I have a NEW DRIVER..you may be surprised | Build My Bag | Drivers | SIM2 vs G425 LST vs EPIC MAX LS
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- Опубликовано: 29 авг 2024
- A build my bag video which faces of the TaylorMade SIM2 against the PING G425 LST against the Callaway EPIC MAX LS for a place in my bag.
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The Ping gives you what you want without sacrificing accuracy! The few extra yards won’t justify the miss that the SIM2 would bring every now and then. Both are really nice clubs though!
I’m shocked you went with the PING but it’s nice to see you approach your driver selection without bias. Oh yes and 100% easily the best quote everrrr... “Distance is a seductive mistress”. That’s brilliant!
I too tested all three. I ended up putting the Callaway in my bag for this year. It was fantastic and the metrics were so good. My dispersion was insane with this club.
I would put the Ping LST in my bag. Not only would I be getting on the fairway, but it would still be going a good distance.
that’s why the g400 is still in my bag
There isn't much difference between G410 lst and G425 lst
@@JT________________ 2 yards
"Distance is a seductive mistress." Quote of the year from Peter Finch
Can't go wrong with Ping's forgiveness and always being so sturdy.
pete: "this ones a little more accurate, but this one goes a little further. UGH I just cant decide"
me: "did it get past the front tee box? ok, I'll take it."
Shut your mouth.
I tested the ping at the end of last year here in New Zealand and loved it!!! Also tested the to cobra speed zone driver also hit amazing shots with it!!! The ping I will alway love the look of its catches my eye any time I see it!! But there was a massive price difference here and I chose the cobra
When I tested TM vs SIM a year ago, it was clear to me the extra .5" was what was creating the speed in the TM and the shorter shaft gave me the accuracy in the Ping (410 LST). Would love to see the TM with a 45" shaft
You need to get properly fit for all of them and test that way. Testing the sim 2 with your custom shaft vs the other 2 with off the rack shafts of course leads to a scenario where you can go harder at the sim. My takeaway would be if the Ping with a stock shaft is that competitive would could it do with a fit?
The shaft he's using in the SIM2 is also a stock/off the rack shaft from the previous year for the SIM driver so he's testing stock shafts with all three drivers. He should get two more versions of the Diamana shaft and tip them with a Ping and Callaway adapter to do this testing. That way with the shaft being the same, he can truly test which driver head is best for his bag since he really likes the Diamana shaft.
@@gary-gt-tsang I remember correctly he was fitted to the shop though, even though it is a sock shop. Could be misremembering, that is very possible. Fitted for each of them, the identical shaft In all three would not necessarily produce great results because the Ping has a much heavier head and needs a counter balanced shaft.
@@gary-gt-tsang Definitely should have been testing like for like. Half inch longer and lighter shaft will definitely give more clubhead speed. There's no way I'm buying that a dialed in SIM is 20 yards longer than and equally dialed in Callaway. No tour players would be playing Callaway drivers if that were the case. You can't give up 20 yards on tour due solely to equipment.
Voice to text is awful, should say *if I remember correctly he was fitted to that shaft.
@@clayfleming6286 I can't remember either and very good point regarding the heavier head of the Ping driver head. But I think Pete going with a 70 gram shaft for the Callaway was not a fair assessment since it gave him the lowest swing speed and he didn't want to swing it faster in fear of the spin being too high.
Excellent video as always Pete. Its a happy day when I get a Peter Finch notification. I think you made the right choose. I personally love the new Ping. It's going to be what I look at the hardest when I go to get a new driver this spring.
Great decision based on your variables. I wish the Callaway had a shaft you could go at more, fitted for spin control for better comp.
I picked the ping before you started. The look of the ping is amazing and my uneducated guess was that would be the best for consistency and a competitor for distance. Nearly won a g425 yesterday.... one number out and yes I did cry myself to sleep last night. Great video pete.
