the trap with the dirt and left it. What was the point?
Nice👍🤘👊
What’s the point in not covering your trap up? I just use peat moss to keep dirt from getting under the pan
So that when it rains your dirt doesn't wash out and you need to recover or your trap is sitting in a bed of water. Its all about keeping your set working in wet weather
Hey I was wondering if you note latch your traps because people told me I should but I don't see why I should?
I prefer my traps nite latched. I run pretty exclusively MB 550s and they come nite latched. To me its just easier, you want your trap set where the pan is just before firing but doesn't fire. For my first few years trapping I didn't have night latched traps and would eye ball it as I was setting the trap but some fire on you and you have to reset them, it saves me a little time to be able to hear that click and know its good to go. Its not a necessity by any means but it is helpful
NO you do not have to night latch your traps and unless your gonna run a true 3 pounds of pan tension I don't recommend it. Maybe for rat and mink
@@coyotetrappingschool1575 are you still using this type of set, curious if it continued to work or if you quit it?
That's a cool set
Its unique, and the way that you bed the trap without using dirt really makes it rain proof. I've started setting all my traps like this. Had an inch of rain last night and all my sets were operational this morning, had a gray fox in one of them. Its worth a try
Thanks for sharing IAM going try we get lot rain here in va
Good luck, once you get the hang of it I think you'll like it
I really enjoyed this video, I'm from Louisiana , which get a lot of rain also. Did you have a lot more catches after this video? Thanks Tanner Giles Louisiana
I didn't get another catch at this set. Did catch a black coyote about 1/4 mile from here on a pipe dream set tho
Thank you very much for your reply. I will be on the trap line tomorrow and will most definitely try this set. I'm kinda like you buddy , if I saw someone not covering there traps I would of thought they where crazy but it makes good sense now after looking at it all. I really enjoyed all of your videos and please keep them coming. Other trappers don't realize how difficult it is trapping in place like Gorgia and Louisiana. Rain and hard ground is not easy to work in. Keep them videos coming. Thanks a lot and God-bless, Tanner G
Will do, good luck!
Coyote Trapping School, you are your own worst enemy, you said yourself that Mark moves his remakes to the edge of the circle. So why wouldn’t you too? If you want to be a pro then you have to start acting like one. I see you making all these videos and clips, and you do a great job, plus kudos to you for sticking with your podcast. But you’re putting out so much misinformation and lacking of the important details. It would be highly beneficial for you to maybe study the details from Craig and Mark before you put their stuff all over the internet. Go make 100 of their sets and tend them, then maybe you’ll be able to see and explain the details that you’ve been missing. Keep working at it you’re gonna get there eventually :)
What kind of pipe did you use and how much in the ground and out of the ground?
1" Schedule 40 electrical pvc, the gray pipe. It seems to hold up better to hammering into the dirt than white pvc. I cut them 16" long and hammer them halfway into the ground or so. You can put them with only a few inches sticking out of the ground, with softer ground I probably would. My ground is pretty hard. I don't want a passing coyote to be able to grab it and run off easily.
Coyote Trapping School what state are you in?
Georgia, you?
Coyote Trapping School South Alabama it looked like the same terrain I have.
So the grass and pine straw doesn't clog up the jaws and let the yote pull out?
Herbert Newman You just use a real thin covering, I felt like I wasn't covering them up enough because if I looked I could see the trap through the grass, but as long as the trap is bedded solid and doesn't move except for the pan, it works
Well this would be another use for dry grass clippings from mowing the yard just carry a bucket full on road sets. Thanks.
Herbert Newman I think you'll be surprised. I was
I was surprised by the amount of covering you gave it as well, but if it works that is all that matters! If you read Zagger's descriptions of his set in Trapper's Post, he says it is very important to use a very light coat of clippings over the trap. He goes so far as to say that you SHOULD be able to see a little of the trap through the clippings if you look hard enough. The key, as you said, is to bed it solid and blend it in pretty well and it will give great results. I used very light grass clippings over a wire screen pan cover and it looked very natural and was the most effective of my sets so far. I have incorporated this bedding technique to my other sets now, because it is really hard to find dry soil to sift where I trap. No more clogged traps and no misses yet.
I've been doing this on my other sets too, and intend this year to have some grass clippings to make life easier instead of using what is at the set. I'm really liking the bedding technique
Just shoot the coyote behind the front leg...little to no blood and ignore if there is any. Coyotes run into blood all the time.
U scrape it away with your trowel and got blood on it. U then laid your pliers on ur trowel and contaminated them. U then put those pliers in ur bag contaminating everything in ur bag. Even ur hammer.
If u shot the coyote in the head it created a mist which is now all over ur hands and knee pads.
The only way to get close to eliminating blood at the set is to remove the 'yote out of the set for dispatch...facing downwind. If u still head shoot it u still might get misted.
Just saying don't get too wound up on the blood. I probably watch too much CSI...lol!!!!
i dispatch my yotes with a trappers hammer to the head.....when i get done they skull is gone and blood everywhere......i don't clean up nothing.......and i keep on catching more yotes.....
I think your kids are tearing up your truck lol
I can assure you every knob was turned and every switch flipped by the time I got back in!
God forbid it rains on your set then you'd have to DRIVE UP TO IT to reset it??
I want to keep it working regardless of weather
Why are you talking to a bunch of strangers about this instead of teaching your kid this? He sounds interested.
He's 4 and he loves running the trapline and helps all along the way
His kid is literally with him
You won't catch an Adirondack Coyote that way!!
Jack Riley 14 Adirondack coyotes caught this way season 2019. Works very well even in Essex and Hamilton County mountains.
@@jackofalltrapping6181 Like the human population, the coyotes are getting dumber by the decade. 30 years ago they wouldn't go near anything unnatural. Actually got more calling them at night with crippled rabbit call and red light. 7 in one night (-: Good luck with the trapping.