I'd say Ping all day! Will help you in future comps and most importantly games against Rick 😂
I couldn’t hit a driver very well at all until I got the Callaway epic I love it I think it’s an awesome driver
I think you should have considered Titleist as well. I play the TSi2 and I'm loving it.
Would be too much spin for him.. the TSi3 on the other hand would have been a competitor!
Absolutely made the right decision. For multiple reasons. I think as far as you hit it anyways.. accuracy is your best bet and I think I speak for everyone when I say we want to see something different in your bag this year. Especially with it being a PING!!
Ha! The refined bat mobile made me laugh! Ping killed the G425
'Killed the 425' or 'killed it with the 425'?
Try getting your hands on a ventus black shaft or a hazurdus smoke shaft and pit it in the ping and that should bring your spin down and allow you to keep the forgiveness.
Who doesn't love a Peter Finch video on a Friday !?
The mind is the biggest boost or hurdle in the bag. I think you love the distance, I know I do. Still, confidence while standing over a shot is epic, a cornerstone to great scores.
We all saw you playing with the PING in Dubai
You made the correct choice, Peter. Hitting fairways is important for scoring, given that the Ping is only slightly shorted in distance than the Sim. Getting fit for the Sim may help with your accuracy, but for now I think you'll stay out of trouble (bunkers, rough, and trees) with the Ping and also score better.
A virtual club fit video with the boys at TXG would be a good watch!
Was thinking exactly the same thing. Putting three divers head to head with different shaft weights was a bit unfair.
@@dannykosifou175 Yeah it was part that but also that they’re so good at drilling down into the fit that why wouldn’t you if you could? 🤷🏻♂️ It’d also be an interesting, informative and entertaining watch for us viewers and subscribers.
Surprising?? The only surprise I had while watching was that you'd compare three drivers with different shaft weights. And shock, horror, the one with the lightest shaft can be swung faster. What a revelation. 😀
Surprised to not see Titleist as a part of this comp. seems like most of the hype is around them...
...Or the Dechambeaux special RAD Cobra 🐍
Must be great being a pro and getting all the new equipment thrown at you to try and keep.
Just ordered the Ping lst and can’t wait to try it out on the course.
Just got fitted for the Ping G425 full set. Absolutely loved hitting them. Can't wait to get them in and the weather to warm up. Had to get the irons 2" longer! Good choice
If it’s not the Ping - I’m more than happy to take it off your hands.
Oof
Sorry Iain
@@peterfinchgolf If it's not the sim max I'm more than happy to take it off your hands ;) (even though i prefer the Ping)
Pete, I'm the guy who takes accuracy over distance. Especially when it's within 10 or 20 yards. But I also see somebody who hits as far as you that the fitting might improve accuracy. Thanks for the testing though. Good stuff
Just hit all three for an hour, Ping was so straight and consistent, really surprised me and I went with it. It was the MAX not the LST.
The ping has some witchcraft involved. I literally started swinging as hard as possible and it still went straight. It’s amazing
One thing I can see in your choice selection is your BELIEF and when you FEEL comfortable i.e the shorter length shaft suited you as you felt comfortable and confident. The thought and feeling process transmits to the body - you are a dynamic energy machine and the muscles get programmed by your thoughts - your brain is the government of the body - cultivate a good government and you will achieve the best of your technical ability but more importantly you will have FUN - hesitation and indecision produce 2 conflicting energy patterns = a bad outcome/shot. Go with how you feel and what gives you confidence, if it is 1" shorter shaft then go with that as it overrides the tech data you can play with both but your confidence is the most important element.
"Only 166 ball speed"
You just made Rick cry
No kidding. I was watching one of Ol’ Ricardo’s vids last night, testing the formerly Nike rzn ball, carrying 260... the Finch is blasting the sim 320.
Time for a classic Finch/Shiels battle royale at Merion or Aronomink.
Son of a gun, I'm baffled. U should have gone for the SIM 2. Oh well, great video Pete. U sir will forever be the greatest driver of the ball in the history of RUclips golf. Keep up the good work. God bless you sir
Building bag every year. I'm still using a razr fit 😬
Still have my rzr fit tour driver
I think you have made the right decision pete accuracy for me is more important than distance and for about 5 yards of carry you would rather be in the fairway.
Peter Finch Golf, it would have been interesting to see you use the same shaft with all three heads to see how they react to the same setup for length, weight and flex. Would the Ping gain some distance with the lighter and slightly longer shaft? For most courses I would assume accuracy is more critical than length.
You legit have one of the sickest jobs ever. I get this is sometimes real work and it isn't easy. But the "every year, I test the best products to see what can go in my bag for free" is that my dream I didn't know I had???
Not going to lie Drew I’m pretty damn lucky
TSI3 would be my choice, would like to see the comparison.
Why would it be your choice?
@@maxphilpott9677 because i play Titleist and would love to see a comparison, possibly TSI4 for Pete as it would sit better in his spin model.
@@davidfowkes6534 do you only play one particular brand?
@@maxphilpott9677 I do, I'm not one for buying all the latest though, my irons are ten years old my wedges are SM6 and I've got a Ts3 driver.
@@davidfowkes6534 lol I’ve got Taylormade wedges mizuno irons odyssey putter and a cobra 5 wood and a cobra driver, sm6 are fine and if titleist works for you then fair enough
You pick the right choice Pete, giving up a little distance but playing from the short stuff, and your excellent iron play there's only one winner, great video as usual, keep it going
*Sim 2 wins all the test*
Pete: Let me go with the ping lol
confidence is a defining factor when choosing a driver, if with the current shaft he feels like he won't hit it consistently with confidence everytime then the G425 was the right choice
Bc sim2 has a longer shaft that is why it goes further.
@@lukenorton9762 no I get it. Just was messing around lol
Hi Pete
I think your rationale is spot on. I dispare at the quest for just distance. For me the game is designed to be fairway to greens, for more control, especially at your level and above. Good work sir😍😍
Are you going to get “fully fit” for the Ping driver as well? Might get that extra bit of distance you’re after.
Ping is going in my bag this year. It was hands down the most consistent and best performing driver I tested this year
the MOST EPIC battle of 2021 so far...
Peter it is a very wise decision. You're long enough with both for it to come down to accuracy.
When everywhere is open I'm going to put them up against my ping g410 see which is better
I already ordered my epic max ls! Excited to put it in the bag
Great vid Pete! Are you not thinking of going back to the original SIM or are you looking for a new one?
I think the sim could go back in the bag that’s why I said this.
I just ordered my ping yesterday. G25 LST 9 degree Aldila Rogue 70 shaft. Can’t wait!!!
Sometimes I wish Pete would stop trying to be really funny and stop the cheesy remarks 😂. Great video nonetheless
That would make Pete not be Pete tho
Unclench your kiester mate
The more I see the ping driver, the more I want one. It might have to be the max though, until I get a little better. Only been playing 7 months. This channel has really helped me understand the clubs I need. The theory behind hitting the shots and is developing my game. Thanks for the content. Keep it coming. 💪
I love the sim but I think it’s gonna be the ping
I picked up the Ping G425 Driver and I am happy I did. Can't go wrong!
Fairways and greens win matches. PING every time for me.
Tricky choice. On one hand you’ve been building swing speed to gain distance. You bomb it on the course and hang with the tour pros. On the other hand you struggle to find the fairway which affects your score. If you’ll be competing this year, you’re going to want accuracy. Would love to see you hit the Tour Edge driver.
From what I've seen, the sim 2 spins too low to go straight consistently for most people
I would go as far as to say m series and sim series drivers are for very low handicaps. i have seen this problem with all TMs over the last 5 years
@@geoman9324 I'm a club fitter and I would agree for the M1, M3, M5 etc but the more forgiving models Sim Max etc were as easy as any other driver to hit. They do have a different feel though, very hard compared to most.
@@davidaylesbury4624 Pssibly shaft issue but i found the m4 with an evenflow riptide shaft has a slice bias with a ballooning effect for me. Id say i have a pretty average swing but with the saame swing im getting the cobra f9 hzdous black smoke much more straighter and longer piercing ball flight . It feels far better off the face for me too. According to the fittings i should be using the riptide as opposed to the hzdous smoke.
@@geoman9324 Don‘t always go by what it says on the tin, I found that the stock shaft options Tm had previous to the sim were a little lacking. The ventus range is very good!!
@@geoman9324 have Never been a fan of the riptide shaft, always seemed to have a lot of inconsistencies.
LOVE seeing the Vice ball on the tee! God bless that company!!
Paid by Vice promotion button missed again 🙈
That Callaway driver has to be the ugliest club I’ve seen in a long time but that doesn’t really matter when you can smash it!
Since the XR the visual appearance of the Callaway drivers has not been as good, although the BB B21 looks good and the testing I've done with was very good!
Beauty is certainly in the eye of the beholder. I had the original Epic and loved the color. Went with the Epic LS and love the color and the slight bit of carbon at the top. Never liked the Black/white combo for TM or the matte for Ping I can't get behind.
You do what feels right and I think the confidence in the Ping driver is pretty clear.
Personally tried both sim and g425 with the same shafts and agree with Peter. G425 lst is more accurate and for me giving up such a small amount of distance for more consistency was definitely worth it
Good choice with the Ping because you’re guaranteed that the errant shot is always on the one hole that penalises you the most for an errant shot - great video too!!!
Mr Finch you need the driver that you feel most confident with so can qualify for the Open this years the one can feel it in my bones & we will all be out in force to support you 🏌️♂️👍😁
Its an amazing choice, I have the G425 driver and 5 wood and it both performs like a beast! You wont ever feel uncomfortable over the ball on difficult holes and narrow fairways. Sound is amazing too. You have made an excellent choice, Peter. Enjoy the G425 Driver!
Correct choice IMO. I'll take confidence in hitting the fairway over a few yards in distance any day.
Yes. Good decision. However, studies show that the performance of the G425 woods go up substantially when you have a set of i500’s in the bag too. Don’t take any chances Peter, put a Sigma putter in your bag just to be sure.
Forgiving and straight Ping G425 all day for me. I have ordered the max version and can’t wait get it and hit the course one day 🏌️
Just ordered my 425 LST Driver and 3 wood, switching out of last years SIM for same reason, fairway hits and stability.......great review here!!
Totally agree with your TM comment at the end. It's a long driver with that one horrible shot. You can be in the middle of a great round and then that one tee shot with it pops up and screws your round up. LOL
Played a Ping G LST for 2 years ~ it just works - not the longest but the most consistent. So agree with your choice the G425 lst is the way to go.
Well considering I just got the PING G425 SFT yesterday but I do agree with your statement of "the ping gives me more confidence". During fitting for the PING they gave me it and the SIM2 MAX D type. While the SIM did go further and sometimes be more accurate I just felt like the ping gave me degree of confidence that the SIM didn't give. So hopefully more fairways this upcoming season.
I bought my first ever Titlist club last year the tsi3. I hit all the drivers and nothing gave me more consistent results than tsi3. I wanted to bag the epic or ping but all drivers were within 6 / 7 yds of each other but i felt like i couldn't hit bad shots with the tsi3. I paired it with the tensei blue 55 shaft and this setup has been a game changer for me it's arrow straight and very consistent
Finally someone on RUclips who picks a club based on how straight they hit it. None of that yeah I quite like the look of this one yeah that’s it I’ll go with this one
I pre-ordered my Ping G425. Can’t wait to put it in my bag! If I hit it anywhere as close on the course as I did in the simulator I’m hoping to drop my handicap by at least a few points.
very interesting video in light of the PGAs "Distance Report" just released. Although it is amazing to see averages of +300 and beyond from the tee, I would personally love to see better accuracy and more consistency in my game over distance. Choosing the Ping in my opinion is a good choice as it'll lend you more confidence when you start competing again looking to get on the tour.
You made the right choice.
I definitely would have put the Ping G425 LST in the bag. Performance is key.
I love your channel man! I hit all 3 of these, and bought 2... The Max LS and the Sim 2. I'm going to go 3 range sessions with each, and 3 rounds, and sell whichever one doesn't win out.
Great video, and it's hard to not love a fairway finder! Absolutely gorgeous too!
Right choice Pete! Accuracy beats distance any day of the week!
My Mavrik Max is staying in my bag. Nice video Pete.
Great choice Pete. I've been gaming the 425 for the past couple of months (Australia), and have found it to be an amazingly consistent performer. Probably 5 yards less carry than my SIM, but a lot more fairways.
Max or lst?
Just got driver fitted myself. I went in thinking Titleist (to match my new irons) but ended up trying the Callaway epic speed and the Ping G425 LST. To be fair I had not yet watched this video. I didn't have the greatest fitting experience but ended up hitting the G425 LST best. It's performing even better on course. I'm really enjoying it. Got a PXG driver fitting in a few days and looking to see if I can improve on the Ping. If so, hello PXG. Thanks for the review! Loved the head-to-head (to head).
I ordered a Ping G425 driver and it's going to take 2-8 weeks to arrive. I am so anxious. Also ordered a G425 5-wood for good measure.
Think you've made the right choice putting the Ping in Pete, higher percentage of fairways hit equals better rounds. Distance wise, taking 10-15 yards, not much when u consider playing more shots from rough if u chose the Sim 2. Ping G425 all day for me :D
Spot on choice I think the sim 2 is not massively longer so hitting the fairway has to be a priority
Ping G425 LST coming my way soon. Glad you found more fairways with it. I know I need more of those. Tired of hitting through trees even though they are 90% air.
😉🏌️♂️⛳️🍻. Hooray, I was gutted last year when you didn’t pick Ping last year ... great choice Pete , now 425 fairway .
Pete really put a lot more effort into the Sim swing, can only think he liked it more, so much of driver confidence comes from just liking the look, feel and how it sits at address, think the Sim will be back LOL.
Ball control and shaping in my opinion is better than distance... so I think you made a proper choice for the time being..
The ping is fantastic choice nothing better. I still have a 410 and just feel so comfortable behind the ball
The ping driver is solid and I’m pretty straight with it. It might not be as long as the Sim2, or the Edge, but I’m willing to give up that 5 yards to be in the middle of the faraway 95% of the time.
While I'm personally glad to see that the Ping go in the bag over the Taylormade, I do think the main asterisk attached to this video and any potential showdowns in the near future(between clubs for a spot in your bag, that is) is that these are all not going to be perfectly fit for you. They may be really close, but, at the moment, the little bit of difference between the clubs (such as the length) may produce the slightest of advantages for one club or another. That being said, you've got to work with what you've got (as the saying goes) and you seemed to be hitting all three pretty good. Some would argue that's all that needs to be said: you hit all three good and the Ping ended up in the bag in the end.
I do really enjoy these Build My Bag videos Mr. Finch. A good mix of entertaining and insightful. Keep it up and God bless!
love it. struck it a touch left as it ends up in another county. but i would blame the ball and the weather conditions since it’s never “our” fault. smart choice on the Ping bc accuracy with your swing speed and distance is way more important than 10 more yards when you hit the f******* ball 330 yards
Great job... Peter...kinda going to the Ping G425 Max.
"Distance is a seductive mistress" - very true....
I would go for the PING based on looks and choose whichever helped one helped me keep on the fairway.
Cheers
This seams like a really sensible decision Peter but all in all I think it's the right 1 and I think I would be doing the same 👍
That regular callaway epic speed is so good
I've only like Ping and TaylorMade drivers over my time. I'm very overdue for an upgrade when I have the money, but I'm still using a Ping G20 as my driver years later. I don't need distance, I need more accuracy. I can't out down my TaylorMade CB Irons. Absolutely on love with them still and I don't mind the different brands thing.